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What the fuck is happening?

Compare, discuss whatever, shit is wack

https://youtu.be/ZnP0cKNPE04

https://youtu.be/I1cdQp5uz5s

>> No.3895350

>>3895324
Nijisanji song sounds better
Hololive Cover was fucking ass, I don’t know what they were going for with that cover. Could’ve just had Gura solo song country roads and it would’ve been better

>> No.3895372

>>3895324
Nijisanji's is showing up as a YouTube ad I think, compare the likes and comments.

>> No.3895384

>>3895324
Diamond City Lights is the better song

>> No.3895432

Nijisanji song is in the youtube ads just like what they did with the promo video. Pretty scummy tactic if you ask me. I would get it if it was some indie trying to spread awareness but Nijisanji is a much bigger company and shouldn't be resorting to that kind of thing.

>> No.3895476

>>3895432
Didn’t sss story used ads too?

>> No.3895490

>>3895324
I thought country roads was pretty meh and niji song was alright but
>96k likes vs. 24k likes
Niji just has a ton of cash to burn

>> No.3895527

>>3895324
Niji's song is being spread in youtube ads you fucking dunce. Those views are not organic.

>> No.3895540

>>3895324
ANYCOLOR actually cared enough to spend the money to make something professional sounding. Pomu mentioned she recorded her part in a studio and it's probably safe to say the other two did as well. Meanwhile, at most only Calli and Kiara recorded their parts in Cover's studio while the other three were stuck with whatever mic they had back in October.

>> No.3895571

>>3895324
The Holocover was awfully produced, and just didn’t sound right at all.

Doesn’t help Gura is the only talented singer out of her group

>> No.3895618

>>3895432
Nijisanji is built around abusing as much of youtube's mechanics as possible and getting away without being demonetized with as much shit as possible. That's how they got so big in the first place.

>> No.3895658

>>3895324
>ads vs organic viewers in a mostly dead channel
Of course, it's going to have more views. The same thing happened on their debut video

>> No.3895669

>>3895324
ANYCOLOR put out ads for the song that added to the viewcount. If you compare the number of likes the Holo video has four times more.

>> No.3895699

>>3895324
>3 literal whos beating five top dog livers
Really makes you think
>b-but, Country Roads was h-horrible!
So? Still sung by 5 top dog Holos, against 3 literal whos in comparison.

>> No.3895710

>>3895432
Atleast they are giving money to Cover. And still get more views the usual.

>> No.3895723

>>3895699
Paid ads are the excuse to why the top 5 are losing to three literal who’s.

>> No.3895761

>>3895723
But the five have the algorithm advantage.
It's what numberfags would use by now to justify IF Country Roads was stomping DCL.
Obviously, they won't use it now for obvious reasons.

>> No.3895796

>>3895761
Paid ads are no joke, especially with vtubers since they're so easy to focus, look at this shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vx9TvoCK8OI
Hadn't even debuted and it was at 1M views

>> No.3895853

>>3895796
I would've believed you if this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITTbdj7o2mY
also had a million views, since she was shilled to death before.

>> No.3895859

>>3895796
It also costs a fuck ton of money, I don't know if they changed the rate but last I checked it was like 300 dollars per thousand clicks, so they've spent at least 90k USD for those ads

>> No.3895882

>>3895324
Redpill me on Nijisanji EN. I barely have enough time for all of Hololive EN, let alone JP and ID. What does Nijisanji bring to the table?

>> No.3895897

>>3895432
The song was made for promotion and that's what they're using it for.
What fucking dimension are you from where basic advertising is scummy?

>> No.3895917

>>3895882
VShojo lite

>> No.3895936

>>3895882
Same thing as any other product. Imagine saying "Redpill me on Doritos. I barely have enough time for all of Pringles, let alone Pringles Wavy and Pringles Light. What does Doritos bring to the table?"

If this hobby didn't cultivate so many parasocial relationships it would be literally next to 0 opportunity cost to just check out another brand and see which individuals you like.

