/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>33586407
she's trying to grift as always but just ends up strawmanning

food analogy

>virtual intimacy idol
trying to milk the unicorns

>>33586407
>food analogy
>Not even and equivalent analogy
Caring about who a streamer does streams with solely based on immutable characteristics is not a healthy mindset to have.

>>33586538
>>33586567
Man what the fuck happened to this board? It's literally just normies now.

>>33586567
https://www.youtube.com/c/TerumiKoizumiCh/videos

It's what she does best

>>33586567
MILK THIS, MOTHERFUCKER.

>>33586617
twitterfags took over
I'd blame you for not gatekeeping properly, but mods are on their side

>>33586407
She's always right. Still a pretty crappy tuber.

>>33586617
>calling others normies
>uses the word normies instead of normalfag

>>33586407
She actually is. Being upfront and honest about what you want to do is always the better choice.

>>33586538
This isn't /v/ faggot

>>33586886
Yes it is
/vt/ - vidya + tubers

>>33586407
nah, just another Pick me like pippa and kiki

Way to expose that you follow a normalfag who doesn't actually watch idols.

>>33586407
She's right, but she's also Terumi, so...

>>33586407
>Pick me
>correct
choose one please

>>33586407
Says the girl that admitted liking certain orange Holostars on stream

>>33586407
Because we are thinking of the bigger picture outside of just Vtubers we are looking at the overall health of humanity and looking at that picture the NEET's and Unicorns are a cancer that must be excised where it can be.
In an ideal world they would not exist but they do and so we must either try and redeem them where we can or drive them away as our modern society prevents the good people of the world from purging evil.

>>33587071
pick my balls

>>33586407
they always appear after these dramas, coincidence? shark smells blood on the water

>>33586407
Twitterfags will criticize people for countless things, so I don't see why male collabs must be off limits from criticism. If you started off with providing CGDCT and then swerve into something entirely different people have a right to be put off.

>>33586945
wtf I hate potatoes

>>33586407
>analogy falls flat on it's face
pretty sure nobody is advocating for SOLELY coed collabs and nothing else.

>>33587071
Post tits.

>>33587352
stfu terumi

>>33586538
Dimwits need it spelled out for them.

>>33586538
>>33586607
Amerilards literally can not think of another system to use in analogy

>>33586617
The vt twitter accounts, this board was a mistake

>>33586617
It's actually starting to become usable now instead of being a mental illness hub. I welcome it.

>>33586407
He sums it up pretty nicely, yea.

>>33587681
>He
She

>>33586407
yes you are, Terumi

>>33587145
NEET's and Unicorns are a symptom like fever, to purge them is to allow the underlying illness to fester and get worse than it would by simply doing nothing.

>>33586407
Where are the people saying "male collabs only"? Sounds like a yaoi audience that wouldn't give her any views anyhow. Terumi a dumb.

>>33586407
is she getting harassed yet? i hope so

https://youtu.be/GsNUHUtNTak
https://youtu.be/Vrwbm2msg7w
This girl’s made over 3.5 hours worth of lectures about why parasocial relationships are “good”

>>33586407
chances are this literally who has no idea what "orthodox idol" entails

>>33587838

>>33586407
she sounds like a desperate roastie

>>33587890
They are good

>>33587890
based

>>33587890
Terumi sensei wearing a glasses is cute.

>>33587451
>>33587812
>I’d like a burger with no pickles
Here you go sir, a burger with pickles
>Excuse me, I asked for no pickles
Well it’s not like all the burger has pickles on it, you can just eat the parts that don’t have pickles
>that’s not what I wanted though, I wanted no pickles at all period
Why are you picklephobic? Why do you hate pickles? I want pickles on my burger!
>and that’s fine, you can have whatever you want on your burger. I just don’t want any pickles on mine, at all.
Well go somewhere else then!
>ok since you refuse to give me what I want I’ll go to another restaurant then to get a burger and leave like you told me to
H-how dare you leave?!? Toxic entitled picklecorn!!!

kek, someone /here/ already replied

>>33586407
Pick me behaviour

>>33586407
She's literally trying to pick up the excommunicated unicorns. Anyone with a brain should be able to see that.

>>33586407
Do people actually watch her? What kind of views does she get nowdays?

>>33587890
Based, I will watch her now

>>33586407
>2view
as expected, she's really desperate

>>33586407
Shit analogy. The burger shop isn't replacing burgers with chicken, it's just a new thing on the menu.

>>33588279
>She/Her. Queer.
So these are the people tempus brought here

>>33588363
More power to her. She sees a market and goes for it instead of joining a market just to completely alienate it.

>>33588469
Terumi is a vulture for sure but she will be the first of many.
The market has now a demand and it will soon meet it's supply. The indies will feast on Hololive's corpse.

>>33586617
This was a normalfag board from the moment it was spawned. The only non-normalfag discussion surrounding youtubers died when holomyth was announced.

>>33587980
But enough about you

>>33588276
you forgot the part where the restaurant was also promoted as "pickle free" for the last 2 years.

