/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>3691657
first for based fina

Sneedpuff (Formerly Rainchuck)

>debuts all at the same time
???

>>3691657
>she wants your seed

>>3691657

such a cute design wasted on a western personality

LE FISHE

wow english fans are vocal about the new vtubers and they are not happy. Theyre discontented with the way everyone makes jokes like vshojo and the whole monging. I guess they were holding out hope for good vtubers. There's even a petition that's garnered thousands of signatures to have the vtubers graduated. Obviously that wont happen but it shows how unhappy they are.

>>3691756
25 minutes each, anon...
Though I must say it's pretty short..

>>3691756
They're 25 minutes apart

BIG

If Finana is as controversial as people make her out to be, her debut should be in the middle, between the fairy and dragon. Being last may make people more inclined to tune her out.

So it's official, will we have a general to discuss just 3 girls?

>>3691910
Look at the board. There are generals to discuss one girl.

FINANA IS AN UNIRONIC RACIST OH NO NO NO MERBRAPS?

If anyone needs proof:

This is her Tumblr (you can see the links to her doxxed instagram and her icon is the same as in her doxxed Deviantart):
https://yandere-doujinshi.tumblr.com/post/90215826930/kaylathekitty-lileilee-lol-what-did-i
Which links to her OTHER Tumblr:
https://kaylathekitty.tumblr.com/post/51401139597/ask-me-a-question
Which links to her ask.fm, which has this:
https://ask.fm/KaylaCha/answers/55059856637

WHAT NOW MERBRAPS?

>>3691910
Solo generals exist anon, is this any worse?
And knowing 2434 they'll be at least 3 more within a month anyway, maybe more.

>>3691910
There's dozens of generals on this board for just 1 girl, and it seems unlikely it'll be just 3 for long

POMU!

Can't say if I'll watch any of them very often after their debut since I already have too many vtubers to keep up with, but I wish all of them the best tomorrow. Who knows, maybe one of them can break the glass ceiling and become a mega star.

>>3691937

wtf I love her more now

>>3691937
I don't care about things from like 8 years ago but
>autoplay
fucking disgusting, graduation when

>>3691937
proof that the racists are taking over the vtubing sphere. We must graduate her to show everyone that RACISM ISN'T WELCOME HERE!

>>3691910
>>3691950
is it okay to discuss other nijis or is it only limited to collabs in the future? i'm not in the mood to lurk in jp threads

>>3691848
Short is good. I don't know why people want longer debuts, it puts too much stress on them as they desperately try to fill dead air.

>>3691848
>>3691861
After watching ban hada's debut I really enjoyed the shorter debut style that some of them do. It cuts out any dead air and makes rewatching it more enjoyable.

>25 minutes of debut

but why

this thread glows... I can feel it...

This makes me happy

>>3692138
OH MY GOD, we really need to request ikenai borderline

>>3692061
Well nobody's going to ban you for talking about other branches and some discussion is fine, but I think it's best to keep this primarily as an EN thread rather than splitting JP discussion between the main Niji thread and a Niji global. The JP and ID threads on /vt/ are friendly to newfriends as long as you don't post retarded shit.

>>3692061
It's either that or everyone agreeing to let the thread die when nobody is streaming. Naturally that means the first option is the only factible option.

>>3692133
this>>3692126
its unironically better, extended debuts can be... well they might turn out to be a shitshow

>>3692133
Apparently that's normal for Niji (I'm mostly a clipfag and haven't watched any debuts for them, shameful I know) so we'll see how it goes.
Probably should've at least separated them enough to leave some time in case of technical difficulties and also not scheduled it at the same time as the sitewide EN chuuba debuff reddit stream but too late now!

Oh hey what do you know, they actually do have Youtube Ads

>>3692123
>>3692126
I usually watched NijiID debuts where its 45 mins each.
They fill the rest of the time with answering maros, some of them are generic questions but nonetheless, it's still an interaction to fans.

>>3692271
the only person I know who has had a long debut in nijisanji was kanae where he decided to play apex and he ended up going for hours.

>>3692251
There are threads on this board that last for over 2 weeks, I really doubt there'll be so little interest in EN that they can't keep a thread afloat on their own

>>3692286
Now THIS is what I call targeted advertising, it didn't seem at first but Niji has been going all out on advertising this week.

>>3692336
now that's a fucking debut. do it, nijiEN. none of you have the guts.

I want to give Pomu my big seed!

>>3692372
In fairness, they didn't do much to build up hype before. They really should've been more teases on social media saying "We all know you guys have been asking for NijiEN, and we can't wait to reveal more information in the month of ____!"

>>3692251
Or you can bump the thread every so often with fanart or something if you want to keep it alive like the other dozens of slow threads when their chuuba isn't streaming

>>3692271
Debut streams used to last an hour, and as a custom the other members wouldn't stream during the 3 or so hours it took for the new members to debut. Then sometime in 2019 Niji decided it was a better idea to shorten the debut streams duration to 40 min, so the other 60 members didn't lose 3 hours of their day not streaming. Maybe now they think 25 min is a reasonable time frame for a debut.
>>3692336
>kanae debut
>apex
PUBG. It was 2018, man.

>>3692336
It was 9 hours of PUBG.

