/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>3003772
>nWoD
oWoD was politically charged, nWoD even more so. I haven't seen Calli do any creative writing so we will see how she does with that. Either its going to be an absolute trainwreck or its going to be around the same level as all those other ttrpg podcasts out there.

>>3003772
wdym?
This will be pure kino. I'm honestly pretty hyped about it.
>>3003841
...is this true?
Pls don't ruin this for me.

>>3003772
Oh that is interesting and exciting.
It will be a shitshow like the mahjong but it is nice they are trying.

whoever posted this on /tg/ is a permavirgin

>>3003863
>..is this true?
Yes, yes it is

>>3003863
It's absolutely true, most tabletop games have been going toward politically charged stances to get hip with the kids. That said, it really depends on the Storyteller to design a story, if Calli doesn't write that shit in there then all we may have to deal with is character creation.

>>3004014
oh no
Oh No
OH NO
Each paragraph gets worse!
This got to be revenge for the Crit1kal incident.
Ah fuck.

>>3004014
This reads like a parody...

>>3003863
WoD has always been extremely political, thats part of its main selling point...

>>3004182
I wouldn't say its a main selling point, but I get what you're saying. Ive played it before, its a good system, and oWoD had good lore behind everything.

dont care

>>3004002
>whoever posted on /tg/ is a permavirgin
FTFY

>>3003772
Why does she type like a japanese highschool? It's retarded.

>>3003772
>your boy
fucking die

>>3003863
oWoD was always extremely politic though, what you though the fucking Anarchs were? nWoD just went further beyond, but I bet there will still be /v/ babies crying about politics in this same thread without having ever opened a WoD manual

>>3004014
But this is par for the course, Brujahs were always violent retards who liked to rebel against anything when they get their blood boner
t.Toreador

>>3004349
oWoD was political but politics were less all encompassing than the politics of the American left are today.

>>3004084
>This got to be revenge for the Crit1kal incident.
what incident? you mean her donating big cash to him?

>>3004391
You're both stupid.
t. Tremere

>>3004228
How badly does new mess with the lore?

>>3004405
She could fuck him with a strap on for all I care, just keep that shit out of hololive.

>>3003772
another accidental Kino is my bet

>>3003772
>guaranteed HoloMyth collab every week
>get to see the girls try to work through open-ended problems instead of play a video game with a set solution
>the girls get to play different characters so they get a small break from the kayfabe
>Mori gets to do a bunch of stupid voices
>Hololive still won't allow politics so all the bullshit in the book won't matter
I'm excited to see how the girls handle it.
t.5ebabby

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>>3004014
>>3004026
>>3004084
>>3004182
>>3004349
The think I'm concerned about it less the in game politics but because the game is so politically charged the Risk of YAB shoots up immensely. This combined with the fact that Cover has been very strict about the EN Girls to the point where Gura was afraid to swear on stream means that despite how much I want it most likely it will go to shit.

>>3004455
>just keep that shit out of hololive
but do drop a secret link somewhere so we can watch

>>3004454
It gets rid of it completely.

>>3004479
Gura is still swearing on stream by the way

>>3003863
It is true although it varies by which line you’re in and a good Storyteller can assuage the worst of it. It is like how Shadowrun has built in and sometimes dated ideas regarding nature, corporations and Indians.
The worst one for nWoD was Beast, which literally had the bad guys be gamergators that you torture among other things. Turned out the main author was a serial rapist pedophile.

>>3004479
The final yab is going to be brought by a nat 1

>>3004639
WoD doesn’t work that way, though you can still botch it isn’t decided by one die.

>>3004639
Uh... bro? You know this is a success-based system, right?

>>3003772
Think they are doing this in response to Vshojo?

>>3004550
Does she say cock?

>>3004694
>one die
ONE THREAD

>>3004014
>Brujah
>critical thinkers
Ah, yes, the thinking man's clan.

>>3004639
This is what happens when Critical Roll makes everyone who doesn't know ttrpgs think every system is a D20 system

>>3003772
>Mori too lazy to read the rules and going to do a shitty job GMing.
>Gura too lazy to read the rules and going to do a shitty job playing
>Kiara going to shit it up by trying to rape the other player characters
>Ina doesn't do anything too interesting or too boring
>Ame autistically attempting to power game, becomes clearly irritated by the others' actions

>>3004473
vs
>>3004824

>>3004824
Nah, Ina will accidentally powergame and then will never have a chance to shine

>>3004580
Beast was a themeless shitshow with no internal logic. Calli is showing off Hunter though, which is honestly just Vanilla with more player tools. As long as she keeps the story small/local(?) forgot the term, it’ll seem like CoC except players have access to shit like semi-functioning voodoo, bigger guns, actually helpful chuunibyou, and lifesaving autistic paranoia.

>>3004473
Based, crossing fingers it goes well too.

Nerds

>not owod

why would they do this to me

>>3004880
>it’ll seem like CoC

>>3004455
God that's hot

>>3004880
the only correct thing you have said is that it will have lifesaving autistic paranoia

>>3004824
I think you mean BASED job. Rules in autistic LARPs are for fags

>>3004400
>the American left
Doesnt exist

>>3004014
kek its over im done with holoEN. no way in hell im sitting through that propaganda shit when i managed to avoid it back in Venezuela. fucking god damn it

>>3003772
EN only? Add Anya and reine they arent doing shit

Calli may actually be prepared/awake at the start of a collab, so that's cool.

>>3003772
>>3003863
Clearly this all means they should play the most reasonable and sensible system for their needs.

Dungeons: the Dragoning: 40,000: 7th edition.

>>3005166
KIARA I ESCAPED VENEZUELA LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>3005205
what are you an idiot, they should just play GURPS

>>3003772
Should have done Call Of Cthulu instead of World Of Trannies.

>>3004880
I was wondering if they would use different Splats appropriate to their holomyth types since nWoD in theory places nicer with mixed parties, but that would honestly be too many rules and things to juggle. Not to mention that I don’t think they really have proper splats to cover the different holoen monster types.

