/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>42445120
They care but a lot less

>>42445120
>>mori, ame, and kronii collab with males
Turned into massive fucking spergs trying to justifying their collabs
>Bae and mumei (and kaela, reine, anya, zeta and moona) collab with males
They don't justify themselves, they just did it and moved the fuck on.

>>42445403
80% this. The other 20% is because people will get pissy over anything and everything.

because some chubas actually try to use collabs to make entertaining content for each of their own target audience and some just collabs to "own muh haters" and fuck the unfortunate idol culture thing

>>42445120
why is this the 40th thread this week about this shit
everyone likes bae, fuck off

>>42445120
mating press

Set expectations early.
Mumei didn't make it weird.
Simple as.

>>42445120
Bae established it during debut that she’d do it, Mumei quietly buried the whole thing, and it’s been established as normal for ID.
>>42446215
On the contrary, Mumei made it so weird that you can’t really complain how it turned out.

>>42445120
Didn't you already make this thread earlier in the day and got BTFO?
Anyways I'll give the same answer I did again, Bae is a cute and nice girl who loves the company, sets expectations right from debut and is just trying to have fun without pushing an agenda. I don't really care about what the others did either quite frankly but it's harder to get angry at Bae since her approach was such that you only blame yourself if you do

>>42446215
I can't remember or did i miss when Mumei did a collab with males?

>>42446995
It was a group of stars with a group of EN girls. They all spoke Japanese and Mumei doesn't so she said like 2 words the entire time but it was a drawing game (Gartic Phone iirc?) and she does like to doodle.

>>42446995
Bae dragged her along to collab with JPstars pre-tempus. She basically didn't talk during the collab and has since affirmed she is in Hololive for the girls and won't do male collabs. OP is being dishonest implying it's an ongoing thing.

As for Bae, she didn't bait and switch people like the other male collaborators so she doesn't get the hate but she is still the runt of council exSana.

>>42447135
it wasn't EN girls. It was Bae, Ollie and Mumei and Bae and Ollie can speak jap where as Mumei can't. Mumei is almost certainly a 4chan user and probably saw the shitshow on here when it was scheduled and acted like a retard on purpose

>>42447563
Yopi...

>>42447135
I guess i did miss that indeed. Now that I searched for it i did find some clips and it was also on Iofi-s channel which i don't follow so that explains it.
Considering how the other 3 girls were all decent level of japanese speakers, mumei must have been put in a uncomfortable situation

>>42447241
>Bae [HEADCANON IN MY HEAD]
Mumei could've always refused to join the collab, it's not like Bae was holding her at gun point

>>42446995
Gartic Phone a year ago. Probably was just a combination of her accepting a collab invitation without thinking (she told Iofi she does this during their recent drawing collab) and the other girls not thinking it was important information because they already do male collabs.

>>42445120
Bae told everyone they would collab with males on debut, most left after hearing it.
Mumei got a lot of backlash but she doesn't male collab anymore so she learned her lesson.

>>42445403
>zeta lusting for axels cock is okay
>bae lusting for roberus cock is okay
>kronii lusting for vespers cock is not okay

>>42453099
I'm sorry you don't know how to read, faggot. Did Zeta and Bae sperg about males? No. Kronii did and she gets treated with a higher level of shit than the others.

>>42452992
Mumei didn’t really get much backlash at all. Just the usual schizos using it as an excuse.

>>42453987
mumei got a lot of backlash before the stream, and mumei is the most likely one to actually go on 4chan behind mori who flat out said she goes on /vt/, and then after acting like a retard on stream mumei got like no backlash after the stream

>>42454053
Anon, those were just the usual schizos that seethe at her very existence. Did you miss her first two months or something?

>>42453511
>im okay with a girl openly wanting to fuck a guy as long as she doesnt say she actually is just friends with him

>>42453987
Search the archives from a year ago. Sge got a lot of backlash.
>>42454053
>Mumei doesn't go to /vt/
She names streams abd drops subtle references to here all the time.

