/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>4374806
funnier then korone and ame?
go home chingchong

She's a backstabber

>>4374847
Maybe to Korone, definitely funnier than Ame.

No

>>4374806
Not politics, she's just a bitch.

>>4374806
She was different. I liked her a lot, but she wasn't funnier than anyone.

Heh yeah, I especially found it funny how ugly she was when she did the face reveal.

>>4374806
Her killing her own career and those of her whole division over dumb One China semantics was pretty damn funny OP.

>>4374806
Yeah, funny looking

A rat thread died for this

https://files.catbox.moe/8qkk15.mp3

>>4374806
She really had a chance to escape chinkoid commie hellhole with work visa but then decided to stay a loyal rat slave

>>4374903
chinese cuisine

>>4374806
Nah, I already moved on and watching a Taiwanese cunny vtuber which is more interesting than belib

what did she say on stream that taiwan belongs to china or something

>>4374806
another discord raid? fuck off

>>4374806
>Reddit tier humor
>Molded by Twitch

Funny?

>>4375085
>reddit spacing
>complaining about reddit humor
Anonchama...

>>4375027
She literally organized and promoted the chinkstorm that aimed at graduating Coco and Haachama over quoting Youtube viewer stats.
Only Yogurt and I believe Spade Echo out of all HoloCN weren't complicit in that nonsense.

Spoonfeed me clips of her being funny

>>4375140
No credible evidence has ever been put forward to support your claims. It's a perpetual motion machine of believing something because you read someone else say it, perpetuating a myth.

The best part about HoloCN parts is that the EOPs have no idea who the fuck you're talking about because it all predates the Miko clip going viral. Even the Aloeposters have no ground to stand on.

>>4375152
Here:

>>4375140
What's the point of pushing this fake narrative? She's already dead.
>>4375152
https://youtu.be/K3wnP65jQoA
The best are all here, minus the marbles one.

>>4375171
>have no idea who the fuck you're talking about
chinkoid commie scum

>>4375171
>>4375236
don't you guys have some sort of chinese sites you can use?

no i love my funny wife

>>4375164
Whatever, zhang. You're free to think Cover shuttered the CN branch for no reason.
They roommate posted in support of the harassment and even doubled down when CN management lead them to believe they could keep the characters and rigs.
On what planet did they think Cover would let them spin off as indies? Lmao.

>>4375325
The reason they shuttered the branch is that the weight of Chinese fans' backlash to the Taiwan yab clearly outweighed the financial gain of the CN branch. It has nothing to do with your narrative.
>>4375321
I love Nene, too. Cute!

>>4374806
not even close

>>4374806
At least funnier than the entire HololiveEN

>>4374806
>Politics aside
Not possible where she’s considered. Only thing I regret about it all is that Yogurt had to go down with that ship.

>>4374964
what happens if i plug her in?

>>4375423
It would be very painful...

>>4375363
But the CN branch financials aren't a factor the the Taiwan madness? Even an underperforming group brings in some revenue.
Only way it'd be at all relevant is if there was some kind of link between the two...

>>4374806
もう一回言って

>>4375483
To spell it out: the branch was underperforming. If it had brought revenue on par with, say, EN, Cover may have been more willing to weather the controversy. However, there wasn't sufficient financial incentive to try to appease upset Chinese fans and deal with all the complicated political navigation. So they pulled the plug. It had nothing to do with some silly story of Artia and co. masterminding an insidious attack on fellow chuubas.

she's a bitch
i bet she's the one who talked shit about cover to veibae

>>4375456
she's a big girl

>>4374806
NO

She has that twitch e-girl humor that I've gotten tired of already.

>>4374964
Who? I need a Taiwanese Tia replacement.

>>4374806
>Le funni pepega meme

Hardly

>>4374806
Your taste are dirt

>>4375579
Oh, you are wrong here.

ANDY IS TRANSLATOR IN ARTIA DISCORD. He provoked Chinks angry and make nationalist Chink attack Hololive.

Because of Artia discord, Taiwan incident became complicated political issue. Artiafag can not denied this fact.

Artia and Whitell are wolf warrior. They even admit it by themself.

>>4375579
Everything are Artia discord ' s fault Anon.
If they just eliminate antis who attack Hololive members and end Taiwan drama in early state Artia may survive this day.

Because of stupidly of Artia community as whole think they can protect spammer in their discord and do no shit Artia is dead

>>4374806
Motherfucker be looking like this

>>4375579
What antis Hololive in Artia discord had done?

> provoked Chink nationalist to attack Hololove.
> attack others translator groups if they try to defend Hololive.
> Organized spamming discord to attack all of Hololive members
> spread fake narrative like " Coco protect Haachama " for justifed their actions.
> They even use " Actor among us" plan at Reddit and 4chan but fail.
> They are crazy phycopath who want to rape and murder Coco,Kanata and Suisei if they found Holohouse.
> Some of them are Chinks who studying in Japan
> Artia' s mods are fuxking lair. They know about "Whitell" around November but they denied about it.

Everything are Artia's discord fault.
They organize nationalist Chink and make money from drama.

>>4376453
are you an ESL, anon?

>>4375858
Padko
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2yG-9ekUwTs8Q0yMSycMxA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZ7YDeIoTdc

>>4375423
All the kinds of MSGK insults on you

>>4374806

the few stuff i saw about her was pepe related. theres nothign wrong with acknowledging memes from time to time but with artia it seemed it was a pillar of her content. and not even her own memes. and that just appears uncreative and sad.

>>4374806
>Le epic virgin chad meme
>Le funny pogger and twitch emote
Sure anon, humor IS subjective after all

>>4374806
No, I like Gura more now even though I used to be a hardcore Artiafag.

>>4374806
I liked her talk about parasocial relationships, I liked that one Overwatch clip of her screaming with her American teammates, and I appreciate her dream of everyone having a vtuber avatar of their own one day. I probably wouldn't watch her even if the Taiwan thing hadn't happen, though. Fuck Overwatch.

>>4376187
>>4376265
>>4376453
I wonder why all three of these replies are rife with the same ESL errors and are agreeing with each other

>>4374806
she literally did a 4chan meme review, so...

>>4374806
Despite her being an absolute nationalist today, she had a bit of a unique personality and weird sense of humor back then. Her main catch was getting the overseas audience when there was a small amount of EN vtubers at that time.
The EN vtubers today are honestly much better today though. Her humor probably aged horribly, or maybe I'm just not a fan of twitch humor anymore.

>>4374806
move on Art*afags. she already reincarnated and you fags still stuck with this corpse

She was ok, I just don't like peddling twitch memes everywhere. I will always like homegrown community memes more.

There's also Rrat pushers in this thread. We know artia and the gang harassed Coco. Get over it. It's no rrat. Saying that there is no proof is a lie. The evidence with screenshots and videos get posted almost everytime one of these threads are up. If any of you damage control antis want to try to disprove them, why don't you go through the evidence one by one. Disprove the statements with real counter evidence. Unlike the fags pushing the "artia is an Anti" narrative, those of you who keep trying to say she dindu nuffin can't actually posts screenshots and videos, but instead deflect and outright ignore the evidence presented without bringing in your own. All because, "You just know", or "They were already disproven". Obviously, it wasn't disproven, because if it was you could have a pastebin on hand to counter the main arguments. It is what it is. Just know that however long you can't actually provide, the board will hate Artia, Civia, Rosalyn, and Doris for what they did to the two good chuubas' future and for their harassment of coco.
I suggest bringing out some translations to disprove. If you can't, Cope nigger.

>>4377072
Truly the greatest mystery of the era.

>>4377669
>The evidence with screenshots and videos get posted almost everytime one of these threads are up.
You mean the evidence that was ousted as a chink smear campaign over six months ago? To say nothing of the video that got taken down by Cover after it got reported for slander? Kek.

See, no actual evidence. Just more claims and deflection. It's sad really.

>>4377974
I checked all the archives and this never happened. What are you referring to?

>>4374806
>Politics aside, we can all agree she was funnier than your favorite Vtuber.

do u rele beleb?

She never made me laugh once, so no.

Why was her model so damn ugly

>>4379069
Why would they spend money on a model for a chink?

>>4374806
Why are artiafags still butthurt? That backstabbing judas reincarnated and everyone knows about it. Her bug viewers got assblasted because she streamed on twitch and didn't pander to them and now she only streams on billibilli. You can go watch your backstabbing whore there now.

>>4379826
Remember when those retards would link to that shit site? Literally NO ONE on the fucking planet goes to that site unless you're a bug yourself or a company is making you stream there.

>>4378435
Considering it was brought up repeatedly after it was revealed, I don't know what to tell you. The whole thing was a falseflag engineered by the same chink site behind the Coco harassment campaign, it got leaked on /jp/ back some time in October or November, IIRC. It was during the period where the same identical ESL posts were being made in support of the narrative on reddit, youtube, here and elsewhere, it was fucking hilarious how outrageously obvious the whole thing was.

>>4374806
She was the original Beatani AKA a non-Japanese girl in the Japanese vtuber scene who desperately wants to fuck gaijins and be a part of their culture, isolating their Japanese fans in the process. Thankfully Beatani was raised mostly in Japan so she was never brainwashed by China.

>>4380050
not the guy you're talking to
but why do that then? What's the point of getting everyone mad at artia? I mean if it's a fellow chink didn't he kinda backstab artia?

