/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

I hope she's currently in a happy place not having 7k viewers for an outfit reveal although she expects 30k. Yup happy

>>43726926
She needs to make most out of what ahe got, easier said than done but I hope she finds the happy spot

Happy Termination Day! You should be happy with your current numbers and support instead of finding your former glory to no avail

Who do you think you are? Rushia still? You need to wake up Mikeneko

>>43726871
She'll be back

Man, has it really been a year since Hololive went downhill?

>>43726871
Where were you when Rushia was kill?

Did she get Mafumafu's cute femboy penis though? That's what matters for her, right?

>>43726871
Congratulations from Yon-Chan! Give us back the fandead btw.

>>43726926
And not having to beg people to come to your outfit stream.

>>43726871
When they beheaded her I wish they sold it as a fleshlight

>Begs for 30k viewers on twitch which is something only the top 5 channels ever achieve
>literally goes to sleep for 7 hours while leaving the stream on

>>43730145
He has a monster cock like that Astolfo cosplayer.
That's why Rushia was so thirsty for his cock.

S

>>43730652
Ironmouse could do it

>>43730132
Bakhmut. Can't believe Putin would show his support for Rushia by invading Ukraine as retaliation against Cover corp

>>43730652
She shouldn't have joined vshojo. She was already going to lose fans when she took so long to get a new model and kept paywalling her streams on random sites.
Changing it again with another new name on a site most jp don't go to fucked her. It screwed kson as well and she didn't even make a new name + model.

>>43726871
>it really was the same fucking day

>>43726926
She never said that, EOP

>>43730766
Too bad she isn’t ironmouse then

>>43726926
Yon-chan will save her...

>>43726926
>not even 7k
Anya easily surpassed this number, kek. Talking about fall from grace

>>43730652
>Begs for 30k viewers
Can I get a timestamp?

>>43726871
>Please give her your best wishes
She seem to be doing just fine

>>43726871
>Coco gets a month full of dragged out farewells with everyone crying about how much they'll miss her
>Rushia gets fired overnight "Lol, can't be helped"

>>43731469
Were you not here during the stream? Literally all of this board was talking about it, i don’t have a timestamp but you can ask literally anybody here cause it was two days ago

>>43731469
Hell it’s not even as bad at just begging for 30k viewers… she said she would only unveil her new outfit if she got 30k viewers… but then she accidentally leaked it and had a mental breakdown and went on JP omegle trying to find random people to watch her stream… it was sort of sad, at least the vshojo girls joined the stream and wrangled her back

She needs to start earning a LOT more money to pay for all the lawsuits she's involved in and will lose

>>43736650
she says 拡散 to spread
anons misheard her

>>43736919
30k in japanese is 3万 sanman
it doesnt sound remotely like what she said

>>43736511
>quitting vs getting fired

>>43730946
Chamma knew...

>>43737248
Oh no no no!

>>43726871
SO close to valentine's day too. How ironic

>>43737661
>666x666
Ok, satan. anyway, now to tribute that.

https://twitter.com/Robin0022662415/status/1628765562414448640

>>43726926
>7k viewers for an outfit reveal
Should've not debuting on the same day as peko anniversary, bitch

>>43726871
Hololive was just holding Rushia back, she is better than ever now.

i dont care about her, but she had some decent lewds. we need more ass

Test

>>43730927
Indies have a much harder time in the vtuber world regardless of talent or work ethic since there are so many of them competing for the same audience while having to do all of their own marketing. Cover knows exactly what they are doing when they make hololive talents sign a non-compete clause since after years of working for a company they would find it much easier to work for another company.

>>43738625
>Has a mental break down on stream because she can't hit 30K on Twitch and has to be talked down
>Better than ever

>>43730927
I don’t think she can do well without structure and a handler and given her previous history I don’t think other corps wanted her.

I do miss her. She was one of the OG juggernauts of Hololive and it's clear during her whole MafuMafu mess she wasn't thinking clearly and management was doing the bare minimum to help her. I do miss her but I won't deny that what she did wasn't stupid. I just hope with time people learn to forgive.

>>43737248
If only Rushia ate all the rice…

Wait, so Russia invaded Ukraine on 24th and Rushia graduated on 24th? What a pottery.

>>43738745
Us holochads do not forgive and do not forget. We are legion.

>>43738745
>management was doing the bare minimum to help her.
>Hey Rushia just shut up until I'm in the office, okay?
>Instructions unclear, run to dramanigger and break NDA in the process
Anon she literally just had to be quiet, even Matsuri managed to do it properly with the hand shit.

>>43737248
oh no no Zelenskek bros, not like this

>>43730132
In a community college accounting intro class trying to balance debits and credits while also trying to find combat footage from Ukraine

>>43736511
did anyone cry about rushia?

>>43739248
Everyone was pissed she jeopardized the upcoming HoloFes event. It was a different vibe.

>>43738745
>I do miss her but I won't deny that what she did wasn't stupid.
>won’t deny
>wasn’t
…so you are saying you think it wasn’t stupid then? I presume this double negative was an accident.

>>43739357
I think the biggest annoyance for me was that it led to Cover fucking up with the graphic designers that were updating the FES banners to remove Rushia and accidentally removed poor Luna instead.

>>43737248
Given her own history, makes sense that Chaama would try to be supportive of her coworkers when they are freaking out and facing backlash from an on-stream yab.

>>43739544
not even the strongest idol could save Rushia from herself

>>43739472
kek

>>43739248
Gen 3 were allowed an explanation stream, everyone else had to shut the fuck up. Even mori was all ready to shit up twitter and was shut down very quickly being all apologetic for overreacting not soon after.
It was a company wide desaster and cover sure as heck didn't let people spout shit freely when they don't even know the full circumstances.

>>43737248
What the fuck hachama

>>43737248
200 IQ move, make people talk about your "yab mistake" instead of drama. Unfortunately this time drama was too big.
Chamma also single-handedly solved problem of Rushia's structures on MC server

one year later and still the most SC'ed vtuber in the world
blue doritofags seething.
>b-b-but SCs don't matter
cope fucking harder

>>43740066
>Chamma also single-handedly solved problem of Rushia's structures on MC server
What'd she do?

>>43740113
Wrong, some Jap normalfag destroyed her record in like an hour and normies laughed at her.

