/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Well, the last thread died in the usual fashion. But, today is the /vt/ League 4 group stage draw! So, just think this thread will be the special edition of it.

Tune in at 10 AM GMT+7 (around an hour from now): https://isthisliv.com/vtleague/

What teams do (you) look forward to being with /warkop/ on the group stage?

What are the ideal teams for /warkop/ at the group stage? Remember, you can only pick one team from each pot (2, 3, and 4).

>>43770154
wtf literally me in the OP fr

>>43770626
As for me, I'm looking forward to...
>Pot 2: /lig/
>Pot 3: /wvt/ or /#/
>Pot 4: /aa+corpo/

Around 15 minutes remaining!

>>43770626
>/hfz/
>/2434/
>nasfaqg/

LIV! GET IN HERE: https://isthisliv.com/vtleague/

>>43770469
WE LIV BROS

We are in Group I, the last group! Let's see how it goes...

We face /vsj+/ again!

>>43776261
>/vsj+/
>again
Uhh....

/wvt/ will be in Group I!

>>43771558
Nice.

/aa+corpo/ is in Group I!

>>43771558
LET'S GOOOOO!

>>43778206
>>43778450
ogey so.. with that in mind, here's our schedule (i think)

/warkop/ VTL4 Matchdays in GMT+7
> vs /aa+corpo/ : 6th March 00.00 WIB
> vs /vsj+/ : 12th March 01.20 WIB
> vs /wvt/ : 18th March 04.20 WIB

It's in! What do you think?

>>43779918
we got this

>>43779495
The usual pattern for the Pot 1 team is vs. 3, then vs. 2, and vs. 4. So, it'll be...

> vs. /wvt/
> vs. /vsj+/
> vs. /aa+corpo/

>>43781671 oh ogey so I'll revise it to this, (@ indicates away match)
> vs /wvt/ : 6th March 00.00 WIB
> vs /vsj+/ : 12th March 01.20 WIB
> @ /aa+corpo/ : 18th March 04.20 WIB

The schedule is in!

kek, bery funny pic amarynn
https://twitter.com/Amarynn_/status/1629144878960766976?t=3bQnmVGuvuZ2Loh4wEE-vA&s=19

>>43787730
My favorite genre of VTuber post is "VTuber mentions old persona of themselves".

>>43787730

>>43784945
Is it in WIB or PST/CST time?

>>43793402
That's UTC, WIB should be in >>43783895

>>43793402
It's in UTC. But, there's a bit of correction for >>43783895. Here's the schedule in WIB (UTC+7):

/warkop/ vs. /wvt/
>Monday, 6th March 2023, 00:00 WIB

/warkop/ vs. /vsj+/
>Sunday, 12nd March 2023, 01:20 WIB

/aa+corpo/ vs. /warkop/
>Saturday, 18th March 2023, 03:20 WIB

Oh, I forget to tell (you) something about the current /vt/ League 4 format.

Currently, there are 36 teams in /vt/ League 4. It will be hard to decide who will advance to Round of 16 (Ro16) with that many teams, unlike the 32-teams format that's more straightforward.

So, to decide that, this format will be used:

>9 first-ranked teams will advance to the Ro16
>5 top second-ranked teams will be advanced to the Ro16
>4 bottom second-ranked teams will compete in a playoff round with 2 winners advancing to the Ro16

So, /vt/ League 4 will be more brutal for second-ranked teams as it'll no longer guarantee a Ro16 spot. More teams will not advance to the Ro16 (20 out of 36 teams - ~55.56%)

>>43774537

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywuR7wmNf_0
one of biitertaste child is singing rn

>>43790145
same

https://youtu.be/EDHv8S_gNKs
Kobo really do be experimenting with her game choice rn, epep yesterday and now angry birds

>>43796319
Damn, how many are bitter's daughters out there?

>>43799154
all had the same cold-stone expression

very good yet boring at the same time

>>43799154
5. Silvia, Deidey, Gabriel Abyssia, Astelica Kasdea, and Serena Celsius (she's a Vtweeter for now).

>>43787730
Never forget.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2B0aJw9fBc

i want this but female

https://twitter.com/MythiaVTuber/status/1629430189490081793
This trend been helping us a lot in getting to know the taste of our oshis, take a look into Miti for example and see if it matches yours

https://youtu.be/b1JQF1lCO6k
>metanoia ogey'd collab with a /pol/chuuba
well that's interesting...

>>43802996
i hate this gay ass soo bad

>>43800272
Certified classic

>>43793462
>>43794650
Oh I see. Thanks, anons

>>43801825
Good judgement ngl.
Zen indeed has the best programs, but he's not that interesting. He's most suitable as the leader of a creative team, not as the entertainer himself. It's not an insult, he's the best in ID vtubing when it comes to ideas.
Best singing indeed, sad that both of them are not really that active to maximize their potential.
I can comment more but I'm too lazy, good judgement nevertheless.
Waiting for the others to make the same thing.

>>43801825
>>43803801
I think I've seen another chuuba posting this kind of thing. Let's dump those to /here/.

kekw

>>43802996
>>43803063
Speaking about gays... Seems like Silvervale's tranny saga isn't gonna end. Here's when one of our CF seller comments - >>43802745
https://twitter.com/vcky1128/status/1629346625809420289

Also, why have I got so many (you) with my kot memes (picrel) lmao - >>43803634

>>43802996
I hate this faggot like you wouldn't believe.
I don't mind chuuba who lean to /pol/ because there's a market for that, but this guy is just the epitome of a typical westernized liberal outdonesian twitter-dweller. they're so fucking annoying and I say this as progressive myself.

>>43802996
>>43804266
qrd on this guy?

>>43799212
i find his art is good, but it gets boring because the dude can only draw one face and almost his daughters don't have much variation.
>>43801825
who's the ''want to promote the most" chuuba? never see him.
>>43804353
just /pol/ outdonesian chuuba, his content is mostly talk about twitter discourse. also he's hobby nge-gas, i never forget when he try to shit on kobo about her tweet finding clipping your own video is become less funny. he think kobo mocking small chuuba while kobo just talk about her own experience kekw.
>>43804266
2bh i would be interested with /pol/chuuba (esp if they focused on indonesian politics) if only they're not getting their content around fucking twitter discourse or just a bunch of a snowflake liberal which base their political view around american political lens.
>>43803801
that's what i feel about Zen too. i think dude has great idea but he simply dont have ability to execute it as entertainer. someone really need to hire him as corpo chuuba manager or producer.