>>3005166
>giving a shit anymore
Life is a comdey, and so on

>>3005239

>>3004014
>clan can comprise of people with gender studies degrees to nazis because they're all outspoken, self-righteous retards
>this is somehow controversial when it's been the case since oWoD

>>3005150
Based Comrade Neolibs deserve the rope

>>3005150
Sorry to rain on your Marxism historical reenactment LARPing but SJW neoliberalism is the new real leftism.

>>3005339
For me its less the politics itself but the Yab's it can cause.

>>3004014
BRUJAH LIVES MATTER

>>3003772
Calling it now, Ina will be Malkavian/Tzemise, Ame will be Tremere/Nosferatu, Kiara will be Toreador/Ventrue, and Gura will be Gangrel/Brujah. Ordered by most likely/2nd most likely.

>>3004014
someone from /tg/ say it ain't so

>>3004479
You're an absolute moron who thinks anything political in the book gets disseminated into every tabletop campaign. It is up to the GM to provide the story and paths of their players, full stop. Hunter is possibly the most vanilla one too since you can be some country club old money hunter to a former slasher who's pissed off that there's a new slasher in town stealing their glory.

>>3005446
dude where do you think the people who are giving answers are from

>>3005409
The book isn't going to start screaming bullshit on stream, it's up to Mori and the others to make the story, all the book provides is a setting and rules. If they don't like something, they can just homebrew something else instead.

>>3005239
I will SC this as my final act for EN if the YAB happens, probably will just get ignored but it will be fun.
>>3005320
Don't worry anon, i got used to clown world long ago.

>>3005446
nWoD staff was so stupidly sjw that it looped back around into being racist again and got the entire staff fired.
Seriously.

>>3005480
In all honesty they could just go full Supernatural with it, try to have fun that way.

We'll get to see how good Mori's writing actually is when she doesn't have infinite time on her side.
Stay strong deadbeats...

>>3005546
>a horseshoe underflow
You love to see it.

>>3005446
read the thread retard, I just explained that WoD was always political.

>>3005546
I think the same thing is happening with the new VtM Bloodlines game, its on hold now right?

>>3005546
please elaborate /tg/anon

Hololive table top stream, let's fucking gooooo

I wasn't joking when I said they should just play GURPS, they can literally do ANYTHING they want with it.

>>3005628
/v/ here, yes but we don't really know why. We do know the writers wantes a lot of SJWA stuff in, one interviewed focused on how they wanted the game to always be woke. If im trying to be unbiased the delays seem to come from a huge lack of organization and leadership rather than just politics, but who knows really.

>>3005673
>they can literally do ANYTHING they want with it.
They could also just dream up a random story together for an hour if that's what you want.

>>3005635
IKZZZZ...

>>3005591
It was a few years back, but one of the newest Vampire books has the anti Homo laws in Chechen Russia listed as a plot by evil vampire mafia to kidnap and kill gays so that way player characters could go and kill homophobic Russians to save the gays.
This made gay groups mad that white wolf was using their problems as fictional storylines and so Paradox, the company that bought white wolf, fired the staff and disavowed them as nazis.

>>3003772
Sorry KFP, but I predict that Kiara will ruin this. A game like this requires each person to be a little bit disciplined, as in not interrupting the GM when he describes stuff, or not chiming in when somebody else has a turn or a conversation. But we all know that Kiara will constantly scream over everybody, debate with the GM over every little thing, try to force the adventure into the direction she wants etc. That is just the way she is.
Ame, Gura and Ina tend to be very passive in collabs which further incentivises Kiara to talk in order to not allow there to be dead air. So I imagine this to be mainly Kiara and Calli bickering back&forth.

I usually would not be so harsh to Kiara and even defend her since a chaotic stream could be fun too, but ever since she betrayed Hololive, she can go fuck her right-handed stalker.

>>3005546
I remember a screencap about a group whose thing was just protecting the civvies from the various supernatural groups via purging them and were portrayed as villains.

>>3005717
but thats what they are doing?

>>3005740
Dont use my priestess to shitpost please.

>>3003772
Wait a minute... Is this that one vampire game with the that gay-bear-muslim-anarchist-vampire?

>>3005560
She writes her lyrics pretty fast, so I have faith.

>>3005740
>another falseflag from kfp
you didn't need to put her ina in the filename twice, we get it

>>3003921
Mahjong? Do you mean Uno?

>>3005789
The UNO stream was great

>>3005740
after uno, I'd be inclined to agree for most of that, but I think ame will be arguing about the rules

>>3005728
>and disavowed them as nazis
That part I doubt. The rest is typical.

>>3005805
You enjoyed Kiara shitting her pants?

>>3005781
Same universe, right?

>>3005740
>Kiara trying to DM's gf to get free shit
>Calli ignoring her
please make it so

>>3005789
>>3003921
>Mahjong
Don't remind me...

>>3005740
God we can dream. This shit sounds like aspergers deluxe unless someone adds some spice.

>>3005844
Yes

>>3005166
OYA SALTE DE MI PAIS VENECO MARRONAZO, unless you have a decent oshi

>>3005854
not even american, but this disgusts me on a primal level

>>3003772
This bums me out because I really want it to be good but I just know it won't and that anything that happens in game will feed rrats to hell and back.

Guys...BLACK VAMPIRES ARE NOT REAL

>>3005854
Man TTRPGS are ass nowadays, even ignoring the woke stuff the writing is still awful.

>>3005854
>practicing islam and unabashed queerness
How can you write this and not feel an urge to fire yourself into the sea

>>3005749
Beast: the Primordial, which as mentioned above had its lead developer arrested for child rape.

>>3005166
marico asi empezó

>>3005933
Why not? Wouldn't they actually be better vampires since less sunlight would penetrate their skin?

>>3005740
Gura will ruin it. She doesn't have the attention span for this type of shit.

>>3005150
Based and REDpilled. Crying about dead niggers and creating further division while sucking corporate cock doesn't make one a communist.

>>3005854
So he's Islamic, but also gay, "feminist" and a vampire? that isn't quite a contradiction
Also I don't know much about the lore of WoD but, wouldn't religions be against vampires?

>>3005933
The Followers of Set would like a word, and then your tongue.

