/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>31863784
>forced Kronii into a Homo collab.
Qrd or context?

>>31864098
Dead by Daylight collab next week with Mori, Bae, Regis and Vesper

>>31863784
Not Mori, This was definitely the rat's doing. Of course Mori corrupted the rat so I guess she's still partly to blame for this.

Vesper won her over with his pure charm, she was all over his chat. Charge Mori rent.

>>31863784
How much longer until Homostars joins the rust server and immediately fucks shit up by being superior male gamers and dominating every encounter forcing all the girls to cry and rage quit?

>>31864523
lol never because for Minecraft the boys share the server with their JP senpai.

It was more likely Bae. She already pulled this shit on Mumei.

>>31864186
Wait, for real?
Fucking hell... The male collabs started

>>31863784
I think she's just smitten with Vesper like we all are. He's an incredible man.

>>31863784
>Kronii says she's okay with Tempus collabs
>Kronii collabs with Tempus
>NOOOO SOMEONE FORCED HER

I switched from watching HoloEN to watching Tempus when they debuted.
I'm happy to see the boys aren't being isolated by other promotions like Stars gen1 was

>>31863784
mine's pretty safe

>>31865004
>Killing your own career to own the incels
Nice one Kronii, very based.

>your EN oshi

>>31864852
holy shit, who knew rat had so much influence and power over others. lol keep seething schizo

>>31865063
Literally nobody ever believed for a single second they'd be isolated, not just because their JP senpais aren't or the fact they were promoted fucking endlessly by all of HoloEN but also the fact that EN culture wouldn't allow it and the girls shamed any of their fans who preferred not forcing interactions.

>>31865322
Which is a good thing I'm happy about

I fully blame the rat. She always has to initially drag someone along with her to diffuse the hate, THEN she goes solo. Such a fucking manipulate calculating whore when it comes to cock. I genuinely think Mori is innocent here for once.

you guys are aware that they're all in a same discord server right? casually hanging out, talking about games to play, organically coming up with collabs

>>31864523
Never. It's JP's server first and foremost. EN management are dumb fucks but they're not career suicide levels of dumb fucks. Unfortunately.

>>31865384
The problem is when you beggars then still pester them trying to make them into victims so you can ruin the entire thing for everyone. Nobody was ever isolated so the complaint is never actually isolation, it's that they aren't forced on absolutely everyone.

>>31863784
maybe she made enough unicorn money and tired of schizos and creepy gachikois and wish to filter them out

>>31865445
Gura would never

>>31865598
They all think this until it bites them in the ass. Look at how many selfie tweets saying "uwu I love you guys so much" she's made over the past few months, look at the pinned comment of her new song. UMG are not happy with her destroying her own reputation to ride Connors dick.

>>31865445
You don't have to make up wild conspiracies when the truth is already upsetting (that they are all straight adults who have sex). HoloEN's don't all communicate with each other, many of them have been in the same company now for years and know less about one another then a casual fan.

>>31865590
I don't know what you're on about. I've never requested a collab from a talent or complained about the lack thereof on this board.

>>31863784
Kronii was always like this, you're just too deep into the ribbon to see it. There's a reason kronies are the biggest joke of the board next to deadbeats

>>31865322
>shamed any of their fans who preferred not forcing interactions.
They shamed people who tried to force no interaction at all. Your projection is showing pretty hard.

So, will this collab going to reveal the menhera's of this board?
Because making this kind of reaction during is only going to be in Vain.
Clearly, there are Glow in the Dark Antis who are trying to arouse a bad reaction to this.
Don't fall for it, or you are already on the wrong side of things.

>>31865733
The talents themselves have shared screenshots of their discord conversations it's not some conspiracy.

>>31865813
There are no such people. You can claim that they were shaming some non-existent group but nobody actually believes that. Some of them literally go out of their way to spite fans who aren't total yes-men on the topic.

>>31865993
The conspiracy is that you think all of them have conversations, casually hanging out and talking about things and working together. You think there's some Holo orgy that every one of them take part in on the daily. And that they then lie about it by somehow never having this crossover in reality but instead all having little cliques that are pretty independent of everyone else.

Kronii messaged Vesper and talked with him on twitter already. She approved of male collabs on stream in response to a superchat even.

