/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

MOONA LEWDS, NOW

NGL the kanauru 3D live with gura and Kiara is better than the official 3D live

>>33311944
wait for the tally impatient one

Shion's comeback is kinda strong.

*YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY*
>59,604: Suisei (Hololive)
>38,413: Gura (Hololive)
>32,731: Miko (Hololive)
>25,752: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>24,987: Koyori (Hololive)
>24,234: Pekora (Hololive)
>19,495: Subaru (Hololive)
>18,346: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>18,283: Shion (Hololive)
>15,182: Polka (Hololive)
>15,113: Miko (Hololive)
>15,105: Hal (Neo Porte)
>14,435: Luna (Hololive)
>14,335: Fubuki (Hololive)
>13,703: Sasaki (Nijisanji)
>13,585: Korone (Hololive)
>13,250: Koyori (Hololive)
>13,057: Ame (Hololive)
>12,009: Haachama (Hololive)
>11,614: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>11,135: Botan (Hololive)
>11,075: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>10,912: Fubuki (Hololive)
>10,431: Mysta (Nijisanji)

>>33311445
Holos that shilled Moona:
>Roboco
>Miko
>Sora
>Fubuki
>Subaru
>Pekora
>Towa
>Watame
>Polka
>Koyori
>Lui
>Kiara
>Bae
>Mori
>Like every ID
>Achan
>Nadoka
>Yagoo

So far Gura has something like:
>Achan
>Fubuki
>Ame
>Ina
>Bae
>Possibly Kiara?

Basically nothing yet

So how do we feel today, holochads?

>>33310870
Nah, If you listen to her karaokes i'd put her much closer to a starting out indie artist. The closest I can think of with the same vibe is Mumei.
Contrasting with Moona and Risu who have the experienced artist/diva feel as mentioned by several HoloJP talents.

https://youtu.be/mUC_F1eTKUM

What did we learn last thread anons? If you want good numbers, better make some W friends who got your back.

What is the most realistic guest list for Gura's 3D live?

>>33311974
>kanauru 3D live
I don't like his animation style actually.

>>33311988
>SEPTEMBER 2022 GOLDS
1) Pekora (Hololive) - 54,023 - Rust
2) Ayame (Hololive) - 47,845 - Return stream
3) Ayame (Hololive) - 118,899 - 4th anniversary 3D live
4) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 87,145 - New outfit reveal
5) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,743 - Dragon Quest Monsters
6) Marine (Hololive) - 45,140 - Super Smash Bros.
7) Sora (Hololive) - 84,063 - 5th anniversary 3D live
8) Botan (Hololive) - 88,981* - 3D birthday stream w/NePoLaBo
9) Miko (Hololive) - 39,905 - HoloCure new update
10) Marine (Hololive) - 50,041 - HoloCure new update
11) Subaru (Hololive) - 41,806* - Persona 4 Golden
12) Tsukasa (Indie) - 56,583 - Streamer league mahjong
13) Pekora (Hololive) - 43,118 - Rust
14) Miko (Hololive) - 34,041 - Rust
15) Suisei (Hololive) - 59,604 - Karaoke + announcement

>PER COMPANY
13x: Hololive
1x: Indie, Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
3x: Pekora
2x: Ayame, Marine, Miko
1x: Botan, Fuwa, Sora, Subaru, Suisei, Tsukasa

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
163x: Hololive
84x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
4x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
32x: Pekora
16x: Aqua, Kuzuha, Miko, Salome
10x: Subaru
9x: Nijisanji
8x: Marine
6x: Hal, Hololive
5x: Kanata, Mio, Suisei, Toya
4x: Flare, Fuwa, Gura, Noel, Okayu, Towa
3x: Ayame, Chloe, Choco, Mayuzumi, Polka
2x: Ange, Botan, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Maimoto, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Shion, Sora, Tsukasa
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Natsume, Nene, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

Botted streams?
Botted streams

>>33311978
she usually hangs out in the 15k range so it's not that big a buff

>>33311978
Well she have permanent gura buff.

>>33311974
Reine, by far, had the best Kanauru 3D live

>>33312007
jps actually hate ens lmao

>>33311974
Its not. Cover literally axed that one 3d Gura project to save their asses.

>>33311869
i don't think Cover will even accept her at HoloID even if Moona recommends her through sheer nepotism. she doesn't even speak indog lol.

>Moona invited Millie to holoID
Is this fucking real?

>>33312053
Not surprised after the way the EN fanbase acted after the Myth debuts.

>>33311974
is this your new shitposting angle nijitranny? just cry in your discord like you always does.

>>33312028
(Not all of them of course)
Myth, Umisea, Shion, Okayu
Pekora and Suisei if you are high on hopium

Are views or watch time more important for money making? And does anyone have the real data on watch time besides the actual talents?

Bros, luxiem chinks sisters are harassing lam.

the absolute state of niji

>>33312028
Mori, Pekora, Shion, Ina

All Odds against Gura EN timeslot is curse the past few week and the fucking Worms collab gonna split the fanbase more.
Still gonna believe on Gura or else EN slot is screwed not just for Holo but Niji.

It's only gonna get worse isn't it...