There was embargo on this topic right after shit went down, there was only the most corporate response from Gen3.
After time passed othermembers were talking about her on their own, and most of them were kinda sad about what happened. Not at Coco leaving leavel tho

>>43740187
for >>43739248

>>43740128
Went into her house and claimed everything that was Rushia's as her own

>>43740187
pekr recognized rushia's references in holocure at least

>>43740161
How do you state such bullshit as if it is the truth so confidently?

>>43740113
akshually sc matter more if you don't have to give away the lions share to your company. Also twitch bits have more value since twitch asks for the taxation upfront when buying the bits instead of subtracting them from the amount you want to spend on the streamer, so they're worth more to the person on camera.

>>43739421
I knew something felt off but I also had to do some work and just fired the post off without checking, my bad

>>43738871
I've been reprimanded through email and in person and the one that sticks out to me was the in person lecture. From my understanding of Cover, unless anyone has any other proof otherwise, is that they simply sent her an email or message saying don't do certain things when they should've taken a more hands on/heavy handed approach. When people aren't thinking straight you can't just tell them not to do something you gotta break past their hysteria and hammer the message in.

>>43738745
>and management was doing the bare minimum to help her.
To this day I still wonder what fandeads were expecting Cover to do, were they really expecting them to immediately release an overly specific statement along the lines "No, Rushia is definitely not Mikeneko and she is definitely not getting fucked by MafuMafu on a regular basis, and we will take legal action against anyone who says otherwise"?

>>43730825
Fucking bullshit. I will anti Putin for going against my favorite Vtuber company.

>>43726871
>one year later still can't take Bakhmut
Good riddance.

>>43741118
Pretty sure they have a straight line on Discord if they needed something.

The thing about her hysteria though is that its pretty unfounded. Pretty sure they have drilled the girls to please do not act rashly and let the company to take all the hits they otherwise will get. By most account, Rushia's incident is far from the worst of stream incident, or even twitter going wild like that time with Marine and Miko.

Of course, you can argue that each person's trigger point are different and if you want to argue that Rushia's justified because it affects her livelihood (or whatever), then its difficult because from eyes of everyone else this is just a small scratch. Its not like her manager are her personal therapist. If you work, you know that your manager are not exactly your close friend. He does not know You, in the wholest of sense. The thing about Cover does not care about their personal life/relationships also goes both way.

>>43738625
>>43738760

>>43741153
strap her to the bed and disallow her from using Twitter for her own goodness? Although pretty sure that act in itself is already a big breach of privacy.

>>43741592
Tbh some Rushia's shizos are on Perfect Blue level.

>>43738791
Also Elden Ring release date. It fucking sucked too. Cursed day.

>>43739913
Hololive is soulless

>>43741153
>told to go on hiatus until resolved
>weekend
>national founder's day
>uses alt rm account
>discord
>gives dramanigger screencaps
>a bunch of other shit comes out
they shift blame because they can't admit how catastrophically bad her choices were at every point and ultimately failed their oshi

fandeds.. h.. hang in there

>>43730132
/v/.
People kept spamming threads there with her and so I came here to see what the fuck was going on.
And now you're stuck with shitposters like me forever.

>>43737248

>>43741153
How about sitting down with her in person? The girls travel all the time for business meetings, I would warrant this to be important enough to have a sit down meeting with Rushia to go over what she should and shouldn't do.

>>43746744

>>43736723
What site was it

>>43747271
Nigger, it was in the middle of the night, on a long weekend, on a national holiday, and Rushia didn't even wait until the next day to contact krkr. Unless her manager magically teleported to her house the moment the discord notification popped up there was no way of saving Rushia from her own menhera and stupidity.

>>43749239
You're wasting your time trying to convince them. It's a lot easier for the vast majority of them to blame someone/something else than admit that their oshi royally fucked up. Fans reflect the oshi after all; all she's done since last year is blame anyone and everything else than herself.
That said, there are some fandeads who are actually capable of understanding and admitting that her undoing was her own fault and that she did fuck up. Some have even said her getting terminated was understandable. They're extremely few in number though.

>>43726871
Today's my birthday too...

>>43726871
I weep for you, Rushia-sama, nobody made unicorn suffer like you did.

>>43738635
Here ya go

>>43738635

>>43726871
Couldn't have happened to a more deserving girl.

>>43738635
Rushibutt

>>43738635
Nazutan

>>43738635
This one is too spicy

>>43737248
Who do you think gave the order?

>>43751016
Obviously

>>43749239
You are ignoring the fact that Kore2 was going to do a stream on the event the next day.
He didn't have much info, so he was going to assume that they were actually dating until she contacted him with receipts to prove that they weren't. His stream hit 250k CCV at one point.
Cover didn't stop him, obviously

>>43751483
>You are ignoring the fact that Kore2 was going to do a stream on the event the next day.
So what, she had to make it worse for herself by leaking information to him? She just made it worse for herself and drew more attention to him by giving him juicy behind the scenes leaked details.

>>43751766
>juicy
The hyperbole is getting ridiculous. You know damn well what she sent him and it made perfect sense in the context of the situation.
Ensuring that her gachikoi didn't believe that she had betrayed them was one of the most important things for her. If you can't wrap your head around that fact, you not only can't understand her, but you also can't understand a crucial aspect of JP streaming culture

>>43751941
>it made perfect sense in the context of the situation.
Yeah, if you’re a retard mental patient like her. She made the story even bigger and even got herself fired. If the tabloids shit on you, you don’t acknowledge them directly and give them more information.
>Ensuring that her gachikoi didn't believe that she had betrayed them was one of the most important things for her.
Yes, it was a threat to her career and income as a gfe streamer but not as big a threat as what actually ended up happening. Even if she tried to disprove the rumors about actively being the guy’s girlfriend it would STILL be a betrayal of her character and fans by having close personal friendly relations with a guy. She should’ve just waited it out and explained it herself.

>>43751941
Also don't forget half of EN twtiter going "IT'S OK TO HAVE BOYFRIEND RUSHIA, WE ARE WITH YOU, FUCK THOSE PARASOCIAL LOSERS"

>>43752437
Hindsight is 20/20, and I find that the only people who forget it tend to suffer from a terminal case of being "the eternal midwit". There is absolutely no way she even assumed that the events would lead up to her termination and judging her actions from what we know now is dumb. If I may, you're someone who would never be able to analysis history to any meaningful degree
How would she even feasibly recover if Korekore went on stream and said "They're totally dating based on my knowledge?" Even if she had clarified anything to him after that point, the initial damage done would have been too great and would have tanked her career.
The first person to say something publicly commands all attention. It was a crisis situation and she acted impulsively, but assuming that she should have handled everything perfectly is just as naive as her own actions.

