/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Because she's a woman

>>3939544
Marine is also a woman and several other Holo girls who took a break

Morning sickness from being pregnant with my child, cut her some slack.

>>3939508
Because her manager got inside her head and made her believe that she would lose everything if she took a break.

why was there a lot of trolls in that stream?

ugly whore

>>3939508
She need the superchat money man. Her boyfriend want a new sportcar and a new house.

>>3939508
Crying over some stupid shit.

APEX needs to be banned in Japan.
It's literally cocaine tier

>>3939580
Even her fans are tired of her being addicted to APEX anon.
A lot of the """trolls""" are probably alt accounts of her own fans

nihao

>>3939646
>>3939673
She hasn't played Apex in over a month

>>3939508
> An awkward, anxiouss, introvert klutz with low self-esteem.
> Implied to be at least slightly on spectrum of autism.
> This mess of a inner struggles got a chance in life to be somebody and do something.
> She puts a lot of energy and work into it.
> Despite all her smaller and bigger problems she actually become decent streamer, singer and gamer and attracted way over million people.

Dunno, maybe simply she loves her work and feels very bad about not being able to do it, even if only for a week? And it triggers her anxiety and all the bad shit in her little, onion-shaped head? And she's genuinely afraid to lose all of it?

Dunno, considering that it's Aqua i feel like it's totally understandable reaction. Remember that this is the girl that almost had breakdown when despite giving from herself more than 100% she lost against Suisei BY 1 POINT during SMK tournament.

>>3939594
I do. I admit it.

>>3939750
She HAS been playing it. Offstream.

>>3939766
>> Implied

>>3939799
Well, it was never stated officially but any person with more than 3 functional braincells probably figured it out...

>>3939795
proof?

>>3939508
She's autistic and probably views not working like every other jap.

>>3939795
She hasn’t.
https://apex.tracker.gg/apex/profile/origin/AqukinnMaster/matches
If she would have changed the name of her account, someone else would be using it now.

>>3939508
Menhera.
Please understand.

>>3939848
>Has to have her mom with her to go to the doctors
>People have to order food for her while being at a restaurant
>Can barely speak above a whisper when talking to someone in person
>The only exception to above is Shion

>>3939848
>>3939864
search your heart you know it to be true

>>3939896
that proves she's been playing apex?

>>3939868
It's peak anon that it didn't even cross your mind that she might like streaming THAT much kek

>>3939922
I replied to a wrong anon, FUCK

>>3939939
Fans sure resembles their oshi.

>>3939939
kek

>>3939939
should've left it, it was pretty funny

>>3939960
>TFW I am actually a retard when it comes to numbers

Undiagnosed dyscalculia is a bitch

>>3939573
Her manager isn't wrong. Long breaks cause drop in views because ppl go and watch other ppl

>>3939766
At least, she's not a crazy self-absorbed narcissistic bitch

>> Remember that this is the girl that almost had breakdown when despite giving from herself more than 100% she lost against Suisei BY 1 POINT during SMK tournament.

I can still hear the scream, when she saw that final score immediately as it showed up.

>>3939573
This better be a rrat otherwise there is a weird patern of behaviour among the management:

>>3940171
Breaks my heart every time unironically

>>3939508
Because majority of her audience are cringe toxic autists who will get mad at just about anything.

>>3940173
Setting aside whether it's true or not, taking a break is generally a very bad thing for streamers. I've seen a lot of twitch streamers talk about how they don't like to take long breaks because it's horrible for retention.

I imagine being part of an agency blunts the blow a bit though, since your viewers can just watch another one of those girls while you're gone, and when you return those girls will hype your return stream. For example, Miko actually came back from her break bigger than she was before

>>3940324
That just adds to my two rrats
>She likes streaming so much the thought of a break literally brings her to tears
Or
>Someone convinced her that taking a break is bad and literally broke her little autistic brain.

>Choose to destroy her own health by slaving away at Apex
>Health turn to shit as predicted
>Puts the blame on viewers for the deterioration of her health which is her own doing

>>3940173
One of the reasons why she declined last year was because she took 3 weeks break for sololive

LET THE RRATS OUT
LET THE NEW RRATS OUT
BRING OUT YOUR DEAD RRATS
REVIVE YOUR DEAD RRATS

>>3939573
I mean, the manager is not wrong if the rrat is true. It's literally a vtubers' fucking job to act as anime girls for our entertainment

>>3939508
Hololive work ethics. Eitehr slave or get dropped

>>3940807
>Hololive work ethics

>>3940807
Get a load of this blabbering antis


KWAB

no bully onyon

>>3940324
That only worked because Miko's break was dramatized by Narukami. If she took regular breaks she would decline

>>3940945
ayame still does the bare minimum. It's not a rrat anymore that taking breaks in Hololive is going to be rotated between members which is the reason Aqua is taking a break right after Marine returned when she obviously wanted to do this before.

>>3939508
Retarded. Please andastand.

>>3939508
Anti thread, kys

>>3941294
>taking breaks in Hololive is going to be rotated
Wow just like every other job in the world. No wonder Rrat sellers unable to comprehend this for they are literally unemployed maggots

>>3940807
Work?

>>3941345
except everyone was actively denying this in past and saying hololive isn't McDonalds or some shit like this

>>3941342
Why are chongs disloyal

Here's a young girl that wants to do lots of things. She has the money and time to do so but can't because she keeps getting throat problems. It's probably frustrating for her. Especially because of the fact she were in a somewhat slow stream sched already because of the concert. She probably thought that she can stream a lot after it but no. She got sick. This probably killed the momentum she got from the 3D concert and covers that she did. She can probably see a lot of the stuff the other holo members are doing. Everyone is inclining. The whole stream every day culture really started with their biggest hitters like Pekora and Aqua. So seeing herself slow down like is probably frustrating for her. This is not just simply missing 1 point in a MK tournament. It's missing and delaying projects, recordings and streams she probably has in mind. Her crying is understandable.