>>4374806
In what world does screaming chink at windmills count as politics?

>>4380050
Post the source. Destroy the rrat right here and right now. If you have the evidence, you have the power to change everyone's minds.

>>4380125
It was before Holo CN got liquidated and IIRC that same group just wanted to target Hololive in general, undermining western opinion of the likes of Artia, i.e. one of the most popular CNs among the western fans, was part of that effort. Or something to that effect, it was months ago and the site got taken down almost immediately, unsurprisingly.

>>4380270
Like I said, this happened six months ago, it was done with, the fact that people are still perpetuating the narrative I can only contribute to newfags being fed by chinkbots or actual chinkbots. Either way there's not much point in convincing anyone since 90% of the people who post in these threads are the ones who want to keep the retarded narrative going. Check the /jp/ archive for yourself if you care that much.

>>4380358
*attribute, even.

>>4377157
Agreed. I've also seen what she was going for done better by other vtubers (i.e. gremlin vtubers). Since her reincarnation has dropped the gremlin thing (aside from occasional hygiene jokes) she doesn't stand out as much compared to the sea of other vtubers out there.

>>4380358
This is the fate you left with yourselves. Letting rrats roam free without killing them properly. You can't even post a rrat killer yourself. Sad sight to see when the source turns out to be my ass.

>>4380358
Well then that group is idiotic. IF it's true all they did was hurt CN and their reputation.
And IF those rumors aren't true then it's the same result.

Either way it was only artia that would have had more or less hate. Even if she didn't do all those things i think she would be pretty aware of the rumors that "aren't true", she could have addressed it at any point during her graduation stream, a twitter post.
Anything. She didn't.

Either she's an idiot too for not addressing it or she actually is a backstabbing cunt.
She had a reddit account so don't tell me she didn't know about the rumors.

Thanks for coming to my tedtalk

>>4375375
Miko is a whore

>>4375375
GTA V Miko is genuinely the funniest vtuber content ever produced.

>>4380500
I'm feeling kind of indulgent, so here you go:
>>/jp/thread/28588993#p28589736

>>4380584
>Either she's an idiot too for not addressing it or she actually is a backstabbing cunt.
Or she didn't want to risk jeopardizing things further while she was still under contract and she didn't want to draw attention to the issue after she went indie because it could make things worse and draw antagonism between her twitch and BB viewers. We have no way of knowing her circumstances on the issue. Either way it's bullshit and if you really want to continue making it out that she was the bad guy that's your call.

>>4380773
The state of /vt/ posters

>>4381018
Who is funny to you, retard? You can't share because you know it won't be funny and you're just horny and are pretending she's funny.

even irl she looked like a callifornia cunt

Fuck her and fuck commies

>>4380993
Yeah I understand your point of view. But since neither of us understands chink we're both taking peoples word for what they are. Just words.
Are you 100% sure about that she had nothing to do with it? We're both just accepting one side or the other.

What about the streaming of that Nationalist movie with some of the CN girls btw?

>>4380076
totally agree, but I still want to punch you

>>4381018
Stay homu dayo

>>4380993
I don’t know what to believe anymore

>>4380993
lol even the old threads don't see the logic in the chinks attacking their own, lol. They think they're hurting hololive but they're only hurting themselves.

actual big kusa if true

>>4381047
You really think videogames playthrough with a funny voiced player is the best thing hololive did?

>>4381109
I mean you can see what the implication is from the limited English in the image alone, but if you chuck it into DeepL, this is what you get:
>III. Objectives and direction of attack of the "story
>The direction of attack toward the goal of the false flag operation
>Now, the most important thing is. First, we need a scapegoat, and who should it be?
>We need a material that is currently being actively discussed in the Western community but is hated by 4v.
>For this reason, we decided to pick :
>Alyssa Artia "The Story."
>She has been a major topic of discussion in the Western community, and the recent questions about HoloCN have made the discussion about her even more active, yet the 4v group is against them, and we can use this to incite distrust on both their parts. It's also a good time because Westerners are starting to believe in the 4v narrative.
>And, the good news is that 4v herself already provides the narrative
>She is well loved in the western community, but because of this story they are starting to become suspicious of her, calling her a betrayer and a deserter.
>The past few days have hurt her.
>4v is unforgivable and used her as a false flag to attack us, and for that we will give it back to them.
>Infiltration directions and narrative targets
>4channel
>Before we begin, I would like to suggest that you have a proficiency in English for best results, if you cannot, use the translator I provided earlier.
>The goal of the infiltration is to establish a negative opinion about Alisha and cause division among Westerners and push the blame to 4v.
>The primary goal of the keyword is when someone starts discussing Alya.
>An optional goal is to disrupt the discussion without causing the moderator to be suspicious.
>Please see the previous tutorials for how to infiltrate there, and now I will provide you with narrative material and some samples from the last infiltration.
>Appendix: keywords for narrative warfare and samples of previous infiltrations. (Last updated October 30, 2020)
>traitor traitor
>bugmen traitor chinese traitors
>judas backstabber bitch judas backstabbing whore
>fuck the judas whore traitor whore should get off
>get fucked judas 拧judas
>kill judas kill traitor
>byebye traitor gremlin we don't miss traitors
>fucking bugmen fucking Chinese
>CCP Supporter political party supporter
>You keep defending that judas traitor despite the facts and evidence that she backstabs coco you clearly have the facts and evidence that she betrayed ココ and yet you are still defending her.
>Coco is BASED for getting rid of the backstabbing judasココ made the good decision to kill the traitor
>Money can't buy everything, but billions will. one of her tweets
>Artia is off-topic in the thread she has no topic
>fucking chink bugmen Chinese devil
>who?
>who is she again?
>why should I care to this traitorous judas?
>Why are you defending her, are you chinese?
>Fuck off chang go support your traitor whore somewhere else Chinese people should go support their whore somewhere else
>Why does hlgg supports the chinese backstabber?Why does the holoEN fanbase support the chinese?
>fuck hlgg for supporting that judas whore i wish the holoEN fanbase would support that whore and go to hell
>she's not a part of hololive anymore she's not in hololive anymore
>go back to vyt if you want to discuss her, go to the general DD forum
>she's an indie now, so please go talk about her in vyt she's no longer in the company so you should discuss her in the general DD forum
>Can you take artiafags back from vyt? They are talking about that whore there now don't talk about Alyssa on the general DD forum, we don't like her
>Graduate her for being a backstabber
>They are raiding here again they are harassing here again
>Artia is joining Hitomi Chris and Alya will join forces with Hitomi to destroy cover
>Fans should do something about it Why did cover ignore holoCN?
>Don't post politics about the girls please, they have nothing to do with them, fuck off to /pol/ don't talk politics here
>Coco is streaming right now, go watch her instead ココ is online, go watch her now. (use this feature only when coco is online on youtube, use coco images)
>Artia posters are very annoying her fanbase is very annoying here
>Fuck off artiafag & discordtrannies her fanbase should be banned here
>ogey endings, pop-ups
>rrat endings, pop-ups
>The important thing here is that you must be careful with the keyword strings you use to post, the better it is, the better results it gives!
>Let me give you some examples based on our previous penetration :
>October 28, 2020 Infiltration
>October 30, 2020 Penetration (new update)
>Based on our past infiltration experience no one will suspect you unless your English is very poor.
>Try not to copy the exact same words from above, but make a new sentence based on those words and examples.

>>4381244
>>4381314
Looks like they didn't think Cover would just axe HoloCN, they bet on the wrong horse.

>>4381109
>Are you 100% sure about that she had nothing to do with it? We're both just accepting one side or the other.
Yeah, but the youtube accounts for the traitor narrative videos were all suspiciously made around the same the campaign started, it's all too convenient to have been some kind of a natural whistleblower action by an independent party. Honestly, I don't even care that much, I was just pissed that you couldn't so much as mention Artia back on /jp/ during that period without getting spammed by responses like in that pic, it was really fucking annoying and people who weren't around for it at least ought to know. The fact that it hasn't changed much doesn't help.
>What about the streaming of that Nationalist movie with some of the CN girls btw?
I dunno, maybe that actual was a placative action on her part for all we know, but that doesn't mean she was supporting Coco's harassment since that part seems to have been actually fabricated. We know on record she was fond of Coco before the Taiwan incident and she never unfollowed Coco at any point until her twitter account was completely disused, so there's that at least.

>>4374806
Yellow nigger hands typed this

>>4381404
I think they tried to frame it that is was coco's fans that harassed artia maybe? Or tried to make the west look bad for artia perspective? Or maybe they just did it because they felt like they needed to "attack" and "mobilize" without really thinking of what they're doing?

either way i really don't see a win in any way for anyone, this is joker "watch the world burn" moment haha.

If people unrelated to the entire Vtuber scene chipped in just because of the Taiwan thing, then why hate on artia? It's really weird haha

I kinda love that they're that dumb

>>4374806
Ching chong small dong

>>4381667
>I think they tried to frame it that is was coco's fans that harassed artia maybe?
This is almost certain, even now you'll see suspicious posts trying to cite arguments between Tatsunoko and anyone even remotely inclined to say something supportive of the former CN girls, it's not exactly subtle.