>> No.3895949

>>3895882
More comfy streams thats for sure, Dragon is fun. I get burnt out from the HololiveEN streams repetitive same jokes and memes being spammed in the chat, flat jokes it’s just hectic

>> No.3895957

>>3895432
...It's scummy because it helped them gain more views than your meme song?

>> No.3895959

>>3895432
>marketing is scummy

>> No.3895967

Wont lie, I really didn't like the cover of Country Road. It felt...wrong.

Listening to the Niji song and it's pretty decent.

>> No.3895979
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3895979

much as i hate country roads for being a meme song, adview counts are disingenuous as hell.

it's not even traditionally like when people see the ad and then click to the video through it, meaning the ad just gives exposure and the actual views are still interests. no, everyone ever watching a vtuber on youtube and without an adblock counts as a view.

>> No.3895995

>>3895432
>What's basic marketing

>> No.3896001

>>3895372
The 40sec debut trailer was used as an ad, the song hasn't from what I've seen.

>> No.3896010

>>3895882
I haven't watched the other two but Pomu is an actual otaku of the highest grade, with a powerlevel beyond 99% of this board. And it's fun to see someone knowledgeable on interests that overlap with mine.

>> No.3896036

>>3895324
They paid for most of those views. Still a better song than Country Roads.

>> No.3896045
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3896045

>Commonly covered song from established vtubers, so I already know what to expect.
>New vtubers with an original song
Gee, I wonder which I'll click on.

>> No.3896054
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3896054

>>3895324
The reason is simple; Nijiniggers have all their views concentrated on fewer videos. There's dozens of every variation of HoloEN songs, which divides the views among those videos.

>> No.3896057

>>3896001

I've seen it a few times

>> No.3896087

>>3895324
Preview and song views matter, but debut views and stream numbers don't.
So numbers matter only when it's convenient nijifags?

>> No.3896089

>>3895324
heard the niji song is being used as an ad? Both suck, with the country roads one being a bit worse, so I don't really care either way.

>> No.3896149

>>3895324
I'd listen to an original song more than a meme song.

>> No.3896175

>>3895324
but seriously why ads approach? I feel like community/social media marketing is much better at getting new viewers.

>> No.3896188

>>3895699
'livers' as a term will never catch on.

>> No.3896194

>>3896087
a holofag made this thread dumbfuck. your all numberfags

>> No.3896211

>>3896175
But they did both

>> No.3896233

Are we gonna ignore the fact that you have to view a vod for like, 30 seconds before it can be counted as a view? Youtubers knows of this trick for years, some even have attempted to exploit it.

>> No.3896247

>>3896194
Oh yes yet another "it can't be nijifags, nijifags are all good people. It must be a falseflag" cope.

>> No.3896284

>>3895699
Oh wow I didn't realize livers can sing, maybe it's time I get some use out of this stupid organ since I gave up drinking years ago

>> No.3896348

>>3895882
same with hololive EN
but the girls are actually weebs

>> No.3896453

>>3895882
Absolutely nothing, they might as well have emblazoned the words "we want the hololive audience" on the NijiEN girl's foreheads. Lazulight is literally just a new hololive gen except without the connections, the clout, the comradery with the other holos, or really any reason to watch them over hololive.

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>>3895859
>300 dollars per thousand clicks
>they've spent at least 90k USD for those ads

good lord

>> No.3896579

>>3896456
Imagine Niji not being able to recuperate that amount. On the other side, we have tanigox have 100k subs showing offices.

>> No.3896686

>>3896579
I doubt that would happen. NijiEN isn't on HoloEN's level but they are still doing pretty decently by vtubing standards, and vtubers basically have no ongoing costs after the initial start up cost so they can just keep them streaming until they make it back

>> No.3896755
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3896755

>>3895324
>Using Youtube ad
>Just over 500k views
Kek
Embarrassing

>> No.3896762

They really need to stop tuning the voices so much. Basically only Gura sounds kike herself in that entire cover

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3896779

>>3896755

>> No.3896800

>>3895324
nijiEN's song was better
holoEN's cover was...
crap desu

>> No.3896803

>>3896779
>6 days
>Can't even beat Lua's numbers in 4 days
kek
What are they doing

>> No.3896844

Niji's marketing strategy is to consistently keep paying for ads on youtube.
I don't know how effective it is.

