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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*>https://playboard.co/en/>http://ikioi-ranking.com/>https://vrabi.net/>https://www.vstats.jp>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-rankingHololive sites>https://holo.poi.cat/>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html>https://trackholo.live/en/Nijisanji sites>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly>https://twitter.com/2434rankings>https://twitter.com/2434subscriberTwitch>https://sullygnome.com/>https://twitchtracker.com/>https://stats.roki.sh/Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp
* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *>50,041: Marine (Hololive)>46,213: Pekora (Hololive)>42,234: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>34,525: VSPO (VSPO)>34,231: Botan (Hololive)>33,502: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>32,854: Subaru (Hololive)>28,148: Subaru (Hololive)>27,113: Aqua (Hololive)>22,264: Gura (Hololive)>19,403: Ayame (Hololive)>19,089: Salome (Nijisanji)>18,883: Watame (Hololive)>17,838: Miko (Hololive)>16,733: Mumei (Hololive)>15,644: Ririmu (Nijisanji)>15,184: Kanae (Nijisanji)>14,512: Fuwa (Nijisanji)>14,189: Kobo (Hololive)>13,744: Shigure Ui (Indie)>13,467: Fubuki (Hololive)>12,913: Enna (Nijisanji)>11,764: Runa (VSPO)>11,476: Calli (Hololive)>10,933: Lize (Nijisanji)>10,893: Shu (Nijisanji)>10,845: Fauna (Hololive)>10,466: Lui (Hololive)>10,223: Amamiya (Nijisanji)>10,083: Shiina (Nijisanji)>10,053: Hayato (Nijisanji)
A reminder that using "liver" to refer to vtubers is absolutely retarded.
>>32963215* YESTERDAY’S FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*>9/10 Daily Tally22,264: Gura (Hololive)16,699: Mumei (Hololive)12,938: Enna (Nijisanji)11,476: Mori (Hololive)10,881: Shu (Nijisanji)10,828: Fauna (Hololive)8,594: Ina (Hololive)8,230: Millie (Nijisanji)8,126: Uki (Nijisanji)7,207: Mori (Hololive)6,163: Ike (Nijisanji)5,524: Kiara (Hololive)5,476: Enna (Nijisanji)5,401: Selen (Nijisanji)5,371: Pomu (Nijisanji)>EN GOLD SO FAR FOR SEPTEMBER1. Gura (Hololive) - 15,128 (RUST)2. Yugo (Nijisanji) - 21,274 (English Telephone Game)3. Noir (Hololive) - 14,791 (Boomer vs. Zoomer game w/Baelz)4. Gura (Hololive) - 30,762 (Gura's Big Brain Games w/Ollie, Kronii, Ina, IRyS, Mumei, and Baelz)5. Vox (Nijisanji) – 25,137 (Unarchived Karaoke)6. Baelz (Hololive) - 11,711 (Plants vs. Zombies)7. Kiara (Hololive) - 21,528 (Holocure: Save the Fans)8. Baelz (Hololive) - 13,218 (Unarchived Karaoke)9. Ina (Hololive) - 12,053 (RUST)10. Gura (Hololive) - 22,264 (Holocure: Save the Fans)>GOLD PER COMPANYHololive - 8Nijisanji - 2Others - 0>GOLD PER STREAMER3x: Gura2x: Baelz1x: Yugo, Noir, Vox, Kiara, Ina>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)Gura: 15Baelz: 13Vox: 7Mumei: 6Shu: 6Yugo: 5Noir: 5Mysta: 5Kiara: 5Ina: 5Fauna: 4Enna: 4Alban: 3Regis: 3IRyS: 2Amelia: 2
>>32963202Spamming those is what made the boys recline though since it loses its buff the more you spam it. If she's smart she will plan it wisely and not just spam it.
>>32963215/news/ roundup for 10-09-2022>>32889800Recent clip numbers>>32954183>>32954212>>32954740>>32954772
>12 Enna>13 IrysYeah, Irys is clearly no match for Enna anymore. Should be Enna vs Gura now.
>>32963302kys crossposter
>>32963348>Rye got kicked out of EN3 due to one of her fans posting her discord posts>ryeschizo posting them here was the reason why she got kicked out of en3Imagine if your retardation was the cause of your oshi losing her big break
>>32963233SILVER>1) 36,151: Rion (Nijisanji) 3D Stream>2) 31,563: Marine (Hololive) Touhou Project Koumakyou>3) 70,948: Botan (Hololive) New outfit>4) 76,937: Choco (Hololive) 4th Anniversary LIVE>5) 31,040: Marine (Hololive) Horror game*>6) 43,473: Pekora (Hololive) Plants vs. Zombies>7) 70,876: Hololive (Hololive) Hololive production's 5th Anniversary>8) 51,274: Pekora (Hololive) RUST>9) 34,980: Suisei (Hololive) Holocure >10) 46,213: Pekora (Hololive) Holocure> PER COMPANY9x: Hololive1x: Nijisanji> PER STREAMER3x: Pekora2x: Marine1x: Rion, Botan, Choco, Hololive, Suisei
To give context why Enna has 6k for now this month,her streams are ringfit, celebration, horor stream, 2 karaoke, 2 collabs and 2 zatsudan which is her lowest so what she did is what luca and other boys did during may to july
>>32963341kys crossposter
For those who might have missed, here is an update on the usual table>COMBINED TRUE AVERAGE CCV + MEDIAN OF PEAK CCV, SEP 1-10, KAIGAI ONLY, 3 OR MORE STREAMS THIS MONTHHere are some comments* MEDIAN *1) Gura2) Council in general and Bae in particular absolutely overperformed in this metric this month so far, thanks to good choice of entertainment, with the three of them and Gura being the only with a median over 10k3) Vox completes the top 5, failing to beat 10k4) Kobo, Mysta, Ina, IRyS and Shu complete the top 105) Ike is not in a good period, being outranked by Ame and Enna6) Kiara once again failed to hold the line, allowing Enna and Selen to get past her7) Noir and Magni are giving ground, with their medians down ti under 4.5k and below three of the Noctyx boys8) HoloID girls are on fire, with the second to last (Anya) being over 2.3k9) Nari Yang and Mika continue keeping a 1k+ median, the only one in their respective (former) wavesand the punchline10) Enna is showing an absolute sign of incline with her median so far in the month being over 6k, outranking one Luxiem boy and three Myth girls.It might be luck, choice of content or anything else but whatever is going on for her is clearly working* TRUE AVERAGE *1) Gura2) Despite the good peaks, Council girls might suffer from poor retention or outliers pulling their numbers down, as they failed to make the top 5 in the average3) Kobo, OTOH, is #2 in this metric, a testament to her pull4) Vox, Ina and Bae complete the top 55) Noir is steady at a 4k+, keeping it both for his median and for his average.6) Ollie is the lowest ranked HoloID both in median and in average. Clearly need to reinvent herself7) The surviving (former) NijiKR seems to be inclining, with Nari Yang outranking all (former) NijiID and Ha Yun and Na Sera outranking all but Mika8) NijiID; conversely, seems to be stable in their mediocrity, with their second highest ranked (Hana Macchia) being below even MyHoloTV9) Being in the Niji relay doesn't seem to have benefit (former) NijiID in any significant way.and the punchline10) Scarle, Aia *and* Reimu true average dropped below 1k. Definitely not a good sign
>>32963371NTA but>her discord postsWonder if *guitar riff* was already forgotten for retards to do that shit.
>>32963348Is this ai generated or something. It seems off
>>32963233BRONZE>1) 31,878: Miko (Hololive) RUST Season 2 Finale [17]>2) 31,244: Kobo (Hololive) Valorant [15]>3) 43,980: Marine (Hololive) MariFure Offcollab Rhythm Tengoku [26]>4) 37,932: Subaru (Hololive) Persona 4 Golden #10 [27]>5) 28,969: Kanata (Hololive) Uma Musume [17]>6) 41,504: Toya (Nijisanji) Konnichiwa [22]>7) 35,036: Subaru (Hololive) NamaSubaru [25]>8) 41,292: Miko (Hololive) RUST [24]>9) 24,931: Polka (Hololive) RUST>10) 42,234: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) Splatoon 3> PER COMPANY8x: Hololive2x: Nijisanji> PER STREAMER2x: Subaru, Miko1x: Kobo, Marine, Kanata, Toya, Kuzuha, Polka
Why is this idiot pumping out covers left and right? She's not Okayu or the 1st army singers who can get 1million guaranteed Jesas>Laplus1st coverhttps://youtu.be/RALRXQWW3Cs2nd coverhttps://youtu.be/RALRXQWW3CsIn just one week
>>32963422Do you have the JP list anon?
>>32963371>EN3Why are you people still harping on about this? It's effectively deconfirmed now. 9 month "open auditions" + a random audition page reset is a clear signal that they don't plan on debuting anyone new ever.
>>32963233>SEPTEMBER 2022 GOLDS1) Pekora (Hololive) - 54,023 - Rust2) Ayame (Hololive) - 47,845 - Return stream3) Ayame (Hololive) - 118,899 - 4th anniversary 3D live4) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 87,145 - New outfit reveal5) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,743 - Dragon Quest Monsters6) Marine (Hololive) - 45,140 - Super Smash Bros Ultimate7) Sora (Hololive) - 84,063 - 5th anniversary 3D live8) Botan (Hololive) - 81.036 - Birthday 3D stream9) Miko (Hololive) - 39.905 - Holocure10) Marine (Hololive) - 50.041 - Holocure>PER COMPANY9x: Hololive1x Nijisanji>PER STREAMER2x: Ayame, Marine, Pekora1x: Botan, Fuwa, Miko, Sora>2022 GOLDS>PER COMPANY160x: Hololive83x: Nijisanji6x: Neo Porte3x: Indie1x: Kizuna AI Inc.>PER STREAMER32x: Pekora16x: Aqua, Kuzuha, Salome15x: Miko9x:Nijisanji, Subaru8x: Marine6x: Hal, Hololive5x: Kanata, Mio, Toya4x: Flare, Gura, Noel, Okayu, Suisei, Towa3x: Ayame, Chloe, Choco, Fuwa, Mayuzumi, Polka2x: Ange, Botan, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Maimoto, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Shion, Sora1x: AI, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Natsume, Nene, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta
>>32963460Its here or her rm channel what do u want
>>32963302what are you talking about, it worked great for nina
Tempus was a mistake
>>32961916do you have something like this for last month?
Absolute kek!https://twitter.com/gawrgura/status/1568409904985305089
>>32963493Why are you people still harping on about this? It's effectively confirmed now. 9 month "open auditions" + a random audition page reset is a clear signal that they already found the talents and are planning to debut them in october.
So who in Myth would have to graduate for them to be superior to Council again? I'd imagine it's between Kiara, Mori, and Ame.
>>32963493>spamming this 16 hrs a daykys
>>32963513Fuck you
Someone made a thread about us, numberbros
list of the dead/dying indies/small corpos>RyeProject https://twitter.com/RyeProject>Fen Riru https://twitter.com/fenriruvt>Sylvia Sorano https://twitter.com/sylviasorano>Castella Inomori https://twitter.com/CastellaInomori>Melonbread https://twitter.com/melonbread_69>Raina Chiwawa https://twitter.com/RaniaChiwawa>Usami https://twitter.com/usami_vt>Aozora Kurumi https://twitter.com/AozoraKurumi **places to end up for these girls include>NijisanjiEN wave 7 if dual wave with Iluna exists>HoloEN3 which has been running 'open auds' all year so far>Tsunderia auditions entered "second stage" on Aug 27th low likelihood for some of these girls now>idol corp which had auds end at the end of July** RRAT: Aozora Kurumi is reincarnating into Indie vtuber Auregalia Aruri
Streams with over 2 million VOD viewsNoel 9 (all zatsudans)Marine 0Noel is the REAL zatsudan queen of Hololive
>>32962544Who made it cry?
>>32963533Nigga u responding to a terminally here and ill shitposter
>>32963502>it worked great for ninaactually nospamming it without any plan caused her recline
>>32963491>Do you have the JP list anon?Yes, it usually follows. Stay tuned for a few posts
>>32963417Dont forget about the handcams
>>32963564MOSTINFL-yeah you get the gist
>>32963422>holos who collab with males is actually incline
>>32963590LMAO
>>32963615>spamming it without any plan caused her reclineAre you 100% sure that the reason for the decline?
>>32963422>It might be luckThe only lucky thing is that you're a dumbass and counting it when she benefits the most from it.
>>32963564>MOST
>>32962544Someone is shitting on us at catalog
>>32963691>actually inclineKys ESL homobeggar
>>32963700spamming buff shit all the time always leads it to losing its buff status anon
>>32963590>>32963728I won't click your bait thread, faggot
>>32963691>incline>kobo is below 10k now>kobo is below vox now
>>32962473JRPG is popular in Japan, there is an entire generation grew up playing them back from all 80s until it went recline in 2000s when they had to compete with modern platforms. Dragon Quest is one of the oldest and most popular series in all of them. Given HoloJP's number on JRPG I believe there is a large proportion of HoloJP fanbase coming from millennial generation sine they are extremely familiar with these type of games.
https://youtu.be/vpsqPb0_GrEJesus
>>32963422>StarsEN bleeding numbers right after the femal collabsKekI knew it, A lot of their fans are unityfags and beggars who fuck off after every collab since they think that their work is done.
JWU, fuck why did I overslept. How was LInglan Lily's debut? What was the peak ccv? I want to know how many mindless chink simps are there for this bitch.
>>3296386829k on playboard but 30k on screenshot
>>32963846yeah that seems to be the casei feel like with each female collab their audience will actually get smaller and smaller
>>3296386830k
>>32963422Glad vesper is doing great. I dont have much feelings for the rest of the branch besides Axels covers which are fantastic so far.
>>32963513Cumpedos will let that slide.
>>32963896Oh well can't beat Gura's big brain game huh. Sucks that she debut during the reschedule of Gura's game.
>>32963422holy shit tempus actually reclined after the female collabs while bae actually inclined kek
>>32963790
>>32963898So for unicorns to get what they want, Tempus has to collab with the girls more. I love the irony of this.
>>32963995ina?
