/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>31695659
I wonder rather have any karaoke every month than 1 every 8 months. In the time since the last karaoke, she's sang in like...6 cover songs. She's willing to do that but not any karaokes.

Deadweight fuck off and kill yourself

>>31695688
Then mayeb ENs should do more than 1 karaoke per month on average. Even Reine and Astel have sang more English songs than ENs recently

>>31695585
I meant but overall I'm not expecting Kronii to be an amazing singer. Choco, Noel, and a bunch of other Holos have had concerts. Whether or not Kronii wants to put serious effort towards singing is up to her, so far the fact that she only had the one lessons suggests to me that she doesn't. I would like her to sing more and do karaoke more than every half year though. In the end, a Holo only has to be so good at singing, people will show up for their concerts and songs because they love them anyways. Only a few Holos are standout singers objectively.

>>31695659
I disagree. A Kronii karaoke wouldn't be mediocre or forgettable because it's Kronii who is singing. And having one a month would make her better at singing, your voice is a very "use it or lose it" type of thing.

SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEXXXXXX!!!

>>31695854
IIRC becoming a better singer was one of her goals she listed in her debut stream.

TimeRyS Love!
She'll sing Simple and Clean or One Last Kiss I BELIEVE

She literally said that she wants to do her best and stop stressing about the future and enjoy the present, can't you fags have a little faith in her for once ?

Kroina Love!!!

I love Kronii...
Karaoke soon...

This one inspired by a comment on the post.

>>31695972
Yes, and pretty much every Holo has stated they'd like to become better at Japanese.

You can want to become better at something but you won't unless you do the reps. Kronii went to one voice lesson in a year.

>>31695985
TimeRyS love!
I kind of want Kronii to sing at least one new song IRyS sang before so that we could potentially get one of those TimeRyS duet mashups... and One Last Kiss would be awesome for that...

>>31695985
>>31696149
Sorry TimeRySfags, but Kronii would butcher One Last Kiss.

Bae HATES Kronii's singing

>>31696052
Stop posting this image.

>>31696135
>mafia
>astrogirl orchestral cover
>daydream anniversary
you can fucking do those reps by yourself too
also she said she was going to take lesson during her anniversary stream

>>31696149
Oh I didn't attach an image.
Again, TimeRyS love!

KRONII IS THE CUTEST I LOVE HER SO FUCKING MUCH

>>31696223
No, I will not, and you didn't reply the last 2 threads, you're getting sloppy

>>31696209
>Chink rat trying to mix Homofags and Holos again
Good I hope Kronii stays far away from this loud zoomer.

>>31696209
This was probably in production before they had a heart to heart and Bae stopped... idolizing Kronii?

>>31696209
almost like Kronii and the rest of Council have all been busy with their own stuff...

>>31696256
Apparently you don't have better things to do like I do. Now stop posting this image as well.

>>31696339
Sounds like cope

>>31696135
Because she didn't want to go to anymore lessons while she lived with her family. I don't know why though. I think it might have been because the instructor was really negative about her and Kronii got scared to go back to that person and now she wants to look for a new instructor.

>>31696225
Just singing songs will make you a little better but its no substitute for actual vocal exercises.

>>31696315
oh shit almost like they were all been busy while schizos were calling them lazy whore

>>31696209
and Mumei's. I can't believe this rrat is already trying to leave Council...

>>31696209
Bae can't do anything without shoving in the homos, and then you all call me sad and mean when I hate her.

>>31696376
it's still some progress and work she has done.

Kronii actually has zero potential.

>>31696368
The instructor wasn't even that negative, but Kronii is and doomered herself in her head. She's still an amateur singer, no vocal coach is gonna be 100% sunshine and rainbows.

>>31696453
>potential

>>31696272
>>31696445
take your (You)s and stop samefagging homoschizo

>>31696445
I don't, I hate how she tries to shove Homos into everything.

>>31696453
stfu boros, when you arrive i'll rape you 20 time per days

>>31696376
I'm not an irystocrat but I remember them saying that Irys is self-taught, what would you call her then

>>31696514
I think Bae should shove the homos into my holes

>>31696537
isn't being self taught why her throat is fucking dying?

