/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>3339798
You forgot Akio Air auditions
https://akioair.com/Audition

I wanted to try streaming paradox grand strategy games as a vtuber but it seems potentially way too political for my tastes. like i can just imagine getting cancelled over expelling the Jews in ck2 or getting doxxed by a /pol/tard for not being fascist or whatever. no wonder there aren't many other chuubas doing this. too bad it's such a minefield because i'm genuinely a huge history nerd but i can't imagine talking about anything past the medieval period without someone getting mad

>>3342216
Ur overthinking it and also gb2pol

>>3342216
Being a chuuba, you cannot be seriously threatened if you make sure you keep good OPSEC. If you have good amounts of history knowledge you can make a fantastic stream.

When you see people cancelled it's usually really big dudes who have already gathered tons of haters. Nobody cares enough to ruin a small chuuba's fun as long as you don't make blatantly antisemitic or racist comments.

If the rrats are true then the one that made /asp/ is debuting tomorrow.
https://youtu.be/IoKxaj-eWVM

>>3342591
I hope her debut goes well!
I know I want to follow in her footsteps with Akio Air and get a really nice-looking model from a very popular artist with a super cute art style, so knowing someone who started on here is making it is awesome

>>3342591
show yourself terumi

>>3342961
She was already told by her management to not selfpost here ever since she posted her dummy account in wvt unfortunately

>>3343238
What’s the lore behind this? I haven’t been on /vt/ long

good luck terumi!

How do you make yourself "entertaining?"
I want to be able to share games I love with other people but i don't know how to draw them in and get them to stay aside from just making interesting conversation when possible. How do you bros do it

>>3343306
So around the end of January, someone made a thread for people aspiring to audition for bigger companies giving advice. At some point, someone going by the name Idol Hopeful started replying to people giving advice about getting started and also posted her sockpuppet stream account to do her reps and answer questions live; she was also the one that created the name /auds/.
I believe it was at some point in the middle of February that she posted a link to her stream to wvt and some trolls came into her chat immediately calling her a tranny and she also said some really weird stuff ("I raised you all!" in regards to /auds/) and I believe she also name dropped amber glow in her last stream

>>3343428
Every entertainer has a niche, a type of content they’re good at
Your job is to find out what that is
For me, I’m good at stream of consciousness commentary, random tangents, and also speaking about stuff that I generally enjoy (like songs, YouTube videos, channels, etc.), while occasionally (or more than occasionally) cracking a joke. I’m also pretty good at chat-based interaction (though this is only really with observation from others)
I’m also good at other things that I don’t do often, like presentations
What sort of streamers do you personally like to watch?

>>3342663
I wish you the best anon! What stage of the audition are you on?

>>3344197
Only the second stage still, but I don’t believe anyone is on the third stage (interviews) yet; supposedly Akio Air reviews all first stage auditions multiple times and still chose to accept me to pass the first stage so that makes me feel excited, and they apparently take far longer to do the second stage (which makes sense since they’re looking for people who would fit) so I’d expect to wait a week or so to see if I’m going to pass on to the third stage
I feel like my answers were good however, so chances are I will get into the third stage IMO

Tell me about your design, chuuba. Did you make it yourself? Did someone help you? Did you ask an artist for advice? Did you aim for sexy, cute, cool...? How do you feel about it? Do you think fanartists will dig it?

>>3346262
Designed by myself with minimal feedback and will be rigged by myself too, aiming for cute, I think I got it down at least in my own standards and what I wanted it to represent. It's incorporating ideas that I haven't seen in any other chuuba but it's still got plenty of weeb/cutesy tropes, so I really hope people will dig it once the stream context starts applying, and I'll be making my own art of it too either way.

>>3339798
I test it a bit of Iolive with my live2d model and runs pretty good! There's things to change like automatically hide extra parts and stuff but its coming out good! I hope that project still up in the future

I think I decided that I'm going to work on two different youtube accounts at once. One for Vtubing and another one for another type of content making that's along the lines of weekly video production that has nothing to do with Vtubers. I feel like doing something like this would have me greatly improve my understanding of the youtube algorithm as well as my video editing skills, thumbnail making and video title generation. I'm currently working on my non-vtuber channel first and once I get some videos up I plan on commissioning a model for myself.

>>3346262
>Did you make it yourself?
Yup, based it slightly off myself as well
>Did you aim for sexy, cute, cool...?
I went for simple but also some elegance in the design
>How do you feel about it?
I'll be honest, I think I may have went too simple with it, especially since the (temporary) VRoid model I'm using is missing some of the clothing. Like, I like the design, but I don't think it'll stand out too much, but I'm not sure how I could add to it while also adhering to the original theme.

>>3343428
Do what actors and voice actors do, read a book outloud and try to make the passages engaging. This website has some interesting exercises you can follow https://iwanttobeavoiceactor.com/

Another thing you can do is plan out content pre-stream, practice delivering it and than during your stream you deliver lines/jokes with a stronger punch. One of the most interesting thing I've watched on youtube/twitch is this thing called marketing monday by the head of Nvidia's global PR manager where he basically makes a PowerPoint presentation about marketing and business offstream and delivers it live to his audience. https://youtube.com/watch?v=g1cCRxpHxuw

>>3346262
Did you make it yourself?
Yes! I did the design myself. And drew it and everything.
Did someone help you?
I got feedback from friends. But 90% of it is just things I like.
Did you ask an artist for advice?
Not so much for advice. But little quirk changes. Like removing clutter.
Did you aim for sexy, cute, cool...?
I aimed for cute and deceptively simple.
How do you feel about it?
I really like it. I think it's unique enough without being sparkle. I stayed away from tropes I don't like personally, and embraced tropes I want to see more of.
Do you think fanartists will dig it?
I think so.Or rather I hope so. It's got a nice tasty color palette and ticks all the boxes of dopamine for me. I'm very happy.

>>3346262
I made it myself! I designed it simple enough to do some basic model work of it and with changes in mind as time progresses. I like it a lot, I just hope the audience would like it.

>>3346262
I drew and rigged it myself, it took a few failed designs but it's alright. The rigging could be better but I'm pretty happy with what I got, since I have never used Live 2D before. It suits my personality imo, not sure about the voice but I'm still working on it. I'd draw fanart of my model so everyone else has to too!