>>3691657
Her design is just a rip off of pic related isn't it?

>>3691657

What does big seed mean?

>>3692816
Dead game

>>3692138
Guess there's no reason to hide it if she was outed almost immediately anyway.

>>3692639
Honestly I can only think it's better to have a short debut stream to help control the nerves the first time. That has to be a ton of pressure debuting as a new persona, even with previous experience.

>no holobros shitposting
I'm glad, I hope it goes well for these three

I love Pomu!

>>3692639
>>3692673
My bad, my bad. I forgot that apex wasn't really a thing when he came out.

>>3692866
Don't worry it'll pick up again by the debut

I think pomu's design is unironically really good the black gloves, the black tights on the neck and green/white dress combo makes me diamonds, also being a fairy and not just another elf is another plus.

So what do you guys think are their real sub numbers, without YouTube shitting things up? Must be close to 20k i reckon.

Also those expecting huge numbers for their debut (even without considering what they are up against) should probably have lower expectations, I'll be surprised if any of them gets 10k individually, the collab stream maybe, but dunno.

>>3692866
Don't get used to it

>>3692866
I hope your smile lasts a week after their debut. It can't be worse than the first HoloEN threads, that's for sure.

>>3692996
this i agree. don't expect too much because they're pretty much late comers, but always support whenever you can.

>>3692286
Surprising and yet not at the same time. Now that I think about it, I've seen ads for other vtubers when I'm not blocking ads.

>>3692996
Yeah, their sub numbers are probably the same more or less as Finana because her subs doesn't get affected that much.
I also don't expect much view numbers on debut but I hope after that they will incline as they streams and make contents.

>>3691848
>>3691861
>>3692126
They will probadly stream afterward to ride the hype train.

>>3693465
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC6yl3CyePA
>Hana Macchia and Bonnivier Pranaja from NIJISANJI ID will host the show as the MCs, and will be joined by the three members of "LazuLight'' after the relay of their individual debut live streams on their respective YouTube channels. Together, they will watch part of the debut song music video during the debut special streaming program.

>>3693555
after that

Can they make it?

>>3693590
If Nabi already has over 200k subs why wouldn't they?

>>3693590
If artemis can, why can't they?

>>3693590

would be nice, but who really cares? manami just had her 3D debut yesterday and she is at 150k

>>3693679
They definitely are going to be able to keep viewers longer than Artemis, who doesn't seem to really care about entertaining people.

I hope they would have dedicated clip channels, like tengoku is to holo. They need some extended exposure.

>>3691657
Hot sticky seed on Pomf hands, wonder if she likes sunflower seeds

>>3692286
>not using ublock origin, the superior adblock
kek

>>3693590
Dragon gets 300k in a couple of months easily, but right now Susan is trying to sabotage her. She has lot of followers on twitter.

POMAOL

>>3693590
It's not impossible, they just have to produce clipworthy moments.

LazuLight love! Susan hate!

I'm going to personally kill that faggot who's been posting dox on this board.

>>3694071
first time?

>>3694071
Ignore and report, that's literally it.
d
Don't exhaust yourself.

>>3694172
I've seen doxx before, but I'm already gosling for this degenerate and I don't want seisofags to get their way.

I don't really believe in the saying about negative press still being press, but to be honest I've never seen antis legitimately draw people away from their target, and sometimes even the opposite, so I'd say bring them on. As long as they aren't in these threads.

LAZURLANE LOVE

>>3694071

why tho? their desperate attempts are actually making the fish more popular by the second.

Hi. Don't give people free (you)s or else.

>>3694359
You know, those neck details are nice

>>3694359
Why is she so smug

>>3694291
I'm just genuinely worried that some faggot will break containment and start drama.

>>3693877
I am using ublock origin, that icon is for another plugin which whitelists specific youtube channels https://github.com/x0a/uBO-YouTube/

>>3694283
If the evidence isn't too obvious then it only makes saviorfags like her more

>>3694359
I swear If I gosling for this degenerate I'll fucking kill myself

>>3694291
It's true, one of the dox made me go from "Eh, I'll check her out" to actually excited for her.

>>3695176
oh boy, now i'm excited to see what the goslings of this branch would look like

>>3695176
it's too tempting to gosling for her...

>>3695176
truly a fate worse than death

>>3691657
tryhard OP confirms niji EN failure

>>3695249
Seriously. Half this thread is here because of that schizo's advertising.

someone post the dox i wanna see it

>>3695807
Posting links to help anons find brand new chubas is bad somehow?

how are they already dox'd

>>3695176

its too late anon, embrace it.

>>3693590
Half of this board masturbates over numbers but then complains about things that happen because of big numbers. who cares about numbers honestly. quality is always better

>>3695176
Gosling is kind of nice actually. Just remember there's like a 1 in a trillion chance of hooking up with your chuuba, so instead spend your energy on finding someone like her/him.

>>3691848
going by the last few side branch debuts I've seen, they'll probably announce a collab at the end that'll take place an hour or two after

>>3696206
>there's like a 1 in a trillion chance of hooking up with your chuuba
only if you're a loser

>>3693590
Depends on how much the algorithm favors their songs and clips.