>>31696599
>shit i've made up in my mind.

>>31696599
Do what Kronii says and watch streams

>>31696445
>>31696514
Nowa alone is more entertaining than the rest of HoloslutsEN combined.

>>31696674
literal who i couldn't give less of a shit about.

>>31696599
Whether or not that's true, Kronii still clearly takes care of her voice. Wish she'd eat and sleep better though...

>>31685395
>gun-toting libertarian
>linux user
>k-pop loving white weeaboo
>femboy lover
If you were 10 years younger right now you would be a crossdressing femboy posting bussy pics on Twitter with your programming socks onnot like you still can't

>>31696674
They hated him because he told the truth

>>31696674
Cool go watch him then, go to his thread, and stop begging for fucking collabs with the girls.

>>31696599
her throat is dying because of my cock actually

>>31696674
>not Kronii
must be boring as shit

Watched end of anniversary stream after heading rrat. Is kronii looking like she's gonna graduate soon?

>>31696831

>>31696831
Yes, she's graduating to build her family with me.

>>31696750
stop grooming Yellow...

>>31696831
No.

>>31696771
Why would I want him or any of Tempus to collab with some of the laziest and most boring streamers? Maybe Bae needs to fuck off and stop leeching?

>>31696901
transitioning can save him...her...

>>31696904
I mean she was talking about moving on and remembering and shit and hey we shared good times together. I'm not even saying anythings definite but it really does seem like hinting at farewell. It reminds me of shit my ex said actually

>>31696831
If she graduates, we have a suicide pact that activates.

>>31696831
Hopefully she doesn’t deserve to be here and she knows it

>>31696936
>>/MANS/

Stop biting bait

Are you guys going to archive the karaoke? I might miss it...

>>31697010
No, that's Bae

>31696967
Then that's just you projecting, nerd.

>>31697030
Tell the anti-bae/homo schizo to fuck off back to global first.

>>31696967
take your meds retard.

>Hitting the gym 3-4 times each week
>Recording almost daily
>Still striving for 5 streams a week minimum
>Soon, vocal lessons
>Subsisting off of cheap delivery food
>Just hit 1 year
Burnout and/or gradual degeneration is coming for your oshi!

>>31697035
I'm not baiting I'm just looking for what you guys think. I like kronii and wouldn't want her to graduate. And she also has been seeming happier lately so it feels weird.

>>31696106
It's a long shot I know

I come home and see Baeschizo acting up again...

>31697089
Fuck off nigger

holy shit you're all fucking dead bent on being total niggers.

>>31697128
Tempus ruined Hololive.

>31697089
you got your answer, NO, that's it.

>>31697116
how does it feel to be a cuck?

>>31697205

>>31697116
I did 1 post, the homo beggar is already spamming offtopic bullshit.

>>31697260

>>31697081
Nha i know she'll do great.

>>31695997
Kronii is a compulsive liar. Stop believing everything "she" says.

so what none of you are worried at all about the "if we ever move on" talk? not even a sliver?

so what none of you are worried about Kronii's fat lewd tits? not even a sliver?

>>31697400
make me, nigger.

>>31697450
I'm very worried that she doesn't put them in my mouth often enough

>31697416
I'm not parasocial and my kamioshi is dead

>>31697416
I doubt Kronii will last 2 more years. I want to be wrong.

>>31697416
no

>>31697416
if you understand what she was getting at with that talk, then no there's no reason to be worried

Karaoke!
https://youtu.be/uweyV92_owo

>>31697416
Why would I be? She doesn't have any plans to leave anytime soon, she clearly feels like becoming Kronii saved her from the shitty and directionless life she had before.

>>31697497
so you think it was just her speaking a little frankly about burnout? it does seem like she does a bunch. anyway, i hope your oshi gets happier and happier. i really mean it. kronii seems like a nice girl and like she's trying.

>>31697266
I don't want Stars to collab with the girls retard. Keep shitting on Stars though just because of Bae and I'll keep shitting on the Holo girls.

No worries from me. It's just the way she talks.

>>31697553
well thats good. i'm happy. she seems like a sweet person and even though i'm an IRyStocrat it's uplifting to me to see a holomem who seems to be really improving their life.