>>32963422And for the complete>MEDIAN OF PEAK CCV, SEP 1-10, 3 OR MORE STREAMS THIS MONTHtable, here is the top 50Some comments1) Current composition of the top 50 is 31 Holos (6 EN, 1 ID), 13 Nijis (3 ENs), 2 VSPO (Nose and Hinano), Reid for Neo Porte, Met for 774 Inc. and Gatchman and NeruMeru for Indies.2) Marine and Pekora are in a bitter fight for supremacy, both keeping a 40k+ median so far this month3) Kuzuha is getting back to his competitive state, with a 30k+ median4) Ayame woke up from her slumber and has five (5) streams, and a median close to 30k so far5) Miko, Subaru, Botan (!), Suisei and Gura complete the 20k+ club6) 27 channels have a 10k+ median, including Choco (!), Bae, Fauna and Mumei7) Met made it into the top 50, a clear incline from her usual resuilts8) Gatchman is the highest ranked indie, with NeruMeru, taking advantage of the new Genshin characters, being #29) Koyori, despite having 16 streams this month, still keeps a very high median with 13.7+and the punchline10) Salome dopped off of select club of 20k+ median this month, with a recline showing no signs of stopping
>>32964072Well he's counting ps02 sponsorship collab with shien
>>32963995>inaVoicing a promotional ad together for a game collab still doesn’t count because there isn’t any real interaction there
>>32963995>Inakek
>>32963995>kobo>already below 10k after male collab even with all the buff stuff she didfucking grim
>>32964072
>>32964080SALOME
>>32964149>>32964108so dumb
>>32963995>not including mori
>>329640807.5k for the matsuri line
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuC6gpK5g2wLuna newest viral clip
>>32963422I take it this was done right before Gura's stream last night? It seems like the only streams accounted for are the Rust finale, Holocure and the original school stream since I refuse to believe Gura has a 16k average when she has 2 streams this month over 30k peak and last night averaged over 28k
>>32964080Graduate everyone below 10k median. I guess it's the mumei line now.
>>32964080Botan and Goob promoted to 1st Army?
>>32964197Slut, who the fuck is Harley Davidson
>>32963995>Baelzwas already a know stars collaber>Everyone else who suddenly collabed with males along with the males reclinedlol will never not be funny
>>32964132the game she's playing is not a buff for ID audiencethe only buff game she's playing recently was only re8
>>32963460she hate live streamshe is more recorded chuuba
so did reddit duck win? im i going to get my subalewds?
Ahh just done some quick archive rep of the last thread. Seems like not many people know why Linglan Lily is that popular, myself included, other than that she can sing. The box is unironically evil and killed Cloud Horizon its previous company. It is the equivalent of something like, if the gamers gen decided to quit Cover, went to form another company themselves including all the assets and some of the management, totally kills it momentum before it can debut 2nd gen.
>>32964240https://streamable.com/bii59v
>>32964160True, homobeggar really think sponsorship counts as male collab
>>3296408031 Hololive13 Niji2 VSPO2 Indie1 Neo-Porte1 774
>>32964244me
>>32964080Aqua doko? She had 3 streams right? Comeback stream, shill stream, and Karaoke stream
>>32964080Wait how come enna is not in this tally? I thought she was above irys?fucking rigged
>>32964353copeyour oshi interacted with malesshe's not pure anymore
>>32964342No seriously, shouldn't they qualify?
>>32964333I know there are a lot of drama behind her but her chat seems fine?
>>32964422Go suck a dick if you like males so much, homobeggar.
does subaru still have gold or did one of the chinks take it
>>32964237On 2nd thought graduate everyone that doesn't have 10k in both categories + bae
>>32964396Anon... First two were last month.
>>32964469CCCCOOOPPPPEEEEINA IS A WHORE NOW ACCEPT IT
>>32964276Also, college/uni just started here, which might've affected her numbers.
>>32964469you know, some of them have male manager?
>>32964478Subaru has 36k, z 38k, the chink got 30k
>>32964521Mel...
>>32964521before mel yesafter mel no
>>32964506Nope, some of the games that she pick this month was pure garbage
https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/xbg8aj/ame_uses_a_korean_translator/Look at what's the top post on LSF kek
>>32964401>I thought she was above irys?Not in the median, she's not
>>32964478>>32964540Out for a golden duck!
>>32964566dyrbi?
>>32964506>school starting>waste her numbers by collabing with malespretty sadshe might go below 8k next month
>>32964595>holoEN>failingname a more iconic duo
>>32964396Your calendar reps, anon....
>>32964630i believe the people working there than some random anon here yes
>>32964630That anon is just a retard or a fucking EOP because matsuri had talked something about male manager before.
>>32963422do you have the YTD of this? Or at least start of year to end of august?
>>32964521>some of them have male managerThey also have (or had ar some point) a father, a grandfather, likely classmates and even boyfriends.Very few people give a fuck about what the meatspace puppet operator has in their personal lives, as long as it doesn't leak into their streams
>>32964595>LSF
Most probably Subaru will hold the top place.
>>32964704>do you have the YTD of this? Or at least start of year to end of august?Yes, it was even posted recently,. I might post an up to date version for it.Keep lurking this thread, this table (and their many variations in time and selection of channels) get posted every week or so
fuwa gold, yeah?
entries are closed now. Shuba confirmed gold
It seems that Risu is aware about ARS and is brave enough to make fun about that non red ARS supa.
https://youtu.be/DRGrBRw8wgwNijiGold
>>32964444No. Botan is relying on buff games/FPS Collab too much while gura doesn't stream enough. I still can't understand why Aqua is in there either. Maybe JOPs are too enamored with Apex or something, because otherwise she's no better than Ayame or Kanata
>>32964453Chinese people, or generally non-burger humans, have very little brand loyalty. They won't weep when a company goes under because of their workers, they will only be mad if the company tried to scam its employees instead.
>>32963995it's almost as if male collabs by themselves have nothing to do with numbers
>>32964639anon, she'll go below 8k if she's not collabing with males
>>32964789fucking kek
>>32964777Not yet for the ongoing streams. A magical surge may happen, but it is usually a wrap during this time.
Isn't 2k too high for Risu zatsudan
>>32964080Matsuri in the top 50 aaaaaaa
Chloe/Marine Clubhouse 51 on Friday, decent gold contender
>>32964865She's singing.
Final numbers on Holostars EN memberships?
>>32964812Yeah the male collabs havent affected the girls from what i cant tell although its a different story on the boys side since they seem to be slowly reclining every after female collabs.I wonder if its is unity/collab fags like that one anon is saying or the drama and spam that are turning people off from them.
>>32964894>no singing titlehow dumb she is
>>32964893>chloe>goldehhhhhhhh we'll see
>>32964132>literally number 2
>>32964080So what's going to be the new Ayame line if she becomes a regular streamer again?
>>32964444A 10 day window isn't representative, are you fucking stupid?
>>32964909Nowa got like 3k memberships, Magni got around 1.8k-2k ish altogether and Regis/Axel both hit over 1k
>>32964893Huh?? ? Friday is subaru 3d live vs kuzuha tourney
>>32964937>already below vox
>>32964823I mean, the superchat paid using Argentinian currency but the content is in pure Indonesian.
>>32964932>bites your nuts off
How do we save nijisanji?
>>32964910>the male collabs havent affected the girls from what i cant tellThe wouldn't, for as much as people made it a battlefield Uncle Nowa was DEAD RIGHT when he said>a streamer lives and dies by his solo contentAme, Calli and Kiara having bad numbers have ZERO to do with their choices of collabs (or lack thereof) and 100% to do with their choice of content.
>>32964893Gold if Marine CH
>>32964909
>>32964946Gura
>>32964893Damn a schedule from JP. I thought HoloX stopped doing that few months after debut?
>>32964932welcome to hololive debuff central
>>32964080> Botan 26k> Lamy 10kgen5 schizo in shambles
>>32964946>So what's going to be the new Ayame line if she becomes a regular streamer again?I got kneecapped on that and on the "Sana line" too, as Ayame is back into streaming (maybe) and Kiara line is actually "Kiara sieve"
>>32964997Axe...
>>32965004Lapu...
>>32964946Depends on the content and the time she streams
>>32964910reclining after debut buff is expectedthe problem is they did not gain any new audience since they keep collabing with holoen
>>32963987>holy shit tempus actually reclined after the female collabs while bae actually inclined kekRrat's inclline over the last month was more because of stream choices and hosting large collabs.
>>32964969I though indonesia already had superchats enabled? Is the superchatter just a huge cheapskate then?
Good thing Fuwa did not Z near his peak.
>>32964791i dunno mang, this looks like it could slip
>>32964984I completely agree but its totally different in the boys side since they seem to be losing numbers every after female collabs and none of their content is are neutral and sometimes mini buffs.It seems that the boys having a sizable unity/beggar audience that fucks off after every collab theory is getting stronger by each day
oh shit risu sing nier song
>>32965127weight of the world?
>>32963995https://youtu.be/S73htqUJGC8Update this shit retard. Gura has been on a stream with a male before
>>32965096yes, ars is still far cheaper
>>32965177IDR is funnier
>>32964080How do we save council and luxiem?
Will kiara even get 20k for her 12hr stream seems impossible desu
>>32965169yea, the jp ver
Can Korone still climb by 10k in 45 minutes to get a bronze or silver? I think it is impossible.Also 99.99% chance of Subaru's gold today.
>>32964997Not sure why you crossed out Magni's other stream. He picked up another 200 members off it
>>32965192Even fauna didn't get 20k. What makes u think the runt of holoEN can do better?
>>32964080I find that both Marine and Suisei kept their median high by not streaming daily, probably 2 to 3 streams per week, and by streaming their own buffs and only buffs. I've seen Suisei's floor by her Tales of Arise stream, but it is hard to know Marine's floor because she never take sponsorship.
>>32965192She should have avoided the euro hour. Just start from burger time to jp primetime.
>>32963995CCV Median Comparison august to september Collab with males>Kobo 10158(aug) > 9476(sept) RECLINE>Ame 5973(aug) < 6206(sept) INCLINE> Bae 7399(aug) < 10843(sept) INCLINE> Ina 9817(aug) > 8810(sept) RECLINE No collab with males>Kiara 5065(aug) > 4681(sept) RECLINE>Fauna 11098(aug) > 10406(sept) RECLINE>Irys 9121(aug) > 7641(sept) RECLINE
>>32965201nice. My fav song is this thoughhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jna9bvhdRE
>>32965071>reclining debut buffdebut buff expired a long time ago anon and that time nowa was around 4.7k median peak and now its 4.3k. and there are signs that its gonna go lower. the funny thing is that the recline actually started happening after the mori collab.
>>32965243The timezone doesnt matter, no one want to watch her
Liz still winning gold even after she graduated, sugoi
>>32965259So you're saying his viewers defected to mori?
>>32965125they probably also lost many "no girls allowed" viewers, with how they went balls deep in collabs from week 3 going forward.
>>32965246So the holos who have a history with male collabs before tempus incline while those without reclined huh
>>32965272this is true, I am waiting for the collabs
I hope the collab with m*les debate is not instigated by NijiEN residents. I mean>32963704>32963471
LIZ GOLD?
When will nijisanji release a blue flat liver? They have to be aware of Cover's winning strategy.
>>32965342POST LIZE
>>32965246>Ina>Ignore MoriFucking retard
>>32965246All this tells me is that homobeggers stopped watching people that wont collab
>>32965246>>Irys 9121(aug) > 7641(sept) RECLINEoofwhat happened with irys?
>>32962867To Holo regulars she comes off as a bit of a bitch : https://files.catbox.moe/hk96am.webmHolofags will never watch chuubas who shit on their own audience.
>>32965286She was basically the last vestige of OG West. It will only be decline after decline after this.
>>32965363Started streaming regularly instead of using the niji break meta
>>32965289more like those that went away went back to the girls box since in their mind the job was done. Im sure the ones left are hoping for a Gura/Fauna collab since i see the same names in Guras and Faunas chat who always try to namedrop tempus each chance they get. Im actually curious how much of a bleed they will have after a collab with gura or fauna.
>>32965289Not really, viewers that really want to see holoen girl boy collab and after seeing it, they fuck off
>>32965360They both reclined. Wont make a difference
>>32965363She doesn't stream a lot so her numbers are all over the place every month
>>32965331desu I refuse to believe there is a significant number of people who are genuinely upset about male collabs. There are, but It's mostly going to be just the usual shitposters and jealous faggots
>>32965369>Holofags will never watch chuubas who shit on their own audience.ame...
>>32964080And here is the >1k pluscut of the table1) 207 channels made the cut, including 21 from Brave Group (3 Aogiri, 2 Riot Music), 6 from 774 Inc., 4 from Neo Porte, 4 from .LIVE, 2 from NoriPro, and one of each GuildCG, VShojo, Virtual Cinderela Project, Enoechi Production, WACTOR, Propro and Sinsogumi2) Lowest HoloJP is Mel with a 3831 median3) No VSPO failed to make the cut4) One NijiEN failed to make the cut (Aia)5) Rosemi outranked kson6) Mea and Roberu are in adjacent positions, both with 1.6k+ medians7) Shiro of "Sora's Christmas Miracle" holds a 1.5k+ median8) Only Tentei Forte and Hizuki Yui, from NeoPorte new debuts, made the cut9) Virtual Obachan outranked Pomu, Mel, Patra, Kaela and Eliraand the punchline10) Roberu outranked Aster, one of the iLUNA boys (and also Scarle and Aia)
>>32965352https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVrEUkdgt38?
>>32965369>Holofags will never watch chuubas who shit on their own audience.A-Ame....
>>32965369Women would love those kinds of talks, making fun of ugly males while salivating on Luxiem.Idk about Enna but the PL Millie also talks shit on her audience but she also receives abuse so all is fair for her.
>>32965414I'd say that they are, but the majority is silent.
>>32965246>Includes Ina for some reason>Doesnt include Mumei
>tempiss recliningyou guys are a bunch of retards. it's omegay slowly turning off the bots to make it look like they are finding their core audience.fite me.
>>32965331I cant see the posts what is it?
>>32965369i watched a clip from the one on the left about the time in HS a female classmate tried to rape her, honestly her talking voice is fucking grating, people that deflect that being holocucks or whatever are the asme as kfp that defend kiara and shit on people that hate her voice by saying they are homobeggars.
>>32965435>6) Mea and Roberu are in adjacent positions, both with 1.6k+ mediansThat is what she gets for pandering to the chink. Then again some of her numbers are in bilibili anyway.
>>32965468>>32965424Goslings...
>>32965454That's a pre-boom liver. Also, wrong shade of blue.
>>32965414Im honestly not upset im just curious since the reclining after male collab thingy seems to have affected the males more than the females.
>>32965369>Holofags will never watch chuubas who shit on their own audience.but that's not a good example thoollie shitting on her audience was a good onehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbyQaZZMDkM
>>32965435>Mea and Roberu are in adjacent positions, both with 1.6k+ mediansEven in numbers they are inseparable... someone, please save my son...