How do I ensure my content is clippable?

>>3342216
Literally no one fucking cares dudes. Stop being afraid of some imaginary vtuber boogeyman and stream whatever you want.

>>3343696
>amber glow

damn, that one came off was just some quick cash grab scam org.

Okay, so I'm a cockroachtuber, and I was thinking of what my channel mascot should be.

It's basically either a normal ass roach or something else. Some people like the idea, some don't. So I'm kinda mixed. Any ideas?

>>3353823
hymen

>>3353823
Floating pizza

>>3353823
Nuclear warhead.

>>3353823
girl roach.. or are you a girl roach? butterfly? idk

>>3353823
baby roach larvae chibi, so a lil wormy boi

>>3354529
Boy roach!

Also got some ideas now
Normal Roach
Trash Bag
Nuclear Warhead
Floating Pizza

I'll probably make a poll and post it on Twitter. Thanks you guys!

>>3346262
I designed it, my friend drew it, and then I rigged her up myself
I tried to aim for something cute but not cutsey. We are currently working on my magical girl costume for me to do a reveal in later and (hopefully) I will be able to rig up and make a transformation animation for it so that I can have 'stream transformation' be a bit redeem or something

>>3354807
https://strawpoll.com/3hqwapb5k decided to get it out of the way. Here you go.

>>3346262
Wrote a character for a smut game because I needed to take a break from my novel. Feel in love with the character concept. Made some sketches of her. Gave it to a real artist for Live2D slicing and creation.

Currently PNGtubing until I'm ready for a full debut.

>>3346262
1. No, I suggested the clothes, but I let my friend design it. It worked well.
2. Friend, yeah
3. Friend is an artist.
4. Cute, which is supposed to contrast the personality
5. Perfect! I feel like them looking a little young might add some controversy on me making sex jokes, but I honestly don't care enough to have it be a problem.
6. Hopefully! Getting some fanart would be pretty fun, especially since the personality might give some room for some "crude" poses and scenarios.

What did everyone stream today?

I did a few games of the new season of Apex. Wanted to try and play the new legend, but didn't get a chance to.

>>3346262
So many replies! I really want to see them!

having a passing thought of making a creature similar to elizabeth from gintama

>>3346262
Still on the waitlist for my artist. Have a slapped together design outline, but will encourage them to modify it in the initial phase. It's more a relaxing/friendly feel, and I really like the concept. Feel really comfortable with it. The art then rigging wait is going to be painful, but I am patient. Gives me time to work on the other stuff I guess.

Should really start this weekend planning on how I'm turning our spare bedroom into an 'office' for streaming.

>>3346262
No
Yes
Advice?
Cool
I really like it
I'd like to try to get fans first.

>>3342591
Why the fuck would you ever openly admit you're filipino?

I'M GONNA MAKE IT

any other chuubas here who have youtube videos (either live stream or archives), are youall getting this shit like pic related too? i get like 3-4 of these each time i upload a new video, it has a time stamp and some random set of letters that end up hyperlinking to some sketch site that i don't want to click.

>>3363671
every video gets it. youtube usually deletes them automatically but double check because it misses them sometimes

>>3360873
why wouldn't you?

>>3359387
No stream today, working on commissions though.

>>3346262
1. i made it, she started out as this.
https://b.catgirlsare.sexy/eElyrB_u.png
then a friend.. made her cute! and drew her a ref!
2. a lot of my friends are artists, and the only feedback was... to add more booba

3. i aimed for cute, something princess-esque but also sorta edgy.

4. i love it a lot! she feels like a perfect persona. the only thing i'm worried about is fitting myself in her shoes.

5. im a literal nobody who has done no networking and just made my social medias like a week ago. friends, friends of friends, and a few others hav already drawn some art of her! i think people will love her when i show her off publicly!

>>3339798
I'm sorry tangerine.. I couldn't make your stream today

my mic arm arrived but i need an adapter for the screws. should have done more research. it's gonna arrive tomorrow though.

I already stream as a vtuber, but wonder what the true appeal to a vtuber really is...

Hey /asp/ I did my first test stream today. And I need some advice.
My chat doesn't want to capture all the time. And I feel bad when I miss something. I've made the stream element widget but it doesn't work all the time. I had Twitch open in mod mode and it would randomly not catch. And I even had chat open on OBS.

Do I just have too many chats open in fear of missing something? Or is there a better way?

>>3346262
No
Just an MMO character
No
Cute
I think she's cute
Really don't care. Doing it for me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYrAB1hyVns
I love this /asp/ie so much

I finally posted on my twitter account! Didn't use any vtuber tags though, waiting until the rig is ready for use so I'm just following a bunch of artists for now.

>>3387948
I will watch your stream.

>>3388248
thank you, i dont even know what i want to do first, too many choices

>>3386169
i usually watch chat on streamlabs or stream manager. it should catch 100% of the time unless you're disconnected

my audition... got no response

>>3389124
Your Audition for what? Hololive? Akio Air? CyberLive?

>>3384511
The (girl)friend experience. Any other answer is lying. Not every viewer is looking for an unhealthy parasocial relationship, but everyone is looking to unwind to the feeling of intimacy even if the extent is just hearing another person talk while you quietly listen.

>>3389177
What if they wanted the bro experience?

>>3389808
they'd just pick one of the top 50 traditional face cam streamers

>>3389808
If you want people to look for you as a bro experience, try and get a model with an art style based off of or similar to Dragon Ball Z; most people who watch streams are of the age where DBZ is the anime they watch if they wanna see cool men

ive been asked which artists i like for a vtuber model and desu i've never looked into it. do you guys have any favorite pixiv artists?

>>3390415
Rurudo
I wanna be Towa’s sister

>>3390415
Actually, by who were you asked?
Was it by an agency you’re applying for? If so which one?

>>3389177
I deliver the bratty little sister experience and it works well for me.

What's the secret to being chill without being boring?