>>3692816
it's an archetype

I have seen some Japanese replied to their posts
Would this gather enough niji's Japanese fans?

>>3693590
For reference, the lastest nijiJP girls have 20-30k before debut and 15-25k views in the debut stream

The debut teaser is actually gaining a lot more views now. Guess the ad is working.

>>3696310
We're on 4chan, anon. We're ALL winners. Or else that would make the chuubas that lurk/post here losers.

>>3696505
Only if they talk and reply in Japanese on stream. Hana got Japanese SC during her birthday from old Japanese fans and she occasionally gets marshmallows in Japanese too. a lot of the KR branch has Japanese chatters even when they're speaking Korean or English like Ban Hada. I think it just depends on what they do and if people who are ESL can follow along.

>>3696725
Three girls all know some Japanese so I think they choose girls with japanese skill is some of back up plan if thing doesn't turn out well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yT4Zh41wnpE
To the JP clipfag that lurks here: I like you but please fuck off.

>>3696898
also, please don't make us look bad, we got enough heat from holoposters right now

>>3696505
Pomu had Japanese fans even when she was Mint.
And foreign Nijis who speak Japanese always have the option of becoming honorary JPs. See Bora.

>>3696898
tfw JP and EN holofags act in the exact same way

>>3696898
The reddit english comments apologising for 4chan's existance and the japanese comments are talking about how similar we are to their community is pretty funny.

>>3696898
Other video was better. This one is just shitposts of seething holobronies.

>>3696898
I like how they're translating nijifags as nijifans and Sneed as Simpsons

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMBUpyQVBYM

S M U G

>>3696898
Come on nihonnikki, explain them the sneed meme

>>3697431
holy shit she's so smug

>>3697431
she's laughing at my small penis...

>>3697503
"But what's the joke?"

>>3697431
I hope one day she gets smug paizuri art.

>>3697431
She has the best design and Live2D rig of three

wait, were anons right 3 for 3? nova, mint and, yui?

>>3697431
Dragon a cute, a cute!

>>3697431
>1400 views in 15 minutes
I guess there's nothing to worry about number wise. wonder how many viewers she'll get for debut.

>>3697431
very cute

>>3697815
Bro no, don't spoil the big secret.

>>3697431
Oh my dragoncoin

based on design alone its Fairy > Dragon > Fish for me but I feel like its gonna be completely different when they actually debut.

Metanarrative fags, how did the fish get such a number advantage over the other 2?

>>3698409
Advertising.

>>3698409
Actually having things to post

>>3698409
susan bought in on MERCOIN and sabotaged the competition.

>>3698409
Doing a number 2 turns out is something that Youtube interns like.

>>3697431
I want to slap this smug bitch with my cock

all I want is one of them to play jRPGs like Rena or Sociere do, its all I ask for, also

>Nijis actually have good 3D setups

Hype for 2022

>>3698409
Susan has fart fetish

>>3698623
You'd have to wait til 2024, they probably have to do all the other JP talents on queue for 3d models first before reaching out to the overseas branch.

>>3698623
What are their favourite genres going by their previous lives?

I want to send a marshmallow to Pomu and convince her that she's an elf, but I need some help with the evidence.

For nijisanji elves, there's Elu, Chaika and Gwelu while the only fairy I can think of is Eli. Is there anyone I forgot?
What exactly is Chaika meant to be, male crossdressing elf?

My argument is that female nijisanji elves have wings while nijisanji fairies and male nijisanji elves do not.

>>3697431
>>3696505
seem like she has nip tranlator her post now

Their debut gonna be cringe "uwu anime dub voice" Like holoen back then right?

>>3697545
The sign is a subtle joke...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRRIrcokmzQ

>>3697431
I hope she actually carries this smug energy into her streams and doesn't just forget about it

>>3698887
Chaika is a JK. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZadWZ9u93Jg

TO THE MOON

Hopefully now that they're posting videos youtube stops seeing their subs as bots.

>>3699469
You say this as a joke but if the fish doesn't upload anything this will make perfect sense.

>>3699441
that outfit has a painter feel to it

>>3697431
[BREAKING NEWS]

Mercoin is taking a shit. Dragoncoin buyers smug as fuck.

>>3698988
It is a rite of passage to have shitty debuts.

>>3694704
Interesting, never seen this plugin before. Isn't dynamic rule in uBO should be enough?
For ads that are embedded directly into video I use https://timelens.io and https://sponsor.ajay.app/ to block them.

>>3698887
I sent one to convince her that she's an insect. Not too much difference, right?

>>3699730
>Mercoin is taking a shit.
Thanks, buying the dip right now!

This will be my first time watching Nijis, it'll be sad if I end up really liking one of them, they probably never will interact with HoloEN, blocking us from some kino combos.

>>3697533
That's the mermaid anon

>>3700167
They probably won't, but you can bet that people will spam them asking for collabs anyway. The horror. I can see Amelia getting really pissed at that in particular.

Is it just me, or is Pomf's head rig all misaligned?

>>3700309
>but you can bet that people will spam them asking for collabs anyway
For sure, but I think people will forget the idea after HoloEN 2 debuts.

>>3700335
It looks Risu-tier, yeah. Might be cute in a funny way though.