>>4381667
i mean they literally made a quite big part of an vtuber-entertainment/anime scene hate chinese people, kek

>>4381724
the sad part is they thought they would make coco's fans look bad, but i think it's pretty much unanimously the entire hololive base hates them now. not just artia that is but chinese people

>>4381724
*incite, even.

>>4381804
Honestly, I don't understand the motivation. They STILL spam Coco's streams (especially her T2 ones, since they're less heavily moderated) after all this time, despite having achieved nothing beyond getting Cover out of China's fucked up business laws and killing HoloCN. I guess some idiots just want to watch shit burn even if there's no merit, it's not like /b/tards and the like haven't done similarly stupid shit in the past.

>>4375579
I find the timing of the EN branch blowing up and the Taiwan yab interesting.
From what I can tell, Hololive knew long ago that they had to expand past Japan. China seemed like a good fit since they have a huge population and love anime shit over there, so they made deals with Bilibili, founded the CN branch, and spent a lot of money trying to push their brand.
What nobody expected was that meanwhile, the English-speaking Hololive community was blowing up too. Unlike CN, the English community's growth was completely organic and driven by people who liked the content itself. Cover saw it as a success, so they greenlit EN as a sort of "let's try it out" thing sort of like ID.
Around the same time as the wildly successful EN debuts, the Taiwan yab happened and Cover had to choose between dropping Coco and scrapping their entire operation in China. But EN proved that they now had an alternative: the west. I firmly believe that if HoloEN hadn't just demonstrated their enormous potential, and if the English community wasn't so fond of Coco, Cover may very well have sided with China after all. After all, they're not above throwing a single girl under the bus.

>>4381898
I agree that we've seen heights of stupidity and anarchy on this site, but they're still shooting themselves in the foot.

It was a good talk man, thanks for sharing your findings.

>>4380993
It still cracks me up that the chink raiding guide has definitions for ogey and rrat.

>>4381920
yea pretty much the circle of events. I think they were high and mighty because of the sub numbers on bili, but they don't really splash superchats like a worldwide western audience does. Holo now gets money from US, EU and rest of the world because of the English language accessibility

>>4381965
I'm glad it was useful, it didn't really occur to me that people didn't know about the /jp/ thing so it's good to keep them informed. Maybe some day there'll be enough payoff that both Tia and Coco's streams are spam-free. I doubt that day will be any time soon, but hope springs eternal.

>>4375579
You're actually retarded if you believe that the branch underperforming is the reason they axed it.

>>4381404
>scapegoat
kek. No matter how they write it the bugs themselves are to blame in the first place. No matter how much they hide behind the CN girls they try to paint as "traitorous" everyone knows they are to blame for everything. Are they so retarded to think that everyone would forgive them if they pin it on some talents when they were the ones that got pissed off over a statistic in the first place?

>>4382181
Not him. I don't think it was the main reason but it could've been a factor considering that Holo en had just debuted to massive success and Coco had earned $1 million in superchats before it happened.

Funny how Artia was the first Holo to be a mod on Reddit despite all of Artia's Discord in total and complete denial about this when they tell you to go back and call you a newfag. Not to mention I am indeed 6'7" and jacked.

>>4381898
they think they achieve something because their metric of success depends on some guy feeding them bullshit on forums, presumably

>>4374806
>poggers kappa feelsbadman
no.
no.

>>4374806
In some ways, yes.

However I did want them to collab on meme review, either we'd have another cali and she'd be awkward (either due to not finding the memes/Coco funny or just naturally awkward, Coco incident could be another factor if one wished hard enough for CN to live past that) or she'd be much like moona and really connect with Coco, there is always the third possibility that she'd be a different take of Cali where instead of being too stunned to react to the humor towards her senpai's she'd break rank and scold her but that's a possibility we'll never know now.

Regardless of what she may or may not have done, after the Moona collab I had a bit of a soft spot for her, even though that collab felt awkward as Moona couldn't really connect to her making me think she was boring but really Artia without filter is tough

But is she funnier than Ollie, god fucking no, I don't need to sperg out with possibilities here

>>4374806
She had the personality of every generic Twitch streamer.
So unless that's your thing, no.

>>4375027
Well it does

>>4374903
And nothing of value was lost. But this thread is also worthless.

>>4381404
I get there's an implication, no doubt about it. The Antis were playing it up and falseflagging in threads. I knew this already. What I want is the evidence that directly discredits the pastebins about Artia using alt-accounts and the messages in her discord to harass coco. It should be easy enough since we know have the implications. That is what can really kill this rrat and get tia back on 4chan's good side.

>>4374806
No. I never laughed with her only at her. She was very stupid and struggled with the english language. That's like saying a fatty is funny because they fall over a lot, she couldn't come up with a joke to save her life.

>>4384472
I don't know anything about that shit. As far as I can tell, the only thing that's provably true is:
>Artia watched Wolf Warrior for some reason
>She admitted to having taken part in some raidfaggotry or some bullshit some time ago which may have had something to do with anti-Taiwanese independence
Everything else is either hearsay or has absolutely no evidence to support it. Considering the extent the falseflaggers were going to in order to discredit her, I wouldn't be surprised if all of it is bullshit, but without evidence I wouldn't be inclined to believe it either way. What we do know is that she was an open fan of Coco before the Taiwan fiasco - my only speculation is that this probably painted a target on her that turned certain chinks against her and/or put her in an awkward position so that she felt the need to placate them by doing shit like watching Wolf Warrior. Regardless of the reasons, the retarded smear campaign in its own right is enough to suggest that most if not all of what's been said is horseshit. Certainly the stuff that's been claimed without evidence or taken down by Cover for slander isn't worth considering.

>>4375403
Cope

>>4375140
She didn't organize shit, some of her discord mods did though. the extent of her involvement was posting a small amount of encouragement, something like "I understand your feelings, hold the line" iirc.

>>4385017
That fucking "hold the line" shit was the most dubiously translated part of the whole fiasco. Some people were swearing up and down that it was in support of the anti-Coco campaign while others said it could mean a myriad of different things, like "just keep it together during these difficult times" sort of thing. I'm really not inclined to believe anyone on that shit when it's so fucking vague.

>>4384844
I can chalk off the wolf warrior faggotry as just a movie. I don't actually know what the movie is about other than it being associated with the CCP because of a nationalist group that formed around it. I remember people were comparing it to Rambo. Last I heard though, there's no government funded group called The Rambos in the public eye of the U.S. The Video of her raiding was her alluding to the OCP, we know that for sure. Still, What I really care about is her harassment towards other members. I don't give a fuck about her politics.
Also, there's definitely evidence of her using alt accounts. I just wanted to know if you had any provable sources to debunk it.

>>4376862
I’m sold

>>4385164
>Also, there's definitely evidence of her using alt accounts. I just wanted to know if you had any provable sources to debunk it.
Every Holo has alts and IIRC there was nothing except extremely vaguely translated messages being used to allegedly claim that she was involved in the harassment. There's nothing to "debunk" it to my knowledge but it also sounds like absolute bullshit to me. I suppose people are entitled to believe what they want but the smear campaign makes me extremely disinclined to believe any of it, personally.

>>4374806
>Politics aside, we can all agree she was funnier than your favorite Vtuber.
>funnier than your favorite Vtuber.

Do yu rele belebe?

>>4374806
>Politics aside
But her political views were the only funny thing about her.

>>4374806
No.

>>4376862
for you

Since every post that is anti-artia is esl I think she did nothing wrong

>>4387120
t. esl

>>4374806
No.

>>4374806
Mine is Miko so nah.

>>4385099
Show me the chink words for that and I will translate for you

>>4382849
It's an excuse they use to say why they axed the branch. Better to say they are underperforming than say we are choosing coco over the CN branch. They make more money than Stars and ID at that time plus they were scheduled to be part of bilibili event. I firmly believe underperformance is just an excuse they came up with and if there is no taiwan incident none of this would have happened anyways.

>>4381404

>>4390174
Interesting, thanks for letting me know.

>>4380993
>>4381404
>>4384472
All the chinks did was crash their own plane into the ground, making the entire vtuber community hate them
Artia's (and the rest of holoCN) still shows their politics are bugmen, and Artia drew that one thing during her twitter mental breakdown that very clearly showed the silhouette of a dragon and a red heart, which is very on the nose

zhang may have blown it out of proportion because of their lack of critical thinking skills but I doubt artia was a saint or anything

>>4374847
>Ame
>funny

>>4390988
Nice dubs and here is her drawing for reference.

>>4391073
What's it supposed to show? A dragon breathing fire at her?

>>4391110
Dragon = Coco
Red Heart = Haachama

>>4391011
>Artia
>Funny

>>4385164
actually watched it since I'm learning Mandarin and watching Chinese language movies is a very good way of learning a language. Wolf Warrior is an incredibly aggressively nationalistic movie, in a very overt way. Even if you give her the benefit of the doubt, it was incredibly reckless of her to watch it at the time given the context.

>>4374806
Do you really belieb that?

>>4374806
Damn I watched her last stream and I am in love. She has the most beautiful soul. Exactly what a Vtuber should be like.

Why do the good ones have to leave while complete garbage like Nyanshit, Veibae and Coco stay? This world truly is shit.

>>4374847
>korone
>funny

>>4391197
Both Coco and Haachama are shit. What is the issue?

>>4390174
The dumb cunt Coco ruined it? Why is Cover so attached to that disgusting public pube shaving skank?

