/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>3657950
You can't rationalize the thought process of a bug.

jeez you holofags are going on about this shit again, they don't deny that taiwan exists, just that it's an independent country
inb4
>hurrrrr I don't care zhang chink bug blahblahblah
if you don't care then don't bother going on about stuff you have no clue about

>>3657985
She literally posted the flag. This is the thing that triggers them the most

>>3657985
This. It's not as if Taiwan isn't a place, holos just identified it as being independent of China. Even though doog even said Florida separately to USA, and you don't see burgers throwing tantrums. Hate bugmen, simple as.

The Coco incident was nothing to do with her saying Taiwan and everything to do with her being an American who did more than anyone else to make the western market surpass China as Hololive's second largest

>>3658024
Americans WANT Florida to be separate from the US, that's why.

>>3657950
Coco mentioned China and Taiwan as separate statistics, Claire just mentions Taiwan. Mentioning Taiwan isn't bad, bugs only care if you say anything that could even remotely imply China and Taiwan are different entities.
There, I saved you 50 future threads, no need to thank me.

>>3657950
zhang hates Coco and was thinking it was her who makes holo stopped pandering to them and suck EN's cock instead, it has nothing to do with Taiwan shit, it's just an excuse

>>3658024
That's a lame comparison. You see, USA means United *States* of America. Each state is practically its own country with its own flag.

>>3657985
haha nice one
>>3658024
>compare USA with Chinkland
oh no no no

>>3658014
keep sperging if you want I guess, they still won't care, coco's taiwan stunt was the last drop when they were already very angry at her and it was right after haato just got scolded for the same thing so they took it as deliberate provocation
but every time it's explained to you holoniggers you just go
>HURDUR DON'T CARE DON'T CARE CHINA BAD ZHANG HURDUR BUG INSECT
so whatever, not sure why you're bothering with this petty autism if you don't even understand what happened with coco

>>3658184
Only difference is that Chinese women say dogs whereas American women fuck them

>>3658187
Are you seriously trying to justify why a bunch of schizos sent spam toward Coco for half a year?

>>3658187
50¢ has been deposited into your China Bank account.

>>3658338
>>3658379
just as predicted, you again ignore it when people explain what happened why the stuff in the op is irrelevant and then just go
>HURDUR U JUSTIFY??????? ZHANG BAD!!!!!!!!!
ok whatever autists, keep sperging and watch as nothing happens

>retards ITT
it wasn't about Taiwan
it was about Haato and Coco pandering to west

>>3658407
they'll just call you a chink again or some shit and ignore whatever you say, holoniggers are mentally ill

>>3658338
The board is being raided by zhangs. If you look around you see a bunch of them scurrying around like roaches, infesting the whole place. Might have something to do with NijiEN and them trying to use them as a fronts against Holo.

>>3658187
>so whatever, not sure why you're bothering with this petty autism if you don't even understand what happened with coco
we understand that chinks are yellow schizos, don't worry

>>3658390
I've not seen anything in any one of your post be fact up by facts, I've only you speculate as to why the chinks did what they did, which is simple. They harassed the holos involved because they don't want Taiwan seen as independent even though it's a completely different place culturally and politically to the shit tip that China is.

>>3658379
>>3658434
>>3658442
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>>3658442
doesn't seem like it, since you're sperging about claire going on a trip to taipei, and not understanding how it's not even remotely similar to what happened with coco

>>3658080
Burger here, If we're getting rid of a state, Florida wouldn't even be in the top five.

>>3658337
An American is worth around 11 Chinese, going by the kill/death ratio of Korea.

>>3658072
the zhangs justified it that Coco in their minds repeatedly made antagonistic statements and actions prior to that and that it was the last straw

>>3658461
>Kinder surprise
kek'd

>>3658459
go read their threads on bilibili then if you care, not my problem, still you're a retard if you think it was just a single isolated incident, it was brewing for months and that was the moment when it blew up, the straw that broke the camel's back as they say
you holoniggers do this every month, you find someone who once mentioned taiwan and start sperging
>HOW COME THE CHINESE AREN'T ANGRY AT THEM?????????
jeez I wonder, it's almost like they don't care, and again this was explained to you holoniggers over and over and you don't care you just threw out some insults and ignore it, so whatever, keep sperging, and still nothing will happen

>>3658390
I'm going to be honest and say that I do not give a shit about whatever political bullshit you are defending here, but we can all agree that the spam situation was uncalled for right?

>>3658543
I'm not even defending anything, just explaining why sperging about vtubers mentioning taiwan is retarded and not comparable to coco's situation
don't care, not my problem, reddit whore can get fucked for all I care

>>3658541
cope harder big boy

>>3658541
Here's the thing though, in this instance Coco didn't do anything wrong.

It's weird that they got so upset about hololive focusing more on their EN audience and making an EN branch when Nijisanji is doing the same thing rn. I wonder if Niji CN and EN's success will be the inverse of Holo CN and EN, but I kind of hope that Niji EN does well to see if they're both schizos and hypocrites.

>>3658585
So you actually agree that the Coco spammers were, in fact, retarded then?

>>3658541
>it was brewing for months and that was the moment when it blew up
I'm legitimately curious and I'm not being antagonistic here, can you give some examples?

>>3658604
ok, claire will still stream on bilibili, and the chinese still won't care that she went on a trip to taipei 2 years ago
>>3658611
don't really care, you don't understand the situation though
>>3658635
I don't agree, or particularly disagree, coco is a retard, she's in good company with her retards

>>3657950
Bugs have evolved. They don't want to cancel the things they enjoy anymore. Probably self-policing antis by now.

Korone and Aqua have already said Taiwan. Hell, Aqua said that Taiwan wasn't China.

>>3658666
I do, in that instance Coco, didn't do anything wrong.

>>3657950
sister claire does bilibili streams?

>>3658666
Holy shit man were the spammers in the wrong or not for harassing Coco? It's a fucking simple question, m8.

>>3658704
Same story with Haato. Both her and Coco got the same punishment for the same offense, yet the bugmen said Haato's sentence was too harsh and Coco's wasn't harsh enough and that she should graduate. There must've been more to it. Given the infos, it doesn't make sense why they singled her out.

>>3658663
pretty sure you can even find it in the archives if you want to look back like 8 months and look for threads on bilibili, you don't have to take my word for it, but the chinese did feel like hololive was neglecting them and favouring the "white" (english speaking) audience over them, especially with coco, then came the issue of haato mentioning taiwan, she got off with a warning then to not talk about that stuff, then a day later coco did it again and then they took it as provocation, what inreased the effect of it was that the asacoco was streamed to bilibili too, it wasn't just on youtube, then in the aftermath of course coco taunting them with the "fuck off" thing didn't bode well and obviously just encouraged them to be more aggressive
it was a lot more series of events than just mentioning taipei on an instagram post 2 years ago, but I guess some holoniggers will try to pretend that it's the same

>>3658666
>don't really care, you don't understand the situation though
>I don't agree, or particularly disagree, coco is a retard, she's in good company with her retards
poor little thing, we don't understad he's a retard...

