/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>282080
I know it’s easier said than done but, Gura should swallow whatever her worries are and just collab with her JP senpais already. Maybe it doesn’t have to be her senpais either, I’m sure ID is more than willing to collab with Gura too.

>>282080
Get some real chat mods and just nuke zhangs already.

>>282080
More original songs for Watame
Album for Watame
Casual outfit for Watame
Swimwear for Watame
More Live2D expressions for Watame
3Ds for each of Watame's outfits
Statue/figma for Watame
Nendoroid Watame
Sololive for Watame
HoloFes starring Watame

ease out different gender collab restriction (especially the foreign branch since it's less controversial)

>>282080
Cover is proof that you can be functionally retarded as a company and it doesn't matter if your talent recruitment is good enough.

>>282225
This. AO-chan goes a long way to keeping Inas chat decent. I don't think anyone would care if China got range banned from chat for all the shit they cause. Feels bad for any legit CN fans but still.

>>282274
I can't wait until Watame and Mori get a full song collab like she wants, sheep has way too good of a voice to not use at every opportunity.

>>282080
>criticism on hololive
Quality merchandise please
>and its talents
Stop being afraid of one another and just collab

>>282494
>rangebanning China
Is this possible with YT? Or do they need to make a custom plugin or something?

>>282080
Get better at distributing the music created by your talents. Cloudy Sheep and Hologram Circus still isn't available on streaming services.

Stop having everyone stream at the same fucking time.
Massive dead hours due to 16 people streaming at the same time.

How expensive are making new rigs/outfits? I feel like they should be more commonly introduced, perhaps holiday themed/special events and such. Especially for the shit tier models like Azki and Kiara.

>>282988
Months ago some anon said the good l2d riggings cost about 10000HK$

>>282578
FotNS honestly surprises me on that list.

>>282080
>criticism thread
You mean the anti - thread?

My only criticism is that Enma should let Coco collab with the EN girls already and Haachama should be back in the server. This is all that is missing from my life after realizing the CCP is already harvesting the organs of the harassers.

>>283568
Global are allergic to the word antis.

>>282194
Collabing without sharing a language is awkward shit. I don't know why you fags want it so hard.

>>282655
I think you can block access to your videos from specific countries, but I'm not sure it works on livestreams. And chinks all use VPNs to access Youtube afaik, so it'd probably be pointless.

>>282080
>literally making an anti thread
Fuck off

>>289188
Read the fucking posts, does it look like an anti thread to you?

>>282578
>anpanman
>60B
Jesus Christ I wasn’t aware he was such a massive cultural icon in Japan

>>283643
Translation on the image?

>>289286
Its mostly his merch that sells

>>282194
What if they're jealous of their quick rise in popularity and that's why there are no collabs?

>>282274
Based, add a live Watame bukkake event to the list

>>282080
Not enough Aki.
Need more Aki.

>>283643
This. If they’re afraid of chat being cancerous, just have Coco collab with Ina first since she has AO-chan as a dedicated mod.

>>282415
>Cover
And K*nami, Nintendo, SEGA, K*nami, Capcom, WiT studio, K*nami, most anime studios

>>282578
>>283383
>Fist of the North Star
>primary profit from videogames
There are games? What the fuck?

Better live2d tech, better tracking, like hands, more outfits and accessories, animations
I just want to see Ame in a summer dress with long hair

>>289306
Fan: Thanks Flare for merch
(presumably a month or so later)
Flare: Coco is back!
Fan: Noooo

Cover needs to start encouraging their talents to make highlights of their livestream just like LITERALLY every other big streamer regardless of which platform they stream on does.

It's utterly insane English streamers figured out that clickbaiting youtube video with highlights from your streams grows your livestream regardless of which platform you stream on and also you make more money from the adsense in those videos than you get from superchats and memberships.

Like, Ludwig is not a streamer, he's a youtuber who makes his videos on stream and makes 5x from youtube adsense than whatever he gets from twitch donos and subs, the same thing goes for valkyrae, disguisedtoast, XQC, pokimane, tyler1 you name it.

Here's the other part that "Just watch it live" people don't understand. You're actively cutting yourself from potential growth because new viewers who hear about you will visit your channel, see a 4 hour video and immediately click away because why the fuck would they watch a 4 hour video?