>>4391776
Is this zhang propaganda?

>>4391858
Everyone sides with Coco and haachama for taiwan incident. If you think of agreeing with the bugs then you are already metamorphizing into one

>>4392004
>has a hive-like mentality of "everyone already agrees with this"
>calls others bugs
kek

>>4392004
I have no idea what the taiwan incident is. I guess the girls fought over politics.

All I know is that Coco is complete garbage on par with the worst of Vshojo and Haachama is not too far behind. Fuck those cunts regardless.

>>4392034
I meant to write "everyone should side".
>>4392282
Doesn't matter what their content is. Showing a youtube analytic that has the word taiwan on it was all she did.

>>4393061
Still bugman mentality, mutt.

>>4393088
So fucking what. You think she deserves to get fired for that?

>>4374806
>DUDE POGGERS LAMO
>funny

>>4393209
Yes.

>>4374806
Artia’s autism voice was pretty entertaining.

>>4374806
Politics aside, it was the CN fan's responsibility to protect any idols they liked from their own nationalist comrades. By choosing to remain silent and allowing the schitzos to retire their own fucking branch they should all quit being fans of vtubers forever. Fuck the 'normal chinese fan' inaction, get out of here zhang

This was my favorite Artia moment. https://streamable.com/0d3jjj

>>4394354
I laughed my ass off when this happened. Best Ark stream.

>>4394354
Favorite artia moment is other talents laughing at her kek

>>4394457
>>4394571
What's the context? Is it cause the house is bad or something?

>>4397624
It was probably just slightly awkward considering they were just fresh out of the china situation and HoloCN just got fired

didnt she cheat in apex like every other zhang that plays fps games

>>4399032
Did she? I know she got a high level in Overwatch but I thought that was legit (dead game so kinda irrelevant). Afaik she hadn't started playing APEX until more recently and sucks ass at it. I could be wrong tho.

>>4385164
All she did (that we know) in the alt account is saying "hold the line". Which is understood as "defend one china policy". She definitely still thinks this way, given a recent twitch stream comments about how its good to defend your country. But, she also ranted about how its sad that people get manipulated to fight each other for stupid reasons. And she's always wanted to bridge the cultural gap between the fanbases and bring peace (shared minecraft map project, first reddit mod, etc) which is not surprising since she's living in the US.

We have no evidence of her attacking Coco herself. The Andy and other schizochink translators were in the discord, yes. They got eventually banned, but it was too late. Seems like some mods were complicit and defending them. She's also swapped mods at least twice from then (first those mods, then she had hololive translator mods, and they resigned about a month ago to focus on translations). Why would she get "normal" hololive translators as head mods after the shitstorm if she were that much of a schizo anti?.
The pic in >>4391073 is real though.

I think the hold the line thing got mixed in the heat of everything else, including the chink antiartia campaign >>4380993, that youtube video with the comments, etc and it all dragged her down to hell.

>>4374806
No one gives a fuck anymore.
We are, as expected, better without bugmen. Good bye I never see you again.

Since this is chink bashing thread another bugmen got doxxed today by Taiwanbros. Idiot was stupid enough to wheelbarrow roboco stream on his 1-2 year member account. He even did some roboco fanart and was followed by her on twitter. It is really fascinating how those bugmans behave - just throw everything away and betray your oshi beacuse someone read google statistics. Always thought that political twitter had the biggest npc's that literally cannot think for themselves but those chinks beat everything.

https://vtdata.info/youmitoru?a=UCkzmB1H8nG4CtGSvhse7N5g
He locked his twitter but he is now getting railed in comments on his pixiv page
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/90030508
And whole thread here
https://majeur.zawarudo.org/virtuelles/res/923818.html#924481

>>4381314
yagoo was a farmer? cool

>>4400915
Saving this thanks

>>4400915
This should become the standard for all schizo antis that obsess over and constantly harass entertainers (directly or not).

>>4374847
>vtubers
>funny

>>4399376
New lore of Tia
> ice goddess who fight evil dragon and melt.

Well, Evil dragon sound like Coco for me

What happened to Tia and the others anyway? Were they reincarnated?

Artia may know or not but Artia discord mods cannot deny about support attacking Hololive. They know everything in November before Hololive got axed and at early state of drama.

If they decide to stop Andy and stop drama in NGA once and for all. Artia may survive this day.

Do not forget, Whitell and Andy are headleader Wolf warrior in NGA who send spam script and sell ID to spam for profit.

>>4399149
cant find the video now, but i remember a clip in apex where her aim snapped to the head of someone that wasn't very visible. it looked like some fov aimbot that didn't have smoothing.
going off my own 3k~ hours in csgo, it didn't feel like a smooth, 'natural' flick, unless she uses a high sens.
i never bothered with ow since the end of season 1, so i wouldn't know much about it, but it does seem like good aim is not necessary to place well.

>>4400915
I recognize that link
based taiwanbros

>>4400915
esbros...

>>4402169
Yeah, all of them except Doris are active.

>>4402718
managers were pissed artia was NTRing the bilifags with twitch so she's confined to the bili2 mines for the time being though

>>4402820
That's what I meant. They're active but only on bilibili right now.

>>4400915
Fucking based, I'm saving this for later.

>>4390988
>>4391073
>The only evidence outside of the ousted smear campaign is a dubiously translated tweet and fantasy imagery that could mean literally anything or nothing
People will apparently jump at literal shadows and read into shit that isn't there, more news at 11.

>>4399376
I'd like to remind everyone that the youtube video was actually taken down by Cover after it was reported for slander. The more you know.

>>4374806
poggers dude

>>4403239
come on dude
>some kind of dragon monster
>a "RED HEART"
it's way too fuckin obvious

>>4391776
ok chink

>>4374806
Funnier than pekora..?

>>4391858
>>4392282
>>4393088
commit suicide, ESL purityfag

>>4374806
No.

>>4405304
You know what's actually obvious? The fact that chinkbots are still keeping this narrative alive after all this time despite being caught. Sometimes a dragon is just a fucking dragon.

>>4391073
>"Ciyana" written on the dragon
>"I don't have any friends, I only trust chat" -Tia (Not a direct quote but something along those lines from one of her Twitch streams)
Making Ciyana the dragon is an interesting choice if the rrats are true about her and Tia not being friends anymore. I doubt she meant it like that at the time since they (re)debuted a day apart, but it could've taken on a double meaning in retrospect.

>>4405869
They still follow each other on twitter, it was probably just done for their character relationship to make them rivals in-setting or something.

fuck this thread and everybody in it, yogurt was amazing, RIP yogurt.

>>4374806
No, I think she's retarded, can't really fault her for being nationalistic but she's retarded nonetheless.

>>4380993
Just so you know, the bugs have come up with literally hundreds of false-flag campaigns like this, and only a couple of those were actually executed. And those that were executed were done extremely poorly and were completely obvious to be bullshit by literally everyone. You may remember such hits as the "Coco is a vegetarian" campaign.
I would bet everything I own that some autistic 19 year old made up that graphic, then posted it on NGA and baha, a bunch of people commented "right on brother let's rush" and then a total of one guy posted 2 or 3 broken English messages in the wrong thread that went completely ignored. The ultimate issue is that Chinese people can NOT speak English, and MTLs turn Chinese into incomprehensible ESL nonsense, so none of their shit ever works. They have had zero influence over the English and Japanese speaking Hololive fandom other than making us hate them with their psychotic spam.
>>4397624
This was shortly after most of the HoloCN girls changed their social media profiles to remove mentions of Hololive, made comments that Cover wouldn't receive a cut of their superchat donations that month, started having menhera breakdowns, etc., and who knows what else was going on behind the scenes. So it was very likely that all the girls knew that the branch was about to get the axe and their graduation notices would be posted next week. Also I'm pretty sure this was Gen 5's first or second Ark stream, so they were going around checking out all their senpai's creations and having a great time, then Polka finds her soon to be ex-senpai's house which makes the mood awkward, which was funny to her.

>>4407310
Do you think there are chink moderates who secretly dislike the actions of the NGA folk?

>>4401737
>4chan
>funny

>>4407310
>a total of one guy posted 2 or 3 broken English messages in the wrong thread that went completely ignored.
I'm going to assume you weren't around for the threads on /jp/ during that period because it was prolific as fuck and it persists to this day.

>>4374806
>Twitch humor
>funny

Sneed.

>>4407310
I remember zhangs on alts spamming it under every piece of Artia fanart even before her menhera breakdown. Hell there was a judas poster under her tweet about peace and shit, which was also when the graphic started to get spread. It did catch on with reddit, but chinks sure spread the shit out of it on Twitter.

>>4383352
No

>>4407547
>I remember zhangs on alts spamming it under every piece of Artia fanart even before her menhera breakdown
They did it everywhere, even her article on the chuuba wiki. It's fucking pathetic because some of the comments are almost identical to ones here, on reddit and elsewhere, there's no real effort to make it subtle at all.
>Hell there was a judas poster under her tweet about peace and shit, which was also when the graphic started to get spread.
Also the youtube accounts for the traitor narrative videos were made around almost the exact same time. It absolutely reeks of a deliberate coordinated effort considering it was suddenly compiling information that had been available for months, you'd think anyone who'd legitimately thought it was important would've brought it to light well before then.

>>4375423
It would be extremely painful

>>4407452
Sneed is probably the most forced and unfunny 4chan meme to ever gain traction, so I'm not sure you have ground to stand on here.

