/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>3940381
>forced by management
>hololive

>>3940381
honeymoon period over probs. They seem the most similar to each other of the EN team so if there are going to be friends then it's decent odds it's them. Management might be worried about how their audiences are pretty similar (s i m p s) so they might be testing what happens if they have them keep a distance and not cannibalise each others viewer base. Not scientific but it's my luke-warm take

yeah theyre lovers

I think Ame got a bit sick of being known as just Gura's friend so she has been a bit distant.

dykes

Yeah

Ame's entire design is literally an OC Donut Steel of HER. I'm sure they're really good friends if Gooruh let Ame use her OC and Ame being willing to base her persona off Gooruh's OC

They may have been friends since before Hololive.
Anyway Ame clearly started wanting to keep her distance due to obnoxious Gurameschizos (which are 99% chumflakes, NOT teamates).

And if you want a rrat, I say Gura's infatuation with her is creepy and Ame is creeped out by it.

>>3940883
shit this is some good lore mate. Thanks for sharing.

>>3940381
Shit, senpai, you used the wrong image and thread title if you wanted to talk about takamori

Ame is strait
Gura is turbogay

>>3940883
>HER was the original Ame before the timelines split
We're reaching Mario levels of lore here

>>3940947
>Anyway Ame clearly started wanting to keep her distance due to obnoxious Gurameschizos
when did she say this?

>>3941155
not him but she has said in one of her streams before, think it was one of her marshmallow streams, that she got a lot of questions about gura and that annoyed her because she didn't want to be known just as her friend

>>3940883
I belieb this rrat

Gura sniffed Ame's pits while she was half asleep. Ame woke up and it has been weird between them ever since. Gura was also horrible at hiding what she was doing, since she was grinding a pillow at the same time as she was pressing her nose into Ame's prickly pit. Ame tried to make a joke, to smooth over the weird atmosphere
>Yoo I uh.. for a moment I thought it was Bubba... haha...
Gura didnt take the hint, she was practically frozen, still computing the smell and texture. All of her attention was focused on her rhinencephalon, so she didnt even notice that she was wetting Ame's pillow, which was still firmly pushing into her crotch.
>Can I have a taste?
This prompted Ame to basically yell "NO", waking Gura from her lustful stupor. Seeing her slowly realise the gravity of the situation, Ame took pity on the miserable little dyke and her disgusting smell fetish. Gura was caught between pure shock and holding back tears.
>Let's just not talk about it, alright? Imma go walk the dog, wanna come with?
Gura shook her head and just mumbled
>Breakfast...
Ame took the hint and replied
>Sure, the kitchen's yours, just dont make a... mess.
Her eyes wandered towards the wet spot on her favourite pillow.
>And uh.... just throw the pillow into the laundry bin once you're done...
She quickly threw on some sweatpants and a hoodie and left the room, to leave Gura and let her calm down. She swore to never bring this up again.

https://youtu.be/DkvVS3C0hdY?t=12207
Why did she do it bros?

>>3941353
Is Gjra actually a lesbian/bi? I can neber tell with all the yuri pandering bullshit. Ok simple and clear, does gura sexually like other women?

It's clearly just a bit

>>3940947
there is pretty good evidence of them being friends before hololive, see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsIfqLPtMow
Most people point to the fact that they followed each other on twitter but that always seemed pretty weak to me, since these streamers follow plenty of people even if they're not good friends with them.
But in this clip it shows they're actually on good enough terms to talk directly with each other and make jokes

None of them give a shit about each other unless they knew each other before Hololive, and even then, certainly not in a romantic way.

A sufficiently convincing rrat MIGHT be able to convince me there's one or two real JP couples, but nothing in EN.

>>3941556
Yes she is, I've been letting her sniff my used pantsu after the heartbreak over the ame thing

>>3941556
Come on anon, of course she is not

>>3941653
I don't think a keyfabe bit is hard evidence

>>3941556
When the talent is almost forbidden to sexualise any male for fear of alienating the fanbase, I think any sexual preference expressed is going to be unreliable. Anyone who claims to know is chatting shit.

>>3941735
How can you be sure tho, she is comfortable doing the whole "xyz female chuuba is my wife".

>>3940381
Why are you asking this question? They speak English for a maggot like you, you should be able to comprehend and make a deduction yourself.

>>3941767
I might buy it from some of them who can easily express their "type" with no delay, and without being so specific that they're clearly pandering to a popular ship.

Miko liking big titty blondes, for example. It's possible she really does like girls.