September events

Hololive
16) Subaru anniversary, Moona 3D debut
17) Iofi 3D debut
18) Risu 3D debut, Gura 3D live
20) HoloID mini 3D live

Nijisanji
16) Kuzuhacup
17) Kuzuhacup
18) CRcup (Kuzuha)
28) Kuzuhaday
30) Nijifes fantasia

prediction
15) Holo gold
16) Niji gold (Nijisanji official ch)
17) Niji gold (Nijisanji official ch)
18) Holo/Niji gold (Gura ch/Kuzuha ch)
19) Holo gold
20) Holo gold

16th - 17th Kuzuhacup
16th - 18th HoloID gen 1 3D
16th - 17th Kuzuhacup
18th - Gura 3D live
18th - CRcup 9.5
18th - Powerpro 2021 vs 2022 champion showcase
30th - Nijifes day 0 fantasia (girl group concert)

>>33312047
I think you people mistook the 3d assets as kanauru. He only does animation and camera work. The filters are honestly annoying

>>33312116
sigh..... why?

don't know where else to post this but the holox thread has been archived for 4 hours and there's still no new one
i also post there but i don't want to make a new one because im sick of that one autistic luifag

>>33312104
kind of grim. doubt it'll get much more than 60k

If someone says anything about Holo's 3D tracking just link them https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKxfD6s1qew

>>33312025
Pekomoon forever

>>33311704
yes, at 15-1-1 in a 30 day month even if niji won all the other days it would be 15-14-1

>>33312053
Gura is the EN with the least amount of interaction with JP though.

>>33312116
>lam
Why the fuck those retards harass milord's artist

Alright, real talk here.
What are the numbers looking like for the Worms collab tonight?

>>33307002
>Thinking that Mysta will lose cripple gold to a 9k stream while playing Horror
>It's still rising. It might take a bit of time, but he will probably beat Irys later. It has only been around 30'

Still waiting for the 9800 mysta horror stream in CN primetime with no overlaps

>>33311869
Sry for crossposting but why would a Flip join ID branch anyway. There gotta be a time she'd be required to speak Indonesian and that wouldn't go well for her.

>>33312053
It’s probably not intentional. Though I do wonder why Koyori didn’t promote Gura’s live on Asakoyo. It’s those micro decisions JP do that definitely stand out

>>33312175
there's no use replying to them.

>>33312016
WINNING

>>33312046

>>33312215
as far as i know, koyori needs to ask permission for everything that appears on the show, so you'll never know if it's up to her or not

>>33312199
She's also fungus' mama

Why is Rosemi doing her karaoke at such a shit timeslot?

>>33307002
SISTER?! WHAT HAPPENED HERE?! I THOUGHT MYSTERIO IS GONNA BEAT IRYS SUB 10K CRIPPLE GOLD?!

>>33311974
It boils down to personal taste. For me, I dislike Kanauru's style.

>MIC CHECK! 1 2! 1 2!
>Uhum
>ATTENTION!
>Since it's that time of the day, HERE WE GO
>*INHALE*

>NIJICOPE LIST - FULLY SOURCED EDITION
Numbered for your convenience and easy referencing.
Full list here (includes the removed shitposts, falseflags, schizoposts, non-niji and unsourced copes) :https://rentry.org/nijicopes/raw

** FRAMED IN GOLD - Direct from Anycolor and the Livers themselves **
> #01 Holo's forcibly acquired audience vs Niji's natural slow and steady growth (>>20457274) (<span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/31785447)</span>
> #02 Luxiem/Noctyx earn as much as Holo JP (>>19597187)
> #03 Council didn't do as well Luxiem (>>19597187)

** CLASSIC **
> #04 Nijisanji has SOUL/Quality (>>>/jp/31465719<span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/35484805>>>/jp/36325406)</span>
> #05 Nijisanji has better chemistry (>>4962776<span class="deadlink">>>5591760>>6383777)</span>
> #06 Nijisanji is building a sub-culture/VTubing culture (>>10983732<span class="deadlink">>>11015414>>11105922)</span>
> #07 Superchats don't matter, Nijisanji has more merch sales [no evidence] (>>>/jp/25750975<span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/30117222>>>/jp/31524177>>>/jp/34129071>>>/jp/34630791)</span>
> #08 Nijisanji has more creative freedom (>>>/jp/25078156<span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/35915283>>>/jp/36404268>>>/jp/36412049)</span>
> #09 Foreign audience bad, local Nips good (>>>/jp/23900990<span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/31522946>>>/jp/31923947>>2689172>>3342175>>3343926>>3555435)</span>
> #10 Nijisanji is more popular than Holo in Japan (>>>/jp/27419919<span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/29231034>>>/jp/29352658>>>/jp/34766571>>1843302>>3773035>>7615028)</span>
> #11 Google trends (>>1787083<span class="deadlink">>>1784574>>2871777)</span>
> #12 This will be the end of Hololive/Holobubble will burst (>>10226380<span class="deadlink">>>10959272>>11111437)</span>
> #13 YouTube Trends (>>11812348)
> #14 Niji is solidifying their other markets while keeping their strong home market (>>12171645)
> #15 Cover and hololive fans use bots (>>3225905<span class="deadlink">>>4283312>>24804708)</span>
> #16 Hololive's restrictive management will cause their talents to eventually graduate (>>8445392<span class="deadlink">>>11875343)</span>
> #17 Fortune telling a.k.a "J-just wait, Cover will fuck up something someday" (>>14561348<span class="deadlink">>>14752560>>14752914>>21529067>>22935912>>23288417)</span>