>>32965550There is no relation. The boys "recline" is actually "coming out of their debut buff", and there is no incline or recline for the girls correlated with collabs with males so far.
>>32965299That not the point of tempus there bro tubers. There what this board been screaming for since it birth. Brotubers when but once they got them nobody showed up to watch them. Plus fans are actually attacking their main growth source by pretty much backstabbing any female talent that collabs with them. The biggest mistake holopro can make is allowing tempus to become like stars jp were male and female are to separate which pretty much killed holo jp growth. They pulled out all the stops for uproar from billboards to an fucking limo yet there fucking flops. Stars en need to become a part of the holo en box not saying to have daily collabs with them but having an big stars en and holo en group collab once an month would help both groups out greatly and bond while not becoming like nijisanji en which many people fear.
>>32965567>Holofags will never watch chuubas who shit on their own audience.and that proves to be the case seeing how ollie reclined after that
>>32965369*checks on Enna doxx*hmm. she doesn't look like someone who says that. Maybe being a Vtuber changed that. Is she chinese or Japanese? she looks more like a jap desu. btw fuck word filters
>>32965286why the fuck is it a black truck? Can't they get something better for it? Like, horses pulling a carriage with her coffin or something.
Oh polka's streamin'
the cripple gold horseraces are going to be really boring once holoEN finishes crashing and burning. it'll just be luxiem getting gold every single day. who is going to compete with them? phase connect? kawaii?
>>32965286>Below Melissa's graduationmeh
>>32965599Chink
I really do not believe in the male collab recline theory. It purely depends on how you built your fanbase.But I believe in the viewer transfer theory. Like what happened to Luxiem and Shoto. The better chuuba sucks the viewers out of the weaker chuubs.
>>32965599>Is she chinese or Japanese?
>>32965587>coming out of their debut buffthe debut buff wore off a long time ago since they were already stablizing before the female collabs though. the recline happened after the female collabs which is interesting since some anons pointed out even before the collab that either unity/collab fags or female unicorns will fuck off if the boys do collab with the girls which seems to be the case.
This must be the first Risu stream I've checked in as a tourist that didn't make me change channels immediately because of the scuffed audio
>>32965592Cry more homobeggars. Holos and Homos do well separately.
>>32965592>would help both groups out greatlykek, that's not what the rest of your post imply at all.You'll be hard pressed to describe the upside for the girls because they would benefit a whole lot more from tightening their bonds to the JP branch
>>32965414Hololive viewers watch hololive, the all-female branch, for the girls. They don't watch holostars, and they don't watch male-female collabs. This is sustainable as long as there is enough female-only content, but if you tip the scales too much they will either drop hololive or start complaining. If you believe it's not like this you are delusional.
>>32964997How is this compared to ILuna?
>>32965661>>32965640I see. She kinda looks like a female version of Mag Irl. lmao.
>>32965234Marine admitted that she obsessed with "making her stand out" meaning she won't stream if there is no special content. You can only see her lowest at c-part which is 9k - 10k.
>>32965550Holo watchers gave a chance to the homos now after collab with the girls they won't give them a chance anymore.
>>32965600She went half the way across Scotland today, if it was being pulled by horses it would've taken a week
>>32965663>the debut buff wore off a long time agoNo it didn't? They're barely out of their first "monthversary" and, given the novelty of the "male EN branch", they got lots of people giving them a chance but not committing
>>32965550Well so far this month ame, calli and kroniis medians are the lowest they have ever been. The only exception is bae and kronii doesn't have many streams so I guess we will see how it plays out
>>32965664japanese mic, pls andastand
>>32965592>but once they got them nobody showed up to watch themNigger they destroyed all sane expectations of how a homo branch would do, with fucking debuff models, within their first week of debut.People DID show up to watch them. If they can't keep them, it's on them for not being entertaining enough.Nowa oji has zero trouble with this.And even blue boy is finding his rhythm.
>>32965701Kek no wonder she got along with Pekora on the numberfag department
>>32965592>That not the point of tempus there bro tubersFor me and a lot of people it was. People watch brotubers because they dont have digusting females destroying the community. The moment they collabed with them im sure some including myself fucked off after that.
>>32963422I'll keep saying it but average is a garbage stat and you need to stop posting it. The reasons for this have been discussed endlessly and yet you keep posting it.Yes, peak median has its issues (Raids, Z's, etc.) but it gives you a much better picture of a vtubers audience than average which is flawed in so many ways.
>>32965594She didn't realise how big her ID-only audience was. She must be crying herself to sleep when she sees Kobo's numbers.
>>32964080>Three Council above Luxiem
>>32965731you're going to keep doing this until their 1 year anniversary and beyond, aren't you?
>>32965701Well then if we only judge part C then her number is not that great. It is not the main content so I don't want to use that metric. In comparison, Pekora has a floor of at least 20k now with shitty game like DQMJ and Cull of the Lamb but her part C only have 15k to 18k.
>>32965766Just ignore and scroll past it.
>>32965592dude i like tempus but the actual fuck are you saying, you basically wanna burn the idol part folo holo and the bro part for stars to make a comedy/slice of life with a bunch people not really that talented and without the sexual innuendos of niji, so basically destroy the whole english branch.
>>32965286Operation Unicorn is a go go go go go!
>>32965747don't et it wrong. Marine is an average 20k + streamer. Her floor might be 15k though. But that would depend on overlap
>>32965731Cope is real.
>>32965731But they did though they already stabilized before the female collabs with nowa doing regular 4.8k-5k streams. It was only after they collab with the girls that there was a sizable decline especially magni
>>32965766Both have flaws so why does it matter they both get posted anyway
>>32964080How do we save luxiem???
>>32965578After today’s collab, I don’t think roberu minds staying by mea’s side anymoreIn fact, he seems to enjoy her company more than anyone else’s
>>32965774That is not how you do it. It should be>Gura in top 10>no Council member in top 20Council really doesn't do as well as they expected huh. They hate Fungus because he told the truth.
>>32965617Lose everydayStill being shameless
>>32965731>they got lots of people giving them a chance but not committingso like this anon then >>32965755
Bots powering down.
>>32965592>become like stars jp were male and female are to separate which pretty much killed holo jp growthjesus are homobeggars this stupid and delusional? feels like this whole things is a ploy to undermine hololive for some reason
>>32965255This one is great yeah. But the amusement park OST is still giving me the same chills than they did when I first played the game. That one and Simone's
>>32965849That daph collab hit him pretty hard
>>32965592They gonna die slowly and its the fault of the homobeggars. Should have listen to their advise to themselves that vtubers live or die on their solo content.
>>32965652>The better chuuba sucks the viewers out of the weaker chuubs.So the viewers just returned to the females then
tempiss recline oh noiluna still full of shittersEN bros what now
>>32965683Holo en get an lot more people to collab with and more content they can't do as just girls. Imagine an gura and magni collab these two are pretty much the same person both love warrior cat likes pony. The shit would be hilarious and it would allow for new content ideas. Such as bae zoomer vs boomer on a larger scale like we could have Ame hold an boys vs girl competition where they go head to head in various games to see the winner. The ideas are endless and there no downside plus there plenty of sponsorships that want both males and females so there another us right there. If anything whoever in charge of hololive should start forceing these collabs to try to get holostar in the box cause right now their collab partner list is short as hell. Cause they collab with the girl some lunatics throw an fit, they try to collab with outsiders which pretty much just indies, and twitch and depening on the person people throw a fit. The easy choice is to put stars in the en box.
Looks like EN are reclining from both sides of the field. Feels good to be a JP chad
Wait did we win against /vsj+/ yesterday ? I fall asleep at the NijiID match
>>32965774Damn Luxiem really is trashThey can't even beat the "failure" they keep taling aboutRiku should just graduate them all
>>32965972>an lot
>>32965972>. Imagine an gura and magni collab these two are pretty much the same person both love warrior cat likes pony.Except Fauna literally does both so she doesn't actually need Magni. Even fucking Mori likes Warrior cats.
>>32966002go back to sleep
>>32965920I dropped him after that, if you want some anecdotal data.
>>32965686>Hololive viewers watch hololive, the all-female branch, for the girls.This is true>They don't watch holostars, and they don't watch male-female collabs.This is debatable>This is sustainable as long as there is enough female-only contentAnd there is not
>>32965925>They gonna die slowly and its the fault of the homobeggars.Thats honestly the reason why im pushing for more collabs since they seem to recline every after female collabs while the females are not affected especially those that have collabed with stars before tempus
>>32966024I think almost all the girls that played the cat game talked about warrior cats
>>32965697Kek she actually looks like a female magniI shall now use this knowledge everytime the enna schizo appears
>>32966017Management already wasted too much resources to favor them
>>32965925I am betting management wants something like Roberu's Nightmea on the EN side to blossom. Given the english clips views of the duo were good.
>>32965920Was it really that bad?
>>32965900Because it is. That post is subtle enough that people were responding to it, and people just somehow don't know where the deception is. Brotubers don't need to collab with females to be brotubers, but that poster trying to imply that it is the core of what brotuber should do by saying that people undermining their brotuber effort by "backstabbing the girls who are collabing with them". Neither of the statement is true as stated in my reasoning above, and the second part is not true because fans did not backstab, they confront the girls.And of course>feels like this whole things is a ploy to undermine hololive for some reasonBecause it is. Pic related.
>>32965932nah they probably returned to anime-binging or fleshtuber, that's the real disgrace.holoen and starsen have basically no overlap in boxes, even for tourist. they just had to keep between themselves few week more for those 10k+ homotourist to be integrated in the box. and the kronii debacle only exacerbated the spirits.thanks mori i guess.
>>32965791No, that was number when she overlapping with other Holos. Unlike Pekora her c-part can last over 1 hour or more. Only her can keep 9k people watching c-part in prime timeslot. Any other Holos doing the same thing would go straight down to 2k - 3k.
>>32966103I'm a /mans/ regular but can confirm that the daph collab is horrible. I'd rather rewatch the magni and mori collab.
>>32965972If you want to get any more (You)s from me by writing subversive homobegging paragraphs then you will have to improve your English. It is almost unreadable at this point.
Oh hey, Gura hit podium. Nice. But also slow day
I guess it is Shuba's win.Long-shot contenders Korone and Fuwa are wrapping up and Pekora is done playing.Pekora silver and then Gura bronze with the 112 ccv gap in vrabi and 202 ccv at vstats.Gura wins both the EN and Gaijin tallies.
>>32965972>lets remove that only thing that makes hololive unique and stand out in favor of propping up failures and weak links that can't incline by themselves for a risky chance of it being good content despite they could always do the same thing with fellow hologirls like what they have been doing all this timeall of this garbage just to say you dont like hololive nor understand it. you really should go watch nijisanji instead
>>32966122>holoen and starsen have basically no overlap in boxesI actually see a lot of the homofans in gura and fauna streams who try to namedrop stars every chance they get so there might be some overlap. thats why im in the unity/beggar audience is the majority of the audience rrat camp
>>32966168A fucking monkey
>>32965972Sorry anon, your poor command of the english language turned me completely off. Sorry for your loss or something
>>32965972Do you hate australiens?
I swear I've seen 15 different posts all trying to make shit up about Tempus and their numbers. It's the weirdest shit ever. They have practically the same CCV and same views as they did a month ago, yet people are on this path of spewing rrat after rrat. The most blatant one people keep saying is Magni collabing with Daph. This is arguably the stupidest one pedaled here and I have full confidence this is Niji fans trying to stir shit.Magni has literally only had 4 streams after that, with 2 being the membership opening stream and the other the surprise collab. His other 2 streams were WWE which hit 4.9k and fucking Splatoon, which he made $600 off of. There is zero, ZERO evidence that it did anything to him yet people just keep continuously trying to grasp at something.Face it. Iluna flopped and their numbers are in the shitter. Start targeting them instead you Niji fucks
>>32966202>There is zero, ZERO evidence that it did anything to himYet.
>>32966202>They have practically the same CCV and same views as they did a month agoIn a couiple of months the "line chart" anon will post their 30 days evolution and it will become clearer
>>32966168YAB. Cumpscare inbound!!
>>32966202>Homobeggar copeIt’s over. Accept it
>>32965972I agree with the statement however I think tempus should leave the hololive girls alone. Holopro should debut a new branch of girls and guys called something like HoloUnite their neither hololive or holostars. Their primary task is an content creators and pretty much designed girls that tempus could interact with without backlash. This would give them advantage over the competing vtuber company by making an male and female idol group that still uses hololive brand.
>>32966202>trying to make shit up about Tempus and their numbers>when the median tally clearly shows that they reclined>when suspiciously that recline started after mori collab
>>32965999It's comfy. Vtubing conquered japanese internet content creation so well. That's impossible for EN with is mature and much older streaming culture.
>>32966092They have to venture on the small corpo and indies scene, then.
Do not destroy what made Hololive special
Every single holocure VOD from yesterday has been culled by 5-10k views almost at the same time and only the holocure VODs
>>32966054>This is debatableIt isn't. We can look at Stars' subscriber counts, VOD views, CCV, it's a fraction of what Hololive gets. Whatever crossover there is, it's not as great as you imagine it to be. Remember that Stars also has viewers who don't watch Hololive. And my third point is also correct. Maybe if Hololive was always a mixed sex group they would've pulled it off, but if they pivoted now it would tank their viewership.
Gura as usual in a tier of her ownDamn luxiem must be really dead to have 3 council above themIt's not even a particularly strong month for council other than baeFauna and mumei have been doing alot of shill and neutral streams this monthHow do we save luxiem? And more importantlyHow do we save the rest of myth?
>>32966227>YetFuck off retard. He just got 1500+ members and a full line of merch. If he didn't get affected then, he's not getting affected later
I CAN'T WAIT TO POST MY LEWDS! TALLYANON HURRY THE FUCK UP!
>>32965774Grim
>>32966202How do you explain the difference in gifted between Magni and the rest of tempus?
>>32966182dude i'm talking about graph with several thousands viewers that even after being prompted don't move at all in other streams inbetween audiences, while you are citing about "plenty homobeggars" while we are talking about what? 100 people asking on a 10k+ audience? that's 1%. being VERY generous
>>32966202Iluna performed worse than tempus after their debut buffs wore out, right?
Rewatching Gura's VOD, I realized there were actually 4 months with 30 days in a year and I thought it had 5 too. How would I know July had a 31st day, I thought it was 31,30,31,30,31,30... July and August has 31, and December and January has 31. Damn..
predictions for Kiara's peak? 14k during the collab?
>>32966062Get out homobeggar.Ame didn't collab yet so we didn't see any numbers yet and Kronii didn't have data yet since she is on her break. Those two are the only EN worth check in this collabs.Holo fans already knew that Bae and Mori gonna collab its just that Mori gonna be more of the target since she would be the one to initiate the collabs.