>>42454451
that's what I said. of all the holoen girls mori confirmed she goes on here. Of the other 9 I think most of them use /vt/ but mumei is the most likely candidate to use /vt/ after mori, who again said she goes on here

>>42454451
Once again, Mumei has rabid antis that hop on any excuse to shit on her. That’s not a backlash, that’s just the usual.

>>42454287
>openly wanting to fuck a guy

>>42454287
You got cocks on the mind, Anon. I imagine life would be easier if you just came out of the closet.

>>42454886
Whether they're male or female, Aussie cock is always on SEAfags' mind

>>42445120
The Kronii fan flipout felt extremely forced by dramafags I don't believe it's real.

>>42445403
>ame
>massive fucking spergs trying to justifying their collabs
Ame never bothers justifying anything for you retards. Stop lying

>>42458140
improve yourself

>>42461052
That was not justification.
She literally told you to go fuck yourself, just politely.

>>42461708
See why we hate her?

>>42461761
I can see why you, a whiny little bitch, hate her.

>>42458140
It wasn't the first one, it's the spergout over a handful of comments on the worms collab announcement. She could have just ignored it. Instead she addressed it like a retard

>>42445120
Bae has wasnted dick since before being Bae. its just consistency.

>>42461826
Was the 'spergout' along the gist of
>I can see some of you are upset by this but I will do what I want
?

>>42445120
Because she said she was going to make her fans third wheel with male collabs from debut. The others did not and ambushed their viewers with it

>>42447863
>She ask a friend for help setting up collabs
>Friend helps her get into a collab
>No, thank you
If you say no after someone does exactly what you asked them to help you with you are not getting that person to help you ever again. Add to it that Mumei has a hard time saying no to collabs in general and there is your reason why she was locked into whatever the rrat dragged her into.

>>42462738
Probably better to assume a genuine mistake than ill intent for that one, at least.

>>42462238
>wasnted
Every. Single. Time.

>>42445120
>mori, ame, and kronii collab with males
>everyone flips the fuck out
if by everyone you mean the 3 people that still care enough to shitpost mori hate, then that part's obvious
Ame still has goslings despite what /vt/ may tell you
And Kronii has simps only because of her model
>Bae and mumei (and kaela, reine, anya, zeta and moona) collab with males
>no one cares
Bae's audience aren't parasocial psychopaths
I have no clue about Mumei though, that one is truly confusing
As for Kaela, Reine, Zeta, and Moona, they're audiences are the most chill out on the Hololive branches
>B-But JP
They'd kill themselves as soon as Pekora was on the same screen as a man
Don't bring up the hypnosis stream, that doesn't count, it was done professionally

>>42462738
ffs, please stop anon. bae will never mention homos or put girls in uncomfortable situations. She kept it to herself.
That's why the pathetic bae antis only mention bae's numbers for shitposting material

>>42463855
>bae will never mention homos
What

>>42463730
>Kronii has simps only because of her model
This is an old and dead rrat.
Her model is pretty shit compared to everyone else.

>>42463730
Mumei deflected and made it about collabing outside the branch while downplaying that the first one scheduled involved guys, avoided talking to them on stream, then memoryholed it. Also, she stayed up all night to piggyback on Bae’s Haachama collab. Nowadays it only gets brought up by people actively trying to start shit. Also, Mumei has dedicated schizos who are just as likely to shit on her for not interacting with males.

>>42463730
>Ame still has goslings
None have posted since the Tempus arc and if they do it's ironic

>>42463987
You don't know what rrat means, do you newfag?

>>42463930
fuck it, holostars. my blain broken with too many reading inside here said homostars

Bae is a virgin and her parents keep her virginity safe in the cuck shed

>>42463730
jp unicorns are based

>>42463930
Bae doesn't talk about faggots in front of IRyS or the other girls

>>42445120
pretty sure kaela didn't have a collab at all with males beside the recorded message for her birthday and replying to the purple one in one stream
and wasn't mumei only for some corpo shilling one?

>>42469158
Kaela not having done one yet is more lack of interest than being against it is probably a better way to put it, and Mumei was Gartic Phone with Bae, ID, and StarsJP.