>> No.3896896

>>3896779
https://panora.tokyo/archives/25711

I will never not be angry that this site makes it seem like a fucking paid ad "beat" Gura in VOD views.

>> No.3896961

>>3895324
The Niji EN account launched alongside the debuts and posted this right away whereas the holo EN account was basically unknown before their song

>> No.3896972

>>3895432
Are they apearing on ads? I only ever saw the debut thing.

>> No.3896982

>>3896961
No it wasn't, the Nijisanji English channel has existed for over a year.

>> No.3896987

>>3896844
not effective in 2021 when Adblock is pretty common and also people treat youtube ads like a boogeyman or something that disturb viewing experience. They gotta up their fb/reddit engagement. people got famous thanks to those e.g. LSF streamers, r/videos babish

>> No.3896996

>>3896896
a 30second ad barely beat a 5 hour stream

>> No.3897011

>>3896896
You must really be looking for things to get angry over if you care about something like that.

>> No.3897013

>>3896996
Long streams actually get more views from people coming in and out of it.

>> No.3897030

>>3896247
Yes, now go back to global

>> No.3897059

>>3895324
Niji song is solid for what it is. The Country Roads instrumental mixing was trash and was recorded six months ago when Ina's singing was bad and Ame's was abysmal. And Kiara could probably sing decently but torpedoes it with her horrible chicken voice.
>>3895490
They could very well be buying views, but a lower like count should be expected anyway. Country Roads got very little traction for featuring five huge vtubers with several million combined subs, it would get a ton of likes because the song isn't good enough to listen to if you're not there for your oshi.
Meanwhile the niji song is a trio of literal whos with no established following that is exploding off of hype and quality alone. There is no diehard fanbase to spam it with likes. It's a lot like Gura's inflated sub count and relatively low live viewer/SC numbers, casuals who were only there for the funny A meme.

>> No.3897084

What makes it funnier is that anycancer's CEO claims that he wants "organic growth" as opposed to "forced growth" in an interview despite abusing Youtube ads for a lot of things, including Kagami's 3D debut and Kuzuha's King cover.
This company is a fucking joke.

>> No.3897110

>>3897084
Wait, what? They put ads for those? Holy fuck.

>> No.3897141

>>3897059
>low live viewer
But she's consistently been top 5 (for Holo) in number of live viewers, and she has 2x VOD viewerships compared to the rest of the Holotalents.

>low SC
I can concede to that. Despite having 2.5 millions subs, almost very few of them convert to paypigs. Gura definitely sucks when it comes to farming the dough, mostly because she doesn't pander to the paypigs like Rushia or Kiara does.

>> No.3897149

>>3897084
And where is your proof for any of this?

>> No.3897179

>>3897141
Gura's lower live views also contributes to her lower SC because you can't SC her if she's not live. She still has the highest amount of members of all Hololive tho

>> No.3897224 [DELETED] 

>>3897179
No that doesn't excuse her.

Examples like Rushia, Kiara and Flare have less viewers than her in any given day but they earn more in Superchat when Gura has

Low viewership =/= lower SC,

>> No.3897239

>>3897084
That's some bullshit you're spitting senpai

>> No.3897249

>>3895324
>the video appears on ads
>wonders why views are higher

>> No.3897256

>>3897179
No that doesn't excuse her.

Examples like Rushia, Kiara and Flare have less viewers than her in any given day but they still earn more in Superchat than Gura

Low viewership =/= lower SC

>> No.3897261

>>3897030
Cope seethe and dilate in that order

>> No.3897334

>>3895324
bots & ads

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>>3896456

>> No.3897376

>>3896453
Pomu has 10x higher powerlevels than anyone in HoloEN except Ina and she beats Ina anyways due to things like admitting to buying Choco doujins. Other two are legit kids.