>>3699730
>Mercoin is taking a shit
Just wait for the splashback fags.

>>3700309
Its sad honestly. If they can't even collab or say Coco's name no way they are going to collab. I don't know why Holo EN is trying to go after the kid audience. Gura can't even swear

>>3700167
HoloEN has problems even interacting with each other sometimes. If they loosen up rules about collabs with each other and JP eventually, it's not beyond reason that they'd be able to collab with other people. It's already good for HoloEN if NijiEN does well enough to make them feel like they have to step up their game a bit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRRIrcokmzQ

CUTE BOUNCY RIBBON

>>3700167
If they get popular fast maybe, Cover used to leeched other popular people until they became topdog and stop collab with outside vtubers unless they are equal in popularity

>>3700335
The nake move is terrible, make her face really flat

>>3693881
why her specifically? Is she one of the vtubers that recently graduated like Finna?

>>3700403
She's like a fusion of Mythra and that girl from Princess Connect.

>>3700484
All of them are vtubers that retired recently. It barely took 5 minutes for people to recognize them after one line.

>>3700403
GIVE THEIR SUBS BACK SUSAN YOUR WHORE

>>3700167
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODs7v8VcvsI

Though you're right that HoloEN is unusually collab shy. Maybe it's a manager thing

>>3691894
>controversial

what makes her controversial?

>>3700903

IT IS a manager thing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XrbXkcpVFs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz5MNHH2XxI

>>3700380
>I don't know why Holo EN is trying to go after the kid audience. Gura can't even swear
Easy numbers, better to get them in while they're young. It is a bit silly though since Hololive probably wasn't intended to be something meant for kids, especially during the 3D streams.

>>3700403
POMU
O
M
U

>>3700403
I think I'll like her.

>>3692286
>ad 1 of 2
>30 seconds each
And they’re wondering why people use adblock.

[Good News] Pomu already has a Japanese gachikoi
https://twitter.com/pomu_0o0?s=21

>>3698931
she is nip

>>3691657
Is the fairy actually fairy sized or an elf larping as a fairy?

>>3702224
https://twitter.com/pomurainpuff/status/1393265838850023426?s=21

It kind of seems like Nijisanji's work towards an EN audience is slowly working to me. I look at their tweets nowadays and it's not all that uncommon to see English replies or translations when 6 months ago it was just japanese only.

>>3701727
She had that magic for her past persona, good to see she hasnt lost her touch.

>>3691657
I FUCKING LOVE THIS FAIRY!

which one of them will be the first to pull a Kiara and drop an N.bomb live on stream?
my bet's on the fish

Maybe they should pin a comment with a link to their channels under the teaser, considering it's blowing up, and some people are too dumb to check the description.

>>3702394
The fish has a history of saying nigger with the hard r so it's definitely not unprecedented

>>3702396
That wouldn't be a bad idea. You really have to go quite far down in the description to find them.

I hope the fairy brings back her comfy animal cam streams

>>3701727
>>3702330
Possibly one of her Japanese fans finding out about her reincarnation?

>>3702876
it's a pretty bad kept secret at this point

>>3702310
there's a pretty fair number of livers that have been trying to make gestures towards overseas viewers too which helps to try and lure them from the shadows
Deron English is cute

>>3703026
YOU ARE DOUBT!

>>3702224
She's larping, here's my evidence that still needs to reviewed by other anons >>3698887

>>3703026
>>3703298

>>3702224
All powerful fairies have size control magic, and she's the strongest.

>>3700167
The only ones I can even think of it happening are Mori and Kiara, Gura is untouchable, Ina is to busy and Ame only wants to collab within Holo(Nabi being an exception)

>>3700167
If there was a sliver of chance that HoloEN could collab with someone outside their company, NijiEN would be the most likely candidate. Cover is very corporate-minded.

Talk about a design downgrade, literally all of these girls had better designs as indies than they do now.

>>3704328
>this is your brain on narratives

>>3704328
We also know that HoloEN are managed much, much more strictly than HoloJP, so expecting them to play by the same rules is pointless conjecture.
That said, Mori very explicitly confirmed that a collab with BGV is 100% happening, and Kiara is doing that German anime convention thing, so it seems some walls are starting to come down at least.

ELIRA!

>>3704562
>We also know that HoloEN are managed much, much more strictly than HoloJP
Ogey

>>3704470
Post the designs.

>>3704470
They're not bad, it's just because you want to hate them

>>3701034
Based manager

>>3692996
that's not how that works, anon. Until they start producing content, any sib they have is effectively worthless.

>>3701034
Coco's a special case because of the China shit. I suspect that block will be lifted sometime soon since Coco mentioned on stream she'd been talking to the ENs.

The main problem with outside collabs has been that those interested in them keep making weird picks like e-celebs(Mori) or Vshoujo(Kiara). Ina managed to collab with Pochi without issue, so I think the main reason they aren't happening is most of the ENs just don't want to.

>>3700167
No idea who the top manager is at HoloEN but he has fucking barbed wire around those girls. Kiara almost collabed with Veibae but that apparently got shafted when she became a part of vshojo. Maybe there's an actual chance they will collab with NijiEN because of no language barrier and with what we've seen of Holo/Niji interaction between the main JP branches.

