/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>41495364
>why does Koyori get the highest
Koyori inclined significantly in the past few months.
>pic related for her updated 30 DAYS TRUE AVERAGE AND MEDIAN OF PEAK chart
Not only she rose her baseline all the way up to around 9.5k but she just recently hit her all time high average with 12.9k

Koyori inclined heavily since May 2022, about 2 full k in her baseline and it might rise to 10k if she continues showing this type of strength

>>41495143
Well they are not China, it would be weird to refer to it as such
I'm sure it's just a case of English language being too limited cause I'm sure each SEA countries have a different way to call their LNY

>Last thread archived full of dox
I am now deeply concerned about the chinman gold lewds

>>41495503
>holoX already taking advantage of the possibilities of the new minecraft arc
>holoEN is still taking long breaks
This branch is doomed

Why do the Japanese actually understand what's wrong with HoloEN?

>>41495673
They're just repeating the same theories put forward in this thread. Truth is: it's a combination of all factors

>>41495604
But this one is already a holomama

>>41495654

>>41495643
man, december really was a low point, and then she went to have her strongest month ever

https://youtu.be/PQ54uUV41-k
>300k in 5 hours
Is this good numbers for hologra

>>41495526
But Ina isn't a Lamy. She's fucking at least one though.

>>41495643
Honestly, it's really easy to incline in Hololive. Just stream. Even Kaela's numbers are good and she became the 2nd in HoloID. ID3 was a gold mine for HoloID. Holox could've been the next Sankisei if Laplus and Iroha weren't being a retard.

>>41495673
Homo themselves is not the problem
The problem is that they doesn't even try to boost the girls up so the boys have more to leech, effectively doomed both side. The boys are leeching from a half-dead branch

>>41495709
no

>160k views in 3 weeks
So where are the core EN audience and the korean audience?
https://youtu.be/kJ0hczPwSnM

>>41495673
>things everyone has said to some extent
Gee, they must be mind readers or something

>188
There's a very poetic way to translate this
Something about "extinguishing the flame of excitement"

>>41495673
they watch this place like a zoo, it's just a mirror at this point

>>41495673
They are not emotionally invested in holoEN as much as ENfags, so they can see the bigger picture more easily

I have a schizo theory. Ever since Pekora's return last august, she have this weird pattern where she overperforms in the first two weeks of each month and then instantly slacks off until the next month comes in and she suddenly either starts a new arc or spams buff content again. I think the only month this rule didn't apply properly was during the December month where she put more effort in the last week.

>>41495714
ID3 was the only success Cover had in 2022, the rest of it, not so much. They can't even put the blame on ID3 for overshadowing uproar now. Even with Tempus debuting with no EN3, they still get shit numbers. They don't even realize the problem isn't fans, it's the talents' marketing strategy or entertainment choices.

>>41495757
And your theory is? It's just the usual cycle of climbing up and down, it's normal

>>41495709
Not really, but then again most Hologra in the last 2 years haven't performed immensly well.
A lot of exceptions ofc like the HoloX debuts.

BASED
>BASED

>>41495693
Exactly. Whilst things like starsEN wasn't good for holoEN it would have been much less of a hit if EN3, and 3D debuts, were to happen. As it stands now holoEN has been doing almost nothing for months with starsEN doing projects and getting the advertising spotlight.

>>41495723
They absolutely are the problem for EN, in the sense that EN management went all-in on pandering to the loud minority demanding homos only to get a reaction ranging from indifference to anger even on leddit

>>41495764
out of curiosity was there ever some real nijisanji and holostars collabs save for apex and other fps shit?

>>41495734
>1 Mil in 6 weeks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwEEIHzZNuQ
The Korean one kinda unperformed too.

>>41495764
HoloEXPO and 3rd fes were definitely successes too.

>>41495734
Collab cover is actually a debuff

>>41495764
>Cover released ID3, Uproar and Tempus1 and 2
We know why only ID3 is successful

>>41495868
my pet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvD6otmNlHg
I miss this series, where did all the cool numbers youtubers go
animated graph videos were so gooooood and now they're all dead

>>41495829
Let's be real, there wouldn't be much pushback if they also debut some girls before Tempus And it's exactly the same as I said, they don't care about the girls while at the same time want to use their numbers to boost the boys
It's a counterproductive strategy

>>41495734
>>41495863
No surprises. E7 is a dying game.

>>41495757
CCV rotation.

>>41495673
because those people actually care about Hololive, differently from omega and his minions

>>41495673
You mean why schizos wants to create more rrats over and over against holoEN in this thread and there too. Let me guess Selen lost the global gold and nijinnigers are madling this thread as always. Nothing new

>>41495905
E7 is a dead game since they collabed with Kizuna Ai.

>>41495893
Sub growth are dead

>>41495853
>was there ever some real nijisanji and holostars collabs save for apex and other fps shit?
Yes. One of the highest peaks for a star was a collab with Mayuzumi, on Rikka's channel
Also, isn't Lain and Aruran part of the same "family" (one that Flare reneged)?

>last thread
>Ctrl+F "EN3"
>0 results
Owarida

>>41495945
there are plenty of other metrics you could do cool graph videos on

>>41495757
You're theory of only performing during the first 2 weeks are incorrect. For all of those months she's had big buff streams at the start and end of the month, she's also not "slacked" with the longest continuous period of no streams is 2 days.