Also, what do you guys want for holoID4? i hope we can get some hags who's godly at zatsu in indonesian.

>>43803839
Found one for Cae
https://twitter.com/CaerulaAki/status/1628708739607072768

>>43805420
its ave / dragon from yume reality, now she is in akavirtual

>>43801825
now that i think about it, nobody from holo has collabed with andy before

>>43805420
>hag
>godly at zatsu

yeah Mine

>>43802996
they are friends irl i guess?

Janu have different circle than karissa + Janu can sing quite well. but she is into that tank game so she never had a bunch of female viewers

>>43805462
Let's see...
>both listed Kawi as "Watch The Most"
>both listed Zen as "Best Program"
>both listed Ave as "Want To Promote The Most"
Also, I don't know the VTuber name in Cae's "Most Waifu Material"

>>43805667
>Also, I don't know the VTuber name in Cae's "Most Waifu Material"
https://www.youtube.com/c/SolaceAmerta
We've talked bout her before, I think she's that indie with so much gachis she became trakteer's top donated chuuba last year

>>43801481
>50 waiting room
that's not a bad number for local male indie!
I don't watch his stream, but what's his average CCV?
his VOD view isn't bad too

Amogus but Indosiar are going liv!

Bapak - Airi : tajir melintir punya perusahaan besar, sakit2an otw meninggal
Istri Muda - Amarynn : tidak punya anak dengan si bapak, tapi punya hubungan khusus dengan anak pertama dan pengen nikah anjrit
Anak Pertama - Devi : anak yang suka memberontak, tidak tertarik mengelola perusahaan, sudah lama kabur tapi kembali karena tau bapaknya sakit2an. punya 1 anak adopsi.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w25A3877rr0
Adopsian anak pertama - Cewe / 20th - Pirrou : Akrab dengan anak keempat karena sering merasa out of place https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1p_2hBMKVM
Anak kedua - Cewe / 38 th - Ave : Seorang wanita penurut yang tidak memiliki pilihan sejak kecil akibat menerima ekspektasi orang tua karena kakaknya tidak bisa diandalkan. Menikah karena dijodohkan dengan pria yang lebih muda 10 tahun yang merupakan anak dari partner bisnis sang ayah. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=So8WW4T2yWU
Suami Anak Kedua - Selia : dijodohkan dengan anak kedua, dari biasa aja jadi suka beneran.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2xIfh1CXLs
Anak ketiga - Alenka - Cewe / 27th
Seorang wanita karir yang emosional. Pemarah sejak kecil karena kecewa tidak jadi anak bungsu. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JsAcafaOXg
Anak keempat - Naya
Cowo / 20th
Pria muda yang timid dan sering kebingungan. Akrab dengan adopsian anak pertama https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hs4UcKLkIUg
Butler - Valita : orang kepercayaan si bapak, sudah lama melayani dan membantu keperluan rumah tangga.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94l51KXPe_s
Chef - Akemi : jago menggunakan pisau dan jago masak uhuy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cub2paOKwgE

>>43805903
>359 viewers
I do really have to keep eye with this guy.

>>43807420
>359 view
JESAS THATS BIG NUMBER.
I might have to put these guys on my radar.
this guy seems hit an untapped audience in ID market.
good evidence there's market for male chuuba aimed for a female audience on the ID market.

>>43801481
>>43807420
>>43807784
He just hit 400 ccv
jesas
is harris currently the most viewed ID male chuuba rn beside bobon?
these numbers for indie male chuuba are so insane.
even smol corpo ID male chuuba would kill for this number

>>43807784
Now it's around 400 viewers.
Just rename this stream as "VTuber laki ini mau MEREBUT KAMU dari ANDI ADINATA"
The live chat is horny AF.

>>43807883
>even smol corpo ID male chuuba would kill for this number
Even local female chuuba would kill for this number. This is Chloe or Sena's tier number. The dude even mogged most of the ex-IDs.

>>43807903
just another proof that pandering to female audience as ID male chuuba is more promising.
There's already many evidence that male ID chuuba who pander to female audience is more thriving (Andi being the 1st living evidence), why most ID male chuuba don't realize this and there's people who still want brotuber market?

To any ID male chuuba who visit /here/ or corpo staff who lurk /here/ go fucking pander to women if you want to be successful.

>>43807784
>>43807903
>>43807883
>ID BFE era is upon us
Damn I don't know what to do with this information but I hope it won't attract worse type of viewers like in the case of EN

>>43808100
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha
That's wishful thinking, anon.

But let's be real here. Harris only just started a few months ago. Yet, look at those numbers. This is why I said a bunch of threads ago that Harris is a very promising ID VTuber right now. There's a lack of male ID VTuber who panders to the same audience as Harris, afaik. It's very possible that his growth will continue upward, sooner or later. Yes, he's going to be the Indonesian Shoto. Will you like it? I don't know. Let's just watch and see.

>>43808081
>>43808100
I'll be jealous of local women if he rarely said GSH or GWS while pandering to his viewers' lmao

>>43808081
brotuber market is a meme.
StarsEN who intended for brotuber audience still has a LOT of female fans and the one who mostly gift membership/throwing money to them are the female fans.
Like not saying you have to pander to women fully, it is just your average male weebs might want to watch some male chuuba but they will NOT throw money on anime boy. that's the difference.
>>43808100
rabid female fans do exist in indo (look at kpop fangirl) but i dont think they're as schizo like chink/en fangirl.
Now we just need a male zoey or ID Vox to see how it goes.

>>43808100
This tho, as long as the fanbase are berbudiman it's all good for me,

>>43808321
I laughed when I see his fans' messages on Trakteer: https://trakteer.id/harriscaine
I'm gonna get forced to take GWS pills if I as males send similar halu message to a local female chuuba...

>>43808318
>ID Vox
I can see this dude will get a lot of antis from kikebook/twitter and /here/ kekw.
but I'm curious how he will fare in the ID market.
Snowdrop gives proof there's demand & potential for sange market but it mainly for male audience. We don't have proof for female audience in sange market. Do our local women is into horny content? and is there a local male who has the ball and gall to pull that kind of content?

>>43808509
''There's no market for unicorn/gachikoi in ID market"

also scrolling the message, man he really struck gold with yumejo.

