/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>42424506
t. Millie

>>42424506
They both should graduate

>funny
>hi 4channers

>>42424506
Because Mori has a million unhinged white knights who spend their entire day checking any and every thread for any mild criticism and Millie doesn't.
Just try it, go into a random thread and say that Mori's bad at Persona or something. You'll get a million (you)s.

Can you show me the part where Mori called her kouhai flops?

I didn't think it was funny

>>42424571
But why would you go to unrelated thread that has nothing to do with Mori to talk about Mori?

>>42424571
Wouldn't that mean she just has a lot of dedicated fans then?

>>42424506
Because Enna is a legitimately bad person. Enna fucked up the GC by spirit bombing 4chan right at the start of it and in the middle of her NTR stream with Kyo interlocked fingers with him and kicked off that drama as well. Enna is a legitimately horrible person and I am not even saying that as a rrat or kayfabe. Also I would destroy Millie with the bwc I inherited - which is another reason we should blame Enna and give Millie a pass. Enna is a troublemaker and outed herself as an actual dramawhore 4chan obsessed freak, if she had a /cgl/ pl revealed tomorrow I would not even bat an eye.

>>42424506
Mori have rly few actual fans, just see her abysmal streaming numbers...

And her music have stagnated a lot too

>>42424506
>>funny, meta jokes, original ideas
>hi 4channers

>>42424618
I didn't say unrelated. I meant threads where you can respond with Mori.
For example, OP asks for most cringe streams and you link Mori meme review.

>>42424506
Easy, one is nijishit

>>42424571
>he actually did it
Kimoi

>>42424506
>funny, meta jokes, original ideas
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As expected from fans of a company branch where POG! DEEZE NUTS! SUSSY MONKAS! are top tier jokes in 2023.

I thought the niji stream was in bad taste because they were taking shots at their coworkers who aren't themselves. It was also a poor representation of whoever the hell it was aimed at because there wasn't enough schizoprenic antiposting and view this place entirely as an outsider would, and therefore they have outed themselves as not just tourists to /vt/, but 4chan itself as a website.
As for Mori she's just taking a piss at whatever without hurting anyone other than herself.

>>42424640
No, it means what i want it to mean.
Chumnigs are as retarded as their oshi

>>42424591
>T. Millie
Go to sleep millie, take your suspension seriously.

>>42424506
One can and the other one can't, this is the third or fourth thread about this exact same issue and the answer is shockingly still the same. This isn't more of a double standard than liking water and not liking dog food is.

>>42424760
And you mean it to mean that she has a lot of dedicated fans

>>42424771
im talking about the gc stream retard

>>42424572
why is /vt/ mad at the flops jab?
/vt/ is the one calling them flops in the first place

>>42424640
Being a fan doesn't mean being a brainless yesman. Look at Millie's fans during this fiasco. They're mostly criticizing her for doing this dumb shit.

>>42425088
Sucks to be Millie

>>42425088
>Look at Millie's fans during this fiasco
Millie unironically lowkey mocked her fans and called them incels with Enna.
Mori collabed with Connor and got the condom akasupa. That lead into the lean saga that made her have a mini meltdown. Dont pretend like holo fans are mindless yesmen.

>>42425077
I thought it was funny, but not by design.

>>42424506
speak for yourself, I think Mori is the worst member of Myth, I would watch any Ethyria girl instead of her. I would go as far as watching Ame if I had to choose between the two

>>42424506
most of us think she's cringe, i don't think any haters even watch mori anymore so it's just one big circlejerk with her own personal hugbox

i just don't like SEA """people"""

>>42424506
>Millie, Niji
Bad
>Mori, Holo
Good

>>42425077
You can check the archives, it turns out they coined the term "flopsoleil" in that stream. No one had ever called them that before, ever. Fun fact

>>42425165
>>42425233
Spot on.
Mori has a bunch of dedicated viewers, but is disliked and now mostly ignored by everyone else.

>>42425260
They destroyed the fucking bronze age civilizations

>>42424506
What happened Millie, still mad that Mysta bitched about it?

>>42425111
>>42425088
>>42425146
>fans criticize Millie
>Millie criticize fans
It's a two-way street. Dead beats should take notes.

>funny, meta jokes, original ideas
This isn't true.
>YAASS SLAY QUEEN I LOVE MORI KAWAIIOPE
This is also not true.

>>42425551
Yeah ok I'll tell this to Millie as soon as she's done with her suspension

>>42424506
>Millie
>makes "antis owned" stream
>funny, meta jokes, original ideas
>"Funny"
Not laughing anymore when she gets terminated then.

>>42424571
>Bring up Mori in any unrelated thread
KYS

>>42425996
>Unrelated
?

