/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>31745673
the nature of the gosling prevents them from ever moving on from their object of affection, no matter what the chuuba does, they will remain.
see ame

>>31745673
Of course it is. It always has. History is an amalgamation of the same mistakes we've been making throughout time, and we'll keep making them, too.

If it kills vshojo, then it will be worth it.

>>31745673
I don't get it

>>31745673
I got my popcorn ready

History is much like an endless waltz. The three beats of War, Peace and Revolution continue on forever

>EOPs shocked that a vtuber can like and appreciate their fans

>>31745745
FPBP

Does she really stream reactions to youtube videos now? I'm awaiting the DMCAs

Who would win in a fight, Uto or Nazuna?

At this point the fancucks will support literally anything she wants to do, even sucking dicks on stream, as long she says she still loves them. Check out their general, it's honestly fascinating how broken they are.

>drops to 5k CCV average
Oh no no no. Japanese expansion doesn't look to be doing too good. I have a feeling the VShojo brand is getting a bit toxic for the Japanese audience.

How exactly? She literally joined the 'whore' company. Or are you going to tell be vshoujo fans will riot if they find out their favorite sluts are in fact sluts?

>>31745673
>Repeat
Its too late, all eggs are ded. She will never have a child same with Ookami Mio

Here's an example of why she'll never change >>31745905

>>31745673
It's so astonishing that not a single person criticized her for creating rabid and obsessed fans. She manipulates lonely people as a fucking job, and somehow nobody thinks she's responsible for it.

https://twitter.com/ThiccWithaQ/status/1562979873345667075

>>31745895
I recognize that reference

>>31746534
Because people misunderstand what parasocial means and think it only applies once fans become mad about something, ironically they WANT fans to be even more parasocial by being unquestioningly loyal even if she were getting dicked on stream, because apparently 100% of mentally ill and lonely people are just supposed to know better

>>31747000
that's not what parasocial means either
a parasocial relationship is when someone treats a fictional character (who is incapable of knowing they exist) like a real person
the anime girl on your screen has a real person behind them who does care about their fans as a community even if they cannot conceive of them all as individuals. the relationship here is two-way, even though it is inherently unequal

>>31745673
QRD?

>>31745673
Hololive was already the second time she had a catastrophic falling out with a group if content creators after a menhera breakdown, it would be no surprise for it to happen a third time.

>>31748208
It'll be a callback the her time in hololive.
>3 is the magic number

>>31745673
You can't blame a wolf for being a wolf.

>>31746791
I find it fucking hilarious and pathetic this stupid nigger did this to rile up HoloJP fans as if they give a fuck.

People to deep in the parasocial hole are beyond saving.

>>31745673
But Mafu is her everything. Why is she contradicting herself?

>>31745673
I looked at her general and it might be the most schizo place on /vt/. Retards chastising themselves for something like they actually matter and that talking to themselves that they'll never do it again? Its really weird. Im guessing she got plowed recently and they are mad that it botthered them

>>31746791
Wait were her antis jealous roasties all along? That's fucking hilarious

>>31746534
People somehow expect you to not get attached to streamers that do parasocial pandering. There was an indie VTuber who had a meltdown because FIVE of her followers abandoned her after she announced she had a boyfriend (while she was doing GFE) and all the retards on Twitter supported her
>>31746791
I preferred to not say anything, but I find it very disgusting how he (quite literally) gets off to this by portraying Rushia when she was fired due to going out of her way to demonstrate she did NOT have a boyfriend

>>31746534
Her fans never actually did anything though. It was all Nijifags falseflagging because they hate Hololive and idol style vtubing.

>>31745673
does this shit still sell after... you know?

>>31746791
>some retarded newfags still peddling the meiro ntr rrat
lmao this makes me seethe more than anything else
so strange how en communities bend over backwards for any slightly suggestive asmr, while also thinking anything beyond that has to be livestream cuckolding

>>31745745
>see ame
Ame has made it her mission almost from day one to filter everyone who isn't a complete homosexual faggot out of her viewerbase. I don't think the same can be said about Russia

>>31745673
whens the porn collab with melody?

>>31745673
Shes mastered her craft.

>>31752028
When mafumafu is next free.

>>31751954
vtubers are for GFE, if you don't understand that you don't belong here

>>31752362
now THIS is a newfag

>>31745673
In order for it to not repeat, she would've had to learn, but since she joined a corpo again, then unfortunately she hasn't

>>31752425
>m-muh 2 view sluttubers don't do gfe that means you're wrong
retard.