>>32966139Fair point. Probably because her fans want to hear about her more. Did she read superchat? Pekora's part C rarely lasts more than 30 minutes now because she streams almost daily and usually the main content is 2-3 hours, and she doesn't read superchat most of the time, which is a shame but we can get more info about her life than Marine due to how frequent she streams. Sorry I can't use other holomem as comparison because I don't watch them as regularly.
>>32966305dude iluna died in a week at this point they can only incline
>>32966251>Holopro should debut a new branch of girls and guys called something like HoloUniteAfter the disaster that was iluna i doubt cover or anycolor will be dumb enough to debut a girl and guy wave/genalso mixed gender stuff always goes bad in the long run since ship fags will always ruin the dynamic. a good example was what that anon from a month ago said when jsclatt and minx tried to do an offcollab which ended in drama from their fanbases.
>>32966269Well some viewers from marine, to botan, then to pekora and then watame. Youtube being dumbass once again
>>32966254Yes anon, they've cleared reclined. That's why yesterday they were getting 90-100% participation in polls within 2 minutes. Wonder where we've seen that before...Also, Vesper got nearly 3k members and had picked out amazon items to purchase on stream. One of them was literally a $3500 Tungston cube. He bought a $2k tablet to draw on. How the fuck are you going to say that's "reclined" The guy is clearly thriving.
>>32965435And here is the full table. The only noticeable thing is the grim state of SONYtubers at the bottom of the table.Other than that, not a lot of change from previous months
>>32966335She didn't even fucking peak with a collab with kobo in indo primetime, I can maybe see her get 10k. It's so fucking weird Fauna was above 10k for the longest time even before the collabs happened, what has Kiara even been doing that she can't keep people until the next collab?
>>32966352ah yes lets use the event and not the regular stream as evidence since surely that will mask their recline.thats a classic niji tactic right there sis.
>>32966320Legend goes that emperor Augustus demanded that his month would also have 31 days because Caesar's month had 31 days and he wasn't gonna get dabbed on like that.
>>32966368Her voice alone filters 50% of viewers
>>32966320>I thought it was 31,30February.... ;-(
>>32966368dude listening 12hrs to fauna vs listening 12 hour to kiara. i mean don't wanna be rude but they are not the same.
>>32966202Well I stopped watching all of them after a month, but from the membership I actually expecting Magni to get almost as many as Vesper, but somehow he only got slightly more than Axel and Regis. I can tell you that the meme magic on Magni is gone, at least from what I observed. He might still have the highest ceiling but I expect his floor will decline a bit.
>>32966388Do Nijis get good poll participation on events?
>>32965773Kobo is an arrogant whore
>>32966368Her voice is annoying
So what do we think of haachama's holocure numbers? For someone who isn't watched for playing games, she honestly over performed, it was never within my expectations to ever see her break 10k in game that isn't a very special minecraft streamAnd she was overlapped by both Subaru and Miko, I'd give her number performance a nice 7-7.5/10Would've been better if she comfortably got over 10k bur she just edged over it, I wonder how her 3rd and 4th stream are going to look like if they ever happen.While it is a good buff, holocure isn't as big of a buff as it was back when it first released imo
>>32966368>what has Kiara even been doing that she can't keep people until the next collab?Outside of Kiara and Reine, how much overlap is there really between ID fans and EN fans? I think they're two independent groups.That's before you consider timezones.
>>32966413Why is it gone btw? Does he not lean on the meme anymore or did people simply get bored?
>>32966368Is the collab with Kobo even announced? Even then, IOPs will be filtered by the English. Also, Ollie and Reine are there.
>>32966361Wow, VERSEn is actually getting pushed up in the ranking because the other bottom corpos are somehow doing even worse.
>>32966388https://holo.poi.cat/stream/GFn9KYadkSQ>He reclined!As he makes almost $1k around a near 4k peak. Again, what part of reclining is this, anon? >>32966413There's absolutely no way Magni was ever getting close to Vesper. I don't even know why you'd believe this after you saw the opening SC streams. Vesper made what, over double what Magni made back then? What would change things now when Vesper is blowing everyone out of the waters in SC production and viewership?
>>32966458>Is the collab with Kobo even announced?She had the schedule up for like 2 days
>>32966336>Mori gonna be more of the target since she would be the one to initiate the collabscan't wait for the "other girls were forced" cope
Why are >we giving that homobeggar the time of the day? He has been spewing inaccurate shits that showed he watched neither the girls nor the boys. He is either stirring shit here for (You)s or genuinely wish harm on the talents.
>>32966413He is a fag. Also, I bet he wants those memes gone.
>>32966456He’s a bigger faggot than most of Luxium. Not good if they’re really aiming for a brotuber audience
this is what you get from leeching kobo, it's just subs number and nothing more
Where's the tallyanon
>>32966427>t. Siska
>>32965331Apparently Enna was crying about work related stuff, something about her project getting deleted./NijiEN/ usually start shitting up this thread when there's any hint of drama within their own community, because to them all drama is started by "muh holobronies".Which is why the timing of the raids is often very confusing to us.
>>32966456Magni's problem is that his best content is pre-planned skits. It doesn't translate too well to long streams, and it started to show. He can still be one of the most entertaining of tempus, just not all the time.
>>32966413Magni blew it on his first day with such classic takes such as >I'm not gonna do any fun kayfabe shit>in fact fuck the whole holostars thing I'll just do whatever I want>what are they gonna do, fire me?
>>32966439>While it is a good buff, holocure isn't as big of a buff as it was back when it first released imoThat might be true but it is a whole lot more because the girls all jumped into it as soon as it released, unlike in the first incarnation when Matsuri jumped first and proved the potential for it.I think there was at very least 3 or 4 Holocure streams per day since release, with most of them overlapping one way or another
>>32966466>sc copeclassic nijisis behavioranon posted the chart already and we can see tht they reclined>also 3.7k streamdamn he was a 5k streamer a month ago what a recline
So not even Gura's BIG collab could get a true gold for EN, huh?
>>32966439Not bad
>>32966413>>32966456some people are desperate for anything new to watch from Hololive that they willingly watched fucking stars on their debut only to cycle into the next hotness like EN3 soon. thats called the debut buff
>>32965793That would be a lot easier to do if people didn't use the garbage average numbers to shit post for half the thread.>>32965860Sure, but peak median has flaws but a lot of that is due to choice like the HoloEN girls choosing to never use the raid feature. Average, on the other hand, is flawed on a fundamental level. Look at how NijiEN recovers their waiting rooms instantly and it sometimes takes HoloEN minutes. That makes a huge difference in average and its something that can't be controlled. The garbage average data must be discarded.
>>32966492>slow day>prime SEA hours
>>32966456He unironically killed his momentum with the daph collab
>>32966427Can't handle brats? Your ojisan license has been revoked.
>>32966092EN management is dumb we all know that but this fault heavily on the homos they are already doing great with their small circle but suddenly they let Mori dictate their action to the collabs.Again they should have listen to their advise to themselves solo content is the key.
>>32966277Yeah, just like Salome right ? There was no way she was going to recline right ?
>>32966368Id viewers hate kiara cause she forcing herself in pekomoona thing
>>32966533Remove Ollie, bae and irys. Add fauna and it would've gotten 40k
>>32966502But he does not leech from Kobo. Do you really expect normie Indos to leave Kobo and visit his stream instead?
>>32966502Hes just get buff from leeching, playing shit games n not actually producing any music despite being the singer of his gen. The only things that keeps his channel alive is that he groomed his paypigs
>Tempiss reclining hardIove to see it
>>32966446I mean we saw kobo joining minecraft pushing Fauna even further up during the whole Rust clusterfuck
>>32966577Bros, save my Salome
>>32966458kobo didn't say anything on her twittersome of her audience still came tho, but not that much and immediately leave after the collab ended
>>32966336Ame's plan for the rest of the month is to>complete Neon White, Mario Galaxy and Elden Ringcoupled with default watchalongs and sc readings. She'll get shit numbers regardless. Same could be said about Kronii, so they're not worth checking either.
>>32966427What do you think about Enna? see >>32965369
>>32966456No idea. Actually I personally find him not as interesting. For the ranking of entertainment value for me I would Vesper>Magni=Regis>Axel from the first month. All of them are not that good if you want to see their entertainment value as a streamer, but they are decent enough as male EN vtubers because it is a small pond to begin with.>>32966466Membership is cheap and you can't spam them like SCs if you don't count gifted ones. And if you don't count gifted ones his is lower than his ccv suggest it would be (compared to other Tempus).
>>32966592>despite being the singer of his genThat’s axel, though
Were there instances where a new Twitch streamer gets a lot of viewers after going live on twitch for the first time? Including those in a group or going solo or is the vtuber debut phenomena is its own thing?
>>32966588>Remove Ollie, bae and irys.ollie was pretty tameirys and bae though were hilarious thoughnot sure how would fauna do
>>329653633k watchalong yesterday.
>>32966575i'm very curious about that mori line "yeah they are lifting ban collab 1 week early because of the fan request".While starsjp didn't know anything while mori had already 2 collab lined up.
>>32966553also see>>32966506
>>32966532>ReclinedAbsolute retardation, especially from people who don't even dabble in watching them or even know shit. So let me give you a course rundown since your room temperature IQ is showing.Tempus ramped up the amount of streams they've done for one, and two is that they've spread their streams out across the day so they individually have to pull audiences rather than immediate raids into eachother. An obvious case of this is Regis doing a morning stream for 2 hours, leaving Vesper to pull his own audience an hour later. Or Vesper streaming from 1/2pm to 5pm, leaving Regis or Magni to get viewership by themselves at 7pm.You see how different that is than repeated raids from 9pm-10pm-11pm-12am? People are trying to establish themselves individually, which is why numbers go down. Yes, there's probably a slight stabilization happening as time goes on, but trying to target people and claim they're reclining without even having a solid reason backing it up is fucking stupid.
>>32966439>holocure isn't as big of a buff as it was back when it first released imoJP Gen 0+1 isn't as big of a buff as Myth+Council, gee what a surprise
>>32966439Overlap is really killing the number and a lot of girl are jumping on the train at the same time doesn't help. I do think a bit of novelty kinda wore off and a lot of the girls aren't that good at it.
>>32966502her collab with kobo gained a lot of views thoit gained so much, the collab vods also beat his cover song
>>32964080Man its so refreshing to see Matsuri with good average, maybe the newfags might not know but she was the one behind so many crazy clips.I know its Matsuri and she doesn't care about # but at least people will stop shitposting about her
>>32966595everyone knew this
it's boring when nijiEN gets serious
>>32966691>Cope>Cope>Even more copeLmao
>>32966439Not bad at all actually, especially since it's just as you said... People don't watch haachama for gameplay since she doesn't really play that many games in general.She proved to be very good at it, she finished the first stage twice today back to bax and got to mikodanye on her first try for stage 2.I think if you weight the buffs and debuff here it kind of turns out neutral or slightly towards buff, her peaks and averages for both streams showed that if she does play something that is somewhat popular tourists will in fact watch her, and I guess that's the most important takeaway here.I think she'd comfortably sit on 13k+ if she ever plays rust
>>32966705Matsuri is literally never mentioned in /#/ anymore. What kind of shit posts are you seeing? People just accepted that she doesn't care
>>32966506Paul Li is really cracking the whip really hard huh?
Rust buff is also fading is it because gura isn't playing in S3?
>>32966703His subs are literally deadsubs. They dont want his stream nor listen to his cover
>>32966703Kobokeks want to see his chat's reaction. Theyre not gonna watch any of his other streams.
>>32966712But they're still losing...
>>32966712>it's boring when nijiEN gets seriousin shitposting
subaru won. and i am happy
>>32966765Lmao
How many times have I seen the lines>council are failures>how do we save council? >how do we save myth? >how do we save luxiem? >reclining sharkCome up with more creative bait guys.
>>32966712>nijiEN gets seriously retardedftfy
>>32966705Anon she's done 4 streams in these 11 days, 2 are rust and 2 are karaokes
>>32966777We happy
>From 5k to barely 3.5kHow do we save Tempus
>>32966806We're talking about tempus reclining now
>>32966475Well Mori already reclined hard even with huge buff games.Interesting to see whats the effect on Kronii and specially to Ame which also the one that initiated the collab.
>>32966658You mean a new streamer going live for the first time?
>>32966806>How many times have I seen the linesMost likely more than a year
>>32966818I mean at least its not apex (non gacha) spam anymore
>>32966842That's a good start.
>>32966740>she doesn't careBut what about her big comeback?
>>329668333.5k is more than they deserve
>>32966777
>>32966833>IlunaFrom 80k to 3view. How do we save them
>>32966751>fadingNigger what?
>>32966682Starsjp and starsen have completely different management which is why the jp stars were never truly knew when the collab ban ended
>>32966833We don't
/news/ roundup for 11-09-2022 (all times are in JST)> From yesterday : Sakura Ritsuki (NijiJP) revealed her new outfit (https://youtu.be/iLE_71z8sH4).).> Tempus T-Shirt merch announced with art drawn by Magni (https://shop.hololivepro.com/pages/amazon-merch-ondemand-3).).> Pochi (indie) announced that she will be getting a new model and will no longer be using her voice changer which slightly pitched up her voice (https://twitter.com/lizhi3/status/1568827139746824192).).> Shu (NijiEN) and Voltaction (NijiJP) will hold a stream in Japanese containing merch updates for the AGF event on 14th (https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1568796655864127490).).> Amamiya (NijiJP) will be holding a Splatoon 3 tournament tomorrow with 8 participants (https://twitter.com/amamiya_kokoro/status/1568548709239246848).).> Selen and Scarled sponsored to stream "Goddess of Victory:Nikke" (https://youtu.be/y0Mj0gnx5CM).).> TW VTuber Linglan Lily - formerly of Cloud Horizon - redebuted under a new brand "THE BOX" today (https://youtu.be/Z0RGp_u1dpw).). Revealed a new Live2D model and released a new Cover as well.Previous : >>32889800August roundup : >>32140520
>>32966337yes, unlike Pekochan Marine is well-connected person so she has a lot backstories behind the scene and people wanna hear her talk about other Holomems. She does read superchat but usually just turning into zatsudan. Personally I prefer Korone's c-part because she pander a bit to kaigainiki and being creative.