** NUMBERS **
> #18 Ratiocope (>>5536896<span class="deadlink">>>8648645>>13972862>>14457547>>20388935)</span>
> #19 Dead cat bounce (>>10959272<span class="deadlink">>>13922827>>14015995>>14198900)</span>
> #20 Quality numbers (>>14001847)
> #21 Just combine the peak CCV of all our streams and we win (>>13902618)
> #22 Statistics are fake numbers (>>15032001)
> #23 Luxiem has a better profit margin than Holofes (>>20201927)
> #24 Vox has the FASTEST SUB GROWTH in VTuber History (>>21373805<span class="deadlink">>>21374368)</span>

** MERCH AND SPONSORS **
> #25 Holo merch is underproduced to create artificial scarcity (>>>/jp/32410399<span class="deadlink">>>5902529>>15489004>>16388154)</span>
> #26 Holomerch sold out means the company regretted the collab (>>12121308)
> #27 You buy merch - even if it's shit - to support the liver, not to actually use it (>>23937339)
> #28 Sponsorships are retarded (>>12109798)
> #29 Associating with Hololive is toxic for Bushiroad's growth because China (>>19752522)

** IT DOESN'T COUNT **
> #30 Concerts and return streams don't count (>>11676374)
> #31 Outfit reveals don't count (>>14891587)
> #32 Pre-recorded lives are technically premiers and shouldn't count (>>12296330)
> #33 Koshien is not an event (>>12127247)
> #34 Bookwalker doesn't count (>>19629617)

** GENERAL **
> #35 Holocope list (>>12296493<span class="deadlink">>>12457630>>14120649)</span>
> #36 Niji is still #1, they just removed it from their webpage to show humility (>>11747638)
> #37 Trailers are the same as advertisements (>>10992803<span class="deadlink">>>10992938)</span>
> #38 Holo EN was a desperate gambit to find an audience (>>11753740)
> #39 Hololive just got lucky to have clippers and algorithm on their side (>>>/jp/29352541)
> #40 *Selen delusion here* (>>8854844<span class="deadlink">>>12533326>>12955114>>13021182>>13045705>>13445167>>14879823)</span>
> #41 Nijifans are more passionate about their livers and will leave dislikes to show their engagement (>>12085330)
> #42 Nijisanji helps their livers by promoting the main channel so that viewers will trickle down to smaller channels (>>12755553<span class="deadlink">>>12755712)</span>
> #43 Nijifans will only watch a stream and Holofans will watch 3-4 so the Niji refresh rate is higher (>>17835784)
> #44 Niji is smart for not wasting money on useless conventions/concerts (>>20202005)

And when all else fails...
> #45 Blatant Lying
> Vox is "higher" than Gura (>>24420454)
> Vox got a bigger billboard (>>24424746)
> Mika is the Queen of ID (>>24426268)
> SEA belongs to Mysta (>>24423909)
> Calling a straight graph a "worm" (>>24427484)

And after all that...
> #46 Playing the Victim :>>5836502<span class="deadlink">>>11753740>>13804174>>14751831</span>

>>33312145
I remember seeing some post about gura not having 15+ stream since February.

>>33312116
for anyone who is curious
>LAM draw luxiem.
>Lucasis feel that Luca draw by LAM is ugly but Vox's one looks good
>think it is favoritism.
>cursing LAM on twitter

>>33311988
>SEPTEMBER 2022 GOLDS
1) Pekora (Hololive) - 54,023 - Rust
2) Ayame (Hololive) - 47,845 - Return stream
3) Ayame (Hololive) - 118,899 - 4th anniversary 3D live
4) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 87,145 - New outfit reveal
5) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,743 - Dragon Quest Monsters
6) Marine (Hololive) - 45,140 - Super Smash Bros Ultimate
7) Sora (Hololive) - 84,063 - 5th anniversary 3D live
8) Botan (Hololive) - 81.036 - Birthday 3D stream
9) Miko (Hololive) - 39.905 - Holocure
10) Marine (Hololive) - 50.041 - Holocure
11) Subaru (Hololive) - 36.779 - Persona 4 Golden
12) Miko (Hololive) - 38.454 - Rust
13) Pekora (Hololive) - 43.118 - Rust
14) Miko (Hololive) - 34.041 - Rust
15) Suisei (Hololive) - 59.604 - Karaoke

>PER COMPANY
14x: Hololive
1x Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
3x: Miko, Pekora
2x: Ayame, Marine
1x: Botan, Fuwa, Sora, Subaru, Suisei

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
165x: Hololive
83x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
2x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
33x: Pekora
17x: Miko
16x: Aqua, Kuzuha, Salome
10x: Subaru
9x:Nijisanji
8x: Marine
6x: Hal, Hololive
5x: Kanata, Mio, Suisei, Toya
4x: Flare, Gura, Noel, Okayu, Towa
3x: Ayame, Chloe, Choco, Fuwa, Mayuzumi, Polka
2x: Ange, Botan, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Maimoto, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Shion, Sora
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Natsume, Nene, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

>>33312202
POVs?