>>31752362
ok virgin

>>31752609
you couldn't make it more obvious that you found this hobby after 2020 unless you flat out admitted it

>>31752670
neck yourself roastoid

>>31745673
DYRBI

>>31752813
Kizuna AI is the only successful pre 2020 vtuber of note and she did GFE baiting and went idol route so what the fuck are you talking about

>>31752557
She did learn something: that she should keep the bf stuff on another discord account

>>31752822
not even female, just a little bit less of a loser than you are lmao

>>31745673
GFE is unhealthy for all parties involved. Also profitable, but still unhealthy. Such is the nature of toxic online relationships.

aaaarg I must protect her...
I must provide to he...

>>31745673
Bro cant you tell she just LOVE her fans so much? Whats the problem here?

>>31752609
Anon your new is showing

>>31747699
>Wrong
The term parasocial relationship refers to a relationship that a person imagines having with another person whom they do not actually know, such as a celebrity or a fictional character.

>>31752362
I am going to assume you are mixing GFE and fanservice. Pretty much all chuubas do fanservice, some do it more often, others not so much. But GFE only happens when they try to pretend they are in love with the audience, getting turned on by the viewers. Saying "I love my fans/job" is something that any content creator can say. But flirt with the audience, get "turned on" by the viewers, pretend to be in romantic relationship with the fans is something completely different.

>>31757986
>>31752967

It seems more like she's thankful and appreciative of the EOPs have still stuck around. That's a lot more than what some chuubas do.
Also it makes me want to donate more money and fall down the parasocial hole with her

Kson should really intervene and tard wrangle her away from pandering to overseas fans. She's sort of wasting her time thinking she's going make bank out of these sad lonely men when the reality is most of them cheapskates lol.

>>31745673
MII CHAN I AM ON THE WAY HOME LET US PLAY APEX TOGETHER LATER

>>31759917
DO IT

>>31760088
I'm trying, but its hard to be parasocial for her when she streams at PST unfriendly times
If only there was a way to give her money when shes not streaming

>>31759973
going the towa route. Keep the EN saviourfags until enough new JPs come in that don't know her past and then abondon EN.

>>31745673
It happened once, so its over. Its gonna happen again, and only retards believe otherwise.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me a third time, I am officially a cuck.

>>31745673
niggas dont know better so they make the same choices in similar scenarios

>>31745673
Vshojo is a democratic collective rather than a full fledge company, members will probably vote on it if you ever break your contract.

>>31746791
The replies to that are pretty disgusting, I'm not going to lie. I feel like NTRfags are just fundamentally evil, rotten people who want to PROVE that everyone else is as rotten as they are so they will abuse and hurt whoever they want until they're as broken as they are.

>>31745781
>Boyfriend drama
>Killing Vshojo
rumao

>>31746329
The fuck you mean her egg are dead this isn't a 40 something year old woman.

>Loli pops

Why is Vshojo like this?

>>31745673
imagine if she still has mafumafu in her discord

>>31766394
Talent freedom i guess.

>>31745673
The avatar changed, but not the whore behind it. Is it really that surprising?

>>31745673
Yeah people that fall for cheap GFE shit are dumb as bricks.
They will get cucked again, get angry and fall in love with the next parasocial GFE pandering slut that will squeeze their wallets dry and have a boyfriend yab live on stream.
That's the cycle of life of the unicorns.

>>31745673
this is cute

>>31746791
Isn't this a little cruel? I mean yeah people dunked on Rushia when the drama happened but posting an fanart like this after she already moved on is just overkill, also "hehe take that parasocials" what parasocials? She already got fired they either left feeling victorious or still have faith in her to ignore it

>>31746791
What is this artist's problem?

>>31777471
Kill yourself page 10 schizo.

>>31752362
This is true. Vtubers who don't do it are kind of a wash these days.

>>31745673
Her fanbase is called lolipops now?

>>31764934
>I feel like NTRfags are just fundamentally evil, rotten people who want to PROVE that everyone else is as rotten as they are
its mental illness, a persecution complex

>>31778221
>creates a fanbase of fucking weirdos
from the artist that draws NTR porn not realizing the irony, wow

>>31778221
NTRfaggots, specifically blacked ones are just paper tigers. Internally they have so much baggage that it fucking crushes them inside to see people being happy.