>>42424506
>YAASS SLAY QUEEN I LOVE MORI KAWAIIOPE
Don’t bunch me in with the cúckbeats,
but to explain it, they are mostly tourists from discord and Twitter, they don’t really care about this and just have yaas qveen as the standard reaction to anything, they resemble K-pop fans in that regard

>>42426042
>ú
ew why are you french

>>42426029
>Just try it, go into a random thread and say that Mori's bad at Persona or something
>Any random thread
Anon...

>>42426161
>I was hovering on the mentioned reply from the reply above you that is referring to OP
Excuse my autism

>>42426042
kek, this fag is actually French
I didn't want to believe the last time they admitted it

>>42424506
I opened up Mori's stream, heard her finally say "J-chad" was cringe and thought "BASED" and then closed the stream. What else did she do?

>>42426223
You are excused, since your explanation is understandable

>>42424506
did you watch mori's stream? the whole thing was about making fun of herself and the vtuber grind mindset where you need a sexo model and are obsessed with numberfriending and growth. there wasnt really any making fun of haters in it. nezumori is supposed to be the sin of pride so she did a stream with that sort of character in mind. the only YAB thing she did was talk about how her censored boobs looked like balls and calling deadbeats zone boners who like to sniff her toesies. that and she said nigger a few times but she edited that out of the vod so it's fine

>>42424506
Millie is based
Mori is cringe
Big difference

>>42426964
>watch mori's stream
Sorry, I won't join the 5 remaining cuckbeats and torture myself.

>>42425551
As a former deadbeat, I'll say that Mori's comments were always the first to shit on her for every single one of her pre 2.0 yabs, including the Gura vs Gigguk stream incident, the Ina one man collab incident, the Kiara King cover thing and all of her assorted yabs in her early days.
We used to do it because she welcomed it and took it in stride for the most part.
But later on once she felt she got "big enough" (label signing and all) she started doing the same thing all women do - equating legitimate criticism with anti behavior.
The lean arc was the culmination of it, along with all the blatant lying to protect some anitube retard who wouldn't give her the time of day if she wasn't associated with Hololive.
A lot of deadbeats realized that this is who she was, that she wouldn't be "improving herself" from criticism anymore.
And so a lot of the more "I criticize her because I want her to be better" type fans just left. And now she's left with people who will say "yaaas queen" no matter what the fuck she streams or releases.

The theory that Cuckbeats are mindless is pretty accurate.

>>42425077
/vt/niks are subhuma, so copying whatever /vt/ says is bound to get hate

>>42424506
One is a white woman. The other is a subhuman.

>>42424506
If you enjoy rap then you have an IQ below 20

>>42427922
agree, how is repeating hate comments for chat to eat up "dale is my oshi" doing anything other then encouraging that type of thing

>>42426964
Anon, you're in a catalogthread. Of course these niggers aren't watching streams, so they wouldn't known about Mori dropping facts about the Bell Curve before Susan shut her down.

>>42427117
Except she laughs at a bunch of that stuff now. She's made a few references to how rerarded she was during the whole lean thing. She's not above taking real criticism to heart. Or making herself the butt of a joke.
But when the criticism challenges things she firmly believes or wants, or are blatant attacks against her from people only trying to make themselves feel better or start drama, then she is right to dismiss them.
If you really think she's only gotten worse, that's fine enough of a reason for you to leave. But I would say you let the shit posted here warp your perception a bit too much.

>>42425077
The total fucking faggots on /vt/ aren't her coworkers, anon. There's a big distinct difference between a customer calling you trash, and a senior coworker calling you one.

>>42428382
Hi, Mori. It's pretty cringe coming /here/ to try and defend yourself.

>>42428382
> But when the criticism challenges things she firmly believes or wants
Yeah that part's the one which I meant with "A lot of deadbeats realized that this is who she was".
Most deadbeats were pretty happy about Mori appearing on Trash Taste initially, because in meant something similar to what The First Take is, but with the anime community.
Those 3 are the biggest anitubers on Youtube right now, and I guarantee you that at least 50% of EOPs who are watching holos right now started off with one of their videos.
It's only later that Connor made that retarded take with Ironmouse, and later Joey's thing with Nene that soured some people on them, but back then they were seen as very adjacent to EN chuubas.

Mori lied for this dude btw. Lied to her fans, that this dude had privately apologized to everyone individually (Kiara later revealed that nothing of the sort happened).
I understand wanting to "defend" your friends, which is a noble quality to have. But lying for it? To people who enable you to do what you do?
That's going a step too far.

Also, if she's reflecting on her past stupidity nowadays, then good for her. I for one no longer care, but maybe some other old deadbeats will find it somewhere, and might perhaps be more forgiving.