>>3939573
They're at war with Niji right now. Aqua refused to fight cuz she pitied her Niji friends. Sickness is just an excuse anon.

>>3941625
I like this rrat, mr. rratman. Who do you mean by (((they)))?

>>3939508
She has always been this way

>>3941625
HoloLive forces Aqua to take a break in order to cancel her collab with Tamaki and some Nijigirls.
Amazing.

>>3941740
According to number thread, JP + EN + Uto gang coalition. Coco is making connection with Vshojo rn. Shartesmis is a traitor btw.

Aqua is barely able to function already, please don't make it worse for her. Without v-tubing she would be living in the streets or institutionalized.

>>3940945
>>3941361
literally two examples of sleeping with managers.

>>3942458
God I wish

>>3939508
Because she needs us more than we need her. Irl she's just a socially crippled hikki, less than nobody. Online? A fucking celebrity, a lead performer of one of the biggest Vtuber cooperation.

A big part of this is probably related to China and her big League of Legends collab that got canceled due to Coco and the T word

>>3943919
towa...

>>3940173
It is a baseless narrative. Aqua talked countless times about her relationship with her manager, they are very close to each other, she even said that her manager treats her as her own daughter.

>>3943970
A better narrative would be that her manager told her to take a break after she was unable to do today’s utawaku

>>3944013
Imagine being paid to take care of an autistic "child" like Aqua.

>>3943970
H-hot desu

>>3944073
My dream job.

>>3939508
thanks for showing your eop.

>>3939544
fbfp

>>3939766
Her being a sore loser is unrelated.

>>3939508
I am tired of the current Aqua, I miss pre-capcom incident Aqua where she can stream whatever she wants

>>3944584
She openly congratulated Suisei twice at the end of the Mario Kart stream and in her next stream and if I recall correctly outright stated that she didn't like that she gave up at the very end and that she was worried she let down her fans since she was the favorite to win, now her chat definitely did have some people sore about it sure

>>3939508
She's the one that gets fucked over by idolfags the most and she caves in instead of ignoring them like the rest, I remember that time she and the chat played with a Japanese smash pro with the Chat's permission, and the fuckers till called her whore despite her only playing like 2 matches and then letting the chat play with him and keep the normal rotation of the room

>>3939508
Because she's cute and I love her

>>3939795
Hey anon, you dropped something.

>>3939766
/vt/ is full of arrogant Autismos that are worse than Aqua, please understand

Aqua is the kind of girl to be pressured into sex by an older muscular delinquent senpai.

AQUA LOVE!

>>3939646
thats Monhun

>>3945584
>older
>muscular
>delinquent
>senpai.
Literally describes me perfectly. Brb Gonna have sex with Aqua right now.

>>3946274
>senpai.
You’re part of HoloLive Gen1!?!?

>>3939508
for the comeback superchats, of course

Did she actually pass out? Isn't that bad? you normally don't pass out from regular illness unless she was retardedly exhausted

>>3946451
She was only able to stay awake by drinking around 3 cans of Red Bull daily for multiple days

you dont understand how even the smallest of breaks can actually ruin your streaming career.

>go into /jp/ thread
>all of it's just shitting on her (and the girls in general) because streaming and all the shit they do behind the scenes doesnt count as muh real hard work and everytime you say that's wrong or feel bad for aqua you get called a chink sympathizer
Damn

>>3946502
She just needs to stop playing apex so goddamn much, that's literally the issue

>>3946581
>She just needs to stop playing apex so goddamn much, that's literally the issue
That’s what she did

>>3946274

>>3941994
You fool, Vshoujo is allied with nijifags

I don't know about you guys, but I want to hug Aqua and tell her everything will be OK...

>>3939508
She needed a break period. she’s a hard working girl and I’m impressed at how much she could do. APEX nearly broke her.

Thank you Aqua for providing the much needed menhera fix.

Good aquachinks and their big queen deserve to suffer
>waaaaah muh mental health and stress
Grow the fuck, streaming is not hard work you whores know nothing of hard work. Go back to shutting the fuck up about your problems and irrelevant lives and STREAM FUCKING VIDEO GAMES BECAUSE ITS THE ONKY THING YOU WHORES ARE USEFUL FOR

>>3939766
That loss for aqua was painful but it’s Mario kart. Don’t put yourself that hard.

>omg why is this woman crying!?
Women cry at everything holy fuck it's like I'm literally inhabiting this board with fucking incels. Have none of you ever been with or dated a biological female ever? What is wrong with you? Women cry over fucking ice cream flavours and cute puppies on tv. How sheltered are you fucking incels? Holy shit. Fucking Germans I bet. Almost every kraut is a fucking incel. It's like they're genetically programmed to become stinking lanky useless pathetic incels.

>>3939292
>She should really hang out with botan,
https://youtu.be/TmNLTFZlNRg
Anon, but it was actually because of Botan, Lamy and Polka that caused her trauma with minecraft, back then she used to stream minecraft everyday building the Aquamaringo she was candid and had no problem asking other holos to join Akukin, like Moona, then went for gokisei, and is almost overlooked here, but they made fun of her, all the jannitor scandal was caused by this, and fueled by the crew pissed on, because of how they treated Aqua, even now regularly they mention this in 5ch, as the failed gen, they told her they would think about it but Aqua never asked back and mantained radio silence about it, and it was around this time that she stopped playing minecraft, and because of that Moona also left... you know the rest.
Months later, Botan declared that she wanted to be part of Akukin, she wanted to qualm the flames, and had a pang of guilt, but Aqua was already immersed in APEX.