>>3390844
smiling and telling chill stories, or discussing fun facts

>>3390500
yes, it was by an agency. i've gone through a few rounds of the application now

>>3390844
appeal besides being chill. maybe you have funny puns, a soothing voice, you sing randomly, have good advice, interact with chat a lot, have good commentary or you just generally have really good vibes. there's ways to keep people entertained while having chill and cozy streams.

>>3390942
Ah, I see; then you might want to think of what Vtubers have art styles you like and ask if you can get the artist for one of those.
Out of curiosity, is the agency Akio Air or is it a different one?

>>3386449
Same, I can't often watch them live but her streams are super comfy.

how do you guys feel about baiting simps? I've had some good friends watch my streams and they all agree that I bait too much, though I just reply to every chat interaction I get because I don't get a lot.

>>3392985
who cares
your friends are probably just not used to seeing you act the way you do on stream to strangers

>>3392985
>small streamer replies to every chat interaction
>accused of baiting simps
Plain explain a bit more to make it clearer if your friends are retarded or you’re actually simp baiting. Why are you being accused?

>>3339798
I miss /asp/

>>3392985
Good chance your friends aren't used to small streams where every message is cearly readable.

Hi is this /asp/ I'm here to talk pro wrestling
what do you guys think about hulk hogan

>>3396411
funny guy I think pro wrestling as a concept is something that can be tapped by more vtubers I know there's Valerie and Jibo but I want someone who really leans into it

>>3396411
Would suck his cock.

Hello chuubas I'd like to give you some advice please do not be cute because I have developed a crush on one of you and it is very unfortunate.

if she makes it, I'll have more confidence in /asp/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoKxaj-eWVM

>>3396971
huh, Nina commented in chat too

>>3396971

She said it

>>3396971
>she likes Rabi Ribi
Best game, I plan on learning to speedrun that while I stream.

you could hear how nervous she was but I think she did a pretty good job. plus that cute origin story. I think she's gonna make it, bros.

>>3339798
Why. Why did Gura have to snipe my outfit right out from under my blind dumb hands? Everyone is going to think I'm just copying her.

>>3396971
wholesome. can't believe she's actually debuted. it seems like it was only just a while back.

>>3400373
Your outfit is a shark themed elementary schooler catgirl?

>>3400682
No, it just has a suspender dress on a loli.

>>3400373
properly rig it anon.

>>3396860
develop a bigger crush anon

she's so cute, bros

>>3401893
Yeah, incredibly based taste too

>>3402014
>Dorf Fort
>MoHun
>Rabi Ribi
Goddamn that's some good shit. She seems great, I hope she does well. I gotta start watching more youtube vtubers other than hololive, I mostly just watch twitch.

>>3398496
>>3398512
Ayo
double veetee here
Is this your banana?
You gals are alright
Buy my EP
PEACE

designed a second outfit for my chuuba. so excited!

>>3398496
>27
Ngmi

>>3346262
I am trying to make it all myself, art, rigging, logo etc! I am consulting people here and there on little things though, like feedback on drawing certain materials. I am aiming for 1000% cute and feedback suggests that it is working. I could not be happier with how it is going so far, it is a concept I haven't seen anyone else do yet and I am very satisfied with how the face has come out. As far as fanart is concerned I don't really know; I have put in a lot of cute little details that I think artists might find fun, but it might be overloaded to the point where drawing it all feels like a chore. frankly I think my character is wasted on someone like me, but I am so attached I couldn't bear to give them to anyone else.

>>3406647
I'll be looking forward to your debut Anon!

>>3406647
Keep going anon! Sounds like you're doing everything you should be.

>>3400949
Give the suspenders a really cute pattern design like flowers or stuffed animals. Than make colors completely different from her Blue and White. If someone ever accuses you of copying her tell them that talking to a little girl over the internet is a federal offense and you're gonna call the cops on them.

>>3400949
Honestly I doubt it would be an issue unless you have a similar colour scheme as well. Even just straight up denim suspenders dress shouldn't be that close in look.

>>3402288
Do people debut on Twitch ever?

>>3408294
Yeah they do all the time. It's pretty much the same process on either platform

>>3408294
Probably, though debuts only really matter if there's a pre-existing company/group that they are tied to which is less often on twitch. Debuts are kinda pointless anyway IMO. Once I have my model I'm just going to start streaming.

>>3339798
I think im going to start, retired in March 2020 and ive been bored out of my fucking mind ever since. (26) I kinda wanna do this for fun but also the social element.

>>3408431
imo best way to do it is to stream normally, then do a full debut later. this way you can shill to a larger twitter community before debuting and there are people to watch that are already invested and curious about your lore

>>3407864
I cant. its already being inked. I hit go before I got this news on my last change with the artist.
It doesnt look close enough to be infringment anon. It's just what people are going to assume because gura did it first. Also I already settled on blue and white for completely different reasons. Due to my characters theme, blue white and gold are kind of mandatory. my tuber personality even has white hair. It's fucked anons. theres nothing I could have done to avoid this without a complete rebuild. Everything that made my character dissimilar to gura except the teeth and one other secret thing has been undone.

>>3407967
To be fair to me, that's excactly the kind of suspenders I wanted. Very very very bright denim. And I didn't use gura at all in any of my design processes other than figure since she's reliably loli

I want someone to give me a honest opinion on my vods but I'm afraid to self post. sigh.

>>3410953
join the discord and we'll watch you

>>3411016
which discord? the only one I saw posted was a male chuuba one but I might be wrong

>when your main source of comedy is timings and expressions but don't have a rigged live2d model, much less one that can accurate convey the expressions

>>3411232
3D with an iPhone and ARkit rigging is your only hope.

>>3411160
https://discord.gg/NQ9TT4Gq5b

we have a female only one as well if you prefer

>>3411232
exactly same situation. pngtubing is exhausting. sometimes i just wanna have my model speak for me

>>3411297
god i wish i could afford a fofamit rig

>>3411312
a normal one of these? i couldnt care less for m/f separation

>>3411414
If you're willing to settle for a Booth model like they did, the 300 or so it takes to rig the mouth isn't really that bad. I've seen a few other people who do it so you can try shopping around but I think Artgun charged the same price when they were open.

>>3411787
the male one has more or less become a joint server at this point

>>3412078
ohhh okay! i just didnt want to join somewhere where i didnt belong

>>3409522
How are you retired at age 26? You a drug dealer?