>>3003772
>Gura too ADHD
>Kiara constant interruptions
>Ame can only be boring or salty
>Ina having to dumb herself down to their level
>Mori being ill prepared and tired exhausted

This is going to be pretty bad

>>3006046
Yes, every religion who has power has a group of them that fight vampires, apart from a few of them who are vampires.

>>3003772
What would be the bigger yab between them playing Zettai Reido and Black Crusade?

>>3005980
That would not really ruin it. She would just have to be reminded constantly what was happening and sometimes blatantly told what to do by the others. Really not the worst thing. Kiara and Ame will be the ones who make it unwatchable, and Calli will probably be somewhat annoying because she will keep apologizing endlessly for making mistakes, or forgetting something (we all know how unprepared she often is). Hell, she is already trying to lower expectations by constantly reminding everybody that it has been a long time since she last did this.

>>3005978
any sun is too much sun

As long as none of them end up as That Guy I dont think the sessions will be too bad.

>>3006072
Yeah agreed. I do not see this working out at all. But at least it will be relatively short because I do not expect Calli to write a long adventure.

>>3005876
Tranquilo no estoy en tu país, me fui bien lejos de la zona de impacto. Ni de verga me quedo donde me va a alcanzar rápidamente esa mierda.
>>3005971
Te da PTSD no? jajajaja lamentablemente ya lleva rato en rumbo al acantilado la mayor parte de américa, buena suerte bro.

>>3006093
>we all know how unprepared she often is
Yeah but in this case she seems to actually want to make this work with her having talked about this since forever.

>>3005685
>>3005628
The lead writer got fired before he could complete the storyline so yeah of course there's a lack of leadership and organization.

>>3005876
>>3005971
>>3006178
thanks you fucks now I want a burrito for dinner and there aren't any good burrito places in my city.

>>3006213
That just means she's been in on it since forever.
I always knew SJWs would ruin vtubers like they ruined everything else.

>>3006264
You're so cool and smart anon, guess there's nothing left for you to do but kill yourself.

>>3005749
That was Beast, the absolute worst of the worst for the gamelines.
Basically you are someone with the soul of a monster (just soul, not body so your fire or claws or wings are invisible: full otherkin mode) that tortures and torments people to feed off their fear. This is portrayed as a good thing.
Sometimes when you torment someone they snap and awaken as a Hero, which empowers them to fight back. They are specifically explained to all be bad though 100% and the book mentions gamergators as example “Heroes”. Also, the tools the game gives the heroes aren’t mechanically as useful as the ones Beasts get so you basically are abusing someone until they try to fight back and then just abusing them more while the victim is vilified.

People thought this was questionable so it was later restructured to explain the torture was for the victims own good so the hero is bad to fight it, as it is supposed to teach the victim “lessons” like kidnapping someone and torturing them to teach them to beware of strangers or shooting kids so that parents value them more. Again this is described as being a good thing without meaning to be an unreliable narrator, it is supposed to objectively be good. This theme of hurting people and vilifying them if they fight back while blaming it on the victim is why Beast was called things like Wifebeater: the Justifying.

As mentioned before, it later turned out the writer was a literal serial rapist pedophile too. What a surprise right?

>>3006046
I haven't read any of this shit for a long time but technically a lot of vampires are religious in the sense that they believe in the Book of Nod, Caine and Gehenna. Besides that, every mainstream religion would see vampires as abominations and pure, true believers would be kriptonite to them.
https://whitewolf.fandom.com/wiki/True_Faith

>>3005815
Sorry, I was mixing it up a bit. The disavowing nazis came earlier.

>>3006072
i hope grudge poster sees this thread

>>3004488
It’s not that hard to find. I’m not going to post it but it’s in Charlie’s video about Pokémon cards making him nearly.

Just know that Charlie is Calli’s oshi

>>3006311
Grudgeposting outside of /hlgg/ is cheating, 99% of threads in /vt/ (including this one) are toxic waste

>>3006264
>mori is a sjw timeloop
Come on, don't start this now.

Here's a primer:
>oWoD - cool aesthetics, settings, can be overly edgy, fluff heavy, but marred by absolutely shitty tabletop rules and mechanics to the point that some books have to be homebrewed from start to finish (Demon). Suffers a lot from typical TTRPG problems in the 90s like clunky gameplay and strange, inconsistent rules. Writing is generally good with some like Vampire and Werewolf being awesome.
>nWoD, officially called Chronicles of Darkness - different publishing company expands on the original and fleshes out several ideas or completely rewrites them. Some are vast improvements (Demon, Hunter, Geist if you see it as a successor to Wraith), some are identical in quality to the original but different (Mage, Changeling, Werewolf) and some are controversial (Vampire). However, some editions are flat out bad, and a new entry like Beast is notoriously shitty to the point that practically none of the other books mention it as a splat. Promethean is incredible to make up for the existence of Beast though.
>nWoD, Onyx Path version - flew too close to the sun and became a laughing stock by all political wings for a reason. Didn't learn a single thing from their mishandling of oWoD the first time around. Defunct, now Onyx Path, publisher of CoD, has publishing rights to oWoD, simply called WoD.
IMO, editions are more of a good rainmeter to the quality of the book since sometimes the lead writer gets bumped off or replaced if they're shitty.

>>3006284
Wouldn't that shit make him a Fomori, literal enemies of existence?

>>3006284
FWIW, this was part of what led of White Wolf being killed and absorbed by its owners (after which they sort of reverted to do just rehashing Vampire again).
The other part, as it was said earlier, was the gay Chechen shitshow.

>>3006338
fair enough

Why is every thread in this shitheap of a board always garbage? I came here expecting insight into the game and got politics, doomposting, and dead rrats, as usual.

>>3006337
reading reps anon
i highly doubt he was getting pegged by calli on a public twitch stream

>>3006387
Then look up the game yourself you helpless faggot

>>3006407
kys dramafag, you're a cancer on 4chan

>>3006353
nWoD changeling is vastly superior to the original. I'm surprised to hear good things about Promethean. Honestly though, WoD new or old, just reeks of 90s edge in a way that has not aged well at all. In a world of smartphones, teslas, and apple aesthetic everywhere it's just too goofy to play any of these.