>>33586407
>Virtue Intimacy idol
imagine being that desperate

>>33586407
No, hes abjectly wrong, but also correct accidentally. vtranny mods are seething and nuked my thread but basically holofag banned chicken from being sold. they absolutely have been setting the precident that chicken bad for years, and now that the holowhores have consoldated and pushed back on idolshit it's bound to turn into a bloodbath. If you twitter nogs want to be pertinant about it, send it this faggots way and make sure he knows chicken eaters have been suffering under their idolshit tyranny and we're not going to fucking take it anymore.

>>33586760
original /vt/ was pro /mlp/. of fucking course the mods took twatters side, they cant allow vt to be just as based as us.

>>33588279
>collabs with male
>OH NO THEY ARE IN LOVE. BAN COLLABS
Really easy to see schizos from here

>>33586407
She's correct. It took me years to go back and watch youtubers again after streamers and unicorns took over.

>>33586407
She's mostly correct. Thing is, female content isn't gone... at least not yet. The frequency of these collabs worries me, though.

>>33586617
>now
lol
lmao

>>33586567
I wish to be milked and pampered in return

>>33587145
>>33587781
vtubers themselves are a cancer and a symptom. The issue though is that the unicorns are absolute schizos who don't understand the difference between having a pretend relationship and having a real one. Idolshitters are truly lost souls, beyond waifufaggotry and into the depths of hell.

>>33588279
lmao Terumi destroyed her

>>33588884
>>>/soc/

Get out normalfag

>>33588276
>I’d like a burger with no pickles
>Excuse me (idol), I'd like you to not interact with males ever.
None of you ever did this. You failed step 1 of your analogy because you never told the idol not to interact with men, and none of them ever agreed to it.

You went to the burger joint and the moment you saw they can put pickles on a burger, you whined and bitched and protested the restaurant because you hate pickles, and are a nasty, acrid, salty pickle yourself.

>>33588602
You don't know desperation if you don't know Terumi. Bitch posted nudes on /trash/, she shills herself here and panders in the most blatant ways imaginable. Even Pippa would blush at this whore's behavior.

>>33586407
roastie who failed on life

>>33588982
>retard wants 3d thot to shave head and never have a boyfriend
>I'm the one that belongs on /soc/
stop seething over glorified seiyuus .

>>33588615
>holos banned chicken
Nigger please. Homostars has been their since the beginning. They just don't add it to every menu. Holos sell pizza but they also sell chicken. Sometimes, they sell pizza alone. Some niggers want to have chicken at the side but most people buy the pizza only menu.

>>33586617
/jp/ migrants that stuck around for some reason like me. I've been watching vtuber longer than like 90% of this board and I fucking hate unicorns. Also holy fucking newfag if you're calling >food analogy normie. That and the excessive pro unicorn attitude is a very recent thing in the 4chan chuuba community. You fags used to get shit on before the board split.

>>33587604
She's a flip

>>33588279
Completely missing the point, idols interact with men all the time in a professional manner. Collaberation in playing minecraft is not a live sex celebration, it's a work related venture no matter how casual it seems, (nijis take it to the extreme though but they aren't "idols") It's also fucking retarded to hold anime girl streamers to the same autistic standards as real idols but I guess it just comes with the territory.

>>33588982
>thinks he's not a newfag because he stopped using normie
Back to rk9 ya unwashed neckbeard.

>>33589051
Twitter trannies are absolutely seething

>>33589052
leave normalfag

>>33589087
I don't want chicken on my fucking pizza

the fuck is intimacy idol ? does she sing and perform like idol ? or just GFE chuuba larping as idol ?

>>33586407
roastie

>>33589051
That describes all female vtubers

>>33587977
Explain it.

>>33588279
Of course, it's always some sodomite freak who doesn't understand.

>>33589171
Regular streamer larping as GFE

>>33589231
Which one?

>>33589121
>Back to rk9 ya unwashed neckbeard.
neck yourself troon

>>33586407
go back to /r9k/ roastie

>>33586617
you faggots broke containment with your twitter accounts
banned /vt/ memes etc
shit like that opened the floodgates

>>33589284
https://twitter.com/mercurialblonde

>>33589284
The she/her queer starsfag which explains all the seething on this board

>hmm new controversy how do I use this to shill terumi

>>33588279
>Love ban
That is actually already changing. And relationship ban also does not mean no male collabs. She is just retard just like the unicorns.

>>33588279
>concept of a love ban has existed since the 80s
is she retarded or what ? that has nothing to do with collab with males

>>33587890
Parasocial relationships with streamers are normal. The problem is when they are taken to the extreme, that's all

>>33589386
>>33589401
The joke here was that both of them are degenerate and none of them has idea what they're talking about.

>>33588941
>collab with males is the same as "love ban"
you're retarded

>>33586407
literally who

>>33588276
Based pickleposter

>>33586407
this woman is so desperate for validation it's sad

>>33588615
I've been unhealthily on vt for the past week or so but what the fuck are you on about this is incomprehensible echolalia

>>33589087
>homostars has been their since beginning
retard I'm talking about non seiso non idolshit holos like kiryuu coco. not that any of you nufaggots remember her

>>33588279
>love ban
this shit was debunked years ago

>>33589171
>does she sing and perform like idol ?
Fucking lmao no
>or just GFE
Yes but really bad at it. The kind that is very blatantly groomed and has favorites in chat.

>>33587890
but at the end of the day she is simply BEGGING for my MASCULINE attention, which I won't provide.