Why are ENs like this? Why is the EN audience okay with this? Surely decades of jewish social engineering haven't turned you all into cucks, right?

>>31866431
You're talking about Kronies, the second biggest cucks on the board

>>31866431
That's why i only watch jps

>>31866484
I don't understand them, and it slightly irks me.

>>31864199
>>31864852
>>31865411
Bae already said she won't be forcing anyone into collabs because she understands the culture and doesn't want to make the girls uncomfortable, also said homobeggers who harrass the girls suck during a members stream
This was entirely Kronii's own decision or she got invited by Mori
You're not getting away with deflecting this time Krobeats

>>31866431
At least they've graduated from getting cucked by alpha negroids to getting cucked by beta mongoloids.

>>31865993
We've seen countless Holo discord leaks that show how they have like 50 different servers or private group chats for every little different gen/group/unit/collab they do. Fucking Towa even has her own server with all her male Apex orbiters.
They're not just chilling in some big Holopro unity server 24/7 with everyone and casually chatting about their day and how it's like an all-out war.

>>31866646
>she understands the culture
what culture? ENs act like they're rebels against some generic "idol culture" when it literally doesn't exist at all in the West. It's like when the side with the most power labels themselves as the #resistance

>>31866646
Why is the assumption always the girls will be uncomfortable? I will never understand this retarded logic. Do you think every male wants to collab with Aqua or Kiara or Ollie. Jesus Christ, I feel sorry for a lot of the males because they don't even get the option of saying no to some of those crazy hags forcing themselves on their cocks.

>>31866850
It's especially funny when Bae and Ollie would see themselves as the biggest fans of idols and yet they have also taken it upon themselves to make it their life's mission to force things on all their idol "friends" that those idols are free to do at anytime and choose not to.

>>31866646
Timestamp?

I was gonna make an actual argument but all of Kronii's gifted memberships are getting on my nerves we gotta get the filters going!!!!

>>31866850
>>31866907
The culture of how some of the EN girls don't want to upset a portion of their fanbase by collabing with men which is why she doesn't want to destroy that balance they have created
a big reason why she never mentions the homos in front of other girls or IRyS during chadcast

>>31867082
Members stream

>>31866646
Kronii got invited. She's on record with saying she would not reach out for collabs.
That means this is entirely on Mori.

>>31867205
>ome of the EN girls don't want to upset a portion of their fanbase by collabing with men

Who? Who out of the 10 ENs have straight-up said they won't collab with men? Pretty sure it's less than 3. 3/10, when it should be standard. Some culture huh

>>31866850
>We don't understand anything, so let's just call it "different culture" and reject it!
Typical Westerners, really. They haven't changed at all.

>>31863784
>DBD
>no Gura
not keen on starting shit when there is none but I think the shork declined
which in my mind reinforces the rrat that she's actively avoiding them

>>31867205
That is not EN culture, it's just personal preference and being respectful to your co-workers. It should extend to far more than just the topic of the Homos but it rarely does. Kiara doesn't avoid male collabs because her fans tell her to, her fans told her the exact opposite.

>>31867495
This will be the big rift in HoloEN. Kronii will inevitably get some backlash and will say "Gura aren't you going to support me against these incel losers?". There will be a wedge driven between the pro-homo and anti-homo sides of EN and cliques will form that will never interact with each other because the pro homo side will become bitter that the anti-homo side is pandering to the people who they get hate off for their homo collabs.

>>31867634
It sucks that kronii is being used a pawn by pro-homo because she just wants to be neutral.

>>31866646
What was that JP stars collab where she strong armed Mumei into going with her then? Mumei looked uncomfortable as fuck all stream.

>>31867634
cool fanfic but nothing is going to happen

>>31867753
Mumei, the girl who was in the star's chats earlier in her career, it's not hard to imagine she changed her initial stance after seeing the vitriolic reactions from unicorns
She is always quiet as fuck with new Jp people she interacts with

>>31867801
Yeah because women in the workplace are renowned for their ability to stay professional and not let small social slights turn into massive shitfights

>>31867211
Shhh, that anon obviously doesn't watch Kronii.

>>31867634
Everyone is pro-Homo excepting Irys and Gura.

>>31867929
That is true. Mumei had an wake up call to not piss off the unicorns of Hololive.