>>41495900
Yeah, I've said before that they'd be in a much better state if they'd just put out HoloEN 3 either before Tempus 1 or soon after. The general audience outside of /here/ only started to turn on them during the November-December drought
I'm also sticking by my prediction that if the next gen they announce isn't EN 3, even if it's JP 7, they're going to have a Rushia-graduation-tier fanbase meltdown on their hands

>>41495975
people are losing hope

>>41495757
Which sounds like a healthy strat to me. Invest on innovation first 2 weeks and shove more lax content the other 2, that way you never stay behind in creativity but you never burn out on it.

>>41495734
Shit is basically a DeepL translation and it sounds weird as fuck.

>>41495893
A lot of them were chinese actually.
They tried to integrate b2 at a bad time, then B2 became unreadable garbage for numbers tracking.

Also, hard to get views for these when there's no surprise, with Gura that far ahead.

>>41495975
They are named tempus though.

>>41495975
who cares about en3, i want gen 7

>>41495975
We moved those discussions to past JP time.

>>41495604
It isn't limited to getting a hololive gig. Asagi has been good at interacting with both Ema and her indie chuuba.
I guess if Pomu's artists does a hololive job, and gives it more attention than Pomu, we can assume that Nijisanji is more of a regular commission than a devoted job.

>>41495930
The crop rotation theory does not make sense it's not the numbers that should be rotated but the content. It's just that even if Pekora have theoretically so many good content she could rotate on she just sometimes play random shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06VUdZ8a_t4
Where was Polka these 10 days?
With Lamy?

>>41495994
I kind of want to see them pull that shit. Will be funny when number and profit go to shit while the boys number does not improve one bit. By then management will just scratch they head, wondering what the girls (It's always the girls fault) did wrong

Yeah, Pekora didn't do as well as expected.

>>41495975
we don't talk about girls here, only males

>>41496017
it was super interesting seeing the different trends even when aichan was on top and completely unassailable, the top was never the interesting part of the top 225, it was how everyone was doing in relation to everyone else

>41495953
BASED BESTIALITYCHAD

>>41495975
It's better to dissolve this branch

Okay JP friends, try imagining how HoloJP would look with only two gens for over two years. Add complete lack of support from Cover, so no 3D concert and the talents themselves having to actually create pretty much all the content. On top of that add that half of them now are random homo cocksuckers and will randomly have a month where they nonstop collab with them and leash at the fans who don't want it.
Do you really think they'd be as big as they are now?

Cunnytards it's your time to shine tonight.

2023-01-21
Recochoku
>Single download
*40th Stellar Stellar
>Album download
*27th Still Still Stellar
*30th hololive music studio - Midnight

Mora
>Album download
*8th Still Still Stellar (HR)
*17th hololive music studio - Midnight (HR)
*18th Still Still Stellar
*19th hololive music studio - Midnight

>>41495643
For those who missed, here is Towa. She as well reached her all time career high average, and for a good reason too after a series of magnificent events.
She's likely to enter a return to the mean now, let's see if she can at least raise her baseline

>>41496064
honestly she's underperformed since she tries to leech on koyori

>>41495975
There was someone making fun of the "EN3 is closer than you think" poster

>>41495953
me on the right

>>41495757
milking sc from salaryman

>>41495961
I'm asking about nijisanji specifically implying they should leech, it's just that people from nijisanji will collab with anyone given a reason but Stars as a whole feel so isolated from the rest of the vtubing community it's weird. Like, what do they do to expand their network and reach? They sure get their end of the deal from Cover with all the promotion and events, but what do the talents do as a group?

>>41496057
>The crop rotation theory does not make sense it's not the numbers that should be rotated but the content. It's just that even if Pekora have theoretically so many good content she could rotate on she just sometimes play random shit.
That's the point, she rotates between buff and debuff content.

>>41495975
Nahhh last thread was:
>SELEN LOST THE GLOBAL GOLD.
>NIJINNNIGERS: LETS START HOLO VS HOLO AGAIN. WITH MY FUCKING ASS RRAT ABOUT MANAGMENT OVER AND OVER LIKE ALWAYS.
Thats the reality right now. Nijinnigers are madling like crazy again.

>>41496064
Second stream of a debuff jrpg having 1 k less peak then the first stream.
Whatever you are you taking it's clearly not your meds. Take them.

>>41496093
>and the talents themselves having to actually create pretty much all the content
Anon, with the exception of the company "mandated" events
>3D Debuts
>main channel concerts
>main channel variety
every single content is created by the girls, irrespective of branch.
They produce and pay for from their pockets for every 3D Live, for instance.

is there any mamas that have a daughter in both niji and holo?
Only one I know is lack

>41496098
based hagchad, more of this please since there's no mods at the moment

I think we can all agree, whatever the potential of HoloEN might have been, it is now, and will forever be in the future, a sideshow side branch.

>>41496064
Pekwhora*

>>41496093
A fun way to look at this is that if JP had debuts at the same rate as EN, Pekora would have debuted around when gen 5 did

>>41495886
tell your pet to not be late on stream next time

>>41496093
>Talking about EN
>Absolutely no JP mentioned
>But muh JP
What's your problem?