>>33586407
Yeah, it's just that they paint everyone that's against male collabs as parasocials or some shit. Putting twitter being the place that loves to use buzzwords aside, you can't just dismiss everyone that's against male collabs as parasocials. There's a good amount of people that just want to see the idea behind idols maintained. But at some point some self-righteous people on that site hopped on the "toxic idol culture" bandwagon and started all this and of course it arguably affected EN the most. Kronii really missed the mark in making this an actual announcement instead of just doing the collab. Everyone knew when she was shown in that worms line-up.

>>33589143
nip shitters like you do not and have never belonged on this site. America has a completely different point of view on idolshit, thats why you faggots constantly have to have containment generals on /a/ for your faggotry. Idolshit is called idolshit here unironically, it's not a meme and tongue in cheek thing, it's abject disgust. No one in the west wants to fuck seiyuus, 3dpd.

>>33589779
>twitter being the place that loves to use buzzwords aside
cope seethe schizo unicorn faggot homobeggar egg nigger-kun

>>33589121
>it's a work related venture
Riiight, because love never blossomed between two friends playing video games together (and hanging out behind the scenes)

>It's also fucking retarded to hold anime girl streamers
Well they're roleplaying as anime girls.

>>33589710
Coco is as idol as you can get. Marine is still in Holo and popular as fuck.

>>33586407
yes

>>33589779
I hate nearly all western male streamers and everyone in tempus other than vesper, because streaming culture in the west is generally cancer. therefore I oppose male collabs, yet I am lambasted as a unicorn, it's hilarious

>>33589894
you retard, if 'love is gonna blossom' then it's going to blossom anyways and not specifically because of a recorded work video in front of thousands of people. If you're scared your oshii is gonna fall in love you should be scared ALL the time

>>33589894
Everyone knows it can only bloom on a battlefield

>>33589798
You seem upset. Don't worry, it'll be okay anon.

>>33588884
And you homofags are parasocialling a friendship with your anime fujo "bros" cause you cant hold down a friendship in your life thanks to your obnoxious attitude

>>33586407
i don't give a fuck about what pick mes think

I watch males but she's right. Not every vtuber should collab with men, if they do where the fuck would unicorns go? Some vtubers would just be weird and awkward trying to collab with a dude

>>33586407
Who?

>>33590312
>if they do where the fuck would unicorns go?
hang themselves on a tree

>>33590312
>where the fuck would unicorns go?
They can always kill themselves. It's not like anybody will miss them.

>>33589605
It's hot

>>33590312
>where the fuck would unicorns go
watch a desperate roastie like OP

>>33586407
I don't know but all Kronies are cucks and should be extinguished from society.

>>33589121
Oldfag LARP? Oldfag LARP.

Imagine giving your money to a slut and getting mad when she goes downtown to slut it up.

This is you, faggots.

>>33586857
Someone in another thread claimed to have been banned on this board for the use of "normalfag".

>>33590488
>>33590465
do you want Lamy to lose her money?

>>33589559
Yeah, just ask Rushia about it.

>>33586407
No one gives a fuck about this troon and his pathetically transparent opinions.

>>33586407
This analogy would work if suddenly since Tempus debuted every stream was a collab with the girls, retard

>>33589971
Most reasonable explanation for hating male colabs. The only problem is the girls are/were part of the same streaming culture you refer to as cancer. Almost all of them came straight from twitch. So to hold this position you'll also have to accept most of HoloEn girls as cancer as well.

>>33590488
>>33590465
The tolerant and open left, everyone, gleefully calling for the violent deaths of everyone who opposes them. So much for diversity…

>>33591065
They would be without backlash.
See nijimales

>>33586407
both her and the other bunny vtuber /here/ can fuck off

>>33586407
Yes, she's right. I don't want to tune in to Hololive streams and see random dudes half the time. It killed all interest I had in Nijisanji EN.

>>33587604
She's SEA.

>>33591202
Sorry, I just like to watch schizos cry.

>>33586407
based take for once, trannies already seething in the reply.

>>33586407
Yes she's right but shes also a filthy third worlder so inherently shes also a scam

>>33591113
many of them are cancer
and I said generally cancer, parsed words for a reason. There are acceptable males but on the weeb side of things the men are way worse in general than the women for whatever reason

>>33591206
Someone has never ever watched Tempus or StarsJP

>>33586407
>Food analogy

See this starstuck shark talking sweetly about the other girls and her experience bringing this to fans? This is what you'll lose if she collabs with males

>>33591973
What?

>>33591241
anon that can't even do schedule reps
>see random dudes half the time
schizo

>>33591719
Tempus? yeah I don't
StarsJp? You don't watch them.
Most of their streams are solo with eventual collabs. Not like NijiEN that had 3 or 4 collabs weekly, and barging into eachothers solo streams all the time.
If left unchecked tempus would be doing the same shit.

>>33592410
But that's what I'm saying. Neither StarsJP nor Tempus wants or does this. NijiEN sure, we have more than ample proof.

Tempus has literally never started a collab with the girls themselves, and the only times they have even mentioned the girls at all was because of either chat bringing them up on stream ("Penguin TV is Kaela"), or they literally dropped by on stream, like Sora or Bae.

>>33589971
So that just means you're misandrist

>>33589121
Go back to twitter troon, nobody buys your 2 cent "im and oldfag and all of you are newfags" larp

>>33589043
nudes of her model or her roomate ?