>>33312215
It is intentional. Only correct to promote upcoming events one at a time

>>33312090
Probably but she couldn't get in no matter how hard Moona shilled for her because she can't speak the language.

>>33312202
15K min 20K max

>>33312280
Because otherwise she'd be overlapping Fulgur and Mysta. This is the best time for her, since a majority of her audience is SEA

I still believe that lots of HoloJP have huge respect to Moona because PekoMoona had the same impact to hololive the same way Siro and Nojaloli's collab did to the vtuber industry.

strongest luxiem can't even get 10k on a horror game anymore??

>>33312053
I think the bigger indictment is that not even all of EN has shilled Guras live.
If her branch isn't batting for her, why should the JPs.

>>33312275
Exactly. Why the fuck they harasses him or this is just another episode of fujosis harassing anyone because why not

>>33312182
Pekora didn't even bother to show up as a guest. Some friend ya got there Moona.

>>33312307
>>33312116
Where's the fuckin proof, I don't see any bitching anywhere

Yes, Yes well done Holobronies, well done, However! The week's not over yet.
Tomorrow's Gold is ours for the taking.

>>33312150
>prediction
>16) Niji gold (Nijisanji official ch)
Slip king once again did not do well as expected.

>>33312215
EN is irrelevant. Why would JP waste resources on promoting it?

>>33312309
Based
>>33312034
Cringe

>>33312116
I wanred you about going into china nijibros...

>>33312290
Oof, this is what spamming gets you

>>33312187
Not sure if that's really true anymore after season 2 of Rust. I'd say Kronii is probably the one who interacts the least nowadays.

>>33312290

Reminder this is the 3D shit holokeks pride themself on. That supposedly better than niji tracking fuck off.

>>33312090
seriously speaking, no. it was just a joke.
BUT, she could've just join EN2 at that point (or she was auditioned for it but failed).

https://twitter.com/usama222555/status/1570784374072954882
Moona's gonna get stoned when she gets back to Indonesia

>>33312215
You help promote something when you have more reach and want to get people to watch it. Not a single holoJP has more reach than Gura, them promoting it won't do a thing.

>>33312214
Don't know much about SEA countries but I believe Polynesian islands have almost identical languages or something and an Indo can learn Philipino in a month, likewise a Philipino can learn Indo in less than a month. Millie in HoloID wouldve been funny tho

>>33312342
>with clickbait title too

>>33312307
Trully the cancer of vtubing community.
>>33312116
Very toxic community

>>33312280
if she starts early, she might steal cripple gold. imagine that, cripple gold being decided by a stream at the cutoff for jp streams.

>>33312398
where do you even find shit like this?

>>33312334
PekoMoona did more for Vtubing than the entire Myth meme combined.

>>33312398
kek

>>33312290
IRyS won EN Gold? Nice! Love IRyS!

>>33312307
jesas that is one surefire way to make him disown Vox and Fungus. do they really wanna do this?

>>33312313
Think there is a commentator and 1 player PoV. Don't know who is streaming them though.

>>33312392
lose with some grace pls ඞ

>>33312398
>another massacre cleansing is going to occure over vtubers

>>33312269
I could totally believe that she asked Gura but Gura never got back to her.

>>33312032
>animation
That was mocap, anon. Now, composition...

>>33312389
I'm talking about Myth here. Mori hangs out with JP. Kiara and Ame shows they talk to some JPs. Ina definitely is part of JP discord.

>>33312398
that's a bot lol

>>33312360
It may bring numbers, but it would just ruin her live. What will Peko do there?

>>33312449
She is a cutie.

>>33312398
This is just one guy preaching Allah's words using global TTs btw

>>33312449
she won it again, if Moona 3D didn't exist

>>33312371
If the King loses to Iofi the Selen can lose those pounds too. I believe!

>>33312307
Somehow this will be ignored and those drama news channels will keep talking about how toxic Hololive fans are.

bros...

>>33312395

Hololive miss opportunity securing flip fanbase. Instead they get Sana.

> #3 Worldwide
Not bad

>>33312496
gura barely has any connection to hololive whatsoever outside of SNOT.

>>33312363
I dug it here.
normal sisters are fighting with those schizos though.
https://www.plurk.com/m/p/ozr0r0

>>33312398
>Muslims believe in Jesus (puh) more than Christians , I invite you to read about Jesus and Mary (put) in Holy Quran

umm based?

>>33312392
>This well nitpicked frame is proof Niji3D is superior
ogey

>>33312360
>>33312508
Nijiseethe kek

>>33312544
Layla, my love...

>Moona gets almost 90k
>Ollie struggling to stay above 1k
Ah…

>>33312116
>>33312307
just nuke luxiem and their toxic fans

>>33312544
Groomable 2view big2 corpo chuuba? I wonder...

>>33312496
Well that makes sense then, Gura is legendary for never following up with communications.

>>33312544
The world is cruel and unfair. At least they're in a corpo. An indie 2view would have quit by now.