One of them fucked up so badly she had to apologize to her own coworkers who may or may not have even been aware of the stream or felt uncomfortable the moment things went south. Not only that but they took down the VOD, pretend it no longer exists, and the last stream she did was a Plate Up collab before going silent.
The other one has her VOD up with nothing done to hurt her coworkers.

I didn't really think Millie's stream was that funny. I thought Mori's stream was.

>>42424506
It's because nobody cares about Mori anymore
Nobody here's supporting her that wasn't already

mori didn't have to take her stream down like a bitch, this makes all the difference

I like mori

>>42424644
>we should blame Enna and give Millie a pass
I'm seeing a lot of this cope lately. It's pathetic. Take accountability

OP here, I haven't watched either of those streams, and to be frank I don't even know what Mori's stream was about. I just hate deadbeats and nijiniggers.
Peace

Weel, I'm sure Mori didn't just go
>KRONII AND VESPER ARE DATING?? UNFORGIVABLEKRONII AND VESPER ARE DATING?? UNFORGIVABLEKRONII AND VESPER ARE DATING?? UNFORGIVABLE
nor
>HI 4channers! she is /here/
I actually wouldn't know, I didn't watch the Mori stream kek

>>42424506
I love Mori Kawaiiope.

>>42424506
it's okay Millie, do a lewd ASMR and maybe I'll join your membership

>>42424506
Nijisanji bad

>>42428382
I will never forgive Mori for Youtube Music Weekend

>>42427117
>>42430667
so how did kronii work out for you

>>42424506
one is hololive, other is nijisanji
simple as

>>42424506
>funny, meta jokes, original ideas
None of those things are true.
She was too much of a pussy to behave like the actual /vt/ because she'd get fired.

>>42425456
probably a variety on flopsanji relevant to how everyone bashed Iluna and xsoleil

Mori was making fun of the attention-seeking culture and of herself at some extent, she literally did nothing to "own le haters" besides maybe referencing the numberfags?
i don't get how you retards are even comparing that to Millie's shitfest

>>42424506
You're the exact type of person she was making fun of and it's hilarious that you bit so hard on it

>>42435532
The last one she did was pretty good. No >this is just like a liveshow but im really drained and didn't check the sound
crap
She made sure her takes submitted were good. And she got better feedback as a result. It was something people were telling her to do since the first one but she's a stubborn girl.

>>42424506
White privilege, unironically

>>42437391
Give me the link so I can check please. Maybe I can forgive Mori if that's the case.

>>42435720
? I don't watch ENs anymore. Never watched much of council either. Just leaped into JP.

>>42424506
>>funny, meta jokes, original ideas
Even the livers themselves dont think this

The difference is that Mori has been doing this shit for years. Millie started embarrassing herself recently.

>>42424506
>where does this double standard come from?
Your ass

>>42424506
Kys Millie, every time you post here is another day added to your suspension

>>42438519
oh then kys dogfucker

>>42438002
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6nFmhaLr-g
It was a good showing

Why do threads like these exist if no one posting in them actually watches the content being discussed
It's just some bizarre anti circlejerk

I want Luxiem to graduate...

>>42439046
good day to you too

>>42424506
Double standards and "us vs them" mentality are common social phenomena that can be seen in various aspects of /vt/, including agency, oshi, generals, genres, and more. They involve treating people differently based on arbitrary characteristics, creating unequal treatment and division between groups.

Double standards occur when different standards are applied to different people or groups within /vt/. For example, when a person is praised for being assertive, while another who acts the same way is criticized for being bossy. This creates an imbalance of power, as some people are privileged while others are discriminated against.

The "us vs them" mentality, on the other hand, is a form of division that pits people against each other based on arbitrary differences within /vt/. It's a way of thinking that creates an "in-group" and an "out-group," leading people to see others as different and inferior. This division can be seen in many aspects of /vt/, such as between different agency parties, oshis or idol groups, or cultural beliefs(unicorns).

Both double standards and "us vs them" mentality can lead to negative consequences for /vt/. For example, when people are treated differently based on their oshi, agency, or culture, it reinforces stereotypes and prejudices, and creates tension and conflict between groups. This division can also lead to /#/, general, and (You) inequalities, as people from certain groups are denied opportunities and resources that others enjoy.

In conclusion, double standards and "us vs them" mentality are harmful and divisive forces in /vt/. It's important to recognize and challenge these attitudes whenever they appear, and to work towards creating a more equal and inclusive /vt/. By treating all people with respect and fairness, we can break down these barriers and build bridges between different groups.

>>42424506
sucks to suck

Mori put herself out there. If she wasn’t funny, it was on her. If she stepped on a rake and I dunno, uncensored her tits, it was on her.