Instead you should find an editor (this part is extremely easy, there are entire discord servers filled with them in the English community) start off small with paying small commissions like $250 per video, and if the quality work is good pay the editor 15% of the adsense of the video he uploads.

You then just use clickbait titles and thumbnails to draw in an audience that your 7 hour long minecraft streams never would have attracted since the youtube algorithm might recommend Ame's minecraft videos to people who watch massive minecraft youtubers.


The only person who understands this is Gura since I believe she's going to start looking for an editor.

Also before you fags whine about them needing to get EVERYONE an editor, marine has said that for projects Cover doesn't always pay them out of their pocket and a lot of time the girls and their managers need to go out on their own for it, so all I'm saying is cover should ENCOURAGE them to make channel highlights.
Sidenote: all of this is pointless if Cover takes a lot of money from adsense, so if they take like 80% it wouldn't be very worth it, but I doubt it since Gura is getting an editor.

>>282386
>homobegging
There is no such restriction, you retarded newfag. They themselves prefer to stick to the status quo for whatever reason. Leave the matter be and wait for when they decide to do it on their own accord.

>>282988
>>283082
The problem isn't money, but the time consumed. Since the announcement, it took Cover a full month to release Nene's new design. So, this means that either creating a half-decent Vtuber model is hard or that the talented people at creating them are bogged down by large amounts of requests (assuming that they're contracted labor and not in-house developers). Now imagine having to constantly release models for at least 15 people every three months for a specific seasonal event.

>>282274
based

>>290516
They can have that same person upload highlight videos onto other video hosting sites like vimeo, dailymotion, bitchute, etc.

Let Coco collab with somebody everyday to make the chinks seethe and cope

>>291417
Well they have been relying on the same 5-7? riggers and modellers to do all their stuff.

And that's only counting Cover, not whatever other requests they get from other agencies.

>>283643
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Every Holo should have a dedicated chat mod who isn't afraid to perma-ban people.
The only thing that salvaged Ina's first Half-Life 2 stream chat was AO-Chan bringing down the hammer on that Jolly faggot and his Twitter entourage.

>>291894
Meant to reply to >>289480

>>289691
pachinko has something to do with it IIRC

>>289691
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Fist_of_the_North_Star_video_games

>>282080
Ayame needs to play Doom. In fact, more holos should play Doom. It's actually a good stream game

>>291561
Instagram and Tiktok actually get so much eyes on content creators, especially with otakus. Get like 15-120 seconds of that video and upload it to tiktok, instagram and twitter to promote their YouTube channel that has the longer clip. Fortnite channels on Instagram are massive and it requires little maintenance since you're just uploading funny anime person highlights that you're already working on for you're YouTube channel.

I feel like I'm an insane person that sees this potential for growth but they just stick to 4 hour streams that only NEETs like us will watch.

>>291112
Matsuri said in the APEX tournament afterparty that management made sure that the girls wouldn't get paired up with any guys

>>292341
>I feel like I'm an insane person that sees this potential for growth but they just stick to 4 hour streams that only NEETs like us will watch.
You're not the only one, anon. A lot people are just too plain retarded to see that Holos could have double the engagement (plus a significant boost to their revenue) just from having their own clips being shared instead of letting parasite clipfags leeching their content.

>>292341
The Hololive members that have realised this are seeing their channel growth skyrocket. Risu's NNN posts catapulted her (and to a lesser extent the rest of ID) ahead of where she was. Now Kanata and Marine are pulling out the meme clips they're growing faster too.

I thought they finally fixed their management incompetency problem, but given what just happened to Coco, apparently not.

>>292625
It's really one big fuck up. But hey! At least they got a big surge of game permissions all of a sudden

>>292556
Did she? You might want to provide a timestamp for this, cause it seems like something worth checking out.

But let's assume that there is such a restriction for a second. How do you explain, all of the collabs between the female Holos and males that have taken place up to this point? Are you sure that this was done by management because they themselves don't want the girls to collab with guys or is it because the girls themselves requested it be so? Remember, they are aware of who their audience is (the ones that right now are actually paying the bills).

>>282194
Collabing with ID is the better first step. At least that way the rrats about her not wanting to collab with anyone outside of EN would be put to rest.

>>282578
>Quality merchandise please
This so much. Why the fuck is the merch so utter garbage?