>>3415239
nta, but getting Gamestop stocks, Dogecoin and other market stuff. a friend of mine "retired" too and he's 22 with over 400k in the bank from gamestop and AMC stocks

>>3342216
just pretend you're jewish. or really be jewish. works for sseth.

>>3411312
>temporary link

>>3415504
>a friend of mine "retired" too and he's 22 with over 400k in the bank from gamestop and AMC stocks
How are they retiring with 400k? That's not gonna last long.

>>3415959
yeah, that's why i said "retired" in quotes. dude's just living his life and not having to worry about finding a job after graduation.

>>3415767
All I want in life is seeth to go into vtubing

>>3416085
I know anon, but just remember, there is a... price, for everything. Are you willing to pay that price?

What's a decent budget option for a capture card? Or should I just get an elgato?

do you guys have any advice on growing your veiwerbase? I've been streaming for almost a month on twitch now (18 streams so far <3 ) and I have an average of 3 viewers. Views aren't everything obviously, I'm going to stream regardless. It's my personal goal to get to an average of 20-30 viewers, anyone here have any tips?

I've been streaming drawing and stardew valley, and depending on that day I'll start at either 2pm or 4pm est. I have a fully rigged model I've made myself, decent audio to normie standards, and my own overlay I've made. I do my best to not be too quiet for too long. I interact with the chat members I do have and they're all really sweet.

Any advice would be really appreciated ; w ;

>>3423447
that's the million dollar question, isn't it, anon?

>>3411823
i've already got a character design sheet in the works and current using a png of the character's portrait to stream. so going for a booth model seems like a huge waste of money i've already invested into this.

>>3423447
looks like you're at the phase where you have to market your stream! post links, clips and stuff at whatever appropriate places you can find

>>3423447
Marketing is the part of this game that everybody will claim to have an answer to but no one really does. This is because you have to know your audience and manipulate them into watching you, using a constant changing sets of tools with big globohomos at the top eager to rug pull you and hide your content.

>>3423447
have you tried being entertaining

>>3423447
>drawing and stardew valley
That's your problem.
Most people aren't interested in drawing streams unless you're Ina level or already have an existing fanbase who will watch anything you're in and Stardew Valley/farming simulators are boring as hell to watch.
Try playing some Rainbow Six Siege.

>>3423447
>>3424657
>>3424684
This. You've picked two of the most saturated and lethargic firlds to stream, as an indie chuuba that's not going to get you far anytime soon. Unless you have a 10/10 personality you desperately need some variety in your streams.

>>3424684
Gotcha! I'll try asking around and seeing what stuff is fun to watch while streaming! part of me is a little worried though about playing games that are too oversaturated.

>>3424034
>>3424450
:O! oh! I have a twitter but I'm afraid posting there about being live too often would be annoying, should I post my lives there anyway? what other socials should I be using to plug stuff?

thanks so much for the advice, bros!!

>>3401893
Who?

>>3425200
Make twitter polls

>>3425200
Using your Twitter to post when you're live is pretty standard stuff; don't be afraid to do so!

>try to do a test stream to some friends
>get throttled by isp and drop a thousand frames in 2 minutes

>>3415239
Actually my drug consumption helped me make bank, weed is good for trading stocks/crypto. To put it as simply as possible, I make bots, bots go brrr, number go up.

I'm retired in the sense that I will never have to work a job (never actually worked tho) but I still have to manage my bots and portfolio but that's not work that's 100% fun time. + being aware of the shit that happens in crypto.

I can kinda sit on my ass and travel (inb4) and do whatever the fuck i want that being said, i still need way more money, not for myself, for philanthropy. I want to feed children at an international scale, shits gonna cost a lot though. What ive noticed though, whenever I use money to help someone i always get more back somehow. (dangerous logic)

>>3425200
post live every time, and make discord for your stream community. you can ping when you go live there as well. some people go to big vtuber servers and ping when they go live as well

Anons whats the cheapest computer/laptop i can get for vtubing?

>>3428456
with so many factors that go into it, there's no way anyone will be able to answer that question for you, anon.

>>3428456
that honestly depends on what you want to stream and how you want to vtube. Just, like, get a gaming laptop and add some more ram to it or something idk.

>>3429657
Not him but I'm also looking into a new PC since mine is showing its age. Luckily I plan on streaming mostly older/low resource stuff (diablo style games, metroidvanias, and older games), but unfortunately Path of Exile is a resource hogging mess so I'll need to ensure that doesn't tank my streams. PC part prices are a shitshow right now though.

>>3346262
I made my design myself, and I'm rigging it myself, but I'm hiring an artist friend to do the actual art because I don't feel up to it skill wise. It's unique enough to stand out, simple, and I get good feedback when I show it to others. I don't know how well it's going to translate to live2d but we'll see.

>>3342591
https://youtu.be/IoKxaj-eWVM?t=4719
vtubing advice in the Q&A

If I already have a twitter with around 2k follows, would the smarter move for growth's sake be to rebrand (along with deleting everything from over say a year ago) or just to start fresh with a new page?

>>3438213
do you have dox shit on your current account? then start a fresh one.

if you don't care, rebrand, but keep in mind that the 2k people already following you pre-vtuber might not give a shit about you being a vtuber.

I'm trying to network on twitter but fuck these soulless predatory people and their tactics.
>let's be friends!
proceeds to get hundreds of replies and doesn't actually try to make friends
>Looking for some sparkly hair vtubers to follow, drop a png below!
Gets a manageable 20 replies and doesn't follow anyone
>NETWORKING THREADD
fuck me. Apparently you have to lie through your teeth and be a sociopath to succeed. I'm ngmi.

>>3439332
Graduated vtuber here, from my experience you will have better luck networking on discord or smaller communities like that. Twitter is an endless soul void for networking, it's better to maintain posting and like and reply to things you actually care about.

>>3439332
anon do you wanna be friends... i jus made my twitter account a week ago. my model is still being rigged and stuff tho ;;

>>3439332
Shilling yourself is an art and takes time to understand how to do it properly. Don't worry anon, we all had to learn to do it.