>>3941768
Girls are less self-conscious and insecure about seeming gay than guys are, and even then, anyone who has had close friends knows that making gay jokes is just a normal part of banter and doesn't really mean anything. A straight girl will tell you if she thinks a girl is pretty and may even flirt with another girl -- that doesn't mean she would ever actually do anything sexual with them. Female sexuality is just different.

>>3941767
>he doesn't know

>>3941878
>>3941735
Hey, I was waiting for the incel cope

>>3941735
You seem very eager to make it sound true, anon, despite having nothing to substantiate it. Why is that? There isn't really any reason to assume Gura is straight in any way other than your wishful thinking. But even if she's straight, which she certainly doesn't want you to assume because it's disrespectful, she'll never want to be anywhere close to you because the disgust would be so strong. You know it, anon, I hope you grow disillusioned with your fantasies soon.

>>3941556
please take a look at this picture and tell me with a straight face that Gura isn't into women

>>3942743
everyone likes tits anon, even straight girls.

>>3942743
You don't have to be into women to appreciate them being sexy.

>>3941739
>>3941653
https://youtu.be/l5WIG1onKSk?t=936
not kayfabe, gura also confirmed

>>3941556
Probably not. She just likes to tease chat. Just saying, her sudden "holy biceps" comments about men seem more genuine.

>>3940381
They like each other more than they let on. Ame probably asked Gura for space so the shippers would calm tf down.

>>3943525
If Gura likes her more than she lets on how much does she fucking love her? She won't ever shut up about her.

>>3942374
Statistically speaking she is most likely straight.

The internet really fuck ups with perception of life if you don't go out often. Look at /b/ or /pol/, you would think the world was full of trannies and black people but i haven't even met one transexual in my over 20+ years of life. And like, 2 blacks.

I think the burden of proof would fall on the "shes gay" camp and not the "shes straight" because the default is being straight.

>>3943525
Ame asked for space from reading superchats, too.
Pretty sure Ame is just the kind of person who eventually snaps if she has to do something she dislikes for too long.

>>3943897
If you talk to actual girls often and tried to understand them you'd see their thought process is different and you can't simply project your reaction towards male homosexuals onto them. Scientifically speaking, your sexual preference is not very important on the receiving end. The percentage is increasing because people are less afraid of being labeled, and that label serves little purpose for women anyway.

Also, the anime culture emphasizes on girls. It's always about sexualizing and idealizing girls. Especially if you want to be a weeb like Gura, you have to be interested in that and committed enough to act like a male otaku. So you would know where she falls on the spectrum. Besides, modern girls like Gura, especially those who are interested in anime, would find it quite offensive when you default them to being straight.

>>3944529
That chart might just tells me lesbians like looking at lesbiab porn. Do women consume pornography at the same rate. Women porn is often different, not video but rather stuff like books, think 50 Shades Of Gray. We would need mire numbers, that chart is pretty emoty as is. Think about the type if people who even have a pornhub account.

Ame literally has a boyfriend.

>>3945468
yeah, I am her boyfriend but I still let her have sex with gura when we have our threesomes

You guys act like if two talents dont interact for more than a week they hate each other. For months on end Ame and Gura collabed. I'm sure they wanted to do their own things for a bit or just didnt have schedules match up. Ame had to pack up and move and then her house had a pipe break and then she got some infection.
Of course /vt/ just wants rrats so here it is: Gura is madly in love with Ame, but Ame just considers her a close friend. Because of this Gura is trying to distance herself in order to save their friendship.

>>3944529
There's a huge difference between watching porn and having fantasies to being part of a real sexual act. Homosexuality, overall is not a common thing, i'm not saying is wrong or that people who do it will go to hell, i don't care. Just on the most technical way it is rare, in the same way heterochromia is rare, or being left handed is rare, etc, etc.

What porn is watched doesn't mean anything, by that same chart most men would be fucking their own mothers by your own argument.

>>3945468
Newfagchama...

>>3944529
>Gura would be offended if you think she's straight!
why are lgbt schizos like this?

>>3946244
go outside, chud

>>3945779
>Gura is madly in love with Ame, but Ame just considers her a close friend.
this is what is generally believed, but please explain why in the jackbox collab Ame rejects gura right in the beginning but then is so obsessed with her for the rest of the stream that every single one of her jokes/drawings are gura related?
She seems equally interested in Gura, just too embarrassed to admit it.

https://youtu.be/JgW-7lHQBZw?t=558

>>3940381
they are catty to eachother on stream and they keep doing mishearing comedy they are tom and jerry really.