>>3658779
so you could have this discussion. It's not about the offense, it's about sending a message "it might not happen to you, but it COULD happen to you, so stay in your lane"

>>3658707
technically she kind of did, she didn't discuss the content of the show with the managers, she didn't pay attention to see that haato got reprimanded for doing it earlier, she could have avoided the situation for at least a while if she had less attitude and paid more attention
>>3658775
don't care, it's a simple answer
>>3658839
I'm not the one sperging that someone mentioned taiwan therefore chinese must cancel them, then sperg and seethe like a retard when they don't care

>>3658093
>Coco mentioned China and Taiwan as separate statistics, Claire just mentions Taiwan.
Is this what chinks brainwashing told you? Watch the clip of it. She didn’t mention China at all. All she literally did was show the analytic and goes 7% of my viewers are from Taiwan. China wasn’t on the chart and it wasn’t even mentioned.

>>3658811
It's too bad it happned... Even though as much as 4chan likes to shitpost about it. Coco at all wasn't trying to be a martyr. She was just acknowledging some of her fans existence. So when >>3658541 Starts spouting bs like that on the board, it gets real annoying because such a narrative is still rampant in /vt/. Ultimately, what lead to the yab of CN wasn't Coco, or her pandering to the west, but the Antis and CN talents themselves. It also doesn't help. it is what it is though.

>>3658187
Your chink ass expect people to understand your retarded mental gymnastics of a narrative? If she was provoking your ass, she should had make a picture of Winnie the Pooh holding a taiwan citizenship card. Matter of fact is, coco shown a analytic and mentioned Taiwan which was on it, everything else are your retarded excuse.

>>3657950
It's Claire, that's why

>>3658883
>she could have avoided the situation for at least a while if she had less attitude and paid more attention
But that's not the point I'm trying to make. The Chinese people shouldn't be getting mad and Coco at all because she didn't do anything wrong in the first place. Such attacks is wholly unwarranted and misguided to think they were getting "provoked". It's entirely on them to be taking an act of acknowledgement to some fans as a political attack. She never said it maliciously or with intent. No matter how much this board wants to push her as a martyr, she wasn't and that wasn't her attention. So, I'll say it one more time. Coco, In this instance, didn't do anything wrong.

>>3659094
just as predicted, holoniggers don't care if it's explained to them why vtubers can mention taiwan and the chinese don't care and you just start screeching
>HURDUR CHINK WAAH WAAAAH CHINA BAD CHINA BAAAAAAAAAAD
whatever, keep sperging
not that your "argument" even makes any sense, if I was a chinese like you're accusing me then that should be solid proof that the chinese don't care about cleaire posting her vacation on taipei, what even is supposed to be your point

>>3657950
Because it didn't get accidently posted on bilibili like what happened to Coco and Haachama.

The entire thing makes no sense, I guess a specific group of Insectoids hate Coco
And Hololive took the opportunity to axe CN branch cause who cares about them, not Bugmen that's for sure

>>3659202
depends on how you define "wrong", she did "wrong" in the first place by not consulting the management about the contents of the show
but whatever either way I don't care, I was just explaining why chinese don't care about claire's instagram post, why they didn't care about akane's post, why they didn't care about ars almal mentioning taiwan, why they didn't care when aqua mentioned taiwan, why they didn't care when choco, haato etc etc etc did something that holoniggers think could offend the chinese
retard holoniggers run this circle every week

>>3658811
That still sounds like their rrat was that hololive is sending anti-china signals through multiple of their talents and that initially at least coco was just the unlucky victim who was the straw that broke the camel's back according to them. Then her acting like a typical american who antagonized the people who gave her hate instead of being remorseful, it just made them angrier.

>>3659313
I don't think that was the point, no one ever said that coco was an unlucky victim, they said haato was the unlucky victim, they always fucking hated coco

>>3658116
Is it just me or I think covid is the main reason of Hololive doesn't feel to pander zhang in sense that Hololive usually use live concert to pander them

>>3658072
https://files.catbox.moe/m4du4p.mp4

>>3659236
You throw out a bunch of nonsense narrative to defend the chinks and you expect me to think you are not a chink? Show me a clip or stream of coco saying China and Taiwan are two different country, do it. Everything else you said is just a justify to defend your chinks buddy. My point is that your chink ass is being selected with your target because of some mental illness, seek help.

>>3659287
makes plenty of sense even with your own post
>they hated coco
yeah, and when she committed a faux pas they jumped, they don't hate claire, or akane, or aqua, or haato, or ars or whoever, so even if they commit a faux pas they don't care

>>3659360
I was not talking from the POV of the bugmen, but in general. She got unlucky to be the one who was the final straw in their eyes and after that she really "fucked up" when she got "confrontational" with her end message.

>>3657985

>they were already very angry at her

for literally no reason other than being trash bugs with stupid rrats by the way.

>>3659451
not even defending anything, you holoniggers are so fragile and mentally ill, seriously, you think chinese will cancel someone over a 2 years instagram post? really? you think that will happen? what is the point of your sperging?

>>3659306
> I was just explaining why chinese don't care about claire's instagram post, why they didn't care about akane's post, why they didn't care about ars almal mentioning taiwan, why they didn't care when aqua mentioned taiwan, why they didn't care when choco, haato
But Coco did the exact same thing as these other talents... She didn't go out of her way to say China, nor did she mention China at all. She mentions taiwan just likes all those other chuubas. In fact, if there was a holo to directly go after, then they should be going after Aqua. Aqua intentionally says that,"Taiwan is not China". Aqua doesn't do what all these other chuubas do. In fact she goes much further. with that statement, you could argue that was a political statement. Unlike all the other ones who "just" mentions taiwan without china. So again, I will say, in this instance, Coco didn't do anything wrong.

>>3659202
>The Chinese people shouldn't be getting mad and Coco at all because she didn't do anything wrong in the first place.
In case you didn't notice, they weren't mad at Coco because of Taiwan. they're mad at her because she's a baka gaijin and she was trying to reach out to the west. The entire thing was a nationalist circlejerk.

>>3659202
I must say that I hate bugs as much as the next for their mental retardation but in someway I do consider pitying them since alot of them were also pulled in by the same rrats but people trying to stir up a shitstorm. Most of them actually brought the narrative she was against China, thus so was cover and thus spazzed the fuck out without double thinking. There was a majority of them who thought they were being patriotic and earning big social credits, the mentality of them being children at best.
Its sad. Not even something that can be laughed at. Maybe just a small snigger at best.

>>3659472
I dunno, I think she reap what she sow but whatever kind of besides the point
>>3659484
sure whatever, fact of the matter is that they're not angry at claire so they don't care
>>3659508
see again it's the same problem
>but they should think this and that
they don't, you're missing the point, you don't understand the situation

>>3659512
>they weren't mad at Coco because of Taiwan. they're mad at her because she's a baka gaijin and she was trying to reach out to the west

what the fuck is this shit? not even YOU belive this trash
fucking yellow dog eaters

>>3659556
>they don't, you're missing the point
Why do we have to look at it in their biased eyes when we can look at it in more of a impartial way?
If we're still going to look at it in their eyes, they still should be going after someone like aqua for saying,"China is not Taiwan". All of the other chuubas do exactly the same thing but Coco is getting slapped while aqua gets off scott free? Can't you see what you're saying man?

>>3659611
>blahblahblah be impartial blahblahblah chinese should think this and think that blahblahblah
are you autistic?