>>43751941
>it made perfect sense in the context of the situation
context of the situation is her being a mentally ill retard who can't think logically, so yeah it made sense for her to to something stupid

>>43752688
Retardation is moe.

>>43752688
Almost as dumb as making posts on 4chan about it over a year afterwards, presumably to make yourself feel smart despite the fact that you actually don't even know everything about the situation.
And your frail ego will force you to respond to me, so I'm thanking you for the (You) in advance.

>>43752953
>the fact that you actually don't even know everything about the situation
you believe this because I came to a different conclusion than you, right?
I would feel bad for people like you but you cling to her because you think that you actually know better than the rest. You are the one thinking to be smarter.

>>43726871
sad day for us all. Hope she gets the help she needs and ends up in a better place

>>43753115
>the people who watch and interact with a vtuber tend to know her better than the people who observe them from a distance or otherwise gain their information second/third-hand from the /vt/ catalog
The idea that this statement is somehow controversial to you is part of the reason why this board is in the absolute wretched state that it is.

>I said "Fire on Russia" NOT "Fire Rushia"
still makes me laugh

>>43752658
>There is absolutely no way she even assumed that the events would lead up to her termination
Yeah, who could have thought that sharing internal emails, screenshots of conversations with her manager and offering access to her discord account to prove the receipts were legit would be considered a breach of contract and get her fired.

Who could have foreseen this turn of events, indeed.

>>43753262
>Im kinda dumb
Not her, apparently

>people still don't know the true reason why she got removed
good

>>43753262
>sharing internal emails, screenshots of conversations with her manager and offering access to her discord account
Because the only part of that which is true is the
>screenshots of conversations with her manager
If your opinions of her actions are based off of false information, then your opinions are unironically not valid.

>>43726871
such a waste of a model, goddamn I want rushia back without the menhera behind the avatar

>>43726871

Can anyone tell me how she did prove that she was not dating mafumafu? Because they obviously were in a relationship. Just prove me wrong.

>>43753974
She DMed Korekore a bunch of photographs of her apartment that proved without a doubt that she lived alone. The only "proof" was a DM that could be intepreted in two ways:
>I am going back to my own house
>I am going back to our house
Disproving cohabitation means that the message can now only be interpreted in one way. In addition to that, Kore2 knew both of them for years and said that his own personal opinion from everything he had seen and knew suggested that the two weren't dating

>>43754062
this is just sad.

yagoo's kill first, don't ask questions later technique is unparalleled

>>43754304
Alright. So what, in your view, is the proof that they were dating?

>>43726871
And now she's dragged into another controversy...

>>43753748
The point is that she still shared company-internal comms with a 3rd party and that you'd need to be as retarded as Rushia to think that it wouldn't be considered a breach of contract.

>inb4 but other holomems have had conversations with their managers leaked
No, it's not the same retard, there is a difference between accidentally showing your desktop and personally contacting a 3rd party and willingly sending them company-internal stuff, not to mention that Rushia had already been warned about talking about Holo shit as Miguel with krkr (and yes, there are receipts of that on krkr's statement after the termination).

Just accept the fact that Rushia is a retarded menhera and that she has no one to blame for her firing except her own retarded menhera self, it has been a fucking year already.

>>43755033
I'm not even defending all of her actions. My point has always been that it's important to sympathize with her actions and her thoughts rather than just insulting her over it and gloating, especially a year down the line
>the point is
No, you're not avoiding this by pulling that shit. You accused her of doing 3 things. 2 of those things were false. Why would you do that? Why would you lie about what she actually did?
Were you unaware that they were lies, or did you make that post fully aware that you were lying about her? And if that was the case, why would you do that? Do you have something to gain from lying about her? Do you just enjoy spreading rumours and trying to ruin her reputation online for no reason?

>>43726871
Fuck…

>>43726871
you got everything you deserved and everything that happened to you is your own damn fault

>>43755186
It has been a year anon and she already came back under 2 identities anon, you don't need to keep defending her honor and arguing semantics and details with internet randos, it's time to let go.

>>43755511
I would be a piece of shit fan if I saw someone spreading lies about her, and despite being in a position to refute them, chose not to.
If you are the same guy samefagging, you're a piece of shit anti
If you aren't, then I'd ask you how would you feel if you saw someone blatantly lying about your oshi just to make more people hate her?

>>43755511
NTA, but nah. Call out all lying niggers on this board at every opportunity.

>>43726871
Hope she has many more breakdowns, and eventually one of them will be the last. Rot in hell.

>>43755619
>>43755586
>>43755186
>>43753748
>>43752658
>>43751483
>>43747271
>>43738745
Damn, I generally tend to avoid these kinds of threads and heard that the remaining fandeads were insane and deluded but jesus fucking christ...

>>43751483
>His stream hit 250k CCV at one point.
The sheer irony is that the reason that his stream got so many views is that he claimed to have EXCLUSIVE INSIDER INFO and showed the pictures Rushia sent him of her room, so if she had done nothing it would have gotten way less views.

>Cover didn't stop him, obviously
You do realize that Xover shutting down a "VIRTUAL URUHA RUSHIA IS MIKENEKO AND IS GOING OUT WITH MAFUMAFU? EXCLUSIVE INSIDER INFO HERE" stream only would have given it more legitimacy to his claims and make things worse, right?

>>43754397
can't reply because that would include discussion related to vtubers real life and I got warned. So let's be a bit more cheerful instead. ٩(ˊᗜˋ*)و

>>43756866
>and showed the pictures Rushia sent him of her room
No, he didn't? If he did, he would have ended up likely doxxing her address on stream, which would have opened up a massive legal mess.
>>43756943
Basically you have no proof

>>43756137
Nah, you post this shit all the time and hate that it isn't going your way.

>>43756137
You post these threads every day what do you mean?

>>43747271
She was told not to say anything. Fandeads are truly delusional. Also imagine admitting that your oshi is a full grown adult that needs a keeper.