>>3947041
Bold of you to assume anyone here would willingly date a femoid

>>3947041
>Have none of you ever been with or dated a biological female ever?
No, thank god. Women are fucking shit and vtubers are the only way I can put up with them because I can dip out whenever I please with no repercussions

>>3947087
>and it was around this time that she stopped playing minecraft
no that was literally 4 months later
try again

>>3947087
>Aqua never asked back and mantained radio silence about it
Lamy is part of Akukin
https://youtu.be/x8_Miqdsr9s

>>3947041
>muh incels
>>>/r9k/

>>3947041
Tell us how you really feel

>>3946483
so she was retardedly exhausted

Aqua needs a girlfriend.

>>3947087
That's a wild rrat you got there anon.

>>3947155
she stoped to stream regularly, you don't pay atention

>>3947232
I think we should kill all americans, krauts and basically anyone who is circumcised. How about them apples Josh?

>>3947171
Aqua never asked another member to join Akukin alone, she was with Marine and Mio at the time

>>3947339
I pay more attention than you.

>>3947354
I'm american but not circumcised though.

>>3939508
You know I was thinking this too
She could've easily just made a Twitter post

Subaru recently said something along the lines of "kaigainiki must be thinking im weird, like 'why doesnt she just take a break' haha" and refused to elaborate as if every japanese listener would agree with her, so I suppose the japanese culture of not taking long breaks ever unless you're practically teleworking from the ICU still holds true for streamers.
I dont think Aqua is particularly worried about taking a break because she has massive numbers, but its probably good manners to make a public stream saying how sorry you are that you're not going to be able to work and how much of a burden you are on your coworkers, as its typical in japanese corporate culture.

>>3946998
based

>>3947434
>I'm American but not
You still go in the oven Josh. Say your prayers you greasy circumcised pig.

>>3947744
Lmao

>>3947457
parasocial relationships are weird.
aqua is a huge dork and has issues talking to people, streaming is more or less her only social outlet.
for her not being able to stream is a bit like saying goodbye to every friends she ever had for a bit, and it's compounded by a fear that if you don't stream they'll all leave you and go watch someone else and forget about you.
that's part of why for some streamers not being able to stream is incredibly scary.

>>3947041
Last time I saw my sister cry was more than two years ago and it was when our mother was nearly dying. Maybe women in your country(assuming white) are just hysteric morons.

>>3947087
>Botan, Lamy and Polka that caused her trauma with minecraft
>"I won many prank wars, but its always me doing the pranking, I never get pranked back, no one invites me to anything, so Im really happy about both being pranked back and being actually invited to play with holofive"
lol

>>3948007
>being white means you're hysteric

>>3940131
Sure, but it wont kill her career, her brand name is so strong she can recover whatever she might lose.

>>3939508
So is Aqua to the JP bros what Kiara is to /vt/? Past bad blood, numberfag and savior baiting?

>>3940131
This is objectively false though. Every girl who has taken a break in the last... year? Has come back to streams with at least 50% higher viewership and massive SCs. Their numbers level out back to their norm, but there isn’t a drop off. There’s an influx of curious people who heard about the return from the Hololive community.

>>3948599
at least she gets numbers. but yeah I saw a lot of posts on 5ch saying "now that Aqua isn't here we can't post anything anymore"

>>3948599
No because aqua actually impacted hololive and people like her

Yeah, whoever said this is the anti board is a retard. Just overwhelming support for the holos here.

>>3948795
Give it a day and they will find someone new to shitpost about, lets just hope its someone with thicker skin
>>3948894
Sure, but that impact is also why its so easy to shitpost about her, she has quite a list of sins
>>3948999
I mean the language and culture barrier does wonders for weebs to love them no matter what

>Aqua
>crying
She always fucking cries. Why is this news?

>>3939508
Zhang... Help her.

>>3949196
Zhangs are still coping because her LIVE wasn’t on BiliBili

>>3949372
Lmao.
Well they deserve that

>>3949138
Why do you write like a chuuni faggot?

>>3948999
I think anons just primarily post their gripes with certain girls/Hololive outside of the mega thread so it only looks like there are antis here.

>>3949196
>>3949372
>>3949548

>>3941294
>seperate people time things differently, this proves my rrat!
meds.

>>3949570
I don't know, takes one to know one I suppose

>>3947457
>livestreamer could have just posted on twatter instead of streaming
>>>/trash/
are you the sort that got triggered by kalli calling you out for tweeting instead of creating? go become An Hero.

>>3948894
>implying
>projecting
kfp-antis are up there with nu-haatons in needing the rope.

Aqua should graduate for her own sake before she becomes emotionally dependent on streaming. I worry for her and I want her to be happy even if I never see her again. There is more to life than being a fucking anime girl for some losers to throw peanuts at you and pretend that they love you.

>>3948737
>Their number level out back to their norm
In some cases they get better, just look at Miko. She went from a mid-tier holo to a top 5 holo after her break as far as viewership goes.

>>3940171
I can still hear the crying

Aqua will endure it. She has learned to live alone and she gets better by day. She will come back refreshed and ready to stream some ffvii when she does. She is an emotional girl but has improved a lot on these years.i trust her

>>3952414
>before she becomes emotionally dependent on streaming
aqua is wayyyy past that point, as are half of the girls in the company

>>3952815
>Shion
>Haachama
>Matusri
>FBK
>Mel
>Ayame
>Choco
>Subaru
There are a ton that aren't in the early generations.

>>3939508
She is autistic and fears that people might forget about her in a week or two despite having million+ subs and pretty solid numbers overall. She is also Japanese.

>This whole thread.
You "people" disgust me.

>>3940173
Did it came from 5ch/JP side? Because it sounds pretty normal for Japanese holos for example recently Subaru had similar problems with her throat and absolutely hated the idea of taking a break because "it feels as if I died" she even went on to say that kaigai-niki would think she's crazy but she really doesn't want to stop. On the other hand you have Ayame who doesn't really stream much more than bare minimum and somehow manage to attract strong numbers.