It's a very different experience than watching HoloEN.

>> No.3897428

>>3895324
who cares about HoloEn channel lmao...
Like no one even knew it was official until the song dropped...

>> No.3897442

>>3895350
instant 100mil views

>> No.3897443

>>3895959
When you are putting those ads on hololive streams... yes

>> No.3897462

>>3895490
has to grasp for likes...

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>>3895571

>> No.3897515

>>3897376
Pomu not only liking Aikatsu, but throwing in a quick little "Watch Aikatsu" while listing her favorites won me over immediately.

>> No.3897541

>>3897515
Hi Walfie

>> No.3897576

>>3895957
ikr, they won't let Gura sing alone, because they know it would steal all of the attention from the rest of the girls

>> No.3897591

>>3897443
Still not sure what's wrong with that? They pay for the ad to be there same as anyone else does. Hololive benefits off it too.

>> No.3897597

>>3895967
felt wrong as soon as Kiara opened her mouth...

>> No.3897612

>>3897597
*ina

>> No.3897621

>>3896057
i have seen unicorns and pink elephants

>> No.3897627

>>3895432
Advertising your product, and directly advertising it to the people who would most enjoy it is scummy? The fuck are you on that's what the point of advertising is, the "little man" can't afford to advertise on sites like Youtube to begin with.

>> No.3897638

>>3897515
I like Idolmaster but hate all the yurufagging in Love Live. Should I give aikatsu a chance?

>> No.3897660

>>3896054
>The reason is simple; Nijiniggers have all their views concentrated on fewer videos. There's dozens of every variation of HoloEN songs, which divides the views among those videos.
what a cope, if song is new it will show up in everyones feeds, HoloEn is fucking dead channel, like who fucking knew about it before the song? Also the girls didn't say shit about cover dropping...

>> No.3897704

>>3897515
>Episodes: 178
Sorry Pomu I can't watch that...

>> No.3897720

>>3897638
Absolutely, OG Aikatsu is by far the best idol anime. I always recommend people to watch an episode a day to prevent burning out but if you feel like binging it don't let my advice stop you.
The CG for the shows is really bad at first but it gets really good, don't let that turn you off either.

>> No.3897726

>>3896755
more embarrassing is having 1mil subscribers and barely getting 200k on vods

>> No.3897737

>>3896762
Ame is deaf, Kiara can't sing in lower tune, Calli doesn't sing, Ina tries

>> No.3897762

>>3896982
well, that's even more embarasing... HoloEN truly was a fluke

>> No.3897823

>>3897013
>sure, that's why Gura get's 1mil on occasion...
People listen to vods like working...
I put a stream on second monitor and 3D model on main

>> No.3897860

>>3897141
dude, membership is a fucking thing...

>> No.3897865

>>3897726
Wrong. Viewership is spread across multiple games/streams.
For example: I don't watch Ame play Oblivion but I tune in to Supa Sunday. With Gura I tune in even more sporadically. Ina even less so as I only watch the drawing streams (I don't watch Kiara).

It's actually quite impressive all of them have a semi consistant live viewer base/VOD views for their respective audiences, considering the varied tastes.

>> No.3897878

>>3897179
see:
>>3897860

>> No.3897898

>>3896961
>>3896982
Yep, NijiEN channel was made in April 17, 2020, which is approximately a whole year before NijiEN.

It's where they put Official English Translations of Nijisanji clips and have uploaded a new video almost every week

HoloEN channel on the other hand only has the Teaser trailer, the Character CD teaser and the Country Roads cover

>> No.3897903

>>3897256
>Low viewership =/= lower SC
Imagine being upset that Gura doesn't whore herself for superchats...
Also memebership!

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>>3897612
no

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>>3897865
>I don't watch Kiara
based

>> No.3898013

>>3897860
Membership =/= Superchat

We're not arguing whether or not Gura earns more through Memberships than Superchat, we're arguing that Gura doesn't get Superchat in proportion to her subs and views

>> No.3898026

>>3895324
I have the youtube premium trial so I never saw the ad on my mobile (plus I have ad block on browser).