>>43752658
>Hindsight is 20/20, and I find that the only people who forget it tend to suffer from a terminal case of being "the eternal midwit". There is absolutely no way she even assumed that the events would lead up to her termination and judging her actions from what we know now is dumb. If I may, you're someone who would never be able to analysis history to any meaningful degree
It isn’t hindsight about her situation, it is hindsight regarding how these situations usually play out in the vtuber and even in the broader spectrum of scandals. She was being stupid and focusing so much on desperate damage control that she didn’t think about the wider damage she was going to cause. A dramatuber does not have your best interests at heart in the same way a tabloid doesn’t, they just want to get coverage and sell the story drama for their own benefit. It is because of an awareness of history in similar contexts that it is easy to know she was being retarded. I don’t expect her to handle things perfectly at all, if she wasn’t stupid she wouldn’t have gotten herself in such a situation in the first place.
>How would she even feasibly recover if Korekore went on stream and said "They're totally dating based on my knowledge?" Even if she had clarified anything to him after that point, the initial damage done would have been too great and would have tanked her career.
Her career was going to tank anyway no matter what was said. He still spread the rumors and instilled the idea further in peoples minds even though he made sure to play it safe to avoid anything that would put him at risk for defamation.

>>43753222
If you are too emotionally invested in issue then your bias can shift your views and opinions away from objectivity. Even lawyers shouldn’t act as their own lawyers.

ru…

>>43756943
Nice job avoiding the trap set for you anon!

>>43759666
>A dramatuber does not have your best interests at heart in the same way a tabloid doesn’t, they just want to get coverage and sell the story drama for their own benefit
I hate the fat fuck, but you're conveniently ignoring the fact that he has actually helped her out numerous times in the past with various issues that she's had over the years. You're at least aware of those, aren't you?
Again, she made some mistakes. But sitting in your chair and calmly analysing the entire situation is missing the forest for the trees in terms of actually understanding what was going through her mind and how she saw her situation.

>>43755186
>2 of those things were false.
Proof?

>>43759980
Burden of proof is on the person making the inital claim. So he'd have to prove that she handed her Discord to him or that she shared emails

>>43726871
Just chiming in to say best wishes to you Fandead and your oshi. Your antis are the third worldest catalog spamming retards I've ever seen.

>>43760224
One advantage to them spamming the catalog for months is that everyone is tired of "discussing" this topic besides the actual antis.
Look at how quiet this thread is despite it being made on the anniversary of her termination

>>43759808
Exactly. When you intentionally post flat out lies about someone a year later you're obviously emotionally compromised and can't be trusted.

>>43759903
>But sitting in your chair and calmly analysing the entire situation is missing the forest for the trees in terms of actually understanding what was going through her mind and how she saw her situation.
I’m not at all missing it. She is a retard with brain problems and eas extremely short sighted. I know full well she was trying to damage control how damaging what she had shown was to her gfe pandering and idol vtuber career, even without the boyfriend rumor aspects. However even at the time, before she got fired for it, people were saying she was stupid for going to kore2 herself and giving him information. Per the termination this kind of repeated interaction was part of why she was terminated, not just this being a one time incident. It isn’t like she hadn’t been told not to do it before.
>He helped her before!
He helped himself. Don’t kill your golden goose, if you have a drama creating loudmouth willing to give you information and material for your work, at least try to stay on her good side even as you are feeding off her suffering.

>>43760023
So you don’t have anything other than your word then? Just you, a fan, saying that what many others are saying is not the truth doesn’t carry much weight.

>>43760632
The fact that you see human interactions as fundamentally transactional in nature speaks a lot to your twisted world view
>gfe pandering
It's not pandering, and it's certainly not "e" either.
Out of curiosity though, what exactly do you gain out of writing these paragraps about her for hours. And can I clarify if you were the anon earlier who was spreading multiple lies about her?

is it bad that I genuinely don't feel bad now that she's gone?

>>43726926
>7k viewers
Hundreds of thousands of vtubers would kill for that.

>>43760747
If your actual logic is
>lots of people say it, therefore it must be true
then you are a fool. People believe the first thing they hear and run away with it.
>One way in which one would attempt to shift the burden of proof is by committing a logical fallacy known as the argument from ignorance. It occurs when either a proposition is assumed to be true because it has not yet been proven false
Explain to me how I prove the absence of an event occuring. How do I prove that she didn't do something when there is no evidence that she did? That is literal insanity.
I'm going to call you a child molester right now. Prove that you aren't. Do you see how outrageous that argument would be?

>>43760485
>lies
Rushia was terminated because she had for some time been distributing false information to third parties and leaking information.
This is a fact. Or are you saying that her termination was wrongful? If do, do you have any proof.

>>43760799
Not bad at all.

>>43760965
That's not why she was terminated
The reason for termination was clarified as having been sending her communication with her manager to a third party. That breached NDA.
Everything else in that statement was just additional information and corpo-speak to make it easier for the intended audience to digest her termination

>>43760799
Flare and Noel genuinely didn't seem to give a single fuck about her graduation, so she must have been a real bitch to the other holos.

>>43760789
>It's not pandering, and it's certainly not "e" either.
Holy shit, get a load of this faggot.

>>43761090
Noel talked later that she was depressed over it and Flare talked about having a lot of good memories with Rushia.
Do your stream reps.

>>43761178
Noel is literally always depressed about something, and Flare was just being a professional.

>>43761297
Cope

>>43761297
Stop trying to use my oshi in your retarded threads faggot

>>43761475
Is your oshi Flare or Noel?

>>43741118
>From my understanding of Cover, unless anyone has any other proof otherwise

translation: I made it up

>they should've taken a more hands on/heavy handed approach

The only thing they could have done differently was strap Michael Cat to a fucking chair and throw her in solitary confinement as soon as that GTA stream was over.

The fuck more were they supposed to do? They already privated the stream directly after and released a statement in support of her and requesting people to calm the fuck down. Maybe they could have done more, but they were no match against a mental patient hell bent on self-destruction

>>43761090
Why you care if they don't give a fuck?