>>43808630
It's amusing seeing his trakteer message kek.
now I wonder how wild some yumejo is if there's local male zoey/vox/shoto

>>43808509
Holy fuck that's 11/12 with what I've seen from Voxfags

Females tends to be more thirsty than males.
As males, we have bigger sex drive but we know hundreds of ways to pleasure ourselves. But females? Only a minority (especially in Indonesia) knows how to masturbate, even if they do they don't do it as often as males. So they're always in a state of borderline horny.

>>43808509
>all the messages are his yume RPing as his mommy or his gf and being openly horny to him

My premature observation of Harris Caine:

>his Tiktok's performance is strong. Check at https://www.tiktok.com/@harriscaine, his views numbers are constantly at 5 digits, even 6 digits sometimes
>his Twitch performance is meh. Check at https://twitchtracker.com/harriscaine.. His peak numbers are just around 50 viewers. Maybe because of Twitch debuff?
>I can't see his numbers on Playboard yet, because his subscribers are short of 23,000. But, if you sort the videos based on "Popularity", he's strong at Roleplay and sometimes Gaming

wow, it seems he also did fujobait with 1k subs male chuuba.

>>43807883
Final numbers.
https://twitter.com/HarrisCainee/status/1629485844276060162

>>43808315
They will be even more crazy for him if he said that (erotically, of course).

>>43808928
He doesn't link his Twitch in his YouTube and Twitter. I'm assuming that Twitch is more of his sub channel where the more loyal viewers tune in to watch him play games.
>>43809014
This guy is going to reach constant 500 CCV in 2 months, I'm sure of it.

this one makes me laugh so hard, kek.
Judging from his trakteer it seems he truly pander to his fangirls with how many shameless thirsty trakteer & seems he encourages it.
Anyway, might keep an eye on him. He seems promising.

G'night /warkop/

With this schedule, let's see if he can keep this up mentally, or he'll go menhera. The thing is he rarely streamed for more than 2 hours, at least on Twitch and Youtube. I don't know about Tiktok Live, but the duration should be the same.
Also, I wish some local chuubas like Chloe or Sena can stream more frequently... Yeah, I know there are still plenty of them, but still...

>>43809185
Good night!

>>43808509
>I'm gonna get forced to take GWS pills if I as males send similar halu message to a local female chuuba
fucking this....why our female chuuba is so adamant giving fanservice or play along with our halu message? is it hard to just say ''yes anon i love you too'' or giving smooch just once??
Reading his trakteer makes me envy for his female fans. It seems the dude plays along with their halu fantasy...

>>43809297
My guess is no one wants to take the risk because no one knows how rabid Indonesian fans are when it comes to GFE/BFE.
Andi was the OG BFE but he just play it cool and not pushing further.

If this Harris can reap all the success of being a full fledged BFE and no big drama happened to him, expect a lot of new BFE and GFE ID vtubers to sprout. Semi GFE like Iofi could even take it further if she knows thet there's no big consequences.

>>43809438
To be fair, I can see that becoming a GFE chuuba isn't just for everyone. Take a look at Komandan: https://youtu.be/ZrC827e1pM4
Also, I think some of the local chuubas becoming VTuber to express themselves and then hope enough people will like her personality, like Cupang.
I don't know if there are local chuubas out there who give the entertainment at least in a transactional way (i.e. I'll give you a bunch of fanservice in exchange for your money and loyalty), like Japanese chuubas.

I guess our young men aren't as starved romantically as young men in Western or Japan.

Ah, in case (you) forget, the hololive ID4 audition will close soon.
https://twitter.com/hololive_Id/status/1620648140427902978

>>43810038
Yeah.. It really could be too much for chuubas who don't have high tolerance and for such comments, I found this clip and I could understand why Ela is such a GWS-GSHchuuba that she is, the comments can be over her tolerance at times and that's what most femchuubas here thinks when reading such halu https://youtu.be/oQJk5crM2o8

>>43812755
I can imagine she'll create so much antis the moment she start collab with males.

my indihomo got rangebanned damnit

bule bump

>>43821602
>Pawapua
Did Green Ui drew her?
She look as if she's been chloroformed amd ripe for some seggs

Bump .

>>43814170
iirc someone from starsEN came to Kaela's livechat and it was not received well by her fanbase.
Just because Kobo and Zeta also the rest of HoloID seems to be open to stars then those guys proceeded to Sok Kenal Sok Deket with Kaela.
Damn I hate StarsEN, not because I'm a unicorn, but I just hate how the interaction is not mutual, Because when StarsID come, there's no way HoloEN girls will shill them just like the ID girls shills starsEN.

Pagi, /warkop/!

>>43834707
I mean, early homobeggars hailed HoloID 1st Gen as the Hololive's "taboo breaker" by collabing with the Holostars at the early time. Just look at Risu's Twitter header. She never changes it.

By the way, I lurked on VPU and it seems like the members there have fun with Zeta x Axel by making a bunch of fan arts lmao.

>>43829980
Yes, it's her drawing. She drew that to illustrate how she sleeps when they had a sleepover
https://twitter.com/ChloePawapua/status/1627026722024718340
And is confirmed by Kawi herself
https://twitter.com/KariSharl/status/1627039124829147137
>>43814170
I think if it was a proper and professional collab, like that one time Reine with keyboard reviewer, I think no one will bat an eye but if it's unprompted and intrusive like >>43834707 then yes, that would happen. I mean when Ela put ENstar's videos on her birthday, no one made a fuss because it was proper
>>43834707
That Hakkas or whoever right? Yeah I mean he was retarded to suddenly appear in her chat and then try to act all chummy as if he knows what's up (sok asik)

>>43837328
Pagi~

>>43839336
>no one made a fuss
Yeah same when Ela replying to Vesper on Twitter back then on July, always being used by baiters lemao

>>43842829
Wait did someone except baiters really make a fuss about it somewhere else?