>>41496184
Lots of them

Kobo's LNY stream turned into a handcam stream lmao

>>41496196
oh hey spectrum, thought you killed yourself after all the miko slips.

>>41495953
my dog on the right

>>41496184
Koyori's mom who hates petra

>>41496089
talking about it, will the lucub upload her video of fucking a dog?

>dragoons doxposting after getting BTFO by chinman and micomet
LOL

>>41496184
Asagi mama with the grand slam Niji/Holo/Vspo

>>41495953
I hope she gets pregnant with cute puppies

>Nijinnigers start the holo vs holo again
Selen lost the Gold...I see

>>41496167
Yeah. The thing about EN management seems to be that it's eftremely slow, and unless they request a meeting at ungodly hours the girls will not get a reply. Maybe they should be more assertive, but I think they're worried about getting every idea shut down of they do.

>>41496093
Holos started with 2views. That's harder. Gen 1 and Gen 2 used to collab with males. Stop coping ENfag.

>>41496198
kek. bye bye

>>41496159
>SELEN LOST THE GLOBAL GOLD.
>NIJINNNIGERS: LETS POST DOXX
Fixed.

>>41496222
it's still going on?

I said this before, and I'll say it again, being a numbersagi must be so exhausting. Stuck in that number schizo cycle. It's like your streamer is hooking you in a scripted Saturday morning villain of the week loop, but for numbers by purposely oscillating it.

>>41496152
>I'm asking about nijisanji specifically implying they should leech, it's just that people from nijisanji will collab with anyone given a reason but Stars as a whole feel so isolated from the rest of the vtubing community it's weird.
Anon, most of the OG Stars are from the same NicoNico and utaite crowd as the OG Niji boys and girls.
I'll assume you are excluding Roberu from your hypothesis because there is no Holo or Star with more connections and outside collabs than the animare designated sex slave.

But collabing outside the brand is not how Holos or Stars roll and for the longest time too, if for no other reason, because the type of content they do and the type of content the rest of the industry does is too different for a good match to form.

You can see that in the EN branch, the collabs between Holos and Nijis didn't last a full month because there is no commonality, either one side will have to act out of character or the other will have to "nerf" themselves for a match to exist.

>>41496236
What the fuck is wrong with them?

hurry the fuck up and get it over with you sick fuck. we know you want to post it.

>>41496184
Miomama

>>41496263
>>41496098
Is there a clean shaven version?

>>41496159
It doesn't take much to get people in the mood to shit on HoloEN management or Tempus.

>>41496184
Okayu and Shiina have same mama

>dox
>porn
PeruANO next?

>>41495884
It's not just because they're girls, it's because there's another gura, another gamer streamer and one lamy. What a fucking combo. That's like Marine, Pekora and Rushia levels of luck for the scouting team.

>>41495723
The EN homos will be a constant reminder of how tone deaf and incompetent EN management is.

>>41495961
Holy shit

>Pubes
Ew

What's the deal about Selen losing the gold? It's against Niji Official.
But being kicked from the podium does hurt kek.

>>41496198
Oni whore I KNEEL!

my cute wife

>>41495643
>leech pekora
>win

>>41496374
I'm going to start discussing about males again
axel is subs 1k right now, lmao what a failure

>>41496323
didn't want uki to win, but jinxed it

>>41496222
Shit like this should be saved for another stream titled [hand cam]
Her manager is retarded

>>41496438
It's a premiere. Never mind.

>>41496440
>>41496333
Kys.

>>41496510
ok caveman

>>41496159
Because no one gives a fuck about NijiEN you mentally ill homotranny. They're reclining into oblivion and even then they still manage to steal some cripple golds from HoloEN. Why? That's exactly what we're discussing.
Unless you care more about the horseraces more people would rather have a healthy HoloEN in their top form instead of just fighting with the shitter over some scraps.

Mori on the JP telly!

Our new holotori member is doing an ES only stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQhixGc8zQA
Give them your support

Jannies doko

>>41496273
On that respect, my opinion is that the EN management is dropping the ball even in relation to the ID management.
You don't need to look any further than their main channels

Hololive English :: https://www.youtube.com/@hololiveEnglish
Hololive Indonesia :: https://www.youtube.com/@hololiveIndonesia
>pic related

The Hololive English channel looks unkept and devoid of content. The indonesia one looks at very least like someone properly took care of it and used the tools the site allows them to promote the content they want to promote

>>41496324
Their strategy/niche clearly wasn't working for Stars from the start, and I still believe it was a mistake attaching the "holo" part of the name to their brand, it added a stigma to them that will probably never go away.

Anyways, this is just some random chit-chat in some trash message board, it's worth about as much as some bar small talk, if Yagoo wants to throw his money in the trash bin he's free to do so.

>>41496572
they have forsaken this place
deserved t b h

>>41496500
her manager let her do what she wants, just want kobo to be happy but obviously there are some rules

>>41496602
they need to fire omega

>>41496632
>her manager let her do what she wants
this is why she's reclining

>>41496559
His spanish accent sounds disgusting

>>41496565
>Vtuber outside japan is bad
yeah i know

>>41496602
they actually only focused on tempus main channel right now

So what the fuck happened in the last thread ??? Did doxcord subhuman raid us ?