>>3694267
>seisofags
Anon, doxxfags don't give a fuck about purity. If you have a "secret identity", a doxxfag will do his upmost to let everyone know it. But only if your identity isn't Pavolia Reine, then you get the fuck out before you get BTFOd.

>>3704921
>Kiara almost collabed with Veibae but that apparently got shafted when she became a part of vshojo
You guys need to appreciate this manager, imagine the sperging if that happened. This is definitely gonna be part of what distinguishes NijiEN from HoloEN, way looser collab guidelines.

>>3704958
Doxxfags and seisofags are the same posters. Evident with the whole Nijisanji EN dox spam and them kvetching about how they're degenerates or something.

>>3704921
>Maybe there's an actual chance they will collab with NijiEN
Most people will forget NijiEN once EN2 debuts, Enma herself will probably want to hype up the eventual collabs between EN1 and 2 instead of going for NijiEN.

>>3704958
if Reine is so great why did she feed her cat cheap cat food

>Talk about a design downgrade, literally all of these girls had better designs as indies than they do now.

>>3700380
>I don't know why Holo EN is trying to go after the kid audience. Gura can't even swear
Gura can and does swear, and has explicitly said she isn't "family friendly". I think she just doesn't want to rely on swearing a cheap source of humor, and realizes that swearing less makes it more impactful when she does.

There's a dragon topless armpit fanart

>>3704921
For the record, Holo has been extremely adamant about not colabing with outsiders unless it has an obvious merit aside from a select few members with the ambassador role.
This is how they've grown their brand, by caging their fans within their bubble, and limiting their exposure to other talents that may pose as a competitor.

Considering NijiEN will have nowhere near the amount of popularity as HoloEN, there's no way a colab is happening in the near future unless NijiEN literally goes to the moon. They absolutely do not want their fanbase leaning towards them, or to Vshojo for that matter.

Their strategies have nothing to do with preserving seiso-ness or idol culture or being introverted. If pewdiepie or charlie asked for a colab tomorrow it'll happen in a heartbeat, since their fanbases do not overlap and holo would actually have something to gain. "The girls don't want to go outside uwu" is such a lame and obvious sugar coat to a business decision it's astonishing people even buy it.

when are the males dropping? papa Macchia better be in there and I bet he mogs the entire EN division if he is.

>>3704968
You're right anon

Collabing with literal whos are what made VShoujo big rn, in fact, they might even beat Hololive in 5 years!

>>3705303
Who was talking about Vshoujo?

>>3705030
The size and scale(number-wise) of Holo's EN branch compared nijiEN is very big. I think nijiEN needs to do things on it's own pace rather than compete with HoloEN, it won't look good if the vtubers are doing desperate moves just to grab the "spotlight" from HoloEN.

>>3691657
>25 minutes for each
Dead on arrival

>You're right anon
>Collabing with literal whos are what made VShoujo big rn, in fact, they might even beat Hololive in 5 years!

>>3705273
>If pewdiepie or charlie asked for a colab tomorrow it'll happen in a heartbeat,
Mori literally went through a month of wanting to collab with the charlie guy and not being allowed. Why are you talking out of your ass?

>>3705273
>If pewdiepie or charlie asked for a colab tomorrow it'll happen in a heartbeat
I'm pretty sure they had the opportunity to collab with charlie but management blocked it, he seemed open to it at least https://youtu.be/qzjntvTjpDc?t=106

>>3705444
I don't normally like wojakposters, but you've been doing good work in /vt/.

>>3705273

>This is how they've grown their brand, by caging their fans within their bubble

Hololive literally became known in japan by doing collabs with nijisanji

>>3705528
I said if Charlie asked for it, not the other way around. One is bigger than the other.

>>3705273
So what your saying is Hololive only collabs with bigger people to leech off them. but dosen't help other vtubers by letting them leech as well. Hololive really is the Hulk Hogan of vtubing

>>3705440
Are they really not even doing a full hour?

>>3705660
It was mutual anon, he wanted to do something and management denied it. She even tried talking it down to just doing a song collab and even that didn't work out. You might be retarded.

>>3705624
Correct, first by leeching the fanbase off of larger targets, before their blowup.

>>3691657
I'm pretty impressed on how they already have an original debut song. I wish them well.

>>3705680
Imagine if HoloEN's debuts were only 25min. Four of the five would have been so much better with half their cringe cut out (Ina's was fine).

>>3705667
Are you retarded?

Polka collabed with a smaller VTuber also named Polka when Smaller Polka was doing an edurance stream to 5k

>>3705775
I'm not expecting much from holorejects, so 25 minutes is probably perfect. You're right.

I just noticed they all have streamlabs set up already

>>3705740
Niji was the biggest name in the industry before Hololive blew up last year. They need to start strong if they want anybody to care about them with HoloEN around.

>I'm not expecting much from holorejects, so 25 minutes is probably perfect. You're right.

>>3705713
Well, I'll concede this to you then. it might have more to do with Charlie not being as family friendly as management wants as colab partners.
I think my initial point still stands, NijiEN isn't getting a colab with HoloEN anytime soon so don't put your marbles on it happening.