>>4376453
>They even use " Actor among us" plan at Reddit and 4chan but fail.
A-A-A-AMOGUS???!!!?

>>4374847
>
>funny

women generally arent funny. she made me laugh at her though

>>4408010
>t. chuck

>>4374847
>funny

>>4400915
>nooooooo not your oshi
she is a fictional corporate commodity who will never touch you

Best Artia moment was her shit talking her Genji without realizing her mic was on.

>>4374847
>

>>4407441
Yeah because /vpol/ is fucking retarded

>>4407424
Of course, but they keep to themselves. You don't really speak out against psycho nationalists in China.
>>4407441
First of all, I was there since before Artia debuted, so I know that she was hated by many on /jp/ as soon as they discovered she is a living embodiment of Twitch chat.
Secondly, I think you are misunderstanding what the bugs were trying to do there, not that I blame you because the plan was fuckin' retarded.
The false-flag attack is supposed to make Westerners hate Taiwan, not Artia. The bugs didn't invent those phrases listed there, or come up with the Judas thing, that was all organic 4chan users. The plan was to go to /hlg/, where the bugmen for some reason thought that Artia was beloved, and then shit talk her, which would make us mad at Taiwanese people.

>>4380993
>>4381667
>>4381726
Alright, I'm starting to believe it was all a home grown pysop to get the Western fanbase against China.
Either that or bugmen are just fucking stupid.

>>4374847
All of them are unfunny.
If you want actual, high quality comedy, watch actual Youtubers instead.

>>4409297
>First of all, I was there since before Artia debuted, so I know that she was hated by many on /jp/ as soon as they discovered she is a living embodiment of Twitch chat.
A few vocal shitposters in /hlg/ != hated by many.
>The bugs didn't invent those phrases listed there, or come up with the Judas thing, that was all organic 4chan users
Again, I'm finding it hard to believe that you were even there for the threads because it was inorganic as fuck. The posts were confined to specific timeframes during which they were spammed prolifically by obvious ESL posters. The only time prior to that was the dubious argument over the "hold the line" tweet, which didn't have the vast majority of those obvious inflammatory traitor lines. Everything after that was artificial as fuck, particularly the ones pushing the youtube videos (with the corresponding accounts created during the same period) and the ones that were almost identical to those posted on youtube, reddit and twitter. It was obscenely obvious, so stop being disingenuous.

>>4409387
I'm starting to think that every country might be retarded

>>4409483
>youtubers
>funny

>>4381404
Damn, chinks were actually willing to call themselves bugmen just to infiltrate this place? So much for honor.

>>4374806
Doubt it but then again all I saw from her is a clip of her talking about how she used to be part of the psychotic chinks group that goes around spamming people to show their nationalist proud.

>>4374806
FUN IS NOT A CONCEPT THAT EXISTS FOR YOUR BENEFIT.
REJECT MODERNITY, EMBRACE THE STIGIAN PROTOMIND.

>>4409590
Anon... that infographic is the call to arms. It was made before the campaign started. And it is filled with screenshots of people already talking shit about Artia, and quotes that they copied from posts that were already here. The bugs do not have a time machine. They didn't make those posts in the image. People were doing that before they arrived.
I believe you are confused by the fact that there were actually many more Artia haters than you seem to remember, and all of her fans left for the global thread shortly before the China shit.

>>4410839
>Anon... that infographic is the call to arms. It was made before the campaign started
Yes, I totally believe that that specific infographic is the first and only attempt to incite this kind of bullshit. See my point below for more on that.
>it is filled with screenshots of people already talking shit about Artia
You mean the ones listed under the heading that says:
>让我给你一些例子,基于我们之前的渗透 :
Which, according to DeepL, means:
>Let me give you some examples based on our previous penetration :
Unless you're telling me DeepL is wrong about the "previous penetration" part, I don't think your point holds up very well. Like I said, the spam was inorganic and, coordinated with all the other shit like the youtube vids and matches shit found on other sites almost 1-to-1, so no, I don't believe for one minute that it started naturally from posters here, even if there were some people who hated Artia for pre-existing reasons.
>I believe you are confused by the fact that there were actually many more Artia haters than you seem to remember
No, I think you just have selective memory and don't like to think you're part of a vocal minority. Which is understandable but please don't start trying to fabricate history to convince people who were fucking there at the time.

>artia thread
>words words words words words words
Every time. I just want to talk about my beloved ice elementalist in peace.

>>4402718
Are you privy to the backstabbing and drama surrounding their reincarnation processes that I keep hearing about?
Also, how are Spade Echo and Chowa doing?

>>4374806
She's a dumb retard with a zoomer brain in the body of someone in their mid 20s
People love to post the clip of her shitting on Choco's singing while she plays OW meanwhile this bitch's voice sounds like Smeagle from Lord of the Rings

>>4374806
No, my favorite vtuber appeals to me because she is a hard worker, learning 7 languages at the same time, she ain't trying to be funny and I like her that way.

>>4411182
>Unless you're telling me DeepL is wrong about the "previous penetration" part, I don't think your point holds up very well.
It is wrong. Better translation would be "infiltrate" rather than "penetrate", and by that they mean they just went to 4chan and looked at it. Don't get confused by their chuuni lingo.
>the spam was inorganic and, coordinated
It seemed coordinated because everyone in the west had the same feelings towards her. If you recall, she liked the Coco/Haato suspension announcement on twitter, then told the chinamen to hold the bottom line (which means one China policy), then tweeted "don't talk about politics in my chat" within the span of 24 hours. In Western culture that's considered not very nice, which made everyone mad at her. Which boogeymen do you even think is behind the Artia hate if it isn't regular 4chan users?
>don't start trying to fabricate history
Look up 25092267, it's the first thread after her official twitch debut. Half of the posts about her are bitching about her and her obnoxious fans for shitting up the past 2 threads. And that's her first stream. It didn't get better after that.

>>4374806
She was unironically too funny for hololive. People simply refuse to recognize her uniqueness because of racism against Chinese people. Americans are just seething because in 20 years China will own the world.

>>4413356
>It is wrong. Better translation would be "infiltrate" rather than "penetrate"
The key word was "previous", m8. Also I'm curious to know how you apparently know Chinese to any significant degree. Would it have anything to do with the absurd amount of time it's taking for you to reply to my posts?
>A dubious action, a highly questionably translated statement and an entirely understandable demand = "not very nice"
It was narrativefaggots going absolutely fucking wild, as per usual.
>Which boogeymen do you even think is behind the Artia hate if it isn't regular 4chan users?
Oh I know there's a handful of dedicated /vpol/tards who refused to get the fuck out of /hlg/, and they were called out in that very same thread you pointed out. But those weren't the ones spearheading the traitor campaign, the ones doing it were all ESL and written in a way that didn't even remotely resemble someone familiar with /jp/ or even 4chan in general. I'm sure plenty of them took the opportunity to jump on the bandwagon after the fact since it suited their agenda, but that's besides the point.
>then told the chinamen to hold the bottom line (which means one China policy)
Yep, I remember the posts going on about it and I also remember them being suspiciously ESL as fuck.

Basically you've completely missed the point that the chinks had been doing this for a while, since at least as far back as well before >>/jp/thread/S27014334#p27016188 but probably much further, since the ESL posts are from even further back. You're deluded in thinking that a handful of /vpol/tards jumping in on a narrative campaign qualifies as a "natural" action from local posters.

>>4413759
Uh you do know that chinks like Artia, right?

This all wouldn't have had happened if coco didn't have a saviour complex. Had she stayed quiet haachama's accident probably wouldn't have blown up and she'd probably just have to delete the vod and apologise on twitter. That's it. I don't know how people can defend coco when she's clearly the one who riled things up and actively provoked the antis. She's the one who turned a little accident into a war between cover and mainland china.

Since this is the China general can someone tells me how to estimate the real live viewer count in bilibili? I remember reading here that the "popularity score" they show isn't really the viewer count and you have to divide it by something.

>>4413849
>I haven't been keeping up with the discussion at all but I'll spout bullshit regardless
This whole discussion started because of the fucking chink smear campaign against Artia from last year, see >>4380993 and >>4381404.

>>4414025
There's no way for a human to figure it out. You would basically need a bot to constantly monitor a stream to figure it out, but that also requires knowing what B2's viewer formula is, and I don't know if that is public/reverse engineered yet.
>>4414062
Allow me to quote my earlier post:
>The false-flag attack is supposed to make Westerners hate Taiwan, not Artia.
The entire point I'm trying to make is that Chinese people aren't influencing Western opinion on Hololive shit, because they are actually retarded and completely detached from reality. They didn't even know about 4chan until weeks after everyone already hated Artia. If you think those morons engineered a master plan to get English speakers to turn on Artia then you're even dumber than they are.

>>4409590
Not that anon but at the time I assumed that youtube and infographic were made by a taiwanbro trying to bring down artia (due to the ESL, translations and formatting), I wasnt aware of the chink campaign.

>>4414416
That is correct, and the reason for the Chinese campaign to try to get English speakers against Taiwan. They were mad one of their girls got exposed.