>>41496273
>>41496602
And here is what they have for content. Again, there is no reason for the indonesia channel to have more content since ID3 than HoloEN in their whole channel

There are a lot of things that HoloEN could do that would be a quick win. Properly tend to their main channel is one of those and depends on nobody body the girls, their personal managers and their branch managers

>>41496638
Ayame after getting anal fucked by a stallion

>>41496738
there's no jannies today, so it's basically total anarchy

>>41496137
Oh, that's clever, I guess that's a pro for you

>>41496572
Let him cook, this is miles better than doxx and chicken parmesan

>>41496738
I dunno, but that sister didn't post my favorite. Tomoe is pretty but she's no Naraka.

>>41496572
Be the change you wish to see in the world

>>41496500
Her manager is the one who recommended her to pick 2023 strawberry seeds during new years eve, I don't think she's smart

>>41496796
brb, going to /ggg/ /ehe/ and /uoh/ to check if they went crazy gonna stay in /hag/ for some time

>>41496738
Happy Chink Year celebration tonight, the SEA Jannies aren't available.

>>41496743
anon, their memes, their animators, the reddit, the hololive_en twitter, all of them are used for shilling stars. Do you get it? It's a lost cause. EN management are retarded as fuck. I swear there's also a clipper working behind tempus right now because vesper keeps putting out DnD clips. The clipper strategy was Ame's idea and they got accepted for tempus real fast.

>>41496390
>and one Lamy
Her rights as Lamy were revoked

>>41496706
I think it better not to title it as handcam stream, she just reading new year SC for more than an hour, tourist will feel cheated if they have to wait for more than an hour just for aircraft build.

>>41496743
The problem is the difference in personal income
IDs earn way less than ENs

>>41496273
>>41496743
More on that
>StarsEN content in their main channel already caught up in number of videos with the "12 days of Christmas" 2021 video from HoloEN.

I wouldn't doubt if in six months time there will be more videos in that channel than in the HoloEN channel, and that include the SEVEN (!) chuuni videos done for Council debut lore.

>>41496263
I would lick that bush clean

>>41496903
Read >>41496500
>saved for another stream

>>41496909
>IDs earn way less than ENs
See >>41496919, that justification would go right out of the window because StarsEN supposedly hires from the same pool as HoloEN.
Difference in wages cannot possibly be the reason

>>41496919
They really fucking bet everything on the homos.

>>41496862
Pretty fucking much. Like Fauna had to beg EN fagnamegement to do something for Halloween and homoen2 gets an animation that..steals Hololive memes they were never part of?Huh?

>>41496796
is that right? no more deadbeat janny?

>>41496862
the vesper dnd is just a normal 1hr recording simply cut into many small parts to cover for his break, but ill give you the rest

>>41496960
>>41496862
based Cover homoCHADS

>>41496960
Yagoo is going insane, they had absolute lead everywhere

>>41496919
>Tempus2 gonna beat Tempus1 group song
Kek

>>41496952
I'm talking about the talents. HoloEN earns way more than StarsEN and HoloID. Tell Kronii that she needs to use those 2-3 "working" days a week for recordings for the main channel that nets her nothing compared to her SC reading streams, lets see how fast she gives you the middle finger

>>41496951
Tbh, she done more handcam stream than EN branches, i don't think it gonna effect her than much, also aircraft building suck, i like the mealworm one.

Holo vs Holo even when they're going to win gold. Was it that unsatisfying?

>>41496638

so this is why Ayame has IBS. i can see clearly now.

any artist like camonome but with chuubas?

>>41496993
deadbeat janny is absolutely worthless anyway. They sit in that thread and ignore the rest of the board.

>>41497034
no id uses 2-3 working days a week for the id channel, dont be retarded

>>41497013
Yagoo is probably happy they're doing better than Uyu (100-200 ccv), thats how low the bar is.

ah yes they are hiring new jannies tmr. brace for sdumb shit getting you banned.

Are you following the path that Abe wants for you, anon?

>>41496738
The only janny left is the anti /ringo/ one

>>41496833
Yeah I think ID management is way more retarded than EN

>>41497055
Tempus isn't Hololive. They aren't even Holostars; they're a shitty combination of twitch and NijiEN with a fanbase full of Niji sisters.

>>41497157
now this is cope

>>41497142
More retarded but less of an Agenda Andy, and being one of those amplifies even minor retardation

>>41497094
>why make millions when you can make thousands

>>41497142
Impossible. No one is more retarded than EN management.

>>41497093
Jesus Christ, it's so fucking tiring trying to talk with you. I'm referring to Kroni not willing to sacrifice her "working" days that appear on her schedule for these recordings for the main channel, not that she needs to spend 2-3 days a week for the main channel

>>41497055
No one regards this misbeggotten abortion of a male branch as "holo" faggot.

>>41497094
Yagoo is just diversifying his market. I don't understand how people can't seem to grasp this simple concept

>>41496833
>>41497142
you mean this stream?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AH46P2w1egM
its her stream with most views ever since her birthday.

>>41497142
I think they just choose those because it viral on tiktok

>>41497128
Yes, but hag is a big no for me.

>>41497193
kek, here is a short list of talents managed by upd8
>they managed to fail with THAT ROSTER
No vtuber company will EVER be more incompetent than upd8

youtube is blueballing watame's 10k again

>>41497232
There would be no complaints if the EN branch was not in full retreat from the girls vtuber market at the same time

>>41497263
Zombi-ko . . .