>>31745673
>You will watch her collab with Connor + The Ironlung
>You will watch a zoomer and a Medicated Latina fight in front of her
>You will watch them do their shtick of "Would they wont they"
>You will watch her try to converse with those two
And you will cringe as they try to patronize her
>They returns to their bread and Butter pseudo Flirting
>You will slowly realized that you didnt sign up for a cucking
>You will enjoy your TWE, Third Wheel Exprience
>Before the Elk joins in and ask questions

>>31745673
This is just damage control after she broke her promise to never collab with men
She already upset some longtime fans by doing that after promising not to just a few months ago during a Mikeneko twitcast

>>31782115
Stfu,
You will make all the Keychains and Holobronies less unhinged if that ever happen and i for one want Connor to remain a boogeyman in this board and Nazuna's Gachis

>>31782115
If only the Holofags knows

>>31745895
Ah...

>>31752967
Lonliest /vt/ user

>>31746534
They're responsible for their own actions. She provides a service and they choose to pay her, that's how the economy works. What are you, a commie?

>>31777471
Shadman but can actually draw

>>31778677
Anyone who makes skintone edits for dudes in porn is a closet faggot obsessed with men's cocks and their colors.

Why does she keep getting away with it?
How are there people, no, gachikoi nonetheless, that’ll still support her after the guy she was fucking literally kicked her out?
I don’t get it.

>>31784332
Denial, simple as that. They don't believe she was fucking the guy or even living with him.

>>31745673
cuck me once, cuck me twice

>>31752967
>idol=GFE
retard and stop larping as oldfag you obviously EOP newfag

Hey guys, I'm a male indie. My plan is to collab with as many females as possible not so I can fuck them, but so that I can make unicorns seethe. Who are the best female 2views I can try to cozy up to in order to start? I realize I may only piss off /asp/ and /wvt/ say first, but my plan is to eventually cuck small corpo fans. Thanks in advance!

>>31783281
What's a lon?

>>31787718
An atom or molecule with a net electrical charge.

>>31783364
Children, drug addicts, autists, schizophrenics, the mentally ill and the lonely obviously always have 100% uncompromised agency so you can't ever criticize someone from a moral standpoint for massively taking advantage of them, I guess

>>31788193
Only legality matters, really. Morals are subjective and don't do anything until they actually result in laws or norms.

>>31786365
https://youtu.be/uvf_tphnQPY
https://youtu.be/beZpPpXWN6I

>>31745673
History in this place is literally just a 3-4 months long loop. I expect the "im coming home na chan" twit any time now.

>>31790297
Now post an idol doing gfe. An actual idol, not a vtuber.

>>31790561
Why? I said Kizuna AI did GFE baiting AND went the idol route. I didn't conflate the two at all and never said idol stuff was synonymous with GFE, read again retard then apologize because I was right

>>31752967

>>31788193
That's false equivalency and you know it.

>>31777471
people who give 500 dollars to egirls deserve to be mocked

>>31752362
You're stupid as fuck if you're not baiting. Do you think the vtuber craze became popular because of some sad GFE, or because of the entertainment value of watching anime girls come to life and say nigger while playing GTA? Kizuna Ai is arguably the first orthodox vtuber and she isn't GFE.

>>31759642
This.

>>31791395
>Do you think the vtuber craze became popular because of some sad GFE
Yes. See >>31790297

>>31791248
poorfags are always so salty

>>31790297
how is that GFE you fucking retard, you confuse GFE with simple fanservice like doing situational skit, Kizuna Ai is never about being your virtual girlfriend and no one gonna sperg out when Ai collabed with males, go back EOP newfag just watch twitch e-thot

>>31792026
There's nothing about GFE that differentiates it from sustained fanservice and the argument that there is is simply cope from retards who want to claim vtubing isn't fundamentally about creating paraoscial relationships (it is).

Even Tsukino Mito did massive amounts of GFE related fanservice in the beginning, don't try to argue the entire industry isn't built around it. There is absolutely no reason anyone would ever throw superchats if they weren't emotionally invested.

>>31791556
>Light fanservice
>Obviously doing a bit
I reiterate my point: you are retarded. Try to compare that shit with a streamer the likes of say Pokimane.

>>31792189
Answer me yes or no. Is all live fanservice GFE in your eyes?

>>31746534
>she manipulated...
WHO CARES?
Companies manipulate people with gambling through gacha, companies manipulate people through porn, companies manipulate children through toys and candies, who the fuck cares? If some fag wants to give her money to roleplay as her GF who cares? Is not a crime

>>31791556
>>31792189
Fanservice or not, the reason vtubing became popular was because of le funny moments these girls had. Kizuna Ai's nico nico ni, Miko saying nigger, Matsuri talking about lolis were all gateways for a lot of fans to start watching vtubers. Hell, Pikamee was put on the map after that clip of her saying Hoes went viral. Not to say that she didn't have a slice of fans before, but she really boomed after that one.

>>31792549
>to roleplay as *his GF

>>31792319
No but if you ever say you "love" your fans or your chat you've crossed the line into GFE.