>>4411772
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6elJvk8jKg
chowa got her 3d. I think spade echo is still a png of a pink cat in a box of french fries

>>4414283
>They didn't even know about 4chan until weeks after everyone already hated Artia.
You have no evidence for this beyond your own speculation, all we know is that this shit had been going on for months and that even the nips had managed to catch wind of it and tried to warn people through reddit, see the link I posted before. Stop conflating your own personal /vpol/faggotry with the retarded narratives drafted by the chinks.

>>4414416
The youtube video account creation and infographic were concurrent with the campaign. If you're trying to convince me that two chink actions taken more or less simultaneously with the same methodology are merely coincidental or even contrary to each other, then you're fucking mental.

>>4414503
The video and infographic aren't even cited in the call to arms faggotry along with the other content of "western suspicions against Artia", they were arranged at around the same time so it's not like it could even be a reaction to it. They were obviously made by the same idiots or at least those with the same agenda, it's not fucking rocket science.

>>4414648
> If you're trying to convince me that two chink actions taken more or less simultaneously with the same methodology are merely coincidental or even contrary to each other, then you're fucking mental.
I'm just noting that was my assumption at the time, I wasn't aware of the campaign (I saw the ogey etc translation copypasted in threads but not the artia part). I'm sure more people took it like that.

>>4414944
I figured as much, which is why it was apparently necessary for me to dig it up again. I had no idea so many people didn't know about obvious stuff that happened on /jp/ months ago and just take things at face value. This is the same shit as what's happened with people taking Vei's words about Cover and Hololive as absolute fact, despite it being total nonsense. People shouldn't believe just anything they read online, and yet they always do.

>>4414025
>>4414283
>There's no way for a human to figure it out.
Alright thanks. How about the followers (关注) count, is it accurate?

>>4414648
You don't seem to understand any of this. Let me lay it out. There's three factions:

1. The bugmen, from mainland China. They are the ones angry at Hololive and still attacking it to this day. They also hate people from Taiwan, unless they are CCP sympathizers, which is not very common on the island. They like all of HoloCN and consider them to be loyal to China. They renamed the group of them to "ourgirls" once they dropped the Hololive branding.

2. Taiwanese people. They still like Hololive, and they don't like China. They also don't like Artia (or the rest of HoloCN) because they feel she betrayed Hololive by encouraging group 1 to sperg out, as well as agreeing with their spergout in general. For the most part they have the same attitudes as English speakers.

3. English speakers. They like Hololive, and generally don't like China after the events of the chinkout. Most of them didn't like China before that even.

The twitter post where some ESL exposed Artia for encouraging Chinese people to attack Hololive, that translated Youtube video where Artia admitted to participating in a nationalist campaign against some Taiwan group (which was an accurate translation, even though Cover took it down), and that one infographic that spread mostly on reddit laying out all of Artia's crimes, those were all made by group 2. There was not any secret campaign there, just random Taiwan fans who wanted English speakers to know that Artia was a rat so they translated shit and then posted it on Twitter and Reddit, starting in the end of September, right after the suspensions into mid October. This is when the judasposting started, basically the same day as the suspensions (Sep 27).

Fast foward to three weeks later, October 19. Coco isn't fired and resumes streaming. This riles up the bugmen (group 1). HoloCN then starts going menhera, probably because the talks of them getting fired start. Around this time some retarded Chinese man hatches the master plan laid out in >>4380993 and pic related. The plan is to talk shit about Artia on Western websites, where they (group 3) love Artia except they didn't anymore which would make them angry, and blame Taiwanese people (group 2), for no discernable reason, causing a rift to form between the two groups that Chinese people (group 1) previously saw as allies. I think the idea was to post so much that people would get annoyed and blame Taiwan for spamming 4chan, but it had very little participation so it wasn't really possible to tell the Chinese falseflaggers from regular Artia haters. Or maybe it was enough since it apparently worked on you.

>>4416023
That one is accurate as far as we know.

>>4416724
there's also some level of chinese (no taiwan) infight, I remember threads talking about conflict between the most persistent NGA wheelbarrow schizos and a fanbase that still watches hololive
It's been months but should be in the archive (around january I think)

>>4413895
NO, This is Andy and Chink in NGA narrative. Coco not know about Haachama.

Chink in NGA was planning to attack Haachama but they just change target to Coco.

It is reverse Anon , because of Chink want Haachama dead at the beginning that why they think Coco try to protect Haacama !!

>>4417031
I can confirm about it. They have civil war 2-3 time but if you talk about January. You may be mean Tausunoko ( yes, it very rare bit they exist) in CN fight Antis at Bilibili or another CN platfrom

>>4413895
I mean bat soup rot your brain so no wonder you cant understand anything.

Interesting. And to think all this happened because Taiwan got mentioned as a country. China annoys everyone with politics.

>>4417140
It didn’t even get mentioned as a country. Coco didn’t even call it a country. All she did was show the analytic then said that 7% of her viewers are from Taiwan, that was it.

>>4416724
About 2-3 you are right but about 1 you must add more 1 faction.

1.5 Wolf warrior nationlist who make more drama for profit by selling spam program and ID for spam. They are Artia discordfag name Whitell and They are original Andy.

They are mastermind who create more and more drama and Artia discord mods decide to help them as accomplice.

They not angry to Hololive but they want destroy Hololive for money and " fun". It's very difference.

Their gold is purity of China Vtuber community . They want to destroy every Non - CN vtuber in China platfrom not only Hololive anymore.

They want become terrorist in the world of Vtuber community. Everyone must fear them.

>>4417140
She just show Taiwan word only at that.

>>4417246
#Ahem# Their goal

>>4417245
>>4417276
Oh right I forgot, my mistake there. That definitely doesn't it make it any better though. Damn chinks.

>>4416724
Here's the fundamental flaw with your claims: you have fuck all evidence supporting the idea that the Taiwanese are the ones presenting evidence against Artia instead of it being part of the chink falseflag to sow discord, the latter of which is clearly laid out in the intentions. If you presume to speak Chinese to a native level, then I'm afraid there is even less reason to believe you since you could very easily be part of this horseshit. The fact of the matter remains that the claims against Artia coincided perfectly with the timeline for the dumbass falseflag campaign, so there's very little to indicate that they aren't part of the same operation.
> that translated Youtube video where Artia admitted to participating in a nationalist campaign against some Taiwan group (which was an accurate translation, even though Cover took it down)
It was taken down after being reported for SLANDER. What the fuck do you expect me to believe?
>that one infographic that spread mostly on reddit laying out all of Artia's crimes
The one supported by parroted posts identical to those made here and on youtube? You really expect me to believe that was some kind of earnest operation to reveal the truth and not a smear campaign?
>This is when the judasposting started, basically the same day as the suspensions (Sep 27).
So exactly the same time as when the nips tried to warn people about the chink falseflag operation, then. Good to know it all adds up.
>Or maybe it was enough since it apparently worked on you.
Worked on me how? I don't think the Taiwanese are involved at all, I think you're misconstruing the information available and that the whole thing was part of the same chink operation since that's what the evidence points to. You have presented nothing to actually support your case beyond lofty claims and I (nor anyone else) have any reason to believe you.

>>4417246
>>4417293
Holy fucking bug, fuck off.

>>4417526
>> that translated Youtube video where Artia admitted to participating in a nationalist campaign against some Taiwan group (which was an accurate translation, even though Cover took it down)
>It was taken down after being reported for SLANDER. What the fuck do you expect me to believe?
Artia literally admitted to everything in that video on her roommate account wtf are you trying to push here

>>4417604
>Artia literally admitted to everything in that video on her roommate account
I'm sorry, when was this ever mentioned or brought up? Why is this being mentioned now? Why the fuck should I believe you?
>wtf are you trying to push here
I'm calling you a barefaced liar with some gay ass agenda. I'm doing so because I've seen you faggots do this for over half a year now and it's getting fucking old.

>>4417604
yeah everything else he said sounds reasonable, but the overwatch video is legit. I think the raid she was talking about in the video is this event:
https://globalvoices.org/2015/11/17/china-unblocks-facebook-trolls-harassment-taiwan-presidential-candidate/

>>4417526
>If you presume to speak Chinese to a native level, then I'm afraid there is even less reason to believe you since you could very easily be part of this horseshit.
So if anyone here were to claimed they could speak mandarin you would just right them off as chink? if so why didn't you right these guys off as chink >>4380993. Since they could be, "Muh falseflaggers". All this time, the only evidence you have for righting off that info graphic is that it could be a falseflag. Why don't you just present some evidence that it's not. It should be easy enough. Why don't you get some taiwanese translator that you believe in. Show some archives that the video translation was bad and was rrat pushing. I remember the only people who were pushing the video was a mistranslation were one of the artfiafag chinks brigading against coco doing damage control on threads and reddit. I also remember that same guy was one of the first reddit mods.

>>4417721
(not that anon) yeah the virtualyoutubers reddit mod, I remember.

The only real solid evidence we have is:
>hold the line
>overwatch video talking about the 2015 event
>spammers covered by mods in artia discord (later on spammers got banned and mods changed)

There's no evidence that artia purposefully harassed or incited harassment to hololive. There is evidence that she defends the One China policy. I don't know if the shitstorm changed her views, but at least now she sounds like she's pro country-defense, but anti attacking. Think of the US libertarians that are nationalists but also against wars in the middle east, for example.

I think it was Doris who was caught straight up inciting the chink antis on a roomate account. Artia could have done that, but didnt go so far. And it can't be because of her masterminding shit, we all know she's autistic and bad at PR.

