/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>30801978
holy based

>>30801978
I'll miss them.

>>30802946
yeah
oldRyS love

>Take a short nap
>Miss the rarest heart there is

No matter how much I hate you all sometimes, I am really grateful to have Nephamily sticking with IRyS

Got a <3 from IRyS for the first time bros
Is this what it is like to feel like a Gosling?
I joined in her membership just for fun. She is ruining me!!!!

STREAM DOKO?!?!??

>>30801978

>>30803956
New Gosling?

>>30804143
Rust soon, after la lion 3DLive

>>30801978
>break again

>>30804633
your post makes no sense at all

It feels kinda shitty that we got all our 1 year badges today and she wasn't streaming for it. What was she even doing instead? Her other posts make it seem like she at home playing Rust offline. Why not stream it even with just a PNG?

>>30805373
2 magic words: vocal rest

>>30805373
Her vocal cords are being fried. She has to take days off. Singer's nodes are no joke and honestly she should be taking more precautions than she does

Irys has been getting a lot of great fanarts for the past month. what changed?

>>30808155
Nothing. She always had a steady flow of decent fanart.

>>30801978
The nerve on her <3

HiRyS! It's MelonRyS!

>>30805373
Do you even fucking watch streams
How many times do we have to go over this

>IRyS is playing rust
>No stream
....

>>30808722
Practising, shes doing off stream recon on where Pekora lives and is planning the assassination.
If she streamed it autists would tell on her in Pekora's chat

>>30801978

Rust tomorrow 10AM JST

>>30808964
>10AM JST
I woke up for Shuba's P4 at 6AM, but that was only because it's on weekeneds. EN time slots are unreasonable for us EU bros. I wish IRyS streamed in the regular JP evening time slot more often, since it's perfect. Although it's oversaturated with JP streams, which are kind of a competition for IRyS, since she's been doing bilingual pandering recently.

>>30801978

IRyS Ina and Bae Doing a watchalong of Mori's concert the 20

https://twitter.com/hakosbaelz/status/1558800864630161408
Another week full of collabs

She's being cute again

>>30809117
>EN time slots are unreasonable for us EU bros
You get used to it

>>30809603
>Calli concert watchalong
GUH

>>30805430
I have nothing against that, but I'd always welcome another silent & chat bubble stream. It'll be hard outside of watchalong, though, I guess

>>30809749
They just keep making more stream ideas I have to skip.
Dammit just do a comfy zatsu IRyS

>>30809798
She could become a TTS vtuber like that vshojo dragon

>>30808964
Where do you see that?

>>30810580
my spirit guides revealed it to me

She's in free chat

>>30810705
Not anymore

>>30810705
She was there for a while. I need to fix my script to notify me of FREE CHAT appearences.
>hirys
>and thank you so much for the red super eden!
>and welcome to the nephamily new members!!
> grinding rust for next time how u guys been?
>im hungry too
>rust makes me want to try bear meat
>i switched to borderless and using my tiny screen to chat with u guys right now while making sulfer
>o someone found my base?
>haven't eaten anything yet but had tonkatsu yesterday!
>windy banana still cold in the fridge
>and rust tomorrow...perhaps?
>probably an earlier time than usual!
>prolly around there!!
>u figured it out? okies ill pray on 1 lol
>gambled a bit off stream too but lost everything
>only on 1?
>rust is addicting
>yesss id sports fes the day after tomorrow!!
>my team looks like the winning team
>yessss waiting for bae to come when pc arrives
>still got that human meat in storage too
>oh no im not getting a new pc anytime soon
>i wish i could get one of those new graphics cards but im not confident in dissecting pc-kun
>sadly the meat will disappear by new season
>but i can just die again
>ill sudoku right infront of bed
>met some senpais a bit just a while ago but im too scared to kill them
>i gave a gun to a senpai
>when we were both chasing supplies
>and got a camera
>no i think we were both off stream
>all the senpais seem to have such good gear
>idk if its a fight i could win
>yeah i wanna team up with somebody
>are teams only for 2 ppl or can it be a bigger group?
>no offline raiding is the only rule ive heard so far
>my umaRyS disappeared
>i think someone stole em
>so i stole someone's horse yesterday too
>and that disappeared too
>do horses just spawn randomly?
>i did keep mine in the house (the one that i stole) and it was gone when i logged in today ;;
>oh
>i mightve forgot to leave food
>i have bear meat in storage so yes
>i got them guns now
>bears are only prey to me
>yeah gotta steal a horse again
>oh no never had bear meat before
>ive been walking around all day and cant find a single horse just standing in the middle of nowhere
>do horses eat seeds?
>cuz they obviously dont eat meat lol
>horse>chicken in the food chain i guess
>ive shot plenty of chicken so they aint safe here
>rust chicken is more juicy than bear since u can raise hydration more eating them
>rust tomorrow 10AM
>ill set 2 alarms
>i got a nail appointment at 4 so will have to end by like 2:30 lol
>also eyebrow wax and thats probably gonna hurt LOL
>eyebrow shape changes up things a lot ;o though this is also my first time going to wax them so im preparing myself mentally
>girls doing girly things
>even pulling my eyebrows hurts like a beach but hey, i wanna try have a specialist style my eyebrows for me once
>im not gonna be eyebrowless
>eyebrowless sounds terrifying ngl
>and ive heard if you pull eyebrows out too often, they dont grow back
>so yes, high responsibility to the eyebrow artist tomorrow
>thanks guys
>ive heard tattoo-ing eyebrows is a thing to certain ppl
>but im not that brave
>i once bought an eyebrow pencil in the wrong color
>and had unnaturally colored eyebrows for a few days
>i thought it looked fine until mamaRyS told me it was weird
>i never drew eyebrows again
>thats why im getting them nicely shaped tomorrow
>im horrible at drawing on my face desu
>i never know whats right and wrong
>yes specifically only on the face
>im jealous of u dudes
>threaded?! *google search incoming*
>i had my sis pluck my eyebrows at first and cried like a baby
>it hurts
>im googling threading right now and still dont get it
>how does that work?!
>literally
>that sounds just as painful as plucking it
>learn so much from freechat
> knowledge
>yes watchalong happening on bae's channel on the 19th im pretty sure!
>alright ima go eat something!! will get a stream reservation up after my meal!! nice talking to u guys!!