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>>3897591
and its not like they choose to put it on hololive videos, thats just how google ads work, they automatically advertise to relevant demographics, and unsuprisingly hololive watchers fall into that demographic.

>> No.3898057

>>3898013
>We're not arguing whether or not Gura earns more through Memberships than Superchat, we're arguing that Gura doesn't get Superchat in proportion to her subs and views
why tho? it all comes down to moonies anyway...

>> No.3898076

>>3897627
Here's the thing though: Youtube as a whole is algorithm based. Everyone from Youtubers to streamers plays the algorithm to get noticed. One of the reasons Hololive is in the position it is right now is because of virality/word of mouth.

Then you have Nijisanji who used paid ads to get the views. It feels like they're buying an unfair advantage.

Basically: Nijisanji is treating this like it's television when it's anything but. It's poor form. Content creators, backed by a corp or not should not rely on ads while they're on youtube. That's old media shit.

>> No.3898122

>>3897975
I don't see how. I just don't find her as entertaining as the others. Though I bow to the 5 hour supachat reads.

>> No.3898136

>>3897443
Holy underage, welcome to the real world.

>> No.3898156

>>3898076
Hololive has used youtube ads too you know

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>> No.3898167

>>3898076
>Supporting a branch is wrong and unfair
Cmon now...

>> No.3898176

>>3898122
you don't need to see how, it's based take anyway.

>> No.3898180

>>3897443
I mean of course they were doing to do that with Hololive streams. Did you think they would put their ads on actual Nijisanji videos? No, they want people to actually see the ads......

>> No.3898199

>>3898136
If this was any other industry this would follow a lawsuit. Can you imagine if Wendy was allowed to put its ads on youtubers videos that are sponsored by mcdonalds? Youtube would lose billions for allowing that

>> No.3898221

>>3898156
Never saw any. Were those ads like Niji (songs etc.) or was it for merch? EIther way it was scummy too if it was for the content and not the merch.

>> No.3898234

>>3898199
Chumbuddy please finish college so you understand how the real world works before running your mouth

>> No.3898248

>>3898199
it allowed and it is happening lmao

>> No.3898266

>>3898076
>Then you have Nijisanji who used paid ads to get the views. It feels like they're buying an unfair advantage.
This sounds like some grade schooler whine. They have the money and they have the resources so obviously they'll use it. Your moral ground on the subject doesn't matter.

>> No.3898272

>>3898076
>Youtube as a whole is algorithm based.
Yes as a whole the algorithm is more important, but a major part of why its that way is because of the fact that regular joes aren't going to pay for massive advertising campaigns.
You can say its "fake views" all you want but Nijisanji wants to get the Hololive audience that doesn't even know they're a thing, let alone that they just launched English Vtubers. The best way to do that is targeted ads at Hololive and other vtuber channels. This isn't "old media vs new media" its a big corporation doing what it needs to get grow its brand.
>>3898199
You're fucking retarded. That shit happens all the time across advertising. The sponsors of youtubers do not control the ads, they literally write a check and have said person make a segment in their video that has to follow some guide lines. While I can't speak from experience since I block all ads but I'm sure NordVPN has done some video ads on youtube, and one of them ended up on a video with a sponsorship segment by ExpressVPN.

>> No.3898276

>>3898199
Holy underage

>> No.3898278

>>3898167
I frown on using ads to promote content in general. If they paid for an ad for merch I wouldn't mind but they had so many other options. This one just feels lazy and kinda feels like they felt that NijiEN couldn't really carry because let's be fucking clear here. The buzz was there.

>> No.3898326

>>3898276
Just wait till summer starts Holofags will really be terrible then.>>3898278
I honestly think Cover gave you stockholm syndrome

>> No.3898355

>>3898326
Not really. Let me put it this way. Would you be fine with some random indie paying for ads to get their channel out there? That's my baseline.

