/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Really, it depends entirely on why she would hypothetically graduate.

>>3896178
she's old and hasn't married yet

>>3896178
She wants to move onto a different role or try her hand at something else or someshit. Amicably.

Would it be enough to implode cover if was forced? She isn't FBK or Gura or anything.

honorable discharge

>Would streamers from other languages and agencies show some respect?
no, all western vtubers (not foreign branch) hate hololive

also all new vtubers are newfags and don't know the history of vtubing
JP might respect though

>>3896178
It would have to because she is ready to move on with her life shes not really the type to do yabai shit and even if she did something cover would likely forgive almost anything from her if not out of loyalty then fear of fan backlash.

>>3896234
>Would it be enough to implode cover if was forced? She isn't FBK or Gura or anything.
Maybe not implode but they would certainly feel the heat. Sora might not have a ton of followers but she is nigh universally respected and if the graduation seemed unjust I bet even some of the other holo talents would stand up for her.

>>3896234
>Amicably
Tears all around.
>forced
Cover dies. FBK will follow her in protest and collapse everything

>>3896147
She'll never graduate, they'll just going to find another talent to play tokino sora, it's easy since her personality is almost non existent

Sora might graduate someday, but I have faith she won't do it before she fulfills her dream

>>3896385
that would fly over like a lead balloon. I can not imagine the fury.

>>3896234
Sora's the foundation hololive is built off of while holomems like Fubuki or Gura are pillars, if we're going with a building analogy. A forced graduation would definitely implode Cover in some fashion.

>>3896234
>She isn't FBK or Gura or anything.
Anon, as Coco said it. She's very special to them. She's the Daisenpai, Megami, Goddess of Hololive. Any forced graduation will collapse Hololive so much that it will drag down all other vtuber companies like a Vtuber black hole. If its amicable though, expect no one to stream on that day from any company.

>>3896234
never forced
she's directly related to oogay or sum shit as the rrats whisper in my ear

It would be a 3d grand concert. All the Hololive members + other big names from vtuber world would call in. Kizuna and Mito would personally come to attend the stream and send her off. She'd hand over her hairpin to Fubuki (who's the most likely to become company's mascot if Sora leaves anyway) signifying that she's entrusting Hololive to future generations

>>3896465
>expect no one to stream on that day from any company.
And if they do?

>>3896479
This sounds like something straight out of one of my idol anime.

You would have Kiara endlessly tweeting how she feels about this and how she sees herself in the future.

Heck, she couldstreamsecond seconds after sora's graduation just to cry on stream and cash on the kfpfaggots

>>3896813
I dislike Kiara and hate KFP faggots but holy shit, rent free

>>3896813
rent free

>>3896683
Well im 6'7'' and jacked

>>3896864
>>3896887
As free as you want but doesn't change the fact that she'll do it the first chance she has.

>>3896479
The only thing I would change is FBK. They're too close debut-wise. It would need to be an even younger generation with Pekora or Gura popularity

>>3896934
At this point you're paying her

>>3896147
It won't be a graduation, she will be elevated to eternal member instead.

>>3896955
I wanted to answer something else but others anons already posted it so I went for the shitposting route

>>3896934
you came into a thread about Sora and you're thinking about Kiara so much that you somehow made it about her, you're just further feeding her ego by shoving her into every conversation

>>3896479
Kino af

>>3896385
It worked well for Kizuna Ai, after all

>>3896385
Ok nijifag. Your entire company is nonexistent now

>>3896939
>Pekora
Doesn't really embody hololive even if she is popular.
>Gura
I couldn't think of worse hands. She is hololive in name only. Yes she's popular but the role doesn't suit her. It has to be someone with heart and soul, Gura has neither.

FBK is the only good choice but chances are her responsibilities will be elevated as time goes on.