>>3940520
Her being Gura's onahole is the only noteworthy thing about Ame

>>3946580
Ame is definitely the one fucking gura though. It's no secret that Gura is a little brat that enjoys running around the house waiting for someone to catch her and pin her to the floor.

>>3940520
But isn't she just a gura's friend?

>>3946417
says the one using porn statistics to talk about a fake persona of an anime girl

>>3946580
>>3946792
She's the best entertainer of EN. Most creative, most technically capable, and clearly an influential figure amongst the group considering they can never stop talking about her.

>>3946417
went outside and all i saw was some fag being thrown off a building.

>>3940381
>Ame boasts Gura's numbers during podcast

I guess this is it boys

>>3940520
Call that Okayu syndrome.

>>3940381
>"gurame"
it's amesame, you falseflagging faggot. if you want to shitpost at least get it right.

>>3946915
I thought we were talking about Ame not Kiara

>>3950204
nobody talks about Kiara, even Mori who they tried to force a ship with brings up Ame more often

>>3950078
okayu is actually though, ame is just a smelly retard

>>3950340
*actually cool

Most of the people in this thread have never had a female friend and it shows. They're both straight, do your fucking reps.

>>3950634
we know ame is straight but there's no evidence of gura

>>3941556
certain pieces of unconfirmed doxx suggest shes bi. But its worth noting that i havent yet taken my multivitamin today

>>3950078
Korone and Okayu actually care about each other a lot, and each of their fans actually respect the other.

Ame clearly has her own things that she wants to do with her career, and she can't do that if she's just constantly being harassed about Gura by Gura fans.

>>3954882
He's that one guy that has been using the same stock reply "you never had female friends" followed by "they are all straight" ever since EN came out. It's a very dedicated cope, and sad nonetheless.

>>3946417
Go back to your shithole, reddit nigger.

>>3946580
Based.

>>3940381
EN girls don't like eachother no. Probably most of japanese girls don't either but in their case it's a little different, In japan everything is dense so they are more used to dealing with a lot more people.

>this thread
I dunno, Anon. Maybe you should, you know, post more AmeSame art?

>>3943897
>calling the silent generation "traditionalists"

>>3955846
Nigger that's the first time I've posted this. If somebody else has before it's because there's easily searchable evidence that can't be posted by board rules. Take your /u/ cope elsewhere.

Why are some people so jealous of the fact that they have the best chemistry in EN? If you want to see something that's really forced, then take a look at Kiara and Mori.

Note: "Best chemistry" doesn't imply that they are a flawless duo, who can read each other's minds and are the absolute pinical of friendship. It simply means it's the best EN have got right now. Gen2 could come around with 2 holos with absolutely fantastic chemistry together.

Ame lives rent free in my Oshi's head and that's okay

Gura lives rent free in my Oshi's head and that's okay

>>3964658
>searchable evidence
Your doxx shit is not real. You're a creepy schizo who searches the girls' personal information in depth and you expect others to believe you have female friends. Holy shit, please tell me you're just LARPing as an incel.

>>3955315
>certain pieces of unconfirmed doxx suggest shes bi.
those same doxx claimed her mother was dead, which is objectively false.

I don't think i've seen anything that indicates she's a lesbian, she shows WAY too much interest in men, it's plausible however that she may be bi or bi curious.

Look at the rhombic slope of her forehead. Look at the small cranial capacity compared to her brutish face. Gura is a thug bred for violent conflict. She’s an aggressive ape. She is not particularly intelligent, nor is she capable of complex abstract thought. She has but one power: ruthless aggression, tempered into "competitiveness" by contemporary law and social customs. We see this moronic brute rise up to the top of Vtubing only through her thoughtless, instinctive hind brain actions. She has no introspection and has nothing to contribute; she only wants to win. She cares about nothing but subscriptions and superchats. Everything she does is fake: every opinion, every cackle, and every crocodile tear. Gura hates her audience, hates you, and even hates life itself. If you came across her in the Paleolithic forests, she would kill you just to watch you die. She is a loathsome creature who senses that her kind is not long for this world of Vtubing. She is the last of a dying breed of beast. Her kind will be gone soon. For now, merely look, listen, and wait. Observe the thrashing. Observe the hypocrisy of a slow-moving mind attempting to exploit ever changing cultural memes and trends. She will box herself in. She will find himself cornered by her poorly chosen social moves. Then, she will lash out. Cancelled by her own idiocy. Cancelled by her inferior genetics. Cancelled by time itself. The primordial simian. The genetic dead end eaten by her own ego. Eaten by her desire to exploit simps. Gone forever. Purged from the collective consciousness. Leaving behind nothing but a digital artifact, already forgotten.