>>41497258
crazy

Somehow I found someone got job at Cover as moderator at least from two months ago

>>41497216
>boosting your branch's channel is a sacrifice

>>41497234
And it stayed at 2k ccv for most of the stream

Any of you apply for janny when it was up a few days ago

>>41497232
because they are sacrificing holoen support and views for it

>>41497297
>sacrificing stagnation while laying the groundwork for future expansion and growth
retard

>>41497317

>>41497312
Please tell me it was not that Xander(? Xavier? Something with X) guy that used to post holostars stuff on the Hololive reddit and that ragequit in a fit of seethe for the boys not to have the same opportunity than the girls

>>41497324
good thing she gets paid from views and not ccv.

>>41497232
Imagine Apple "diversifying" by not making any new iPhones and focus all resources on something new.

>>41497361
groundwork for Males yes
I can understand them being jealous of the success of NijiEN Luxiem and Noctyx, but sacrificing the girls is totally braindead

>>41497311
This pic would be much sexier if she's clean shaven

Okay Kronii time I guess

>>41497385
>wear the apple watch, chud

>>41497412
Not for me, it's a primal thing

>>41497312
what moderator?

https://youtu.be/Skp_TUkrS54

Pekora already planned her roadmap for this year, any prediction anon ?

>>41497375
why would it be some random redditor

>>41497406
They thought the girls would get boosts the same way nijien girls did :)

>>41497361
That's an interesting bet. Let's see if it pays out.
So far it looks like they sacrificed 10 "stagnated" girls on a 4k+ average for their "Sana Line / Kiara Line" for so far 8 boys on a 3k ceiling for most of them, with some "buffed" sub 5k streams.

>>41497479
The whole incident with them shutting down the hololive reddit and making all the redditors seethe happened because some random holostars fan on a semi-private discord told them to do it
They are absolutely that retarded

>>41497479
Aren't reddit moderators terminally online redditors doing it for free?
That bloke would fit the bill

>>41497460
hint: its something to do with jill-sama

>>41497385
They are already doing it, from iPad, Apple tv, Apple music, etc and soon to be Apple ev.

>>41497312

i would not be surprised if Hiroshima sells mod roles to companies. however if the unironically have a cover employee modding here hes doing a "bad" job.

>>41497439
Kek. So people need to seethe on the Apple watch since they did not release the latest Iphone.

>>41497490
Seethe, homos get better numbers than shitters like Kiara and mumei.

>>41497541
Their point was to imagine a hypothetical scenario where they entirely stopped making new iPhones and just stayed at the iPhone 11 forever to focus on making more $1600 monitors

sorry watame, 10k is for grown ups only

>>41497375
Nah, just look at LinkedIn
>>41497459
Looks like stream moderator.
>Dealing with technical and human errors during streams.
>Ensuring Copyright and outside companies' rules are protected

>>41497487
but NijiEN debuted even more girls, same with NijiJP
acceleration might be a meme but it garners more new fans, even when they already watched someone else

>>41497541
The apple "car" has been stuck on the concept stage for the better part of the past 8 or so years.

>>41497490
>short-sighted, short-term vision
Myth and Council were bringing in NO new fans. Tempus brings in an entirely new market. Just keep releasing waves until you strike gold.

>>41497490
The girls absolutely don't have a 4k average faggot, and most of the homos fall beneath 3k. If the homos were EN girls instead, we'd see a goddamn renaissance of Holo content with far higher numbers. Stop larping.

>>41497578
Yeah because Cover totally stopped auditions for HoloEN right?

>>41497606
>responsible for securing perms and unfucking streams
That's just a personal manager, not a "moderator".

>>41497517
>semi private
while having t-chan taking actions directly from that server was absolutely retarded, the fancord is public isn't it?

>>41497541
The differenceis that apple still release their phones every year despite it being the same as last year, Cover stopped debuting EN and JP last year in favor of Stars. Of course it didn't work.,

>>41497606
is this what shinri was talking about? that the starsEN management don't even supervise their streams, only watch clips

HoloEN fans are all talk but can't do shit if this shit mess happened on the JP side you know JP fans would do something drastic against management.

>>41497541
You completly missed the point

>>41497649
Anon? The lower tier en girls have below 4k average. People like Bae, mori, Kiara and mumei are at 4k averages

dont bite the bait

>>41497412
What a fag

>>41497665
They haven't re-advertised them in a year, whereas they posted reminders about the homo ones 4 times in 6 months. If this is because they got enough applicants already then where are they

>>41497679
It's not always open to join and it's not really advertised anywhere

>>41497697
>mumei
>4k average
retard

>>41497679
nope you couldnt see their chat from public preview

>>41497649
>The girls absolutely don't have a 4k average faggot
Anon, they do have a 4k+ average on the very bottom, hence the "Sana line / Kiara Line" mention. Kiara was sitting on a 4.3k average on the 16th

>>41497645
>Tempus brings in an entirely new market.
Let's wait and see if that checks out. So far it looks like they survive on the scraps of HoloEN unityfags and homobeggars

>>41497576
>homos get better numbers than shitters like Kiara and mumei.
They absolutely don't, except in very rare occasions that are almost non existent now.
Mumei in particular, she greatly outrank all of them twice over

>>41497735
>homo auds got advertised several times in 2022
God thats fucking depressing to read knowing the late 2021 december aud posting was likely just for homos too.