>>3658434
Does vt fear the Zhangs as much as twitter fears Nazis? Seeing them in every corner

>>3659556
>I dunno, I think she reap what she sow but whatever kind of besides the point
Yeah, sure. Won't change anything about anything to discuss it, but I still think they overreacted. Becoming confrontational at people who heap hate at you, is a really fair position. I especially think hololive pulling out of china was the right choice. They literally tried to negotiate like terrorists. "Graduate her or else".

As someone who is familiar with vtuber history on bilibili, i will explain a bit. In short holo got too popular too fast, attracting too much attention and jealousy from all sides. As for niji, nijijp just isn't that popular on bilibili (most members don't even do bili streams there). Niji china fans also gatekeep hard (think of niji thread on jp), they don't really promote niji and keep it as a secret circle. Anyone who tried to spread bad rats about niji get destroyed by them. Problematic clips like taiwan mentions just get deleted by their translation group instantly.

>>3659645
don't care, not my problem, you don't understand the situation though

>>3659636
You have been blowing off all my arguments. You won't even acknowledge that Aqua has done far worse than Coco... Look man I'm not like any of these other guys. I'm not gonna call you a chink or anything like that. You can argue with me honestly. I'm not here to just throw you under the bus.

>>3659502
Is your chinks ass that stupid? The point is that it shows how mentally retarded you guys are. You ignore everyone else who did basically the same thing coco did which mean that in reality you don’t really give a crap about taiwan and you just hate coco for whatever reason and you are using taiwan as an excuse. So using your taiwan excuse to justify yourself ain’t going to work. So don’t give a bunch of bs about it being her fault and own up to it being a mental illness that you have.

>>3658883
It's obvious you are a zhang and that you care quite a bit.

>>3658093
No she didn't, retard. China isn't in youtube analytics.

>>3659643
Nah, but it gets annoying seeing them shit up the place as with any raid. Nobody gives a shit about them but doesn’t mean anyone want to deal with the smell.

>>3659675
because it's retarded
>but pigeons should be purple because of this and that
but they aren't, and that's that, nobody cares how you think things should be, they aren't, end of story

Damn, where did i put my bug spray...

>>3659681
>don’t really give a crap about taiwan and you just hate coco for whatever reason and you are using taiwan as an excuse
you're still just randomly sperging and strawmanning but yeah that's the point, they don't really give a shit about someone mentioning taiwan, they hate coco, that's why no one else got in trouble for mentioning taiwan
>>3659711
if that's your "argument", then what even is your point? evidently then even in your eyes chinese don't really care about the taiwan thing

>>3659651
Thanks for chiming in, but that still doesn't answer the current question at hand for why coco got singled out from hololive despite many other talents mentioning taiwan as and even saying it's not part of China, didn't get hate. Got any idea about that?

>>3659651
>In short holo got too popular too fast, attracting too much attention and jealousy from all sides.
So just typical chinese entertainment scene or entertainment in general?

>>3659665
> I am not a chink, trust me guy
> you don’t understand the problem, only I do
>I am really not a chink
Sure, might as well show us a picture of yourself as white that you find off google to prove yourself.

>>3659716
OP seems to care about them, he's digging up 2 years old instagram posts just to talk about china

>>3659556
>Every post he makes increasingly outs him as both an ESL and a Chinaman
You can go jump into a sinkhole at any time, Zhang.

>>3658116
This

>>3659665
Would you be so kind to explain then? You're not making much sense right now.

>>3659725
>ESL babble and strawman arguments
Just answer the fucking question, Xiang.

>>3659795
>>3659805
see >>3658187
just as I predicted, no point in even explaining anything to you holoniggers, keep sperging I guess, claire will still keeping on bilibili and get 20k viewers
>>3659812
already have, like 10 times, read the thread

>>3659556
>she reap what she sow
Zhang, no questions.

>>3659835
>ESL babble

>>3658682
lmao they still hovering around Coco with vpn n shit

>>3659769
Yet your dumbass keep trying to justify their behavior as some kind of justifiable excuse and that there is something behind it that only you and the chinks understand when in reality it is just blind hate from a bunch of mental retards.

>>3659833
>holonigger babble and strawman arguments
you're still an idiot
>>3659837
then again, what's the point of your sperging? if anyone points out that the chinese don't care you call them chinese, what is supposed to be your argument?

>>3659870
>Their
It's HIS behaviour, he's clearly a chink too lmao.

>>3659725
So, let me get this straight. You won't engage with anything I say because You think because Chinese people don't operate under the same lens as I do? you know we can still talk our ideas... You have already said earlier in the thread that Coco mentioned taiwan. Many other and I have pointed out to you that that is not the case. She mentions only Taiwan and brings no reference to china. I then bring up an instance of where Aqua has gone even further than Coco has ever gone. I finally ask why. Why does Coco get the short end of the stick when multiple vtubers have done EXACTLY the same thing as Coco, but Coco gets singled out and the 1 Chuuba who could have actually said a REAL political statement gets off scott free. You blow EVERYTHING off, even AQUA MENTIONING THAT TAIWAN AND CHINA ARE SEPERATE COUNTRIES, because in your words >but pigeons should be purple because of this and that
>but they aren't, and that's that, nobody cares how you think things should be, they aren't, end of story

>>3659785
Anon who chime in, one word, american. Every bad rat was piling and putting the blame on her too, at that point, there is no more return.

>>3659874
>Can't think of an original insult so he just repeats what I said back to hin with one word swapped
Oh, and even more
>ESL babble

>>3659870
>blind hate
sure whatever, but it's hate towards coco, that's the point
>>3659882
so again what's the point of your sperging, if someone says that chinese don't care about claire's post then you call them chinese, so chinese don't care about claire's post then

>>3659874
你妈妈是妓女
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>>3659835
>already have, like 10 times, read the thread
I did and you just keep saying vague stuff like "they already hated her" and never explain why.

>>3659910
>Chink babble
你妈妈是妓女

>>3657950

People in China can say Taiwan. It's not a fucking forbidden spell or something.

People literally travel back and forth between Taiwan and the PRC all the time. I'm not trying to say that the PRC isn't shit or that relations are good, but rather, that people there know Taiwan is a thing and don't care if you mention it.

>>3659903
That was my suspicion too, but I thought it wouldn't make sense becaue EN hasn't gotten attacked by them and despite three of them being actual Americans. Did the bugmen try to attack EN and failed?

>>3659898
>Chinese people don't operate under the same lens as I do
yeah, and it doesn't matter how you think they should act, they don't, and that's that
>>3659904
>holonigger babble
>>3659919
>>3659941
keep sperging I guess, just as I predicted
>>3659923
pandering to westerners, american shit

>>3659898
Why are you wasting your time on a bait thread. There is no discussion here. It is literally a troll, not even sure if actually a zhang, flinging shit and trying to get attention. Even if you’re trying to fight the good fight you’re wasting your effort. Let this bug infested shit thread die. Move on and spend your time on something of more value.