>>3940883
That is a powerfull rrat you got there

>>3965855
>Gura
>shows WAY too much interest in men

wut

>>3941556
All women are bisexual by nature

>>3966920
thats what they all say becuase the idea of kissing another girls and/or sucking her boobs seems hot, but when they actually have to go down on a muffin they think twice

>>3968360
If you're a guy and you would kiss other guys but wouldn't suck their dick, no one would think twice about calling you gay.

>>3966473
I didn't know about that but it's real and actually crazy how similar it is to Watson's design.

>>3969177
>>3940883
To be fair, Sherlock Holmes style outfits are pretty generic enough to be copied for any detective character. Take pic related, which was a 5 second search on google, stick a tie and short hair on her and you have the same thing.

>>3942743
Ive got one word for you, jay

This thread is extra hilarious now that Gura's member karaoke is going on and she's said that both Skyfall and Electric Love remind her of Ame before singing them.

They were friendly in the same way you were friendly with the kid who sat next to you on the bus ride to school. When EN started Kiara immediately fired up the dyke act with Mori pairing them off while Ina was a bit dull. Gura and Amelia teamed up put of necessity. Now that things have shaken out they are behaving more naturally and are more distant.

>>3940883
This is a rrat king

Give me the rrat on why Ame and Gura always talk about how each other smells in some way whenever they collab?

>>3970476
And now chug jug

>>3940520
Lmao gurame cucks unironically destroyed their own ship by being such a bunch of obsessed faggots.

Gura once randomly started saying "ame ame ame" when running around in minecraft on her solo stream.

>>3941141
well there is this

>>3940381
Probably Ame got tired of being known as Gura's girlfriend

>>3973465
they are disgusting coomers

>>3974564
who makes those and where do I find more?

>>3973465
they can start a good manzai comedy from it.

ame your feet smell like buritos
gura no , let me smell
gura no i smell clean
ame wow thats good
gura s*ck

>>3975403
https://twitter.com/mayuchii21/media

its only a 2 part-er though

>>3974564
Ame smoking is kind of hot.

>>3974564
>>3975863
I love this really melodramatic fan-fiction tier stuff. Its like a guilty pleasure

>>3940883
This is one of the Mightiest Rats i have ever seen

>>3975863
>>3974564
this is genuingl goid

>>3940381
>Does Gura like Ame?
Gura just said on today’s stream that this song reminds her of Ame:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfLKpPlXKE0

>>3940520
Her and Ame talked alot off stream but when Ame was moving she really didn't have time to talk much and was still settling in.

But yeah Ame talked about how she didn't want to be just known as Gura's girlfriend since they flooded her with things about their relationship, constantly telling her about Gura's status, trying to make her go to her in minecraft when she was playing other games or doing something else and just being obnoxious overall. All of this was still pretty early on though since this was also during the time of Gura's("Guys if you go watch this person please don't spam raid." Moments later in said other chat "RAID." but a good amount seemed to have calmed down or left now "as well as Ame's terrible chat that was almost as bad) but yeah they've always liked each other but things were just getting way out of hand

But yeah they still have a great relationship and seem to be hanging out alot based of her latest members stream and the Fish Tank pretty much shows just how great they are still

>>3969481
they litterally call each other "buddy"
have fun cuckfag

>>3941485
I dunno, what's a plural of "moose?" Meese?

>>3978034
Moosen

>>3942743
There’s something so uncanny about Gura blushing. I remember one time a couple months into her debut someone threw a random compliment then she looked away for a second then her face started blushing then she looked back at the chat then said some bashful reply then looked away again for a second then stopped blushing then looked back at the chat.
I’m not saying she isn’t good at what she does, in fact, I’m saying quite the opposite. 90% of the time Gura is fully aware and in control of what she’s doing.

>>3940883
Jolly good rrat here

>>3941353
Is this pasta? Either way, pretty based.

>>3981703
not pasta

>>3966725
you've never seen her squee over dante?

>>3981792
>always wanted to be a cowboy
>used this pic as a thumbnail
a self insert ? probably
anyway we will never know and i dont care that much

>>3981792
Yes, but that is nothing compares to how much she squeals over Ame.

>>3944529
KEK! Troons are bottom of the barrel for men and not even in the conversation for women HA!

>>3981748
Fuck off dyke.