>>31697572
>so you think it was just her speaking a little frankly about burnout?
What does burnout have to do with anything that she said?

>>31695997
Instead of stressing about the future she only stresses about the present, including any minute interaction she makes with anyone

>>31697572
I think Kronii is a damaged individual who thinks about how everything has an ending so she tries not to get too attached to anything because "it will die/end eventually" anyways.

>>31697665
I know that's you.

>>31697633
Fuck off you trolling nigger

>>31697712
Who?

>only if we have approved instrumentals :)
perms fucking hate who gives a fuck it's unarchived if it's really a problem turn off monetization.

>>31697652
yeah youre right i was being retarded and projecting. idk. anyway, regards

>>31697708
you should stop thinking.

>>31697633
>>31697760
You're not fooling anyone. Nothing you type is in good faith. You're implying Kronii will graduate and then say you're an IRyStocrat trying to falseflag. Fucking kill yourself you piece of subhuman shit.

>>31697573
Go back to where you are from.

>>31697819
Go back to Global first, or how about being an anti-Bae schizo in her thread?

>>31697573
This isn't even your thread. Fuck off you faggot

>>31697654
true she was very stressed with ina, with the urban dictionary collab or the kirby collab, or laughing her ass of and make other loose it in jackbox etc etc etc... retard.

>>31697801
He's right though, Kronii always tries to see the bad in things. Doesn't mean she's going to graduate though, just means that she's a realist.

>>31697573
So we both agree that stars and the girls shouldn't collab and that Bae is shit? Good. Now fuck off.

>>31698035
How about you fuck off instead?

>>31697708
>>31697974
But she literally gets easily attached. Either way, the discussion this stemmed from is stupid. The ending is just something she lightly touched upon and wasn't even the main focus of what she was saying to us kronies.

>>31697962
>Halted the collab and momentarily broke down trying to apologize to Gura for something she didn't even care about like 30 minutes after it happened because the thought had been dwelling and festering in her mind for that entire time since
Yeah

>>31697974
and i believe that its starting to slowly change.
the whole talk about being part of a community and feeling accepted flew over a lot of peoples head it seems.

>>31697924
This isn't the thread for Bae antis either.

Kronies deserve a fucking bullet to the head

>>31697416
You know this shit's gonna end someday

>>31698159
>le sad gook

>>31698113
>the thought had been dwelling and festering in her mind for that entire time since
you're the worse retards ITT and i should stop giving you (you)s have a last one , nigger.

>>31698082
Why? I'm here only for Kronii. Why does it matter if I don't love Bae or the homos?

>>31698132
The both of you need to kill yourselves

>>31698201
Your words are as worthless as your schooling, you ESL slime.

31698256
you're still a nigger.

>>31698220
Hating Bae isn't being here only for Kronii retard.

>>31698131
I'm just surprised she's really that attached to her fanbase. Fauna and Mumei are nowhere close to her, based on their anniversary streams.

>>31698035
Based

>We unironically saved her

Kronies, your self-improvement reps...please...

>>31698424
Fuck off cuck

>>31698424
>Hakos whore Baelz

>>31698324
Kronii once said parasocial goes both ways. Although it really shouldn't based on the definition of the word.

>>31698493
I can't believe there are only 2 decent Council members left

>>31698575
Yeah Mumei and Fauna

>>31698575
yeah Kronii and Kronii

>>31698575
+ IRyS

>>31698486
Does Kronii Gosling for us?

>>31698324
That's cause Fauna and Mumei failed their opsec and thus nobody could actually develop a parasocial relationship with them without being 100% deluded.

>>31695997
Don't listen to these chuubas, Anon. You're just going to hurt yourself.
Learn from our mistakes.

>>31698622
UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH WHY DOES IRYSOSEX HAVE SO LITTLE PORN I NEED MORE AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>31698486
i think it does for a lot of Holos, top of my head iirc it's the case for Polka Ollie and Kiara.

>>31698625
well she goslinged for the Mumei cosplayer

>>31698652
No thanks

>>31698681
>Ollie
Shut up....

>>31698681
So all the headcases then

Would Kronii know Lovefool or Kiss Me?