>>30811673
Shes actually grinding to keep her rust house
Colour me impressed

>>30811673
umaRyS starved to death...

>Missed her in free chat now
I'm going to make beef stew to cheer myself up

Schedule
15-Rust
16-Holo ID cup Minecraft (Anya Ch.)
19-Chadcast(Bae Ch.)
20-Concert watchalong(Bae Ch.)

>>30811673
>>i wish i could get one of those new graphics cards but im not confident in dissecting pc-kun
She should do a PC-building stream. She could learn, I'm sure. Even if she doesn't use it for streaming.

sometimes I wish Mori would be murdered by a hobo oji-san with a gravelly voice who then replaces her

>>30812828
wrong thread schizobeat

>>30812828
Kinda based

>>30812828
Nowa…

>>30813071
who the fuck is nowa? The guy with the Ark?

>>30813143
noir vesper

>>30813182
Oh, one of the homos.
Whats with the faggoty pet name? fucking chumbuds don't even do that

>>30813274
I don't understand it either

>>30813274
IRyS has obviously heard it and let it slip in her last rust stream

>>30813143
It's from the Japs on 5ch apparently.

>>30813318
People are using them as surrogate friends, which is honestly more pathetic than gfe enjoyers

>>30813274
That's how nips pronounce his name and anons dragged it back /here/

>>30813788
People are just watching streams to be entertained and kill some time. Don’t read so much into it

>>30814689
They're not wrong you know

>>30814689
Their split is more parasoical than a fucking Lamy thread.
After all the shit homofags give people who only watch Hololive, they ooze of the pot calling the kettle black.
They're no different

>>30815796
why do you assume everyone who watches the homos has the same opinion

she's still on rust

>>30816539
Spotted on stream?

>>30816763
nah, no one has logged off the server since she said she was making sulfur

>>30816962
She should stream.
I hope she's enjoying herself.

>>30816962
you know it doesnt show login/logoff messages right

>>30817100
you can see player counts

>>30817302
many people are logging in and out

https://litter.catbox.moe/wpwxu2.jpg
https://litter.catbox.moe/d93bay.jpg

>Rust arc
>Everyone says everyone in EN would touch it once and then never again
>They're all playing it offline now
>Have to keep up with JP streams to see glimpses now even for the shork
It's a fun arc if you're up at JP time and know your reps I guess

>>30817700
There's been a decent amount of EN streams to be fair, everyone's been playing offline

>>30817671
Opps I didn't mean to post my private pictures of my and my WifeRyS making love. It was supposed to be funny melon pics. Sorry guys

>>30817671
This is the second high quality porn art of her that I've seen this week. Wholy welcome though

>>30817408
source: dude trust me

>>30818059
I mean unless you can constantly monitor the player count you can't tell if someone's left or joined because there's people entered and leaving the server all the time

>>30817671
She loves the dark meat huh. Guess she did make a lot of size queen statements on stream.

>>30817671
>>30818333
The artist took a lot of artistic liberties. Even if the skin-tone is wrong it's nice that they took my proportions into account. I can't thank them enough for that.

>>30818734
>Even if the skin-tone is wrong
Irys doesn't have a canon skin tone

>>30817671
who is the artist?

>>30818939
https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/21101760

Has Aki seen IRyS' place? She's at the lighthouse right now

>>30819026
>Korean
Ah, makes sense now.

i was bored and played delivering hope and beat IRyS' record in one try. it's actually impressive how bad her decisionmaking is. on the other hand on most subsequent tries i kept dying around 4k and i think whoever made the game must be psyopping me to hate bae and mori because holy fucking shit their smug faces really started setting me off

>>30819750
She wasn't paying attention to the game or thinking about it

>>30819827
you're right, i'm negging my nephilim wife because i feel insecure about only being slightly better than her at this game

>>30819750
She's borderline retarded

>>30820038
>Only slightly better than this pon nephilim woman child at vidya
IRyStocrat....

>>30820091
thats why i feel bad about it anon

>>30820091
I love her for it

Just got back from the coconut plantation
IRyS status?
IRystocrats status?

>>30820232
...coconut plantation? is this a euphemism for coming back from work, or is there some meme i'm missing. or were you actually at a coconut plantation

>>30820285
I'm from the Philippines

>>30812153
Feels like this CHAD Cast is too soon, but then I remembered the last one got postponed for a week.

>>30820232
IRyS playing Rust or reading manga, stream tomorrow.
Me, happy for getting more IRyS soon but a bit mad for another full collab week

>>30820232
She's grinding in Rust and eating
I'm playing Zomboid and making stew

>>30820510
She might have a stream between the ID festival and chadcast

>>30820584
lol

I love IRyS, she's a cute dork

Will you watch the mori concert or will you skip it and maybe chadcast too cause there's no way they won't bring it up

>>30820663
I watch anything with Irys because I don't have crippling autism

>>30820663
Skipping both. I love myself a bit more than IRyS.

>>30817671

>>30820663
The Mori watchalong is a shameless Cover cash grab and I can't believe she agreed to it. I'm ambivalent on Mori but doing this watchalong to sell more tickets the day before it ends is shameful.

>>30820663
Skip on principle.
I'm tired of others getting everything while IRyS languishes. When will she get a concert?

>>30820663
I'll just listen to it in the background unless somebody posts a link to it for free.