>>3939508
>A simple break due to sickness
Did you even watch her video, anon?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9dp4dEylnA

>>3939580
>>3939673
but this VODs had like million+ if anything she seemed to ride the wave.

From what I've heard the antis actually came from Taiwan either because she's seen as "pro-china" or because some twitch streamers called her overrated as APEX player or some shit like that, nothing too serious.

>>3953635
Aqua... Don't egosa... Don't do this, your audience doesn't actually care that much, they will move on just fine without you...

>>3953604
Subaru is an egosa addict, she can't help but care what people think of her.

>>3941385
I mean there is no proof that it's the company policy, holos talk with each other and sometimes have to stream because of the sponsors, that's why Ollie was contractually obligated to stream up to the end of April but doesn't seem like management had an issue with her break. They don't take those breaks often enough to see a claer pattern anyway.

>>3946686
Vwhores are nobody's friend they even hate each other, at least feminist nyanners shouldn't like most other members.

>>3953491
This is pretty tame by /vt/‘s standards, honestly. Although, relatively speaking that only makes it a small house fire instead of a raging dumpster fire.

>>3939508
Kayfabe explanation: She is just an insecure recluse that having to leave streaming even for a little while makes her sad. Because she values her viewers so much.

Real explanation: She is playing into your "must protect" instinct.

>>3946451
Lulu passed out while playing Thief simulator some time ago and it was already after her 1 month semi-break due to exhaustion, shit happens.

>>3953694
>Don't egosa
Her streams were getting spammed and disliked, some people were posting shit in her twitter hashtags she uses to look at fanart or in the comments under her videos. She didn't really have to look for it.

>>3939508
Parasocial relationships are one hell of a drug.

>>3954469
Aqua doesn't have those. She doesn't do GFE shit and she doesn't derive validation from chat.

>>3954531
Anon, she claims she has nightmares people will stop watching her streaims. If that's not a parasocial relationship, then what is.

>>3939508
She actually suffers from depression, anxiety, and stream PTSD you fucking asshole.

>>3954559
Then she needs to quit rather than take a break.

Just watched her announcement, she actually broke character and started speaking with her real voice.
I guess she must really feel affected.

>>3952874
perhaps like 4 or 5 out of those, not exactly "a ton"

Why does aqua seem to have such a toxic JP fanbase? I only hear bad things about them

>>3954642
I didn't type that sentence out well. I meant most of gens 0, 1, 2, and gamers do not do that shit and are not emotionally dependent on streaming.

>>3954587
You're not her therapist and you don't know what she "needs" to do since you only know her from what she chooses to show you. A person with mental illness can choose to keep doing something and fight that illness, whether out of passion or financial reasons or not wanting to give in to a mental condition. That's presumably the reason you're still alive even though you should've probably killed yourself by now so let her have it.

>>3954587
She is a barely (or not even) functional autist, vtubing is probably her best shot at having a decent life.

>>3954713
She's small, dim-witted, socially awkward, terrible at hiding her emotions, and weak to pressure. She is a prime attraction for the worst kind of sadistic psychos. They circle around her like sharks because they smell blood in the water. The ultimate bully bait, if you will.

>>3954713
The toxic segment of Competitivefags are always like this. They take their sense of self-worth and pride from metrics and results on leader-/score-boards. And it breeds this toxic mentality of measuring everything; measuring everything against something else. It is just like toxic numberfags, they will dehumanize, seethe and screech over metrics. They have no values, and no loyalty. If you cannot put a number on it, and measure it against something else with you coming out on top, then their hollow pride make them implode, and ticks them off something fierce. Aqua attracted these types by using her autism to obsess over results and becoming the ''gaming onion''. She deserves some peace, nobody can chase the crown forever, it is stressful. Doing solo APEX grind destroyed her health, because that is a hard goal to set for yourself. It is the downside of her being bad at socializing - it would have been easier if she got herself a regular team to do the grind with. We are our own worst enemy at times.

The moment someone hits a wall and gets frustrated all of the retards here starts mouthing graduation. They are people. Their profession is based upon them showing a range of emotions to a live audience. They spend hours talking to these people. If somehow they get frustrated and down why would anyone be surprised that they share those emotions as well? It's not fucking rocket science. At least she's being honest with her audience to a certain degree and not closing this in a member stream. She's going to be fine. She's down because she can't stream. She can't stream because of her throat. Her throat issues is treatable. Her job is to fucking talk and sing. Noone should be surprised that she will get throat problems. And no she's not being autistic lately. She hasn't done any crazy streama for over a month now. You all more autistic than Aqua.

>>3946274
6'7" and jacked?

Is agua.. ogey?

>>3955090
Aqua isn't a person, she is a character. If her voice actor feels bad then keep it to herself and rest, recover, and try to feel refreshed. I know she will be fine physically and I doubt she'd graduate. People are extremely negative because they are bored and don't care about circumstances.

>>3954713
Wouldn't really call those her fanbase. Those people who are members and are always in her chat and replying to her twitter posts tend to always be really protective and supportive.
She's just one of the favorite targets for antis of all kinds and she has been for a long time, same with Fubuki. The difference is that Fubuki doesn't give a shit and can take whatever shit they throw at her.

>>3955345
You don’t even watch Aqua, do you? Aqua doesn’t put on a character at all, she just streams as herself. She’s definitely one of the most “real” holos, she’s even said so herself how she’s pretty much dropped all kayfabe.

>>3940171
link?

>>3955453
If you watched her NND stuff then you know that's a complete lie

>>3955586
You don't even understand japanese you stupid faggot

>>3955096
my dick is 6.7" and i'm jacking off yes

>>3948737
>Has come back to streams with at least 50% higher viewership
do you know why i know that you are speaking up your ass? because you din't even know that Robocco took a break, and what you said didn't applied to Luna either when she was sick, there are a couple more examples, but i will leave like that

Imagine being Aqua's girlfriend right now...