On Twitter you need to pick your threads. Start with small threads or even discord. Watch Vtubers with similar viewers than you and collab. It's all about slow meaningful growth.

>>3439947
if you dont mind, what was the reason for your graduation?

every fucking chuuba is streaming Resident Evil, oh my god

>>3440460
Of course, they are. That's how to get noticed right now.

>>3440460
That's not limited to chuubas

>>3440365
While it could be any number of reasons as I am not that anon the market is oversaturated. You're looking at either expanding the market or stealing market share right now. if you don't have a plan to do one or both just do this as a hobby.

Is "networking" (I don't even know how that applies to something like this) as simple as talking to other chuubas that you think are cool?

>>3440365
I got burnt out and ended up resenting my design. I'm working a new one at the moment, but I'm not active so still graduated.

>>3439947
Yeah, I think I'm going to scale back my twitter usage. I don't know anything about discord but I guess I can give it a try.
>>3439948
Pre-debut here too! let's be friends!
>>3440013
>similar viewers
I've been at this for a few months making content and have no viewers. Part of my post is my frustration at my shortcomings but also really is about how many fucking snakes exist in the vtuber community with their pretend good neighbor attitude. And what's worse is everyone accepts it and goes along with it...But I understand that's how it is and appreciate you anons' well-meaning advice

>>3440972
Yes. There is no certain period where the two of you acknowledge you're networking, it really just starts as a general interest in the other person and what they're doing.

>>3441058
What sort of content do you make?

>>3439332
With /wvt/ around networking has never been easier. You're suffering pointlessly trying to use twitter like that.

>>3342591
>Gay male voice
Incredibly disappointing.

>>3442252
Get your ears checked. That's just a deeper woman's voice, very common for the philippines

>>3342591
sounds like a tranny ...

>>3442680
and?

>>3442718
and that's gross. i want to hear feminine girls

>>3442830
sounds like you problem. go watch someone else then.

>>3442838
which I will. are you so insecure that someone's opinion on an oshi threatens your self worth?

>>3442891
now that's some grade a projection, kek

>>3439332
when I first started my twitter I interacted with a lot of chuubas and barely got any interaction back. I even posted a "I'll draw your png" and got zero interactions.
so I started getting into other communities and building a fanbase from there and it worked out pretty well. a month of streaming and I have 10 regular viewers that make it to every stream and around 20 more that try to make it.

>>3442931
>get called out
>"p-projection!!"

what if my only talent is being cute? I sound cute, I behave cute but I have nothing else to offer. not even jokes. just pure social anxiety. am I ever gonna make it?

>>3443137
Are you a female? if your avatar is good you might make it. if male you better have a shota voice and avatar or you're ngmi

>>3443155
I'm female with a loli model and a very high voice

>>3443178
Oh you're definitely gonna make it, no question

>>3443178
You'll make it.

>>3443178
As long as you don't get too close to males (as your avatar) and get into some kind of social circle you'll probably make it.

>>3443178
Ignore these anons
>>3443213
>>3443222
>>3443379
You'll make it if you try your best; even if you start out anxious and feel like you're not entertaining initially, improving over time will allow you to go pretty well!

>>3443178
lilyhops made it

I'm gonna be a male that makes it by sheer force of fucking will.

Anyone have some tips for point-rewards?

>>3443805
Based

>>3443994
Highlight message is fine if the number of chatters is still manageable, I think people really like the ones that play a dumb sound.

Thanks everyone who stopped by to my stream, I had a lot of fun. I can't do ukulele too often because of my voice, but I'll try to play some video games this week.

>>3444087
toss up a songlist on screen next time so we can go back through the vod and see what songs you've sang. nice work, power nelson

Any tips for adding in more kayfabe moments to my streams? I feel bad cause I sometimes slip up a bit but luckily my set up allows me to sorta make up for it if I think quick enough on my feet. I'm getting a costume soon that I am planning on making a magical transformation sequence with soon and I'm hoping adding more little stuff like that will help elevate my streams

>>3444495
come up with a kayfabe related out. parallel universies, alternate realities, simulations, drug induced memories, time travel, etc. being the reason why you confuse yourself.

>>3444560
I do try to add that in when my model messes up. And for OPSEC, I'm working on getting better about framing my stories around my kayfabe to help too. Luckily it's pretty easy to integrate IRL stories with a mahou shoujo kayfabe coat on top. I hope it's something viewers would enjoy and doesn't come off as too overly cheesy

>>3444694
sounds like a good spin on it. at that point, it's just practice and catching yourself. good luck, anon.

>>3444724
ty anon, here's hoping we all make it

I can't wait to finally get my model art. It's my turn next!

>new comment in your video!
>it's a spam bot

any anon here think that a "college TA" type of vtuber who does mostly games but also educational stuff on the side has potential?

>>3445943
Do you know Woyde? He has unrelenting linguistic-classes. He does not dumb down his content in any way. His audience is made out of less than 10 people but those stick around for every word.

I give this example to say: Yes. It is possible.
Will it make you famous? No, it won't.

>tfw can't find a good person to comm a model from that both has an appealing artstyle and also doesn't charge upwards of $700+ for just the unrigged model
>make a post in the live2d discord looking for modelers
>like 50 DMs but none of them are close to what I am looking for
It hurts bros, I just want someone who can draw a male model that isn't some sparkly eboy bishonen faggotry

>>3446609
Do you have a reference?

>>3446609
I feel you my boy. I mean, I don't because I am a filthy w*man v-tuber, but I hate that anime leans into the bishie boy shit so much. make sure to post your stuff here when you do find someone so I can simp for you during my streams.

>>3446609
That reminds me, how much is a model and rigging usually supposed to cost?

I''ve wanted to look into learning how to rig myself just to save costs, but I might skip it if it's not too much.

>>3447199
personally, my model cost ~400$ and my rigging cost ~100$ but I'm pretty sure that's on the cheap side

>>3447250
that's ridiculous cheap, yeah
>>3447199
Live2D's free trial is long enough to make your first model if you're a fast learner, as long as you're happy not making any significant changes until you actually buy it.