>>43834707
>Damn I hate StarsEN, not because I'm a unicorn, but I just hate how the interaction is not mutual.
>Just because Kobo and Zeta also the rest of HoloID seems to be open to stars then those guys proceeded to Sok Kenal Sok Deket with Kaela.
same brother, I legit hate starsEN because they think they can act all chummy with ID girls just because ID girls tolerate them.
I don't even hate holostars as whole, heck i love starsJP interaction with holoID because it's more 'organic' and there’s actual chemistry. JP males also are more polite and not SKSD with most ID girls.
and it's clear they just using ID girls to leech off their number (esp blue faggot).
when i watch starsEN collab with ID girls, god i'm so pisssed. the boys legit can just throw jokes seenaknya when it's clear ID girls feels uncomfortable with it (Fagni bentak Ollie at 1st apex collab & that faggot joking about hey moona to Moona, despite Moona hate it when people jokes about that)
>Because when StarsID come, there's no way HoloEN girls will shill them just like the ID girls shills starsEN.
fucking this, and the only one who will shill starsID the most is HoloID and StarsJP. I know people /here/ has low opinion on local male weebs but our average males are much more jaim and polite toward foreign girl (or foreigner in general), they're much more self-aware. Holy shit, not all indo male behave like bocil kikebook-dweller or sex predator. Just look at most big ID male vtuber & they’re more chill/well-behave than your average big EN male vtuber who's fucking menhera lmao.

StarsEN is just bullshit so much for ''we don't interact with girls unless they interact with us first" when they come to the chat first. even JP stars isn't like that to most ID girls. western males are mistake.

>>43846088
>Just look at most big ID male vtuber & they’re more chill/well-behave than your average big EN male vtuber who's fucking menhera lmao.
KEK, now that you talk about it our male chuuba so far is more mentally-adjusted and not menhera compared to EN male chuuba.
hell even our female chuuba who is borderline menhera still pretty tame compared to the EN/JP female chuuba menheraness.

>>43810038
I think the concept of BFE/GFE pandering still foreign concept to our culture, most average people here think BFE/GFE is cringey and weird. and as for
>I don't know if there are local chuubas out there who give the entertainment at least in a transactional way (i.e. I'll give you a bunch of fanservice in exchange for your money and loyalty)
My 2cent is most of our local chuuba still believe people give them money through their personality alone, sure there's fanservicey chuuba like snowdrop girl but they do it because they want to and even then they still expect their audience to know it just RP or simple fanservice not going further like actual BFE/GFE pandering.
only Zoey so far who walk into that path.

>>43847138
Oh, I'm pretty much aware that GFE/BFE is still relatively foreign to the average Indonesian. Also, when you mention that people only throw the money to local VTubers due to their personality, I suspect it'll become evidence of my point that people become VTubers to express themselves. I'm a bit sad when I realized VTubers who do BFE/GFE hard are usually a bit special (read: is menhera/ODGJ).

Now, imagine if Kanna do GFE to pay her bills...

>>43847138
I just remember Rania Chiwawa... Man, imagine Rania but ID4...

>>43846088
>and it's clear they just using ID girls to leech off their number (esp blue faggot).
The thing is, I heard the rrat that Kobokerz, being unruly as usual, actually came to Regus' stream and repeatedly said: "Hey, where's Kobo?" to the point he had to remind them to live on stream. I guess there's a price to leech from ID girls, especially from Kobo and its chaotic fanbase. Unironically, it's gonna be hard to leech from Kobo if Kobokerz keeps this rule-breaking attitude.

Oh, I got this from VPU (formerly PV), specifically from Abi. What do /warkop/ think? Or, there's another problem besides from the list?

>>43854460
Huh, they rebranded the group? Any reason for that?

https://twitter.com/CaerulaAki/status/1629687612134006784

>>43855609

>>43854857
No idea. The group name just changed when I went there through the same link.

>>43852965
>rrat

>>43809438
Not just the fans, have you seen check-marked Indo fleshtubers' messages on Zeta's live chat?
>Hi sayang
>Kok ngacangin aku sih?
Some of them might be doing that as a joke, but it's still very fucking creepy especially when they themselves are content creators.

>>43855998
who the fuck is this?
i saw this face a lot here.

>>43857605
It's Cupang a.k.a. Airi Cordelia...
https://twitter.com/AiriCordelia/status/1573625083226361856

>>43857490
>male chuuba can handle hundreds of thirsty messages and just wave them off as roleplay entertainment
>female chuuba can't even IRB some random thirsty messages on live chat
I think my opinion of male chuubas improved a bit...

Speaking about numbers, here are the numbers from Tencha Darjeeling a.k.a. Matcha Mei debut stream.

>>43843417
Nah, AFAIK only baiters and it didn't go anywhere else

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A202s_DOgUA&ab_channel=UtadaZoeyCh.%E6%AD%8C%E7%94%B0%E3%81%9E%E3%81%8A%E3%81%84
Zoey's monetization celebration

>>43861145
Get in, free membership!

>>43851528
>Ranran
Let her go, anon

>>43863487
NOOO I CAN STILL HEAR HER SWEET VOICE, I CAN'T LET GO OF THE MEMORY WHEN SHE GAVE ME MY GOOD NIGHT KISS, SHE NEVER TELL ME TO GWS OR GSH OR WHATEVER IT IS, SHE ALWAYS LOOKED AT ME WITH SWEET AND CARING EYES UNLIKE THOSE LOCAL WHORES, I CAN STILL HEAR HER BELL AAKSJAKSJAKSJASKASJAKAAKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>43859825
Oh shit, I missed her stream. Any highlights?

Niji EN Tier vchubaaa

https://youtu.be/6dqFrEBQOJs?t=7270

>>43834707
>>43846088
>I just hate how the interaction is not mutual
>they think they can act all chummy with ID girls just because ID girls tolerate them.
>Because when StarsID come, there's no way HoloEN girls will shill them just like the ID girls shills starsEN.
>the boys legit can just throw jokes seenaknya when it's clear ID girls feels uncomfortable with it
Seiring these comments make me happy that i have people on the same boat as me. Thank you for putting these words together I'm very ESL i can't put my feelings into coherent sentences, I'm not a unicorn, i watch malechuubas, but StarsEN and holoID interactions irked me.
Seeing the dawn of BFE > brotuber era also make me happy
I have no reason to avatarfagging anymore especially after Cover IPO announcement, keep up the good work

>>43864837
kobo but older (legal)

>>43854460
Didn't we already solve that question (yes, it was basically one problem they identified there)?
>>43864375
She's a Hoshiyomi iirc so there's a chance she will try ID4's audition
>>43864837
One thing about Kay is that her self-confidence in her singing ability is really low (might be for gathering pity point and to get affirmation or genuine idk). Then again I think she's funny as a zoomer and has a potential despite she's bordering 1view

>>43834707
>>43846088
>>43865160
>HoloID girls becoming comfort women for Holostars (especially StarsEN) isn't just a meme anymore
You'll still get called "parasocial freaks" and "incel" if you try to point it out on ordinary SNS like Twitter, I guess. Hope M-chan at the very least tells those Homostars to keep it professional when interacting with HoloID girls.