>>33592847
no, there are western males that make good content but they aren't streamers, and then the jp boys are ok from what I've seen, used to watch some roberu before en came out and the one that collabed with risu alot seemed alright

>>33591474
while begging their oshis to collab with your homos

>>33592828
I know it's the girls who want to collab. The guys just need to be aware of doing shit like randomly dropping by a karaoke to sing a duet

>>33586407
>Food analogy
into the trash it goes. Literal middling IQ bullshit.

>>33586407
kinda based, but also dotn care about her

>>33593474
The what.
I...don't think anyone has showed up in anyone else's karaoke? The one "duet" that has happened was Ame having a playback of Altare singing, so she could sing along. The same way she does with literally everyone else.

Altare had nothing to do with that (beyond maybe Ame asking him if she could? Maybe?)

>>33593623
the purpose of analogies is clarity, not originality.

>>33593645
Oh sorry. I thought it was live

>>33593623
>>food analogy

>>33593700
No, this is just being an obtuse retard and obfuscating things.

>>33593808
Yeah, still waiting for someone to prove her wrong.

>>33593855
it's neither of those things you pretentious fuckwit. it's relatable because everyone can relate to food.

>>33586407
>FOOD ANALOGY LMAO

>>33593623
>AHHH REEEE FOOD ANALOGY REEE
r/4chan mentality

>>33593957
>Relatable
To mid-wits, yes.

>>33593974
see >>33593946

>>33594105
kill yourself moeshitter

>>33594071
>food analogy is a midwit thing
huwhat?

>>33594071
>i'm too smart to relate to food
ok retard

>>33586407
what does PH Vtuber stands for ?

>>33595242
PornHub Vtuber

>>33586407
> is this desperate pick me correct?
i don't think so

>>33595554
>pick me
go back, troon.

>>33596330
>troon
back to kiwif- oh wait

>>33588362
And that's not wrong, faggot.

>>33596389
>immediately brings up kf
way to prove me right

>>33586407
Sorry the fact that she sounds like a guy filters me.

>>33590935
he probably mentioned mori in his post

>le food analogy

A better analogy would be people watching cgdgt anime, and all of a sudden it turns into a romcom with male characters being added in. I don't watch Hololive to see male interactions, Nijisan has always filled that desire for people who want it. But now Holo EN is literally becoming budget Nijisan.

>>33586617
>twitter accounts
>redditors mentioning /vt/ under every post
>retards talking about 4chan in every yt comment section
I wonder

>>33596389
>trannies think only one site hates them

>>33586617
this is now a normalnigger twitter and reddit colony and has been for a while.

>>33586617
>doesnt know the food analogy meme
>calling others normies
Nice try, 2020 Summerfag

>>33589121
>live sex celebration
based /pw/ssy

>>33589121
way to out yourself as a tourist, faggot. all that just to say you enjoy getting cucked

>>33589121
>the excessive pro unicorn attitude is a very recent thing in the 4chan chuuba community
because there are more redditors provoking reaction
>It's also fucking retarded to hold anime girl streamers to the same autistic standards as real idols
it actually makes more sense, because its virtual, and really easy

>>33586407
I don't even know what the issue is, nor do I really care, but the answer is always no.

>>33586617
no gatekeeping, which is the ironic part

>>33588497
no, its replacing them
the streamer is the menu item, not the stream

>>33589121
lying tourist troon

>>33586407
Correct and red pilled

>>33586407
Strawman.

No one is saying the talents should exclusively collab with males. You people are deranged.

>>33599905
that's not what the post is saying either, ESL. homobeggars and normalfags just think every idol should be willing to collab with males.

>>33599905
reading comprehension
Do you think its problematic if a group/streamer chooses to only make content with their own sex?

>>33589121
>rk9
Why do you fucking twitter tourists even try? You're so obvious.

>>33591113
>Most reasonable explanation for hating male colabs
I hate male collabs because I don't want the w*men to ruin my comfy tempus streams.

>>33586407
Is she ever?

>>33593623
At this point the kneejerk muh food analogy -replies are about as reddit as complaining about pineapple on pizza but I guess this doesn't count either because it's also about food hurrdurr. You don't have a single original thought in your head.

>>33586407
She really wants your money.

>>33603885
She is rich

>>33596961
to me its the IP any given corporation is known for. could be coke, mcdonalds, comcast, apple, lexus, anything. if your known for a specific product and are really popular for said product, dont go around fucking with it.
Coke is a good example (le beverage anology) But they did just that in the 80s. tried to change their one product, the coke recipe, to a new one. people were livid for a few months until they capitulated and went back to the "old" recipe.
People got parasocial unicorn level mad, at a beverage company. Hololive IS a seller of the parasocial, so we see how thats going. theres a video on the coke debacle and every manager in hololive should watch it.

Not really a yab but I miss using this

>>33591202
Nigger, since when coddling dysgenic freaks is a right wing position?

>>33604940

>>33597803
I keep saying it, a basic literary test would filter out most of the problem.

