/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>still mocks NijiEN
ehh nijicucks explain??

>>38012987
lazy + they hate streaming and their fans

>>38012987
>Mori
>532 hours in 10 months
>it's 7,29% of her time
5% keks where are you now? It's clear Mori puts more effort than ever before into hololive!

Why doesn't NijiEN make better streams?

>>38012987
Imagine wasting 5h a day watching stream

>>38012987
I mostly see them as entertainers than streamers.

>>38012987
Scarle just debuted recently like come on - how the fuck did you get beat by a unironic Fujo

>>38012987
I don’t understand the problem.

t. KFP

>>38012987
I just manually counted all IRyS October streams and it’s like 10 hours less than this list

>>38013199
she was streaming personally for me

>>38013081
Me and my friends know some hardworking hookers, they need to work hard because they're ugly as hell.

>>38012987

>people that debuted the last week of July are catching up to holos

>>38013199
The statistics come from vstats it has two 4hrs member streams and a 2hr unarchived karaoke included.

ELIRA LOVE

>>38012987
They have a salary.

Quality > Quantity. But I guess in Holos case they have neither LOL

>>38013081
cuckbeats still don't understand why do people hate her

>>38012987
Western women are like that

>>38013520
Aren't the NijiEN ones western women too?

>>38012987
>scarle putting in 500 hours over 3 months
jesus...

>>38013550
Most are Asian, though they live in NA.

>>38013414
I’m sure you thought you were being very clever here.

>>38013605
I honestly feel bad for Scarle, she's doing her best, but she got the completely wrong model.

>>38013637
no? you don't need to be smart to know how much of a troublemaker this landwhale is. if you are so smart, explain niggerbeat

>>38012987
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZq3An7Tf_w

Elira, Selen and Pomu at the top. Best 3 Niji girls in a row.

I do enjoy a hard worker, that's why I watch Kaela. Oh shit, she's streaming right now, I have to go!

>>38012987
didnt realize Ewiwa streamed that much damn

Say the line, Holobrony!

>>38013520
Half of Tempiss barely even stream, funny enough it’s the only two members that somewhat matter. Why does it always happen?

>>38012987
wait, kiara puts the most effort in En, but still has the lowest avg ccv, why is that?

>>38014439
>Filthy nijinigger trash should take their worthless 3view chuubas and get the fuck out of our board.
Was that the line you were looking for?

>>38014564
chikin voice

>>38012987
Does this include Twitch? If not Selen is probably actually above Elira.

>>38014439
Wait, let me guess:
>"h-heh... q-quality over quantity, n-nijinigger!"
and the inevitable retort:
>"...so, where's the quality? lol"

>>38013613
Why don't HoloENs western asians stream as much then? Well, mostly the Leafgooks Ina and Kronii who're the worst offenders. And even with the Ozchinks only Bae puts in a passable amount of work, while Sana was rumao-tier.

>>38012987
>>>/vt//#/
You need to go back.

>>38014821
It's still not enough even if it doesn't. Selen has 131 hrs on twitch total.

This is pretty dire. If you're a normal fan who just wants their streamer to stream then HoloEN has been a complete dud for most of the last year.

Famelira, Dragoons and Pomudachi especially never have to worry. Even with two of them stuck in a Japan hotel for the last 3 weeks they've streamed more hours than a handful of Holos.

>>38015119
104hrs between 1st January and 31st October.

>>38014623
Fauna, Mumei and Gura speak in a higher pitch.

>>38012987
Wait. Council + Hope already have more streamed hours than Gura and Ina?
Lmao.

>>38015415
It's not career total it's total this year

All of you here panicking about streamed hours. While my oshi isn't even streaming.

>>38015756
Sorry I have been fucking her too rough these last 2 months that is why she cant stream

>>38015756
You know not streaming is one thing. But I don't know how I'd cope with not streaming and barely even tweeting just to check in and say how things are or whatever.

>>38012987
>Except for Ren the Twitter leech, iLuna streamed more than Tempus
I'm almost sad for them.

>move out of shitty apartments or parents house
>streaming hours nosedive

>>38016478
Too busy having sex

>>38012987
Quality > Quantity

>>38015836
Well, I hope you won't ever have to find out.