>>3659725
Yes, if you're impartial you should think certain things, you seem to be saying that's unreasonable.
Impartially, people should generally think most pigeons are white. If a group erroneously insisted pigeons were purple, they definitely should not think that. But your argument consists of "Oh that group can think whatever they want, you just don't understand, how dare you try to tell them pigeons are white, pigeons can be purple and grass is blue you retard blah blah stop shaming me."
So if your belief is that any group should get to believe literally anything they want, then just say that. Child rapists get to believe that raping children is okay, stop telling them what to believe, motorists can run you over with their cars, stop telling them what to believe? Is this really the argument that you're proud of? That anyone should believe what they want and nobody should voice anything against that ever? Or do you agree that some groups should believe other things instead of avoiding it and saying "you just don't understand serial killers!"

>>3659958
你妈妈是妓女

>>3659835
Your explanation all come down to, you don’t understand the situation behind it, the chinks has this justifiable reason. Shut the fuck up. How the fuck do you know what that reason is if you are not a chink yourself? That is like some dude here visit 5chan and somehow claims to know everything about it and then goes “oh I am not Japanese”.

>>3659958
>pandering to westerners, american shit
Then that's hardly "reaping what she sowed". They literally through a tantrum because she wanted to appeal to a different audience. How can you say the hate was justified?

>>3659792
Yes popular people just get raided easily there, look no further than the kagura nana incident and mea incident recently. Raiding, spamming, spreading rats, slandering and harassing is normal culture for netizens on china. That's why coco get spammed for half a year, to them it is just normal and just for fun.

>>3659958
你祖母是个“慰安妇
你妈妈是妓女

>>3659958
>yeah, and it doesn't matter how you think they should act, they don't, and that's that
Ok, so what do (you) believe exactly. (You) have some kind of weight in this because (you) have a lot of information regarding the Chinese side of things. With all that info (you) must have formed your own opinion on all this. So I only ask (you) Anon. What did (you) think of the entire situation.

>>3659992
>How can you say the hate was justified?
because he is a chink or a China simp

>>3659956
En pulled out their bilibili accounts before they even debuted, enma did the right thing.

>>3659965
too much random sperging, don't care
>>3659977
>you don’t understand the situation behind it
that's true though
>the chinks has this justifiable reason
justifiable or not there's a reason, why coco got in trouble for stuff that dozens of others didn't get in trouble
why are there no earthquakes in france, there's a reason for that, is it justifiable? dunno, that's just how it is, you can sperg about why there's no earthquakes in france, not much point though
>>3659992
could've avoided streaming it to bilibili at least, but whatever it's besides the point
>>3660032
I think holoniggers are retarded because they make shit threads like this every week and sperg out about people mentioning taiwan, whining why the chinese don't cancel them, not sure what's even the point, just some whining session? pretty cringe

>>3659958
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>>3660064
le ebin copypasta, keep on sperging, you're just proving my point

>>3660032
Pretty sure his opinion on this is, he hates coco and that she deserves it just because he doesn’t like her, that it.

>>3660062
你妈妈是妓女你祖母是个“慰安妇动态网自由门 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Free Tibet 六四天安門事件 The Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 天安門大屠殺 The Tiananmen Square Massacre 反右派鬥爭 The Anti-Rightist Struggle 大躍進政策 The Great Leap Forward 文化大革命 The Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution 人權 Human Rights 民運 Democratization 自由 Freedom 獨立 Independence 多黨制 Multi-party system 台灣 臺灣 Taiwan Formosa 中華民國 Republic of China 西藏 土伯特 唐古特 Tibet 達賴喇嘛 Dalai Lama 法輪功 Falun Dafa 新疆維吾爾自治區 The Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region 諾貝爾和平獎 Nobel Peace Prize 劉暁波 Liu Xiaobo 民主 言論 思想 反共 反革命 抗議 運動 騷亂 暴亂 騷擾 擾亂 抗暴 平反 維權 示威游行 李洪志 法輪大法 大法弟子 強制斷種 強制堕胎 民族淨化 人體實驗 肅清 胡耀邦 趙紫陽 魏京生 王丹 還政於民 和平演變 激流中國 北京之春 大紀元時報 九評論共産黨 獨裁 專制 壓制 統一 監視 鎮壓 迫害 侵略 掠奪 破壞 拷問 屠殺 活摘器官 誘拐 買賣人口 遊進 走私 毒品 賣淫 春畫 賭博 六合彩 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Winnie the Pooh 劉曉波动态网自由门

>>3660062
No, not about the the threads. What is (you)r stance on Coco mentioning Taiwan.

>>3660082

>>3660097
don't really care, just stop involving other people in your autistic sperging

>>3659306
"zhangs do nothing wrong" lmao they did, but because of their hyper inflated ego they will never admit it. They love fanatic nationalism and never love Coco.

>>3660114
talking about esl babble

>>3660062
>that's true though
And you understand because? Pretty much everyone with a brain all understand that it is just because they are mentally ill but you are the one going they have this grand excuse that only you understand so it is ok for them to hate coco.

>>3660062
>could've avoided streaming it to bilibili at least
They could've just not watched it, if it didn't appeal to them. That's what most normal people do.

Incase anyone hasn't worked it out yet
>Chinks hated Coco already
>Her reference to Taiwan provided the excuse to go full chimp
>Here we are

They don't hate any of the other chuubas who have said Taiwan, so they don't care. This is purely a personal matter with political stuff as an excuse. The only difference between this and any other anti shit is that bugs are special - they have said that they will not stop harassing Coco and Cover until Coco graduates, so they physically cannot stop until this happens, or they would 'lose face.' This sort of autism is one of the many reasons why bugs are not human, and no right-thinking person would ever for a moment consider them as such.

>>3660052
based enma

>>3660111
>I don't care at all, I just hate that dumb western whore and how she insuted the glorious People's Republic and how she pandered to the people from her homelands instead of people she has no connection to outside of her business life

Keep sperging, Zhang, or Li, or Chen or whatever fucking gutteral grunt your name might have been vaguely based on, you fucking insect.

>>3660127
because I'm not a newfag unlike most holoniggers here, it's ok to hate coco just because of her reddit meme shit garbage polluting this industry
but that's besides the point, and you still haven't answered the question, do you really think chinese will cancel her over that instagram post? really? you think that will happen? you think they give a shit? or are you just here to circlejerk and cry about china?
>>3660151
she could've not pissed them off, coulda woulda shoulda, don't really matter

>>3660114
Did they even like Coco at one point? I don't remember her even doing a Bilibili stream.

>>3660111
Technically, it's not wrong to do this, because they did exactly what Coco did. If you really didn't care you'd be able to see that technically any chuuba mentioning Taiwan can easily be put in the same category as coco. Those other chuubas are involved in the discussion. If you don't want to be apart of that discussion why do you even post? If it's just to say that they don't belong in the discussion then that stance is obviously wrong, because they do. If you don't want to take part in all the discussion maybe the thread should just report you for trolling or trying to derail the thread. You aren't in the right technically on this one.

>>3659607
>what the fuck is this shit? not even YOU belive this trash
That's literally what they were saying. They hated that she was grabbing more attention from the west than Bilibili was generating because they didn't want to happen what ended up happening: Holo cutting its ties with China
It's the same thing as Holofags getting pissy at Nijiniggers, two groups of extreme tribalists trying to tear each one down.
>fucking yellow dog eaters
Ironic coming from chang.

>>3660179
You could have thrown yourself head first into a sinkhole today, but you didn't, cause you needed your social credit score bump for "owning the holoniggers", you ugly fucking mooncricket.