>>283643
>My only criticism is that Enma should let Coco collab with the EN girls already and Haachama should be back in the server.
We don't have proof these are actually on Enma. Haachama likely left the server as a result of realizing her english skills were seriously lacking , or she just found it boring compared to the JP one. For Coco I don't recall her saying it was the EN manager, just that she was waiting to hear back from a manager. Given the EN girls have multiple managers, its far more likely Coco is waiting on her own manager.

>>292747
I thought it was more, management doesn't want them to collab with "randoms".

Holostars seem fine since they're under the same parent company but random guys seem like a no go.

>>293160
I think Kiara is currently the only one that has mentioned contacting Coco before. This was in a members only stream though.

It was regarding the sleep tweet and she mentioned it was her first time talking to her.

>>292557
THANK YOU I wasn't sure how to exactly word it but that's exactly what's happening. They could even hire Audio transcribers which are incredibly cheap at $1.50-$3 per audio minute or $90-$150 per audio hour depending on the quality and how many people are talking.

They could then upload the file and encourage fans to submit for various different languages for CC which would be much easier to do since they would be translating instead of doing interpreting which is a lot harder for non-natives.

>>292589
Yeah, it's great and they're viewership numbers from those videos are insane, but they're putting in too much effort IMO. They should just outsource the videos to a couple of editors so they can focus on streaming and entertaining while their editors grow their video production side of their channel. Like, I can't keep up with 5 HoloEN and 6 HoloID streams, but if they all released videos that were all 10-25 minutes I could not only keep up with the content they're most proud of creating which would help me get an even better insight of what they are as a creative, but I could also support them instead of some fucking leech.

I don't know, more games, more holos get used to the games before playing.

In fact encourage community cooperation rather than fawn over the girl or guy. I swear senpaitachi you will always have a lesser feeling when you don't have the community. Your Oshi will never care for you, neigh, even read what you say sometimes, but hey you can get good friends.

>>293475
This is the same company that makes translated clips for Watame but doesn't advertise it. It's beyond stupid.

I agree though that a 10-25 min or however long, highlights video would help boost their channel a lot.

Part of the problem I see with Hololive though is that they exclusively seem to hire people who live in Tokyo for certain positions.

Get more permissions for games.
I love Papers, Please, but I don't want to see a Let's Play of it for the 12th time.

>>282080
How bout more co op games for JP that isn’t a party game?

>>282494
>>282655
China is already banned from YouTube, thanks to the great firewall. Any actual Zhangs you see in coco's chat got there through VPN, so rangebannning a region doesn't really do anything.

>>291417
>>291737
As far as I'm aware the only in house staff they have are 3d technicians. The live2d and rigging are all done by contracted freelancers.

>>294656
Oh my god this. I want them to play more games than Among Us, Phantamasgora and minecraft.

Pekora and Moona should milk the shit out of their Tee Tee shit goddamn I'm having a withdrawal worse then drugs withdarawal, they play together only once a month at most

>pls collab, peko

>>289475
underrated

>>282274
You forgot the Oppai Mousepad

> Cover doesn't always pay them out of their pocket and a lot of time the girls and their managers need to go out on their own for it

This is my single biggest complain about Cover.
Unless it is something Cover wants to do they left the girls on their own to fumble and stumble with no support whatsoever.
Cover is stuck in a small company mentality that got too big too fast and is too stupid to notice and stubborn to change.

>>290516
>gura gets an editor
oh great more clips of
>huu haw haw
>kyaaaaa
>gura presses button in game
incredible, can't wait

>>296336
Unless Cover approves and funds it, all covers the girls do they pay out of pocket.

The girls have to pay out of pocket for the songs they sing during karaoke streams.

Unless its funded by Cover, the original songs the girls make are payed out of pocket as well (Kiara, Calli, Suisei early on). But they still take a cut of the sales because they can.

>>296465
Anything Gura does in clips gets like 50k+ views. Might as have her make money off that I guess.

Stop acting like you are a small indie company. You haven't been a small company in a year. You need to do a better job protecting your damn talents. Bring the fucking hammer down on people who are ACTIVELY trying to fuck with your business. Stop treating EN and JP like they are different companies.

The truth is and it is the same issue with the WWE is they are the big dog in town and have very little pressure to change things. But muh Niji... Nijisanji is the NWA of VTubers talk to me when they become a real competitor beyond their JOP schizo fans causing trouble.