>>31746791
"Thanks for the streamlab"
Who the fuck talks like this?
This dude really never watched a stream in his life.

>>31792189
>There is absolutely no reason anyone would ever throw superchats if they weren't emotionally invested.
you're trying too hard buddy, so every one who donated to every streamer not just vtuber are in parasocial relationship, you unicorn retards are beyond saving, consider neck youself

>>31792921
That's just typical of a regular Twitterfag regarding any form of media.

no one has pointed out that a synonym for "lollipops" is "suckers".

>>31745781
>Big drama
>Have boyfriend
Not killing vshojo

>>31746534
She loves you more than your whores.

>>31746791
Actual faggot kek

>>31746534
The fact of the matter is that streaming is an inherently parasocial medium full of lonely people. At the very least Nazuna cares about her fanbase instead of outright hating them like most of the EN sphere.
And no this isn’t a case of girls being hoes either. EN males are the biggest whores in the scene, pretty much preying on lonely women and their shipping fantasies.

>>31778221
This artist tried to make himself relevant again..kek

>>31796046
Never heard about that faggot so I guess that's why. A shame that he is 6 months too late for this to get any traction.

>>31792549
Okay then stop bitching about them when you find out she has a boyfriend you fucking faggot

>>31796472
She doesn't have a bf dumb fuck. You have no idea how far GFE is with her and her gachi's. Best to just stfu.

Why don't you answer the rest of his relevant question? I doubt your bitch ass says nothing about that.

>>31745673
QRD? She tried to change her GFE act and is returning to her old ways? Is that it?

>>31796738
Lmao sure she doesn't.

You're another faggot too far gone to admit reality you fucking obese pay pig.

>>31797172
She was a massive GFEtuber before she was caught with her hand in the cookie jar as her bf messaged her on Discord during a stream. She lost the vast majority of her gachikoi and had a spergout that resulted in her getting fired from her former corp. Now she's trying to desperately hold onto the few delusional gachis who somehow powered through that entire episode.

>>31797338
But she denied those allegations? Honestly I respect her for sticking to her guns, loyalty is important.

Imagine being so fucking delusional to think some hot piece of ass like her is going remain single for motherfuckers who look like this my fucking sides hurt from laughing.

>>31797415
Well yes, but when you get a message from your bf calling you cute pet names telling you that he's coming back right now, just saying "nuh-uh" isn't going to fix things.

>>31797493
looks like a nice lad

>>31792549
People with morals care when someone preys on mentally ill loners just to suck them dry. You'll never get it because you have the mind of an entitled abuser which is why you will never have a real connection to an actual human being

>>31798001
mentally ill loners want to feel loved bro

>>31797493
Ha, he does look like hes having a good time. Must have been a good day out.

>>31745673
She never learned.

>>31746791
https://files.catbox.moe/fv8jxg.png
This is a much better execution of this guys joke, and it's from months ago.

>>31746791
The fact this got this much malding response means Nyatcha executed thier joke effortlessly lol

>>31794469
This game was the ultimate redpill of this hobby and the fact many of the Holos played it is so funny to me.

>>31797534
It apparently was enough to keep the pay piggies around. These poor bastards are so deep in this hole it’s insane.

>>31801874
You actually needed a game to spell it out for you?

>>31745673
>this time 4 real!!! my wife is gonna be larger than life thanks to VTuber Jesus!!!
VShotards not even once

>>31797337
>Lmao sure she doesn't.
Do provide evidence since you seem to know way more then she or we do. Fucking bitch ass mother fuckin two time trailer park trash.

>>31745673
is Orca back?

>>31801874
I still remember faggots like you going on at the time that they would never play it.

>>31797415
>Catch wife getting railed by another dude in my own living room
>She shouts "WAIT THIS ISN'T WHAT YOU THINK IT IS"
>Ah well I'm sure there's a perfectly clear and logical explanation #believeallwomen

>>31797493
Can't become anymore pathetic than to cherry pick a photo, then build a narrative with your imagination, then put up a straw man argument for you to beat on and then bring it home with delusions of grandeur as you believe this is the representation. Do mind your own business little boy what adults do with their money.

Shit talkers do love talking till you talk to the wrong person and be physically in front of them. I know from experience a lot of you are real pussies in RL to hear dogs like you coward in fear very amusing.

>>31803180
Stick things that are happening in real life and not your delusions and sexual fantasies boy.

>>31803180
>A Discord message = her getting railed in your living room
range ban SEA

>>31803897
You mean America. That's all they think about in America.