>>30820785
>link to it for free.
I'll report every restream to Cover.

>>30820770
When she wants one hard enough to work for it

>>30820663
I'lll watch the watchalong but i won't watch the concert.

>>30820843
You don't get it, her work ethic doesn't mean anything. She can't make her own decisions.

frame in a minute

>>30820869
who are you?

>>30820770
When she gets a redesign and a 3D and new management

>>30820913
IRyS

>>30820871
You're the one that doesn't get it.

>>30820944
impossible

It's already been over 1 minute

>>30820975
Explain to me how she can get a concert if she works hard? It's not up to her.
She doesn't have performance quotas to hit. Management aren't setting targets for her. Instead, they leave her in the corner on her own and she gets nothing.

>>30820944
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>30820944

>>30820944
nigger

>>30821055
Why do you want her to be handed a concert without doing any of the work when she wouldn't even be able to perform in her current physical condition?

I wish I could hear any actual concrete critique about her "work ethic" even once. Instead it's all just vague shitposting that doesn't actually say anything.

>>30821204
Her condition is fine. She just has to stand there and sing. Her cute little body movements would probably be awkward anyway.

>>30821256
There's no debating she does a fraction of the work when it comes making music compared to normal Holos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-R21KSUg8Og

>>30821326
She does the work that's handed to her.
She can't make her own decisions.

>>30820869
https://twitter.com/irys_en/status/1558846385692192768?s=20&t=WdogUdZC9Dz1twyeixqB7g

>>30821356
>2am
I can to watch a stream live again bros. This is my month

>>30821356
>Frame up
It ain't one minute but. What the fuck

>early stream
Fudge

>>30821256
>Instead it's all just vague shitposting that doesn't actually say anything.
That's because there is no concrete criticism to make and it's schizos posting feelings instead of facts

>>30821398
Suck it up and watch it anyway. It's 30°C right now. I'm going to sleep.

>>30821400
You act like people in her private discord don't post here

>>30821316
She didn't sound good in her anirevo concert and that was only 6 songs. You don't want her to do a real concert and sound like this: https://youtu.be/Xq9JWIf9zOY?t=5225
or it's just going to be embarrassing
>>30821400
She said she would eat and put the frame up

i have always wanted to call IRyS a nigger...

>>30821464
>She didn't sound good in her anirevo concert
I wasn't there for that and it wasn't streamed. She sounded awful in the phone recordings but that's the fault of the recording.

>>30821449
I'm going to. I retardedly typed "can" instead of "get"

>>30820663
Isn't it paywalled?

>>30821578
nothing is paywalled

>>30821578
Yeah

>>30820663
I don't watch anything with bae or mori
I do vod reps instead

>>30821644
Weak

>>30821644
Why do you have vods left to watch?

IRyS if you are here just do go full on collabs one week a put some short streams too(1-2 hours)

>>30821644
based

>>30821722
Even if she's ESL I'm not sure she'll be able to understand your ESL English

>>30821722
don't do it IRyS. people here will go schizo if you do.

IRyS have a hag only collab week

>>30821683
I rewatch them

>sleep
>miss comment heart
>miss freechatRyS
i'm never sleeping again

>>30822021
You're just like me...

>>30821356
piggy getting her hooves dirty gambling

>>30801978
yeah, she'd have to be screwed over hard to make her even consider leaving hololive. this is someone who loves what she does but loves her audience even more.

>>30822990
She had to write something for the 1 year anniversary

>>30822021
You still have to monitor all of her chats which is a pain. I think I might write a Twitter bot to do this.

>>30823253
i have her freechat open 24/7

>>30823502
So do I but I don't always look at it and there's no indication of activity.
I'm going to do some fucking reps and make something useful for once. A bot that polls her chats and tweets her messages. I'll make it so that @irys_en can reply "delete" to any of them and the message will go poof if she doesn't want it on Twitter for some reason.

>>30823670
sounds worthwhile to me

When IRyS ultimately gets her redesign, do you believe it's likely or unlikely Redjuice will still be the artist?

>>30825339
unlikely because nothing he draws really looks much different to her current design

I Love IRyS, hope she's doing fine.

>>30826470
Me too!

>>30826607
Nice.

>>30825339
Likely based on how she talked about it during that one T5 stream and how rare artist changes are

>>30826927
redesigns are rare too
theres no reason to assume the artist wont change just because it hasn't happened before

>>30801978
wtf I love IRyS again now?

>>30825339
Highly unlikely. I don't think the design is the problem, but the artist himself. However, I didn't think that she'd get a full blown redesign. Until recently. That comment about changing the whole set of chat stamps pretty much spells out, the design will be different. Which is rather strange. Since the design was made for Cover, for IRyS. It's not like the artist can just take back the work he was paid for. (Unless there are some weird nip IP laws at play or something). But that leaves us only one option, I'm afraid. She must've asked for a redesign as well, while they were changing the artist. Because she doesn't like the original. I'll miss the horns.
Well, that's what I gather from this "time for a change" business anyway. I might be wrong, of course.

>>30830134
Why did you stop loving her in the first place?

I don't understand how large of a change he wants it to be. I'd imagined it being more like an artstyle overhaul with basically the same design, but maybe it's like a complete redo? That's why it's taking 1.5 years? Shit's weird

>>30830618
From what she said, she's been pushing to get a redesign pretty much the entire time she's been in Hololive, they've just now approved it, so now it has to happen

>>30830618
>That's why it's taking 1.5 years?
During the anniversary IRyS said it was something she was pushing for the last 6 months. I think it was. So, the actual work probably didn't start until recently. She was trying to convince the higher-ups and whoever else most of that time.