>>32966806The tempus bait is pretty successful in riling up our sisters. It's still boring though
>>32966751I haven't watched JP yet, but for EN so far, Rust is still in the Beginning phase of the season. Most of them are doing their own things, building houses and exploring. That isn't really that exciting unless you really love the chuuba.I expect Rust buff to be a bit bigger for EN around mid-season when they start PvE raiding together or PvP with each other.
lizzie still can't beat sana graduation
>>32966844Yeah, as far as I know, I remembered reading about greekgodz getting 30k in his time which is a lot after leeching from tyler. I want to know had there be people getting 90-180k for their first streams, either a celebrity or a friend of a famous twitch streamer etc. I don't know about Corpse when he streamed for the first time though, probably a lot.
>>32966833Most of the people who watch them for brotubers seems to have left and the only ones watching seem to be female unicorns, collabeggars and unityfags so collabing with the girls more and more will be interesting to say the least.
>>32966833>Make them stop collabing with the girls so homobeggars stay longer>Quit the fleshtuber collabs>Shill the projects extra hard>Play actual good streaming gamesDone.
>>32966705No one talks about Matsuri anymore but there was a time when chinks ruled the hololive clipping scene and the international audience and MatsuFubu was THE power couple till they went full on retarded homo saviorfag that tanked both their numbers especially Matsuri's. Matsuri and Fubuki not being the same kind of power couple like they used makes me feel real old and its just been two years.
>>32966906Liz fucking reclined
>>32966691Imagine doing all these intricate maneuvers just to get like 200-300 ccv more than if you don't do it. What they are doing now is inflating their own ccv in the short term in hopes that those audience will tune into them long term, however the implication of them passing audiences around is that they will have too many shared audiences. It won't be a problem if they don't overlap which they are smartly avoiding right now with one of their maneuvers.I would appreciate more if they are brainstorming for more interesting contents behind the scene instead of conspiring to game the Youtube system to gain some extra ccv. Being more interesting generates real value, while small tricks on the algorithm is just prime indie behaviour.
>>32966885>Pochi (indie) announced that she will be getting a new model and will no longer be using her voice changer which slightly pitched up her voiceanon thats fake newsyou should indicate that she will not be abandoning her old model and voice changer
>>32966862
Guys how do I use the spoiler tag ?
>>32966740Well, not anymore but there once was doom posting of her when she was struggling with 2-3k playing APEX and was not in the right state of mind.So good to see her performing well.
>>32966691Yea, good point
>>32966777I've started to watch her persona streams, and I can see why they get so much viewership.
>>32966919Kill yourself homobeggar
>>32966833Stop them from playing shitty games like FTL or dwarf fortress for a start.
>>32966955
>>32966818Not just this month anon, since her last celebration live she is performing well, low numbers here and there but that is ok
>>32966806>stales baits for days here now# is reclining. How do we save #?
>>32966937man fbk inclined hard after she stopped that shit
>>32966937Okay gramps its time to go to bed.How's Lyger these days?
>>32966854Apex gacha gave her the most money though lol.
I don't have any shuba pics...
I will mention Matsurihttps://twitter.com/natsuiromatsuri/status/1568989732620890112Tribalist BTFO
I don't have subaru lewds
>>32966751Anon, Polka peak at 17k in Rust
>>32966986>homobeggaranon re-read what i wrote, what im saying is that homobeggars are slowly killing tempus since the people left in their audience will fuck off after every collab.
>>32966999stopped doing what, the homo saviorfagging or the Matsuri yuri baiting?
>>32966919>Most of the people who watch them for brotubers seems to have leftJudging from their chats, this seems to be only true for Axel. Which is pretty funny when you think about it
>>32966953ah, ok I was just checking from her pichttps://twitter.com/lizhi3/status/1568827139746824192Seems she's made it clear right below the linked tweet
>>32966439ngl I never expected her to break 5k on those streams
>>32967015They are too busy arguing about Tempus.
>>32966952tldr the boys are smarter than the dumb bitches I watch so I'm just going to dismiss their strategy and call it cope
>>32967022Seeing that that anon mentioned Gura, he probably was talking about EN Rust only
>>32967042both
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfqX35STXFMMORE ANNOUNCEMENTS
>>32967048Axel unironically get the most fem-unicorn because he's fucking retarded
>>32966890From what I've seen in some of Korone's part C, she was a bit too parasocial for my taste. I am not sure if she is genuinely psychopathic, with all the yubi stuff, or that was her acting, because I've seen once that she berated part of her chat and then trying to (jokingly) bet for forgiveness.
/news/ roundup for 11-09-2022 (all times are in JST)> From yesterday : Sakura Ritsuki (NijiJP) revealed her new outfit (https://youtu.be/iLE_71z8sH4).).> Tempus T-Shirt merch announced with art drawn by Magni (https://shop.hololivepro.com/pages/amazon-merch-ondemand-3).).> Pochi (indie) announced that she will be getting a new model and will occasionally streaming without using her voice changer - which slightly pitched up her voice (https://twitter.com/lizhi3/status/1568827139746824192).). She confirmed that she will continue using both voices and both models (https://twitter.com/lizhi3/status/1568827796830703617).).> Shu (NijiEN) and Voltaction (NijiJP) will hold a stream in Japanese containing merch updates for the AGF event on 14th (https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1568796655864127490).).> Amamiya (NijiJP) will be holding a Splatoon 3 tournament tomorrow with 8 participants (https://twitter.com/amamiya_kokoro/status/1568548709239246848).).> Selen and Scarled sponsored to stream "Goddess of Victory:Nikke" (https://youtu.be/y0Mj0gnx5CM).).> TW VTuber Linglan Lily - formerly of Cloud Horizon - redebuted under a new brand "THE BOX" today (https://youtu.be/Z0RGp_u1dpw).). Revealed a new Live2D model and released a new Cover as well.Previous : >>32889800August roundup : >>32140520
>>32967015Will matsuri ever get hoshikawa to say “i love you” back?
>>32967095>MORE ANNOUNCEMENTSI have incredibly low expectations
>how the fuck did this dude get 5k on omori??Oh
>>32967078>tldr the boys are smarter than the dumb bitchesSeeing as how they are doing the mori/ollie route which is the most retarded route you can take then they are as retarded as the girls
>>32967082But I thought everyone loved Matsuri and FBK being a yuribait couple...
How do we save HoloCure?
>>32967048Himbo
>>32967128anon... that's not Hoshikawa...
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *Here it goes>41,806: Subaru (Hololive)>32,344: Pekora (Hololive)>32,232: Gura (Hololive)>30,070: Korone (Hololive)>29,828: Lily Linglan (The Box)>28,990: Fuwa (Nijisanji)>26,625: Miko (Hololive)>19,759: Okayu (Hololive)>19,095: Salome (Nijisanji)>17,831: Polka (Hololive)>17,481: Kanae (Nijisanji)>17,257: Salome (Nijisanji)>15,342: Lamy (Hololive)>14,903: Met (774 Inc.)>14,577: Luna (Hololive)>14,349: Watame (Hololive)>14,079: Kanata (Hololive)>14,069: GatchmanV (indie)>12,212: Nene (Hololive)>11,995: Koyori (Hololive)>11,939: Kanae (Nijisanji)>11,145: Koyori (Hololive)>10,861: Bae (Hololive)>10,720: Chloe (Hololive)>10,278: Luca (Nijisanji)>10,033: Haachama (Hololive)Subaru steady hands securing gold as the "guardian of weekends"
>>32967095Mori successfully killed the word "Announcement" for HoloEN already. 8k max
>>32967079We'll see, we haven't seen any of the holoEN big hitters aside from Ina play rust yet
>>32966890Actually is Marine one of the few JP left who does pure zatsudan?
>AVERAGE MEDIANlol
>>32967095inb4 it's an Amazon announcement
I just wish the girls had more drive to do shit like the boys. Like, imagine if Gooruh did an amazon merch drop like Magni did. She's someone people give a shit about even if they don't watch her. Those poor quality shirts would sell millions.
>>32967150More frequent updates, they waited way too long after the first release
>>32967158I know but I’m asking the question anyway
>>32967141Holy mother of raids with those awful retention.
>>32967161Nice to see goombus on the podiumNice numbers from shuba
>>32967095>It's a new album by dawg!
>>32967161
>>32967004Working for cover
>>32967141Almost 4k for Omori is really good
>>32967098He is not.He likes their attention and will slip some service but he knows he cant do that regularly.Its a fun thing to see him struggle with this
>>32967078You can interpret it as that alright, but I genuinely only watch streamers when they are interesting, either vtubers or meatbags. Some big meatbag streamers on twitch did try to game the system too but I never watch them because they are not that interesting. A certain Swedish hobo who was reclining is still more entertaining than the entire twitch and even Youtube male streamers, for example, without him ever need to manipulate the numbers.
>>32966740I mean, we did post about all her attempts to get back into the BOX.This was since December btw.
>>32967141bros our popularity contest is invalidated by daily natural inclines....
>>32967188>Like, imagine if Gooruh did an amazon merch drop like Magni didIm actually skeptical about that shirt project since cover almost had a mini yab when they did those in the jp side
>>32967161Pekora the silver rabbit...
>>32965747You are confused anon. The only numberfags are here. All content creators, entertainer, idols etc live for their audience. This is their life, their career, and their time on the stage is limited. One day they are going to retire so they try their best while they still can. For you the numbers is just something used for shitposts and console wars but for them it equals the amount of people they made happy that day.
>>32967161HEY!
>>32966550> caring this much about shitposts on a basket weaving forumngmi anon
>>32967188I wish more Holo would do that since now we know that they allowed it.>>32967258What mini yab?
>>32965391>EU hours roll around>the retarded theories start coming back aroundogey
>>32967230He never give fanservice intentionally. Hes a dumbass that everything he said is either stupid or sussy and yume/fujo are diggimg him for it
>>32967271She went all out for the past three months since her return to deprive the nijis gold majority, she can have her DQ autism vacation.
>>32966983I feel like I would enjoy her, but watching JRPG streams of all things without really knowing Japanese seems kind of pointless
>shark can only get bronzeholokek status?
>>32967161pretty uneventful day
>>32967150How do we save nijicure?
>>32966937Yeah. Kiddies these days only know to hate on Chinks but they created some of the best content when they were not retarded. I still remember the kino despacito cover that Chink made for them.
>>32967161Haachama on the tally!
>>32967161>SEPTEMBER 2022 GOLDS1) Pekora (Hololive) - 54,023 - Rust2) Ayame (Hololive) - 47,845 - Return stream3) Ayame (Hololive) - 118,899 - 4th anniversary 3D live4) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 87,145 - New outfit reveal5) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,743 - Dragon Quest Monsters6) Marine (Hololive) - 45,140 - Super Smash Bros.7) Sora (Hololive) - 84,063 - 5th anniversary 3D live8) Botan (Hololive) - 88,981* - 3D birthday stream w/NePoLaBo9) Miko (Hololive) - 39,905 - HoloCure new update10) Marine (Hololive) - 50,041 - HoloCure new update11) Subaru (Hololive) - 41,806* - Persona 4 Golden>PER COMPANY10x: Hololive1x: Nijisanji>PER STREAMER2x: Ayame, Marine, Pekora1x: Botan, Fuwa, Miko, Sora, Subaru>2022 GOLDS>PER COMPANY160x: Hololive84x: Nijisanji6x: Neo Porte3x: Indie1x: Kizuna AI Inc.>PER STREAMER31x: Pekora16x: Aqua, Kuzuha, Salome15x: Miko10x: Subaru9x: Nijisanji8x: Marine6x: Hal, Hololive5x: Kanata, Mio, Toya4x: Flare, Fuwa, Gura, Noel, Okayu, Suisei, Towa3x: Ayame, Chloe, Choco, Mayuzumi, Polka2x: Ange, Botan, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Maimoto, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Shion, Sora1x: AI, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Natsume, Nene, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta
>>32967339I mean, nijis are not even in the vicinity of the podium.
>>32967305Is Europe the unicorn continent?
>>32967283they had the same thing in the jp side if i recall correctly and there were some error on the shirts but they were lucky enough to notice it and get on top of it before any of the trolls or dramafags could add fuel to the fire.
Watame 19k
>that gapjesas
>>32966765kek true
>>32966833Stop collab with females
>>32967383Kon kon kitsune Fuwa-kun
>>32967412https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_London_Bridge#Operation_Unicorn is currently happening so yes
>>32967161was subaru at the ending or something?
>>32966937Yeah, JP side already proved that collabing with males will tank their numbers. I can't wait for December to come to see how the numbers of those Kaigai Holos who collab with Homos fare. Male debuff theory being tested in real time now.
>>32967161>>32967461
>>32967421>Coomer bait>Only 10kWhat happened?
>>32967484towa.....
>>32967421WTF RISOTTO SOLO STREAM!!!!!
>>32967161>>32967494
>>32967498Luxiem is declining hard
>>32967476>United Kingdom>part of EuropeThey always feel like they are not part of the continent (they called their other European "continental" to distinguish themselves).
>>32967161Hilarious, nijisanji 2x salome, 2x kanae and 2x fuwa and then luca
>>32967522Is it?
>>32967539>Tempiss if reclining hardFtfy
>>32967522lmao
>>32967161>>32967532
>>32967508Her numbers fucking tanked since the start of her career due to male yab. Now she is recovering.
>>32967540Kinda like holoEN
>>32967532That's not subaru
>>32967568It's over
>>32967482she z'ed lol, still she legit got 36k for a filler episode which is insane, next weekend will be the nanako arc so big numbers
>>32966349>also mixed gender stuff always goes bad in the long run since ship fags will always ruin the dynamic.You saying it as if /u/fags are betterSee: NoeFure, PekoMiko, MiComet
>>32967161>>32967577
>>32967568every time kek
It's boring when Salome gets serious
>>32967415Oh that was just a design mistake, not really a yab.
>>32967611dont know about the jp side but in the en sphere they are worse than /u/fags
>>32967540>invaded by romans>invaded by vikings>invaded by normans>the english language barely has any of its native vocabulary remainingThey're just coping.
>>32967611MiComet is not ruined (yet) though. I genuinely think PekoMiko went too far themselves, Miko is particular that is. She probably made some move on Pekora and Pekora weirded out. Pekora time and time again pronounced that she is absolutely straight.
>>32967600Anon the drawing has subaru’s blue and yellow eye color. That’s definitely subaru
>>32967161>>32967654
>>32967383>10x: Hololive>1x: NijisanjiCan Niji even get 3 golds this month or will it be worse than April?
>>32967664almost was since the dramafags and trolls on the jp side tried to start shit in twitter but jp management was fast to act on it. based on en managements performance i dont think they can do the same thing if something happens in the en side since they are a lot slower and there are more trolls and dramafags in the en side.
>>32967161>>32967708
>>32967742They have kuzuha cup and kuzuha day.