>>33604592
stfu Amerilard

>>33589121
yeah when someone you like hangs out with a male in the same age group and field and they hit it off really well out it's just casual friend stuff no big deal my dude, why would anyone feel anxious at all right

>>33605264
Imagine caring about pussy you never had a chance with. Like this shit would make more sense if you even existed in the same physical space and had one on one interaction but fuck man its pretty sad to get sweaty over a vtuber interacting with another vtuber

>>33605598
>this dumb argument again
why are you people here, you never learn and keep saying the same stupid shit
real quickly though ONCE AGAIN, it's about the talent recognizing and considering their fans' feelings which shows their acknowledgement and appreciation of them

>>33605807
They stream for you fucks why should they give a shit about your feeling? Their job is to entertain you not to make you feel like mommy special baby boy damn you faggots need professional help

Male collabs are like wokeness in MCU movies.
At a certain point you can't just not watch the woke shows or movies because every single one of them is woke. And not only is all the new content woke but it actively goes back to retroactively ruin the non-woke characters.

People who support male collabs are she-hulk fans.

>>33605264
Nigger, you never meet and never will. She doesn't know you. And she is having what is essentially a public phone call with someone she doesn't know, both sides of said conversation are being monitored and recorded. Entire thing is set up by professionals explicitly so nothing unsavory can happen. You are nuttier than squirel shit.

>>33586407
Someone pick her already

>>33606011
>their job is to entertain you
If that was the case, they'd watch male streamers. Females offer a different dynamic, and instinctually they know that, otherwise they wouldn't hide their relationship status etc

>>33606115
Have you considered not watching superhero movies no matter how "woke" they are? Grown men basedfacing over Captain Punch wouldn't be less pathetic if there were no brown people in it.

>>33606182
Its to late for that if people unironically started watching her shit to make her stop she would just take it as conformation bias and would lean into the act harder

>>33586407
retarded food analogy, it doesnt even make sense
kiki's tweet was better

>>33606301
>just stop watching the most important cultural icons of the 21st century

>>33606121
>repeating the same point
You morons are incapable of understanding concepts. To you if you're not LITERALLY in a relationship then there's nothing of value there. If that was the case then why would this dynamic be overwhelmingly prevalent in HoloJP? You're awfully confident about holding a position when an existing successful model suggests otherwise.

>>33606182
2bh I wouldn't mind

DJ MAGGIN ON THE BEAT!

>>33606373
I was waiting for her to tweet about this, so where is it?

>>33589043
post the nudes coward

>>33606585
she did it like a month ago

>>33606266
Its called kayfabe you fucking autistic shit do you want the cute anime character persona? or the VA behind the chuuba? People like you that can't distinguish the difference and refuse on a cellular level to believe that VAs and the chuubas they play are different fundamentally you faggots are the reason why some political pendants still push the video games are dangerous stick because you faggots can not tell reality from fiction

>>33606432
>nothing of value there
What value are you getting that is getting destroyed by her playing vidya with some guy while not even sharing a room? Real Idols never had such absurd standards put in them.

>>33606726
It's not a matter of "keyfabe," it's a matter of the relationship between the talent and their fanbase, if they wish to have it. There are ways for them to deepen their connection and show appreciation for them, which is what the JPs generally choose to do. But to you, you want to actually believe that people are there ONLY because of your "performance" that you think has so much value, not the other inherent qualities you possess that has appeal.

>>33606383
muricans thinking everybody cares about their spandex posers as usual

>>33607004
>real idols don't understand their fans' feelings
Now that's a fucking stupid thought if I ever heard one.

>>33606383
>ew, my hollywood goyslop has brown people in it
>ew, my pretend girlfrend talked to some guy
Based and redpilled

>>33586407
>virtual intimacy
Holy cringe

>>33607220
What feelings? Nigger, you are watching an anime girl being silly on a screen alongside thousands of other people. Idols have shake hand events, meet and greet, public apperances and so on. Are you telling me that if Idol is seen shaking hand with one fan then all the other ones are to go apeshit about it?

>>33606011
>They stream for you fucks why should they give a shit about your feeling? Their job is to entertain you
Those are the same thing retard
Entertainers take fan feeling into account
>need professional help
cool, still not going to therapy, still have money that will generate market demand
cope

>>33607530
It's not, because that sort of event doesn't show favoritism to a particular individual. All of their actions give consideration to the fanbase as a whole. Giving preference to a single individual messes with the dynamic and shows that they are favoring an individual over the fanbase, which in turn shows that they aren't thinking about how the fans feel. The JPs understand this, which is why they don't do it, and if so only in a professional manner.

>>33607841
>The JPs understand this, which is why they don't do it
JP did male collabs tho?

>>33589121
>anime girl streamers
This is how I know you STILL don't understand vtubing.

>>33608151
What, are you gonna pull the dumb 2 years ago shit that only suggests that they've decided to go for the idol route since then? Or are you going to be disingenuous and point out promo collabs and other collabs that were otherwise handled in a professional setting? Or are you going to pick the fringe ones like the Apextubers? Go for it my dude.

>>33607785
>still have money that will generate market demand
Yeah, you are a sad fuck that is jealous of a chick he never talked with talking to a dude in public. You don't need therapy, you need Aktion T4.

>>33608151
some do, few often
but they all managed to do so without the reddit crusade thanks to better handling and professionalism
redditors want every beggar to get a collab though
they want an unholy combo of nijis+twitch vshojo culture for every company

>>33608377
>handled in a professional setting?
How is a stream not such a setting? Streaming is their job.