>>30830359
It'd be really surprising if she lost the horns. While she doesn't like redjuice's art style in general I think she'd be able to come to a compromise with a lighter skin tone, different hairstyle and a cleaner and more generic style even if it was from redjuice. Would be weird to release a daki if the design is going to be completely different before it even gets shipped. As for the stamps, if her hairstyle is a lot different then it would make sense that she has to redo all of them.

>>30830359
Purely speculation here but Im guessing she'll probably keep the outfit mostly the same, and the same color scheme, but a different face, different hair, and definitely different horns or no horns

Will IRyS ever get a 3D model? She'd be a perfect fit in the JP concerts right? Native speaker and all.

>>30830868
Yes, every holo will get a 3D model

>>30830817
>It'd be really surprising if she lost the horns
She talks about wanting to take them off all the time

>>30830908
She could graduate before then

>>30830908
>>30830945

>>30830817
>Would be weird to release a daki if the design is going to be completely different before it even gets shipped.
Not just the daki, but all her merch in general if she's getting a drastic redesign.

>>30831180
The merch train doesn't stop just cause you're getting a redesign

>>30830817
>It'd be really surprising if she lost the horns.
She mentioned during the Fauna collab that she can't hide her horns "unfortunately", like she can with the wings and halo. So, she probably doesn't really like them. Which is a shame, since I really, really do. I miss Ojou...
>even if it was from redjuice
I personally don't think the art style is the issue here. I think Redjuice is just a shit papa, who doesn't want to support his daughter. Well, not necessarily doesn't want, maybe he's buried in some other vtuber-unrelated works or something. But that doesn't change the fact that IRyS didn't just not get her kimono, she's got NOTHING since her debut. No new accessories, hairstyles, etc.
>As for the stamps, if her hairstyle is a lot different then it would make sense that she has to redo all of them.
I honestly don't see how a change in the hairstyle should affect chat stamps. You don't see other holos redoing the whole stamp set because of a new hairstyle or even a new outfit. You can just add the new ones and keep the old.
This is even more baffling, considering the old merch will stay the same anyway. I hope she doesn't actually hate the design. There's nothing wrong with it per se, not even with Redjuice's artstyle. It's the lack of support, imo.

>>30830847
I think the outfit and hair style are the two design elements most likely to completely change in a redesign
>>30831230
Yeah but she might have waited for the redesign before going for a daki

>>30831275
Her outfit is great though

>>30830945
>>30831041
It really doesn't seem like she would just give up and quit like Sana did. Not after she's been putting so much effort into this job. This whole "change" thing is the biggest proof that she wants to keep going forward.

>>30831248
>But that doesn't change the fact that IRyS didn't just not get her kimono, she's got NOTHING since her debut. No new accessories, hairstyles, etc.
Could have something to do with the fact that she's been trying to get a redesign

>>30821394
enjoy the stream guys, for some reason RUST makes me really sick every time I try to watch it so I'll have to pass on it

>>30831362
Its likely, if she kept pushing for a artist change then there would be no reason making assets for the current one.
I won't speculate too much though

>>30831248
It's not like Cover kept asking him for accessories and outfits and he refused, so it's hard to tell. He produced a NY outfit and the issue with it seemed to have been because of management not passing on IRyS' requests to him
>>30831346
Unlike Sana she doesn't have anything else going for her

>>30831418
yeah, and cover released a statement saying that her new years outfit wasn't up to scratch so it was delayed

>>30831439
>Unlike Sana she doesn't have anything else going for her
she could settle down and find a husband
she's not getting any younger

>>30831525
Too immature for that

>>30831525
I volunteer

>>30831362
Don't they take the talents' inputs on the designs now? I could swear I've heard something along those lines from as early as 5th gen. It just seems extremely odd to just decide to scrap the initial design the first thing you get hired.
Anyway, I'll believe when I see it. I haven't seen much activity from Redjuice on SnS or anywhere. Doesn't have to be a new outfit. Other papas and mamas often post art pieces, say hi in the stream chat, or even collab with their daughters. Call me biased against Redjuice, I don't care. We'll see soon enough.

Yeah, me.

>>30801978
>sharing members only content
I feel dirty that disgusting grays were able to read this message.

>>30831675
>Don't they take the talents' inputs on the designs now?
Yes
But I think she wants a new artist all together, his style just sucks for this and I don't think there's any salvaging it
Trying to make him draw something cuter would be a foolish decision, he doesn't do 'cute'

>>30831811
Then curse the chumbud that did it

>>30831939

>>30831811
I've been membered for 12 months before becoming a grayname so I'm glad that someone leaked it so I could see her first members only post talking to her fans

>>30832974
Yeah she loves and appreciates the nephamily so much she does next to nothing for them as far as members content goes. 2nd post in one year btw

>>30831811
I cancelled recently after 10 months, i feel like i deserve to read this despite being a graynig now.

>>30833074
*loves the nephamily 's money

>>30833074
Most of her hardcore fans think it's enough and she seems to be in a phase where she wants to be more active on that front so maybe she won't wait one year before the next one. Judging from the post she's not good at typing things out though so I understand why she doesn't and just wants to talk during streams instead

>>30833270
Words ring hollow if there is never any action resulting from them

>Last Streamed: 4 days ago

As a deaf viewer I'm outraged by her lack of members posts

>>30833456
I’m literally Hellen Keller and I’m absolutely livid that she’s not channeling her streams straight into my mind

>>30833366
Not sure what she would need to do to make you happy, but she's been communicating more about her streams and breaks lately, interacting more with the usual superchatters with longer superchat readings, calling them out by name, interacting with fan content on twitter, meet & greets, free chat, etc. I don't really care for it since I don't identify with her fanbase much but she seems to be trying to do things right at the moment

>>30833366
Her hardcore fans love her

>>30833774
She's specifically talking about how much she loves and appreciates her members while doing next to nothing for them that the grey's don't also get. One watchalong a month of a shitty anime is all her members get for all that love. It's nothing compared to most other ENs.