Honestly though I am predicting 5 years down the road the push to work for Cover or any major company won't be as strong. In fact like we saw with wrestling it can be more profitable to get future endeavor'd from the big company. VTubers aren't fucking going anywhere they will always hold a niche and experience resurgences in the future.

>>282194
I dont understand why people want Gura to collab with her jp senseis when she is most eop Hololive en member.Imagine her trying to have a fluent conversation with someone like shion that would be a mess

really don't like the last few models updates

>>293888

>This is the same company that makes translated clips for Watame but doesn't advertise it
Yeah, I literally didn't know Watame had official translated clips on her channel until this past December. Kizuna Ai has a twitter account that exclusively tweets about official videos that gets translated CC on her channel, I don't see why Cover can't set up an account like that does that for everyone in Holoproductions.

>Part of the problem I see with Hololive though is that they exclusively seem to hire people who live in Tokyo for certain positions.
Do the translators, animators and writers for Holo no graffiti have to live in Tokyo?

>>297289
Yeah something like that would be ideal, or if they really want to keep the clips on the main channel at least use the regional title feature.

You can see haachama as one of the people that mainly use this function.
Example:
トマトうどん作った!【はあちゃまクッキング for JP
BITCH MADE PASTA for EN

I really hope they don't have to live in Tokyo. It'd be a waste. I can somewhat understand must live in Japan but Tokyo?

>>296465
Yeah it's w/e, but I hope to god that Gura inspires some of HoloID branch members and the JP members who get less viewers and have less subs than others to get an editor so people who don't watch their streams will have something to watch on their channels.

>>297663
Is there a source on the editor? I'm interested to see when she said that.

And yeah, I've seen that it generally takes some overseas person to really get it into Covers head that they're doing it wrong (most notably Coco really tapping into that to grow the EN audience).

>>292747
https://youtu.be/W3mTgS3JPTY?t=12587
It's not a blanket rule on all of Hololive, it's up to the specific manager. For example, back when Kaoru was still around, Watame had to ask her manager if it was okay to respond to one of his tweet replies.

>>298516
Yeah some of the managers seem really strict and others are pretty hands off.

>>297741
Fuck I can't find it. I saw some anon in some anti thread of sorts or maybe a Holo general thread mention how she said that she needed to get a video editor after she hit the 2m milestone. I don't watch the shark, but I'll try and see if it's in one of her Skyrim playthroughs if not it's in probably in her Karaoke celebration.

>>292625
What happened to Coco?

>>296671
Based /asp/ invasion.

>>300044
They accidentally made the ban list users into mods today .

Gura should have at least one week where she plays something new everyday just to see what sticks. First person horror games suck.

>>289306
Organ harvester is upset that his oshi is wishing coco well wishes

>>294656
I remember during the last summer all they played was ark...

>>292625
my rrat says the management is bullying coco into quitting. Pawa wara something

>>295558
They might not want to "link" their characters, like how Ame has mentioned she doesn't want to be "Gura's girlfriend". Or, they just don't feel like collabing too much fuck if I know

>>298547
Polka's manager seems very chill.
Korone's seems to nag a lot.
Subaru's a fujo, so trash.

>>296852
>she is most eop Hololive en member
Definitely ame. At the very least, they're the same. And ame threw herself at the language barrier like a ragdoll.

It's courage. Gura has always been a coward.

>>292557
Really makes based Norio seem prescient for clipping and animating Tamaki on the channel itself.

>>303345
Link like kayfabe link? Ame already did that multiple times though

>>305411

I meant link as in the way kiara and mori are currently for a very extreme example. If gura graduated tomorrow, apart from the general sadness that your genmate and friend just graduated, Ame and her character would be fine. If Mori graduated, it would be a huge blow for kiara's character. They'd probably be a huge akward phase as kiara attempts to "unlink" her character from Mori's, especially if the graduation happened for a controversial reason.

Although that might have been exactly what you meant by a kayfabe link, and I'm just living up to my name and being a retard.

>>312211

Although, this is just a very convoluted way of trying to explain something that is probably as simple as schedules being hard to match up

its been more than half a year and they still havent handled fucking permissions well and are still locked into extremely small selection of games every month.

I dont know if its the companies denying them or cover being incompetent, but holy shit I miss when they could play whatever they wanted, people won't notice because of the deleted archives, but specially the GAMERS (okayu, korone, FBK, mio) believe it or not, used to play fucktons of games, amongst others like flare, subaru, matsuri, haato, aqua, even luna and coco on their first months too.