>>31746534
it's only problematic and toxic when the people paying akasupas demand something in return, e.g. to not be cucked.

>>31792874
>All love is romantic

>>31793184
>so every one who donated to every streamer not just vtuber are in parasocial relationship
Yes? Why would someone ever willingly give their money to someone else if not because they feel a social connection to them? Streaming isn't like going out for food. No one will give a shit if you don't tip

>>31745745
What makes Ame into the perfect gosling bait? I don't watch her but from what I've read here she doesn't try to do that on purpose.

>>31806094
Yes and anyone who says otherwise is just trying to downplay it
You never hear guys feeling the need to tell other people they love them so much. Or telling fans that. It's only ever girls. Curious. I wonder what kind of mind set that might instill in the predominately male viewership

>>31802206
They're the extreme minority, basically all her gachis left back in February-March. She still has some casual fans and some extremely desperate people watching her, but most of them moved on.

>>31806879
>He doesn't tell the homies he loves them
Unironic closet fag behavior. Also I know you're not looking for any real answers but I have heard big name male streamers like Pewds, Markiplier, and even fucking Tyler1 tell their chat that they love them. If you're only thinking about male vtubers, we have most of the Holostars, if not all by now.

>>31798001
Man why this post reminds so much of the sjw raging about everything on Twitter

>>31745673
>Is history doomed to repeat itself?
A crazy menhera will never stop being a crazy menhera. So yes, yes it is.

>>31801874
Ok you are obviously a newfag but. Why is so funny about vtubers playing a vtuber game?

>>31806786
She's the gamer-girl-next-door-you've-known-since-childhood chuuba and yeah, she's not really doing it on purpose or at least not with the intent to have a horde of gachikoi

>>31790297
Did you even watched the video you posted? It feels like you are desperate to prove your point but you don't have snt idea of how to it.

>>31806879
>You never hear guys feeling the need to tell other people they love them so much.
Plenty of famous male 3dpd streamers do it. And plenty of people say that to their dads and buddies. Maybe people around you just don't like you?

>>31745745
but Ame did nothing wrong

>>31746791
Post the image, faggot.

>>31809533
Apparently the artist got doxxed? Pretty funny.

>>31808092
exactly why I'm into her and not into Rushia, she could just ask and I would gladly name my land's title to her chuuba's name

>>31745745
i moved on

>>31815304
nigger

>>31745673
GFE never changes...

>>31809533
forgive him, he's from twitter and is trying to shill his mediocre art

>>31809847
No?
People just linked a public livestream of them talking about art because they LARPed as a female for years when they're a dude and a bunch of morons couldn't fathom it and asked for proof.

>>31796472
>>31798001
Hope you moral super heroes are also bitching at mc donalds for luring kids into buying happy meals and with all the other PNG casinos out there

>>31802738
Uh I want to know that too

>>31745673
I thought it already did? Wasn't she getting shit for joining a dudes stream unannounced like a week ago?

>>31764934
I almost started writing NTR porn and it was because I felt jaded about people in general. I still do, but I want to provide comfort rather than spread despair porn.

>>31746791
This "parasocial" boogeyman is getting ridiculous...

>>31752362
Fucking hell, no wonder Nazuna went on depression phase few days ago considering some her fans are mentally ill like this. They behave like they own the vtuber

>>31819031
As an anime fan, I'm kinda glad that normies are going to ruin vtubing. Hope the people looking for GFE goes back to one of the few mediums that will always deliver.

>>31764934
congrats, you just figured out while actual pedos are ripping on lolis so much.

>>31764934
Yes there's a reason nobody likes NTRfags and makes fun of them.

>>31746791
Man, this is the kind of normalfags invading this place. Everytime I see somebody complaining about GFE or parasocials, I'll know it's one of these retards.

>>31784332
Because you're a thread reader.

It cant really now that people know

>>31822609
I won't shit on parasocial shit since that's the crux of much of modern entertainment these days and youtube shit, but I will always shit on GFE, that's just fucking mental illness. You need to distance yourself a bit if you honestly want to larp that shit out.

>>31828322
it ain't a larp for some

>>31828322
You're creating arbitrary distinctions to justify your own taste. You couldn't cleanly separate the two terms if you tried but you will categorize "streamers I like" as "parasocial" and "streamers I don't like" as "GFE" and call it a day so you can feel justified in being a weirdo and attacking streamers you don't like while calling yourself mentally sane and everyone else mentally ill, just like the NTR guy in that original post.

>>31819359
>Watch another isekai/ecchi/copy paste show
Nah I am fine. I stopped enjoying anime long time ago. But I will watch chuubas talking about anime.