>>3446609
Use the artist for Belmond Banderas and Gilzaren III

>>3447199
it can be cheap, $100-$200 but those are either amateur rigs or people that undercharge.
a decent rig will cost you around $500 for a full body. some pretty good riggers have their prices around $600-$800. the best of the best charges $3-4K.
is it worth learning how to rig? perhaps. do consider that you will have to pay for live2d unless you manage to learn how to rig models in the free version and use the trial for your actual model. the free version is very limited! I would not recommend it for your actual model unless you only rig head and not full body. then it might work.
learning how to rig takes quite a bit of dedication. on the top of my head you have to learn how to draw and make meshes, how parameters work, how deformers work, deformer hierarchy and how to make that work, the texture atlas, the physics and making physics look good, general idea of perspective so your model looks and feels natural and not like paper, the animation tool if you want extra animations, how to set it up in face tracking, live2d viewer tool for expressions if you want extra expressions. ultimately if you plan to make money off it, learn it. if it's to save $500? just get a good rigger to do it for you. it will take you more time to learn how to rig a model that looks half decent than time it takes to make $500.

>>3447344
does he have comms open?

Chuubas just starting out, is it annoying/embarrassing if a somewhat bigger chuuba shills for you?

>>3447649
I would be so grateful.

>>3447392
>>3447310
Well desu the model I'm thinking of using isn't strictly a human shape, more of a teddy bear look, so I think it'd be easier to rig than a normal one. Another reason I think it'd be better to just do my own thing.

Is live2d the recommended? I got prprlive because it was free on steam, is it not good?

https://twitter.com/Lilin_VDaemon/status/1390756543235198976

Interesting thread here about viewership analytics, and how networking can be a waste of time.
TLDR: Vtuber spent a ton of effort on twitter networking, just to find out that the majority of her viewers were other vtubers. Networking is great if you want to find mutuals and friends and people to collab with, but normal people don't go into those threads.

>>3447768
live2d is the software you use to rig it. prprlive is the face tracking software you use after you rigged your model.

>>3447649
From a general streamer's perspective, if you know them and/or have an audience that you want to reach then it's fine; but if it's completely out of nowhere and their chat is filled with assholes who will spend 10 minutes spamming yours before never showing up again, you can see where it would be annoying.

>>3447768
you could always just give it your best shot. worst case just get a rigger. best case you won't need to. I had that exact mentality and I managed to rig my own model and it looks pretty good. I've also done plenty of animations with the skills I learned.

>>3447784
I don't think networking is a waste of time but then I'm not some asshole vtweeter that things networking is just trying to convince a bunch of other people who fail at doing what I'm trying to do to watch me.

>>3447784
she must be an absolute retard if it took her that long to figure out. jesus christ.

https://marshmallow-qa.com/terumikoizumi
Might be able to get some auditions related answers

>>3447933
or she was just trying to have the number evidence to prove a point to others

>>3447768
>>3447199
>>3447199
there’s this guy that does 3 hour tutorials and livestreams on live 2d that’s very thorough but i can’t seem to remover his name, it was recommended on vt but know i can’t seem to remember the name, it was iron something

>>3448380
remember*

>>3448380
>>3448396
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dd2ZArBalcw

Not this guy? He's been recommended to me before, but the video didn't really explain much.

>>3448494
no it’s not that guy, i really can’t seem to remember the name.

>>3423447
Post speed-drawings on youtube and at the end pop up with your avatar and ask people to join your drawing streams.
You'll have more success than people who post "lol so randumb" vlips, because the art folks actually watch videos and youtube promotes it, unlike gaming.

Can you have redeems without subscriptions? I don't actually want money but points are fun.

>>3450474
You cannot, unfortunately

>>3450526
Dang.

>>3445943
not a college TA but I do have a sort of scholarly aesthetic and I've done a weekly series of Japanese lessons:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDjSrOdEfpAvaPcYTU_oq_TZ8Is-WL9s_
I also want to bring this up because similar to what >>3446057 said, it is possible and I have regulars that pop in every week to learn
However, I wanted to ask /asp/ what they think about my presentation. A big thing I wanted to be able to do with these lessons is to be accessible, which has gotten harder and harder (understandably) as the weeks have passed and I wanted to see if I could get any opinions on my progress so far

>>3451185
i’m watching the first one and it’s pretty understandable, how’s your gaming content?

>>3451457
delivery is very reasonable from a teaching standpoint , hopefully you can gain a larger audience

>>3447784
>advertise yourself only to vtubers
>only attract vtubers
I dunno what they expected. The networking aspect with other vtubers is mainly to encourage collabs, raids, and so they talk about/retweet your stuff so that actual viewers might see your stuff more.

>>3451457
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCk1oLEozAKer083vBoL3iLg
I usually do challenge runs (ironman runs in fire emblem, sometimes speedruns) and right now I'm going through doom
I stream primarily on twitch though

>>3451735
>I dunno what they expected
it's been mentioned here before by myself and others. If these vtweeters had even an iota of self-awareness and took a cursory glance at what they were doing they'd notice that, big shock, the people interacting with their tags were just other vtweeters. I wish more of them realized they'd grow together as a community if they reached out more to other audiences through interactions and content creation, which includes shitty memes. As it is now, it's incredibly insular.

>>3446057
yeah, i'm not really planning on dumbing down my content either. i'm specifically aiming at a particular demographic that actually needs some deeper understanding of the content. not quick 60 second tidbits.

>>3451185
language stuff is neat. the subject i'm going for is kinda super dry and filled with a bunch of old dudes that ramble for way too long. so i'm hoping the vtuber thing might freshen it up.

Okay so I love horror games and I know people like to watch others play horror games, so I want to stream those sometimes
How do I keep myself from just whimpering and holing up in a safe spot the entire time

>>3456358
Just play how you normally would play, nothing wrong with any playstyle

>>3456358
that sounds pretty entertaining honestly. If i'm gonna watch a chuuba play a horror game i'd rather them be scared and get into it instead of being nonplussed

being active on social media is exhausted. but the extra viewers are worth it..

>>3456999
>>3457364
I just don't want to spend too long not progressing in the game I guess

>>3459233
i don't even know what to do on social media. i hate small talk and chit chat, i don't really care to air out random thoughts into the ether. but i know i gotta put myself out there. just not sure how without coming across like an idiot just saying shit for the sake of it.

anyone know artists that are good with clothing designs? even if japanese

keep it up, Terumi!