>>33586407
They are, just go elsewhere and stop bitching.

>>33608435
and neither will happen
you'll continue to seethe
>talking to a dude in public
kronii is a persona anon
its a performance

>>33587890
Zea's stream on parasocial relationships was better

>>33608520
Because it would make their gachis feel uncomfortable, as expressed already in this comment thread that seems to have already gone from your memory? Which is why you retards never learn?
>>33607841
>>33607220
>>33605264

>It's like food
No it isn't

>>33588990
>None of you ever did this. You failed step 1 of your analogy because you never told the idol not to interact with men, and none of them ever agreed to it.
Kronii's shit literally started because she talked with her fans.
She doesn't have to agree, but she was told.

>>33586407
>orthodox idol
lol
lmao
What's next, Rome Catholic idols from the Papacy?

>>33608727
its like literally any product
The streamer's brand is the product being sold
There's a market for streamers that create 100% female or male spaces for themselves

>>33608614
Yeah, and you are mad about two personas talking to each other in a professional setting. Are you gonna get a seizure if someone draws your waifu taking dick?

>>33586538
People make food analogies because food is a universal in everyone's lives, unless you're an uber poorfag, but in that case you probably don't have internet access anyways. They're easy to understand and everyone can relate to them.
>DURRRRRRRRRR FOOD ANALOGY!!!!!!!!! LOL YOUR ARGUMENT IS INVALID NOW!!!!!!!!!!
You aren't smart.

>>33608797
>What's next, Rome Catholic idols from the Papacy?
Literaly Virgin Mary. Terrible idol tho. Collabed with males all the time.

>>33608711
Idols do interviews and play roles on tv.

>>33588884
Would you prefer some people having parasocial relationships or would you rather persecute the NEETs and unicorns and get more shootings and truck attacks because persecuting mentally ill men is how you get more shootings and truck attacks. You will never get rid of the issue by persecuting them either since more will be created by the conditions that created those you "purged".

>>33608880
> if someone
>a 3rd party
holy shit retard
>you are mad about two personas talking to each other
yes. and?

>>33609051
Congrats, we've created an index where I can just point out shit that I need to repeat for you now
>>33608377
>Or are you going to be disingenuous and point out promo collabs and other collabs that were otherwise handled in a professional setting?

>>33609073
We can just do what US did before Reagan (loony bin) and what ruskies did (gulag).

>>33609166
How is a collab not a professional setting?

>>33609311
You're asking a bunch of ultimately irrelevant questions. Let me just index back to the most important point again for you, and you can try to work out the rest as to why some things are ok while others are NG.
>>33605807
>it's about the talent recognizing and considering their fans' feelings which shows their acknowledgement and appreciation of them
Sample Question 1: Why would talking to team of animators (male and female) for a personal PV be fine, while playing a co-op game and hitting it off with a male their age in the same field on-stream be less fine?
Hint: It's about the talent considering their fans' feelings

>>33586407
No. This has nothing to do with idol culture or anything remotely close to it. There are taboos like dating or having relationships. Now we're talking about a vtuber doing a collab for a few hours. Only a retard would use idol culture as an excuse for being an absolute incel for a regular ass adult woman that is really just an anime puppeteer.

Show me a vtuber that even makes a remote attempt at being an actual idol. You can count them on one hand and not even Terumi is one of them. Intimacy idol is just some made up shit. If your subculture isn't based on serious commitments then it doesn't deserve to be taken seriously.

>>33609594
>Hint: It's about the talent considering their fans' feelings
And the feeling in question being?

>>33609643
>no true scotsman
go gaslight on twitter, tranny

>>33610170
You gonna kill yourself sooner than an average troon.

>>33610259
>still at it
sorry, not one of your underage discord victims

>>33589121
>rk9
Kys faggot pretender

>>33609643
You morons just keep appearing huh. Saying the same ignorant shit, with the same self-assured tone. Women (at least your kind) don't seem to understand the male brain. They don't get how simply being themselves can have appeal. They think it's the ANIME AVATAR that makes all the fucking difference, the "performance" that they're so convinced that they're making is all the difference. There's no way there's any of the individual leaking through, no it's just your masterful performance completely removed from you as an individual. Of course you have to think that, otherwise how could you distance yourself from your fanbase? You want to take their money, but you don't want to have any responsibility to them. You want to believe it's what you did on stream that made them watch you and donate, and not because you're female. Well you're deluding yourself. If people want to be entertained with such a performance, they'll watch male streamers, the evidence is there that they're funnier.
Now is this all a hard and fast rule? Not completely, I mean there are some very funny HoloJPs. But they capitalize on both traits, that's why they're so powerful.

>>33610039
Their feelings. Like you know, when someone does something that makes you feel bad, you feel bad. Those feelings?

I don't mind Inui, Ichinose or Yui collabing with males but there are some in holojp i don't like to see collabing with males especially not with Holostars.

>>33610170
>>33610476
They're not idols and this isn't idol culture. They're not even underground idols and you'll never go to a handshake event for two reason. The first is that the woman controlling the character isn't remotely an idol and so you're just breaking immersion. The second reason is that the fans aren't even remotely idol fans. They're more like the random loser that enters a girl's stream and talks like a retard.
>ey bby r u single u so hot

This is not idol culture. It never was. Beyond some flaky character lore for a few characters they just spent their time playing Minecraft and shit. I say nobody can seriously get this confused and think it's idol culture but then again many people are retarded every day.