>>43761026
>That's not why she was terminated
>The reason for termination was clarified as having been sending her communication with her manager to a third party. That breached NDA.
>Everything else in that statement was just additional information and corpo-speak to make it easier for the intended audience to digest her termination
Wrong. Pic related is the termination.
>With respect to the above, we were able to confirm that she engaged in acts that: violated her contract by leaking information that she acquired from the company as well as communication over SNS, both of which she has a responsibility to protect; and caused the company to suffer reputational damage, such as by publicizing falsehoods to various related parties. As a result, we, as a company, have determined that it has become difficult to continue managing and supporting her and have elected to make this decision.
Notice the clauses of the supporting reasons, with a separating semi-colon? You are completely skipping the 2nd one.
>violated her contract by leaking information that she acquired from the company as well as communication over SNS, both of which she has a responsibility to protect
>; and
>Caused the company to suffer reputational damage, such as by publicizing falsehoods to various related parties.
Notice the statement regarding publicizing falsehoods to third parties as a reason separate from the leaking? Now you're trying to do it too.

>>43761572
>and released a statement in support of her
That statement was very half and half.
On the one hand, they told people to stop harassing her, which is good
On the other hand, their response (we don't care if she is or isn't fucking the alien) wasn't actually a defence of her at all. A lot of people used that to accuse her of having fucked the alien, so I really wouldn't say that their statement defended her all that much, to be quiet honest. Or can you spell out exactly why you believe that the statement was a good defence?
The rest of your post reads of butthurt so it's not even worth entertaining

>>43761635
>Geez I wonder why is relevant that two of her genmates didn't care about Rushia getting kicked out from the company

>>43761912
They're just jealous and glad because they couldn't compete with her.

>>43761090
noel did feel bad, and flare was at a loss for words. it hurt them. rushia with noel's ASMR stuff was great.

>>43761982
>and flare was at a loss for words
>"I couldn't believe she was such a fucking bitch"

>>43731453
i expect even some of the tempiss new outfits to beat that

>>43762046
Flare is a bitch.

>>43761693
>information that she acquired from the company as well as communication over SNS, both of which she has a responsibility to protect
Both of these topics would have been covered by the exact same screenshots that we saw. There is nothing to suggest that it was multiple pieces of information.
If that communication had contained the manager's email address, that would have constituted both info and communications.
>Caused the company to suffer reputational damage, such as by publicizing falsehoods to various related parties.
Falsehoods, in terms of corporate PR, can just as easily mean
>things that are actually true, but which cannot be proven with the evidence currently at hand.
Complaining about her treatment at work, for instance, without providing hard evidence of such, can be treated as a "falsehood", especially if it was done verbally. You're attributing far too much "honesty" to the company in this case considering that this statement is as much a PR statement as a factual one.
You should read Mikeneko's own statement published in June which goes into far more specifics than Cover's open and vague statement. You'll note that Cover looked over her statement in advance and let her publish it
This must be the only board that believes that a corporation would never be economical with the truth.

>>43762131
>Believing an actual menhera

>>43762245
I tend to not believe her antis, who are just as menhera.

>>43762131
>You should read Mikeneko's own statement published in June which goes into far more specifics than Cover's open and vague statement. You'll note that Cover looked over her statement in advance and let her publish it
Let her publish it and immediately responded with how they stood by their original statement despite her disagreeing with points.

>>43762131
>There is nothing to suggest that it was multiple pieces of information.
Untrue. The termination notice literally indicates them as more than that, "BOTH".
>If that communication
IF? You're just assuming things and making excuses now. Conjecture.
>Falsehoods, in terms of corporate PR, can just as easily mean
No, falsehood means something untrue. Like what you are accusing that statement of being. If it wasn't untrue then they could have just stated she damaged the reputation.
You're saying they terminated her under false pretenses. As the accuser, you'd need to be the one to provide the proof of that.

>>43762485
Yes? She said in her own statement that Cover was refusing to put out a joint statement.
Nobody was surprised that Cover wouldn't do it. If anything, some people were a bit taken aback by how speedily Cover put out that statement
Keep in mind that, had they actually admitted that their statement was false in any way, shape or form, that they'd be walking into a massive legal nightmare. They'd be admitting publicly to having published false information about their former employee.
The smartest thing to do is to allow her to publish a statement and to agree to disagree, even if in all likelyhood, Mike's statement veers far closer to the truth of matters.
Again, this is all corporate PR matters. It's not hard to understand if you have any basic understanding of the business world.
I will always laugh that it took Cover 24 hours to put out that statement, but it took them four days to put out a statement to ask people to stop harassing Rushia and the other Hololive talents. It really shows where the business has its priorities

>>43738745
Rushia was never thinking clearly, Mafu aside she had a history of fucking up

>>43739472
nothing of value was lost nanora

>>43762666
>You're saying they terminated her under false pretenses
No, you're twisting my words. I have no problem admitting she broke her NDA and that led to her termination. I'm saying that their statement was being rather economical with the truth in terms of the other details.
And there's nothing wrong with that. As a company, it's typical for them to try this. But as a person possessing a brain, I understand where I'm supposed to read between the lines

Fox friend said it was unfortunate, justified and unavoidable, that's all I need to know, I trust the foobs.
I miss rushia tho, and it's sad she has to waste away in american black company with a shittier contract than her colleagues

>>43762842
>You're saying they terminated her under false pretenses
>No, you're twisting my words. I have no problem admitting she broke her NDA and that led to her termination
Except that literally is not the sole reason given for her termination. It literally is not.
>I understand where I'm supposed to read between the lines
Translation: You made it up.
Where is the "supposed to read between the lines" regarding Mike's statement and actions?

>An old conclusion I remember seeing when Rushia's whole ordeal had ended (1/2)

Before I begin, let me preface it with an important context: all the decisions that Mikeneko makes during the whole drama is made under a very stressful situation with a mentally fraught mind worsen by depression. We will never know if Mikeneko will choose to do otherwise if any of these factors changes, but this is the decision she had made, and we should keep her mental condition in mind when judging her actions.

For Mikeneko, the whole drama seems rather straightforward: her stream had leaked a discord message that implies she is in relationship with mafumafu, so she must clear her name ASAP lest she create a huge fan exodus due to this leak. In Mikeneko's mind, Mikeneko IS Rushia, so Rushia's fanbase IS Mikeneko's fanbase, and if she cleared her name for that one account, the other account will also follow. That is not an unreasonable assumption without precedence: Matsuri's similar drama on her alternative public account had spilled into her main Hololive account, and many fans of Coco had migrated to kson's account, Coco's alternative public account. All of Mikeneko's interaction with Korekore hinges on this fact, which will be an important assumption later on when we discussed on Rushia's eventual termination.