>>42445120
BECAUSE THE RAT IS SEX. KRONII IS A GOOK, AME IS A SPIC, MORI IS A WIGGER THEY NOT ON THE SAME LEVEL.

>>42445120
Why not?

>>42445120
I still support every of girl mentioned here, unicorns get the rope and kys

>>42445120
mumei literally did it once nearly a year ago and never did it again, she's been redeemed in our eyes, as for bae and all of ID, they're a lost cause, bae said she would do this since she debuted and ID does collabs with stars super often, sometimes multiple times per week, so they're just a lost cause to us

>>42461761
Whiny bitches like you deserve to be hated.

>>42445403
not really... the difference is that bae was upfront about doing it, kronii, ame and mori had never done holostars collabs and randomly started doing it all the time after their audience got used to them not doing it, ame and kronii especially leaned into the GFE angle, doing different ASMR and date streams, hence why people were more upset with them then others. as far as the ID's go, not a ton of people watch ID so less people naturally care, there's less people to be upset by it (and plus they do it so often now that they're just a lost cause)

>>42461813
>>42481954
kill yourselves, amelia is tainted goods

>>42481984
>mori had never done holostars collabs
lmao

>>42445120
>why does the rat get away with it?
Bae isn't popular

>>42482112
That means nothing coming from someone who's still living with their mom

>>42487907
One of the best /vt/ pictures

>>42488518
Not even top 100

>>42487907
I wonder when that anon can post the collage he's been making.

>>42481984
>ASMR= GFE
>Date streams
GSH

Bae can be forgiven because she's trying to poison them all with Vegemite.

>>42445403
This.

>Mori
Kept Gigguk collab a secret until it happened to dodge the backlash
>Ame
Farmed goslings early on, bitched at people who didn't like male collabs telling them to improve themselves, did a cucking bit with Altare out of spite
>Kronii
Straight up lied to her members and immediately broke that promise, "unfortunately because idol culture exists" etc.

The rest just collabed and more importantly never tricked people into thinking they'd pander to goslings

>>42445120
>mumei

>>42445120
2 things:
Setup expectation, don’t apologize.

Bae said she loves the stars since debut. ID are all male collabers.
Mumei didn’t justify herself, she just did it.
Mori, Ame, Kronii all hade weird talks and rants filled with weird double standards and accusations towards their fans.

>>42463730
Hoomans don't like male collabs but won't raise a stink as long as it's not common or unprofessional. Most understood that was a one-off thing so no one really cared much.

Plus good memes came out of those drawings.

>>42463730
>I have no clue about Mumei though, that one is truly confusing
To be fair, Mumei is more parasocial towards chat than chat is towards her. But it feels like she understands homo collabs wouldn't be a great idea. She may be airheaded on stream but she has one of the best heads in EN.

>>42482112
Nigger

>>42497048
Cuck

>>42493771
>poison
vegemite's good cunt, fuck off

>>42481984
I agree with you in spirit but saying that Bae was upfront while the others waited for tempus is a bit misleading. Bae speaks and understands Japanese while Kronii and Amelia did not so they didn’t really have the opportunity to interact with Stars content in the same way Bae did. If StarsEN was already a thing when they had their debut they may have been upfront about them right away.
This is hypothetical though. Further truth regarding them is that Baelz didn’t flip out and attack people for them not liking her being a yumejoshi about stars and tries to downplay it a bit while people like Kronii make it all about themselves and attack others spitefully when called out.

>>42481984
ID audience don't really care about male collab cuz they rarely got afflicted with mental illness like parasocial relationship

>>42497923
It's more like ID was always halfway to Niji attitude wise, so any serious gachikois would be filtered beforehand. ID audience is as schizo as any other by itself.

I think it's fair to point out Mumei didn't get a bunch of trolling superchats after she collabed with Stars JP that she was somehow dating one of them, and while I don't think she handled the situation particularly well, Kronii was the only one who had to deal with that shit in the first place, and management really dropped the ball on getting in front of that situation.

>>42503074
>insinuating she was dating one of them
Forgot the part where most of those supas probably came from catalogfags who probably spent the prior year calling her a tranny too.

>>42445120
neato