>>3659313
Except those "signals" are just excuses to cancel the whole agency. No one want to make zhang angry in the first place

>>3660178
see you're deflecting the point again, what does that have to do with claire's instagram post
>>3660198
technically, they're fucking retarded, and so are you
technically I am in the right, you're retards who have no clue what you're talking about
>hurrrudrruuiuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuur but chinese should cancel them because I said so
they won't, so, go fuck yourself

>>3658811
This sounds like a retarded rrat to me. Didn't Coco do the stream she said Taiwan before haachama vod got put on billibilli? Then the next day her vod got put on billibilli. In this case, regardless, the fault lies purely for thinking everything has to revolve around them. Coco was perfectly in the right to tell retards being retards to fuck off

>>3660250
>Spends the whole thread getting called out for deflecting only to turn around and try to act like he's the one trying to keep things on topic
Your gaslighting isn't working, Zhang.

>>3660237
still didn't answer the question, you think anything's gonna happen or you just wanna wallow in self pity?
>>3660266
it was multistreamed, there's no vods, you're making random shit up
>>3660280
not answering again, I'll take that as you admitting that this whole thread is pointless, you don't expect the chinese to say anything, you just want to wallow and bitch

this thread is disgusting with all the zhang apologia

>>3659681
True lol. See that zhang start to make it personal

>>3660179
>chinese will cancel her over that instagram post?
This isn't actually out of the realm for the chinese people. Some years ago a Taiwanese pop idol posted a picture of her flag next to the chinese flag on facebook. A high ranking official actually made an official call to action on facebook to cancel her. She had to make an apology and everything. The only reason I know about this is because Artia mentions this on a Bilibili stream, saying how "Proud" she felt for policing "One China Policy"... It was a very Extremistist Take.

>>3660179
>every holofans is a newfag
> I am an old fag and this somehow give me in-depth knowledge on the mindset of the chink, not a chink by the way.
And about your Instagram question, my answer would be yes if coco was the one who did it. Why? because they just hate her, there are not logical deep hidden excuse that only you know about because once again they and you are mentally ill. If you hate on a person, any stupid reason even if it happen 20 years ago is enough for you to chink out.

>>3659502
>you think chinese will cancel someone over a 2 years instagram post? really?
Are you actually going to say that? The chinese invented fucking cancel culture and would absolutely cancel people for a 50 year old tweet. Don't try pretending otherwise as we all know thats what they do.

>>3660327
that's not the same situation again
>>3660339
>every holofans is a newfag
*every holofag is a newfag
but yes
so what's the point of the thread, you know that they'll only jump at someone if they hate her already, stupid shit
>>3660351
>The chinese invented fucking cancel culture
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
I dunno about that, pretty sure cancel culture existed in america before chinese even had internet, let's not forget how american christians wanted to cancel dnd, rock music and video games

>>3657950
Easily explained:
>Chinese Holofaggots thought that they were losing their pandering to the EN speakers, even before the Taiwan-China controversy
>All because of the Holo clips and memes, specially Fubuki and later Miko, also Coco with her western sense of humor even if cringy.
>They had no target to blame for this other than Coco because the other members all did BiliBili shit
>The only Holo who for some reason had no BiliBili account or didn't stream or pandered to the Chinese was dragon
>Because she didn't need to, she had found her audience
>So when Haato, a Holo with a fairly OK audience, said the T-Word in a collab with Coco, of course they fully blamed the westerner for it
>No shit, Coco's American or at least half-american
>Red blooded Zhangs can't stand that shit because of the party drilling in their heads the burguers are truly evil or something
>Brainwashing far worse than what the American political system does to a Motherfucker
>They go full circle and start attacking the entirety of COVER corp, also harassing the girls, even doxxing some
>Mostly Coco because "Evil American"
>They go as far as to reach Lyger levels of autism and code spam bots/scripts to fuck with their chat in an effort to demoralize the girls and disrupt their operation
>They also report all of this situation to the CCP so they clap down on COVERs Chinese assets.
>All of the EOPs and Anons either start mass reporting face reveals/montages with Coco in disgusting or sexual stuff or trying to doxx retard Zhangs because they are fucking their Oshi's morale
>Mixed results
>HoloEN completely misses the bullet because too new for any digging of archives for drama
>The most based chinkspeaking anons report doxxing Zhangs to the CCP directly
>CCP claps down on several of them, specifically doxxers and hate commenters because this is bad press if it gets worse
>Zhangs slowly lose interest because of fear of getting sent to Brazil by their overlord Xi.
>Already reached a Taiwanese government meeting about Chinese presence on the internet/media
>Some serious concern about this killing COVER entirely in the long run because of need for Zhang bucks
>COVER pulls out of China, as far as killing their CH branch entirely
>The CH girls inmediately backstab each other or lose their collective shit or dissapear.
>Saviourfag EOPs start watching/buying even more Holo content and throwing bucks/joining memberships, then they stay because they find it fun or cute
>EN turns out to be a far better decision than CH.
>2021
>More concern about China worldwide
>You are now here,
>You either dislike ccp bots for being idiots or don't want anything to do with this /pol/ worthy BS.
>It will get worse but let us just let it happen and then see what to do.
Is this based enough for you anons?

>>3660179
>she could've not pissed them off, coulda woulda shoulda, don't really matter
I think it does matter to find who the aggressor is when something like this happened, and it's clearly the antis.

>>3660463
I don't think it matters, but whatever

>>3659958
>pandering to westerners, american shit
Oh no, she committed the horrible of
*checks notes*
Making content that doesn't exclusively suck chinese cock. Literally didn't sow anything, she did nothing wrong. The chinese completly in the wrong here for having such a massive ego they think people should only make content they like.

>>3659502
>you think chinese will cancel someone over a 2 years instagram post? really
Didn't they cancelled Chloe Zhao (Chinese director who won an Oscar) because of one line from the interview that happened in 2013??
Are you Zhang serious? At least be consistent in your narrative.

>>3660008
Jealousy probably the main trait of chinese

https://pastebin.com/i6Q868R6
Here's the evidence if anyone wants to know what exactly CN Talents and the antis were doing... Unlike the other guy I won't just default into calling everyone a Newfag
>>3660401
But it is... They went after that taiwanese pop idol on the grounds of thinking her posting that was a political provocation that China and Taiwan were separate. That is exactly what what the antis were doing to Coco. They were going after coco on the grounds of thinking her saying Taiwan was political provocation that China and Taiwan were separate. So, no... You can't just say they aren't the "same situation" when they have the same set-up and launch.

>>3660494
For them that's a virtue, along with backstabbing.

>>3660462
based, thanks

>>3660462
Based Chinese for making Hololive popular in western

>>3660487
ok
>>3660490
oh no not the poor hollywood shit film maker
>>3660512
whatever literally nothing changed since this post >>3658187
keep seething, keep sperging holoniggers, I'm off to sleep

>>3660179
How is coco meant to know that making content that doesn't cater to "chinese taste" would make them so mad they attempt to nuke hololive? You are, quite literally, implying everyone should assume all chinese are mentally ill drones with the emotional capacity of a child who will throw a tantrum at the smallest slight.