>>33312544
poor tiger girl. didn't she need money for surgery or something? Did she just go to a witch doctor since it's cheaper?

>>33312533
moona isn't EN

>>33312090
I don't know about Millie but Moona has invited indies to HoloID before

https://youtu.be/RC8DJH_i8s0

>>33312544
Grim

FUUUUCK YOU HOYO, SHOULD'VE JUST MADE HONKAI ANIME INSTEAD FUUUUUUUCK

>>33312596
>Ollie struggling to stay above 1k
deserved for bringing ecelebs shit

>>33312635
kek

>>33312473
pretty likely, if you watch asakoyo, you'll start to notice who always gets back to her and who never replies, also she'll show some of the dms sometimes

>>33312544
lele please just come home... you deserve so much better than this...

>>33312544

>>33312603
>groomable
nah, they are 2views but they got attitude.
i've been there anon, being a loyal nijiIDfags are not worth it.

>>33312398

>>33312558
Nice but got cucked by genshit.

>>33311861
And I'm betting your right nut.

>>33312202
The main commentator is on Magni's channel and will have Nowa so I expect 10k at best. The others POVs should be on the 3-5k but we only know about Ame's.

>>33312635
....... wait a minute holup

>>33312398

>>33312635
>graduation
what's happened to her?

>>33312635
Kek, nice one anon

>>33312685
It's multipov? RIP numbers

>>33312571
baffling post

At least NijiEN got cripple gold

Capcom, Sony and Konami streaming their game shows never got trending worldwide in Twitter. No way vtubing is just a niche now.

>>33312711
Anon...

>>33312398
All HoloID's have Reine's protection by simple association, she's fireproof.

>>33312392
Did we say they had better TRACKING? Even with the issues that Niji has at times, that's one thing everyone seems to agree that Niji still has the upper hand in you assmad faggot.

>>33312647
I bet Honkai's MV is still better than Genshin's anime.

>>33312596
she has a real face debuff

>>33312676
nousaigs, stop using Moona as an excuse to post Pekora again.

>>33312748
A-Anonchama...

>>33312685
>The others POVs
There's only 2 PoVs, the players PoV and the commentators PoV.

>>33312635
Mighty kek, you deserve to stay at the bottom of your company now, fucking shitter.

>>33312798
>cripple gold is a 9.6k
jesus christ

>>33312748
bro, you might want to sit down for this...

>>33312748
not even close. FlopRyS reamed Mysta.

>>33312703
Nijiniggers lying once again kek

>>33312635
wait a minute

>WHEN I SAY "FAUNA" YOU SAY "I KNEEL"

FAUNA!
>I KNEEL!
FAUNA!
>I KNEEL!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GbcU5m93uA

>>33312798
moona is not count as EN retard

>>33312778

>>33312028
I want to know is the damned "very special guest" she got. It could either be a Holo that she looks up to or some outside party. If it's a Holo, it could be Suisei since she will never say no to things that promote her music career.

Also
>UMISEA
They need to always try for this one at least, even if we already had them on tap for HoloSummer. Build the brand. Maybe a different group song?

>Mori
>Shion
obvious reasons

>>33312425
So... Has Aia done something like in the picrel?

>>33312876
>Actual Retard
baka

>>33312833
IDs aren't counted by the cripple tallyfag

>>33312833
>insert Fauna's assassins' creed here
Not the first time. This is pretty much another ffa cripple gold day
>which niji still couldn't take anyway

im starting to realize that a 100k is actually way harder than i thought

>>33312589
Nijiseethe? Have you seen that 3D live where the ccv dropped when the guest Pekora sang? Even if it is really a net positive for ccv, can Pekora sing live?
Come to think of it, it would be cool if she has Pekora as a hype girl at the side, with few seconds of interaction.

>>33312798
>not a single en on the big boy tally
positively grim

>>33312874
She's currently reclining though.

>>33312876
>is count
Nice english ESL chama
Also, he was referring to irys

>>33312764
>primarily internet entertainment goes trending on the internet
the audience is glued on the screen

I could go ask my sister and she wouldn't have a clue what vtubing is.

>>33312833
NEVER FORGET

>>33312822
The boys said every one on the tournament can stream their POV if they want to but they will stream over Ame's to do the commentary.

>>33312899
The ENs are barely part of Umisea now.

oh so cripple gold doesn't count if ID gets a five digit win like moona's 3D? all those kobo vs. vox cripple golds before don't count? Moona won both golds you stupid irystocrapstrsgj

>>33312929
Maybe if Rosemi starts early they have a chance? i saw another anon say Mysta was doing a zatsu to redirect to her when she starts.

>>33312876
Retardchama, your eyesight reps...

>>33312936
Ooooo the salt yummy

>>33312935
1 year ago 60k was golden...

>>33312965
Are you retarded?

>>33312899
I don’t think the super special guest is a Holo, so my only thought is Miku. It would be weird for Suisei to be singled out as a “special guest” while the other Holos are just “guests”

>>33312965
very obvious, falseflagger kun.

>>33312899
Mori won't be on it

>>33312899
>it could be Suisei since she will never say no to things that promote her music career.
people seem to forget that Suisei appeared in Robocosan and Aki's 3D lives. She rarely says no. She doesn't need to have something to promote.