>>43854460
> 1. Penonton Vtuber itu-itu saja

no, its expanding. cant you see? look at harris, kobo, miti, mika, all of them are example of reaching outside the ID wibu circle. Check my infographics. ID has grown from 10M subs in to 20M in Dec 2022.

>2. Semakin sulit mencapai angka CCV 100+

its always been sulit. now there are more non-holo/maha5/niji vtuber with more 100+ ccv than in 2021

3. Bahkan dibeberapa ...

ini jadinya kalau biasa nonton holo kemudian pindah nonton indie 1-2view. its always been like that. Always. Not everyone should have 100s of CCV. its not a problem. there is always a vtuber with a small circle who plays around with 4-5 viewers.

A true problem is when now is worse than before. in ID, that isnt the case.
perhaps in MY or PH i dunno. ID vtuber is expanding, the viewer, the artist, the clipper, the industry as whole is expanding.

>>43866017
And then there's Kobo who use Stars as her comfort men.

>>43866017
>Comfort women
It's more like StarsEN wants to become their orbiter than the other way arounf

>>43866114
>Penonton vtuber itu itu saja
Yeah, it's definitely expanding. Just look at how often someones share a random vtuber that nobody /here/ know. Like remember that chuuba who plays a lot of GTA with really high numbers for indie? It seems it's gotten stagnated because most of us only watch the same type of vtubers.

>>43864375
https://twitter.com/cianguin/status/1629050901204697090?s=46&t=sz41dxFlzSJzLFQYlFML0A
she'll be back soon

>>43867396
why did she graduate in the 1st place? i thought she was going to holo or other vtuber agency

>>43867396
Qrd on her? I saw her name got thrown around for a while, and I have a hunch that she's an oldfag Utaite

>>43867994
>>/vt/thread/S41615504#p41620212

>>43854460
>Penonton VTuber itu-itu saja
When you only see PV users who are either chronic Holofags or in just for the drama, of course it feels "itu-itu saja" for you. Go to Twitter, read the replies to a bunch of indies or non-Holo corpo, then you will see that the community is actually rather diverse and growing.
>reaching 100+ CCV is hard
Always has been. I mean, the only ID VTuber with >500 CCV are HoloIDs, Mika, and Miti.
>more "sesama VTuber" viewers than actual fans
It's not exactly a problem, per-se. I mean, it's not good for growth, but is every VTuber out there concerned on growth? Nope. A lot of people became VTuber to seek friends and colleagues. For these VTubers, getting big is a bonus point, not a must. And as >>43866114 said, Holofags tend to experience culture shock when they start watching anyone outside Hololive. Kek.

>>4386882
soft mita ass, i would assume miti has more firm ass

>>43866114
what do you expect from a former haters (its still is now) normies grup, ofc they dont know shit other than holoid (their main target). not to mention they change their name recently because epel lurks there when some retard make a post that shit on her. now some vtuber is lurking that place so they had to change the name.
also, the one accused for the post that shitting epel is abi (using alt account), then drama happens between pv(now vp) and sgv, kinda ironic when a group that mainly shits on vtubers has its own drama, lmao

why are we discussing kikebook post? Did you guys run out of topics?

>>43869785
Every day is a slow day for /warkop/, I guess.

spoonfeed me about Zeta x Axel

is it 100% schizo or not ? i want it ended with zeta cucking axel with other tempus

>>43869785
The same reason why there's alot of thread with twitter screencap on the catalog
>>43870133
Yes it is a fanfic, now go back

>>43870290
pls share any fanart of it

>>43868653
So she's Reine's rm old friend. The question is, which one? and has she ever doing chuuba gigs before using this name? spoonfeed me plz

>>43864837
Not a fan of her model. The proportion is weird and not used to seeing piercing on the face.

>>43869091
>Assuming Miti has more firm ass
What's your reason?

>>43847138
>I think the concept of BFE/GFE pandering still foreign concept to our culture
Well that's just an assumption, in reality we will never know unless someone try it. In a more civilized way, not the disgusting way that snowdrop girls do, they're borderline whoring themselves like western vtubers.
If you see daily twitter Indonesia trending page, at least one hashtag is related to Kpop and you'll always find a thirsty female within the first 3 popular tweets.

>>43854460
I don't know where they posted that, but tell them:
The problem is not in the market, the problem is themselves.
They are the ones who should expand their horizon. This thread is way better than their group because there are always some posts shilling smaller and previously unknown vtubers.

They're trying to use scientific method of problem identification, but you will never make a good paper if your problem identification is wrong in the first place. Problem identification should be based on data, not personal assumption or anecdote.
don't be like those uneducated people who rejected election surveys because it doesn't match the choice of the people around them, and then they screams election cheating once it's proven that the survey is right. That kind of uneducated and uncivilized attitude comes from the wrong problem identification. It's not the survey that's wrong (the solid ones at least), it's them that should get out of their shell

sundul gan

>anon share interesting topic for civil discussions that not 2view gossip or hornyposting
>other anon reply with interesting insight and legit opinions
>/warkop/ actually have legit and civil quality discussion
>and then there's always one anon who complain "ugh this is from kikebook", "holoid bad let's discuss about unknown 2view with their unnecessary drama", "this is too heavy get out this /pol/ shit and let's be horny instead"
why there is always one anon who doesn't like when warkop have quality discussion

>>43876859
Sometimes I just feel like indulging in shitty discussions when I have nothing to do (this is Sunday, anyway). Not a dramafag, but I find Facebookfags amusing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpOR1gFrBQ4
Sena's (late) birthday celebration stream

>>43873520
I think why GFE isn't that prominent in Indonesia is that we tend to fantasize about it less and still consider it as a joke.

>>43873520
I can't say for GFE, but for BFE, do we have a lot of people who can do westernized voice with budget to commission fujobait L2Ds? Back when luxiem was fresh from the oven, this is what some femviewers told me about why they don't go local, now Harris showed us there's potential from our malechuubas to get those type of fans but the question now is that can we replicate him to get those femviewers to watch local malechuubas?