They certainly know not to treat chinese like people now but they didn't know before

>>3660582
>whatever literally nothing changed since this post
Nothing changed because you didn't want to engage any of my comments. Good night Anon.

>>3660462
Thanks anon already more helpful then the other guy

>>3660569
The bugmen were even the reason why youtube finally fixed their chat spam problem.

>bug

>>3660606
>how is coco supposed to know that she should be careful around their primary target
idk, by not being retarded, or talking to the management, but whatever, hololive only exists because of china anyways, but you can keep denying that if you want
>>3660615
not here to engage or argue, explained something, didn't ask you to challenge it

>>3658187
>DON'T CARE CHINA BAD ZHANG
>BUG INSECT
This but unironically.

>>3660582
> I'm off to sleep
anon nooo you will lose social credit score

>>3660658
oh no, anyways, stay mad holoniggers, g'night

>>3660655
But you explained wrong.

>>3659725
>pigeons should be purple
>but they aren't
I mean they're not ENTIRELY purple, but you probably should've picked a better example for your nonsensical analogy.

>>3660401
Nice deflection. You didn't deny that they would do it. Modern cancel culture is its own thing and ccp chinese are fundamentally the creators of it and exist at the forefront of it. You cannot deny the notion that chinese are the biggest babies who will cancel anything and everything for the smallest slight

>defends for a whole thread the zhang desicions with 'it's just like it is and you know nothing about this totally complex subject'
>says coco deserves in a way or another everytime she is brought
>I don't care I swear
everytime

>>3660582
Anon don't do it the you need to do this for another two hours or your social credit will drop

>>3660655
>Hololive only exists thanks to China
Wew lad, that's a fucking whopper.

>>3660655
>hololive only exists because of china anyways, but you can keep denying that if you want
now you are not even trying

>>3660655
>Hololive only exists because of China
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>3660691
You demand logic and common sense from someone completely devoid of it, anon you should know better, but it's really amusing to see how their head operates, they're truly a mindless drones.

>>3660655
>Hololive only exists thanks to China

>>3660747
Mind you, he even claimed to not be a chink.

>>3657985
Kill yourself Chink. You just prove niji fans here or those pretending to be are Chink insects

>>3660655
>by not being retard
Again, you are saying every single non-chinese should assume that chinks are not people. Likewise, how do you know she didn't ask her manager? Or that her manager would assume they would react in that way? No matter how we look at this, coco isn't at fault.

>hololive only exists because of china anyways,
Now THIS is some insane bug headcanon. Chinese really need their ego smacked.

>>3660747
Ah, the entitlement of stupid bugs never cease to amuse me. Didn’t they on B2 tried to force cover for special treatment and ability to have direct contact with the girls or some stupid shit? Hololive moment’s retardation was also my favorite when they proclaim that Hololive is beneath them despite having been parasiting. The mental gymnastics and sheer idiocy is frankly hilarious.
I wouldn’t be surprise of Cover had stayed any longer they would’ve started asking them to hand the girls over to the Chinese themselves.

>>3658541
c-china strong! b-but WW2! Japanese are evil! that's why it should only be us who suck up their culture like the leaches we are. shut the fuck up and cope harder, chink.

>>3660691
According to him Coco committed the grave mistake of pandering to the western audience instead of people who never gave a shit about her.

>>3660747
>>3660781
>>3660788
I mean, he's a Zhang and that's a funny stretch but he's not wrong, the early Holo only survived because of the Zhangs.
>>3660655
then again:
>Hololive nealy stopped existing because of China
ZHANG!!! ,Your people have lost all of your rights to claim any ownership over the Holos after what your collective of retards did to all of them, it's over, go back to your mainland net and throw zhangbucks to one of your own exclusive chuubas, leave the Holos alone because they are going worlwide thanks to the EN speakers.
None of your arguments hold up anymore, it´s over.

>>3660854
Yeah at one point the insects wanted to be able to email and voice call with the girls personally whenever thet were off-stream, for some fucking reason.

>>3658014
the flag emoji unironically gets censored on chinese devices

>>3660888
>that's a funny stretch but he's not wrong
Except he is, you've been making good points so far so where did this bullshit suddenly come from?

Fushimi Gaku streamed Detention recently, but I wonder if any corporate streamer (Nijisanji and Hololive) could play Devotion and not have a horde of bugs lash out. I was hoping Korone would play it since she loved Detention

Ok that guy is definitely someone from hololive moments or artia's discord group.

>>3660931
Some of the numberfag info which got collected long ago about how more than half the income of some girls used to be from the zhangs, then again, that didn't age well.

>>3660854
They were already demanding Aqua to be let go so she can stream for them exclusively

>>3660888
He probably means how Holo survived a while thanks to bilibili before it became popular overseas or at the very least he would have used that as what he meant if he hadn't left to sleep.
It's his wording what is purposely there to bait people.

>>3660987
Well, they have Kagura Mea. It’ll only be a matter of time before they try to get her to coming into Bugland and fuck her, both figuratively and literally.

>>3660971
>>3660994
That doesn't mean they survived thanks to chinks, only that they paid for a decent portion of the bills that may not have been needed to run. Unless they got popular in the west of japan because of chinks what he said is completely wrong.

>>3660971
Those were raw numbers, that only look good on paper, bilibili tax is 50%, then CCP one, and lastly cover, chuba got literally peanuts.

>>3661057
Granted still stuff like the Azur Lane collab actually put Hololive on the map back then when they had a tiny portion of the JP audience slice.

>>3660931
Different anon, but they did contribute to hololive by translating (hololive moments) and holos do have decent sc on bilibili in 2019. I won't say to the extent of hololive existing solely because of china though. I feel holos getting popular is inevitable just a matter of time.

>>3660994
>>3661057
>>3661069
>then again, that didn't age well.

>>3661069
>lastly cover, chuba got literally peanuts.
Assuming they were even allowed to take the money put and not instead have to reinvest it into whatever shady shit was put in when Cover signed with them.

>>3658014
Ching ching ping-pong peng.

So now zhang is asleep does anyone have an actual answer?

>>3660987
That's pretty creepy, I don't know why they expected Aqua to abandon her friends and Japanese audience just to stream for the Chinese.

China did not help with money as much as people say. What the Chinese fanbase did was help with exposure for the the west by making Clips. Remember fellas the biggest Clip Channel used to be Hololive moments. Right once even the small EN audience started showing up around the debut of Gen 4, the Western audience started to mog Bilibili in terms of money because of Higher amounts and bigger donations. Also because of Bilibili's split is worse. Plus, you also have to mention that there were only a few holos who were actually raking in "bank" on bilibili. Right once the small audience came in, they were getting much more money on superchats then bilibili ever did. So don't believe the "China kept Hololive Alive" Rrat. China's help was with Exposure and that's it.

>>3661164
He did say the actual answer, they hated her already cause she was American Dragon and pandered to the west and not them. So the Taiwan incident was the perfect opportunity for them to start a hate brigade veiled under nationalism.

>>3661169
It was the common belief among the Chinese fanbase that everyone in Hololive JP thought of each other as just coworkers and that their ultimate goal is money for themselves regardless of anything else. They made up a shit ton of narratives based on this like that infamous Sora and FBK dunk on Coco one.
It absolutely blew their mind that Fubuki would choose Coco over them.
And you can really tell that the zhangs/zhangposters are kids because they're not active here when it's class time in China/SEA.