>>3896934
t. scenario you made up in your head

>>3896939
What about Suisei? She carries the company's colors and her dream of singing alongside Sora on stage lays perfect groundwork for finally becoming the one to carry on her legacy. Can't think of anyone else since everyone else is too quirky to become the mascot while she still has the old school idol charm

>>3896147
It would without a doubt become the biggest live viewed stream in Holo history. I imagine it being at least like a 3 hour event where we get a huge Sora concert with basically everyone who ever mattered in Vtubing history showing up one way or the other. Video messages from already graduated VTubers, weird collabs, Holostars sharing the big stage, all bets are off. We'd even get some proper 3D action with a heartfelt goodbye video message from YAGOO himself.

But then again, I don't see Sora graduating either way. Cover is doing well, her music career seems to be working out, she's still the face of Hololive and doing the most/biggest promo activities despite being low in sub charts. It would really have to come from a desire of the talent for a graduation to happen.

>>3897164
>Marine
Too casual
>Aqua
Too dumb
>Rushia
Too unstable
>Korone
Not her style
>Mio
It could work in the company but not outside of it

>>3897176
Suisei is low key "that guy" that no one actually likes.

Honestly I think Miko works the best but her health is always a concern.

>>3896479
But anon, she already handed her old hairpin over. It seems a successor has been chosen.

>>3897185
One thing is for sure. Sora's graduation would be a much bigger event than Mito's. For good reason too.

>>3897164
I agree. You don't just pick people that's popular. Going for pekora or gura is last option. Suisei, FBK fit the bill more. They are more outgoing and more well respected.

>>3897176
Actually Fubuki or Suisei would be the best choices, Suisei being the top choice here especially given her singing and dancing and all around idol qualities.

>>3896479
Realistically speaking she would be passing the torch on to everyone in hololive. Passing it to another person in specific would be too much responsibility for that person

>>3897246
Hitomi Chris would be a better choice than her, lol.

>>3897260
Tons of people respect and love Mito but she just doesn't have the same dignified aura. I am a holofag and I would kneel to Mito in a heart beat but I'm just too in awe of Sora to think anyone could top her.

>>3897246
Didn't she stop doing karaoke because of her condition? I imagine being the company's mascot would require her to attend more musical activities

Sora's young, so she can go another 10-15 years of being an idol VTuber if she wanted to.

>>3897338
She only stopped the weekly ones, she didn't stop altogether

>>3897357
It's all hypothetical. Of course it is too soon and not on anyone's radar but it is a decent thought exercise to consider the soul of the company she works for.

Honestly, if the Zhangs really wanted to hurt hololive they'd go after Sora.

>>3897321
>Hololive fan kneeling to Mito
pathetic, I would spit on her

>>3897266
Suisei is probably the only person with an ego big enough to accept the role. Gura, Marine, Towa, Coco etc. would be scared shitless.

>>3897260
Mito is the pioneer of Live2D streaming format. A lot of nu-era vtubers picked up the hobby because of her. I don't see why that would be the case.

>>3897321
The only one who could top Sora would probably be Kizuna Ai herself.

>>3897321
I think its because Sora has been around longer than Mito and was soloing the company with few viewers in the beginning. Her story just sounds more inspiring than mito even if mito was more influential in the early days

>>3897418
Yeah, Mito is worthy of tons of respect but there is no other Nijisanji talent that I would ever place near Sora and probably the only Nijisanji I would place above all hololive members save for Sora.

>>3897416
Why do you dislike her so much lmao. She's been doing this for a long time too. I wouldn't even consider Gura marine towa or coco before her.

>>3897416
How do I know you're a chumbud?

>>3897448
The main difference is that Mito has become largely irrelevant in her own company once it transitioned into Mansanji. Sora on the other hand has an aura that envelops all of hololive. Even if she will never top the viewership charts or anything like that the respect she commands is second to none and everybody kneels to her. Newer Manjis probably don't even know who Mito is.

The people that think gura should represent hololive after sora are just delusional and reek of newfaggatory.

>>3897439
Man, I'm just imagining the huge ripple effects across the industry when Ai decides to retire. She's pretty much a god; what do you do when a god throws in the towel?

