/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>42372492
kys

I've been subbed to Flare for about 3 years, I'm doing my part.

>>42372492
What did Nijisanji EN do this time?

>>42372492
sora took like 5 years so whatever.

>>42372492
Not if she tries to be entertaining for once

>>42372492
Good. Never expose the good stuff to normies.

>>42372492
Before her throat was kill, Choco had a real chance of pushing past Flare. Heck I still would give Choco a fighting chance although a long shot at this point.

>>42372492
something something cute and not cool something something
she'll get there eventually anyway but she kinda nerfs herself by her own volition

>>42372492
Noel will hit 2 million before Flare hits 1 mil

>>42372492
Yes. No one cares about or supports Flare. /vt/ saying otherwise is hypocritical bullshit, seeing as how they don't watch her either.

>>42372492
She making a killing off her dedicated gachis.
Her model would never take off cause Japs are racist.
Also she doesn’t want to do the tough girl LARP that suits her model.

Maybe worry about yourself, rather than this chick making more than 6 figures a year.

>>42372903
Anon as much as I'm not a fan of Flare, there is no way in hell that is happening
>Noel 1.62 million 50k in last 90 days
>Flare 956k 22k in last 90 days
Flare will hit 1 million around the time Noel is around 1.72-1.74 million.

>>42373053
Not sure if it is still true but back in the day in early 2021, Flare was #1 in blood from stone rating (SC / Subscribers ratio) What little she has, she makes the most of it.

>>42372978
I've watched Flare and there's a reason I stopped. Model debuff is a hell of a thing but she's also just not very good. Awkward niceties, not good at the games she chooses, spends most of it going "Oh?" and nothing else. She's just not improved either.

>>42372615
/thread

>>42372615
Its surprising how much people proclaim that Gen3 was the golden gen that cannot be equaled but when you break it down it really comes down to Pekora and Marine and the other 3 being adequate foils with interactions.

>>42372585
>something happened with holo
>niji niji niji!
>r-rent free!

>>42373795
Just Flare, honestly.
She is, 90% of the time, playing the straight man in every collab she's in. Which is great, but not so much in solo streams.

Rushia and Noel are Queen GFE and can hold their own with just the coomers.

>>42372492
>Singing don't improve much
>Collab in her own bubble only
>Stopped yuri bait and strong girl play
>Very few cover and original compare to the rest of sankisei
>Content with her gachikoi and want nothing more
She's just less ambitious than others

>>42373954
But that's my point, Rushia and Noel are just as good as Flare but when they are thrust into a collab situation they have the occasional highlight but they ride shotgun to the likes of Pekora and Marine.

>>42372492
She's that one character that stays at rank A to gatekeep rank S and you know it.

when she gets a million it will mean that much more to her and elfriends because she had to grind for it. Catching the covid wave gave Marine and Noel huge cases of impostor syndrome and is one of the reasons they are so Menhera today. Better the natural incline

>>42374795
Anon please, out of the gates based on RM only Noel was the clear winner of Gen3. It took a few months but fans realized that Marine and Pekora had more potential than Noel. Whatever potential Flare had she sold up the river by not playing up to her strengths. By mid 2020, Pekora and Marine had surpassed Noel and the tiers of Gen3 had ben solidified.

>>42374378
>Singing don't improve much
What are you talking about? Flare is easily one of the top 3 singers in Hololive

>>42373294
ok but have you considered this?

>>42373920
You have to admit that everytime niji have something canceled without refund the amount of anti holo thread skyrock.

>>42373920
>Something happened with Niji
>Holo Holo holo
>the boogeyman
You’re exactly alike

>>42374989
>top 3
chill. she's good but not that good.

>>42372492
aw

>>42372492
She's destined to be a flop forever, that's for sure.
People want Flare to be the cool and sexy, but she wanted to be cute and went with it regardless. Except the reason why Flare was hired by Hololive WAS her cool and sexy image. Her model is easily the most SEX out of the GOLDEN GENERATION of the MOST WELL KNOWN vtuber company. She could easily gain more success if she played her exotic coombait character properly (not good on its own, but it's better than nothing). Rejecting and stubbornly trying to change was a big mistake, now she's permanently stuck in a well endowed brown model that goes against her preferred aesthetic in an industry where people tried to match their avatar.
>Cunnies mog her in cuteness
>Other hags mog her in maturity
>The snow elf mogs her in GFE
>Her own genmates mog her in humor
>Fucking Kanata mogs her in tsukkomi
But wait, there's more!
>Wants to be seen as cute badly but breaks character too often when playing games
>Refuses to be the butt of the joke when bantering
>Pathetically unfunny bits like "I like loli!" or "I have ADHD and I'm angry!"
>Wet blankets any ship or collab partner by being prude
>Continuously using ugly chibi fanart from that one artist for her thumbnails
>Hard to schedule collabs with because of her secondary job
>Nothing to say in zatsudans, rarely shares anything about her private life, gachikois know nothing about her after watching for so long
>Refuses among us collabs because it hurts her feewings. Same with rust initially.
>Ruined Shiraken by recruiting too many members, also by being deadweight outside block game
So on so forth. By their own these are all salvageable, together they make a trash heap