>>31867984
Kiara and Fauna are anti homo

>>31867984
IRyS is pro homo retard. She literally talks to the JP stars and had them on her birthday

>>31864786
Thank the vtubing gods for that...

>>31868038
There is a GAP between unicorn and not wanting forced interactions.

>>31863784
>forced
Why do insist on using that word?

>>31867929
Mumei is a very autistic shy girl who isn't very good talking around new people. It's very obvious she only went to help Bae out since she ask since it was: People she doesn't know, in a different langue and that are all guys. It was just super awkward for her and watching it I just felt bad because looking at her it felt like when your friend drags you to a party and you don't know anyone or want to be there.

>>31868048
Kiara was the first to show support for Tempus

>>31868142
>Kronii
>Saying no

>>31866646
How did the Bae x IRyS conversation go regarding males? It's weird that they are so close yet IRyS simply ignores that aspect of Baes existence and Bae seems almost afraid to mention them in front of her. What did IRyS say to her?

>>31863784
>forced
He said this when she lusts after my uncle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JacsMqdk7lc

I didn't mind homoen but if they gonna be the catalyst to destroy hololive's culture and main appeal and turn it into another streamer whorehouse than fuck those faggots and that fucking tranny, if anyone wanted to see this type of garbage they could watch any other streamer group, they could watch fucking nijien,so why the fuck would you get rid of what makes your content unique and interesting, main reason you were at the top not long ago, I just don't get it.
It's going to suck even more for EN3, debuting onto a fractured fanbase like these girls don't have confidence and motivation issues already or maybe they will gladly join the fuckfest, honestly who fucking knows at this point, I wouldn't be surprised if en management hires literal hololive antis.

>>31868366
>they will gladly join the fuckfest
It's going to be this and you know this.

>>31868234
Something along the lines of "I have goslings in my fanbase" (not literally ofc)
It's just Bae being respectful to her wishes, I don't think theres anything more to it
During last chadcast, Mori and IRyS mentioned Bae's twitter icon near the beginning and Bae immediately steered away the conversation from the topic so Magni doesn't get mentioned

>>31868191
so little faith in kronii and reducing her into this lifeless object just so you can justify your crying, got it

>>31868234
It's honestly mind-boggling that Irys somehow has such a reputation at all considering she's the biggest whore personality in EN and her friends in EN are all horndogs. Even JP's that she associates with like Sora are famous for constantly interacting with males so it's weird that she seems to have drawn herself a line there. Must be autism or some agreement with her family.

If I were a chuuba I would never collab with a female

>>31865161
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5AAk6aNc8qE

>>31868234
>yet IRyS simply ignores that
she doesn't, she was the first one to bring up a star, roberu, in chadcast.

>>31863784
It's honestly hilarious when people on /vt/ talk about how whenever some other girl interacts with Holostars they must be getting forced into it by Mori/Bae/Ollie and they actually don't want to do anything with the Holostars at all.
Look, if they wanted to never acknowledge Holostars existence they're free to do. There's a bunch of Holos that have gone for fucking 2-3 years without ever giving them even something as insignificant as a fucking twitter follow or a retweet and the only time they ever mentioned Holostars was to tell people that they will never collab with them.

But if you're shocked when a girl like Kronii that talked about how cool Vesper was on stream and showed up in Holostar chats and posted on twitter about watching Holostar streams is going to collab with Holostars then you need to take your meds.

>>31868366
>EN management hiring holo antis
No, anon. The problem is that they're most likely westoids who've drunk the koolaid. Those woke fucks get raging boners whenever they successfully infiltrate fandoms and destroy them from the inside. Just look at what happened to movies and games.

>>31867801
I beliebe
surely management wouldn't let it spiral out of control and if shit hit the fan they'd ban interaction
right?

>>31868366
EN is literally run by a Holo anti and s/he's proud of that fact.

>>31868815
People are shitposting because Bae force a girl to do it once and she just looked like she didn't want to be there all stream one time. I don't think Kronii needed to be forced here probably

>>31868582
Based. That's what i would do if i was on Tempus.