Meanwhile the Millie stream was the same cunts from Ethyria and the same greasy post-Luxiem groomers talking shit about the talents and fans who built up the branch whose carcass they’re now gnawing on.

Or to put it differently, Mori didn’t destroy something I enjoyed. These faggots did, so of course I’ll laugh at them when they fuck up.

>>42424506
You are telling me they both did the same thing and Anycolor suspended Millie while Cover gave Mori a pass?
Everybody says holos are oppressed by rules while nijis can act freely. I guess it was a lie huh.

>>42424644
Evidence or stfu and stop blaming Enna for shit Millie is doing herself. Everything you wrote about Enna is fucking conjecture one after another excluding the Kyo shit which I fucking despise even when they put hands on top of each other. Enna doesn't come to this shit site anymore. Millie is a grown woman stop looking to blame other.

>>42424572
No-one said their kouhai were flops, Zion Lanza joked about her gen being a flop.

>>42424506
>rosemi has been tainted by sluts

>>42424506
Webm or transcript of Mori's video? aint giving that bitch a view.

Mori couldn't stand having someone out-cringe her huh

>>42444117
Can't taint what's already tainted by me

>>42446211

>>42425077
If a total stranger says that I suck, then I don’t care. If my coworkers said I sucked I would care. It’s that simple.

>>42425456
Slightly offtopic, but I'm genuinely wondering if a new gen came out that collectively didn't want to do unisex collabs (whether its a male or female only gen), would they be allowed to do it, or are they bound by contract to collab with the opposite sex
And if it was possible, I do wonder if their growth would be better or worse than the previous gens

>>42424506
>Hi 4channers XD
vs
>Your boy hit the lean XD
Peak comedy. Both of them need to graduate.

>>42424506
>meta jokes
>no all out war

>>42424506
Because hololive viewers are oldfags who don't watch stuff they don't like, while nijichuds are newfags who watch and complain about shit they don't like.

>>42425146
>mori wants the male attention she never got in highschool/college
>male fans call it out
>mental breakdown
LOL.

>>42424571
found the clipwatcher

>>42451352
>didn't even mention anything about the contents of her stream
>moricord faggot copy pastes stock response
Thanks for proving my point.

>>42424571
They come from r*ddit and a hugbox on Kiwifarms. They sperg the fuck out if you shit on the fat pink wigger, it’s pretty funny. It’s a small group but they infest every site just to report people for shitting on her.

>>42424506
Millie doesn't have a dedicated mod team who will ban you for badmouthing her

>>42424506
The difference is more people cared about Millie than there are people that still care about Mori.

>>42452646
>contents
why are you awake at 4am, indog?

>>42431413
this

>Millie
Gets her branch concert cancelled
>Mori
Still showing up for their concert with all new 3D outfits.

>millie
>makes fun of vtuber fans
>mori
>makes fun of vtubers who can't survive on anything other than clipbaiting I'M DRUNK I'M SASSY OH ALSO BOOBA TEE HEE
It's the intention that matters. Only an autist would think Mori was making fun of viewers instead of vthots as she has plenty of times in the past

>>42455191
Mori’s getting a new outfit soon too, right?

I don't usually like Mori but the stream was pretty fun and I forgot that it was Mori behind the camera. Very different vibes too

>>42444044
>Enna doesn't come to this shit site anymore.
How would you know that anon? Isn't even true. No, abstaining from an addiction for less than three months doesn't equal kicking the addiction.

>>42424547
spbp

>>42424571
I love how the replies immediately proved you right lol

>>42424506
The mori drama is legitimately hilarious. That girl is a lighting rod for trouble and it's funny every time.
The enna drama is just kind of disgusting and unsettling. A bad taste in your mouth.

>>42457698
love me a self-fulfilling prophecy

>>42425077
People are fucking stupid and cannot even consider the possibility that it was a member of xsoleil themselves who made up the term and rolled with it because they have a thick skin. People can speculate who was who in that collab, but we have no idea what happens behind the scenes. Millie is not the type of person who would do that kind of stream without having everyone involved, or on the loop at the very least.

>>42457836
I know it's hard to tell when you're a moron, but Millie and Enna are different people

>>42459042
she literally admitted that that was the case you fucking retard
give up

>>42424506
your free (you)

>>42452780
Go the fuck back

>>42452780
Kiwifarms dragged you because you’re an obsessive deranged twat. The oshii in question had nothing to do with it, lmao

>>42438628
Ouch…

>>42425077
Actually I'm going to have to fact check you
Flopsoleil was never used on /vt/ before that stream happened
They made that up themselves

>>42457380
Tomorrow at 11am JST.

>>42424506
Niji is irrelevant, ewww niji

>>42424728
Omw rn

>>42484781
>>42484933

>>42457698
Calling OP is retard isn't proving him right