>>30833877
>most other ENs.
do fuckall

>>30833195
You're not the only one based on the amount of likes the post got

>>30833903
Gura does a lot for her members

>>30834005
too bad shes not most ENs

>>30834005
So does Ame, Mori, Kiara. Mumei, Fauna, and Bae an don't do many member posts but they do way more streams. Ina does the same amount of streams but waaay more members posts, sometimes including art.

>>30834076
They all do more than IRyS.

>>30834115
Yeah IRyS does the absolute least for members, at there's another karaoke coming up

>>30833903
You're not membered to any other EN or are just lying on purpose

>>30834193
at least* tired

>>30834195
I'm membered to 6 ENs
the only one who does a lot of members content is Gura

>>30834193
The karaoke thing shows she wants to do more. We'll have to see if it happens or if it lasts

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>>30834643
I wonder if her door is still backwards..

>>30834643
No 0116?

>>30834643
>one of these

>>30834643
What about 8008?

>>30834547
Anon I want you to playfully squeeze your hand right now.

IRyS is a cute dork!

imagine irys
but no horns

>>30836978
>irys

>>30837179
>iryS

irys gomi irys gomi irys gomi irys gomi irys gomi

>>30836702
>MCDonalds
Pretty sure there's a 5 Guys or In-n-out in JPland.

if she had no horn's she'd just be irs

>>30837343
>IRyS
>IRIS
holy shit...

>>30830359
do you even watch the streams? her horns will stay there. she confirmed it already.

>>30836978

>>30837571
>He didn't see the hornless T9 member stream

>>30830740
from her last stream it sounded as it is not that far from getting finished.
maybe until november.

>>30837571
Link?

>>30836702
That's a lot of food for small noodle-armed nephilim

>>30837651
That's still three months away. Three time more than has passed since the announcement. The work didn't start a month ago (hopefully), but I wouldn't say it's "not that far" exactly.

>>30837652
go to the last megaman stream

>>30838006
Timestamp?

>>30837795
well... she is waiting for it for over 1 year. +3 months is actually some nice improvement

>>30838036
there are plenty of them in the comment section

>>30838053
I honestly don't quite believe this narrative about her actually hating her design from the start. I'm sure it didn't start a whole year ago. Something must have happened to make her resort to such a drastic course of action. Something half a year prior to the anniversary. So around the New Year time, and Council and HoloX kimonos.

>>30838236
>I honestly don't quite believe this narrative about her actually hating her design from the start.
She said that she has been pushing for a change for a long time
It's not a narrative

>>30838094
True. Nothing about the horns though.
She never actually explicitly mention the change was going to be a redesign, even if everyone is suspecting it. Let alone talking about something specific such as keeping or dropping the horns.
Well, if don't count this stream.
https://youtu.be/gqxiQbFk_gs?t=2061

>>30838461
There is literally nothing else a "change to my appearance" can be that is not a new outfit

>>30838529
A change in artstyle is not a redesign. She can keep the same outfit, features, so on and so forth, just drawn in a new art style. Just go browse her art tag, other than her being drawn as a game character, they are all the same design drawn in a different style.

>>30838299
Please, read my whole post before hitting the reply button next time.
Again, I'm not saying she didn't push for it. She said as much herself. I'm saying that didn't start immediately after her debut. Something more serious that a simple dissatisfaction with the original design must've caused it.

>>30838621
redoing the whole thing over in a different style from scratch is a redesign

>>30838665
>Something more serious that a simple dissatisfaction with the original design must've caused it.
That doesn't make any sense
Obviously someone who just joined Hololive isn't going to immediately say "please get me a new model now", that's just ungrateful and disrespectful, but I'm sure she started doing it as soon as she felt comfortable doing so

>>30838299
>Have you at least told [redjuice] what's going on?
>[...] And when they finally... finally they're like "Yes we have contacted [him]"
>And I'm like "you could have contacted [him] last year"
Based on that I'm guessing that she at least had a few details about her model or design that she wanted corrected pretty early on. It might have evolved into a total redesign at some point. Note that the conversation above was at the end of May.
https://litter.catbox.moe/if5o0l.ogg

>>30838688
The same character with the same features in a different style is not a new design

>>30838621
>>30838688
look before both of you shit this thread up with a semantics argument, the word doesn't matter. you can call it a remodel or a redesign. this entire discussion will just end up being "durrrr i can fit the triangle into the circle shaped hole if i try" so just don't bother. shape match discussions are the death of intellect

>>30838688
By that logic this is a redesign. It's not btw.

>>30838758
Well now we're just being pedantic, but normally we'd call being redrawn in a different style a "redesign"

>>30834643
1337?

>>30838621
NTA, but I'm afraid it is a redesign after all. At first, I didn't think it would be, same as you. But that member post (if it's true, I cannot check, unfortunately) is rather convincing. The chat stamps are something so insignificant, that would require change only in case if they'd be out of place after the "change". And the change in just artstyle hardly warrants the change of the stamps, which are obviously done in a different style by a different artist than her L2D.

stop faggots. rise above your destiny of being midwits.

>>30838843
She doesn't know that

>>30838843
thats my pin number for my debit card

>>30838742
No, what doesn't make sense is getting a new model without a good reason. "I don't like it" would hardly convince the management. It took the whole of China for Nene and Flare to get a redesign. IRyS is a spoiled princess for DadRyS, but I don't think she'd get the same treatment from YAGOO. Not that soon anyway. For now, I'm convinced botched up kimono and Redjuice being a hack have something to do with it. In case she gets a new L2D by Redjuice feel free to ridicule me. But that's gonna wait until November (or later).