Is it just me or do NijiEN fans have way higher standards than HoloEN fans? Inbtheir thread Petra gets called lazy and that she doesn't care about her fans. But in HoloEN she would be one of the most dedicated girls they have.

>>38016561
>Quality
citation needed

>>38016875
It's why most of ILUNA are 3views. No NijiEN fan denies they're a flop, even if they don't say it out loud.

They've gotten their footing now, sure, but it's too little too late.

>>38012987
I mean if they make enough money to live comfortably, why stream more?
I sure as hell would love to work only a few hours every day without my quality of life suffering for it.

>>38016875
The funny thing is that Petra is not even lazy, she works on a lot of "behind the scenes" stuff like other peoples music videos etc. The nijinigs in the thread never check out the credits on MVs

>>38015014
The only bad thing about Sana's graduation is that it's harder to make fun of her while numberposting.

>>38017189
Fucking this.
NijiEN actually have valid excuses for absences. Either they're doing a big project, helping out with someone else's project or actually dying

>>38017094
I think it's worse for Tempus. Their viewership has plummeted and their golden boy Vesper is not only suspended but was overtaken by Scarle as the most superchatted, and ILUNA have made more from SCs and merch than Tempus have.

Worse, Tempus are the first 4 members of a brand new branch, whereas ILUNA are the 21st-26th members of NijiEN. The only thing ILUNA really flopped in was how terribly they complimented existing members.

>>38015237
Their voices are not as bad.
I still find them annoying btw. Just not as much.

>>38014439
>>38016561

>>38015756
Anon. Anon she's dead...

>>38012987
because the burger mentality is "smarter not harder"

>>38017798
>The only thing ILUNA really flopped in was how terribly they complimented existing members.
That's an extremely generous interpretation. Getting 3 digit viewers half the time is awful by the standards of the branch.

>>38014439
>Say the line, Holobrony!
Kiara is fucking more based than Vox Akuma

>>38019951
true

>>38016561

>>38019811
It was always going to happen because ILUNA didn't appeal to the zhangs.

Scarle is a 3-view but she's also earned $90k in donations, and she said she's at peace with it because she has night classes that force her to stream at hours that are too late for Americans and too early for Europeans.

There's a lot of Nijis that have spent time as 3-views. Rosemi really struggled to break 1k when she started, and all of Ethyria were 3-views after their first week. All of them recovered though because they all found their place not only as streamers but also as part of NijiEN. ILUNA have found their footing as individuals but I can't tell you a single one of them who feel like they're a part of the broader company.

For Tempus, these guys have no expectations, no EN senpai in their own branch, and they had a much larger viewerbase for a longer period of time. Now half of them have ILUNA-tier viewership and they've already exhausted their trump card of HoloEN collabs. Much like StarsJP didn't benefit from Tempus, Tempus won't benefit from future generations, and they've already been exposed to all the Holofans that were willing to give them a chance.

(The biggest flop is undoubtedly Aster though, at least Aia does her reps).

>>38012987
>scarles hours
what the fuck this bitch is competing with koyori and kaela

>>38013657
She is not "trying her best". Her streams are garbage and she keeps spamming the same shit over and over again. Endless handcams and tierlists. Her streams are trash. Just because she puts in a lot of hours doesn't mean the content is good.

>>38013834
She's literally the darling of both JP and EN managment, with almost every JP talent fawning over her.
Only trouble here is in your head.

>>38016875
>NijiEN fans have higher standards
>A bunch of fags who destroyed the culture of the branch dominate the branch in all metrics
Sure thing sister

>>38016989
Gura has a decade worth of experience in voice acting. It's not a coincidence people find her voice very soothing. She's also a quick witted streamer and a taletned singer. She actually goes for her idol dream.

How about your oshi, does she have a decade worth of something?

>>38021447
>umisea shorts exist where Ina and Gura were utter garbage compare to Marine and Aqua

>>38021447
Quite a lot of NijiEN girls have been involved in content creation for that kind of length of time as utaite before later on becoming indie vtubers/streamers.