>>3448380
https://www.youtube.com/c/IronVertex/playlists

maybe you're thinking of the iron vertex group?

I don't like terumi's voice

>>3339798
Just uploaded a part of my Hololive audition video publicly.
It felt so bad that I put so much effort into something that cover didn't even watch ( no views) , but it feels a lot better now that I know I've gotten my viewer base to smile because of it. People actually like it!
(sorry for the mystery post. Just wanted this off my chest)

>>3342216
Melchiorchama....

>>3474808
chuubachama.. you can't just post this without linking the video

>>3474808
>>3475922
This, I'd like to see it as well!

>>3475922
>>3476155
hey I know better than to self-shill on vt!!

I just want everyone to know that even if cover or some other company doesn't like your content, if you have your own small viewerbase that you can make smile every day, then that's more than enough.

30 people is already a small classroom of people- a room full of people. That shit ain't COVID safe, but you're entertaining 30 people.

10 people? That's like... a conference meeting, or the entirety of a medium-sized friend group. That's more friends than some people will ever have the capacity for interacting with on a regular basis.

(am i backpedalling and switching gears- absolutely. But do I honestly mean what I said here- absolutely )

>>3342216
Outside grand strategy being really niche for viewers, you can definitely play them without being political as long as you aren't focusing on certain things like you mentioned. Like myself, I want to learn grand strategy but I don't care about any countries at all, I just want to create huge navies in games because I love WW2 naval combat.

I highly doubt anyone would raise a fuss anyway. The only people to bother would be doing it to cause a shitstorm and that only works with notable streamers.

>getting more excitement from commissioning art of my vtuber rather than streaming
oh no. i'm turning into an OC art commissioning shitter. help.

>>3478096
Whenever someone donates just think of spending it on a commission and hope for a contact high.

>>3478096
spend your money on getting a better mic or upgrading your pc

>>3478445
i already have a decent mic and unless i'm getting a sugar daddy hitting me with $1k donos, there's no way i'm gonna make enough to afford a PC upgrade right now.

I have
a focusrite solo and an at2035. Is this good enough of a setup for my voice

>>3478675
more than enough. bet you 9 times out of 10 none of your viewers will notice / care

>>3478706
it can pick up my swallowing my spit and small lip smacks, wtf? is this supposed to be this sensitive

>>3478745
drop the input gain on your solo. unless your viewers are into mouthsmack asmr

how twitter?

>>3396488
KIARA

at what point is it okay to talk about your fetishes on stream to your viewers?

>>3482701
Is your stream lewd/sexual focused? If not, I can't imagine it would come up unless said fetish appears in whatever you're doing then you can point it out I guess. Depending on what it is of course. If its feet/bdsm/whatever I could see it possibly coming up, but a lot of fetishes can break TOS on Twitch (and probably Youtube) just talking about them.

>>3482839
wasn't really serious. just wanted to bump the thread since we were at page 10

>>3482839
>a lot of fetishes can break TOS on Twitch (and probably Youtube) just talking about them.
Really?

>wanna be a successful vtuber
>tfw I'm a guy
Life is not fair.

>>3483463
Well yeah, depending on the fetish. I'm not gonna check the TOS right now but I'm pretty sure you can't describe illegal sex acts and whatnot, and some people have fetishes for stuff that falls under that.

>>3483339
Good enough reason. Honestly I figured it was serious since theres a decent amount of vtubers that focus heavily on lewd shit.

>keep checking my email for Akio Air third stage things despite knowing that they probably won't send out invitations to the third stage for at least a few more days since Stage 2 and 3 apparently take quite a bit longer than stage one and it's barely been 6 work days and they're taking a day and a half off
I'm a dumbass but waiting is important Anons

>>3483601
Success isn't a realistic goal for anyone, anon. Just try to be the best chubba you can be. If you find success along the way, great. If not, at least you have a hobby you enjoy and a cult of weirdos who look forward to your content.

>>3483615
>illegal sex acts

>pngtubing for a couple of weeks
>feel like shit since other vtubers have rigged live2d models with expressions and everything

>>3483615
Well sure, but there's a lot of things that are technically "illegal" but rather benign. Like, hypothetically, if someone were to say they like exhibitionism or public urination on stream, would that really be something that they bring the hammer on you for?

>>3484297
The cult of weirdos sounds amazing.
As long as at least a few of them are girls (female).

>>3484557
give up and join the air force

>tfw my favorite games are debuffs (Apex)

honest advice on building viewers, pick a game you like on twitch, look at the 4th row, and see how many viewers they have. thats how many you need to beat to get curiosity clicks. otherwise, you're at the mercy of the actual angels scrolling all the way down.

i just want to play chill shit like pokemon as chat talks to me :c i dont think im gonna make it bros

I can't believe it's taken me this long to figure out that there was something like this on the chins

>>3484557
You are me
I've been doing the same thing now for almost 2 months now because I'm waiting on my artist to finish the character. I'm not even using a human PNG yet, I'm one of those animal tubers but instead of a human character I just have this meme fish body that I'm using
I have a crisis of identity and don't even feel comfortable marketing myself as a vtuber in any way because everyone else I see either has (1) a human character or (2) a rigged model. Haven't been trying to really network nearly as much as I could or should be because of this impostor syndrome too
The only things keeping me going right now are sheer willpower, faith in my artist to make it in time for IV's May 20th deadline, repeatedly convincing myself endlessly that using this time as streaming experience will pay dividends later, and the 2 chads who have been coming to basically every single stream I've done in the past month
Hang in there.

>>3486476
You will feel more comfortable when you realize that the only thing that's going to change when you get your avatar is that you're going to have an animated avatar. At heart you're still a streamer, and vtuber is just an easily identifiable tag rather than a commitment to the common ideas surrounding them.