>>3705867
Am I the only one reporting this ban evader/spammer?, I'm not even bumping threads because he doesn't deserve his (You)s.

NGL, that's a nice Wojack folder but still, fuck off.

>>3705929
I'm more interested in collabing with any other niji. It's a good way to introduce new fans to nijisanji while using EN as a startup. Imagine people not knowing who kaede is, then an amongus collab happened, then some people got curious which might led them to her buta no gohan with mito and then all of a sudden they got hooked.

>>3705976
when the fuck did wojacks get so cursed

>>3705929
It has nothing to do with it being family friendly. Swearing and graphic displays of violence are common in Hololive streams. This has more to do with the content reflecting poorly when measured against what management perceives as idol culture. While the separate male and female groups are able to get away with certain things that they do, they're not generally allowed to do so when members of the opposite sex are involved.

>Am I the only one reporting this ban evader/spammer?, I'm not even bumping threads because he doesn't deserve his (You)s.
>NGL, that's a nice Wojack folder but still, fuck off.

>>3706012
Elira seems to be on that already, she retweeted the upcoming mahjong tournament promo straight away.

>>3705929
I don't expect collabs to happen anytime soon because there needs to be some mutual interest involved. So unless someone from hololiveEN takes an interest in these girls, it's just never going to happen.

Regardless, the trialist shit is embarrassing on both ends. vtubing in the west isn't big enough to play that kind of game. It would be nice to see them together, but they all need to actually get to know each other first and want to interact.

>>3704470
I agree with the other two but fuck no, Elira's design is way better than her indie one

https://twitter.com/EliraPendora/status/1393427044277620737
Jesus christ...why are you trying so hard with such cringe dogshit "memes"?

>https://twitter.com/EliraPendora/status/1393427044277620737
>Jesus christ...why are you trying so hard with such cringe dogshit "memes"?

>>3706186
Maybe she's going for the kind of audience who eats that shit up? Definitely not for everyone, but I'll reserve judgement for how she behaves on stream.

>>3706012
I'm not so hopeful in that aspect. It takes so much time and effort to make an audience invested to someone foriegn, and I doubt they'll physically be able to run so many colabs anyways.

Maybe if there's a huge influx of clippers after EN's debut, that are willing to meticulously cover the JP side of events. But then again i doubt a newer fanbase is willing to sit through that much history.

>>3705440
>>3705680
Nijisanji debuts are 20-30 minutes since 2019. I don't know why y'all think that a debut needs to be 1 hour. They can talk whatever they want for
that time.

>>3705929
HoloEN won't collab with anyone be it vshojo, nijien or anything. Not because they are big but because of en management being retard.

>>3705273
This is just so fucking retarded and misinformed

>>3706186
It's just like your OGEY RRAT memes! Don't you guys like those?!

>>3706186
ogey

>>3706269
>>3706298
https://twitter.com/Bunana_Don743/status/1393254802247733249
defend this, NOW.

>>3706330
that cute. t.holofag

Mint's design was better, I have to be honest

>>3706330
you're making it sound like your holos have never done any stupid shit.

>>3706330
2 girls joking around with each other

>>3691894
The biggest thread on this board gets 500 IPs for special occasions, nothing that happens here affects the outside.

>>3706245
>but because of en management being retard
What exactly does HoloEN stand to gain from collabing with outsiders? When you're a Japanese businessman and you have an asset that works so well as it is, why bother taking risks when the reward is unclear?

>>3706352
>>3706375
>>3706379
Looks like she has found her target audience, Enjoy.

>>3706373
The new one at least. The original was kinda wonky, but the scuff had its own charm.

I am going to marry Pomu!

>>3706420
yeah, that was a thing right. I hope she made her monies back for the l2d since it didnt last so long

>>3706393
>What exactly does HoloEN stand to gain from collabing with outsiders?
Varied content. It gives fresh content for the talent to bounce off from. Makes for fresh jokes, fresh interactions, and fresh content, which is nice to see for the viewers who might be getting burned out by the same old faces or just watching the chuuba/streamer talk by himself to a mic.
It's not just cross promotion.

>>3705273
>Holo has been extremely adamant about not colabing with outsiders

False

I want the fairy to sit on my face. That is all.

>>3706330
damn that's hot

Caught the trailer as an ad while I was tuning into Ame's Later Alligator stream earlier tonight, they are definitely putting the word out

>>3697424
Nijifags are Nijifans.
Sneed posting is far beyond most people's minds.

>>3706393
Why HoloEN has this and HoloID doesn't? Makes you wonder, considering how ID collab with EN indies and with other ID vtubers all the time..

Apparently NijiEN ads are making their way onto Holo streams and clips, a bit humoring

>>3706454
>>3706482
You guys better queue up.

>>3706497
As they should be. Only retards feel offended by this when they don't understand that the situation between holo and niji in the west is very different.

>>3706534
NijiHolo Global soon...

>>3706402
It's a photoshopped image just like picrel

>>3706533
Different managment
Head of EN managment is likely an idolfag on a powertrip, while the approach of the other branches seems to be "as long as the talent is happy".

>>3706465
I don't think any of that's really as important as you claim. The top talents in hololive right now are all known for being a bit collab shy even within the company.

>>3706629
oh i never noitce that lmao.