>>3006360
Splats generally operate assuming they are the only ones they exist until they don't, usually by claiming that each supernatural creature gets their one city to do their shenanigans at.
I.E.: Demons all happen to run agencies in Seattle because God is also fucking with reality there.

fyi, nDemon is fucking amazing. I'd give all the akasupas in existence if Mori could run that and have it work.

>>3006407
But i can heard that you can ignore a lot of yabai stuff.

>>3003772
If only she played Postal 2...

>>3006453
The magic of tabletop is that you can ignore ALL the yabai stuff by the magic of homebrewing.
Want to play based and redpilled Vampire where all the bad guys are Sabbat spics and you're all Aryan Qfollowers? You can.
Want to play jungle Werewolf deep in the heart of Brazil? Go ahead.
Want to play Mages in FUCKING Space? My nigga, that's fucking trivial.

>>3006426
4channel

>>3006506
So why are people freaking out?

>>3006540
because /pol/

How many bad rolls in a row will it take for Gura to throw another tantrum and blame Calli for singling her out?

>>3003772
Mori needs to get this layout setup
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMGeFC77cjA&t=10600s

This is the best layout for a livestreamed TTRP for vtubers that exists.

>>3006540
>DA JOOOOOOOOOOOZ
>DA LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIBSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
>DA NIIIGGGGGGGGGGGGGZZZZZZZZZ
pick one

>>3006540
Because we know Mori will unsubtly shove her political agendas to the game with Kiara loudly bringing attention to it as Ina Ame and Gura watch their careers die in a fire.
The worst part is Mori will get away with this.

>>3006440
I'm a bit biased since the oWoD version of Changeling was my first tabletop campaign, but I agree that the new one is improved. A lot of oWoD hasn't aged well, unfortunately. Also, I think the biggest thing holding Promethean back is that you need actual skilled roleplayers to pull it off, since new players would be overwhelmed.

>>3006621
SHE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT

>>3006072
But Mori is the one organizing all of this. She is actually godlike when she has to be responsible for something.

Just imagine Ame attempting to roleplay while constantly giggling and hic'ing. Might be the most enjoyable part of what is sure to be a shitshow.

>>3006506
So it's just AI Dungeon multiplayer?
I don't really understand the concept of ttrpgs.

>>3006621
>Because we know Mori will unsubtly shove her political agendas

>>3006703
It's role-playing in a specific setting with friends to make a fun story and do cool shit.

>>3003772
So will they use their live 2Ds for this or get art made for their characters?

i fucking hate women, i was a fool to think that vtubers were anything but 3dpd.

>>3006653
>Ame has a downside written into her character with her hics being ingame too and could give away their position
That would be neat

>>3006735
He's being sarcastic, anon.

>>3006540
Because schizos actually think management will let >>3006621 happen. I personally trust the girls themselves to steer clear of yab shit anyway.

>>3006569
Gura throwing tantrums amongst her genmates? Never

>>3003772
I suspect you're going to get a lot of "what was that rule for", "is there a rule for that", "what can I do" and the classic "aahhhhh". You're probably going to get a lot of derailing into things not related to the game.
I'm going to give it a go, but unless it's a five hour stream I don't expect it to go anywhere.

>>3006734
But what's the role of the "game" here if you just do what you want?

>>3006621
Based Mori

>>3006621
Why exactly would the other girls careers go down if Mori pushes some message? First of all, it would be a message most people will be ok with even if 4chan hates it. Secondly, even if most people hated it, it would still only reflect back on Mori and not everybody who played with her.

>>3006796
I trust them too, tho I wish (hope) they were using the lore from oWoD, its far superior to nWoD

>>3006569
>another
I do not remember a single tantrum.

>>3006898
how new?

>>3006842
oWo what is Dis

>>3006859
"Roleplay" is the act of acting as someone else
"Game" is the set of rules that you confine yourself to in order to make everything flow smoothly.
What you do with those two parts is left up to the person running the game and the people playing it.

>>3006621
Mori had nigger and faggot all over her roommate's twiter well after debut, don't be a schizo

>>3005480
The scenario is very political to the point were Tremere clan is dominated by a feminist trying to change the patriarchal structure of the clan. That's the problem. She can write something that don't dwell deep into it, but any lore mention can be a yab..

>>3006898
The mass Among Us collab I guess. And never again

>>3006842
I think Mori's idea is that it is not one stream thing and it will be longer than.

>>3006898
He means that time JP targetted Gura in that among us collab

>>3006976
I'm sure Mori's studied the game so she'll know what to avoid in advance.

>>3006976
Why are you forcing this? Why are you deliberately being retarded? They're not playing nuVampire, I scanned the entire hunter book last night and there was nothing explicitly political but there's a drugged out Arab organization and protoNazis as pc choices

>>3003772
I saw a good series of streams on this. Something about the claws of Eagles. Pretty cool.

>>3007056
Look at it this way, either it'll be a fun experience for the 5 of them and we can be along for the ride, or it'll be a nightmarish disaster that breaks all the boundaries that some of us liked having and it'll be the biggest YAB bomb of them all, turning this place into an absolute shitshow.
Win win either way.

>>3006621
Will be interesting to see than how Mori will insert not believing in Cultural Appropriation and the Predatory nature of Social Justice White Knights into her story.

>>3007036
Even if it is, if they just spin around in a tavern for 66 minutes before ending the stream...

>>3007056

Gura: "Alt-right?"
Ame: "That's pretty based"
Mori: "WAIT HOLD ON! LISTEN!"
Ina: "Are we gonna get bonked?" *giggle*
Kiara: *Silent and with her angry face because of Ame's based comment*

>>3007073
>hunter
>not involving vampire
You're the one being retarded, also read what I've said.

>>3007162
Excuse me what?

>>3006621

>>3007176
Jesus, you people are children.
This has to be the most embarassing thing I've read on this board.

>>3007176
do not shitpost about my oshi onegai

>>3007215
Nah, there's much worse. Just join us in the fetish thread and you'll learn real quick what embarrassing cringe really is.

>>3004014
>Brujah gender studies

Did a Nosferatu write this?