>>41497735
Why would they advertise HoloEN auditions? They probably haven't sorted out every application that comes everyday.

>>41497665
>multiple "starsEN auditions are open guise" tweets

>>41497735
You can just google "hololive fan server" and it would show up as top result

>>41497807
2021 december aud said any gender or something like that

>perform worse than literally any holoEN
>s-seethe we are actually thriving
>muh new fans (like, 1k nijiEN fujos that will leave like they left their nijiEN fags)

This branch lost long ago. Call me a nijinigger all you want, but Riku would never have squandered Myth.

>>41497735
>They haven't re-advertised them in a year
Fuck..EN3 is going to be a bunch of Sana-tier nepo hires...

>>41497812
You know what, I'm not surprised if Cover management get the idea to release StarsEN from that discord

>>41496108
This is before or after The First Take?

>>41497841
>Salami
>Edengumi
Sure Nijisis

>>41497809
>They probably haven't sorted out every application that comes everyday.
I mean who the fuck is still available after having applied 1,5 years ago, 1 year ago, 6 months ago etc. They either HAVE to use recent auditions or try to get ancient auditions and see if they're still down, which most of the time will come with upending some girl's life and then she'll underperform 100% since I guarantee it will be something like
>h-hahha yeah I started uni in that time

>>41497839
Every aud they so for EN has said that even Myths aud said it way back then. Shu from NijiEN even fell for the same meme because they said it for Councils too and we know starsEN wasnt even on the table now for those 2 auditions run after producing myth and council. The dec 2021 auds produced Tempiss and nothing else so it stands to reason it was always for starsEN and never a girls gen.

>>41497812
Being able to find it by googling its exact name or looking on a wiki does not mean its existence is obvious
The guy who runs that server posted on the hololive reddit once in the last year, and it was to defend their involvement in getting it locked

>1.2K FOR VALO
damn astel

>>41497809
>they probably haven't sorted out every application that comes everyday
myth, irys and council all debuted in some 5-6 months from their auditions. Tempiss as well. Thats a bullshit excuse that they could now suddenly not deal with the en3 apps anymore, in more than a year. They either didnt try, or someone who was accepted fucked up big time and got booted

On a completely unrelated note, if what Selen implied is true, this won't be the only Raid Shadow Legends we see out of NijiEN

>>41497864
that discord is filled with unitybeggars that will keep talking down on why holo should emulate niji in mixed gender collabs to be more entertaining and get bigger numbers
some of them even move on to spread the same shit at specific holos fan server too
they just move on to other servers when people get fed up or they get ban

>>41497921
nope the previous ones said that any gender could apply, but it was for a girl character. This one did not specify the gender of the character, and the banner promo had both holo girls and homos on it.

>>41497897
>giving up a guaranteed position because of time
Nigger even the two Tempus 2 guys waited half a year to debut. You underestimate how much people want to be a Holo

>>41497966
There's more?

>>41497966
>if what Selen implied is true, this won't be the only Raid Shadow Legends we see out of NijiEN
??
What'd she imply

>>41498017
>>41498016
Last night during the wrestlemania stream, some of them were jokingly announcing Raid instead of the AR live announcement, and Selen was telling them to stop because they weren’t getting paid to shill on that stream.

>>41497979
Omega truly hear discord plea

>>41498016
at least 5 more NijiEN Raid sponsorships iirc. what's the cut between Nijisanji and the talent for such sponsorships anyways?

>>41497232
This
Yagoo has the male audience market with Hololive. He's aiming to expant through the female audience market and holostarsEN is doing a better job than holostarsJP

>>41497963
>They either didnt try, or someone who was accepted fucked up big time and got booted
Or they never tried to find any EN3 girls because management already had a couple of their friends earmarked for the positions.

>>41498061
raid sponsership is to pay for the "live"

>>41497924
Just because it's existence is not obvious doesn't mean that it's a semi-private, server, still a retarded action though

>>41497979
I wouldn't be suprise if these faggot in those fancord too.

>>41498061
best ever cut for a nij is 50%, from voice packs. So all we know is that its less than that

>>41498035
I don't get it at all. Raid Shadow legends is a meme for shilling, even Gura made that joke.

>>41498106
Yes, the part that makes it semi-private is that they periodically turn invites on and off, so sometimes you can't join it

>>41497579
Who's you're oishi?

riku should just buy the sidebranch and give them the 3d show these ensharts want

>>41497963
>forgetting the absolute shitfest that was Sana
They had to rehaul everything because Council caused Myth to recline.

https://twitter.com/uraakapeko/status/1617186058688679937?s=20&t=hM2zAqoSqACqektBKvnEZg
She is buying random cute stuffs again

>>41498087
that would truly be grim

>>41498115
Wasn't it Kuzuha that said he gets most of his money from Voice packs?

>>41498151
rich fuck
invest back it into your stream

>>41497966
So did Reimu read a script?

>>41498117
Nijifriend trying to hype that Raid sponsor up is so funny because the entire meme around Raid Shadow Legend is that literally anyone can get it, it ain't special and is low value

>>41498151
Pekora likes tanuki so much

>>41498192
You'd have to pay me to watch Reimu.