>>3706629
Because who wants new and original content? Keep churning the wheels of the proven money machine and never leave the comfort zone, just as an industry leader should.

>>3706629
I'm not saying that it's the biggest thing to ever happen or a death kneel, just that it has utility beyond promotion. There are obviously people who make things work just by themselves on camera (and frankly that is what everyone does most of the time).

>>3706710
>Keep churning the wheels of the proven money machine and never leave the comfort zone
I wonder if this is what Cover thought with Gura's rigging. Might've just been contract shit though.

>>3706465
This is a valid point if you're in need of growth and need to figure out a way to build your audience, and not when you're already the king of the hill who is inclining faster than everyone else in the industry. Once you start slowing down you might consider it. Also the holos seemed to have no issues at all with nonstop APEX/Minecraft/ARK
But also it's not like they can't vary the content they produce without having to rely on external agencies, which is what they're doing with Holo ALT and whatever that game they're developing seems to be.
>>3706533
HoloEN was an enormous overnight success and either the biggest or second biggest gen Hololive ever had. Why even bother changing the formula that works this well? HoloID was lagging behind the other girls for the longest time, and many of them are still are, so it wouldn't be a bad idea to give them more breathing room.

>>3706602
My point is that HoloID in theory is in the same position in their market but they still are allowed to do it. So I mean, en management is very retarded overall with collabs.

>>3706757
Rumors say competent riggers left the company, but who knows

>All of them shilling ID.
Looks like they want EN to be the catalyst for ID to take off like HoloID has but I don't think it's gonna work.
I won't be surprised if these 3 get canned in a year.

>>3706796
None of this is cover anon, this is en and id management being differnt in how they deal with their branches.

>>3700380
I personally dislike swearing. Makes one sound ""special""

>>3706796
also their internal collabs are just as fresh, ina+mori collab and guerrila MC collab with gura are some of the best content.
Ame podcast tomorrow is a thing too.

>>3706826
Please, like you haven't called people on here niggers and faggots plenty of times.

>>3706393

More varied entertaining content?

I don't watch vtubers to root for Japanese businessmen. IDK who is making more money or not. HoloEN management decisions do make sense and the obviously work for the majority of fans, but for me they've lead to the branch seeming kinda boring.

>>3706482
I want to put my cock in Finana's pooper, but only after she cleans it properly.

>>3706811
Riggers aren't in the payroll, they are comissioned, rratchama

I am a CEO of a local company and I will dump all of our earnings into giving the fish akasupas to make her the top supacha earner in the world. Nothing can stop me now.

>>3706796
How come you only think in numbers, anon?

>>3706817
You clearly don't know how Ichikara works if you think like this when KR and ID are alive for 2 and 1 year respectively with voice packs, merchandise, new waves, songs in the case of ID and all that shit while their numbers according to many in here are a failure..

>>3705556
This one is more recent: https://clips.twitch.tv/CrazyTrustworthyYogurtVoteNay-mVj7_oo6bh0klMv-

>>3706992
number is all that matter.

>>3706884
Good post i swear most of the people on this board care more about views and company success then the actual quality of the streams. No different then the shit you see on /v/ honestly

>>3706992
What do you think the corporate suits value the most?

>>3706880
I reject your premise and maintain mine.

>>3706880
nigger faggot to you i guess.

>>3706995
I think you conveniently left out IN. Ignoring everything that doesn't fit your narrative?

>>3707066
sneed

>>3705280
He will be nijien second wave
Mark my words

>>3707038
Keeping a 3M chuuba on a bad rig because they'll pull in massive amounts of money even if they make bad decisions.
Why do you think viewer and corporate interests are the same?

>>3707169
>Why do you think viewer and corporate interests are the same?
Did I imply that?

>>3707169
>Keeping a 3M chuuba
Who?

>>3706534
Nijibeggars...

>>3707369
fucking embarrassing.

Well there goes an Apple anken out the window

>>3707076
Mermaid already has more subs than 2/3 of IN lol

>>3707369
I would

Wow, this thread already full of armchair businessman spewing fake bullshit about Ichikara and Cover.
Then again what else do you expect from /vt/?

>>3707369
kek

>>3707227
i think he means Kizuna Ai. But she isn't yet. It couldn't possibly be Gura since she's at least two months away from 3M subs.

>>3707417
I expect them to be faggots, and that's what I get, so I am satisfied.

>>3707187
Read the reply chain. Your posts read like you're more focused on channel numbers. Core fanbases would obviously stick around if their oshi did constant Apex but, if you consider /vt/ as people who watch streams, they'd likely appreciate a break from a status quo of APEXAPEXAPEX.
>>3707227
Whoops, meant to say nearing 3M. I had the "Gura 3 mil by september" projection in my head.

Their rigging looks better than holoEN.

>burger mermaid
>fish and chips anyone?
doesn't even make sense

>>3707076
I ignored IN because they had terrible numbers, never got waves, or anything. And the EN girls already surpassed 2 out of 3 of them.

Well Coco's meme review this week will be a shitty soundboard episode rather than an actual collab, which is good news for the debuts

>>3707834
Doesn't matter too much when Gura and Ame are doing a collab over it.