For Cover however, this drama is not so straightforward. From the company's perspective, this drama is actually TWO drama happened together at the same time:

1. Their talent had leaked a message that implies she is in relationship with another famous talent.
2. Their talent had leaked a message that pointed to their (currently active) alternative public personality/social media account.

Up until now, Cover had adopted an "Don't ask, don't tell" policy on their talents' alternative public personality, with high possibility of being adopted into a NDA with the talents. The talents are allowed to keep using that public personality even for commercial works, as long as they do not mention Cover and it's IP on said commercial works, and vice versa. This is very generous on Cover side in the entertainment industry, because I can't imagine any of the big players on this industry will allow any of their talents to even keep using an alternative account while they are working under their label. But that also means in Cover's perspective, Mikeneko IS NOT Rushia. To Cover, those are two separate individuals, and the action of one (ideally) should not be representative of others.

When the leak happens, Cover now found itself in a troublesome spot of how to handle these two issues simultaneously. The relationship issue is nothing new in this industry, and the PR strategies to handle this kind of issues are well documented. The other issue however, is way more difficult to handle. Even in the Western side of things, the issue of whether fan should publicly acknowledge the existence of these alternative public personalities is still an ongoing discussion/debate. Should Cover even acknowledge the existence of this practice now, or keep silence, risking the fanbase (and potentially Cover's sponsors) to asking even more difficult questions on these accounts, and forced Cover's hand in an even more unfavorable environment?

Cover first public announcement pointed their current policy on those two issues. Their policy on first issue is 'it's the talent's own personal life, so we will not take any action toward that other than preventing further harassment towards them', which is an implicit policy that had been expressed by other members previously, but now officially acknowledged by Cover itself.

>>43763036
You're iillterate, so let me explain
If I post a screenshot of my communcation with my manager, and that screenshot contains the manager's email address, I have both leaked information and correspondence. Both in the one action
The idea that she had been leaking other information was contradicted in her own statement, which is the only proof I need. Her statement is more accurate than Cover's.
Cover's statement was hastily drawn together in a few days. Her's was the work of several months of effort.
You're choosing to ignore her entire statement because it doesn't fit your narrative. And if I may, aren't you the Rushiaschizo?

>>43763179 (me)
>(2/2)
Their policy on the second issue is... silence. So Cover choose to maintain the current statue quo, and hoped that no one poked the beehive hard enough to force the issue even further. Remember that at this time Mikeneko had technically breached the NDA (since her first stream with Korekore regarding the drama had already been broadcasted a few days ago before the announcement), and Cover can choose to terminate her at this point, but the fact the Cover chose to ignore the stream and the NDA breach under the veil of "active investigation" suggested that Cover at least wanted to keep her, just like what happened with Aloe, who also technically breached the NDA by accidentally leaking the pre-debut test stream to public, but is slapped with 2 weeks suspension instead.

Unfortunately, it seems like the people who forced their hand is not the fans or sponsors, but Rushia herself. From Korekore's latest stream, it seems like Mikeneko didn't just try to clear her name on her relationship with mafumafu; seems like it had devolved into Mikeneko's ranting about everything that she is not happy with Cover and it's staffs. That is a very dangerous path; if Mikeneko IS Rushia, then any accusation to Cover make by Mikeneko is also naturally Rushia's accusation to Cover, and this I think Cover will not stand, even if the accusation is valid one. And it is damning that all these accusation is made under Mikeneko. If the accusation is made under Rushia, Cover can at least dodge the issue of the alternative public personality, but with the accusation make under Mikeneko? Now Cover will have to answer to how a supposedly outsider of your company knows so much of your company's working that they can make so many accusation against your company, unless Mikeneko is actually employee of your company? This fact, plus all the unfortunate implications of acknowledging said facts, is what I believe what prompted the contract termination of Rushia; better to cut tie right here, right now, lest the issue fester into a bigger public discussion/debate of alternative public personality.

Mikeneko, in her effort to defend both her accounts' name using Mikeneko's account, had unfortunately make a mistake of thinking Rushia IS Mikeneko, and the actions she done under Mikeneko had caused significant harm to Rushia and her company that it ultimately ends with termination

Love this menhera like you wouldn't believe. Can't live without her.

>>43763238
Nice namecalling.
>contradicted in her own statement, which is the only proof I need.
Her saying something isn't proof, you yourself said someone's word isn't proof.
>Her statement is more accurate than Cover's.
Where's the proof? That she said so? That isn't proof at all, you must have something more than that.
>Cover's statement was hastily drawn together in a few days. Her's was the work of several months of effort.
Literally doesn't hold any inherent value. The fact she waited and took a long time to do it could just as easily be construed as her trying to carefully construct a defense and having difficulty because of the validity of what she was facing. Not saying that is the case mind you, but I hope you can at least see what I mean. If you ask someone something and they take a while to answer it usually isn't seen as more honest, so you were just hurting your case there.
>You're choosing to ignore her entire statement because it doesn't fit your narrative.
You're projecting. I consider what both sides have said in their statements as well as other facts and information regarding the situation. You are just showing delusional, blind loyalty and a complete willingness to make every excuse you can.
>And if I may, aren't you the Rushiaschizo?
See what I mean? You're even inventing stories and narratives for other people now too, mental crutches to protect paradigm. I'm not your bogeyman.

People writing literal books here noones gonna read all this shit post cute necromancer instead

>>43736511
Coco was a made man and Rushia wasn't.

>>43764308
Your facade of impartiality is already fading away, unfortunately.
You said you considered both statements, but it seems like you've discounted Mikeneko's statement entirely out of hand. I've seen everything that's come out, and with my own understanding of event's, it's clear that Mikeneko's statement offers a far more logical and compelling explanation of events than Cover's vagueries.
You're free to do whatever you want, but it would be deeply misleading to other people in this thread for you to even pretend that you actually are impartial, but luckily, most people who would read this argument would have already seen that.

>>43762981
Fubuki is a lying corporate bitch, she was just throwing Rushia under the bus to protect Covercorp overlords. Fuck her.

>>43764625
This poster doesn't represent the opinion of Fandead.
Notice how he only showed up when a sudden wave of antis showed up?