>>3007220
your oshi is an english speaking female woman from a western nation

>>3007245
You know which "clan" caused this.

>They won't be good at roleplaying
That is literally what they do, it's their job. This is the essence of DYRBI

>>3007245
It gets way worse, anon...
The book it's a absolute piece of shit.

>>3007288
That's why I said either a really fun time or an absolute shitfest.

>>3003772
Can't wait for Ame to get a chance to, completely in character of course, drop the line "I'll eat that pussy ass nigga like a bacon egg sandwich!"

>>3007215
Did you discover this board an hour ago?

>>3004479
>This combined with the fact that Cover has been very strict about the EN Girls to the point where Gura was afraid to swear on stream
Gura has said over and over again Cover has nothing to do with this. It's entirely susan's faggy YouTube algorithms that make her watch what she says.

>>3007288
They BARELY roleplay.

>>3006441
Not Beast though, which is written so that it is the granddaddy of all splats and hang out with all of them to boost their powers. Except demons, which beasts think are weird.
It doesn’t matter to much since this is getting off topic but god damn what a shitshow.

>>3006703
>>3006734
Think about it like this. Imagine a group of kids on the playground deciding to pretend to be monster hunters. They act in character and mess around playing pretend. Then one of the kids out of nowhere says they grow into a giant and squash all the monsters the other kinds tell the first kid to stop an argument breaks out and one kid says "I shoot you with my shrink ray" and the first kid replies "You can I have a shield" so on and so forth till the whole situation turns sour.

Now imagine if the kids had a set of guidelines in place written down somewhere on what they can and can't do and if they can do while playing as monster hunters, something on how to decide if the action works or fails and what a character can even have/do. That's what a table top RPG is boundaries on make believe so that things stay focused and have some form of stakes. A GM/DM (what Mori is doing) is a person meant to create the situation the other play around in and since they are all sitting down explain how the world responds to the players.

>>3007331
>censoring the hard R
Ame goes all the way man, we know it

>>3007189
Gotta do your music reps. People presume she's an SJW because of a cover song she did, but they haven't even gone down the River.

>>3006870
If it happens and 5ch /pol/ finds out about this they'll be fire no matter how much money they bring in. 5ch's politics board makes /pol/ look like communists and chink spammers look sane and will NEVER forgive.

>>3007481
underage

>>3007495
>of a cover song she did
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkKC9kgXLXE
What the fuck I hate Watame and Okayu recently, and many other Holos before now.
It's not even the message of the song, fucking retards with 0 reading comprehension.

>>3007176
Kek! I can hear it

>>3007471
Is the set of actions restricted like in a text-based adventure? Like "run, jump, eat" etc. If not, how do you deal with situations where the requested action is too complex to be in the book?

>>3007481
>>3007533
I'd agree with you Anon but no, we have video proof of this happening. I don't like it either but that's how it is.

>>3007622
House rules. Typically DM decides on the rule in question, but most of the time it's a lot of back and forth until they come to a reasonable option. Doesn't happen too often.

>>3007176
This but it's all happening at the same time

>>3007622
The GM makes a ruling if necessary, but what actions are too complex to be in a book?

>>3007527
>5ch's politics board makes /pol/ look like communists
How the fuck?

>>3007622
then the DM adlibs or says no you cant do that. If your character has no way to fly and you say "I want to fly away while falling from this building." the DM would say either "You fall to your death" or warn you that trying that will kill you.

I fucking hate /pol/tards so much.

>>3003863
Both oWoD and NuWoD were politically charged, NuWoD goes full retard in places. Hunter is slightly less political. None of that actually matters because it's up to the players and writer to engage with the politics.
Nu Hunter is also one of the books that got better in the conversion to NuWoD
Now to further deal with other fears I've seen people have
>The girls won't understand the rules or similar complaints
The only one I see this being a problem for is is unironically Gura, people have pointed to Kiara or Ame as sources of strife, but Kiara grew up playing TTRPGs, and I think Ame would commit since it's important to Cali (she's a huge Unity fag)
>They'll have trouble playing characters/won't play characters at all
They play characters every time they stream, some more the others.
>Kiara will ruin the collab by doing X thing
Ogey
>They will all give up and never play again
Possible but that's the risk you take in any group.

For my pet fear, it's that there really aren't any "easy" first hunt, maybe a newly born shovelhead is on the loose, and people newer to TTRPGs very rarely like to be actually challenged. Of course they could do a non combat hunt but that could prove frustrating for the audience.
>>3005446
This has always been the case for that clan, not that it really matters they are playing hunter.
>>3005740
What are you talking about betrayed hololive, you seem skitzo.

>>3007558
Wait what did the sheep do to you? I have never seen anyone hate on Watame before now.

>>3007558
What's wrong with this?

>>3007679
>construct a miniature boat out of the remains of my enemy
>execute a series of fortnite dances
>write a 53-page essay on solipsism
>perform rocket surgery
etc.

>>3005166
if anything it's more of tradition vs chaos rather than purely political, but how have you been on 4chan that long and not played vtmb?

>>3004736
Mori's been talking about this since back in november, tard wrangling the 5 of them seems to be a herculean effort.

>>3006387
Outside of the generals 99% of the threads on vt are trash.

>>3007773
Craft check
Performance check
Intelligence check
Mechanics check

>>3007751
Inb4 it's pic related's fault.
It usually is.

>>3006755
I mean, worst case scenario Ina can draw all of them when they have their characters together.

>>3007680
I don't know if you live under a rock or something, but Japanese mainstream politics like strict immigration policies and supporting law enforcement are considered EXTREME FAR RIGHT in the west. Now if these things are mainstream imagine what their nationalists are like, they literally want to reestablish the Japanese empire and murder every other type of Asian.

>>3007751
She has horns

>>3007386
>D
>Y
>R
>B
>I

>>3007854
Based.

>>3007837
What about baby check?

>>3007892
are we fucking playing FATAL?

>>3007176
>Ame: "That's pretty based
Reps

>>3007724
>Both oWoD and NuWoD were politically charged
oWoD was not as political as NuWoD, also it would say that the underworld was a different place and had it's own politics. All scenarios had it's faction that would mix with real politics and religion, but it was neutral towards any of them, in NuWoD it's clear as day that it's filled with political correctness and leftist propaganda.