>>41498192
Kek. Do Israelites actually?

What's needed to keep holoEN alive isn't EN3, that's coming either way. It's a shift in how they view things. It's an understanding that if they debut EN3 and then wait 500 more days with 2 homo gens inbetween, we're back to square fucking one.

EN and ID have never ever been HoloJP. They should have debuted a lot to consolidate the market, not fucking treat them as some yearly thing. Unironically what they did for tempiss was the RIGHT call but taken out of the context where it could be the right call (though I think 8 months is the sweet spot, not 5).

>>41498137
settle down newfriend, i was just unjixing it

>>41498137
What a fucking newfag, not recognizing the grown up spell.

>>41498274
The "you're oishi" didn't tip you off, newfriend?

>>41498228
Tanuki is a cute youkai in Japanese culture. Make me wonder why Yokai Watch is not more popular, it's full of popular youkais in Japanese culture drawn in a cute way
Gegege no Kitarou was good too

>Ban Hada is takinga break because someone crashed into her house
>Moona Hoshinova is worried because she crashed her dad's car into somebody's house

>>41498151
is that chocolate? sinful woman..

migo...

>>41498061
No idea, but a channel the size of Reimu's is probably getting 2k upfront and 2 to 4 more from meeting certain goals.
t. shilled raid on stream

>>41498308
Ban Hada is korean

>>41498297
Irony

>>41498307
>popular youkais in Japanese culture drawn in a cute way
2hu

>>41497921
weren't tempus picked late May/April?

>>41498349
Moona is in Korea?

>>41498254
There shouldve been 3 gens before 2021 ended with 1 in 2022. Cover is limited on EN by amount of support staff theyre willing to hire for the EN branch.

>>41497963
They said something in the fall that potentially indicated that someone was booted.

>>41498349
Ban Hada lives in Australia

>>41495975
People have lost hope. Ive lost hope. Now i just watch Fauna,Mooms and Ina while ignoring the rest. I dont care about the EN branch anymore

>>41498087
>long time with open auditions
>new gen ends up with a nepo hire
kinda reminds me of vshojo ironically

>>41498373
I would assume they were because they had to stress male applicants were wanted in early March not a new audition or anything just that male applicants were wanted from the open auds they had since 2021s December

>>41498467
even so, thats a second 5-6 months, even if it happenned at the very limit. So where are they? Did they fuck up a fucking second time?

Rolling Stone reposting their Mori article.
https://twitter.com/rollingstonejp/status/1617178861661466625

>>41498499
Unironically i think axel is a nepo hire.

>>41496862
To be fair Vesper is the one who hired one of his old friends to edit clips for him.
> Editing by:
> https://twitter.com/AkashiVtuber

>>41498580
>vtubers trending because of TFT
you gotta do what you gotta do

>>41496862
Ame invented clipping

>>41498505
The march announcement is why expected En3 in June or July since that was 6 months after open auds and i guessed starsEN for October since that was 7 months after march.

>stocks are crasking and need a boost
>Salome starts inclining
RIKU CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLCjRb63xKo
RIP Fauna

>>41498696
>FOTM
>rare horror game
Those numbers aren't even good enough for bots, you'll see them when they start.

>>41498586
at least they didn't waste some clueless indie's time for over a year just to debut one single orbiter everyone else had seen coming

>>41498696
she had to reach the end of the game eventually

>>41498729
There is not a lot of bleed from Fauna to Ame, even in a variety stream

>>41498729
why is she even stream on this time slot?

>>41498729
Fauna didn't even lose views to an Ame unarchived karaoke

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rB-o44QJxQ8
This is chill
>7k when the stream hasn't started yet

>>41498499
I wouldn't be surprised if there's a couple of EN3 girls that are so incompetent that they make even the most normal of normalfags question how they got hired.

>>41498729
Fauna will get her usual 8k but ame and mumei will do better

>>41498772
Her last like 3 streams have been on this slot its the most consistent shes been

>>41498729
>Not Ina
She's safe

>>41498791
is day 2 of Wrestlesanji today? Otherwise this will EN Gold

Hypothetically speaking, would they be allowed to pre-record gaming streams and then release it as a premier when on break? Even if they cut up say a 3 hour stream into shorter videos and release like Let's Players do every few days.

>>41498729
The average Fauna fan doesn't care much for Ame.

>>41498772
She literally calls 6PM EST "Ame time"

>>41497979
Screenshots for proof? They rarely talk about niji there unless it's in the proper channels

>>41498861
>would they be allowed to pre-record gaming streams and then release it as a premier when on break
Doesn't even need to be on a break- Didn't both Laplus and Kobo done it before?

>>41498838
>is day 2 of Wrestlesanji today?
Yes

>>41498883
Which is fucking retarded because she is never consistently there

Debut StarsES now! Time to DIVERSIFY the market.

>>41498729
>Both set up to give the retarded owl funnels

>>41498838
Gold doesn't matter. She just needs to beat the HoloEN karaokes

>>41498883
Truth be told she's not streaming on "AMT" for the longest time now.

>>41498883
Funnily enough, Fauna's fans call it "FST"

>>41498934
It's a terrible accent

>>41498934
gen 7 now

>>41498812
nah, come on, they wouldn't pull that shit, would they?