>>30839160
>without a good reason
The model fucking sucks, that's a good reason
Flare's model sucked too, so did Mikos

>>30839160
Literally from the very first day people have noticed her design sticks out like a sore thumb. In fact that was my very first reaction to IRyS and I didn't watch her for months. "Wow, this model looks really bad. Or at least out of place."
I've grown to like it now, but it at least WAS a debuff and she knows that. There's an argument to be made that since people are used to it she runs the risk of a greater debuff by changing it, but it's not as if there's not good enough precedent already for changing it. She wants fans. Cover wants money. No reason not to change it

>>30839325
I think we're dealing with one of those people who tries to pretend her model doesn't suck

>>30839368
desu i also kind of buy the rrats that it's too brown for her. it is entirely on brand for asian girls to not want to be too brown

>>30839436
She already fixed that herself

>>30839474
Still a problem for collabs

How early did Flare and Nene say that it was a redesign instead of having to vaguepost about "change"?

>>30839474
yeah with bleach

>>30839236
>>30839325
>The model fucking sucks
Should we expect Anya, Kaela or, hell, even Matsuri to morb any time soon then? Because their models stick out like a sore thumb among other holos too.
The model is fine. Sure, it has grown on me too, and I'm not unbiased here. But I think the issue here not as shallow (or maybe, on the contrary as serious) as the artstyle or the way the L2D looks. I think there are some deeper issues in the whole IRyS-Cover-rigger-artist pipeline, which is supposed to work to satisfy the talent's needs. And I'm leaning towards the artist's end, I mean the cause of the issue is closer to that end.

>>30839565
Why are we going through all these mental gymnastics trying to pretend she isn't getting a redesign when it's so fucking obvious

>>30839624
actually the entire redesign is just going to be surgery to have her horns removed. it's tricky because she has nerves there anon... that's why it's so sensitive

>>30839601
>The model is fine
No it's not. It's really bad. It's the worst model in the company, it puts people off at first sight. Anya's is pretty bad too, but she chooses to use her ugliest outfits
Your speculation is retarded, you're ignoring the simpliest and most likely explaination

>>30839565
>Flare and Nene
They just got new clothes. And Flare's old one was better. I wouldn't call that a redesign. Flare's still a dark elf, still a blonde, still has sexy long legs.

>Flare and IRyS filtered by their own designs
Shit taste, honestly.

>>30839740
i'm not sure what you're arguing. are you arguing she won't get a redesign?

>>30839740
Her face changed too
>>30839624
I know it's a redesign, I guess we won't know the extent until the reveal

Flare didn't really get a redesign, she got new models and new outfits, because her original model was terrible

>>30839833
>I guess we won't know the extent until the reveal
Sounds significant if she wants to put off even getting new emotes

>>30839705
Your explanation, while indeed the simplest, requires Cover prostrating themselves before a very new hire and going "as you wish" when she says she doesn't like her model. And I just can't imagine this happening in Japanese working culture where seniority is everything.

I can't pretend it anymore guys, IRyS is a fucking mediocre at best when it comes to singing. Moona, Risu, Kobo, Reine, Gura, Mumei, Iron Mouse, Nyanners, Yugo, Enna, Ike, Sonny and Ren are all better than her and I have only named 3 Vtuber groups. Her live singing is mid and her songs are even worse

>>30839807
You haven't been following the conversation then. I'm arguing that the primary reason for the redesign wasn't just IRyS not liking the way it looks.

>>30839887
>Your explanation, while indeed the simplest, requires Cover prostrating themselves before a very new hire
Like I already posted, I seriously doubt she started complaining about it the moment she joined, and it's taken them a while to finally budge on it
I didn't think they would budge at all, but there's got to be at least some people in Cover with eyes who can see what a terrible model they'd shacked her up with

>>30839892
>nyanners
you fucking... get the fuck out of here. not even as bait or a joke fuck you

>>30839892
We already know, it's why no one talks about her singing here

>>30839892
Anon we don't care about her singing, she's a vtuber

>>30839962
oh so we're in the "it's redjuice's fault" timeloop then. FYI i think you guys are talking past each other in two different time loops because that's clearly not what the (yous) you're getting are talking about

>>30839963
>there's got to be at least some people in Cover with eyes who can see what a terrible model they'd shacked her up with
Really gets me wonder where were those people when the design was finalized then? If they have enough sway in the company to change it after the fact, surely they could've said something at the drafting stage, when it was easier to make changes.

>QUIT SHITTING UP THE THREAD WITH YOUR ALTERNATIVE FACTS

>>30839997
Shut up

>>30839835
>her original model was terrible
I wanted to attach myself to and suck on her exposed thigh.

>>30840059
when she was first announced, i thought that the whole point was there'd be more Project HOPE members and they'd have distinct designs and wouldn't interact much with the rest. some of me still suspects HOPE was supposed to be a bigger separate thing, but that the market for a vsinger in the US was less than they wanted

>>30840059
A company is made up of many people, who are competent, incompetent, and can change their mind
Japanese people also tend to be very passive and conflict-adverse, I can imagine them hiring Redjuice, seeing what he created, instantly realizing that he was the wrong choice but going with it anyway

>>30839997
>We

>>30840151
>the market for a vsinger in the US was less than they wanted
That's some Project COPE right there
the whole thing has been terribly managed

>>30840204
Do not engage with them.

>>30840204
IRyS was never serious about being a singer anyway. She's better as a vtuber

>>30840253
I don't think he's posting in bad faith

>>30840151
Re-staffing a solo debut as the time goes to turn it into a fully-fledged generation? Nah. That doesn't sound anything like Cover. Plus, IRyS was the embodiment of Hope since debut. Doesn't seem like there would've been any other members in this project.

>>30840276
im not sure what im missing here. im not saying she should've been a vsinger. i just mean that it seems like Cover EN had different plans for her than what ended up happening

>>30840273
Is this true? I've always wondered where her priorities lie. Didn't follow her roommate but I know she released music

IRyE facts 101
>She should just stop singing and start doing coomer based ASMR otherwise she will be good for nothing by the time En 3 comes

>>30840253
Don't tell me what to do.