>>38013041
Nijigirls regularly get 6k now, while fauna with 6k is an upper holo. Gura is the top tier with 20k but she doesn't stream and isn't representative of hololive anymore. Vesper and Vox were getting similar CCV but the rest of tempiss and luxiem have reclined. Vesper has probably also reclined because of suspension.

Hololive is no longer the "biggest numbers ever" company, regardless of how you try to meme it.

>>38022500
>Quite a few NijiEN girls have been involved in content creation for a decade
>Have accepted a role where they are nothing more than onahole accessories for the boys who are the stars of the branch
I almost feel bad for them

>>38022671
>Nijigirls regularly get 6k now, while fauna with 6k is an upper holo.
Show me these regular 6k streams NijiEN girls get. Are you going to pick out outfit reveals and big collabs? Fauna also gets way higher than 6k most streams, not sure where you got that from. For that matter, Gura is nowhere near 20k, she's actually reclined heavily. Vesper is like a 3k shitter now. Vox's normal streams reclined below Luca although his peak content still does okay.

>>38022855
Why are holobronies so obsessed with cuckold porn?

>>38023754
You tell me. NijiEN talents are the ones posting about cuckolding on their twitter accounts. You NijiEN guys are the experts here.

>>38016561

I remember how everyone here was shitting on Kiara for gushing over Pekora. Turns out, that's what someone that actually likes hololive would do, fangirl over their favorite streamer. The others treat it like just a job or worse.

>>38014543
They all have daily streams scheduled except for Axel who's going to Japan and Vesper who's in jail. Even Magni who has back hort instead of taking a break is just limiting his streams to 1 hour until he recovers.

EN are fucking lazy that's why I don't bother watching them, It's impossible when you've mostly watched the JP girls barring Manjigumi they're doing 10x things and most of them manage to stream everyday.

EN aren't doing dance lessons, Hologra, 3D performance/rehearsals, Shill VA work at 4am like Pekora, Voice lessons, They don't have an excuse.
Now I'm not easying it's an easy job but they all act like inidivuals, They rarely do anything together or just simple fun collab streams.

how much of those streams is superchat reading? That is so boring and seems to be half of kiara's streams. Or it feels like it.

>>38024910
The metric is in streaming hours, not # of streams, so it doesn't really matter. If she spends more time on SC reading than normal then it's just a trade off between appealing to your oshis at the expense of the general audience.

>>38021447
>Voice acting
Umisea exists.
>Quick witted
This can mean like a thousand things. Got a sample clip?
>Talented singer
She is, the best in Myth probably, but she doesn't stand out in particular amongst her senpai.
>Goes for her idol dream
not a metric of quality

She's a substandard-okay chuuba. I watched her and only her exclusively for half a year before I branched off and found other equally good, if not better, JP indies then eventually NijiJP.

>How about your oshi, does she have a decade worth of something?
My oshi is the only chuuba Aqua's ever superchatted to.

This has been a horrible year for HoloEN, and next one is going to be worse

>>38013041

>>38014600
Now say it again without crying, faggot.

>>38026064
> litteral nijisanji member in the post
> post this
actual retardation.

>>38026001
EN3 is coming.

>>38012987
Hi, do you have the spreadsheet for this? Can you show the calculation for only the last 4 months? I want to see where Tempus falls in all this with everyone on an equal footing

>>38012987
I added my oshi's streams together for October and she beats everyone on this list.

>>38027585
Just open up Excel and do the math yourself retard it's all right there

I'm surprised IRyS is so low, I thought she had a fairly consistent schedule and most of her streams are a decent length.

I guess it is just a low bar to clear compared to the rest of HoloEN

>>38027251
when cover goes public, to drive up the stock price. they put they branch on ice because there will be restructuring

>>38029418
She usually streams for long hours but only about 2 times per week.

>>38029418
I mean, if you look at the recent months instead of the total, she has been outstanding a lot of the Nijis. You can see a clear trend, a lot of them started off strong and are burning out a little. Their hours are heavily frontloaded.

>>38029873
*Outstreaming

>>38027585

>>38030400
Interesting, thanks. Scarle absolutely destroying everyone even with only part of July, I wonder if she can sustain the hours.