So... For the upcoming February 2023 tally, I'll count some local VTubers as supplementary to the kaigai global tally from /#/.

Some notes:
>x = VTubers that'll be counted (must streams at least 5 times in February 2023)
>exc. = exempted from count rules because said VTubers have considerable numbers
>some VTubers that have high numbers like Silvia or Harris can't be counted because Playboard only counts YT channel that has at least 23,000 subscribers or 10,000,000 cumulative views

>>43879216
You could check Harris' Twitter for the CCV tally, he always posts his numbers after he streamed.

>>43879043
That'll imply local male viewers are less schizo than their female counterparts since the males always shoved GWS pills to their throats every time they go halu.

>>43877312
>leave her for a while, around 300 viewers
>come back
>now she do open cam with 620 viewers
Sasuga Groomed Loli...

>>43854460
>Itu itu saja
Because target market it's not that varied in Indonesia. Indonesian weebs tend to people from middle to upper class group and not varied that much. Meanwhile overseas they're more varied. For example there's muscle girl Vtubers for those who loves fit and/or tomboy. Robot Vtuber for those who love to fuck their motorcycle. Furry Vtuber for.... sigh, furries.
>Hard to gain 100+ CCV
This is not Vtuber only problem, this is all streamer problems. There's thousands and thousands of streamers looking for audience, but many of them have 0 views. In the end it's a matter of the survival of the most entertaining people.
>Vtuber nepotism
So what? This is like typical Indonesian comedians and their cliche.

https://twitter.com/Frederett_/status/1629806686356799488
Fure made a thread on why local VTubers should consider shorts as the content besides live-streaming.
Is she also browsing /warkop/?

>>43880228
I wonder if such strategies work for official channels as well, I'm normally not into shorts but I'm obsessed with MAHA5 animated shorts, the problem is that I'm not sure if that could raise their exposure, at least for YT shorts that is, dunno for tiktok

>>43880132
>that first topic
Anon, i don't think you understand what target market means... Also
>Indo weebs is not too varied
Vtuber's target audience is not only weeb. Like Amarynn who get more viewers from minecraft crowd or like that GTA chuuba.

>>43869233
it's actually worse, they talk shit on epel and then tag her profile. little did they know epel definitely come when someone mention her profile. dumbfags

https://twitter.com/eikoyukashi/status/1629797413690159104?t=NRUBPE65hYFpFKgSNE_cGg&s=19

Eiko got terminated by YT again
:(

>>43881533
There are two possibilities:
>targeted mass report campaign
>ban evasion

>>43881461
>Talk shit on Epel
How can a living being with conscience even have a thought to dl that?
>>43881533
>Again
Qrd? Well Ela's membership unarchived karaoke also got terminated last friday night

>>43881640
>Spoiler
Yeah, I definitely mad when that happening Pajeetube HATE, but I have a little giggle while reading the reason "spam, deceptives practices, and scam", as Kaeluarga always doing some running gag "skemmembership" lemao

>>43881533 (me)
https://twitter.com/eikoyukashi/status/1629844085208158210

It's back, but YT is putting her on watch

>>43882226
Kek yeah I also lol'd so hard at that and to think it happened when she didn't put any scam title for the first time really made me lemap'd

good night /warkop/
besok senin

>>43885511

>>43881640
>How can a living being with conscience even have a thought to dl that?
Welcome to kikebook

>>43854460
>Penonton Vtuber itu-itu saja
maybe because most of em are from the same circle, get the fuck out, go mingle with others, ask a collab with normies, ask a collab with fleshtuber, normies gamers, or even a beauty vlogger

>>43885511

don't die

Bump.

Bump.

>>43886687
>Beauty vlogger
>Collabing with anime
3DPD with 2DAB?
Hell no

>>43897257
Who's this chuuba?

>>43902547
Alenka

Pagi, /warkop/!

>>43907050
Pagi...

>>43804209
seems like he deleted his account when all of this suicide story turns out to be fake

>>43846088
>even JP stars isn't like that to most ID girls.
honestly this, most starsJP boys is very respectful to ID girls and not SKSD/sok-sok'an asik unlike starsEN males did.
>Just look at most big ID male vtuber & they’re more chill/well-behave than your average big EN male vtuber who's fucking menhera lmao.
I agree with this kek, dont understand why people who dread about starsID existence think it will be the end of all while there's so many ID male vtuber and most of them is well-adjusted, hell i think there's not much drama coming from local male chuuba. if starsID get created & the boys turn out to be fine, i dont want to see any faggot here shittalk ID males ever again.
>>43852965
>leech and dont mind being used as boytoys for Kobo in a month
>shocked to see people spamming Kobo in his chat
lol faggot deserve it.
>>43866017
rather than comfort women it's more that they're '''forced'''' to being with ID girls since they're the only hologirls they can collab with because most EN girls want nothing to do with them kekw. honestly it's so pathetic seeing starsEN needing ID & EN girls to lift them up. at least starsJP still have pride want to stand by their own
[10:03 PM]
>>43854460
>Identifikasi Masalah
1. ''itu-itu aja" like what? ID vtuber viewer is bigger than ever, esp if u compare it pre holoID or holoID1, esp there's interest for viewer to watch & branch out to local corpo chuuba or local indie.
2. do this guy srsly think getting 4-5 view is.... fucking easy? even holoID has a bunch 3 view and they're still considered succesful by general streamer standard holy shit. also Vtuber still pretty niche outside of JP there's that.
3.can't comment much on this one.
also agree with this anon >>43874542
there's no problem in the market itself, holoID proof there's market for vtuber on Indonesia. even Kobo still has nice growth and good CCV, if you aren't too numberroted.
on top there's a bunch of Indie/local corpo with 3 view. the recent example Harris, a new indie getting 400 ccv is pretty good evidence that there's still market for vtuber on indonesia (esp male chuuba) as long the chuuba themselves know what they're doing with their content and persona.
the problem is most of our local chuuba esp the 2view or sub 3view one, is pretty boring & often they just imitate what's popular but without offering something new (in this case most local chuuba try hard to copy holoID or popular indie but thats it they dont try to twist it to be something new or different) and also a case of them dont promote themselves enough/unlucky with algorithm.
ngl i hate people who try to numberfagging but dont know what the fuck they're numberfagging about, i say this as numberfag myself. our vtuber market is still growing & there's a demand for it. our industry is still young and there's still many uncharted territory ahead, as long there's plenty of holoID girls can consistently reach 4 view & some of indie/local corpo consistently reach 3 view, i wont call ID market is dead.