>>30840352
Basically, yeah

>>30840352
Imagine if she did a stream like that one Gura members stream

>>30840352
Nah her current streams are fun she doesn't need to change anything

>>30840355
Well, I just did, didn't I? What are you going to do about it?

Instead of skirting around your intention just man up and say you don't like her and are just shitting up the thread you fucking pussy

>>30840299
i think more of what i was getting at was like... given the explosive popularity of HoloEN and gura's incredible sub count, and then namirin's suepr popular renai circulation cover... that they were hoping to catch lightning in a bottle with her and have her be "the" vsinger. then they could figure out if they wanted to add more project hope characters or start a new single-person-gen thing.

>>30840446
I think the project hope thing wasn't specific to her, rather specific to whatever music producer they'd chosen to work with

>>30840441
who, me? i love her. i even love her singing

>>30840144
based. imagine her telling you to stop but you keep going anyway and then she can no longer focus and then her vocabulary goes out the window even more

airisu hate

>>30840515
is IRyS better at japanese or english? based on her roommate she should be better at english it seems, but listening to her sometimes...

>>30840144
Thighs are the one thing Lack says he won't compromise on, so that makes sense. nta but I while I liked her old model, I understood why she didn't. Hopefully we'll get more of an explanation from IRyS whenever her whatever happens.

>>30840583
I thought she was better at Japanese but Pekora doesn't think so

here's a real man's discussion. what's the best airisu song and why is it enjoy! joy! joyful!?

>>30840623
>>30840583
Maybe she is just terrible at both?

>>30840608
>Hopefully we'll get more of an explanation from IRyS whenever her whatever happens.
Her model is shit
Jesus christ dude are you blind

I don't understand why would even anyone like IRyS's singing?
I want singing I will watch ID girls. Moona and Risu literally make her look like a fucking amateur. Anyone would a same mind would not follow her for her shit singing skills

>>30840583
all i know is she can try to tell me to stop in either language and it wouldnt stop me

>>30840583
She's good at English even if she makes occasional silly mistakes

>>30840646
one step at a time
style actually fits irys, lyrics are about her instead of whatever gay fantasy shit they're usually about

>>30840646
>why is it enjoy! joy! joyful!?
because it sounds like a cabaret song

>>30840583
English. She struggles with Kanji and messes up keijo at times which natives pick up on pinning her as non native

>>30840684
Look outside hololive if you wanna hear good singers

>>30840623
>>30840652
>>30840694
>>30840718
i want to force her to learn a third and fourth language so her vocabulary gets even worse. i want her to have five languages where she can only do the most basic of expression, and she's forced to mishmash them all together to say a full sentence

>>30840779
There's penty of professional quality singers in Hololive, including Irys
Can't say the same for the songs themselves

>>30840729
>irys

>>30840776
Keigo* autocorrect

>>30840764
what goddamn cabaret are you going to where they're singing john scatman
>>30840729
probably my third favorite desu. i really like it, and it's objectively better than caesura of despair. but cod really grew on me and it's kinda iconic to her

>>30840779
I know, i will get called out for this but Enna, Chima, Iron Mouse are way better than any of the Hololive talents for singing (i am not their fan, just trying to be as objective as I can)

>>30840853
you want to come over to my place and hold down my shift key for me?

>>30840833
nah

>>30840907
he'd have to lift it every so often though

>>30840911
yeah

>>30840893
IRyS is only getting worse with her throat condition and lack of practice

i agree that a lot of IRyS songs get debuffed because the lyrics are weak and chuuni. they really go way too high concept with her songs for no reason at all

>>30840893
I agree. No matter how much people hate Aloupeeps, Enna unironically mogs IRyS

>>30840874
>In the United States, striptease are often advertised as cabarets.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabaret

>>30841028
>unironically mogs
how to spot the sea nigger

>>30840893
Enna and IM are pretty mediocre too except on certain songs. Chima and HACHI are good. It's pointless to talk about IRyS' singing when she currently sounds like this: https://youtu.be/Xq9JWIf9zOY?t=5225

>>30841038
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabaret
what... striptease are you even talking about? is there some MV for the song i'm unaware of? it doesn't sound like cabaret music at all

>>30834193
It's honestly sad that she does so little for members, if she apparently appreciates us as much as she says in her post earlier. She's done 4 member streams in the last ~90 days, all of which have just been watchalongs. Gura's done 4 member streams in the last 30 days, which included karaoke and maid roleplay.
I've commented forever on wishing she would even just do member's only posts once in awhile, give updates on what's going on or whatever especially during breaks. I've pretty much given up on expecting anything though, thank god she's at least doing something other than a watchalong next stream.

>>30841073
Why do you keep linking this
Are you the faggot who always complains about her not doing karaokes perfectly

>>30841073
Yeah. Her singing is ass

>>30841073
she was crying you fucking faggot

>>30817671
Looks like I'll furiously masturbate to IRyS for the umpteenth time today.

>>30841128
Because it keeps surprising me with how bad it is

Well this timeloop has become boring. I'll see you guys for the rust stream
Everyone else can neck themselves

>>30841148
Crying because her singing was so bad?

>>30841190
Don't come back.

where the fuck do you niggers come from ?