>>4417721
Because all the evidence you've presented as "legitimate" has been dubious as fuck (spamming the same ESL lines in support) and/or actively taken down by Cover. That pic is still dubious but it's corroborated by the nip reddit post and matches everything else timeline-wise.
>Why don't you get some taiwanese translator that you believe in. Show some archives that the video translation was bad and was rrat pushing.
Or, how about this: you get a reliable independent translation provided by an NGO or otherwise unbiased translation agency and not a suspicious fucking ESL attempt backed by obvious spam support? How about that?
>I remember the only people who were pushing the video was a mistranslation were one of the artfiafag chinks brigading against coco doing damage control on threads and reddit.
That might've been the case before the falseflag reveal, but that threw everything into question. And it only made it more dubious when Cover actually took it down. I don't know why you think I should trust you over the actually available evidence.

>>4417827
>There's no evidence that artia purposefully harassed or incited harassment to hololive
This is the fucking problem. I've seen fuck-all to actually support this yet I still see people spamming it like it's perfectly rational knowledge for months and I find it very hard to believe that it's not part of the same persistent operation. The fucking chinks are STILL spamming Coco's chat even now, so why the fuck would they stop anything else?

>>4417827
So what I think happened was:
>taiwan yab and chinks riled up
>hold the line is found
>artia suspect
>false fed info by bili/CN management trying to chinksteal Cover (implying CN would keep their models)
>at the same time, chink falseflag campaign, redditors get suspicious
>overwatch video comes out and it makes people think artia did all the things listed in the falseflag campaign
>artia menhera pepe breakdown
>graduation

>>4417925
Seems plausible. Going by what's available it's hard to think of anything more concrete. As I mentioned before, I'd speculate that having openly been a fan of Coco before put her in an awkward position that led to the decision of watching Wolf Warrior to assuage a certain level of solidarity with her CN fans without actively getting involved in the affair, but that's entirely guesswork on my part.

>>4417955
That's what I've been thinking too. Doris also watched it, but she went full CCP support on roomate. Artia could have watched it to avoid association with Coco, as a dogwhistle, because there's clips around of her saying Coco and Haachama were her favorites.

There's also the possibility management forced her into the watchalong (happily joined by Doris) because they already knew of the falseflag campaign and they wanted to keep the CN talents as their own bilibili sponsored vtubers.

who?

>>4418088
Don't you mean 她是谁?, Zhang-kun?

>>4418028
The latter one lines up with the "keeping their models" thing artia and civia were told about.

You know how every foreign business in China has to have an associated local branch / business in order to operate? I think they tried to cut off the whole of HoloCN and keep it to themselves, that was the move. But Cover can cut access to the tech and assets, since they are serverside, so they lost.

>>4418141
Somehow the girls getting shafted by an underhanded and terribly miscalculated move by the staff doesn't surprise me at all.

>>4417925
Don't forget the Aqua song leak where artia together with civia tried to pin this as the greatest crime against humanity beacuse Aqua (supposedly) can no longer sing on lol worlds bilibili stream. This caused the probably the biggest increase in bug spam beacuse not only Aqua was chink favourite but mostly beacuse the dog whistling artia and civia did

>>4417526
>you have fuck all evidence supporting the idea that the Taiwanese are the ones presenting evidence against Artia instead of it being part of the chink falseflag
Does the words in that campaign count as evidence?

>她一直是西方人社区讨论的主要话题,最近关于HoloCN的问题让关于她的讨论更加活跃,然而4v组是反对他们的,我们可以借此煽动他们双方的不信任感。 这也是一个好时机,因为西方人开始相信4v叙事。

>而且,好消息是4v本身已经提供了叙述

Paste it into a translator yourself. 4v means Taiwan people btw. The narrative they are mentioning is the "Artia is a traitor" thing.
>It was taken down after being reported for SLANDER. What the fuck do you expect me to believe?
You should believe Artia, who literally said it was true, but not actually that bad.
https://files.catbox.moe/pl27zm.png
>You really expect me to believe that was some kind of earnest operation to reveal the truth and not a smear campaign?
For the last time, CHINESE PEOPLE LIKE ARTIA. SHE TOLD THEM TO HOLD THE LINE. THEY LIKE THAT. They were not the ones exposing her. They came in afterwards to create chaos to get revenge at Taiwanese people with a retarded plan that doesn't make sense because they live in a bubble and know nothing about the West or what we value and care about. But it didn't have any effect because everyone on 4chan already didn't like her at that point. The English hate mob against her had NOTHING to do with Chinese people. It was regular old 4chan users who read a translated roommate tweet and drew their own opinions. And before you ask about it, Artia also confirmed that was indeed her.
https://files.catbox.moe/tiooim.png

>>4392282
Commies always gonna lie. The CN incident is one of the best exposés on commie scum in recent memory.
Nothing personal against the CN girls, I don’t know what their opinions were, or even if they could safely contradict the Communist party.

>>4418388
why are you trying to convince one individual retard who isn't arguing in good faith? just ignore it

>>4418388
>4v means Taiwan people btw
I only have your word for that. And again, there's no mention of the video or infographic, just the hold the line shit, despite both being massively involved in the affair. Almost like they were constructed at the same time, or something.
>https://files.catbox.moe/pl27zm.png
I don't know what the fuck I'm looking at, but then I also don't know why the Taiwanese would try to encourage hatred of the CNs from the west with inflammatory spam instead of just keeping people informed. Unless they actually had evidence to suggest that Artia was directly involved in the harassment, which IIRC even that video didn't even support. I'd be inclined to believe that the Taiwanese were trying to keep people informed, but their methods were geared to incite harassment against Holos while other Holos were still being harassed by the chinks, so all that says to me is that it was entirely intended to add fuel to the fire against Hololive in general. If that wasn't the intention, their efforts were fucking retarded.
>For the last time, CHINESE PEOPLE LIKE ARTIA. SHE TOLD THEM TO HOLD THE LINE. THEY LIKE THAT.
This might astonish you, but there's fuckloads of Americans who are Coco antis. There's German-speaking Kiara antis. Almost every Aloe anti was Japanese. But you're trying to tell me that in a country of over a billion people, there aren't any Artia antis. Okay.
>But it didn't have any effect because everyone on 4chan already didn't like her at that point.
You don't represent people on 4chan, dumbass, plenty of people on /hlgg/ still liked her and saw the faggot falseflag campaign for what it was.
>It was regular old 4chan users who read a translated roommate tweet and drew their own opinions.
You mean retarded ESLs who couldn't string a coherent sentence together.
>https://files.catbox.moe/tiooim.png
So an admission that she didn't want any fighting in the first place, neat.
In conclusion, you've still done nothing to suggest that the ones claiming she stirred up or enabled the harassment were the Taiwanese. I think we're fucking done.

>>4418697
You're a faggot but you have a point. Stop trying to convince people who know you're either lying or manipulating information, for fuck's sake.

>>4418388
>https://files.catbox.moe/tiooim.png
This lines up with >>4417827

No because my favourite is the funniest and most charming, that's why they're my favourite.

>>4374847
>Cute and
>

>>4418859
>I don't know what the fuck I'm looking at
Then you're too stupid for this discussion to continue. Learn English.

>>4418859
The taiwanese bros have a different style of work (you can find them in holofightz threads, their imageboard has a fuck ccp coco banner)
They have been mostly doxxing and fucking with the spammers (signing them to Falun Gong and shit like that kek). If they had solid evidence on Artia, they would have done something similar.
The weird infopic + video doesnt follow the same style and lines up with the chink falseflag timing.

>>4418965
I mean I don't know what the fuck the corresponding pic is or what the context is, it's fucking worthless. Moron.

Guys, drop this fag thread and get in here before she dies from exhaustion.
>>4418906

>>4419010
>The weird infopic + video doesnt follow the same style and lines up with the chink falseflag timing.
So the video and infographic was part of the falseflag but the original tweet disclosure wasn't?

>>4419020
It is a screenshot of Artia admitting she participated in the harassment campaign mentioned in that translated video, which you claimed was a slanderous lie.

>>4419085
Yes , I remember that too. She even admit about wolf warrior by herself

>>4419085
No, you same-fagging schizo. Why is an ESL so desperate to make Artia look bad?

>>4419152
you're not even trying anymore

also
>name

>>4419078
Not the overwatch video, that one is legit. I mean the video explaining the infopic that was spammed the hell out back then. I think it was made by someone named as "my dear" or some shit like that.

>>4419152
>N-no
Listen here gookie duke, your schizoid conspiracy theory about how it was actually china doing a triple false flag has no evidence other than your misplaced conviction.

>>4374806
fuck off

>>4419180
>you're not even trying anymore
There's no need to. You can't comprehend the English in your posts. Answer the question.
>name
Left it on.
>>4419197
There's no conspiracy theory. Artia's Discord mod and Rosalyn sent people to harass Cover employees. The others weren't a part of it. End of story.

>>4419085
>IDK if this is considered attacking/nationalist
Usually harassment is pretty fucking unambiguous. Also I said the video was taken down by Cover for slander, which is true. Whether the exact content of the video was true doesn't mean at least that part of it wasn't horseshit, considering the fucking retarded comments from the uploader and supporting posters matched the Chink falseflag shit.