>>43846088 (You)
>even JP stars isn't like that to most ID girls.
honestly this, most starsJP boys is very respectful to ID girls and not SKSD/sok-sok'an asik unlike starsEN males did.
>Just look at most big ID male vtuber & they’re more chill/well-behave than your average big EN male vtuber who's fucking menhera lmao.
I agree with this kek, dont understand why people who dread about starsID existence think it will be the end of all while there's so many ID male vtuber and most of them is well-adjusted, hell i think there's not much drama coming from local male chuuba. if starsID get created & the boys turn out to be fine, i dont want to see any faggot here shittalk ID males ever again.
>>43852965
>leech and dont mind being used as boytoys for Kobo in a month
>shocked to see people spamming Kobo in his chat
lol faggot deserve it.
>>43866017
rather than comfort women it's more that they're '''forced'''' to being with ID girls since they're the only hologirls they can collab with because most EN girls want nothing to do with them kekw. honestly it's so pathetic seeing starsEN needing ID & EN girls to lift them up. at least starsJP still have pride want to stand by their own
>>43854460
>Identifikasi Masalah
1. ''itu-itu aja" like what? ID vtuber viewer is bigger than ever, esp if u compare it pre holoID or holoID1, esp there's interest for viewer to watch & branch out to local corpo chuuba or local indie.
2. do this guy srsly think getting 4-5 view is.... fucking easy? even holoID has a bunch 3 view and they're still considered succesful by general streamer standard holy shit. also Vtuber still pretty niche outside of JP there's that.
3.can't comment much on this one.
also agree with this anon >>43874542
there's no problem in the market itself, holoID proof there's market for vtuber on Indonesia. even Kobo still has nice growth and good CCV, if you aren't too numberroted.
on top there's a bunch of Indie/local corpo with 3 view. the recent example Harris, a new indie getting 400 ccv is pretty good evidence that there's still market for vtuber on indonesia (esp male chuuba) as long the chuuba themselves know what they're doing with their content and persona.
the problem is most of our local chuuba esp the 2view or sub 3view one, is pretty boring & often they just imitate what's popular but without offering something new (in this case most local chuuba try hard to copy holoID or popular indie but thats it they dont try to twist it to be something new or different) and also a case of them dont promote themselves enough/unlucky with algorithm.
ngl i hate people who try to numberfagging but dont know what the fuck they're numberfagging about, i say this as numberfag myself. our vtuber market is still growing & there's a demand for it. our industry is still young and there's still many uncharted territory ahead, as long there's plenty of holoID girls can consistently reach 4 view & some of indie/local corpo consistently reach 3 view, i wont call ID market is dead.

Discovering more and more of corpo vtubers' alts or PL kinda gives me some kind of a... guilty pleasure? added responsibility?

Also kinda explains how some of them used to collab with each other in the past, but we don't see (or never gonna see, even) them after they decided to step in into vtubing, just because they (or at least some of them) got into that strict corpo vtuber life with loads of bureaucracies before you can even start collabing.

also it gives me a lead on who to follow after they decided to end their vtubing life (or at least, their **current** vtuber life).

And, The top 10 corpos might even be more interconnected than how most people thought it'd be. It's like we can build a "clique map" out of it

>>43912781
>Interconnected to each other
This especially true for oldfags but I don't know about corpos that come later especially those who come after late 2021

added 4 more vtuber group to vtuber dot asia

there are now 60 vtuber group in ID

VTuber Con when ??

>>43912781
with 1 person connecting them all:

E
V
E
L
Y
N

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I356TLOXobQ&ab_channel=UtadaZoeyCh.%E6%AD%8C%E7%94%B0%E3%81%9E%E3%81%8A%E3%81%84
Utada Zoey 14 PM JST

siang warkop

>>43916888
Her? Why her?

>>43916664
Who's gonna pay

>>43921168
why not ?

>>43879784
I think I'll count it as an honorary rising star with the explanation that he mogs several 100-ish CCV local chuubas. His numbers posts are scattered so it's hard to see the big picture of his CCV numbers.

>>43921252
me

>>43804209
The drama is already over. Internet attention span is winning again. The troons can keep yelling but people already moved on.

>>43918723
LIVE

Moona:
>"Aku nggak mau GFE, pengennya jadi temen"
There you go people, Moona is not for GFE

>>43872948
idol ass is different that highschool ass

>>43928154
never interested in her voice (unless she sings)

moona not built for gfe, only for titjob

Risu suddenly in Japan...what a G

>>43928634
Risu, now that's a surprise. Reine in Japan? Eh, it's tuesday already?

>>43928215
Correct. Miti's ass is for lovey-dovey caressing, Mita's ass is for brutal [insert a lengthy description of sex involving Mita's ass here].

>>43929731
i-i thought its the way around??

>>43929828
That's boring, anon. Miti deserves more love. Mita, meanwhile, needs more correction because she rarely appears.

>>43929997
>he wants to brutalize a high school girl ass

Alia si kambing is nearing the 2views border which is weird since she always release many meme videos and shorts each month. chloe is also dropped from 600+ to 300+ ccv

ITS OVER

>>43931127
In the end some people just simply got bored.
I mean look at Bao, she used to be big (still big now but not like her old peak). They need to do something special to make them popular again.

>>43932733
Weird to see Bao getting referenced here, speaking of twitch chuubas, I've been dying to ask this, why the fuck shylily became the no1 twitch chuuba in ID? I think she's way more relevant here than anyone else that people cosplay her and I've seen some WA yabs with her sticker on their evidence chats. This is very different to /vt/ where her discussion are somewhat limited even within /lig/

>>43933139
Most likely because of her interactions with kobo

>>43918723
>>43925247
Why are you keep shilling her? She's not what she used to be and no one is watching him here tho

>>43933448
zoey is the only vtuber who legitely needs to be corrected in anyway possible

>>43928154
Thoss who stay with her since the beginning know about this already. She's more like retarded/autistic sister/daughter experience than GFE
>>43933139
I think it's because her interaction with Kobo + her stream hours are consistently around late night-past midnight
>WA yab with Lily's sticker on the chat
Wtf?