>>41498942
There is a non 0 chance Fauna outstreams Mumei because Sunday is her "long stream" days

>>41498838
How can holoEN compete? They're going to lose 2 wheelchair months in a row kek

>>41498988
Is he from Chile?
Sounds like Nimu instead of my telenovelas from MX, ARG, Columbia and Venezuela.

>>41499044
nimu is Colombian, isn't she?

>>41496602
>>41496743
En management doko

>Enna already at 10k
FlopRySbros...

Here anons, to kick off today's malding and doomposting
>Enna in the tally

Enna has been blessed by the mandate of heaven today

>>41498891
lmao sapkeks

>>41498988
he soud like sr Pelos
https://youtu.be/Ozg4xGZZy28

>>41499035
Nijisanjis accelerate finally hit critical mass of starting to be able to rotate events and HoloENs biggest crutch Gura is dead its over

>>41499098
I'm guessing this is because of Chinese New Year

>>41499089
Damn, Enna must have 7k average streams now right?

>>41499158
Meant for
>>41499040

holoEN really are nothing without gura, can't even win cripple tally

https://youtu.be/XLCjRb63xKo
Gacha + handcam, this has good numbers potential no?

>>41498355
Yeah but like I was always under the impression that it is more popular cause I grew up watching the anime

>>41499258
Yes. Probably 10k minimum.

fagoo king of the faggots, you are nothing without womens.

>>41499199
Anon here >>41499158 is right. NijiEN now has 3 Lazulight, 3 Obsydia, 4 Ethyria, 5 Luxiem, 5 Noctyx, 6 iLuna and 6 XSoleilX totalling 32 streamers in their roster.

They could get one of them per week to do something "eventful" and get 1k or less the rest of the year and they would have enough munition for eight months

>>41499137
as a sapling I do not know this faggot, + discord sc kys

>>41499258
She'll overlap Fauna's penumbra so not really
That's not even her timeslot anymore. i dunno why she's streaming so early

>>41499083
no, she's ARS, reimu is colombian

>>41499044
He is from the north of MX they do have a different accent than the center or south. Telenovelas try to have either a center accent or a neutral one.

>>41499251
Gura alone holds more value than the rest of Hololive so...

>>41499438
Chumsharts really believe this. Nice non-existent value right now

>>41499137
is that the same discord the reddit mod hangs out in

>>41499258
might even beat finana 3d

>>41499438
you're going too far

>>41499438
yes, value of being the mascot of EN

GO ENNA GO

Yeah FlopRyS didn't do as well as expected

>>41497414
you forgot to include cpposting
also shit on yagoo is the new meta

>>41499555
Irystokeks...

>>41499561
fk yagoo this faggot i hate him

>>41499555
Nothing against IRyS but Enna is on another level compared to her on English songs

>>41499486
yeah that's the place where T-chan says no one influences their opinion when it's infested with beggars

>>41499561
>shit on yagoo is the new meta

Good, im tired of seeing people support such a shitty CEO

>>41499405
If you haven't seen this past week, Fauna isn't worth shit. Penumbra is not a buff game because it's old jank garbage. Fauna will struggle to teach 6k again. I wish you fags would accept she's reclining and stop talking about her as if she's worth anything

>>41499555
ouch

This is the number to beat.

Here we go again

>>41496548
https://youtu.be/lil1Ffnl4qU
https://twitter.com/calliope_info/status/1617170724200013824?s=46&t=7HBDLQAaXrs6Fkui_n8mJA
Seki Jam "My 10 best songs of the year in 2022 chosen by professionals"

To Mr. Yoshio position Tsutaya

#MoriCalliope "MERA MERA" was selected!

After this, we will also release a live video.

>>41499670
5 more minutes and it's probably done

>>41499670
Xxx mas hyper-buff doesn't count

>>41499731
I am rooting for Enna but it won't be that easy.
She needs 1K more viewers.

Ah, Watame's at the final battle, she's already crying her eyes out during it.

Ame is, finally, creatively bankrupt, huh?

>>41499696
NijiENfags are proud of their shitters anon. Not like they won't be sub 3k shitters after this while IRyS enjoys a 7-8k median.

>>41499775
300 already from when I posted that

>>41499775
now lets see meloco's unarchive karaoke numbers

If Enna gets 15K, IRyS is officially dead and buried

>>41499802
She'd have to be able to speak and stream to enjoy it kek

Met has an 11k median this month?

Can she hold on for a 10k by the end.

>>41499797
How so? She went to japan, bought some gacha and want to open on stream

Mumei is becoming mysta 2.0 in how she only streams buff content now

>>41499877
>now
She goes in and out of this phase, depending how much time she actually has.

>>41499877
My cute owl is trying her best!

Aaaaaaand it's done, took 4 minutes.

>>41499877
Are we so far gone that we're gonna shit on people streaming popular stuff?

>>41499877
Mumei only streams basic shit anon. She's barely a weeb.

>>41499875
>Handcam
>Gimmick 3D
>Handcam
>Gimmick 3D
All with some zatsu sprinkled in between because she has to fuck off/come back from wherever she is

>>41499877
That's why we hate mumei here anon

>>41499877
numbers like it

AHHHHHHHHHHHHH THE KING IS HAUNTING ME

>>41499922
3k more and she beats gura