>>3955649
>Implying
Stop projecting reddit nigger

>>3955816
>*eddit boogeyman
Thanks for confirming

>>3955453
I do, often. Aqua is a character whether you like it or not and her voice actor still tries to put on a show. Even if her voice actor doesn't use the kayfabe she is still acting. She isn't Aqua, she plays the role of Aqua. Her voice actor is a human being like us and deserves a little compassion, she is going through a difficult time but she'll bounce back once she physically bounces back. Being in pain and suffering from sleep deprivation is more harmful to your psyche than antis.

>>3954549
that's squeezing the lemons to the max for akasupa

>>3955400
Yeah good point, they relent on Fubuki because she handles the bullying perfectly - she simply gives them nothing by not giving a shit, and that is the best way to handle it (easier said than done for some of course)

>>3956445
What's more likely, that the confirmed menhera actually gets regular nightmares about not gettingor that she's trying to make extra money off people's sympathy (when she's already making a decent amount)?

>>3956810
How do you know that she's seeing nightmares . She might be lying

>>3956911
She's a known menhera (like more than half of the Hololive girls), why would she lie?

>>3956810
bitch needs to pay rent

>>3957076
Aqua is one of the bigger names in Hololive, so she made a decent amount and probably has enough saved up to cover her rent for a while.

Is Aqua just actually autistic and can't tell the difference between friendly teasing and actual bullying?

>>3957411
Yes

>>3957411
The truth is she probably gets an equal amount of both

>>3954713
Because she was unlucky enough to have traditional idolfags as fans, think of /vt/ but 4x worse.
The reason why she exploded in popularity 2 years ago is because nips saw her as the perfect idol oshi when all she wants to do is to play games like the other Holos are doing.

>>3957411
for starters that's not autism, that's just anxiety and aqua has a severe case of it

>>3957411
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8lfZ7rdEFw
Aqua literally thinks most hololive members are romantically interested in her.

>>3960376
She's not even seiso, she likes lewd art all the time and she follows hardcore hentai artists.

>>3960533
>Aqua literally thinks most hololive members are romantically interested in her

She literally only acts like this around Shion.

The only other member she acts even close to this is Okayu but even then it's more of a running joke about a one sided love.

>>3955400
Did the zhangs finally turn on queen onyan

Reminder that you share a board with literal antis from outside of Hololive circle

>>3956418
Aqua is just like any streamer with or without face cam. Her streamer version is the hyped up version of who she is irl. You can't fucking replace the voice behind the avatar because it is her. You claim you watch her so you should know all her irl stories that she shares. About all the people she likes and follow. The character will always stay in character if what you are claiming is true. This is not a fucking long ass television show. Nothing is scripted. She's stressed and concerned. She was addressing a lot of people's concerns too. If she was being candid it's because people have been malicious about her inactivity. It's clearly affecting her.

>>3961075
Yeah she's been like that since her debut days, her older fans don't really care as long as she makes time to act like an idol that only pays attention to her fans.

>>3961648
She should just ban all Chinese
That will fix it

>>3961728
It's not even just chinese at this point. She's successful. She likes to play competitive games alone. A lot of people are salty that this girl gets a lot of attention rather than favorite nobody. Remember that twitch streamer that insulted her during master marathon? Or even the amount of people just telling her to teamup? She got stream sniped a lot. She wants to play how she wants to play. It's just pathetic how bitter some people can be.

I'm surprised more of the older Holos aren't going through a depression cycle like Aqua and Haato.
Spending your teenage/young adult years trying to entertain sweaty nerds in their 20s/30s as an anime character on Cover's daily schedule doesn't like the most mentally healthy activity.

>>3961953
Those are just spiritual Chinese

>>3961648
>people have been malicious about her inactivity
>remain inactive
How do we get out of here Aquabross?

>>3962113
Older people have real shit to cry about

>>3961953
>Remember that twitch streamer that insulted her during master marathon?
link?

>>3962113
>Spending your teenage/young adult years trying to entertain sweaty nerds in their 20s/30s
for Aqua and Haato the alternative is just staying in her house playing video games and leaching her parents, i think the option where she gets Akasupas is better

>>3962113
The older ones have worked shittier jobs to make ends meets. Compared to swabbing toilets, being an OL at a black company or managing an e-sports teams, entertaining with sweaty nerds for a couple of hours a day doesn't seem so bad.

>>3962113
It feels like the older ones know how to pace themselves a lot better and know their own limits more.

Can see the warning signs a lot sooner and know when to take a break or do shorter streams.

Also, I'm sure they've done shit office jobs in the past and genuinely know how much worse it can be.

>>3962696
I meant "older" as in Gen 0-2, back when Yagoo was scouting impressionable 15-17 year olds to join his vtubing company.
Gamers and Gen 3-5 has mainly women in their mid-20s to early-30s and are mature enough to handle shit-tier fandoms.

>>3962113
Marine just said that she was in a slump. Korone almost graduated. Fubuki did have an anxiety attack of sorts before. She was being called the representative of hololive and she was about to go on this concert. She got so scared and cried. Mio had one too. She cried while contemplating about being lowest subscribed member of gamers on the stream. Aki had one too about before about lowest overall. Flare broke down before in front of Korone when she was gifted a wallet. This was when she was the lowest subcribed 3rd gen. Watame has somewhat of a depressed shit going but Coco gave her tough love. It's not just the young ones. Honestly, I think Towa has the most healthy response to haters when they kept telling her that she was low view trash. She said that it's sad that that is all they see. Basically called them numberfags.