>>3897503
I picked random holomems and threw in a HoloEN. Gura could graduate tomorrow and I would just watch baseball instead. I love Miko, Kanata, and Okayu. I'm just saying Suisei is the only holomem that has the ego to take the mantle for herself.

>>3897564
No, anon. You clearly listed Gura first then picked random holomems.
>Gura, Marine, Towa, Coco etc. would be scared shitless
You're not fooling anyone.

>>3897608
Fuck Gura. Really, fuck her. I don't like Gura and I don't watch Gura. She brings numbers and nothing else to the hololive experience and numbers aren't even that important in the face of what Sora brings. Gura is the most soulless, right place right time holomem. She is a meme that went on too long.

>>3897520
Wrong, it's basically impossible to not know about Mito if you're going into Nijisanji. There's 6 people who entered the company because of her, at least 2 of them being the ones in the top in terms of viewership numbers. Kuzuha, the most popular niji male, also gives respect to Mito; Mito's on the face of almost every single Nijisanji recruitment ad ever, and Fumi revealed that when they were getting newbie briefed, someone showed them a video of Mito saying one of her popular emotional quotes. You'd have to be extremely ignorant to not know of Mito if you're applying to Nijisanji because the top males talk about her, and one of them is her child.

>>3897661
Ok chill. Let's not shit up a good sora thread.

>>3897679
>Nijisanji
Mansanji, get it right and I said newer Manjis don't know who she is. Kuzuha isn't a newer Manji.

>>3897564
Suisei has the right to bear that ego honestly.

>>3897564
>ego
You don't even watch her do you?

>>3897679
To add to this the HoloEN members all mentioned Mito as inspirations. Mito isn't the company the same way Sora is to hololive but the way she put herself in that role that people must kneel to is something to marvel at.

>>3897397
Surprisingly, despite the bugs who used to manage Sora's Bilibili account taking potshots at cover, none of the zhang's actually tried to go after her like they did the rest of hololive which is surprising. I guess there's just an aura around her that makes her feel dignified. Don't know.

>>3897730
>the HoloEN members all mentioned Mito as inspirations
Absolutely false. I would be surprised if Gura and Ame even know who she is, hell, Calli didn't even know what hololive was, lol.

>>3897745
I meant NijiEN.

>>3897730
Did you mean to type NijiEN?

>>3897757
Easy to say that when the company forces you too

>>3897745
Makes me think...
I don't watch HoloEN but have any of them ever bent the knee to Sora?

>>3897740
Sora really sounds like a fantasy character at this point.

>>3897777
Wasted quads. Pomu is certainly a fan if you heard her talk about it

>>3897781
If you join Hololive without kneeling to sora you gotta go in my opinion.

>>3897777
There is no pressure to say you love Mito. They do it of their own free will.

>>3897702
Ibrahim literally was with Mito on Nijibara recently. Nagao showed up in her 2020 Hyaku Monogatari stream. Tojiro is scared of Nazono Mito, and Idaharu played Among Us with Mito before, and all of them seemed like they've already seen at least a clip or her, you don't even watch the people you're talking about.

>>3897834
I highly doubt that

>>3897867
At least half of the roster describe Mito as "totally unhinged" and not "a lovely senpai I adore".

>>3897730
HoloEn? You mean NijiEn right? Also, I think the comparison does somewhat hold. It's like comparing Kobe and MJs (final retirement). MJ was always more popular and influential than Kobe but Kobe's retirement was more memorable.

>>3897912
>MJ
Won a title in Salt Lake City with a flu
>Kobe
Chucked shots while no one was guarding him

>>3897820
I hear Ina doesn't like her much. She was never a holo fan to begin with.

>>3897912
Mito is Sam Bowie while Sora is Michael Jordan.