>>33610476
Nobody disagreed that you're an incel, they disagreed that you're an idolfag.

>>33610888
>esl understands idol culture even less than he understands english
many such cases

>>33611154
>>33610888
I don't care about your stupid ass semantic arguments, if you want to talk about traditional idols, go to an idol forum. We're talking about the ones that are currently performing and acting in a certain manner in Hololive, you can call them whatever the fuck you want, but you know what they do (stream, do promos, host shit, sell merch, do concerts, basically never casually talk to males on stream in a non-promotional setting, etc)

>>33588279
fucking dammit, I might have to stan Terumi and actually her her she at this rate

>>33586407
Yes.

>>33591719
I watch starsJP and Tempus is completely taking a shit on the etiquette they built up for collabs with Hololive members. StarsJP are very careful and do female collabs with those from OUTSIDE the company the most. Tempus would be totally ok with shoving their fucking faces in front of every EN girl on a daily basis if they were told it's ok. They don't fucking care, they're not even close to the level of JP Stars. They're just omega's nijiEN-lite project.

>>33587071
would you like me to refer to you as she, they or xe?

>>33589798
>nip shitters like you do not and have never belonged on this site
retard

>>33589798
ogey so which twitch streams are you watching tho?

>>33586617
Its always been that way. This board was made so trash can be moved away from the /jp/ board.

Reminder that Terumi is a complete failure at life
>parents put her into an elite school
>then into an elite university
>friends with very rich people
>didn't make any connections
>did erp and posted nudes on /trash/
>ended up a 2view "gfe" vtuber

>>33613302
cool, but she's still right

>>33589901
coco is retarded and doesn't realize she's not an idol.
>>33590147
its not really about friendship or lack of parasocial relationship as it is understanding the difference between the 2d character and the actor who plays them on tv. Being unable to distinguish the 2 is essentially the same as being unable to tell fantasy from reality.

>>33609073
The persecution belongs entirely on the elites, however, the faggots you claim are the victims are in fact nothing more than zombies. They thoughtlessly attack random dumb idols instead of realizing idolshit is shit. They do not turn their hatred towards real targets that deserve their ire, just whores.
>shootings and truck attacks
muslims and glowniggers are not unicorns

>>33612582
>>33612367
>seething nip has no arguement.
I don't watch any of this crap. I read manga, watch anime and post on smugloli

>>33613302
they deserve what they get for expecting a school to raise their own child.

>>33614400
of course you don't, otherwise you wouldn't say such dumb shit that's so irrelevant and out of touch
i don't go into a bike shop and scream at them at how skateboards are better and more western, they'll just wonder why the fuck i'm even there in the first place

>>33587604
>Amerilards
/vt/ posters are really this fucking stupid, huh? Probably some knee jerk reacting eurocuck.

>>33614347
They only attack idols when their means of attaining emotional balance is disrupted, sure we would be better off if they directed their energy elsewhere but that usually requires a greater investment and a greater sense of direction than what these men have. Many would not be willing to go down potentially life ruining paths targeting those that deserve it as they still hold hope that life will get better for them and that they will find what they want (love, success, purpose, etc.).

>>33614775
>dumb retarded twatter nip thinks this is his home
this is an american anime board retard, we have american sensabilities here, and that sensatibility is idolshit bad and 3dpd.

>>33615493
i've been here longer than you cockmongling faggot
and no that's not a good thing either

>>33615379
theyre literally ruining their lives with cope. We all have our coping mechanism and you are based for realizing men actually need what vtubers give but what you are failing to understand is the idolshitters are not people with hope, they are addicts only thinking about their next high. they have completely lost the script on life.

>>33615579
doubt.jpg.

>>33586407
Majority of food sales for Burger King and McDonald in Indonesia is fried chicken.

>>33586857
It's hilarious to see tourists are so scared using -fag suffix because they're so used to kowtow to Twitter and Reddit rules

>>33615611
i don't need to prove it to a random anon on the internet, especially one that doesn't have an appreciation for JP culture that's been part of the site since its early days, including what it itself and its name is based off of
you can fuck off to the other non-weeb or ironic weeb places on the internet

>>33616028
>>jp culture
you faggots where responsible for making touhou posting the worst time possible on /a/ and /tg/ so why the fuck should I care. Do you know how many fucking bans I ate because you niggers couldn't fucking cool it? the only based thing you faggots have done in a decade is put osana reimu in your banner, now go back to your shitty containment. I'll visit that fate/shithole for reps and nuhu only. the rest of you seiyuu mongoloids need to go back to 2ch

>>33586407
>food analogy
it doesn't even make sense, male collabs aren't replacing regular streams. She doesn't understand why people don't want male collabs

>>33616144
i'm not a jpfag i never got into touhoufaggotry stop including me with them and their retarded /jp/ board aka touhou general

>>33606585

>>33616273
>says jp culture
>nooo no the jp culture containment board
jogger tier iq in this nip

>>33616352
>implying /jp/ is anything other than a touhou board
only a dumbfuck tourist would think touhoushit should take up such a big part of jp culture, just looking at it annoys me

>>33616304
>these are the "people" calling you incel

>>33616459
retard theres hardly any touhou on /jp/ its all seiyuu, vn, and idol trash. If the entire board was 2hu it would actually be based because ZUN is the only faggot brave enough to stick his entire forarm into the anus of copywrite niggers and give every content creator a royalty free IP they can publish.