>>3963189
>>3963255
See
>>3963435

>>3963435
Matsuri is Matsuri
Shion and Ayame stream rarely by default
Mel...

>>3962113
>doing what you like and chatting with people who support you while your face isn't even shown is not healthy
It's better for mental health than most other jobs out there. Nobody at Cover forces Aqua to search through 5ch and read shitposts about herself

>>3963189
Hey, i'm not sweaty

>>3963552
Hololive is such a big warm family yet everyone is super insecure about having lower subscribers than their genmates. Really makes u fink

>>3963552
Of course we have Pekora, Nene and Polka breaking down in member streams all for different reasons. It's not the age. If you get enough hate, you can break down eventually. Even Coco who is the most mature broke down at some point.

>>3963815
I swear Matsuri has a depression arc every week or something.

Love that mess though

>>3963552
>Marine just said that she was in a slump
Marine was literally browsing anti threads on 2ch/5ch and got really worked up about schizo rrats.

>>3963815
Shion does get a little down in the dumps sometimes.

>>3964008
Never worked in your life have you

>>3964008
It's because even though they are not competing with one another, they are still compared with each other. Aki's famous speech when she was the lowest explains it very well. It is a business. You don't want to be viewed as indispensable or something.

>>3963815
Matsuri is like Miko where her entire family made a culture around their vtubing.
Shion always had a shit sleep schedule and Ayame i'm not even sure because I don't watch her.

>>3964008
Flare has a top 1% subscriber count in vtubing and is top 10 in the world in SCs. I don't get it.

>>3964006
I am very sweaty, so on average we're mildly sweaty.

>>3963552
Being an entertainer is rough work, people will shit on you even when you get everything right. It is only natural to feel the pressure even more, when you are not looking your audience in the face, they become this faceless entity that changes its mood from hour to hour. That must definitely be anxiety-inducing. I do not envy them having to deal with that. But it does make me appreciate how they deal with the bullshit more, no doubt about it.

>>3964163
It's you guys who always deny Hololive having a corporate atmosphere and when exposed fall back on the line that "well every other job is like this!"

>>3960376
So it's like us with Ame, but way worse

>>3964223
>You don't want to be viewed as indispensable or something.
You said that wrong, but your point definitely still stands.

>>3964163
I don't know about you anon, but I never took work stress into the rest of my daily life. You might need to see a therapist about that.

>>3964047
Even fucking Subaru broke down when her birthday project got canceled. She was in a slump. It's only a good thing Okayu and Mio was so quick to show up and comfort her

vtubing is an interesting beast. Many girls with no social skills and/or no looks, many of them already in their 30s, become famous and idols. Has there ever been an industry where people become anonymously famous?

>>3964350
You do realize a family-like bond can form even in a corporate atmosphere right? Those two things aren't mutually exclusive, so the question still stands: You've never worked in your life have you?

>>3964047
The human brain was never meant to deal with that much sustained targeted hate. You gotta be some sort of sociopath for it not to affect you eventually.

>>3964350
>you guys
Corporate atmosphere forces people to compete, hololive does not hound their talents to reach sub goals
The girls themselves feel bad for it because they can think of it as other's hard work paying their salary

>>3964573
Real jobs, not "customer service" or hard labor

>>3964678
Does serial killer count?

>>3964764
Those are called careers anon.

>>3964695
Aqua has been really good so far in fielding hate but this time it get to her. Noone should criticize her for feeling things like sadness and fear. I do wish she had more consistent support and talked to people about this more. We know she can be a gloomy introspective person when not streaming. This comes with the job but it doesn't mean she has to do it alone.

>>3964685
Well at least you're not denying it that such environment exists. Most people use the term warm family to say there's no cutthroat competition like Up8 and it's a pressure free place.
>You've never worked in your life have you?
I'm at a construction team as an intern atm. But I don't get the comparison between an entertainer group and real physical work. They don't even have health insurance. I haven't worked in showbiz to see what it's like.

>>3965052
Shion yo...

I'm not sure who can help her....

>>3963189
exactly, shubas that already had shitty jobs understand that Hololive is easy mode, and try to defend the idea that playing games for 1 or 2 hours is too much, Aqua, Ayame and Shion never had real life experience, that's why they understimate what they have

>>3965186
Shion is doing pretty well so far. Let her be. She just had a good time with her friends. I'm just glad she's doing collabs now.

>>3965328
Doesn't ayame have health issues?

>>3963552
>I think Towa has the most healthy response to haters when they kept telling her that she was low view trash
you were doing good showing off your clipfagottry diploma, then you fucked up with Towa, because there is not enough clips

>>3964685
What point are you even trying to make anon, yes corporations has a competitive nature, but Cover makes it clear they're not like other companies and actually want to keep their JP vtubers regardless of numbers.
The girls wouldn't have to worry about being graduated out of the blue due to low popularity as long as they keep up their schedule. Most corporate workers don't have that same luxury, including those in the entertainment field.

>>3965079
>I'm at a construction team as an intern atm. But I don't get the comparison between an entertainer group and real physical work. They don't even have health insurance. I haven't worked in showbiz to see what it's like.
I feel that, but it should be noted that VTubers aren't really showbiz in the typical sense. It's essentially a group of streamers that play and do various events together (live or not). Historically, that type of work has fostered close connections and spawn collaborations that can go on for years upon years.

>>3965570
I mean, you essentially just worded my poibt better than I did. Competition is still a key word here, even if job stability isn't a worry.

>>3965052
Yea I'm sure she'll have friends around her who understand what she's going through who will be able to be there for her.

From what I've seen anyways, she's really close with Shion and Mea who've both gone through their own rough patches.

>>3960376
She got popular because she streamed a lot and played a lot of different games, and she was kinda good at some of them and people liked how she reacted. Playing games was not even that standard for Hololive at the time which is why Hololive GAMERS became a thing.
There was also the 44.5kg clip that blew up, and help from the chinks that latched on to her and Mea for some reason and helped to promote her a lot.