>>33312957
is she single? asking for a friend

>>33312966
Kek, nice one anon

>>33312936
take the L lil bro.

>>33312935
>Getting numbers only first army (+ towa) can get is hard

>>33312965
i rate this falseflag a ඞ/ඞ

>>33313005
i think suisei is literally the holo with the most 3D appearances last time someone posted something like that
she never says no

>>33312993
>>33313002
"cripple" gold always included all non JP branches fucking retarded irystocraps

>>33312996
The super guest for gura 3D live are IVE and Blackpink.

>>33312963
>POST THE EDIT
kek, here is the original

>>33312963
Damn, literal side character

>>33309879
I wasn't there, what did she bring the numbers down or something?

>>33312874
I KNEEL!

>>33313047
I thought that was Okayu?

>>33313048
ඞ

>>33313069
no, but her boost was less powerful than laplus iirc

>>33312635
The ghost of Lyrica...
https://twitter.com/Lyrica_ch/status/1561035695694774273

>>33312899
It's someone outside of hololive. Nobody in hololive would be special enough for Gura to say that they are "special guest".

>>33313047
and the ones that got a "no" as an answer is because she couldn't schedule around it to appear.

>>33313048
Why go so far to larp as a retard?

>>33312963
>>33312963
EN is about to get this treatment soon.

>>33313063
holo doesn't respect their en branch that's why I switched to niji

>>33312963
the ruined aqua here

>>33313048
You're seriously retarded
Cripple gold is EN only
Gaijin gold include everyone but JP

>>33312963
>designed for easy to crop

>>33312963

>>33313114
ඞ

>>33312963
put my stinky sakamata on the center and its all good

>>33313048
wheelchair tally is different from the gaijin one, one was made for gura, the other one for kobo

>>33312053
No one hates EN, they just degraded themselves by trying to go Nijisanji route.
Giving up the very niche that making you stand out to become a copycat of your inferior competitor. It's like their management don't even understand Hololive business model. Whoever managing EN should be fired.

>>33312845
nope. it is true. but it is a spambot. Even if the hashtag is #FuckIslam, it would still use that tag.

>>33312007
>Have the entire JP branch as well as all other branches halting their schedules and shilling the stream
In fact, I find it's quite pathetic how Moona didn't get at least 100k with the entire Holo fanbase flooded to her stream. Anyone from Myth would get it easily in those conditions. People simple don't like Moona.

>>33312307
>LAM drawl Luca ugly.
he DID.
so he deserved it

>>33313167
the wheelchair tally was literally made because nijiniggers kepy lying about their numbers

>>33312090
https://youtu.be/RC8DJH_i8s0

>>33313114
Good, hopefully the other ENsharts will make the same mistake so we can fire the EN branch now.

>>33313182
>myth
>100k
it's not 2020 or even 2021 any more.

>>33312965
>>33313048
ඞඞ

Why is this hag so fucking based?

>>33313215
nijiniggers keep saying this, I wonder why?

>>33313182
this even Choco the who of gen1, halted by Suzan got 77k views on her aniversary

i mean, gura is gonna get a 100k
towa did it and i remember those overwatch collabs

>>33312007
I mean the live is in tomorrow morning right?
I assume they'll wake up at 12pm and tweet that they've seen the VOD and that it was cute.

>Kuzuha loses to an ID with a huge tournament on the main channel.
>Holo v Holo and old Umisea shit get deployed.
It's so fucking obvious.

>>33313244
Did she ever get 80k ccv like moona? No? Fuck off

>>33313167
>One was made for gura
nice history revisionism there lol. Cripple tally wouldn't even exist without Luxiemsisters trying to be so smug back then because they thought they gonna beat HoloEN on everyday basis
>When they can't even beat 9.6k guerilla stream now

>>33312978
What do you mean? Eigo wakarimasen.

>>33313215
Most of Myth gets more than Moona so yeah, I’d imagine anyone from Myth sans Kiara under the same conditions would get at least 87k

>>33313254
>choco
>gen1

>>33313258
160k is the minimum for gura proper 3D anon.

>>33313254
>the who of gen1
she's gen2

>>33312016
Winning
careful of division spreaders amongus though

>>33312007
The hate is deserved anyway.

>>33312542
https://youtu.be/0i4VBhm81UU?t=176

>>33313244
Patra plays some good shit. she was playing DMC1 a few days ago.

>>33313167
>made for gura
no

>Holo vs Holo for the nth time
uuuUuuUu Hololive wins
uUuuuUuuu

>>33313258
It's just grudeposting setups and being disengenuous, everyone should be able recognize these patterns at this point.

>>33312046

>>33313254
>gen 1

>>33313315

>>33313328
>under the same conditions
That's the important part. Compare the difference in shilling for Moona compared to Gura.

HOW did THE kind lose???

Why we not including ID on cripple tally again?
Sorry I just timeskipped mid 2022 when we call it gaijin tally then suddenly cripple now and is too shy to ask after

>announced during a fucking unarchived karaoke
>secret guest list
>dogshit timeslot that excludes asia
>her last 3D live only got 60k and her numbers have been on a sharp downward trend since then

>>33313298
holokeks love infighting each other's huh?
what a toxic fanbase.