>>33616568
Well I counted over 50 touhou threads so you're a lying faggot now aren't you

>>33586407
If she would have only made the first tweet she would be right

>>33587145
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH WAGIEEEEEEEEE????????

>>33587145
lmao wagie is mad

>>33586407
what the fuck is she talking about?

>>33616839
>almost all of them are on page 10 with under 50 replies
(you)

>>33617173
I see 8 on the first page. This is the last time I'm calling out your bullshit self-proclaimed oldfag-chama

>>33586407
The analogy doesn't really work, it's also just backwards. It's a burger shop that started selling chicken and yes, that's fine, the problem is that they're actually talking about the *burger* puritans who are screaming bloody murder because now chicken is on the menu.

It doesn't work though because the issue would have to be that somehow there is fear that the chicken will end up influencing the burgers or something? Or the chicken will end up replacing burgers? Or a chicken/burger hybrid will result and replace both? I don't fucking know but it certainly doesn't work.

>>33617401
>f5 spammer
lmao, I clicked it once and theres literally 2 on page one.
almost the entire top is taken from shitty generals about seiyuus and other nip garbage, go back to 2ch already.

>>33617515
>The analogy doesn't really work
The analogy works. You just lack the comprehension to understand it.

>>33617515
burger puritans are right though, it's a burger shop. They should make burgers instead of wasting their time and budget on non-burger stuff. Selling chicken would make their burgers worse because they're not the sole focus anymore.

>>33617670
i'll go when i want to faggot

She's collabed with multiple men in the past before, what the fuck is she even trying to say

>>33618586
nice reading comprehension retard

>>33588990
>Excuse me (idol), I'd like you to not interact with males ever.
>None of you ever did this
This is bullshit, tons of fans voiced their displeasure about Stars as soon as it was announced, and every single talent has received at least a few superchats asking them not to collab. That said, in most cases, fans opinion on the matter isn't up for consideration. Calli, Bae and Ame were all upfront about how they were going to interact with the boys and any fans who decided to still be upset about it had the option of fucking right off.
The issue for Kronii is that she wasn't upfront about her intentions and then just appeared in a collab.
Unicorns should remember that Sora appears in the males chats frequently, and FBK and Matsuri both have collabed with men for years now and it's not been a problem. If it really bugs you, then stick to Kiara, Gura or Fauna who have all been clear that they won't collab with males unless forced, basically.

>>33618625
English must not be her first language if she can't just say what she's trying to say without implying it.

>>33618698
sure but her collabing with males in the past is completely unrelated. You're confused and bringing that up because you're trying to strawman her argument.

>>33618794
Explain her argument.

>>33618887
nigger just fucking read it, are you retarded?
she says you shouldn't demonize people for not wanting "idol" chuubas who don't collab with males

>>33618955
Faggot did you even read it? She's saying if a burger place started selling chicken she'd go somewhere else. Even if that's what she meant, you stated something that actually made sense in a few words, not two tweets with retarded metaphors.

>>33619073
did you just skip the first tweet?

>>33619102
Did you skip the 2nd that is trying to provide more context for the first?

>>33619196
what the fuck are you trying to say anon?

>>33619268
She is tacitly saying that male collabs aren't becoming of an idol, calls herself an idol, and collabs with males. She can do whatever she wants, but all she's doing is pissing on a fire and trying to get credit for putting it out.

>>33619457
>She is tacitly saying that male collabs aren't becoming of an idol
no she's not saying that
you're just strawmanning her argument because you're a retarded faggot

>>33619514
She states that's the orthodox definition of idol behavior

>>33619586
and?

>>33619637
She states that fans of orthodox idols don't like male collabs

>>33619672
okay, what's your point?

>>33617840
>Selling chicken would make their burgers worse because they're not the sole focus anymore.
Do you know of literally any case in history where a burger joint adding chicken to the menu has made the burgers worse?

>>33619690
>>She is tacitly saying that male collabs aren't >becoming of an idol
>no she's not saying that
That is exactly my point you mongoloid

>>33619724
sure but she's not saying that

>>33619810
Are you actually retarded? These things necessarily follow:
1. Subject is about idol collabing with males
2. She is fine if an idol chooses to collab with a male
3. She, equally, is fine with orthodox idol fans not liking that behavior and dropping them, and defends specifically these people, which is the entire intent of the tweet.
Implicit in this message is that there is a difference between these two types of "idols". The fact that she is calling one of them "orthodox", which means truer, or closer to an ideal, clearly demonstrates this.

>>33620048
>there is a difference between these two types of "idols"
yes
>orthodox", which means truer, or closer to an ideal
no, it just means normal/traditional
She never said "you're not an idol if you collab with males" which was the point of your post

Why can't a women enjoy her meat burgers in peace nowadays?

>>33620185
I said "less than" you retard. Terumi constantly talks this holier than thou shit, and I don't know why I would bother convincing you that the way she interacts with the world around her is toxic. I was just as deluded with her as you are at one point. Good luck faggot