Has any JP talked about ID being in Japan
>>32967568classico NijiEN
>>32967161>>32967755
>>32967693There was a page in Vinlang Saga that explained even Anglo-Saxon was an invader of the land. The real ancient OG inhabitants are now in Wales. However it doesn't change the fact that UK is indeed different than other EU countries.
>>32967742It's boring when nijisanji gets serious
>>32967161>>32967798
>>32967821Reported "Off-topic"
>>32967742Unless someone REALLY provokes watamage's ire, a repeat of April is not happening.
>>32967785None yet I think, it seems like they will have no direct contact until the debut
>>32967742well they have a couple of tournaments...also reminder than Holo is hitting most of these golds from regular streams, they've only had 4 major big events so far and one of them actually lost gold.
Numberbros, where to find unfiltered Z numbers. I need for personal record keeping since tallydwarf became a limp sack of beards.
>Leos > Salome > ?????Who's next?
>>32966202>muh ilunalet it go homobeggars. you can't hide behind nijiniggers forever, the truth is holochads just don't fucking like you and yours. you have always been seen as unnecessary to detrimental
>>32967161>>32967883
>>32967694Haachama stayed with miko for an entire night and I think it actually made them closer, I think this is pekora's fault for being a fucking prude
>>32967150Holocure is good man, considering it's free. Holos are just so bad at the game.
>>32967540nah i voted for brexit and even i'll happily admit we're european, english/british first naturally but we're very similar in various ways to other northern/western euro countries
>>32967281Nah, I love shitposts when they are based on good numbers and solid data. The problem with average is that it is garbage data so the shit posts aren't even fun. It's just shit on top of shit.
>>32967924>>32967161
>>32967922Engish
>finally listened to that Kiara call-in to ReineFuck man. I genuinely felt sad for Kiara. She basically implied that other ENs disliked her after their off-collab or something. That is probably why she seldom collab with Myth or other ENs anymore. I mean she is a bit Karen-like but I genuinely think that is not a reason to hate her on a personal level. I have a few Karen-like friends irl too and they are usually okay to be with most of the time. Kiara deserves more friends.
How do we save Koronesuki?
>>32967785No one cares about ID
>>32967876don't they have to quarantine first?
>>32967383>Mel 2 golds>Vox 1 goldmilord...
>>32967161>>32967963
>>32967568>The biggest collab babyMan.
>>32967929It's mostly because a good portion of them have zero fucking upgrades for some reason. You can tank or outDPS everything in this game unless you're playing halu 5.
>>32967928I think Pekora genuinely allergic to that kind of stuff. She backed away in fear in the live when Marine suddenly hugged her from the back and tried to grope her.
>>32967804Wales has Welsh people. The original inhabitants where the Britons. Both Welsh and Britons are Gaelic (iirc), but they are not exactly the same. Some Britons went to France.
>>32966550>Average, on the other hand, is flawed on a fundamental level>Average is flawed since it shows how nijien has bad viewer retention
>>32967161>>32968000
>>32967963>>32968000>long haired ShubaOh no, I like these.
Anya...also kek half her chat is JP
>>32967421Im actually surprised luca was that low
Maybe kgp can correct me if I heard her wrong, but a bit ago Kiara said she was disappointed in how some portions of her marathon was doing (but that she was gonna truck on and have fun with everyone, so no hate)Sometimes I feel bad she doesn't get da beeg numbers considering how she openly cares
>>32967958>The problem with average is that it is garbage data>>32968038
>>32967987They probably have finished that already considering that they have bizarre stories like getting hit with a bike fined and moona konbini stories
>>32968024They are in Britanny in France is it? I think there are refugees fleeing to Wales during the Angl-Saxon invasion too.
>>32967095>can't have just rolled the store and vinyl announcement into this streamremind me, why does this thread not love mori? she is a huge numberfag, like, fucking hugejust not for CCV
>>32967790Hey, don't mock our EN daisenpai like that. kekGood thing somebody actually made this.
>>32968055>And IDkeks said she's doing better than IlunaLMAO
>>32968055>spoilerWhy are you so surprised about a japanese girl having a japanese audience?
>>32967958Anon this board used that financial post comparison between Cover and Anycolor to say that Anycolor is inclining for some reason despite them paying a fuckload of taxes and not investing their profit anywhere.It's just how this site works, get used to it.
>>32968075her streams would unironically do much better if she did a suisei and lower the pitch of her voice.
Sad day, I don't like Subaru
>>32967161>>32968083
>>32967973My impression of Kiara is that she is a clingy extrovert but everyone else on Myth are reclusive introverts. Personality frictions are inevitable in that case.
>>32967115Well that's just some jokes she loves to repeat all the time. To be honest no one in Holos could be parasocial like Rushia used to be. I was in her chat back when she played mario kart at 4 am and it was like watching an actual cult kek.
>>32968055I thought rust arc inclined her to the moon
Kiara would probably do better in Japan in terms of numbers. Staying in Austria does not help her mentally either way as she still had a panic attack in Austria.
>>32968108there's nothing worse than a numberfag that fails at understanding how numbers work and flopping in the process
>>32968096ah theyre in the not confined but no contact with other people phase of the quarantine im guessing.
>>32967966There isn't anything wrong with that post, homobeggar. Or are you asking to be taught english? I don't do that for free, quit begging.
>>32967694>MiComet is not ruined (yet) though.People already getting obnoxious with it, but Suisei is not a doormat like Pekora so she will fire back
>>32967161>>32968133
>>32968055She may lose some battles but she's winning the war
>>32968164She's was stupid to move out of Japan anyway instead asking Cover for help but that's what she wanted I guess since she missed her home
>>32968142I am an introvert but still have many extrovert fans. I really don't think they should hate her for it. Not sure IRyS met Kiara irl already or not but they can definitely try it out.
>>32968104Yeah.Scottish, formerly Pictish people, Irish people, and Cornwell people are also Gaelic, but they weren't chased away by invaders.
>>32967161>>32968179
>>32967973I dislike Kiara too and don't want her in any collabs. This "kiara is isolated and reduced to collabing only with ID holos I don't watch" arc has been amazing. Fucking debuff chicken.
>>32968160There are still a lot cult in Holos though. Lamy and Watame for example.
>>32968163>Angel of DeathHoloEN except Mumei won't even break 5k with this game
>>32968007and they don't use the fucking CONTROLLERS.the game becomes order of magnitudes easier when you can move, aim and shoot seamlessly.
>>32968024>Both Welsh and Britons are Gaelic (iirc)celtic is what you're thinking of, gaels are the celts from ireland and western scotland specifically. some of the celtic britons fled to brittany (hence the name) but most just married the anglos and got assimilated
>>32967161>>32968222
>>32968178How many times have she and miko told off micomet shippers so far?
>>32968055>Half of her chat is not in JapaneseShe has lots of kaigai fans huh? They even have green names.
>>32968075Kiara is a mistake. Every single fucking foreign branch "she speaka da jap" holo is their gen's weakest link. When will Cover learn to stop wasting a slot on them.
>>32967161>>32968293
>>32968228There are only 2 things I dislike Kiara for 1. Her voice/audio mix and 2. Her refusing to do German content, even occasionally. She should definitely collab with ENs more. I hope that when EN3 came out they would agree to go on her holotalk.
>>32967666damm anon, if you think en side is the worst then you probably wasn't there back in pekomiko days.
>>32968251Oh, Celts. That was it. I mistook them.
>>32968214Hate is a strong word. Introverts will often feel exhaustion and stressed when you approach them too often or aggressively. I can definitely see Kiara doing both.
>>32968248Why mumei specifically lmaoWhat's the game about?
>>32967790Ok but serious question, what the fuck is NijiEN gonna do when Riku doubles their numbers with more accelerate? The cliques are gonna be insane.
>>32967161>>32968331
>>32966550>Sure, but peak median has flaws but a lot of that is due to choice like the HoloEN girls choosing to never use the raid feature>completely ignoring that selen raid spike which is 75% of nijien raidsI would agree with you if most of their raids had good retention but generally they have shitty retention and only falsely inflates the numbers
>>32968369audience cannibalization definitely
>>32967161>>32968382
>>32967742We have Kuzuha cup and Splatoon tournamentWould be funny if pekora specifically going all out all of a sudden on those day to cuck King out of gold
>>32968369Battle royale time
>>32968339and if you think jp side is worse then you havent dived deep enough into the en streamer sphere
>>32968347Hate was the word Kiara used.>"And even after that, you didn't decided to suddenly hate me"regarding her trip with Reine.
>>32968108This thread is /vyt/ 2.0 anon.Numbers are mostly used for the /sp/ racing, and in a personal capacity, to see how big your oshi is getting and being happy for them (ignoring the newfags obviously).At the same time, low numbers doesn't automatically make the thread dislike them either, there's so many 2-3 views who have had a lot of discussion here (like pic related).It's just that, back in the day when all of us were in /jp/ there was never a chuuba who could be explicitly DISLIKED (except Mr. Hajiki, who obviously didn't have big numbers due to his comments). So most of the thread was positive (barring, of course, the usual shitposters).EN kind of changed that, and Mori specifically did a lot of damage to her own reputation due to her own actions.Simply numberfagging doesn't get back her opinion, trust lost is hard to earn again. Remember how long it took for Mori 2.0 arc to happen? Yeah twice burned and all that, people aren't going to give her a chance again.
>https://youtu.be/quPBbyZ7dLkDo Holo and niji have this kind of kino clips?Taiwan vtuber I kneel
>>32967161>>32968438
>half your stream time is you reading superchats>nooo this isn't fair, that can't be reflected in your average ccv! baffling. bizarre even
>>32967928Pekora just don't like shipping in general. How many ships have she killed now? PekoMiko? PekoMari? PekoRushi? PekoMoon? All murdered brutally by PekoraShe's a straight girl in a yuri company
>>32968304It's required for unity. Booting C*c* was a bad move.
>>32968490Some of you faggots might use it like /vyt/ but I only talk about vtubers with big numbers. I keep the 2views I like to myself.
>>32967161Another day, another hololive victory
>>32967568I think he's legitimately afraid of being alone. Your audience won't bite you, Risotto.
>>32968514The clip that made her popular
>>32967161>32,344: Pekora (Hololive)>32,232: Gura (Hololive).
>>32968475Kiara use "Hate" with a lot of thingShe's fucking ESL regarding conveying emotion for some reasons
>>32968587https://youtu.be/gZgbF2TRK2kI forgot the link
>>32967161>>32968601
>>32968369collab more
>>32968475I haven't watched Reine much but she strikes me as someone that has an even temper, her off collab with Kobo comes to mind in proving this
>>32968627>She's fucking ESL regarding conveying emotion for some reasonsNot enough reading novels in English, probably.
>>32968651>>32967161
>>32968620112 nousagis, proud to be of service
>>32967973I'm kinda alright with that. I don't like her or Mori - they are the biggest poison apples in HoloEN - so anything keeping them away from the rest of EN is fine by me. JPs will self filter, so I'm not worried about them.I don't care much for ID either, so if Reine and Kiara can support each other, totally fine with me, let them enjoy each other's company.
>>32968627I am an ESL too and I think hate is not that strong of a word in this context. In that I know she means that girls don't like her that much anymore and decided to avoid her after some off collab. For some people it really feels like they hate you because they are literally avoiding contact with you.
>>32968475she's a fucking drunk woman mate, everything they say in state state will have 500kg of exaggerations.
>>32967161>>32968700
>>32968490Fucking hell anon, why do you keep posting that cursed thread ...
>>32967973I hate her personality, she always complain about something every stream (at least that is what I heard). Like we get it, you hate management, but we are here to be entertained, not to listen to your random complaints
>>32968705I understand Mori, but how is Kiara a poison apple in HoloEN? What did she even do that is bad for holoEN as a whole?
>>32968213kek she's politically on the opposite spectrum to her mom as well, and I can imagine how that can be very stressful in daily life.
>>32968705Don't you worry, holokek. holotalk is coming back. Chicken will be back in your face soon enough.
How do we save Hololive fans?
>>32965663How do you explain Noir having some of his biggest streams in weeks after his bae collab?
>>32967161>>32968738
>>32968634I find it amusing that the easiest way to get numbers for an indie is to leech Hololive, and not go against it.>Isegye>VSPO>Prism>Pippa (phase)>LinglanBecause more often than not, some vtuber corpos who pursue the Niji way ended up failing because the lack of direction and being a 1:1 fleshstreamer. How to succeed inside and outside of Vtubing is really simple, just play the role.
>>32968770Try watch her stream. I tried watching her beads handcam stream. Other than Mr Bean dream, she mostly talked about her mother and sometimes about some stream ideas. Not much of outright complaining tbqh.
>Another Hololive victoryFeels good to be HoloChad
>>32966299don't bother, there are like 3 or 4 diehard adherants to this dumb theory that need it to be true because they can't cope with the fact that Tempus are actually doing really well.
>>32968772>5%>Trash Taste>Lean
>>32966937Definitely something happened behind the scene not some petty fights. Matsuri from one of biggest pro-Holo helping Luna and other girls to a absolute menhera refusing to collab with Holomems and spamming Apex non-stop. It was truly crazy.
>>32968842You know, the fact we haven't got Tan Shuba yet is a crime upon humanity
>>32968838bae tourists who fucked off afterwards since from the look of things he reclined after also with an even lower floor than before the collab.
>>32968844>those namesLmao you have no idea what you are talking about. They are mostly neutral about Hololive doesn't mean they are leech. Pippa was the only one that leeched on hololive but that was not the reason she incline. She inclined because countless drama put a spotlight on her, and a Romanian troll kept shilling her.
>>32968859Well even when she not complaining, her personality is a bit too...powerful for me
>>32967161>>32968876
>>32968874>Hololive victorySorry buddy, we're due for another EN vs. JP timeloop within the hour.
>>32968844I miss the time when vtubing was about playing a alternate persona
>>32968772her fans are cancer and you know what they say about fans and their oshi...
>>32968772She emboldens the Nijibeggars because she won't stop talking about those cunts. Seriously, fuck her.
>>32968881Oh no i agree they are doing well its just funny to see that their recline suspiciously started after that mori collab.
>>32968900Read my post again nigga
>>32967161>>32968960
Global tally is one thing, but for there is to be literally only one out of 16 streams in NijiEN that able to reach cripple tally yesterday is certainly fucking grim, jesas.
>>32968969Because of the streaming meta, it's near impossible to maintain a persona for years on stream
>>32968772Politics shit obviously. She won't show it on stream, but that shit usually creeps up behind the scenes.I can imagine maybe during their US visit she saw something she didn't agree with there and saw fit to shout to the entire group her opinion regarding that thing, that's usually how her type rolls.I would be glad if that was the reason the other girls distanced themselves.