>>3007854
>supporting law enforcement are considered EXTREME FAR RIGHT in the west
No.
But anyways, /pol/ does have its fair share of unironic nazis plotting for a fourth reich and other ethnic cleansy types.

>>3007919
My oshi not only loves me but is also a neonazi tradwife who is only into vtubing to make money so she can support me and our Aryan children.

>>3004479
>to the point where Gura was afraid to swear on stream
It sure is funny how "She knows EXACTLY what she's doing" gets flung out the window when it's convenient.

>>3007910
God can you imagine, even just a character creation stream would be peak content (and career-ending)

>>3007923
Read my whole post thank you, you didn't even finish the first sentence it seems

>>3007854
Stupid Larp, japs been taking immigrants like a dick in the ass for a while now.

>>3007854
You could not possibly make it any more apparent that you get your knowledge of political information from the internet and don't interact with real people much, but even then you're being wilfully ignorant. Almost half of the US, currently one of the most left wing countries in the world, for a president which supports both of the things you just described as "EXTREME FAR RIGHT!!" because you saw some trannies on Twitter saying so.

>the girls haven't even streamed it yet and already /pol/acks are getting triggered
I almost almost hope one of the girls slips up and says something SJW during the stream just to see how hard /pol/ get's filtered.

>>3007962
I'm a degenerate, and even I think FATAL is a burning garbage heap.

>>3007981
>>3007925
>>reddit

>>3007923
It's extremely obvious from this post that you never read oWoD and your only experience with the setting is VtM:B.

>>3007983
The sad reality is that /pol/tards will never stop shitting the board up.
Something like that will only make them more aggressive.

>>3007622
Yes and No
Some actions (mostly related to combat) have rules in place within systems that you follow. For example if a game featured gun combat and you tried to shoot someone there would be a set procedure in the book on how you do that leading to you either successfully hitting your target or missing.
However for situations outside of what it written in the book if falls upon the DM/GM to decide what happens.
For example another player decides to throw a rock and the game has no rules on what to do when someone throws something. The GM since they are a person then will try to create an system of rules (generally close to the spirit of the rules in the book) in that moment to decide what throwing the rock actually does.
Then whether is a in book action or an out of book action explain what happened to the rest of the party so that they can respond.

>>3007925
>plotting
They are all larping. /pol/ is unironically the biggest LARP community on this site. No real plotting happens at /pol/.
Besides the board has been neutered by spam bots.

>>3007983
First thing I'm doing is subbing it and posting it on 5ch. They love feminists and open borders.

>>3008019
Prove me wrong then.

>>3007724
I think they can go for a very classic firstr hunt(Zombies in the sewers) so they can show off some fighting(I hope that Kiara, whos a bit more experienced in TTRPGs according to some streams) plays a ex-Conspiracy kind of character sop we can have a more supernatural hunter so she can have all the menhera power fantasies, would be p fun.
The zombies in the sewers first hunt also helps the plot and investigation segue by simply asking "who put the zombies in the sewers?" and then they can go on to find a sorcerer or a Vampire that did experiments, would be a p classic plotline that offers decent chances for everyone to get comfy in their new hunter shoes and maybe play some interesting characters(I hope they dont make archetypal "brooding shotgun guy" kinda characters i want the girls to get creative) I am p hopeful cause i believe the girls are talented and can be very creative and as you said most of the paranoias this thread has are preposterous

>>3008013
>redirecting people from 4chan to reddit because you were contradicted and the idea of sites that aren't echo chambers frightens you
Do you listen to yourself

>more literal /tg/trannies may come to ruin this shit hobby like they did everything else


epic

>>3007751
Watame isn't the issue, the song is. Its the reason for the Mori is an SJW YAB even though her own works often contradict that narrative. Their post is just pointing out how Mori isn't the only one who sang this.

You don't even need to do roommate reps to know shes not an SJW. An SJW wouldn't sing 2019 guy or watch Charlie (Even if he can be kind of cringe) and definitely wouldn't tell Vtweeters to "Start creating, stop tweeting."

>>3008110
>WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS
>>reddit

>>3008092
Its the Giovanni, its always the Giovanni, even if you think its a Tremere its a fucking Giovanni raising the dead AGAIN.

>>3008037
So how much whining can we expect from TTRPGfags if Mori decides to handle a query in a way they don't like?

>>3008110
>>3008131
The funniest thing is that he's so new, he doesn't know how to do it properly. Here faggot:
>>>/reddit/

>>3008175
>How much autism can be expected from autists

>>3005740
this but unironically

>>3008175
If she explicitly goes against RAW? A fair amount. If she homebrews a solution? Not much, its usually left up to the DM, and DMs usually have a level head.

Ame will be your typical "Murder Hobo" player.

>>3005544
>I will SC this as my final act for EN if the YAB happens, probably will just get ignored but it will be fun.
you better actually deliver lmao

>>3008156
Proud to be from the same country as the siscons of the Vampire universe and most popular villain of every WoD campaign ever along with the classic Lasombra Camarilla prince that has infinite minions and goons to throw at you + a random enslaved werewolf that you are supposed to feel bad for killing

>>3008175
If she calls it a home brew everyone but ADnD purists won't care.

>Cali
bumbling Cappadocian
>Kiara
Toreador that hits on everyone
>Gura
plays a Nosferatu because she thinks the word Nosferatu sounds funny and thinks they look cute for some reason
>Ina
quiet but secretly scheming Tremere
>Ame
Malkavian that acts quiet at first as Ame is nervous; gets progressively more fish Malky as game goes on and Ame gets comfortable

>>3003772
REALLY cool idea, I'll be looking forward to it. I've never looked into ttrpgs much, and know nothing about the World of Darkness, but isn't this the world where Vampire the Masquarade Bloodlines happens? Are they doing a vampire campaign or is there something more to the WoD?

Also would you prefer if they tried recreating their own (hololive) characters in the TTRPG or would you rather them roleplay as someone completely different?