>>31698625
Selkie...

https://twitter.com/ZedGawr/status/1563023681244512257

Cute

>>31698838
Polka seems pretty normal

>>31698743
that's not even in her top 10 most parasocial moments, that's just normal complimenting a fan on their cosplay

>>31698838
you can every Holos in 'headcases"

>>31698948
KROFAU IS REAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL

>>31698918
https://twitter.com/ourokronii/status/1558707511015837696

>>31698324
Mumei is straight-up scared of her fans.

>>31698948
spine completely fucked
all me

>>31699024
It's funny because you can see how her demeanor changed when she found out Selkie was a fan and she realized she fucked up.

>>31699003
anon... its going to be a full council piece eventually...

>>31698956
Yeah, watch her member content. She's super menhera.

>>31699124
b-but fauna is holding onto kronii..

>>31699137
Not so much anymore, I've heard

>>31699190
Yeah, she doesn't show it as much anymore.

I have this urge to fap to Rushia...

>>31699334
https://twitter.com/ThiccWithaQ/status/1562979873345667075

>>31699065
Not because it was a fan. She expected anyone she played with to be her fans trying to queue into her. She found out it was a male behind the avatar and felt cheated.

>>31699388
This was actually the reason why...

>>31699483
Cuck

>>31699415
Nah it's clear from her reaction that she thought was Selkie was just some random stranger being spontaneously friendly with her. If she thought it was a fan, she wouldn't have been so impressed that they were trying to get her attention.

>>31699415
...I will become a girl so that Kronii will love me...

>>31699500

>>31699529
wrong green woman

>>31699529
>sapling

>>31699187
and what if Kronii is holding onto Sana? Or Bae? Or even the other one?? don't count your chickens before they hatch...

Would Kronii know ANY of the songs Fauna has sang so far?

>>31699388
this artist would be powerful if she learned to draw faces

>>31699666
They're all popular so there's a good chance she does

Fauna is so bad...it's adorable.

>>31699898
Yeah she's having fun

>>31699898
There is a certain endearing quality for performances like this; I’ve come to enjoy Noel’s version of Shaka Beach over the original personally.

>>31699898

>>31699898
>Easily the worst singer in Council, if not all of EN
>Has more karaokes under her belt than Kronii
;)

>>31699965
Yeah, it's exactly like watching Noel's karaoke it's adorable.

>>31699986
Thanks for the reminder.

>>31699986
But I thought that just singing karaoke a lot makes you a good singer...

NEW JOJI, FELLOW KRONIES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Sd_mvOotaA

All these WHORES watching that green bitch

>>31699995
But Noel has the tone deaf excuse

>>31700027
kek

>>31700057
Shut up Gabe you were watching IRyS

>>31700056
>Biggest audiophile in Holopro
>Is tonedeaf
How does this happen?

>>31700132
Savant syndrome works like that sometimes.

This is still the best KING cover of all time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T7Ql4D1UnQ

>>31700132
>>31700184
Kanata and Noel both have the same degenerative hearing loss condition. One is a great singer and the other is an ASMR and sound setup prodigy.

>>31700111
Gabe is a day 1 sapling.

I know it's a silly thing to worry about but will Kronii's karaoke this week even pull in a lot of viewers? These past few months, it feels like the larger fanbase is disinterested in Kronii and has moved on. For example, Kronii's Minecraft liveviews are roughly equal to Fauna's Minecraft liveviews if not slightly lower. Kronii's core fanbase is still really large but it doesn't seem like she's pulling in new viewers or anything.

>>31700453
Why does that matter?

>>31700453
Kronii doesn't give a fuck about such things and neither should you.

>>31700453
>>/#/

>>31700453
her cover completely mogged Mumei's, people will want to hear her sing

this guy is really beating the "concern trolling" post format into the ground tonight, huh

>>31700475
I don't know. Although it's nice to have less kronies to compete with for her attention, seeing Kronii become "less popular" and people not being interested in her makes me go menhera. I don't want to share her but also she's great and she deserves the world.

>>31700453
Don't care and neither does she.

>>31700617
He probably just got off a ban and is feeling frisky.

>>31700705

>>31700617
Oh the graduation thing wasn't me. I'm a kronie. Not that this is proof.