>>31867753
>Mumei looked uncomfortable as fuck all stream
that's mumei

>>31868815
>Look, if they wanted to never acknowledge Holostars existence they're free to do.
That's the controversial part, anon. Any EN streamer who doesn't acknowledge Holostars will be shamed and hated by the "EN Culture"

>>31867693
that's how it goes down in war, the neutral countries are safe at first and then are inevitably rolled over when one side makes a push
in most situations, to be truly neutral you need a lot of leverage

>>31869013
Nobody hates Gura because of that though

>>31868558
Shut the fuck up cuckbeat

>>31869048
Perhaps, but you should keep my words in mind, because I see it coming lightyears away

>>31868164
https://youtu.be/k4iFBBAsjJQ
Sometimes to be true neutral you have to sacrifice yourself for the cause.

>>31869013
It's the opposite

>>31868366
They’re literally only doing it because they see all the money Niji EN is making with Vox and want some too. These corpos mainly care about money at the end of the day.

>>31868833
Pretty much. There's no way to effectively gatekeep these fuckers so once they worm their way in your hobby is essentially dead as it becomes a platform for the purpose of "owning the bigots" and the original content that made it good withers away because the new people don't understand what made it good nor do they care, they only know chuds enjoyed it and must be purged.

>>31866431
The EN audience is more normal. They are more likely to watch things for fun and not obsess over them.
This is because unlike the japanese most of the western EN audience is socially developed. They have friend groups that include women and sometimes even girlfriends.
This ofcourse makes no sense to you, because you unironically believe that everyone watching a vtuber wants to fuck them and anything else is cope

ITT unicorns projecting their cuckoldry

>>31869448
>Proudly announcing you're a normalfag
The absolute state.

>>31869448
Cope however you want, the bulk of the EN audience being normie casuals is one of their big downsides and why they are ultimately the inferior branch. But you can't pretend their biggest supporters are also normal, those people are sick in the head and often far worse than their JP counterparts. Orca is more respectable than the majority of EN's core supporters.

>>31869448
And that's why JP will always be superior and EN will be a mess of retardation with talents that hate their fans and don't bother streaming most days

>>31869013
Doesn't happen. Most of those people these days just cope and say shit like "oh they're too shy to talk to other gender so it can't be helped" when deep down they know that's bullshit and they talk to other men all the time.

>>31868492
Okay cuck

>>31868048
>>31868164
Kiara is pro homo as in she wants them to be succesful, but anti in the way that she will never collab with them since she's autistic about wanting to be an idol even though she probably doesn't have any unicorn fans

>>31863784
Don't deflect. Kronii is an adult woman responsible for her own actions, and deserves all the responsibility for agreeing to this collab.

>>31870916
Kiara doesn't have a single fan who wouldn't clap and cheer if she collabed with males but she herself is an idol fan and likes her idols to be female only.

>>31871485
>implying
I'm very glad Kiara is as autistic as she is. Keeps her content and persona consistent.

>>31871485
Did she have a male on Holo Talk already? excluding yagoo

>>31863784
Why is everyone surprised? Mori pretty much pimped gura out to her bigger friends to get gang banged

>>31871753
No, but her fans want her to have them and she is reluctant because she doesn't watch their content.

>>31868083
>and had them on her birthday
HUH?!

>>31871753
She refuses to to bring the homos because she’s a massive numberfag.

>>31863784
The HoloEN dream is turning into a nightmare.

>>31863784
Mori I kneel

>>31869013
lol have you seen the amount of of simps who try to convince themselves that it's because "they are too shy to talk to guys"?

If mori's subs were only 50k, do you think she would be more humble?

>>31863784
Weird, because Kronii seemed to appear in Vesper's chat completely by her own choice. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kvm4SQimpsY

Kronii created HoloStarsEN0
why is there surprise

>>31863784
not my problem

>>31884877
Because its from top 10 anime betrayal.

>>31865164
Is it really career killing when 99.994% of her fans don't mind?

>>31889771
Idk desu
She seems like she never has had a problem with masculine energy + always deflects ANY kind of romance stuff with Kronii X Kronii
Really not a big deal desu

>>31891124
"I don't mind" just means they will skip the stream and drop her if it keeps happening.

>>31866431
It blows my mind that there are people as mentally retarted as you

>>31893766
you're already bracing yourself

>>31884877
Ministry was Fauna's idea; which she got from Kronii's voice changer antics.

>>31863784
Why do you retards on this fan refer to EN fans as westerners when majority of them are fucking Asian anyway even the ones living in US and Europe