>> No.3898375

niggers made it into morality thread over using ads and not discuss with song is better...

>> No.3898377

>>3898326
I mean I'm more into Hololive but that was the most retarded take I ever saw.

>> No.3898401

>>3898355
Yes? Do you know how often Ads are used in the entertainment industry in general? Are you okay with hololive doing sing til a certain milestone streams that encourage fans to bot and make multiple accounts?

>> No.3898407

>>3898375
One is a cover that lay on someone's hard drive for six months, the other is an original made to promote a new branch. On that basis alone there is really nothing to compare

>> No.3898415

>>3898375
I kinda like the NijiEN original but it's not as remarkable/shareable as Mori's nigger music or Gura's debut city pop cover.

>> No.3898437

>>3898221
Both and in-between. They advertise the concerts with YouTube ads normally, if they are in games or something those are usually youtube ads but done by the games company and then there's also been examples of individual channels using videos as ads too korone had one last year.

>> No.3898440

>>3898401
Not really their fault fanboys are fucking spastic. Botting fucks over the streamer in the long run

>> No.3898463

>>3898437
I mean the concerts are kinda weird because they're usually not free? Unless they advertise the other ones too.

>> No.3898466

>>3895324
Niji is promoting their song, Hololive is trying to hide it.

>> No.3898471

>>3898415
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T7Mt9zRnZo
this is my head canon for her first "offical" cover

>> No.3898512

>>3898440
It is their fault because they're the ones making the milestone endurance streams.

>> No.3898553

>>3895324
I didn't listen the the niji song but that country roads cover wasn't that great. Gura was the best part and Kiara bombed hard. Mori also only had a single line in it.

>> No.3898562

>>3898512
Unless they're directly saying "bot my sub count" you're just ascribing malice to where is none. Not their fault some autistic saviour fags can't handle the thought of their Oshi streaming for longer than 2 hours. Looking at you "go to bed" fags.

>> No.3898580

>>3898553
You'd think they'd know that letting a rapper sing and not rap is a bad idea.

>> No.3898595

I listened to the hololive song once and never again but I've listened to the nijisanji song at least 2 or 3 times a day since it was released now. It's quite catchy.

>> No.3898602

>>3898580
Mori sang better than everyone besides Gura. I rather have an original song next though.

>> No.3898637

>>3898602
Gura would do great covering some Jazzy piece...

>> No.3898656

>>3898602
That's the funny part. By all accounts Mori's singing should suck ass.
I really want Ame and Ina to get better. I could die happy then

>> No.3898694

Based.
Fuck HOLOfags and their whore idols, they've been bullying NIJI for so long that karma should be fucking them to hell by now.
Good riddance.
NIJI SUPREMACY BEGINS NOW

>> No.3898821

>>3898694
I really can't imagine being a Nijinigger. The inferiority complex you guys carry must be overwhelming.

>> No.3898850

>>3895324
>blocks your path
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RxlzJWWzdY

>> No.3898857

>>3898694
He actually wrote the words
>NIJI SUPREMACY
over a promotional song. I'll become a tribal fuck just to spite your autistic ass.

>> No.3898889

He's replying to himself right? Hololive fans don't actually take bait that obvious?

>> No.3898962

>>3898821
Most real Nijisanji fans just enjoy watching their livers like any other vtuber fan. It's holotards that go out of their way to tell them how much they suck.

>> No.3898984

>>3898857
based autismo tribal man.

>> No.3899009

>>3898199
>>3897443
Do you not know how ads on youtube work? Nijisanji doesn't choose specific videos to put their ads on, they choose a target demographic based off their interests and location, and the algorithm handles the rest. Hololive isn't even a category on the demographic list, they probably choose "likes anime, interested in livestreams, and in America" and it just so happens that's the hololive audience

>> No.3899029

>>3898962
Please stop trying to push the term liver, it doesn't work in English

>> No.3899053
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3899053

>>3898962
It's only natural for the strong to bully the weak. Also........
>livers

>> No.3899083

>>3898694
>>3898821
>>3898857
samefag.