>>30841175
Karaokes aren't perfect, they're live
She doesn't owe you a perfect performance you neurotic loser

>>30841109
She's never heard or read your comments about wanting more members only posts

>>30841092
My activated neurons are joking

>>30841238
From your momma's house

>>30841243
Retarded take. She's supposed to be a good singer

>nijikeks ITT

>>30841238
Ignore them. Just smile and wave, smile and wave…

>>30841038
>>30841092
for the record, so we can get onto a new timeloop this is cabaret.
https://youtu.be/eWI5tyS_sTg
https://youtu.be/7jgKpRT01ko

>>30841327
She's doing a fucking karaoke
If you want to hear a perfect recording listen to an album

>>30841257
i've not once bothered trying to tell her it's not going to change anything, i just complain to myself

>>30841369
Fine. She sounds bad here too: https://youtu.be/R50hMp0zdY0?t=137

>>30841369
Listen to Emma's karoke or Mousey when she sings in her opera voice. IRyS just got lucky getting a position in Hololive

>>30841257
They complain /here/ because complaining to her won't do anything

>>30841505
She deserved a spot in Council and will do well once she's officially integrated

>>30841505
Listen to IRyS sing acapella. You can take your fucking gaslighting elsewhere and shove it up your arse.
>IRyS can sing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMvk0lUOTL0
Why does she sound so good then?
Again i am not her fan but it's not wrong to admit she is better than IRyS will ever be

>>30841488
? she's a little bit flat on an extremely high note for a largely impromptu performance. i dont know if you just know shit about vocalists but if you watch any of holo's or niji's main talents this is actually on the high end of live performances besides stuff like Holofes

>take a nap
>come back to you fags biting the bait again
Everytime...

>>30841647
Dokomi was not impromptu it was a concert she took almost two weeks off to practice for and recover from

>>30841647
>impromptu
It was a concert planned over a month in advance

>>30841488
Another live performance, not a recording
Fuck off

>>30841642
>singing a song thats lower, and has a smaller range
>is also really pitchy when the interval jumps are large
>has a hard time with the lower notes
man you are retarded. you literally cannot separate timbre from pitch

Hello little nijinigs, please do step in!

>>30841698
They won't stop. I suspect there is a fair amount of samefaggottry going on

>>30841642
Holy shit. Damn. That's a sexy ass song. Why is she not a professional yet?

>>30841746
Singers have to do live performances too you know

Why has this guy been seething about Enna not getting Irys's job for a whole year
Get a life

>>30841794
Because she's a nijikek.

>>30841746
You know even Sana and Fauna sound passable in recordings

>>30841829
Yeah and they're never as good as recordings, especially on songs that push their range

>>30841780
>>30833402
The usual retard

>>30841698
all it saw was a post about IRyS' exposed thigh

>>30841830
Lmao, no. I still like IRyS more but there is no shame in admitting that Enna is a superior singer. Even fucking Mumei and Gura sing better than IRyS

>>30841955
Nobody fucking cares
Whitney Houston is a better singer than Irys
What's that got to do with anything?
Fuck off

>>30841955
she's singing a song with around the same vocal range as closer by chainsmokers. it's a song with a low range that's easy to sing, and it's lower so it fits a huskier timbre.
i dont know if you're arguing in bad faith or not, but you're just objectively ignorant here.

>>30841955
Mumei and Gura do NOT sing better than IRyS. Go fuck yourself.

>>30842043
You don't know shit about music then. Even fucking Kobo sounds better than IRyS. No one cares about technique of her singing is bad

>>30842043
More range isn't a good thing when your high notes sound like IRyS's. She should stick to the range BERSERKER is at, that's where she sounds good

>>30842150
No one cares about you, or Enna

>>30842043
It's bad faith. Every time this Enna spammer links shit, it's always terrible. Only logical conclusion, is that it's just a troll who's trying to troll both sides.

>>30842043
>>30842069
IRyS is my 3rd Oshi after Sora and Azki, and none of them are better singers than Gura. Forget Enna or Iron Mouse. Even Kobo sounds more soleful and better than IRyS

>>30842150
>>30842178
>you don't know shit about music then
>no one cares if the music technique is bad
stick to one script, retard.

>>30842244
>soleful
lmao

>>30842244
i personally like gura but she is probably the worst singer being mentioned in the thread from a musical talent level.
i don't know how to get this through to you fags. voice control and having a nice timbre are two separate things. gura's tibre matches really nicely to her personality and preferred music style, but she's just a decent singer who plays to her strengths.

>>30842339
Gura has a lot of musicial talent, her voice is great
Maybe you're talking about technical singing ability

>>30842339
Pitch control is wasted if the voice has no depth or resonance and the singer doesn't do anything interesting with it

Where do these backseat vocal coaches come from
Is it "idol culture"? Like the music is so shit all you can do is numberfag which how technically good their singing is?

>>30842401
to some degree it's splitting hairs, but i'm mostly trying to get across how good IRyS is technique wise.
im not retarded enough to think having an aesthetic timbre isn't part of talent. i'm also not retarded enough to ignore that it's probably more important for branding. IRyS is a really impressive singer, but it's also clear she has not been branded nearly as well as Gura. everyone knows Gura sings sad girl songs and lounge music and she ends up on a million gurasingsstudyplaylists as a result. that's legit. that does not take away from her. but no, she is not a technically stronger singer than IRyS, and if IRyS was handled better she could be... well i don't think anyone's gonna be bigger than gura in HoloEN ever. but you get what i'm saying

It's all irrelevant discussion when she's effectively lost her ability to sing more than once month

>>30842479
...resonance? you think that gura has more "resonance" than IRyS? what the fuck is "depth" in this context? just say soul you faggot. i know that's what you mean. you're making up for not knowing anything about singing by trying to shove in ambiguous words

>>30842479
>>30842592
Do you have a musical background?

>>30842592
What's technically impressive about IRyS exactly? Her range isn't that big, she doesn't hold notes for long, doesn't belt out with a lot of power

>>30842540
>Where do these backseat vocal coaches come from
Vsinger general.

>>30842713
well, i studied piano for 12 years and both my brothers are vocalists so kind of. all my stuff on vocals is osmotic knowledge though. though i do know how to keep pitch well because i studied sight singing to improve my sight reading and internal audiation skills