>>31700453
As a numberfag myself She is getting hit by ccid, her VODs are doing better than ever, Mafia was a success, her videos have more than 100% likes than concurrent viewers, she is doing the same or better than usual.

tldr: her ccv numbers being lower are on youtube, she is still growing.

>>31700765
>ccid
what's that

>>31700762
Well do you selfishly want Kronii all to yourself or do you want to share Kronii's greatness with the world?

>>31700705

>>31700865
>are you a kronie or are you a cuck

>>31700765
The ccv thing is still fucked? I thought they fixed it early in the year?

WAHHHHH I MISS FAUNA

>>31700865

>>31700897
Well I guess it's a no-brainer that everyone here wants to have Kronii all to themselves. I do too. But I also want everyone else to see what I see and recognize Kronii's greatness, you know? I love her.

>>31700847
I meant to say CCVID, concurrent viewer identity, youtube lowers the live view count based on stuff like where people are from, if they have adblocker, if they are on muted or the main tab etc.

>>31700918
It was never completely fixed just went back to 2021levels, but Kronii is getting hit harder than usual by it lately.

>>31700918
I mean it appears a lot of people still got the weird bug where when they put in their free green supa for hitting the 1 year mark as members, it displays on their end as hitting 7 months before displaying as having been members for 12 months in chat.

YT has never not been borked in some capacity.

/∞/ronies would be happier if she were a 2view.

>>31701163
No i wouldn't

>>31701082
Why the discrepancy? Shouldn't all hololive members get hit by it roughly the same? And how would you know whether Kronii is hit particularly hard by it?

Guys, if you're recommending songs to Kronii, make sure it's on Karafun, first.

>>31701316
sounds like he's extrapolating the real number from the number of likes on the VOD

>>31701331
>"Guysh, if you're wecommending shongs to Kwonii make shure it'sh on Karafun fiwst!"
That's you. That's what you sound like.

>>31701331
Yeah I'm honestly not surprised most people in the replies didn't bother fucking reading, and I can imagine those same people will complain when she doesn't sing any JP songs on Sat because they didn't give her suggestions she could feasibly work off of.

Thank god Lost Kitten isn't on there because otherwise the replies would be a lot worse than they presently are.

>>31701394
damn, i'm sure his feelings are hurts

>>31701444
>Lost Kitten
why are people obsess with this song it's fucking shit.

>>31701394
He is right.

>>31701573
Because of the fucking Ame MV of the song hardcore Goslings can't shut up about, that's literally the only reason.

>>31701316
Well, it's better to ask for the details on /#/

>>31701608
picking this shit when one last kiss exist, shame.

I wonder if the tweet means that the contractors are done working on her place. She hasn't talked about that for a while now. Maybe she'll do VR soon...

>>31702631
>Kronii
>Following through on things she claims to want to do
See you at the switch sports tournament

>>31702758
>what is asmr

>bitching and moaning, the general.

She should sing Niggas in Paris.

>>31702983
>>31702993
Why do you do this? What's the deal here?

>>31703047
It's funny

>>31703047
Just to fuck with you :)

>>31703063
>>31703084
Kronies are mean

>>31703121
Don't you feel more pride and accomplishment when you do get to post them all?

Hi Kronies!

why do the ice cream poster are in civil war?
also why there are multiple icecream posters???

>>31700043
D-Drakeposter?

>>31703504
It would be a war if I insulted the ice cream posters. I just like to ruin the order because it's funny.

Icecreamposter and icecreaminterrupter should hatefuck

>>31703574
yeah, me

Night Kronies...

>>31703790
Good Night~

>>31703790
good night Yellow. get at least 8 hours, you old queen.

She’s in free chat

>>31704691
who cares?

>>31704691
Isn't it past your bed time, Guy?

I hate Kronii's hair vents

>>31705684
who doesn't

...

>>31705943
dumb sapling bitch

I’m still not over about the fact that she talked about graduation
Why even do that on your one year anniversary holy shit

>saplings

>>31706150
Saplironie, we have double the mommy issues

I lied to my parents for 2 years. I just kept digging this fucking hole and didn't notice how deep I got. I will kill myself tonight because there's no way I can tell them the truth now.