>> No.3900223

>>3898889
Nope HOLOfags are just THAT dumb.
I almost pity their whore idols for having such retarded fans

>> No.3900281

Nijis is pretty bad overall but has some good parts like the "main" part where theyre all singing.

Holo's is just shit all around and is on a channel nobody watches or is promoted

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3900489

>>3896755
Kinda funny how that chuuba >>3895796 got 1.6 million on the Spanish introduction video, but didn't manage to transfer any of the success onto her streams. She might sit on 80k+ subs now, but engangement is abyssmal with many of her recent streams hitting not even 4 digits.

What went wrong, anons?

>> No.3900647

>>3900489
>apex
Yep that's your problem right there.

>> No.3900648

>>3900223
>>3900281
oh no no no holobros... we're getting bullied

>> No.3900657

>>3897442
u wish

>> No.3900695

>>3897737
You must be living in stone age, Calli can sing, Ina can also sing if she practise for it and kiara's voice doesnt fit the song

>> No.3900909

>>3900657
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWNvlyycWzQ
K

>> No.3900924

>>3900695
oh i see chimpkens are waking up

>> No.3901784

>>3895324
Don't forget tokyo ghoul's KING cover is gonna surpass moris RIP soon too

>> No.3902103

>>3895324
Eh, just karma. The positions of 8 months ago have been reversed.

>> No.3902210

>>3895324
HoloEn made a boring, uninspired, mediocre cover, and 3/5 of the girls can't sing for shit. Get over it.

>> No.3902306

Will you suck my cock? I'l suck my own cock. I'll suck me reeeeeaaalll gooooodd

>> No.3902335

>>3895324
It's a better song, so it's deserved.

>> No.3902500

>>3895699
I know things can get pretty wild on 4channel, but did you really have to resort to calling the HoloEN girls "dog livers?" What kind of monster would eat dog livers anyway?

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>>3897621

>> No.3903062

>>3897443
You realize they're almost definitely just tagging the ad with "Vtuber" or some shit and the algorithm is putting it on, you know, the most popular vtuber videos, right? Actually you seem stupid enough that you probably don't.

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3903094

>>3898057
Because we can measure SC with actual real data. The only way to know how many membership a channel has is with community post votes, which is unreliable.

>> No.3903125

>>3895324
I like the arrangement of Country Roads, the poppy version is a nice change, it's just a shame that it was recorded at a point where no training arcs had been completed and their equipment wasn't great. When even the talent don't like the end result (according to Kiara) you know it's a bad sign.
In the other hand, despite the lyrics of DCL sounding like they've been translated into Japanese then back again, the song works much better as a group effort.

>> No.3903126

>>3895324
A good new song beats a lazy cover of a tired meme song? Who would've thunk it OPchama?

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3903190

>>3903094

>> No.3903223
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3903223

>>3903190

>> No.3903251
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3903251

>>3895324
They promoted the Niji song more than its own new talents

>> No.3903278

>>3903190
on no no no KFP bros we got too cocky!

>> No.3903307

>>3903223
What is this image trying to prove? Different videos will get different longevity. Comparing one random video to another random video doesn't prove anything.

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3903318

>>3903190
Didn't know that. I was stuck on the old ways, number fagging has really advanced to the next level...

>> No.3903410

>>3903307
>he doesn't know

>> No.3903654

>thing I like get big number
>make up reasons why thing is good

>thing I no like get big number
>make up reasons why thing is actually bad
numberfagging is just astrology for men

>> No.3903743

>>3897141
Relatively low, anon. Compared to the subcount of other holos, she's got a low viewer ratio.
She's got 2-2.5x the subs as her fellow EN, but she doesn't get 2-2.5x the live viewers.

>> No.3904098

>>3903654
spreading rrats is also just gossip for men

>> No.3904223

it's hardly a meme song, they wanted to do the senzawa thing,but ust went generic and boring. No one cares

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3904797

>>3903743
What?