>>3897164
>>3897176
Honestly, I just meant a holo in Gen 10+ that enjoy current era Pekora- or Gura-like success.
>>3897557
>what do you do when a god throws in the towel?
The same way nips will when an Emperor/dies retires. Kizuna is basically VTuber Empress at this point. Past her prime in power but still incredibly influential as the holo and niji samurai clans fight for power and favor

>>3897969
Pretty sure Ina is a massive holonerd and watches their streams regularly before. She always says she loves everyone in Hololive.

>>3897557
Definitely a big deal, enough that i wouldn't be surprised to see it mentioned even in some western news outlets (though unlikely). You can bet your ass that JP twitter would blow up.

>>3897969
>I hear Ina doesn't like her much
Where the hell did this rrat come from? First I'm hearing of it, lol.

>>3898046
>uh yeah, hololive... I love everyone there!

>>3898073
>western news outlets (though unlikely)
I think it's more likely than you think. Kizuna Ai has been a youtube staple for a long time so if youtube itself advertises and pushes her graduation as a big deal then it might get a passing mention on a news outlet. There is no chance this happens with any other vtuber.

>>3897969
Ina literally cried from happiness when they sung Shiny Smily Story on stage for the first time. Shut the fuck up retard and go watch streams.

>>3897712
Enough to know that Suisei would totally do it without humility.

>>3897707
No she doesn't. She is just a good success story.

>>3897820
Well, I am sure no one would dare to disrespect Sora, though if it's possible to commit one YAB that's unforgivable, that would be it.

>>3898081
Gee anon, could you at least make your rratt a little more believable? There's at least three HoloENs who you can legitimately say that and it wouldn't even be rrat and you pick the actual holonerd?

>>3898173
Flare was pretty disrespectful and no one did anything to her.

>>3898250
Yeah but Flare is a nigger so it's expected behavior.

>>3898178
>three
*four

>>3898250
Sora secretly a M and wanted it.

>>3896147
This thread is pointless naval-gazing and isn't applicable to reality. It's like asking what would happen if Hulk Hogan left the WWF - except it's 1987, Hogan's at the height of popularity and there is no real heir to the throne: It's fine because there doesn't have to be yet and it takes time to build up a successor.

If Sora ever passes on her mantle - it'll be to somebody who hasn't even been introduced in Hololive yet (nobody currently in Hololive fits the bill - including FBK and Suisei).

>>3896319
>no, all western vtubers (not foreign branch) hate hololive
>also all new vtubers are newfags and don't know the history of vtubing

>>3896319
Imagine how nuclear the board would get if Nyanners streamed during Sora's graduation.

>>3898250
Flare is respectful though, just not to the autistic degree that others are.

>>3898373
It would basically unlock an achievement for a previously unknown suicide method

>>3896374
>Cover dies. FBK will follow her in protest and collapse everything
Korone and Pekora would carry JP, Kiara probably would leech, use the drama to become independed streamer

WIN WIN

>>3898339
Sora will become a groomer confirmed?

>>3896191
I can fix that

>>3897792
I know right. I think the only response that the chinks left on her twitter when she showed support to Coco was a "I respectfully disagree, country comes first" or some shit like that. The guys who got that screenshot back in /jp/ were also surprised at how polite and amicable the bugs were.

>>3898373
even better if her stream was just her reacting to sora's graduation stream and she just talks over like 90% of it

>>3896465
if she's so special why they rarely collab with her faggot

>>3898339
Hogan passed the torch to The Ultimate Warrior who then proceeded to flame out hard under the pressure of being the guy. I could see Suisei flaming out like that. She is a try hard ego maniac who over analyzes everything she does so I could see her crumbling under the pressure of dealing with what Sora had to deal with.

>>3897215
>Suisei is low key "that guy" that no one actually likes.
Explain

>>3897557
>what do you do when a god throws in the towel?
Mantle her, just like Tiber Septim.

>>3898414
Forreal? Pinkoids behaving human for once?

>>3898425
Because they are genuinely scared. It's something Sora actually talked about, how she'd like to interact more with her kohais but it's like there is a barrier. Just look at this board, half the people here are probably not even subbed to Sora and they fucking kneel because it's Sora.