>>32968977I have not seen KFP in ages. At least they are not loud potential criminals like chumpedos.
>>32968772enables the beggars with her actions. seriously if she likes to collab with pomu so much she should just graduate and go to nijien.
>>32969007>>32967161
>>32968772Oh and this as well >>32968985The sole fucking Holo who gives the time of day to nijis on screen, even after they EXPLICITY told her to fuck off about collabs.Every other Holo keeps that shit to a minimum, but there's an entire manifesto of Kiara talking about Pomu. Bitch if you like her so much, quit and go join the next wave.
reminder that holoEN is nothing without the shark
>>32969054>>32967161
>>32969014interesting to see how long saloma will last
>>32968914Thank you for displaying how retarded you people are. Check the Zomboid collab, or the MS paint stream before and after, or the second minecraft which only went down by around 3-400. Even his SC reading was higher post-Bae.>>32968984The recline is just Buff Debuff. Just look at Noir's Just talking - after putting it on break for nearly a week, his first Just chatting stream magically climbed way above 4k despite being on a downward trajectory. All of their streams post Mori collab were either neutral, mild debuffs or second parts of games.
>>32969037Sure thing, kfp.
>>32969037>Potential criminalsFuck you >we only want to suck on Gura's cunny, that's all
>holocure section the most debuffed out of everything, lower than the just chatting sectionwhat went wrong?also whoever said this rust section was a mumei collab was lying, i don't see mumei anywhere
>>32969085>>32967161
>Almost 10k listening to watame's part C
>>32968985I hated her for it too, but now I kinda understand her. Imagine in the entire western vtubing scene, your colleague gave you the cold shoulder while Pomu responded well when conversing with you, of course you will try to help her out a bit.>>32969018>She won't show it on streamIsn't that enough? She had bad takes for US politics but can you blame a European that stayed in Japan for almost half her life to have bad takes on US politics which she only did on her rm account?
>>32969080Reminder that nijiEN is nothing with all their members
>>32968355Something something psychopath
>>32969080i mean thats true with every branchholoen is nothing without snotnijien is nothing without luxiemnijijp is nothing without kuzuha andd salomeholojp is nothing without the 1st army
>>32967161>>32969135
>>32969115Oh really? What happened to Rindou Yuuki then?
>>32969155NijiEN can survive without Luxiem. Enna and Fulgur are stepping up to take their places. Who can take the place of Gura?
>>32968844Since when was Linglan leeching off Holo, Mizuki (another big TWtuber) has a really good GHOST cover but I'm not aware of Lily doing anything like that
>>32968772shes insufferable in collabs, even in the ones with oiled mechanism (so you can't pull the card shes trying to keep the discussion going), the last one that made me hate her again is the kirby one. And you can be sure, if there is a clip about drama in EN about behind the scenes conflicts is fucking LE POOR KIARA crying and dumping on her audience how miserable she is.
>>32969132Mumei probably ditched her cause she hates Kiara just like the rest of en
This is gonna be the word Myth anniverary/collab/w/e numbers ever. I honestly can't believe Ame is doing yet more retarded VR shit but this time expects the viewers to fucking have VR hardware. Please god, with japan finally open, let this be the last we are subjected to la creadiVRdad
>>32969105Management are trying their goddamn best to help her maintain the kayfabe for as long as possible
>>32969195>the last one that made me hate her again is the kirby oneWhat happened there?
>>32969080True nowadays. Gura and to her credit, Mori's bombastic first months post debut was insane. Viral clips? Music remixing competitions that spurred on great engagement for music vtubers? All around positivity and BIG NUMBERS that climaxed into the Taiwan arc. It was unforgettable. Meanwhile I can't even remember what CouncilRys first months were
>>32969155>And salomeNigga she's not even that reliable for regular number nowadays. Kuzuha literally back on carrying the whole company again with once in a blue moon Chinman >Meanwhile, at least in HoloEN and HoloJP, even without their aces there will always be someone who still able to secure the numbers on day-to-day basis
>>32969110>The recline is just Buff Debuffdoesnt explain the floors going down only after the collab with mori though. They actually had stable numbers prior to that and going by some anons here some people who didnt want the girls collabing with their brotubers fucked off along with some of the female unicorns im guessing. Still we wont really know until months from now.
*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*Here it goes>9/11 Daily Tally32,232: Gura (Hololive)10,852: Baelz (Hololive)10,267: Luca (Nijisanji)8,646: Kiara (Hololive)8,103: Magni (Hololive)7,160: Noir (Hololive)6,748: Magni (Hololive)5,699: Regis (Hololive)5,187: Amelia (Hololive)>EN GOLD SO FAR FOR SEPTEMBER1. Gura (Hololive) - 15,128 (RUST)2. Yugo (Nijisanji) - 21,274 (English Telephone Game)3. Noir (Hololive) - 14,791 (Boomer vs. Zoomer game w/Baelz)4. Gura (Hololive) - 30,762 (Gura's Big Brain Games w/Ollie, Kronii, Ina, IRyS, Mumei, and Baelz)5. Vox (Nijisanji) – 25,137 (Unarchived Karaoke)6. Baelz (Hololive) - 11,711 (Plants vs. Zombies)7. Kiara (Hololive) - 21,528 (Holocure: Save the Fans)8. Baelz (Hololive) - 13,218 (Unarchived Karaoke)9. Ina (Hololive) - 12,053 (RUST)10. Gura (Hololive) - 22,264 (Holocure: Save the Fans)11. Gura (Hololive) - 32,232 (Gura's Big Brain Games w/Ollie, Kronii, Ina, IRyS, Mumei, and Baelz)>GOLD PER COMPANYHololive - 9Nijisanji - 2Others - 0>GOLD PER STREAMER4x: Gura2x: Baelz1x: Yugo, Noir, Vox, Kiara, Ina>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)Gura: 20Baelz: 16Vox: 7Mumei: 6Shu: 6Yugo: 5Noir: 5Mysta: 5Kiara: 5Ina: 5Fauna: 4Enna: 4Alban: 3Regis: 3IRyS: 2Amelia: 2Luca: 1
All these eggs don't know that kiara are referring to her irl friends she said so during an superchat reading. She knows all of en are busy with their own lives and she live in an bad timezone for collabs. All hololive needs to do is get another eu holo and kiara would be happy and the niji begging would practically stop.
>>32967161>>32969230
>>32969219You know EN fan will once again praise it to high heaven and EN will keep doing it
What’s with the kiara hate all of a sudden? Is this just one schizo egg or what?
>>32968728>For some people it really feels like they hate you because they are literally avoiding contact with youSounds like they needed distance, it doesn't mean they hate her.
>>32969195Pretty sure other ENs had their fair share of complaints about EN management. They just worded them better.
>>32969189They are larpers. Actual chumbuds only cares about one cunny and that is Gura's.
>>32969192I mean from the look of the averages there are a lot of holos above enna and fulgur so losing shark might not be as bad as losing luxiem since they are the only ones that actually break the top 10
>>32967161>>32969282
>>32969285bad numbers for the12 hour marathon
>>329692502020 will always be the year for Hololive and COVID
so tomorrow's global gold is more or less from Myth?
>>32969132her holocure game play always make my blood pressure rise up.and the only collab game with EN probably is Oink game according to her schedule she post on twitter.
>>32969277kys
>>32969277Genuine question tally anon, has anyone ever fucking cared about your point system shit? Why do you bother?
>>32969132It wasn't holocure, it was AoE kek
>>32969277Does anyone have the overall en tally gold counts since inception
>>32969328>~800 larpersI don't fucking believe it. These are definitely chumpedos.
>>32969277Huh? Noir, Magni and Regis Hololive?
>>32967161>>32969333
>>32969277It's boring when nijien gets serious
>>32969277>Literally only 1 NijiEN in the tally WTF LMAO. UNIRONICALLY GRIM
>>32969249just open the vod and click randomly, she will be the one talking over the others saying mindless stuff just to forcefully fill the air without giving chance to anyone else to talk.with her fucked up settings. and volume.
I think some holoEN and maybe some JP have day jobs considering Vtubing is not something that they can live off of until retirement.
>>32969361he is EN tallyanon
Reminder that its not just KiaraIt's Takanashi Kiara, Lady of Kilnaish and Glencoe in Scotland
>>32969392>>32967161
>>32969347>Myth>Global goldIs it the VR stream on Ame channel? Yeah no chance
>>32969388>hololive production yes?
>>32969291I know they don't hate her, but it is not a feeling that I think anyone can handle well. Imagine all of the people you think are your friends are actively avoiding you. I would've fucking be in shambles.
>>32969406What do you think some of the girls are in college for?
>>32969281>All hololive needs to do is get another eu holo and kiara would be happyor stay with me here she could actually go back to japan since shes one of the few people that can easily go there due to her previous visa history
>>32969386>800 greynamesNot chumbuds in my book. They never taste Gura's GFE with her members
>>32967161>>32969435
>>32969406HoloEN is raking in money,anon. It is not nijisanji
>>32969447That happened to me in high school and I had a mental breakdown literally up to college graduation lmao
>>32969406I mean some JP is already rich as fuck. People like Noel or Mel have alternate source of income that might even more profitable than Hololive. Some other JP made money just by being there and sell their already established fame or made so much money they don't know what to do with it
>>32969143Yes, I can and will blame her
>>32969132It was a scuffed af Holocure that she ended up changing it to AoE2, lol
>>32969425Kek
>>32969399shut up holokek
>>32968988Sorry, anon. am haatonTo answer your question correctly, it's the voice. Some schizos might pull outdated rrats and rm shit, but for most it's really just the voice.
>>32969401>she will be the one talking over the others saying mindless stuff just to forcefully fill the airThat is just JP behaviour. You can see it in TOwa/Mumei collab. I seriously has no idea how other ENs can tolerate the amount of dead air they produced on stream.
>>32969438>hololive productionYes, doesn't say that though
>>32969485Reminder that Subaru is supposed to be an MMA club manager or some shit
>Kaela overlapping IRyS HoloCureFucking IDkeks
>>32969388entallyfag is a retard what's new
>>32969542The face of freedom
>>32969281just graduate kiara instead of dooming another fifth of a new gen to the EU slot.
>>32967161>>32969533
>>32969498Yeah that is what happened to Kiara right now lmao.
>>32969542Wait wtf but there's no one talking about Supa3D
>>32969557> I seriously has no idea how other ENs can tolerate the amount of dead air they produced on streamAre you like, not a native speaker? Because this dreaded "dead air" isn't really unless there's an actual chemistry vacuum. Most EN just talk normally, and leave like mere seconds between engagements.
>>32969542Go backWe didn't say "super"
>>32967161>>32969593
>>32969250I mean the retard Mori (and prolly Myth overall) told them to took it easy on their fucking first year. I know burnt out and all is a thing for myth but that's why Council is there, let them actually work hard so even if Myth taking it easy due to burnt out there will always be someone to keep the content belts going.
>>32969640>>32967161
>>32969447With things like these, time is a healer. Obsessing over past bad interactions or forcing a confrontation is generally a bad idea
>>32969616Tbf to that anon the first towamei collab was REALLY bad. They stepped it up for the next few tho. Towa probably talked to mumei after the first collab and told her to speak up more or something
>>32969374Overall EN Medal count since tracking began>Gold51x: Gura23x: Mumei22x: Mysta, Vox11x: Mori10x: Baelz, Kronii8x: Fauna6x: Kiara5x: Ina4x: IRyS, Yugo, Ike, Luca, Amelia3x: Shu, Uki2x: Sana, Ren, Petra, Elira, Selen1x: Magni, Noir, Enna, Nina, Alban, Sara, Rosemi>Silver26x: Vox22x: Mysta18x: Mumei15x: Luca, Ina10x: Amelia, IRyS, Fauna9x: Gura, Shu, Mori8x: Baelz7x: Ike, Kiara4x: Kronii, Selen3x: Ren, Yugo2x: Regis, Uki, Sonny, Alban1x: Enna, Nina, Axel, Aster, Noir, Rosemi, Elira, Fulgur>Bronze28x: Mysta22x: Vox17x: Mori16x: Kronii, Ina14x: Luca12x: Baelz, Amelia11x: Mumei10x: Fauna8x: IRyS6x: Gura, Kiara5x: Ike, Fauna, Shu3x: Uki2x: Yugo, Petra, Alban, Magni1x: Selen, Sana, Fulgur, Aia, Axel, Pomu, Elira>HOLOLIVE136 Golds112 Silver116 Bronze364 TOTAL MEDALS>NIJISANJI74 Gold101 Silver88 Bronze263 TOTAL MEDALS>OTHERS1 Gold0 Silver0 Bronze1 TOTAL MEDAL
>>32967161>>32969694
>>32969616Those are actual dead airs. Literally the time where no one is speaking, hence dead air. All ENs have them in their solo stream to a certain degree, worst one is Mumei, even in the best zatsudan where she talked about things she hates including the shopping cart thing, her stream is like a bag of potato chips, lots of dead air and little real content. The reason I can watch Bae more because she can fill those dead air, albeit most of the time with stupid screams, but still better than the others.
>>32969542P.T. kson mod when?
>>32969731Thank you anon.
>>32969189qrd?
>>32969616that's why i prefaced that shes a nuisance even in good talkflow collab, because kfp always come up with those bs excuses for Missus MEMEMEME.because if you have to yell a word 15 times in a row to "fill the air" while the other girls are trying to speak maybe niji is your destination after all.
>>32969254First off - why the fuck would we use floors as the sign of total audience still watching? You know what else is going to fuck with Tempus' floors? The fact that immediately after the Mori collab was also when they started doing multi-hour streams instead of being confined to 1 hour. It's also when they started overlapping with each other (which as has been proven repeatedly, is the biggest issue they have). Why wouldn't we look at peaks which actually show off the maximum number of people who might watch a stream? Floors are useful, but they don't indicate real popularity - just the core group of viewers that will always watch streams. But let's ignore how stupid this is. Ok, explain this one. His second West of Loathing stream - pre mori - peaked at 4.8k (down 3k from his last one at 7.1k ) but the third (post-mori) peaked at 4.4k. Despite being the third part of a game that really drags after the first hour or so, he only lost 400 viewers between parts (which is about the expected variation between streams). If you say "well those 400 left after Mori" then you reveal how worthless your theory is - you leave no room for natural variation that happens between streams. You could see a 50 viewer difference in a 5k stream and consider it evidence of your theory.
>>32969757Mumei zatsudan isn't even talking half the time. It's just making autistic noises
>>32969731>Mysta and Vox mogged by MumeiKek
>>32969731>Others: Gold: 1...It's that infamous Sara's minecraft one, isn't it?