>>33313409

>>33313430
There are two cripple tallies
>EN
>gaijin

Here's some graph

>>33313409
kawaii peko

I remember during the first outfit reveals when Mori had the prime time JP slot with everyone clearing out and with major funnel she hit 135k. There were lots of people at the time saying there was no way Gura would beat that with her normal timeslot and then she hit 194k. I’m not saying Gura is going to smash records tomorrow or anything but anyone thinking she’s going to get 60k or whatever is just lazily shitposting

>>33312309
Another day, another holo victory
Hololive is simply too strong

>>33313447
ඞ

>>33313460

>>33313447
please stop harassing LAM

>>33313447
Funny how you are always around when it is happening huh, just a coincidence i'm sure

>>33312542
Anon, it's a different culture, >we can't attack them because we don't know how they feel and might hurt them.

>>33313487

>>33313005
Anon, you misunderstand. Promoting is not advertising. Attending an event and showing your skills is a form of promotion, and Suisei is career driven.

>Unarchived Karaoke + Birthday buff
If Rosemi don't hit at least 10k i will be very sad...

>rosemi already 5k
holokek status?

>>33313447
>>32950830

>>33313430
Nah, it's always been a cripple/wheelchair tally. One anon just decided to create gaijin tally to dunk on everyone with Kobo
notice how it almost gone nowadays since Kobo's numbers are stabilizing kek

>>33313509

>>33313526
Didn't she just get raided by Mysta?

>>33312160
What do you guys even discuss there? I thought most of them were on a break.

>>33312034
>84x: Nijisanji
KON KON KITSUNE FUWA KUN

Man, today was fucking amazing.
Pekora literally doing a stream just for Moona, Moona themed, telling her viewers to watch Moona and tweeting about it, she has never done something like that.
She managed to mog Kuzuha with the tournament buff and we even have Towa in the 3d showcase. What a day

>>33313182
>Anyone from Myth would get it easily in those conditions.
Well let's see if the biggest EN vtuber can pass 100k on this Sunday then.

https://twitter.com/andariani3/status/1570786369898938369
Moonafics look like this?

never forget the 120 posts from the same ip that got deleted all at the same time today

>>33313466
I see. But I think I seldom see the gaijin one

>>33313526
Congratulations, you passed the Kiara line

>>33313608
>But I think I seldom see the gaijin one
It takes lots of commitment to attempt to do something on a DAILY basis and actually do it.

>>33313526
>raided by Mysta

Cripple tally is closed, and irys win with her guerrilla 9.6k. LOL and this basically a freebies

>>33313526
New day, so pretty happy that IRyS got cripple gold.

>Rosemi 9k
holokeks status?

>>33313526
I should better hit 10k or else it will be laughed at for days.

>>33313572
she won't even get 60k

>>33313565
mostly just fight, at this point most of the people there are weirdly passive aggressive with each other

>>33312392
> one frame
kek

cripple also includes id

>>33313608
The gaijin one disappeared once Kobo declined

>>33313562

>>33313608
Because the guy who did the gaijin tally just took the EN tally and put in holoIDs into it, and then gave up when he realized he needed to put TW chuubas in there too and there's no easy way to get their numbers

>>33313645
she almost reach it and her stream just start.

>>33312309
so 15-1 with today's Moona gold, that means one more gold to win the month, cant believe we will decide the winner before the 20th

>>33313636
Once the tally drops I hope me and my fellow IRyStocrats are ready to post IRyS lewds. We always do this when IRyS wins. Don't dissappoint!

Quick, predict waht cope would chumbuds and ENtards say when Gura 3D fails to beat Moona 3D?

Jesus christ I never realized how much fanart is there of Pekomoon. Can I get some numbers on that compared to other ships?

>>33312150
>nijinigger predictions
>btfo'd each time

>>33313641
I hope she beats the worms collab, just to prove that Holos and Homos shouldn't mix together.

>>33313519
it's disingenuous to think that she's always thinking of ways to promote her songs, just because she's career focused.

>>33313725
How many JPs have shilled Gura compared to Moona?

>>33313693
>>33313725
Why so much ESL today

>>33313683

>>33313573
>#MoonaHoshinova3D
>#SEVENTEEN
This is the same as the Islam spammer. Using trending tags without regard on anything.

>>33312874
One of the few idols left in EN.

>>33313444
She should really do some sort of pre-live hype stream, or even just a basic game stream where she talks about it (or a zatsu), tonight. She won't of course.

>>33313608
Gaijin tally pretty much only existed for Kobo to shit on Luxiem.

>Even fucking Rosemi is running to CN time these days
It's unironically over for Niji"EN"

>>33313732
Pekomoon > Pekomiko

>>33313674
did you miss your fellow holosisters posting 1 frame of several people using niji home 3d on fuwa's stream and gwelu's 3d debut here? making multiple threads using the same two frames? it's only natural that your method is adopted by the other side

what the fuck am I looking at?

>>33312150
begone, false prophet

>>33313702
I was stuck with the job a couple days ago so if you're not being disingenuous I'd like a break today

>>33313725
If Gura doesn't get 120k I'll cut my balls off

What are the gold contenders for sunday? Risu should get decent numbers, but what does nijisanji have lined up?