>>3005740
>kiara betrayed Hololive
wtf How? You mean by getting tired of holo EN being treated differently than holo JP by management?

>>3008247
Holy shit, yes please

>>3007919
Ame has the shittiest politics.

>>3004014
Which Hololive girl would join Clan Brujah?

>>3008328

Isn't Ame a Bernie Bro?

>>3007925
>>3007854
Only people who don't browse 5ch (or lack the Japanese skills to comprehend what they're reading) think they "make /pol/ look like commies".
Yes, Japan leans right, and yes, 5ch leans far right, but they're not as intentionally provocateurish and their far rightness is focused on hating Koreans and Chinamen for mostly political reasons, with some occasional banter towards Americans and PC culture but nowhere near as much as gaijins like to think. They're not comparable to /pol/ which has an ideological issue with almost every type of minority on the planet throughout any period in history. It's a shallow ideology and they'll never act out on it in a meaningful way, yes, but the same goes for 5ch who are mostly just virgin kimootas who have some things to say about Nanking.

>>3008247
GIMMIE DA EXP AND GEAR YOU FUCKING PEASANTS!
>Ame, you know that someone would have the equivalent of 20 bucks on them at any given time, right?
Gotta start somewhere, plus more souls for you Calli.

>>3004880
CoC... by fenoxo?

>>3008328
Nah, if she did then >>3007176 would be realistic.
She just doesn't care much.

>>3008376
>She just doesn't care much
That's the case for all of them

>>3008175
Quite a bit. One of the things is since TTRPG's have been around for around 50 years there are many schools of thought surrounding how a GM/DM should act and whoever you run something there will be others who complain. Its a reason why the best advice you can give someone is to find a group of people that all like to play together with minimal out of game conflict and never let them go.

>>3008247
thats a benefit in hunter as long as you dont get cops on your ass

>>3008293
They're playing hunter though.

>>3008296
>AWWW I WISHED I COULD HAVE COLLABED WITH VEIBAE
>OMG U RIKE ME NYANNERS! THANK YOUUUUU
She is like a soccer player who supports another team. Fuck that traitor.

>>3007176
based youtube-comment anon

>>3008421
And how fucking dare all those JP whores for collabing with nij*sanj*.
Am I doing it right?

>>3008355
I do not know nor care. The left-right axis is irrelevant.

>>3008447
Vshojo is the enemy, anon.

>>3008395
> there are many schools of thought surrounding how a GM/DM should act and whoever you run something there will be others who complain
This happens alot

Please just talk about the game

>>3008085
Literally everything in oWoD has political shit in it.
>White Wolf used to get people calling in and threatening them for using feminine pronouns in narration
>Werewolf is literally Captain Planet and pro-environmentalism. There's even one garou character who is explicitly trans and transforms from mtf between forms
>vampire politics and their degeneracy is essentially comprised of damned humans trying to not lose their humanity while treating blood like a sexual commodity. Power struggles and political will drive these stories, usually with all the bad guys being rich elites who have all the power and wealth
>Mage is literally about choosing your political ideology and trying to win with concepts made manifest
>Changeling is a critique on asylums and the value of self-expression in the face of old conventions. Also lots of gay sex
>Wraith is all about trying not to get your soul turned into mortar by those who oppress you

>>3008294
>but isn't this the world where Vampire the Masquarade Bloodlines happens?
Same world but different splats (basically the rule books) rarely directly cross over like that.
They are doing a hunter campaign so they would be killing the vampires (or not it's an RPG, they could end up working for a vampire to take out like italian mobsters that have necromantic powers, or vampires could never come up at all).

I would like original characters or at the very least a thematic shift to their usual characters to fit in the TTRPG world (say kiara truly becomes a part time warrior, as a fast food employee that hunts beasts at night after the death of a loved one)

>>3008478
For the same reason nijisanji is, sure.
For any other reason, fuck off.

>>3008527
The reason is that Vshojo are Western whores who ruin Vtubing as a whole.

>>3008328
Seethe

>>3008540
>any other reason
See the post you're replying to.

>>3008508
>There's even one garou character who is explicitly trans and transforms from mtf between forms
Unironically I like this archetype

>>3008540
You will never be Japanese

>>3004879
>>3004824
Na Na na. Ina will make a stupid and silly character, laugh at the other's usual silliness and contribute almost nothing with the likes of "oh remember my character has an afro" or "I start playing a sad tune :( ". Also she will minmax as much as she can

>>3008478

Man, Twitter's gonna give you a heart attack if you ever visit it. Calli talking to several members, Ollie making Kiara look like a Vshojo recluse in comparison, proof Ame and Silvervale were best friends once, etc.

>>3008540
oh no not streaming
anything but the sacred act of streaming

>>3008540
>He wasn't around for Erolive
A shame really

>>3008569
Isn't that just Ranma?

>>3006178
vete de chile :'v

>>3008540
>>3008576

You will never be Japanese. You have no ancestry, you have no citizenship, you have no skills that would make Japan ever want you. You are a shut-in self-hating white man twisted by delusions of mythical Japanese superiority and exposure to Japanese media into a disgusting mockery of nature’s perfection.

All 'validation' you get from other people in this position couldn't be worse in making you believe that spending years of your life learning a globally useless language to a first-grader's level was a worthwhile use of your time, but one can't expect that an individual as pathetic as you will ever know the value of the youth you threw away in doing that.

Actual Japanese are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of years of linguistic evolution have allowed natives to identify frauds from mannerisms and vocabulary alone. Even if your written text of self-hatred and attention begging akin to a stray dog's somehow passes as normal (it won't), any Japanese person will immediately cut all ties when they hear the voice and accent of someone who is not only a basic Japanese speaker at best, but worth no more than garbage in skills, accomplishments, and likeability.

You will never be happy. You wrench out a fake smile and laugh to yourself believing that watching a content creator that you understand 20% of at best is somehow superior than watching your own kind, as you project your disgusting traits onto your entire kind. However, deep inside you feel the depression creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight, and you know that. You know that all you do now is have an entirely new linguistic medium in which to be ignored, and not even the exotic trait of being foreign makes up for just how uninteresting of a person you are.