Calliope, never play an RPG again

>>312576
Most likely cause Capcom faggotry, seeing as how that alone caused Mio to be gone for a month

They should really play WC3 custom games. That'll take care of their game variety issue

>>313013
Last I knew Blizzard had forcibly killed WC3 custom games trying to push WC3:Refucked, unless they walked that back.

>>291894
>The only thing that salvaged Ina's first Half-Life 2 stream chat was AO-Chan bringing down the hammer on that Jolly faggot and his Twitter entourage.

What happened? What did Jolly do to get banned from the chat?

>>312722
Was she just bad at this game, or are you just sick of RPGs, because Omori's a good game.

>>314015
Clout chasing and "banter" with chat

>>282080
>Holos that need to graduate ASAP
-Roboco
-Mel
-Choco
-Coco
-Haato
-Mio
-Towa
-Nene
Also all the Homostars need to fuck off and die already

>>315996
>Cover
>graduations
>people that actually are still revenue generating
I thought Cover was incompetent, but you certainly make them look like seasoned pros.

EN needs Minecraft help

Korone has gone downhill in terms of quality over the past 6 months or so. Her reactions feel so forced these days, and I'm just going to assume her overseas growth is to blame. Her fake laugh being the worst offender. Can we get back late 2019/early 2020 Korone?

>>282194
More japanese lessons with kiara before any holoJP collaborations.

>>290516
Gura said she wants to try the editing herself, not sure if she’s actively looking for an editor unless her stance changed recently

>>282080
>talent

Please redesign Kiara.

>>282080
They should release merch constantly, not only because of birthdays and shit. I want Marine merch cuz I'm a merch fag but just a few things by cover and some tapestries her mom's circle? Meh

>>290516
this

>>315996
>-Coco
>-Haato
Whatcha doin Zhang?

>>298847

She mentioned looking to start making small videos on her channel in her recent asmr members only video

>>315996
Taiwan.

>>296671
Ah yes, they aren't real competiton. They only dominate the japanese market with most of their fans being from JP unlike hololive which is a combination.

There's 94 vtubers from them above 200k but they are a failure.

Cover Corp needs to translate all their posts from the hololive channel on YouTube/Twitter in EN. They still have no idea how to properly pander to EOPs, even Niji does a better job.

If it is happening: managers need to stop blocking collabs. There's zero reason to be part of the same company if there is some imposed barrier between the branches.
If it's language barriers stopping some of this stuff then fine, that's something the girls need to work through on their own and together.

Holos that aren't animal themed shouldn't get animal fucking ears. It doesn't look cute, it doesn't look nice and it fucking sucks.

>>322473
don't bother, this board is filled with uninformed holofaggots

>>282080
Since the Holo's basically have similar sets of GPU/CPU, they should really have a set of standard OBS settings to maximize video quality for most of their talents to use. Fucking tired of low bit rate

>>322717
They should have is standardized hardware across the board with install images to speed up setup and troubleshooting period.

>>322655
I think it’s mostly by the request of the holos themselves.

>>293160
It's clear that someone is telling her to stay away from EN. She even had this no archive stream the same time at this post where she sang edgy songs pouring her emotions all out on singing. It's sudden and different from her usual schtick.

1 corporation having this much control over an entire field of creative media is not a good thing.

>>289475
More Aki ASMR.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtbRa0Qd5JM

>>296671
Until like just last year, the random nip was more likely to have heard of Nijisanji than Hololive. Even moreso because Ichikara is way better about getting sponsorships/collaborations for their talents. Mito even shilled detergent before.

>>322589
Hololive managers are probably paid a salary and don't benefit monetarily at all from their talents being successful (which probably makes sense since the workload is probably roughly the same, and it's pretty arbitrary which ones end up becoming popular anyway).

It is more or less their only interest for their talent to keep streaming and they have no financial reason to care about anything else.

So in this scenario, if they have the power to control collaborations, why would they let their talent collab with somebody who could potentially get them targeted by a ton of antis? Somebody who is thin-skinned or mentally unstable like Kiara could easily respond very poorly and end up graduating because of something like that, costing the manager their job.

>>282274
based watamate

>>300543
turok 3 was crazy

>>331472
I feel bad for Haachama with this.