>>3661164
The chinese didn't like american women or that hololive might have been catering to non-chinese audiences. Literally just that, they don't like americans and them not looking only at china. Its the problem you have with touching china audience in general. It's not something you can half arse which all these companies end up learning. You either go balls deep into china and become china only or the chinks or the government will have a tantrum and try to force you out.

>>3661273
I think he want answer to op question.

>>3661234
I don't think hololive moments was that important. I and a lot of people I know didn't know it existed until the china shit. At best, the channel hastened their popularity but aren't the cause of it.

>>3661234
To add to this, holos sc on bilibili in 2029 was decent but it started to nosedive in 2020 because bilibili audience started to complain about the lack of limited bilibili streams.

>>3661234
They paved their way to destruction themselves
>>3661288
>everyone in Hololive JP thought of each other as just coworkers and that their ultimate goal is money for themselves regardless of anything else
So they see Hololive just like typical Chinese stream scene

>>3661322
Because that Niji girl isn't American?

>>3661164
>>>> >>3659651
Here's my answer anon.

>>3661322
to answer, the Zhang spurgout was a lot more that JUST Taiwan. with her, when she eventually pisses off the chinks, they'll thow this back at her, but it isn't time for another gooberment funded shitfit.

>>3661359
Timetravelerchama?

>>3661164
They didn't cancel her because she is already balls deep in chink platform, exclusive streams etc. That's it, don't expect logical explanation.

>>3661288
So they rrated themselves into believing all interactions between the girls were fake? Do the chinese not interact with people? Anyone can see that they clearly interact on a level near or close to friends. Mere co-workers don't get along the way most of the girls do.

>>3661409
Kek i meant 2019.

>>3661424
only interactions zhangs have are with real estate agents and with government guys telling you your cousin never existed.

>>3661164
Someone here already answered, it was never really about Taiwan (other holos have mentioned it on stream before with nothing happening) but more of their anger at being left behind for an increasingly profitable and supportive EN audience. Before this there were a lot of smaller incidents related to this like the Pekora one where they tried to make her promise to stream on bilibili more. When they got a chance at Coco, an actual American, they went for it, with bilibili's support who at the time removed all videos or mentions of what Coco actually said.

>>3659769
I'm not the anon you had been talking to. I was just pointing out how obvious it is that you are Chinese.

>>3661424
Anon... compassion, friendship and morality is frowned in Chinese society, so they didn't deluded themselves, they firmly believed that.

>>3661288
LMAO

The zhangs got cucked pretty hard.

>>3661358
Hololive Moments were the highest Subbed Clipper Channel, they were an entire group dropping multiple clips daily. It was honestly pretty wild when they were around. I did have a lot of respect for them. I'm still glad that they were around, but as this guy said >>3661359 they were their own downfall. They somehow had the big brained take to go ahead and side against Coco, even advocating for her firing. They sadly weren't
for the talents. It is what it is though. I'm glad they're gone.

>>3661424
I want to say with experience that Chinese operate on the mentality of money over everything else. To them, the idea of “friends” is not a real concept but instead more of someone that can be used and tossed if needed. If you ever meet a real mainland ching, you best watch closely your side because if its not your wallet, they’ll be after something else and never fall for any of their sweet talk no matter what. Else you’ll find more than just a knife in your back.

>>3661424
>Be Chinese
>Assume all rrats are true
THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF ZHANGS

>>3661234
In the end, it feels like zhang being ntr'd by burger

>>3661424
Basically yes, they thought that all the girls would dump Coco like a hot potato once she became a threat to their profits. So Fubuki, the highest earner in bilibili, openly supporting Coco was something incomprehensible to them. They absolutely lost their minds and spammed her twitter. The official fangroup on bili who handled her channel kept trying to talk to her and threatened to delete her channel, but Fubuki completely ignored them. She was even deleting their replies to her.
Their narrative changed to the company forcing everyone to befriend Coco or get fired (like that infamous cope manga about Aqua), so they tried to isolate Coco and tank her SC profits so she wouldn't be as valuable to the company. This didn't work because tatsunokos are insane and Coco still talks to everyone behind the scenes even if she wasn't collabing. But that changed too, Coco even has a higher collab frequency now compared to 2020.

>>3657950
You don't get it, the taiwan controversy was inorganic and was allowed to get out of control by Bilibili, nijisanji can't get in problem because their investors are chinese, it's different in the case of hololive, they were getting really popular in china but they money wasn't going to chinese people but to a japanese company owned by japaneses.

Bilibili was basically extorting cover to sell shares to the chinese.

>>3661771
yet the EN manager niggers won't let her collab with them. y'know, the fluent english speaker, the fucking American. EN would be fucking gigantic if it wasn't for those whores.

>>3661922
Hopefully, with the reduction of spam in Coco's chat we can start seriously hoping for the collabs many people wanted. You gotta remember, any of the chats will sperg out in anti Chinese hate because everyone in those streas are a bunch of newfags that can't actually follow stream rules. If such a high profiled event happened and it got on twitter, you know just as much as I do they everyone will blame our talents for someone else's fuck up. It would be exactly like how that one anon was trying to justify the Anti hate. Throw out context, while also looking into a vaccum. It's not fair, but it is what it is.

>>3661531
>>3661543
The more I hear about mainlanders the more I wish the country just gets nuked off the planet. How do you manage to make such a fucking awful country filled with such disgusting people.

https://www.reddit.com/r/VtuberV8/comments/nb9gon/%E6%AD%B7%E5%8F%B2%E5%9B%9E%E9%A1%A72020%E5%B9%B4holoytb%E7%AB%99%E6%9B%B2%E7%B7%9A%E6%9C%AA%E5%AE%8C%E6%88%90/

Sc statistics by taiwanese bros for reference.

>>3662032
Its what happen when you operate on the pride that your country has exist for thousands of years, to the point that pride is the only thing you have left even as everything burns to ashes. The chinese have been oppressed for thousands of years. Even Xi is just another small blip in the large scale of history of tyrants that basically trampled down the people. Look at the Chinese history and you’ll see. The list of fucked up Emperors are endless.
Put that with the fact that despite the pride, China has always been losing in everything whether kt be technology, war or just culture in general. This makes them desperate for anything they can have to fill that pride, and just as easily manipulated. Those people literally think they’re the cneter of the world and won’t care if everyone else outside die. Its that bad.

>>3662032
Mongolians are cool.

Overall sc stats for 2020 until the taiwan happening, you need to factor in bilibili cut, china tax and cover cut (there was bilibili tl group leader who said holos only get 8-10% sc after cut in 2019).