Eventually it’ll be too much to bear - you’ll buy a rope, tie a noose, put it around your neck, and plunge into the cold abyss. Your parents will find you, heartbroken but relieved that they no longer have to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment. They’ll bury you with a headstone marked with your birth name, and every passerby for the rest of eternity will know a Western man is buried there. Your body will decay and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is a skeleton that is unmistakably Caucasian.

This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back. Hate yourself and apologize for being white to some Japanese entity that exists only in your mind while actual Japanese people put in effort to learn English for the valid reason of it being the global language.

>>3008587
So it has been confirmed that EN was a mistake.

>>3008595
I miss those times...

>>3008421
I genuinely don't understand the type of psychosis required to think like this.

>>3008612
>:'v
anon...

>>3008614
Good pasta. /jp/ is/was full of retarded wapanese who need to understand that they'll never fuck that Japanese woman they always wanted to.
Beyond that, you're fucking retarded if you think the overtly sexual nature of Westen vtubers is a good thing. Subtlety is important and people are too black and white now-a-days.

>>3008614
>>3008576
I do not give a shit about gooks. Their entire value to me in this world is to create decent 2D and people from other countries can do that as well, but just like with all other things that were good in this world, the disgusting Western cancer wants to ruin it. There is literally one thing left in this world that entertains me and the Western degenerates are aiming for its destruction. Of course that pisses me off.

>>3008697
I gotta remain in character
t.chileno

>>3008605
Yeah but more serious

if I were the master, I would make the girls play traveler 2019. Character creation is a game in itself and it would warm up the girls to the idea of rolling die. The character creation would spark a TON of fanart and expectation for the game proper. which would go not as good, but I am used to that[/spoiler

>>3004014
ah yes, since we all know Mori's and chimkin's roommates are raging trannylovers, this is gonna be so cringe that you better bring some booze to watch this shit

>>3008715
Man you seem like the kind of person that would be much happier with a lobotomy that way you could live a simple life farming or something while the rest of the people who can handle the world live out their own happy lives.

>>3003863
>>3004014
Eh, WoD can be as political as you want it to be. Yes there is some complete trash in there but you can safely ignore it. It's still a good setting and second editions of nWoD are also a really good system.

I played a lot of WoD with different people over the years and it literally never got into dumbshit politics territory. This crap is in the books so that people who want to be dumb SJWs can do it. That's it really.

>>3007176
This is the most realistic scenario I've ever read

>>3008817
The worst type of /tg/ poster.
>Instead of X system I would use other system.

>>3008989
Dungeons the dragoning 40k is the answer to all system problems. Embrace the madness.

>>3006976
>nWoD
>Tremere

>>3009049
no thats gurps

>>3008859
Although NWoD is even more batshit political, the removal of meta plot beyond suggestions means it wasn’t as required to be addressed, compared to owod.

>>3003863
>is it true
Ohhh boy AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA.

>>3004736
The collab has been talked about since november, with ina being the fastest to answer that collab request, it was the other 3 autists not picking up the fucking phone

>>3009171
Jesus

>>3009199
kill me now

>>3008817
WoD fits way better with Calli.

>>3009171
>>3009199
You realize you can also play people working for a literal Nazi vampire who was in SS and burns people to death for fun right? Are you fags new to RPG or something? The entire point is having options to play anything you want.

>>3009362
Nah. It's more interesting play as racia fluid character

>>3004391
Wasn't there a based "True Brujah" clan? I always wanted to try that.
>>3005446
It ain't so since they're playing Hunter, not Vampire. It's still made by the same company though, but I'm fairly certain different people within that company are responsible for it. Hunter is to my knowledge the least pozzed out of all of the 12 games series. And this is all I'll say to avoid a 5000 word rant about Chronicles of Darkness.
>>3003863
Despite knowing just how bad it really is, I'm still excited about it. Because my man, you don't even know the half of it.
>>3006046
Some Vampires try to repent/break the curse (Non have come back succesful, or hid themselves afterword's so Its not known if its possible), some try to become as monstrous to act as an example of how not be to scare people into being good religious folk.
>>3006353
This is mostly accurate.
>>3004880
An individual group of hunters is a cell. Which is where you should start regardless, unless all your players know what they're doing and wanna start off in based conspiracies like Task Force VALKYRIE.

>>3009049
>Le play FATAL man
>DeadEarth is actually good guys
>I like legends of atlantis the cat of 9 tails instantly killing any enemy is a fun meta.

>>3009432
Anarchs are a tiny minor faction getting fucked by everyone everywhere except for few cities in California.

Also this shit is old WoD lore from the shitty new edition nobody liked. This has literally nothing to do with nWoD they want to play. Rudi, anarchs of gangrels literally don't fucking exist there.

>>3009463
True Brujah had time based powers, and Golconda def exists.

>>3008678
Tribalism is one hell of a drug. Monkey-brained and debased.

>>3005415
They're playing Hunter, not Vampire.

>>3003772
Why couldn't they have just done Dungeons and Dragons like normal people

>>3010546
because they dont want to be compared to critical role and the easiest way to avoid that is to play a different rpg

>>3010546
Because DnD is cliche and passe.

>>3006072
Right in the book it goes.

>>3010546
DnD is one of the worst RPG games out there.

>>3010546
>Dungeons and Dragons like normal people
>these girls being normal people
anon come on

>>3010546
>d20 is a trash system
>generic medieval fantasy is overdone
>WoD fits 10x better with autism reaper

Truly a mystery.

>>3006072
Gura has plenty calm streams it's Ame who has ADHD.

>>3011617
>Ame has ADHD
Reward her collab streams with the JP girls. She can keep it in check for hours at a time if she wants to which means its all show.

>>3010546
They are spooky horror monsters. It fits.

>>3010546
>DnD
>not Paladin or Wormskin
There are so many good options out there.

>>3009171
>>3009199
>>3009432
>posting the same tired shit from VtM 5e
There's a reason why VtR in nWoD is superior, because it doesn't have this tryhard garbage.

>>3003841
Spoken like someone with no understanding of the themes Mori likes.

>>3007983
No need, they’ll take even the vaguest mention of anything and call it the final yab