>>282578
>Stop being afraid of one another and just collab
this, holy shit. I'm so tired of hearing "ahh it's Sora-senpai, the literal goddess, I hope I can colab with her one day"

>Get gen 4 a real manager
>Make sure your talent actually has the gear they need to perform before they debut
>nuke the zhangs
>If they have to do another no-crowd concert prerecord some applause and call and response shit
>get some real merchandise (figures and dakis)

>>315996
Adding more talents to your hate list doesn't make what you're doing any less obvious

>>290516
Kiara does this iirc

>>322655
Aqua is cute with cat ears.

Gura needs to play some better games, release some sort of project, collab with someone outside EN, fucking SOMETHING. Her growth was and still is kind of insane but it's amazing how she's just sat on her ass and done essentially fuck all with it.

Gura collab with Coco would be huge for both their careers. What the actual fuck is Cover doing, letting them stagnate like this?!

>>349919
I am curious why Gura never collabs with anyone outside of EN, not even ID.

>>350066
>>349919
as far as I know she can't speak shit for japanese, would like to see her get into some golden age rythym games like parappa though. And imagine how many sub leech threads we'd have to deal with if anyone not already in the millionaire club does a collab

>>314015
Announced on his Twitter he was going to Ina's stream, showed up with his entourage and proceeded to shit talk Ina the entire time he was there while jerking himself and his fans off in the chat. After giving out a warning that Jolly in the other E-Celebs ignored, AO-Chan brought down the ban hammer on him. Jolly then went running back to Twitter blaming the Takodachis for it; 'those weebs sure are mad I was in their chat!'. After getting called out about how much of a cunt he was [his words] he then did some damage control [again his words] on his Twitter. Ina didn't directly mention him but the next stream she brought up that she thinks it's very rude to barge into other peoples chats.

It was this and the backseaters during Ame's Witcher stream that made Ina update her chat rules.

>>282080
Stop being afraid of idolfags and let hololive members collab with holostars.

>>350375
There's no rule preventing them for collabing with each other. It's just that many of them on both sides don't want to for either personal reasons (shyness) or because they know they'll lose a significant amount of their fanbase.

>>350542
You don't know that there aren't collab restrictions, because collab permissions are handled by each individual manager. Considering stuff like Minecraft server separations (which even extends to situations like Haachama's with Holo EN), or the change in the rules for that Apex Vtuber tourney (which shows that management got more strict), you can see that management doesn't exactly encourage it. Watame had to ask if she was even allowed to reply to a Holostar's comment on Twitter of all things.
I will say this though: we're not mind readers, so thinking that more Hololive and Holostar members want to collab with each other is an assumption as well.

>>296852
>I dont understand why people want Gura to collab with her jp senseis when she is most eop Hololive en member
Maybe those senpais would like the boost from Gura's chumbuds getting introduced to HoloJP. Ame did the Mel collab and there were a bunch of EOP that didn't even know she was a part of Hololive.

>>315996
>-Coco
>-Haato
>-Nene
Ni hao, muthafucka.

>>322570
This. Notice that there's no HoloEN channel but ID and JP have one. Where are the translated clip for JP fans and animated shorts? They really do treat EN like the branch company.

>>349663
>>328106
Aqua did it specifically to distract you from her onion head.

>>352155
We kind of do, considering there did exist an explicit restriction rule between hololive and holostars in the early days, but that rule was lifted fairly quickly.

The Apex Vtuber tournament thing or the Watame situation aren't from any explicit rules. That's just image protection that's standard in the idol industry. Again, each talent knows what they're selling, they know their fanbase, so they have to weigh their options.

>>352478
What is Watame's image? I don't think she knows what management wants her to be. She obviosly doesn't want to be seiso yet they force that image on her. No oppai mousepad, no male interaction. They just want her to act cute, cry, and sing cover songs.

>>315996
>Choco
Fuck off

>>352478
>The Apex Vtuber tournament thing or the Watame situation aren't from any explicit rules. That's just image protection that's standard in the idol industry.
How is the Apex thing not an explicit rule, when management specifically made it so that the host wouldn't pair up the girls with any guys? All you're saying is that it's a rule for the sake of image protection.

>>352616
>Just want to lick armpits and look up the other girl's skirts
>Manager san says you're too good at singing to join the horny club
Punished Watame

Hololive is an IDOL group, there's thousands of whores you can watch out there if that tickles your fancy, both eastern, western, corporate and indie. But idolCHADs will forever run Hololive, peabrained cucks.