>>3978034
That was a lot more subtle than what Gura did

>>3974245
>randomly
Found the clipnigger

>>3977573
Ok after seeing this I'm fully on board. Call me a schizo but Gura is 100% thirsty for Ame

>>3987225
yeah, it was preceded by her gushing about something Ame said months ago.

>>3994949
>was preceded by her gushing about something Ame said months ago.
I didn't know Ame talked about her plans for the podcast months ago. I knew you /u/schizos were mentally ill

>>3974245
Gura says Ame's name a lot for no reason. They're so cute together.

>>3950078
>Okayu played Donkey Kong 64
>Korone didn't play Donkey Kong 64
That's one thing that stands out about Okayu

>>3977811
yurifagging and fujoshittery should automatically get you placed in an asylum staffed and populated by your own sex

>>3940381
While I think they’re both bi I also think Gura is genuinely somewhat in love with Ame subconsciously. Gura has been a lonely and depressed alcoholic for years and she explained in a stream before Ame giving minor praise filled her with absolute joy, Gura latched onto her joy and eventually formed a loving obsession over Ame that built slowly and slowly over time. Gura’s constant mentioning of Ame in solo streams or for situations where you wouldn’t think she would shows how much she’s obsessed with Ame. Ame on the other hand is likely just not infatuated like Gura is, perhaps she has some like of Gura but nothing romantic. They have a very natural relationship and still talk a lot behind the scenes, talking openly and collabs were mainly ruined by shipping schizos. Tldr Gura loves Ame romantically while Ame doesn’t love Gura that way and Gura would totally pull a PekoMiko sleepover on Ame if given the chance.

>>3940381
They're friends and nothing else

>>3941685
Kek

>>3940381
They like each other, but they love ina

>>3981792
Everyone squeals for dante

>>3996362
Wait, what happened in the pekomiko sleep over

>>3997419
They fell out with each other.

>>3997419
I think Miko tried groping peko at night and she screamed or something, but that's just what I've gathered from people talking about it here. If I'm wrong I'm sure someone will correct me

>>3997419
>>3997591
Miko and Pekora had sex that was forced by Miko and caused a deep hatred of her from Pekora.

>>3998310
What makes everyone think that’s what happened? I’ve only ever heard about that with marine and shion

>>3998621
Miko is a raging lesbian and the extremely popular ship went radio silent after that sleepover.

>>3950078
If you're a clipwatcher maybe, but fatcat actually built a solid niche for herself and is very well connected beyond Okakoro (also remember she used to be the popular one before EOPs started pouring in)

Ame didn't had the time to do the same before she got stuck with a ship, so it's only natural for her to try and branch out. I'm sure she'll make it soon enough.

Gura and ame dated before they made it to hololive, hence why they know each other

>>4001348
>Gura and ame dated
only in gura's dreams

>>3940520
I am still seething that statistically most people only know my oshi for being "the girl that wants to get into the pants of the soundclud-rapper"
WHY WOULD YOU BE OKAY WITH THAT YOU ARE SABOTAGING YOURSELF STOP IT!!

>>4001348
that's dumb, they don't even live in the same time zone.
Ame showed up in one of HER streams once and she's been fantasizing about living together ever since. eventually concocting a plan to get them both hired by Cover so she would have an excuse to talk to her.

>>4005715
Are you talking about Kiara? She did that shit to herself

>>4007344
>She did that shit to herself
that is why I am so mad

>>3944322
This is really spot on. You can also tell when she gets annoyed with or drops jokes that get too dragged out.

I think they're legitimately friends. But any yuri between them is just keyfabe.

I always get sibling vibes from the 2 of them, with Ame being the more responsible older sister figure. It sounds like at least Ame mind sharing her room mate's life with Gura - like when Gura asked for pictures and videos of Ame's fish tank and shrimp giving birth. Ame sounded reluctant at first but in her own superchat stream she was determined to follow through with that. So yeah, Ame might want to distance herself a bit from Gura because of the community but I think they want to be friends outside of hololive biz.

>>4010678
or maybe that's because gura is a schizo that literally said her first name on stream and when ame pretended not to hear she doubled down and said it again

>>3941141
all we know is that at some point before debut some one 'switched' with some one else.

>>4014699
Don't forget the other switch too.

>>4013859
Wait, when did that happen. Any source?

>>3940883
Finally a good rrat.

>>3981748
it is now

>>4015214
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkvVS3C0hdY&t=12207s

>>4015566
Gura is such a brat
I want to pin her to the floor so bad

>>4006811
So Ame is the one who is actually obsessed with Gura and elaborately set everything up and than seduce Gura and than give her the cold shoulder just so Gura would become obsessed with her.