>> No.3904917

>>3895324
Even Hololive fans agree that the cover was ass, when criticism is being upvoted in reddit you know shit's hit the fan

>> No.3904927

>>3897597
I thought this was the usual anti-chicken post but holy shit wtf kiara

>> No.3904972

>>3904797
the kryptonite in .png

>> No.3905361

Even HoloID is better than HoloEN, kek

>> No.3905609

>>3896972
yes the music became an ad everytime i would watch a hololive video their music would always come up as an ad

>> No.3905857

>>3904797
how are takos so powerful

>> No.3909647

>>3895324
Yeah, I mean what do you expect? The country roads cover wasn't good. The mixing was trash and Ame was turned into a fucking vocaloid. I know that she wasn't a very good singer when it was recorded, but autotuning a voice to hell doesn't make up for that. If anything it makes it worse.

>> No.3910352

>>3902500
>What kind of monster would eat dog livers anyway?
the bugs

>> No.3910830

>>3897084
I really want to see the source of that claims only to laugh at them harder

>> No.3910862

>>3897515
does she browses /vp/ as well?

>> No.3910934

That Country Roads cover was terrible. Especially when Takamori sang it. Either one of them didnt get the memo to time the singing, or the sound editor majorly screwed it up. And considering they recorded in December, that's a major yabe

>> No.3911512

>>3895324
anything>autotuned country roads

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>> No.3912016

>>3910934
Kiara said none of the ENs had any control or input whatsoever in anything. They just were told to sing and record the entire song and send it in. Everything you hear, from who sang what verse, to the mixing, was up to whoever put the song together. So it's 100% on cover for making it shit. Kiara was not happy how it turned out and wants to redo it properly

>> No.3912040

>>3911774
Why do you keep posting this? Gura already broken nijis peak concurrent viewers count.

>> No.3912087

holomyth cover was shit.
t. chumbud

>> No.3912209

>>3900909
>Casually avoid mentioning that isnt a pop'ish version like the shit Cover did

>> No.3912239

Anything> FUCKING POP COUNTEY ROADS
Why the fuck they didnt make it acoustic

>> No.3913595

>>3912040
Thats the joke, brainlet.

>> No.3919462

>>3895324
Nijisanji EN has one (1) good singer in their group, just like a real idol group. Which is still one more than Hololive EN has.

>> No.3919541

>>3912016
>Kiara said
Why you believe her lie?

>> No.3919582

>>3895350
Doesn't help that the autotune was set on overkill on her side as well.

>> No.3919622

Diamond City Lights is okay and had advertisement. The Country Roads cover fucking sucks since only 2 of them can sing, only one well, and they music was some god awful reimagining.
>inb4 fuck of nijinigger le epin $103.50
I like hololive a lot and that is most of what I watch.

>> No.3919638

>>3910934
I heard it was recorded it october though?

>> No.3919691

>>3919541
Ame confirmed all of this. Gura also did. Watch streams.

>> No.3919737

>>3919622
No, I think most holofans can agree the cover was shit. They can do better and have done better. The fact that they have done better makes this entire thread combined with the niji song being an ad makes this thread weak bait. I always make sure to sage while in bait threads.

>> No.3919837

>>3895324
The day I opened up memory's door

>> No.3920600

>>3897141
>>3897256
>doesn't pander to the paypigs like Kiara
but still outperform ? go and see for yourself >>2742848
also Gura doesn't even read superchat at this point and has done a LOT of unmonetized
stop saviourfagging for Gura already jesus

>> No.3920650

>>3897903
Flare doesn't either but she gets them. She doesn't do GFE and isn't seiso either.

>> No.3927300

>>3895324
Both these songs suck absolute ass

>> No.3927418

>>3895324
kiara tanked holo en
very sad! many such cases.

>> No.3928128

>>3895324
Country Roads was just a lazy ass cover with shit tier editing, especially the Mori/Kiara part.
Would've been better with just Gura signing folk songs.

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