>>3692866
I don't watch Nijis but I sincerely hope that your eventual schizos will be nowhere near as bad or as plentiful as the ones that Holos get.

>>3707901
Most of the holo schizos are alway using niji as the bait btw, it is not that different

Why did they get mafumafu? Most EOPs don’t know him

>>3708090
Most of Utaitefags know him and those are in the age range who can spend money for niche Japanese fad hobby

>>3707369

>>3708090
>Most EOPs don’t know him
Oh, that would explain why I've never heard of him before. I saw him posted in /vsingers/ and was surprised to see so many high view videos.
I think I saw a post that said he was popular with female weebs though?

>>3708170
Yea for NijisanjiJP not EN though

>>3708257
look at his chat when he streams, it's 90% non japanese

>>3708090
Check under their announcement video.
These are the top comments.

So they are all debuting withing 30 minutes of each other? Are they quickly going to introduce themselves and then fuck off to do some collab? Because i don't think overlapping debuts is a good idea.

>>3708331
No anonchama, they're all simultaneously debuting so they get the least viewerships possible.

>>3708331
>Are they quickly going to introduce themselves and then fuck off to do some collab?
yes

>>3708378
THAT IS FUCKING RETARDED

>>3708511
Why do you think that?

>>3708090
He has a huge female weeb fanbase, it's kind of weird that they brought him in without having some fujobait male liver

>>3707495
if she keeps her sub cadence above 140k/mo, she'll get it before August hits.

>look at the chat to see people waiting
>there are already japs communicating with eops

I sincerely hope the thread speed is similar to this and not global, at least until it calms down after the imminent raiding and shitposting. Both for this threads sake and individual threads, that require bumping every hour to survive.

>>3708894
And if they all stream in the same timezone, it's going to have a lot of dead hours that will lead to people shitposting or off topic as seen with similar threads.

>>3707106
you telling me he isn't already a shoe in? that's fucking retarded. he has a built in audience. Hana's top streams are dominated by his appearances, she's going to get mogged by her own boomer dad.

>>3708378
No, they aren't faggot. Their debut is on each channel and then after it they'll go to the niji en channel to be with hana and that other faggot.

>>3708331
Nijisanji debuts are short. It's 20-30 minutes and that's it. I prefer it than 1 hour of bs.

>>3708894
It will be, these girls obviously aren't blowing up straight away like the Holo ENs were at first. Even the initial thread for the announcement didn't hit the post limit, the one during the debuts might do but none after that and definitely not every single thread like with global

>>3691708
LETS FUCKING GOOOOOO!!

>>3708855
I hope they promote them to JOP more so more people turn in their stream to make some big buzz and make youtube algorithm turns into their favorite

>>3709298
This is obvious. Hololive was already popular in the west while Nijisanji is niche in here to this day. No surprise.

>>3709298
I wonder if sharkmeido will sticky their debuts.

>>3710061
hahaha

>>3710061
Probably only if the threads get really fast.

>>3710061
>>3710406
Not even HoloEN's costume reveals got a sticky until Gura's

That's a tall order for literal whos

>>3710061
lol no, shark meido is tribalist

They aren't going to beat hlgg's posting speed, let alone need a sticky.

>>3710433
>That's a tall order for literal whos
nigga didn't monoe's termination notice get a sticky?

>>3710061
You would need Gura kind of thread speed to warrant that. That however is unlikely unless they each gain like 300k subs before debut. Also stickies usually attract the worst posters on a board. Do you really want that? I am not even a fan of nijEN and don't wish that upon their fans.

>>3710478
Pretty sure that was because retards were spamming the board for rrats, rumors and shitposting

>>3710575
Yeah that was purely for contaiment reasons. Moderation mostly sucks outside of the big threads

>>3710518
Gura gets preferential treatment from him. Even at /jp/ at /hlg/, only Gura's outfit stream got the thread archived and stickied because image limit was reached, when he normally doesn't even moderate the thread. Also none of the other girls outfit reveals, be it EN or JP, didn't get new threads when they were image capped. You think he's gonna give a shit about NijiEN, when he is already a tribalistic faggot on a power trip?

>>3710637
Of course not. In many ways this board is run by the wrong people and or understaffed. That head honchou is part of the problem as well. Regardless I wouldn't be so keen on stickies here. This board has some of the most deranged anons posting on it uncontested. The less attention you get the better it is in my opinion. Sticky threads are just a giant billboard that says "Fuck my thread up senpai".

/vt/ sticky history

>>3710784
>Yfw Monoe had 2 stickies but Gura only had 1

God graduated the wrong girl that day

>>3711006
Imagine the board speed if Gura graduated. That's at least three stickies worth, no?

>>3711006
>graduated

>>3711006
She got fired for a huge fuck up on her part, anon.
>>3711062
The whole board would be unusable for days, maybe even a werk.

>>3711006
>>3711062
Nijisanji will die first before Gura graduate s

>>3711388
Are you going to blow up their office or something as an act of "revenge"?

>>3711006
>Graduated

>>3705556
>calls her Mori
PEEPEE POOPOO MAN IS /our/GUY?

>>3709267
It seems better to me too, since usually those long ones just pad shit out and start to bore me. And there is only so much you can ask someone new on marshmallows or something.