>>3898425
Sora barely even stream in the first place. When she does stream she streams for like 2 hours max. I would imagine everyone is trying to be considerate of her schedule and multiple talents have said they wanted to but she is hard to approach because of her aura and they are afraid they might screw it up.

>>3897167
this doesn't make me feel angry, or hateful just embarrassment and disappointment that she is in Hololive

>>3896864
>>3896887
you know it's true...
cope

>>3898456
>>3898473
then she's a fucking trophy...

>>3898563
It's just Japanese autism. Maybe it's just hard because she's daisenpai, but most of them are older than her.

This is a meaningless question because Sora has no reason to graduate and Cover has no reason to graduate her. The skills and experience she has do not translate to higher pay or better working conditions in a different company or industry, and, what's more, Cover is the agency to belong to right now anyway when it comes to Vtubing. Furthermore, it's an agency that she played an instrumental role in building into what it is today. The only way she'll leave Hololive is in a body bag.

>>3897740
The Zhangs know that if they mess with Yagoo's daughter, he will go Liam Neeson on them

FBK is already the "2nd in command" after Sora, its just a given she would the one to step up.

Sora being untouchable increases my hope for humanity by a slight margin.

>>3898409
Fubuki leaving in protest is final yab level. You underestimate how trusted she is.

>>3900753
More like, FBK is already the Face of hololive. Sora already passed on the torch so she can do perform Lives in peace. And friend is already training Marine to take her place so she can play games in peace

>>3901218
>And friend is already training Marine
FBK you fool, you're supposed to pass the torch to the *younger* generation

>>3901011
Literally this. She herself said that if she graduates, then that would mean people can't trust Hololive anymore. Newfags can easily Google (if anyone will start screeching).

>>3901381
Anon...

>>3901218
Why Marine anyway? Is her presence large in Japan? Honestly doesn't feel like she comes close to FBK.

>>3901577
Current top 3 hologirls are Pekora, Marine, and Aqua. Only one is non-autistic and can be sent on her own to represent the brand without sperging out. While Friend is big in our hearts, she is not as big as those three in raw numbers

>>3898473
she's been streaming alot more recently. If you haven't seen it then you haven't been on the lookout.

>>3896465
Pretty sure Hololive doesn't have that sort of pull in Japan yet, though its popular. Not like if Kizuna Ai retired. Kizuna Ai would probably show up since they do have some minor connection, but I doubt Niji would stop streams, much less mito attending. It would be huge for hololive though.

She’ll just give it to AZKi, why is this even a question?

>>3897215
Im a 35p, but sakura 'faq' miko is probably not the right choice for the idol face of hololive. She could if she wanted to, she has the clout inside Hololive, is a veteran, is beloved by the talents, the fans, and the staff, and her fanbase is strong enough. She has those seiso and emoi moments that means she could carry the mantle if necessary... but Honestly I don't want to lose the 'faq' persona. Also she hasn't really maintained connections to the outside from what I've seen (aside from that 1 participative collab with patra a while back), and yea her health/ constitution probably wouldn't allow it for true energetic dancing. We already know she has some sort of condition that effects that. Suisei started out as an Indie, not Hololive or Cover born. I don't think she could play such a central role with that in mind, though she is a successful Hololive implanted talent now. I do think Fubuki would probably be the best choice. She's already defacto 'representative for the JP idols anyways.

>>3899203
or with a wedding ring anon.

>>3898339
Looking forward to Sora body-slamming Polka.

>>3901703
Thinking about it, the position of holokage after Sora seems to be a choice between a high-performing autist and someone with similarly high numbers but with the added ability of talking to other people normally. Arguably, Aqua had a better claim than FBK in 2019 with her higher bilibili popularity and she was nicknamed by 2ch/5ch as the Nijikiller. Now, we’re seeing Pekora with higher numbers but Marine is incredibly personable.