>>3965733
Still you have to admit that bringing it up on stream and even crying by several members isn't that normal. Yeah it's only natural to compare yourself to your friends but this is menhera level

>>3965052
We can't support her like a close friend could, but remember our support isn't entirely in vain either. Send her well wishes and stuff in her downtime, any little bit helps.

>>3965355
she said that last year, then her roomate account was found by 5ch shizos, and everything she said was a lie

>>3965979
hahahaha based ayame

>>3960376
>>3965758
You're both right, and that's why her fans clash more than the typical fanbase. She's being pulled in two seperate directions, although it's clear she wants to focus on gaming more than traditional idol stuff.

>>3939508
It's Kiara's fault.

>>3965800
No sane woman wants to be worshiped by thousands of creeps while pretending to be an anime girl for hours a day.

>>3965570
It's still competitive regardless if they keep their jobs or not, especially in an over-saturated market like vtubing. They're not indie vtubers, they work for a company and if they're doing poorly then obviously they'll think they're holding the company back. It's the same existential crisis low-Sub/View Youtube e-celebs were going through in 2015-2018 once ad sense 1/4th their wages and they realize they'll never be the next Pewdiepie. Hololive and Vtubers in general are going through that same crisis this year.

It's like Subaru said in her HoloTalk, vtubers consider themselves rivals first and foremost.

>>3965979
If playing games mean you're not dick I've never been ill in my life

>>3965979
Smells like a rrat.

>>3966041
you will bitch, if there is akasupas involved

>>3965800
What is crazy about it. She streamed that she was taking a break. She was emotional because a lot of people are spreading rumors about her. Even during the pre-stream chat people were doomposting. Imagine streaming to that so much hate. She was concerned about her future that she got nightmares about it. She's a dedicated. Why is that so crazy.

>>3966072
smells like newfag

>>3966021
It's a shame because Aqua playing different games is the reason I got into Hololive in the first place, now all she does is play Apex.

>>3965800
Aquas issue has nothing to do with comparing to her friends.

>>3966182
She hasn't played Apex seriously in months. She barely streams. All she does mostly is casual games and singing.

>>3966178
The fact that you responded this defensively proves it. You suck at this, anon.

>>3966335
Honestly, I think Aqua is in a slump and not satisfied with the content she was putting out. Now that everyone is gaming, and gaming seriously maybe she feels like part of her identity is gone. Of course, this is speculation based largely on the MK Tournament, but still.

How is it that people keep complaining about Aqua playing Apex too much, but her Apex streams have so many more views than any of her other content?

>>3966460
She mentioned in a member stream that she got a health scare during the masters marathon. She decided she won't be playing it seriously during this current season. She was taking recommendations about what to play actually and we were assuming she would play them after the 3D concert but she got sick. She was busy doing her lessons and the 3D concert to do any serious gaming. She then had this people spreading rumors about her while she is sick. She's alone on her own. She's still trying to do her lessons too. That's why she immediately said at the start that she's not graduating. The narratives got to her. She needs to go back home and be with her family. I think living alone was a mistake.

>>3966460
She used to carry hololive, now she's just another holomem.

>>3966460
I made this point a couple months ago on /jp/ and people thought I was overreacting, but look where we are today. People forget Aqua is instinctvely competitive and before the EOP boom, Aqua was the goto Holo member and was almost on her way to surpassing Fubuki in subs and becoming the #1 Holo. Then the english-speaking Coco joining, clipfags, and Korone's le cute noises memes slowed her sub count since she had nothing else to bring to the table expect gaming and singing, losing to Suisei was the nail for her breakdown even if anons and Aqua herself denies it.

Not to mention last year people accused her for being a Zhang apologist because she sung that one chinese song in a singing stream so going from the most loved to one of the most hated did not bode to her well for her mental state.

>>3966348
that's not defensive, and you argue like a plebbitor, go back

>>3962696
depresion is a physical condition, anon.
It has very little to do with how you feel or the state your life is in.

>>3946413
Haachama desu

>>3963888
>Implying they're doing what they love
For some vtubers it's just a job or a kickstart to future jobs in entertainment since it's an easy way to build up money. Subaru wasn't even into otaku culture in general when she first debuted.

Poor girl, hope she gets well soon and that management can wrangle the tards in her chat.

>>3967302
so what? is not the end of the world and there are meds and therapist, and she has a fuck ton of money to deal with it, this entire board is composed of depressed retards that deal with it everyday, you just can't manage your saviour complex

>>3967667
the problem is that the process of getting both is very long and very difficult, because the nature of depression makes everything very tedious and difficult.

>>3967302
I have clinical moderate depression
Again, age gives perspective. Crying because your comfortable, well paying job that doesn't destroy your body or your brain is something only younger people would do.

>>3968179
You are talking about a perspective you don't have. How can you know what it's really like?

>>3967667
Yeah /vt/ aka schizo central is a shining example of people "dealing with" their mental issues. Aqua should really learn from our example.

>>3968220
huh? There's a reason why despite everything some holos don't break down on stream. Marine for example, wouldn't want to depress her fans and knows just how lucky she is, so crying about her job would be tone deaf especially when some of her viewers are from the fucking phillipines and live in mudhuts but still give her superchats.
This kind of humbleness only comes with age.

>>3967667
She’s Japanese, taking meds and going to a therapist would bring shame on her family for a thousand generations. They’d rather commit sudoku than admit they’ve got a problem.

>>3968348
Yes, but there is a matter of severity to it and at some point it harms you more to not talk about it, than to do it.
Who do you talk to about it?

Aqua isn't crying about her job either, she's crying that she can't do it properly and that she's letting people down by doing it. There's a lot of societal pressure at work here that you wouldn't be familar with.