>>3486545
I definitely get that, and it's something I'm coming to terms with at this current stage
I guess if I had to describe it I just feel... stuck? I've been planning out so many things that I want to do but I feel like I can't "waste" any of them on the pre-model streams I'm doing right now, if that makes sense. I have a huge game backlog I want to stream, I've been keeping track of life things and building a deck for zatsus, I'm practicing songs for karaoke, I'm thinking of batsu games and other more interactive-type things to do, but it just feels like none of it will really work until I get that model. It's a giant catch-22, I probably irrationally feel like I can't make this new content until I get bigger, but then I can't grow more without a wider variety of content
Like, the only things I'm streaming right now are Monster Hunter Rise and 3U. MonHun will still be the core of my content even after I get the model but these two games are really starting to stretch thin at this point.

>>3484672
Statistically, they outnumber us, so the odds are in your favor.

Tragically, whether your content is appealing to them is going to be the limiting factor. If your some kind of black butler/emo/goth who has a lighthearted nature but a dark and wounded backstory -- you're in. If you're just a normal chubba you got your work cut out for you.

>>3486712
>If your some kind of black butler/emo/goth
Well, I'm in luck then. Goth boy, probably add in some supernatural spice for flavor.

all male chubas need to die

>>3486746
Hey, if you got the style, and you got the drive, now all you need is the content.

>>3486765
Who hurt you, anon? Did you get tricked by a voice changer? Did you unknowingly fall in love with a tranny streamer? Did a babi hurt your feelings?

Are MOBAs considered a debuff?

>>3483739
I feel you anon. I've been checking my shit religiously since the Stage 2 invite

>>3487077
only if you're not appealing to the dota audience

>>3486765
Kill yourself, you aren't a vtuber fan, just a waifu obsessed loser with no friends.

How do these screens look?

https://mega.nz/folder/eVtCHRgK#HOzYxde9vVuxhfx5Zfcong

>>3487077
It's a buff if you're appealing to those audience. Mobile MOBA is pretty popular too but it attracting a lot little shits from Latin America and SEA.

Is being bad at ASSFAGGOTS a debuff? I always bottom frag in Apex and valorant too.

>>3484557
same. I've been PNGtubing for 1-2months now. I have a 15 average, being active on twt and having a cute png/voice is doing wonders. But I just want my model already

>>3487247
Your chat window is small but other than that it looks fine.

I can only tell this secret to you /asp/, but I actually rigged naked. My dick is actually rigged in with my model's tail and no one is the wiser lmao

>>3487469
What does "being active on twitter" entail? Retweeting other chubas? Posting random fridge thoughts? Something else I'm not thinking of?
I'm asking because I never really got into social media as a kid and now I feel like I'm playing catch-up figuring out all the details of how it works. I basically only use twitter to post schedules/stream announcements and occasionally respond to the couple of people that I'm following right now

>>3487469
What hashtags do you normally use when tweeting?

>>3487737
Retweeting only starts making sense once you have followers. Similarly to YouTube, one of the tried strategies is finding an account that has a specific niche, and then interacting with the followers of that account. Specifically, you need to provide answers to questions people had, but that weren’t answered in the other creators content.

So, the way to think about it is this.
Who are you a fan of? Could you add to and improve their work, and how?

This is why people advise you to hang out in the streams of others, comment sections and forums.

>>3487883
I've been posting a little bit on reddit recently (in a non vtuber-related sub), but I haven't really been active on other creators' and chubas' content.
I don't know if I can really get over feeling like I'm trying to pilfer others' viewers but I suppose I'll look into the comment section thing at least
Thanks for the advice!

>>3488025
But that’s the thing, you HAVE TO pilfer others viewers! Where else will they come from? All chuubas are fighting for an audience, and the audience either comes from another content creator, or it‘s newcomers to YouTube/Twitch. And to capture the latter, you have to already be on the „recommended“ page.
Don’t feel bad about it. You may be bringing people something they didn’t know they wanted, and not have them settle for the second best similar alternative.

>>3360873
never underestimate the flip buff
those SEAniggers are everywhere

>>3425222

>>3339798
Anyone have resources for metal screaming? I'm too tone-deaf for normal singing and screaming might be fun.

>>3487737
I don't RT other chuubas or engage with them much. I'm on friendly terms with a few and that's it. my design choices invite unwanted drama from other ENchuubas so I'm keeping my distance.
I tweet 1-2 a day, sometimes short skits and png edits.
I've built my viewers from other communities. there are many on twitter and almost every other game has it's own community. just stream games with an existing community, advertise to them and some of them end up sticking around.
not saying I have the biggest reach but I have steady grow so it's working out for me! the game is rigged from the beginning, being a Vtweeter for the first few weeks is almost essential.

for people who applied to akio air, i just got to phase 2, so they are definitely still looking through their apps. stay hopeful everyone! i believe in us :)

>>3487674
show

Most obscure request: Anyone have advice on developing a speech pattern? Think of Kongou as example. All I could find was "read more".

>>3490065
I wonder if anyone's gotten to the interview stage yet since I got my 2nd stage invite last Sunday.

>>3490454
Stream with it, then play the speech back and analyse. Think of a character from media works that has that pattern and say their lines.

>>3490519
It's hard to analyze patterns in English because ESL but I will try, thanks!

>>3490456
i'm wondering what their base criteria was for passing stage 1, since it seems a lot of us made it in. they might actually be looking for male applicants

>>3490764
In their Reddit post they said they were accepting people who had any voice; I would imagine that they were looking for people who did particularly good vocal performances

>>3490764
I doubt it was that high with how many people seemed to have passed, but that makes me think I probably dropped the ball on the 2nd stage with how long it's been. I could just be an inpatient cunt though.

>>3490996
There were a lot of people on the Reddit post complaining about how they hadn’t gotten into stage 2, so I’m pretty sure they’re a little overwhelmed still by the number of applicants (they did tweet basically that out a few days ago)

New thread? We’re on Page 10

this one artist I commissioned to do some character design suddenly got into depressed mode just when I commissioned them

>>3494630
damn anon how shitty is your design.

>>3494780
I didn't get anything and its been two months

>>3494832
(it was a joke playing that your design was so bad it gave this guy depression.)
I don't know what to tell you man. Two months with nothing is a long fucking time I can't believe you haven't asked him what's up or tried getting your money back. Sucks to be you but if you keep waiting on this one artist to do something when they're not in the right state of mind you'll keep setting yourself back.

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