>>4419189
That's the one I was talking about, though. I think we've been talking about different videos, I don't even know if the other got taken down by Cover or not.

to **Censor** sent 7 months ago
I found at least 1 of Artia translator in antis discord. "Whitell#3459" is Artia keyperson and important hi-ranking translator and become active antis member! Whitell#3459 joins antis group and still spam Coco at least from mid October until today.

These clips are evidence (Whitell#3459 is Artia translator in part4)

https://youtu.be/klMKoGJJUeo
https://youtu.be/60ptlJDgBm8
https://youtu.be/Vp2WwyK1zsY
https://youtu.be/MDtmGw459iI

> after that , Whitell know about betrayal exist in antis discord.
> He told Artia discord mod everything and need their help.
> Those fxcker Artia discord mods agree to help Whitell( Andy).
> in this point , Artia discord mods become Andy and antis's accomplice. They protect and damage control in Reddit and 4Chan.
>in this point, Artia community can assume as Hololive antis.
Andy's founder come from Artia discord, Artia discord mod help antis and they may rescuit antis member from Artia discord as well.

> These discord was raided and destroyed by combine force of Redditor and Taiwanese bros before Coco 1M celebrete.

>>4419335
what the fuck is this english

>>4419370
ESL schizo thinks you can use "Guilt-by-association".

Everyone in /hlg/ hated that twitch chink whore, i'm glad she's gone forever now, hopefully she kills herself soon.

>>4419401
>Everyone in /hlg/ hated that twitch chink whore
Newfag, stop posting. We love our autistic nugget.

>>4419439
There's no "we" here. Just you. She can go to hell for all I care with the rest of suicidal China.

>>4419439
Lol, everytime you discord retards came to the thread everyone told you to fuck off.
Truth hurts i know, but it's time to accept nobody likes that disgusting little chinese goblin freak.

>>4419370
Sorry , I am ETL ( English Third language)

> We have evidence confess by Whitell himself about talking to Artia discord mod for seeking their help.

> It from 7 months , and you still think Artia or her mods don' t know any shit?

>>4419471
>There's no "we" here.
There is. You're not a part of it.
>>4419474
[Answer]
Now post again.

>>4419439
You mean shartiacord raiding with faggots like drum stupid enough to post screenshots and admit to it on public channels?

The best part about Artia isn't that she's genuinely a shitty person that got what she deserved, no, the best part is that everything bad that happened to her was her own fault.
It's like watching someone who just killed a puppy fall a set of stairs and break his neck, you WANT to feel bad for her at least a little bit since you're actually human and not chinese but instead you can't do anything but laugh and enjoy it.

>>4419539
That too, but in general, Artia was just another part of Hololive, like Risu.

>>4375152
I actually have some clips bookmarked to this day
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/641383827?t=03h36m30s

>>4419570
Even her own mod and translator use her as disposeable trash.

>>4419401
>>4419439
There was a decent following for Artia in /hlgg/ and a fuckload of retarded /vpol/tards in /hlg/. People posting revisionist history aren't going to be taken seriously and can fuck off.

>>4375152
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NLw-SDzfXM

>>4419508
We know about the translators and mods.
the 3 greentext points here are the only solid evidence >>4417827

Someone could also try asking the TW imageboard directly. Lets see what they have to say.

>>4419636
Most of the /pol/ nonsense came after the board split. Back before the drama started, you could just post Artia for fun and it'd come with no serious response.

>>4419832
Yeah except telling you to kill yourself and fuck off back to your discord

>>4419832
My point being that Artia and beleebposting was pretty popular in /hlgg/ originally and that's what made the chink falseflag spam so god damn obvious.

>>4419918
Beleebposting obviously wasn't the beginning of Artiaposting. I didn't check /hlgg/ at the time, so maybe it was more popular there, but it's not what I'm referring to.

>>4419832
there were antiartiafags back then, but it was a minority. Discord retardation came later

>>4375152
these are the ones I collected from threads back then

artia du yu rele
https://streamable.com/ejzxen

ur mom is gay
https://files.catbox.moe/0b53tr.mp4

artia gamer moment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFmafcoUPqI

artia goblin laugh
https://files.catbox.moe/phixnp.webm

artia vs dogs
https://streamable.com/hgyptw

fuck you losers
https://files.catbox.moe/xb7qnu.webm

ogey rrat
https://files.catbox.moe/dnmuf8.mp4

>>4420007
Obviously it wasn't the beginning but when the anti spam hit /hlgg/ it was really fucking obvious because the majority of /hlgg/ at the time were either indifferent to Artia or thought she was funny, so anyone claiming that "people already didn't like Artia" when it happened are full of shit.

>>4419687
Taiwanese bros can proof my evidence. They help Redditor raid Andy discord and no spamming in Coco chat that 1M day.

Whitell live in that discord and plan to spam Coco but they got raided by Taiwaneses and Redditor before he can spam any shit.

>>4417827
>>spammers covered by mods in artia discord (later on spammers got banned and mods changed)

For someone who claims to be innocent artia surely took her time to clean up discord. whitell wasn't even banned even after she graduated and by the looks of it he left by himself. Mods only got changed like month ago. It is like she didn't mind those people around her at all

>>4420347
Anon, you are the one person on this board who gives a shit what Whitell does.

>>4420400
Thank you for evidence.

>>4420400
>Mods only got changed like month ago. It is like she didn't mind those people around her at all
The reason they'd be troublesome to keep around disappeared when the branch got cut.

>>4420434
I am ex- Artiafag who got invitation discord from antis leader to antis discord
Other antis leader name is " Resistance"

You can guess the rest

>>4420635
Read the mood, schizo.

>>4420696
If we really want to talk about Artia involve about attacking Hololive or not?
I must bring her roommate irl in this matter.

Do Artiafag really want me to do that?

>>4420842
I've looked at all the information related. It's going to be the same as last time. You can't comprehend English, and think her Discord mod being a nationalist makes her guilty. It doesn't. Beginning-and-end, that's it.

>>4420400
>>4420552
That discord screenshot must be old, considering I just searched for it and he has changed his name (yes I'm inside because I joined to try to find the truth back then). Notice his name is in white, that means he has no roles. I dont know enough about discord to know if he left or was banned.

>mods
The old mod in question is Exeon, who was in control back then. These other ones, one is a hololive translator so I don't think she'd have him as a mod if she was that mad at hololive. There was also a board for other vtubers before, where people discussed holos freely, it was only recently deleted or hidden, I dont know, because Artia got butthurt at people chatting about other vtubers while she was streaming.

>>4421033
It is pandora box.

I feel some of sympathy to Artia as victim from Chink Schizo in her homeland and her discord mod use her as weapon and disposeable trash ( even Whitell said it)

I decide to stop my evidence point only to Whitell.

Between Artia and Carol it seems to me that discords really do cause nothing but trouble, too much fucking drama and lack of transparency. There was another minor fiasco over one involving the 4clover chuubas in /wvt/ several months back, it really doesn't seem worth using.

>>4421329
(by the way, you cant go too much back in time because they purged the whole discord after she started as a new vtuber)

>>4421334
@and point only to Whitell@

Attack Hololive from
- Angry : I can understand ( ex: Aquafag who can not see Aqua event stream)

- want to see each other again : believe it or not , many of chinks who attack Hololive at early state because " it is only way they can see Hololive again and protect their nationalist pride"


But Andy... and Wold warrior in NGA
They do it for " fun and money"
It is very difference reason

>>4421501
I know all those situations.
Also, before the known /wvt/ discord meltdown, there was another one that also lasted for days, caused by a deluded schizo thinking he was Koopa's bf and got screencapped, causing a massive shitfest.
-Artia's discord problem one has been discussed here (mods, spammers).
-/wvvt/ secret chuuba discord
-Carol's GIGAYAB pedogroomer frenchie + /pol/ discord schizo nuclearfest

LISTEN TO THE FUCKING SLUGMA
DISCORD HAS THAT NAME FOR A REASON
FUCK DISCORD

She literally started the Reddit and does twitch tier humor. She's funny? DYRBI

>>4421842
>/pol/ discord schizo nuclearfest
I missed that one

>>4385017
No it wasn't her discord mods you fucking retard it was a fucking translator, how do people keep getting this wrong its literally in the fucking title of the video that shows it

>>4374806
well, her cookware was certainly dirtier than the indie I like the best

>>4376187
I was *in* the Artia discord, at least the English language one that became Mirror Field for Hecatia. No such messages existed, and the only guy in there I know of who had Coco as his oshi conceded that no such thing existed either.

>>4375152
>>4420203
https://streamable.com/cec84z
https://streamable.com/jqjvk8
https://files.catbox.moe/wnon3z.webm
https://files.catbox.moe/gwh56k.mp4
https://streamable.com/i6f8rd
https://streamable.com/yfzryt
https://streamable.com/89hi68
https://streamable.com/aukjbt
https://streamable.com/zryh1p
https://streamable.com/ok3q5b
Also, bonus "people always hated Artia" link
>>/jp/thread/26654350#p26655422

>>4399376
She's from fucking Pomona California, do you honestly think they don't have Chinese nationalists over there who aren't super fond of the US?

>>4419335
Those people were *not* sanctioned by the English-speaking mods on Artia's discord. Exeon, for starters, despised the Chinese. Kaho's a snake so who knows what he truly thought beyond despising this board.