So what does Flare have going for her?
>One of the best endurance singers in Hololive
but her singing voice and song choices are not exceptional... except with songs that could actually make use of her cool voice like Kaibutsu or Ussewa and not fucking Kokoro Odoro again
>Very feminine: Really kind to other holomem, smells nice, likes to recommend good beauty products
but none of that translates well to a good experience for an average viewer
>Good sense of architecture for a holo
but doesn't show it outside of block game and animal crossing.
>Barrage of orisongs on her latest concert
but all of them are bland and forgettable. No personality trait or lore gimmick to market. And where's the album?

I used to endure watching her for months. She's adjacent to a lot of holomem I like so I really want to like her too. But the more I watch the more of her flaws are exposed, the more I feel like I'm robbed from the full experience. She's an underdog without the underdog appeal. These days I don't bother watching her outside collabs.
Everything that went wrong with her is her own doing. And just like the broken MTL english in her outro, it will likely never be fixed. If Hololive didnt grow big she would have graduated by now. おつfuckingぬい.

>>42379343
Hey I read that in another thread!
There is a Flare schizo now?

>>42380015
>anyone who writes at length in a view I disagree with is a schizo

>>42379343
Not reading, schizo.
Flare is and always will be infinitely better than your oshi.

>>42372492

Whats good kagai nikkis.
Back at you with another stream!
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FUREA!

>>42372978
wrong actually
her mc streams were and are pretty fun
she is really good at teasing her fans
(a thing i still remember is her asking her kaigais if they love her and then saying in japanese: "see? why can't you guys be this honest")
sadly that can get her only so far when she focuses on going against her own strengths

>>42372492
Happy to see that some of the historical flops like Flare, Roboco, Choco, and Luna will most likely be hitting 1 mil before the whole hololive thing comes tumbling down. Mel and Aki, though... maybe not

>>42372492
flare WILL get to 1M in may!

>>42372492
name a more iconic duo than holobronies and numberfagotry

>>42384239
newfag

>>42384239
[this post has been redacted for racism]

>>42384285
you holobronies are truly the kpoop fans of vtubing

Her chat is almost exclusively green members, she has die hard fans, don't appearances fool you she is really successful.

>>42384624
how about you lurk 200 years before posting?
or better yet just kill yourself

>>42372492
im saving my sub for the 1 million endurance stream

>>42374989
>easily one of the top 3 singers in Hololive
right there with suisei and marine right?

>>42377026
Correct.
Tribalfags on all sides are literally retarded.

>>42372492
Forget Flare, Aki is at 700k.

>>42379343
>おつfuckingぬい
I fucking love this pasta- it's not even that schizo. She's often near holomem that I do enjoy so I used to check her stuff now and then but holy fuck

>>42374398
Nah Rushia and Noel can still be entertaining solo for their menhera rage reactions at times.
https://streamable.com/ri1m9r

>>42372492
I kinda liked her since I heard the term coffee elf but she didn't like it and that kinda turned me away from her

>>42374378
>Very few cover and original compare to the rest of sankisei
What the fuck is this complaint? The only sankisei who's remotely doing songs is Marine, the others barely do it because they know they are bad.

>>42372492
Flare's based and she shouldn't give a shit if she doesn't appeal to normalfags.

>>42383390
>historical flops
>Roboco, Choco
They were two of the most popular back in 2019, before the era of CAMP.

>>42372492
She has a very loyal fanbase that consistently donates large sums of money. Worth a lot more than a subscriber number if you ask me

She's also doing it because she loves it. Not everything is about numbers

>>42384239
Hololive and numberfaggotry. You should've seen Flare when the Holoboom was in full effect.

>>42372492
Don't be a schizo. Fact is most gen's don't have all their members at 1mil. As far as JP goes, Gen5 was the only one to do it with any amount of speed, and Flare will take about as long as Mio did to complete her gen.

NijiENfags and numberfaggotry.
Undisputable proof picrel. vrabi is one of the top tools of the numberfags. If holobronies are that strong in numberfagging, picrel should show lots of holos. But why is it dominated by NijiEN (plus Kaela for some reason lemao)
You can try to search it yourself to verify it.

>>42395890
stop laying faggot, /#/ is literally holofag central, try and talk nice about anyone in Nijisanji over there and see how it goes

>>42394093
Marin has the most song, Rushia did plenty when she still alive, then Peco and Noel. Noel is the worst singer, but she improved.