>>3968445
Yeah, and she has a company full of people who have the same job, worries and pressures as her that she can talk to about it.

>>3968516
Again, there is societal factors and likely her own mental issues preventing her.
This isn't as clear cut as you think. You're not being "old and mature", you just believe that your perspective is applicable in all societies across all professions.
It's not. You need to stop being so immature.

schizos: spend hours of their precious life formulating bizarre rrats and obsessive theories about the person behind an internet stream avatar

schizos: "lmao aqua's mental health is poor"

>>3967085
>I made this point a couple months ago on /jp/ and people thought I was overreacting, but look where we are today.
I don't think this current issue really has anything to do with being competitive or games. It's all the antis and the hate she got from not streaming and some of those butthurt Apexfags getting to her head.
She wanted to finally stream some other games again after being done with her concert but couldn't because she got sick again and that really pissed off those people that were already upset because she was focusing on her Sololive instead of streaming.
If you were looking at her twitter hashtags the past few days or so it was filled with shit like people linking that Calendar that showed which days she didn't stream this year.
And probably the worst for Aqua was that for a while there were throwaway accounts using her fanart hashtag (which she checks every day to retweet and like art) to make a bunch of comments about how more and more viewers will leave if she keeps up not streaming, that people will not care about her streams anymore, claiming that they were long time members that quit their membership, shit like that.
After what she said on stream today it looks like those type of comments really managed to hurt her.

This is not the first time she had these worries about how suddenly her fans will hate or leave her, similar thing happened for example last year with some people complaining about the way she played ARK so she stopped playing it.

>>3941625
>THEY'RE AT WAR
that's why they collab together constantly
>NOOOOO THEY'RE MORTAL ENEMIES
which is why they barely take any action in new markets against one another, even spacing out releases to not crowd the other
>YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS IS BLACK COMPANY ESPIONAGE, YAKUZA ARE FIGHTING IN THE STREETS
they're more at war with themselves than each other, the last few that sunk were because of inter-company drama.
>HOLOLIVE IS WORKING THEIR TALENTS TO DEATH TO KEEP UP WITH NIJI
which is why they have a comfortable lead in almost every market except japan

do you have any more schizo rrats for us or can I start posting what I think you look like in black-and-white feels-man format as you scream and shit yourself?

>>3969158
It is poor though, she fucking cried on stream dude.

>>3939508
she knows her fish brained fans will forget about her by the time she's better

>>3947041
>it's like I'm literally inhabiting this board with fucking incels
Where do you think you are? /vt/ is full of /a/, /pol/, and /jp/ crossboarders that incel is not even an insult at this point, merely a descriptor.

>>3967119
Anon, please. Now you pull out the Reddit card, and manage not to deny that it was a rrat.

>>3969050
t. 20 year old

>>3971886
t. 70 year old

My nightmares never have anything to do with what I'm stressed about
Me in my childhood hometown walking around doing shit then a giant tornado fucking up the building I'm in (I've never seen a tornado IRL) and then waking up confused and sweaty
do people actually have nightmares that make sense?

Does Cover have an office that girls can go to and use a streaming cubicle? I have to imagine that many of them get various bouts of cabin fever from streaming from their homes everyday. I know last year when I got furloughed because of covid I went stir crazy in my house after the 3rd week.

>>3968262
>Yeah /vt/ aka schizo central
>Aqua should really learn from our example
listen tourist, at least try to blend you damn faggott and learn how to keep the thread interesting like this anon >>3968366

>>3975238
There have been times where they said they were streaming in the office before

>>3968262
going to an anonymous board and shit on the world is both cathartic and addictive you know?

>>3939766

You can't forget her reaction is fulled by being stressed, overworked, sleeping poorly due to nightmares and her collapsing two months ago is still having a big effect on her, it really scared the crap out of her and just now together with everything else reality is finally dawning on her. She needs to take care of herself.

>>3939766
You can't forget her reaction is fueled by her being stressed, overworked, sleeping poorly due to nightmares and her collapsing two months ago is still having a big effect on her, it really scared the crap out of her and just now together with everything else reality is finally dawning on her. She needs to take care of herself.

>>3969591

ina cried today too. every vtuber is fucking insane and should go to hell. is this a good rrat guys?

Feels good to know I can count on the menhera trio whenever I need my fix

>>3975238
I've been working from home since last year March, and now my work said it's permanent. Yeah I save a ton on gas but I haven't been outside except to get groceries once per week.

I'm going mad, Anon.

>>3975238
90% of the time they stream from home. One of the very few physical things that Cover corp is providing to girls is Iphone with their in-home.
There's no streaming cubicles lol, that's not even a rrat. But they stream sometimes from the offices if they are busy working on things like HoloGra episodes or promotional stuff.

>>3939692
lamao

>>3941912
THIS. This is the true reason.

>>3941994
Damn anon, Your Rrat is too strong

Please be patient, she has autism

hello world

>>3964223
I think it also has to do with the fund the girls have where they contribute a portion of SC money to the laggard of the month and Aki was the one for months in a row. It's a nice gesture but it also makes you look like a charity case and spotlights your poor performance. I'm sure Mel, Choco, Aki, and Roboco have been in this position a number of times. I doubt ID or EN have this agreement but Anya seems to be fine with being at the bottom and we know Kiara is obsessed with her numbers.

>>3977098
>ina cried today too
Cuz of the Kiara shit?

>>3940807
Korone's manager is begging for her to stop.

>>3984954
>Cuz of the Kiara shit?
I don't hate chicken but WHAT THE FUCK did she do this time?

>>3985030
she started to cry before Kiara even arrived, if you actually gave a fuck you should have been there and seen it

Pretty sad but shikatanai I guess.
I was hoping she'd attempt another Apex "to Masters" challenge...