>Fliptrannies STILL seething
Let it go bros

>>43762052
Oga overlapped Kson's coomer bikini outfit reveal and beat her in both CCV and superchats.
It's 100% going to happen. The brand is just too strong.

>>43764591
>The idea that she had been leaking other information was contradicted in her own statement, which is the only proof I need. Her statement is more accurate than Cover's.
Hilarious to hear you talk about impartiality, you're completely taken in already and have admitted it. She could've said anything and you would have believed it. She provided no proof regarding her claims about the invalidity of the false statements part of her termination, she just said "I didn't do it and asked them to say I didn't and they said no".

Whichever shitskinned discord has been flooding the catalog about year old drama for the last 2 days needs to implement a rule for all members to kys

>>43759666
>A dramatuber does not have your best interests at heart in the same way a tabloid doesn’t, they just want to get coverage and sell the story drama for their own benefit.
Say it ain't so!

>>43765139
>last 2 days
They've been spamming the catalog about Rushia for a year now anon. A lot of them hide in /#/

>>43765120
She has the same amount of proof that Cover has.

>>43764804
Fubuki cleverly and selfishly set herself up as a paragon of virtue with claims she's a canary in the coalmine and has undue power in the company and fan circles due to that. This is the same Fubuki that had an entire "generation" introduced just so she could get some friends hired out of nepotism. She always supports the company first. If that involved supporting a coworker she'll do it but once they're gone? A change of tune!
>Don't let the door hit you on the way out, bitch!

>>43765470
Falseflagger begone

>>43765585
She did it with Coco and she did it with Rushia.

>>43765703
I'm in communcation with the vast majority of /here/ Fandead and I've never heard one ever talk bad of Fubuki
You're doing this so that you can pull the classic
>see, Fandead anti Cover and Hololive
card. Stop it.

>>43765703
Aloe too?

>>43765139
It is more likely that the recent incident involving her behavior during the new model outfit stream has caused a resurgence of discussion of her.

>>43762820
I will not stand for this slander

>>43766187
Who gives a shit why it's happening, jannies need to get off their 600 pound asses and actually do something about Muhammad al Splitdick posting the same thread 50 times an hour because they're ass is still bleeding over a mentally ill Japanese woman

>>43726871
LETTING THE DAYS GO BY

>>43730132
>I was in my bed sleeping when phone ring
>friend say "Rushia is kill"
>"no"

>>43762757
>even if in all likelyhood, Mike's statement veers far closer to the truth of matters.
Delusional.

>>43766699
If anything, Mike’s statement is probably generous to Cover.

>>43764625
>Corporate bitch
>Fubuki goes out of her way to welcome back despite the damage it caused her for well over a year and the massive monetary losses.
Neck yourself, swine.

>>43765241
Cover has plenty of it that you'll never see or Rushia could have easily pushed the legal end of things against them. It's fucking hard to get fired in Japan and yet she still managed it.

The Naofumi of the VTuber world. I hope she wins in the end.

>>43766795
Wow, it's almost like she was supporting a coworker for the corporation against outsiders.
Like some kind of corporate bitch or something.

>>43765911
Aloe quit of her own accord you stupid fuck.

>>43766878
>Cover is hiding information that makes Cover look good
Ogey

>>43766794
>>43766914
Fandeads should grab some rope.

>>43766794
Proof?

>>43766922
Yes, just like Rushia chose to reach out to KoreKore of her own accord right, you lying filipinotranny.
Fuck off.

>>43766946
>Expects Cover to release sensitive information.
They've got it if the court needs it, but so far the menhera, lawsuit queen has done nothing about her termination, so good luck convincing anyone she didn't deserve it.
Also you need to be 18 to use this website.

>>43767081
I'm sure someone broke into her home and forced her to send him messages.
Mind broken retard.

>>43767083
Rushia could sue cover and destroy them if she wanted, but she cares too much about her coworkers and friends to do that even if they're backstabbers who wouldn't do the same for her.

>>43767151
If she had any ground to stand on they wouldn't have risked firing her to begin with. Keep dreaming, fancuck.

We can trust Rushia over that black company because Tamaki made an exception to her 4 year rule in order to collab with her.

>>43767151
>Rushia could sue cover and destroy them if she wanted

No she couldn't. Because that's exactly what she wanted to do when they fired her ass. Rushia was in burn it all down mode after she got fired. It was only after she explored her legal options that she decided to try to be amiable about it.

>>43767648
She was too depressed to do anything when that happened

I miss my cunnymancer wife sometimes. Such a great design wasted on such a schizo actress.

>>43767151
Holy shit the cope is real.

>>43767151
Ah, yes. Burn-it-all-down-if-something-happens-to-me Rushia cares too much.

>>43769150
Rushia never said that you obsessed anti, did you even read her statement? She loves cover and her coworkers despite them working to destroy her.
Quit samefagging to attack her, it is obvious to everyone what you're trying to do.

>>43738931
WTF anon, you are literally me.
I sat in a Wendy's trying to process it the whole day.

>>43749672
As a fandead my only concern is for rushia's well being. That she was at fault or not is irrelevant. I simply wish her the best and provide my unconditional love.

>>43763179
>>43763270
Great posts

Still makes me kek after all this time

Will there ever be another green holo after this? Ru-chan basically curses this position like Voldemort did.

>>43741571
>let the company to take all the hits
i remember when twappi tried to let the company take the hit but the company outright denied her
also the mel rape case

>>43771780
looks like fandeads are menheras too
the fans truly take after the streamer

>>43772451
Sapling still eat well tho

>>43761090
if you're talking about the joint statement gen 3 made after the fact, you should know that traditionally, they can't all be a crying mess, some of them have to be strong for the others, during coco's graduation, that was luna and kanata

>>43762757
NTA but if they made false statement then they already in a legal trouble and Mike can sue them easily but she didn't and please don't give me the cope "she just let it go for x reason" or something like that, and if you ask "why Cover don't sue her then if she is wrong",they already took action by firing her, she is the one at loss here while Cover is winning, so they don't need to bring it further than make a counter statement otherwise it would be seen as petty move "big corpo bullying ex employee" that would only damage their reputation which is very important for them and to use your own word, you would know if you have even basic knowledge in business

>>43775669
The more telling one is the fact that Watame, the person who will cry over someone else's spilt milk, was stone faced when Bakatare did their stream afterwards. If she couldn't get Watame to give a shit I can't help but believe she did some other shit we just didn't see.