>>31706278
dont do it kronie...

>>31705983
she said the EXACT same thing multiple times in member's streams greynigger.
that's just the way she is, she's a pessimist

>>31705851
Kronii is so cute and autistic it's ridiculous

>>31706272
I get fauna but why does Kronii attract so many fans with mommy issues?

>>31706366
all these global dramaniggers salivating over the faint hint of someone alluding to the possibility of graduating in a hypothetical future
they're drooling so much they can barely move their tongue to gossip

>>31706278
Don’t forget to SC Kronii about it

>>31706278
lied about what?

>>31706445
so im the guy who posted the first question in this thread of it. i feel bad now because once you guys explained it i got it. i was genuinely worried because i like kronii. but it makes sense that she just doomposts a lot. so, it made me feel better to hear that. i only membered her recently so i didn't know.

>>31700765
If you were a numberfag you’d know that the reason why Kronii has declined is simply because she doesn’t stream as much as she used to, and this month in particular she has very low streaming hours compared to the other council girls.

>>31706660
It's because she changed her streaming schedule, ever since she stopped streaming at 8 PDT her viewership started dropping.

>mfw there are femronies

>>31707365
i hate women

>>31706513
It's too embarrassing to even write. It's so retarded. I'm retarded and a disappointment.

>>31707468
I'm sure you'll get out of the hole anon. Is it something really critical or just embarrassing? If you lied about a wife for two years or something it sucks but it won't hurt anyone.

>>31707365
>Female fans for Kronii
LOL

>>31708191
well they exist but they're just fans of the butch kronii that only appears in fanart

>>31708510
still baffled to this day how kronii paizuri was trending for more than a month and now she's just the twitter lesbian idol

>>31708561
she's the only girl with hair of medium length or shorter and the only girl with a natural-sounding non-squeaky voice, she was made into the mannish lesbian by default

>>31708639
>made into the mannish lesbian by default
crime punishable by gas chambers

>>31708691
personally i'm a big fan of lesbians getting corrected by dick

>>31708691
sometimes i imagine myself as a girl getting raped by lesbian Kronii

>>31708733
stop self inserting as the girl, faggot

>>31708758
I like that too but you can't bring it up without people mentioning you know what

So, I'm the last heteroronie...

we need one of
>pic
but with gay shit

>>31708854
But self inserting as the girl makes ntr so much more enjoyable. I don't know why people make themselves miserable by inserting as the designated protagonist.

>>31708854
let me correct that, i'm a fan of correcting lesbians with my dick. better?

>>31708758
Sometimes when it's quiet I sit on the shower floor (I have a pretty big shower) and pretend I'm a girl who has been raped by Kronii (I'm a guy IRL).
I sit and hold my head in my hands, rocking it back and forth and sobbing quietly, then I quickly splash some water over my face and wipe the imaginary mascara off my eyes until it runs down my cheeks. At this point, I'm usually fairly distraught.
Next, I open my mouth and wash the imaginary semen out. I make sure I gag and splutter, sometimes I even put my fingers down my throat to make sure it's all gone. The final stage is the most emotionally draining part of the entire ordeal.
I stand up, put my ass under the shower flow, then lean forward and begin to wash the rapist's imaginary cum out of my asshole and "vagina" (I just pretend). I do this for quite a while, to make sure it's all gone.
Then I collapse on the floor again and just break down hysterically. No girl should ever go through what I just did, all men (and lesbians) are animals.

>>31708935
this thread will never be straight

>>31709101
will the thread ever heal to the debut days

>>31709238
>implying
takeshis were all lesbians with penis envy desu

>>31709470
i hate you

>>31708958
Don't people usually self insert as the guy doing the cucking?...

doko...

>>31709813
If that was the case, I feel like there wouldn't be such a visceral dislike of ntr.

>>31710317
NTR is degenerate desu

I received a PM from Kronii. She said that she wants kronies to dress in girl clothes and make out with each other then send it to me- I mean send it to her super secret account. She says it's of vital importance

>>31709813
Doesn't matter who I self insert as, I feel bad for the guy anyways.

>NTR
anons, I just wanted to dick a lesbian...

>>31711402
lesbians dont like dick

>>31711514
and?