>>3658093
Fucking retard. China is not in YouTube Analytics because it isn't a country. Go back to school and learn your fucking geography

>>3662032
A long line of fucked up rulers, be them emperors, be them foreigners and now communists or at least socialists with clearly sociopathic tendencies that will do everything in their power to not let the country break and thus lose power, the amount of times this shit has happened to them is nearly comical if not tragic, I hope their country will eventually break and the burguers, be them white or black or whatever assume a certain level of power there and try to ATLEAST bring democracy once and for all, seriously, if it worked half-way with Japan I don't see how a more rigid and fairly stern approach to that system wouldn't work in the modern China were the mainlanders will blindly obey whoever assumes power under the threat of punishment, and we know the system DOES WORK with them, no genetic BS impediment or other more complicated stuff, how do we know this?, One word:
>Taiwan.
The only place the CCP seethes like a mad cow 24/7 just because it shows them how poorly thought and managed their ideology is and basically shows them how much of a fairly better society they could be were they not actual retards who think in big numbers instead of just economics and engineering instead of how to actually built a cohesive society that doesn't need permanent monitoring to maintain somewhat united.

>>3661322
>>3657950
>>3661164
>OP's question
That's easy, Claire isn't remotely as big and isn't remotely as offensive. Trying to attack Claire would be like trying to attack an actual nun for "slighting" you, you would just look like a schizo because it's not like any of her content is actively inflammatory. She's the least offensive person in Niji. There's no way to attack the person whose voice never raises above barely-whisper and not look unhinged.

Coco is different in almost every way to Claire streaming-wise. Coco is actively not the same as Claire in her mannerisms and thus can be picked apart with cherry picking for outrage points, which they did. That's the only reason it spiraled out of control so fast is because of all the out-of-context yabs they could pull from her streams.

>>3659313
she had nothing to be remorseful for, as she didn't target or harm anyone. see this is where cucks like you fall flat in your shitposts.

>>3659313
She didn't antagonize anyone, and if she did, antagonizing bugs is based as fuck and I support it.

>>3659835
you haven't explained anything. you've repeated yourself over and over that
>YOU JUST DON'T UNNAHSTAAAAAAAAHND
and when asked what we don't understand you just do
>anyone I don't like is black
and
>hurr spergs
and various "no look over there, see you don't get it!" variations. everything's a strawman if you're not saying it, but you're not actually saying anything.

>>3660179
>she could've not pissed them off
since your argument is that she pissed them off by... existing. you're saying she should just have become An Hero instead of getting a job with hololive...? so basically... you have no argument. she didn't do anything directed at them. it is not the responsibility of the world to tiptoe around eggshells to avoid bruising any one country's fragile hypernationalistic psyche.
>>>/trash/

>>3658187
Fuck off chink Taiwan is country and while I'm at it free Hong Kong

Nanking didn't happen, but it should have.

>>3666403
Throw in a free Tibet while you're at it. They think we forgot about that one.

>>3657982
This right here is really the only true answer.

>>3666466
Shit your right and free tibet

>>3666403
>>3666466
I love that even China knows how fucked they are if they're to ever get into any sort of war or if they ever even lose a bit of power which is why they keep doubling down on all this totalitarian shit. They're literally surrounded by people who hate them from North to south to east and fucking west it's almost Israel levels of irony.

>>3661424
to be completely fair, even when it's not chang raid time /vt/ has whackjobs that really do believe that literally everything out of any chuuba's mouth is kayfabe. that level of derangement is depressingly not restricted to the hive.

>>3662884
the ccp seethes like a mad cow about taiwan because it's where the legitimate chinese government went. they'll never get over the fact that all their bullshit and "UR MOTHER'S DEAD!" taunts and shit never broke the ROC.

this thread is too funny. the butthurt retard mod banned me for "trolling" last week cause i said how bilibili and china doesn't give a shit about hololive and it's forgotten.

this entire thread spammed with off-topic racism and stuff pulled directly from /pol/ is totally okay though? somebodies ass is really sore from the dicking china has given them

china and bilibili lives in your head rent free and you can't stop seething about it.

>>3666679
stop shitposting with my oshi, zhang.

Look. Everyone in this threads needs to be more like the seeds of a pomegranate.

>3666679
Back again for another round then? Let see if you'll go even longer. Also, VPN dumbass. If the ching chongs can do it every time they get meido then can you

>>3666679
They sure showed us how little they care with a full 6 months of spamming and spending money to get memberships to try and spam. The only time I think about China is how all your women are leaving to be with white men and your boys have grown to be spoiled lady boys that gives Thailand a run for it's money. The one child policy really helped out huh?

>3666679
Oh look, an artiacord come here with the worst falseflag in weeks, pretty sure is the same guy that make kiara hate thread daily

>>3657985
nice bait

g'morning holoniggers, have you decided on your narrative yet? either I'm not chinese and I don't know what they're thinking or I'm chinese and then you can't question what I say, you can't just flip flop between the two every sentence

Kill yourself shitposter

>>3671685
you mean the op? yeah he's a retarded shitposter

>>3666152
yes I did
>>3666290
I support that plan, also she could've just not multistreamed to bilibili

>>3660747
>>3660781
>>3660788
>>3660802
that's just facts though, for years holos were struggling to get 1k viewers and only lived on china bucks, then only got reddit relevance with the azur lane collab

>>3660680
nah
>>3661477
and what's the point of that, would being chinese discredit or reinforce my point, you holoniggers can't even decide on that

Is this a chink bait thread? Cool, Nanking was not enough.

>>3657985

>>3671873
you mean when the japanese killed the nationalist chinese (who retrated to taiwan) allowing the ccp to take over the mainland? not sure if that's the banter you wnat to bring on, mao even thanked the japanese for it

>>3671880
reddit

Holy fuck imagine being this much of a pathetic shitposter that you wake up just so you can reply to a dozen people with multiple posts with your shitty shitposting. Almost feel sorry for him being this desperate for attention

>>3671933
and you bumped a thread from page 10, if you want to talk then let's talk

>>3671899
>zhang this upset
ngmi

>>3671965
so have you made up your mind on your narrative yet or what, if you say that I'm chinese then you can't question anything I say here

>>3671950
I have sage on all my posts

>>3671994
your a dick sucking nigger. that's all I need to know.

>>3672082
evidently not since you bumped the thread when it was on page 10, I don't mind, if you want to talk then let's talk, just don't whine people start talking then

>>3672102
you know you're not any different from the chinese spammers who sperg out in blind hate, you just sperg out in blind hate too and refuse to listen to anything

>>3671888
>chink thanking Japs for killing chink.
Uhh, based?

>>3658024
>holos just identified it as being independent of China.
Neither Haato or Coco said this. Youtubes anylitics were the ones who used taiwans flag in their analytics.

>>3672134
nanjing was the capital of the nationalist chinese (now taiwan), you can look at the flags here on the chinese side
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Nanking
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Wuhan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Chongqing
looks a lot like the taiwanese flag doesn't it, because it is, the chinese communist were in the mountains and the countryside while the japanese destroyed the capital of their enemies 3 times in a row
you know the funny part is that obviously in ww2 japan was fighting americans, and the nationalist chinese were supported by the americans, it was more of a threeway fight than just chinese vs japanese, it was chinese communists (sometimes helped by soviets) vs chinese nationalists (supported by americans) vs japanese, and now japan is the "ally" (vassal) of america so they're "allied" to taiwan, the entity that they basically destroyed

>>3672163
it displayed taiwan next to a list of countries, implying that taiwan is independent, but youtube analytics include other region flags that aren't independent countries as well so you know at the end of the day that doesn't really matter either, the situation is still that they just hated coco and this was an opportunity for them to go off on her, obviously if the chinese like you in general you have a lot more leeway to make mistakes like that without incurring their anger