>>43726926
>7k viewers for an outfit reveal
Holy fuck...its THAT bad? Jesus.
I almost feel bad for her, but she deserved it for the years of lies and manipulation.

>>43762757
>admitted that their statement was false in any way, shape or form, that they'd be walking into a massive legal nightmare.
Schizochama, whether they were to admit to it or not, IF it were a false statement, they would still be walking into a "massive legal nightmare." If the official statement were full of lies, suing them in the Japanese legal system would be a slam-dunk case. Since Miguel "Yab Queen" Del Gado seems so eager to take people to court, I'm sure news of her victory in this matter will be coming any day now, right? The fact that people buy into NotRushia getting involved in a bunch of litigation, but haven't stopped to consider the possibility that the company had their legal team take a look at the statement before it went public is hilarious. If you list out the actual reasons you are firing someone in a public statement and lie about it, you are leaving your ass hanging out in terms of legal liability, so of course you are going to have your lawyers vet it before you release it. That shouldn't be too "hard to understand if you have any basic understanding of the business world," after all.

She was really terminated on that day? Has it been that long? Weird how that coincides with Russia's invasion of Ukraine and Elden Rings release. Weird how these 3 things happened on the same day.

>>43772119
ERASED

>>43744913
Aussiebro is that you?

>>43772119
Buy 5 lose 1, the corpo vtuber experience!

>>43771780
>my only concern is for rushia's well being. That she was at fault or not is irrelevant.
If you were actually concerned for her well being, you would want her to get better and deal with some of her mental health issues. Part of doing so may involve her having to come to terms with and accept the possibility that her own actions contributed to the circumstances that resulted in this outcome. In that sense, whether she bears any fault in the manner is very relevant. Support is great and all but supporting people actively engaged in their own self-destruction isn't good for anybody.

>>43772119
This concert was such fucking dogshit, I felt legitimately insulted that I paid for it.

is this mental illness

>>43772119
Wait a second, that blurry shape...
Could it be?

>>43726871
I COULD HAVE SAVED HER

>>43762757
so much delusion and irony in this post, i hope you're just pretending to be a retarded larper but it's hard to tell nowadays especially when you're a mikefag

>>43790201
No it wouldn't
Because she acknowledged she broke her contract, she can't see to get back in
And if it got out that she was suing Cover, she'd deal with a huge amount of Holo fans anti-ing her. It would destroy her reputation

>>43787522
Watame also said the Tambourine Club would never be disbanded
Be honest. You're just using DepressedNousagi talking points

>>43792268
yes

>>43794192
>And if it got out that she was suing Cover, she'd deal with a huge amount of Holo fans anti-ing her. It would destroy her reputation
so you're saying she doesn't sue Cover because she afraid of holofag ? if they become anti she can just sue them, like how she sue her anti, also what reputation ? reputation of someone who got fired from breaking her contract ? there is nothing to lose anymore she should sue Cover any day now or you want to tell another cope that she doesn't "destroy" Cover out of her kindness because of her friends blablabla, lol

>>43794779
You're just making shit up.

>>43795123
>making shit up
how so, i'm not saying or claiming anything here, not the one who said Cover statement are false and i literally saw someone post "Rushia could sue Cover and destroy them if she wanted" but she didn't do that because (insert cope here), delusional retard

>>43750284
Happy late birthday anon

>>43726871
honorary seanigress

>>43795643
That was a falseflag, you retard

God bless rushia!

>>43767151
>cares too much about her coworkers and friends
lol
lmao
kusa

>>43726871
What Mafu dick does to a mf

Thanks to the fandead filling the thread with rushia pics.

I will never forgive faggots /here/ for shitting up Rushia.

>>43800288
You should also blame containment breakers like BannedVTMemes for only ever talking about her in a negative light
His page was locked recently for shit posts. Would be a shame if it happened again

Mikel gatto fanatics be writing pages of books, but in the end it doesnt even matter

She used official discord to regularly talk with alien playboy who only thinks of her as side chick#9282733 even though her content is being GFE to soul drained overworked japs

threatening other co workers by giving confidential information to infamous dramatuber

But i gotta give some credit to her though. she set an example that no matter how successful you are to the company, you can always be terminated. a good reminder to never fuck with the contract, your employer give you a platform , a big audience , support , keypoints to a successful carreer. she was their top earner, both SC and Merch. She set an example, and you just know that some girls were rattled and was given a reality check probably losing some sleep. By that example, a reminder to do their job properly.

He says, writing a book full of inaccuracies with the worst formatting I've ever seen

Its ok mikel gatto fan, its really ok to take a break , you dont have to write pages of books whenever a rushia thread pop ups, doing so only prolongs the thread, you can ignore it and let it die peacefully instead of defending it prolonging the thread for hours and the tourists eating , gobblinf the supposedly "false claims"

Have a nice day/noon/night wherever you come from Mikel gatto

Happy termination day, fandead bros

>>43801116
Imagine seething this hard about people calling out bullshit

>>43730132
Having fun with all the stupid things she did before the termination

Seeing all of the comments trying to call out the Fandead made by people who aren't even able to explain why they're actually wrong is hilarious
It's pretty obvious that you people are just anti-ing her either for shits and giggles or because you're butthurt. You lack the actual intellect required to understand anything about her or her circumstances. You are the NPCs of this board

Im not the one writing pages of books though, can't be seething. I understand your grief though, you probably have spent 50 grand something something to her.

>>43752658
Hindsight is 20/20, but anyone who doesn't look at how others deal with situations drops well below midwit. Both inside and outside of vtuber drama it's really easy to see that whenever this kind of shit happens, just don't talk about it. Go take a break for a few weeks and everyone forgets. Don't give people a reason to talk or speculate more, even if you're "right" correcting the record.

>>43802611
She knew her core fanbase would suffer the longer the issue went unaddressed, though

Can we go back to posting rushia pics, there's nothing to be gained by arguing with rushia haters.

>>43802860
She's gone through this exact issue in the past, just in a smaller scale, all she did then was post on her RM to her "core fans" saying it's not true, and never brought it up again. Are you really trying to tell me that fandeads who to this day still fight to the death to defend her would really drop her if she doesn't make any statement about it other than "it's not true"?