>>33313702
No-one wants to post that flop

>>33313766
indo raid because of moona

>>33313627
If I remembered correctly, we always do the gaijin one then it somehow gone when some IDs are inclining past most EN

>>33312963
i really do wonder what they were thinking with that, especially after the shitstorm that was holoX's 3d debut

huh, the holoerror update actually adds a decent amount to the game, the train section has a lot of okakoro in it.

>>33313767

>>33312307
>>33312116
>Nijichinks think Luca is ugly in this artwork
i don't see anyone seething to this though looking at the replies.

>>33313793
Imagine being an original fan and never being able to catch live content anymore cause your oshi panders to china lmao.

>>33313803
A shitty singer with a terrible set list. Seriously she's fucking awful.

Oh. Rosemi is fucking awful.

>>33313808
160k is her floor anon. Your balls is safe

>>33270055
There are Holos with active RMs who literally do get 90% less views when they stream. You probably don't even know about them because nobody cares since they aren't in Hololive. Without the box their views would drop off a cliff. Pekora and Marine would probably be the only ones with 10k+ on normal streams.

>>33313808
she'll be lucky to get half of that. her birthday live only got 60k and she has reclined since then.

>>33313732
I have like 1200+ micomet's fanarts

>>33313828

>>33313799
calm down friend, it's just anime streamers ඞ

>>33313803
she is 9k now holokek

>>33313826
Thanks I'll pirate it

>>33313867
>koyoris online tv dot jpeg

>>33313799
You are actually malding. Wow.
Go back to your vaunted Niji3d with fucking rocks for tits.

>>33313809
Cr cup apex. But daruma will probably mogged kuzuha so silver boy will probably get 40k-50k

>>33313898
kys holokek

>>33313858
Why are you setting up posts that you will blatantly reply to saying “chumkeks are so delusional”

>>33313887
wait.. did she just reenact her tits bouncing scene..

Moona after 3D live (Reine went straight to Tokyo with her private jet)

>>33313955
here you might need this

...did she get another raid?

Rosemi's karaoke probably gonna ended up on 11k-12k. ANything from HoloEN to beat this today?

>>33313887
>no chairs
>no object tracking
nijis can never replicate this

>>33313799
if you wanted a collage, all you needed to do was ask.

>>33313982
Yeah, Fulgur raided too. They had about 7k viewers total, so the rest is all Rosemi's

>>33312544
>>33312591
>>33312603
>>33312605
>>33312619
>>33312642
>>33312663
>>33312663
>>33312666
Fuck off
No pity for nijibeggars.

>>33313982
seething holokek

>>33313763
It's not disingenuous; it's literally common sense. Nobody is saying anything negative about Suisei.

>>33313887
Moona chair > Niji 3D

>>33313868
No matter how many times you post this you don’t get less retarded

I do wonder how Gura's stream is going to play out. The ID girls had more than a week's worth of advertising, constant posting on Twitter, clips of them practicing and talking about their experiences in Japan, and just overall shilling from the rest of Hololive to hype up these coming days. It was nigh impossible for it to fail.

Yet Gura only has less than a week of prep, nearly zero advertising, a singular (1) tweet about her live, a handful of Holos mentioning her live at all (and some don't even include her own gen) and that's pretty much it. Call me a doubter, but I think this may significantly affect her in the end.

>>33313992
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25mgr5CZGaM

>>33313992
We've got 23 hours to find out, (realistically 12)

>>33313867
>who literally do get 90% less views when they stream
There is a reason for that. I know people that know Noel, know Canan but have ZERO idea of the connection between them because
>THEY MAKE IT A POINT TO KEEP THEIR IDENTITIES ABSOLUTELY SEPARATED

Coco and Calli are the exception on that, even Kiara, a fairly well known person in her RM trade (for cosplay enthusiasts, at least), keeps it very well separated.

>>33313982
yeah, from nina apparently

>>33313956
If moona who is a 3k shitter can get 80k gura who has 20k+ median can easily havs 160k floor.

>>33314015
nijiseethe

>>33313882
Ooooh i found the art that is pinned in moona's room

>>33313982
Yep, that's 3 so far.

What's wrong sisters? You said niji event a guarantee gold?

>>33314023
why does nijisanji keep getting assblasted by chairs?

>>33313829
How the hell is Luca ugly here? Can a sister explain it for us

>>33313982
>Nijis need multiple raids to even have a chance
lmao

>>33314055
>160k floor
not funny

>>33314030
60k

>>33313803
unarchived karaoke + raid

>>33313992
already 11k now
probably will hit 16k

>>33314074
It's a PUBG turney anon...

>>33314036
>Collab with homos
I hope we lose then

>>33314060
Oh hey I remember that

>>33314101
rosemi > mumei
lmao

>>33314060

>>33314043
>I know people that know Noel, know Canan but have ZERO idea of the connection between them because
>THEY MAKE IT A POINT TO KEEP THEIR IDENTITIES ABSOLUTELY SEPARATED

>Noel
>keeping it absolutely separated
roru
rumao
how fucking new