>>32969757what are you babbling on about?
>>32967161>>32969798
>>32969277So what happens when Kiara peaks above 10k later, do her numbers just not get counted anywhere?
>>32969285Sisters seething because they keep losing. This board cycles through hate targets ; sometimes mori, sometimes gura, sometimes ame, sometimes Kiara and so on. hating on Kiara is nothing new.
>>32969833TLDR EN has more dead air and don't know how to fill them.
I would assume it'd go up and up as the time passes and neets wake up but it's just stagnating...
>>32969822>brown gura
>>32967383>>32968516Tomboy Subaru in an oversized yellow hoodie really activates the neurons. Ui-mama please do the needful
>>32967161>>32969850
>>32969542Man, SUper3D Kekson should be made as an analog horror or something>>32969858Yeah lol, it's basically doesn't matter even if she Z'd to fucking 60k now
>>32969731>23x:mumei>22x:vox, mystaBUT THE SISTERS TOLD ME HOLOEN IS NOTHING WITHOUT GURA??? sasuga, gura lite.
>>32969285He is trying to bait people here because kiara already said that her comment were about irly friemds trying to exploit her and not holo members
>>32969872Only schizos care about dead air. Maybe you're too used to constant japanese screeching and "humu humu". For example, the bulk of big name streamers EN don't constantly yap their mouth.
>>32967161>>32969896
>>32969731>23x: Mumei>10x: Baelz, Kronii>8x: FaunaSo we're in agreement that Fauna is the runt of Council, right?
>>32969727My man, I'm not referring to retarded "we don't speak each other's language" collabs between EN and JP. The context was chicken constantly yapping her fucking mouth in EN collabs. That's unneeded.
>>32969285Won't collab with males, so Twittersisters are malding
>>32967161>>32969981
>>32969731>GOLD>6x: Kiara>5x: InaIdk why I found this so funny
>>32970013Yes, hence the Fauna line.
>>32967161>>32970030
>>32969406koyori still does va work and still works for a small online tv shit and other shit for example
>>32969285>egg egg egg eggthis isn't /hlgg/. as much as you want it to be true, complaints about kiara's voice or attitudes do not go away just because you've taken over /hlgg/ and shout egg at everyone making them there. there's a reason they are consistent, and its not some uber schizo who's in every thread about the subject
>>32970013Yes, now you can stop talking about it since the whole thread agrees with you
>>32970013>Bae abusing collabs on her channel means she's better than FaunaThis is just as bad as people saying she's better than Fauna because she's been nonstop playing buffshit since the start of the month. Christ.
>>32970025in that day tempus guild was blessed that at least one of the screeching monkeys of EN swore to never collab with em.They already have ollie, bae and mori, give the homos some slack
>>32970113How? Is her day longer than 24 hours?
>>32970055Mumei line. Since the sisters like to call council shitters and failures, some nijiEN livers should have more cripple golds than mumei right? Surely.
>>32970115I don't even watch her but you sound pretty insane
>>32967161>>32970134
Noir sub 3k morning stream. It's over.
>>32970157she sleeps like 3 hours and if you see some of the other stuff she's literally going to die
>>32969450Mama rat and MamaRyS were right in trying to get them to study.
>>32969872Sorry I don't see it you sound biased
>>32970113Koyori is legitimately going to overwork herself, she's going to Marine or Pekora her voice within a few years.
>>32970179thank you for your sacrifice
>>32967161>>32970178
>caring about sub 10k shittersroflmao
>>32970189She joined Hololive almost a year ago, she should be dead by now.
>>32970179Still have no idea why he thinks this time slot is viable
>>32967161>>32970230
>>32967161>>32970300
>>32969347>VR stream>Ame channellol
>>32970179B-but 4k is his floor....
>>32970288there has to be some codependency with altare somewhere, how they are "favourites" between them, and how they both jumped at the morning/eu slot.
>>32970288The old man wakes up early and goes to work
>>32969731>Vox mogged by a retarded owl
>>32970435>>32967161
TEMPUS 3K DOOOOORRYAAAAAAAA
>>32970228>A few yearsNot even
>>32969885Its her voice it filters new people which leaves you with just different timezones of kfp.
>>32967161>>32970511
>>32970538Sad recline
>>32970584It's his third MS paint stream in the past week, these aren't really that entertaining.
>>32970538>people thought he would be a 6-7k streamerGrim
Noir was talking a bit about his schedule next week and besides the worm collab another interesting thing is that magani, altare, and himself got invited to join offline tv and friends weekly among us stream for the week.
>>32970538recline after the female collabs arent real they said
Damn, sisters are seething
>>32970639wait do those vods still move milions of views?
>>32967161>>32970568
>>32970639oof
>>32970639>got invited to join offline tv and friends weekly among us stream for the week.so they are doing the ollie route thengrim coming from the guy who said that stuff about solo content
>>32970702>>32967161
>people now realize if there's a girl streaming over the boys, unless it's a 5man collab, the boys would suffer from it because the tourists prefer the girls anyway
>>32970639holy shit tempiss really is trying to integrate themselves with the twitch fleshstreamer scenewho the fuck is signing off on this shit
>>32969143>Imagine in the entire western vtubing scene, your colleague gave you the cold shoulder while Pomu responded well when conversing with you, of course you will try to help her out a bit.Again, fine with it early on since it wasn't very bad, but at one point NijiEN management made it perfectly clear that the collab was never going to happen. She won't stop shilling Pomu.> Isn't that enough? It would be, if I was part of her audience. But I watch other ENs, which is why I prefer her isolated from the rest (especially those I watch).That sort of mindset is infectious to girls who don't know any better.If they did start distancing themself from Kiara, I have a lot more hope for the branch as a whole.
>>32970639> invited to join offline tv and friendsOh Tempus are definitely commie agents
kek Risu and some Prism Project girl showed up
>>32970771>which strangely wasnt the case before the mori collab
>>32970764>>32967161
>>32970813As usual, Mori and her obese ass ruin everything.
>>32970639LOL they gonna speed run reclining to 1k.They are just dumb to think I gave them a chance for two weeks.
>>32970833>>32967161
>>32970639>magani, altare, and himself got invited to join offline tv and friends weekly among us stream for the week.This is like 1 step away from collabing with NijiEN and Vshojo. Don't they show up in those pretty frequently?
>>32969447Anon, I have been with Girls like that before where they obsess over being center of attention, also an extrovert but if you don't talk to them for 2 dayseverything is thenYou are avoiding herYou hate herYou don't find her interestingBelieve me they will keep searching till they find someone next to pamper them
>>32970877WOW! blame mori, not the ass
>>32970639I wonder if this will pay off since Twitch is killing itself.
>>32970639welp lucky I only stick in JP scene, good luck EN fellas
>>32970639I fucking hate magni.
>>32970639Is this real? I don't see any mention of it in MANS. Imagine if someone just made it up because no one else is listening to confirm kek.
>>32970170I can literally only tolerate her HoloTalk collabs, and I never watch them live because I can't skip her translation bits.
>>32970940>>32967161
>>32970960MM in my days was Majora's Mask, but now is Mori and Magni, the downfall of the brotuber timeline.
>>32971003Wouldn't be the first time innit.
Yagoo got scammed by Tempus LOL.
>>32971021>>32967161
>>32971027>not Mega ManAnd don't even pretend you called it Rockman.
>>32971002> forgot pic
Kind of weird how the attitude torwards tempus and especialy nowa completely changed in one month
So this is what happens when Niji only have 1 gold 11 days into a month
>>32970228Well I mean Pekora and Marine seem to really like her, ironically Miko feel very distance from the supposed 35P
>>32971003dont know about noir but otv crew has been hinting some sort of collab with vtubers so i would not be surprised if this was the case
>>32967161>>32971068
>>32967161>>32971136
>>32971099Nothing has really changed desu. The only timezone which seems to be like this is EU time.
>>32970639Sounds like the classic Holostars route of collabing outside the box.
>>32970639OTV is finally getting an in with HoloEN soon. Can't wait for Gura to finally collab with Syukkuno!
>>32970639>magani, altare, and himselfAxel...
do what you want with this information
>>32971188No eu anons were sucking nowa cock a few weeks ago and said he will mog kiara and proof that yuros watch streams just not kiara
>>32971099oh no ive never changed my attitude towards them which was neutral at best. i just kept on telling people that they might have a sizable beggar and unity audience which will fuck off after each collab with the girls.im not drawing conclusions just yet but from the fact their "natural recline" started after that collab with mori there might be something there.
>>32970618He talks a lot less during them, which goes completely against his strength. Can't believe I left one of his streams to watch Kiara instead.
>>32971108Fans and Idol relationships don't work.
>>32971226Axel is still pure
>>329671616-17 win for nijisanji, hololive is dead
>>32971228>>32967161
>>32971226 Except for Axel, the rest are in the US right?
>>32967161>>32971283
>>32970113>>32970157>>32970228>>32970539Do you reps. There's a group of identical quintuplets voicing the Koyori character.
>>32971108oshi-fan relationships are always weirdhowever miko actually trusts her to do shit for her, so it's not that bad
>>32971188>forgetting about how eu anons were saying that they will do good in eu time since euros will tune in to brotubers
So how many people do you think join holobox through these multi-million views MVs?
>>32967161>>32971327
>>32971099I really don't like the twitch crowd so that is really souring me on them.
>>32971340that's before they revealed themselves as commie scum!
>>32971371a small percentagemost of the people join through clips
>>32967161>>32971372
>>3297137110k
>>32971099People overhyped them and I thought they were boring to begin with, even after giving them a chance for the first month. Now they're trying to mingle with the twitch crowd so it's gone from boring to "please fuck off"
Is there any other big streamers group that distance themselves from those lsf twitch gang (not counting the girls themselves)? I feel like StarEn has no other option of exposure aside from them. Maybe youtubers instead of streamers?
Quick comparison so far, although I still expect Kiara to peak higher later with the karaoke/collab. Was her first anniversary that much more entertaining? I didn't watch it.
>>32971340EU is a dead market, I live in EU and I dont want more EU talents from Holo.Anime is soo niche, vtubing is non-existent to even have a culture around.Eu will only work if you release country specific chubaas pandering to their audience
>>32971455First anniversary had call ins from Huke and her Mom iirc
>>32971247Anyone who believed that was a moron. Even at their debut buff peak Kiara was probably a stronger streamer than any Tempus despite a lower average. >>32971340Anon, he's getting 3.3k on a stream with a lot of dead air. He's doing fine. Despite what the "Collab debuff" schizos would have you think the biggest determinent for stream CCV is going to be buff-debuff. These streams are probably debuff for Noir so of course he will get these numbers for them. He got 4.8k at this time slot two days ago.
>>32971473>>32967161
>>32971340EU might be a dead market but EU timeslot is not a lots cause. You can get pretty good number in those time. And if you stream a lot, this time slot can be a nice bonus.
>>32971455Look at the time it started. She started right smack dab in the middle of bumfuck nowhere time this time, whereas last time she started at 5 hours later. She was able to snag viewers that had finished watching JP or were otherwise fresh for the day, whereas tuning into a stream that's been going on for 5 hours? Nah no thanks man.
>>32967161>>32971530
>>32971455It was her first anniversary+ it wasn't 12 hours long+ both huke and mamatori were in it. Today isn't even her anniversary
>>32971456Where are you from in EU ? While vtubing is dead, anime is definitely not niche, especially in France
>>32971099What killed them for me is them inviting unwanted people inside the walled garden. Good thing thing I'm a JP only fan but I feel bad on the EN fans.
>>32971456>Anime is soo niche, vtubing is non-existent to even have a culture around.He says as half of EU cons have chuubas in them
>>32967161>>32971578
>>32971455Anon look at the time where she started the 1st anniversary and the 2nd onIt was dumb of her not to do the same time as the 1st
would Cover go All in on the NijiEN route to save Tempus?
>>32971503>>32971586Oh, is she still doing another anniversary stream on another day then?
>>32971635No, this is her anniversary stream. The only other anniversary stream won't be on her channel, and it'll be a 5 man collab
>>32967161>>32971624
>>32971634they didnt even do that in starsjp where it was worse what makes you think theyre gonna do it in tempus who is doing relatively well to starsjp
The more interesting thing is her SCs aren't really doing so hot either, though she was supposedly the SC queen
>>32967161>>32971679
>>32971455>>32971706R.I.P chicken
>>32971706its the sayingact like a nijiget niji numbers
>>32971635No she probably did it today so she wouldn't overlap moris stream and had some free time before the myth stream since it is at 2 am for her
>>32971081nah i won't i was a snes child, briefly into n64 then psx. no nes in my house.
>>32971003They’re trying real hate to ignore it kek
>>32971696NTA but they could do that to capitalize on the StarEN momentum. Not that they'd ever do that though when there's still THAT other half of HoloEN.
>>32971634No chance as long Gura and Kiara is there.
>>32971753ah so its moris fault again figures
>>32967161>>32971769
>>32971706I assume it'll peak later near the end during the last section? I don't know how SC distribution works for these endurance streams but I remember Fauna farming a decent amount during her karaoke.
>>32971591>>32971604Anime is niche anon, each country apart from Netherlands or Scandanavian only watch Anime in their own language, most people hate speaking English including France btw.You cannot release a general English speaking 5 vtubers and expect hololive level of viewers for them, it wont work.I get irritated whenever there is a discussion of new branch and vocal minority asks for EU, when they don't even watch current vtubers
>>32971706Should stop siphoning her already small fanbase to somewhere else then. At least if you really want to be le unity do it to the homos instead, don't do it to the other branch like fucking namedropping Millie, Enna, and Pomu while they prohibited from saying your name on-stream. Fucking retarded chicken
>>32971706The stream is kinda meh in general really, pretty low energy at best and too structured about not extending certain sectionsIt's like worse Twitch stream really, only thing missing is react content
>>32970639Yep that’s the last straw, fuck these faggots
>>32971455On top of everything else everyone said, Fauna already did this gimmick like a week or two ago
>>32967161>>32971816
>>32971834
>>32971788would unironically kill their momentum and kill holoen in the processyou have to remember that the nijien incline was fueled by luxiem through the zhang fujos so unless they pander to that then they will never incline.
>>32971870Kiara should just have went for 24 hours karaoke, it always works for bringing in viewers
>>32971872>>32967161
>>32971892>kill holoen in the processThey just did
>>32971870I also think Fauna just had a way better schedule than Kiara, with streams that are a callback to her earlier stuff and then finishing off strong.
>>32971604and yet the eu vtuber market is dead
>>32967161>>32971911