>>43934439
*cums*

>>43933733
Yeah, she needs mass corrected

>>43933733
Deisex too

>>43809297
Karna ga mau suaminya atau pacarnya cemburu ama viewers, manuk akal yakan

>>43809297
Karissa exist anon. there are a reason why she is on top 3 in trakteer 2022. join her membership, be a good karisterz, and u will get your smoochies + your name written in stream

>>43876449
bolanya besi atuh

>>43885511
Bangsat

>>43936111
NTA, but I've already been psyop'd that being clingy to the streamers, in general, is cringe. You can thank those GWS and GSH jokes, some HoloID girls that sometimes yelled at audiences even though for a reason, "go outside and touch grass" and local audiences in general that despise halu content in general (even VPU and SLV folks hate it).

Also, deep down inside of me, I know that even if I become a hardcore simp, this is just a bandaid, not a cure. I know that what I need in general to erase my loneliness is an ordinary social relationship. Still, I'm a bit pissed at the way streamers and her audiences told people to go touch the grass. I don't want to be lectured by entertainers (to whom I come to her be entertained) after I've been lectured by my parents (and my extended family), my lecturers, and bureaucrats like police and *ahem* tax collectors.

As long as our local VTubers don't commit suicide related to their entertainment work, they'll be okay. Every job has its risks besides benefits.

Thank you for coming to my TED talk.

>>43854460
>vod
this can be true, i tried to compare kobo freefire vod with moona mario party vod, both are good streams with a lot of clipable moments, with similar average ccv and stream lengths, both also hit yt trending page, but somehow kobo have 50% more vod views than moona. so in conclusion, vod market is real

>>43935651
Cae, too. Look at this: >>43855609
I think she's reading the GFE market discussion /here/. No, I haven't taken my meds for several days.

>>43937508
you poor soul. Just do several simping anon. Go for their membership stream. Being loyal doesnt reward you anything in this rabbit hole.

>>43933172
She's already big in ID before Kobo. A big reason why the whole interaction happens was because both have a big ID audience and they ask their opinions about each other on their respective chat.

>>43933139
>Indonesians weebs are horny
>She has a good model
>Luck (probably 90% of the reason)
The reason why the clip with Kobo is big was probably because they already share quite similar fanbase (in ID).

>>43809297
Buy a voicepack anon, some of them are spicy.

>>43937635
And that's not even peak Kobo. Her VOD numbers back in June/July was crazy sehe even limit her stream to just 2 hours max to accommodate VOD viewers.

>>43938453
i wonder can she get bigger. 3 M Subs, 10k each streams and so on. Or kobo has penetrated far enough, and it should be the new id holo who penetrate ID juicy-ass untapped normies market?

>>43939338
she lost her momentum but its not impossible to be viral again, we can use marine for example.

>>43937891
No need for meds, she's actually /here/.

Enough about Kobo or Indie, why don't you guys watch Niji ex ID? I mean look at this thread

>>43925792

A literal single digit views wtf

>>43940879
i mean it's still <30 minutes, it won't be that bad >30 minutes right?

>>43940879
She's not streaming. More like a running ad or something. Still, what's she doing?

>>43938121
Since when exactly womp womp took over ID?

>>43938264
>The reason why the clip with Kobo is big was probably because they already share quite similar fanbase (in ID)
If true that'd be quite an unexpected fan crossover for me

>>43940879
I feel bad for them. You can see the old ID management quite passionate with their job.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UTwzLCQ4g0
When Miyu left, we know it's all over

>>43939338
>3M subs
Possible but she already lost the hype and it's hard to get new momentum as big as that. Definitely need more than 1 year i think.
>10k each streams
That was her number in June/July last year (around 12k peak average, 10k true average). Even a zatsu at noon on a weekday will reach 10k peak even tho the retention would be bad (well, it's a zatsu). Also all her streams would get into gaming trend, including zatsu kek (except for that 1 week when she always streams twice a day because you can only have 1 video on trending).

>Can she get back to that number?
Definitely yes, with and without ID4.
>Will she tho?
Probably not. She's not really that interested in playing games, and the list of games that are both good for numbers and that she's interested in is getting really thin now. She already switched to some random handcam stuff (which definitely more to her taste), but the yab probably means she needs to slow it down for weeks if not months (hopefully not a full ban). The last thing is that she wants to. focus on music this year, so that'll make her stream less too.

>>43809297
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Rsqty2DR7NQ
i heard you want smooches
most gfe chuubas do this

>>43941211
Probably grinding for the stream quota?

>>43942492
She still excel in many things and even her recent Angry Bird stream was clip worthy (for completely different reason though)
Her recent cover is already on top of Hololive Cover top 30 chart for 3 weeks, dethroning Suisei's ever strong "Phony" cover.
Those 10 to 12k views are typical debut views. People watch her but not giving her money. Now she has loyal followers who still watch her and giving her money constantly. And that's good.

>>43936111

>>43943062
Post the numbers.

>>43943102
Hana 100 Million, Karissa around 50 million

>>43941211
stream quota + milking her merchandise

imagine thinking "hey before i graduate, you should buy merch, look at this ads"

>>43943322
Epel?

>>43943322
Damn 100M? How does Hana do that?

>>43943929

there is this one gachikoi, probably her BF

>>43942910
>Clip
This is actually the biggest reclined tho. Her clips numbers used to be insane, but it's so hard for her ID clip to get high number now. It's still consistent and she has by far the most amount of dedicated clippers but i think her EN clips are actually bigger now.
>Overdose and music
Yeah i already said that she's focusing on music now and so far it's doing great, let's see how well Oh Asmara will perform.
>Those 10 to 12k views are typical debut views.
Those are not her debut number anon... Her debut month average is around 3-5k. She can only get 6-7k on buff game (Outlast). She inclines after debut until her peak at June/July where literally every single stream would get 10k (and 12 or 14k for gaming stream i forgot). Her buff number is around 18k++.
>People watch her but not giving her money.
No, She got a lot of SB donations at that time, which has lower cut (5% vs 30% Superchat). She definitely has more gachi now tho, but
>Now she has loyal followers who still watch her and giving her money constantly.
She also lost some. I don't think i ever saw Koko Jon anymore, Hiiragi san also doesn't watch her as often. Even Corneus too. It's mostly just Ritem and Afdhal.

>>43937929
The thing is, I already have a membership with Deisex. I'm well aware she's just an ordinary Sumatran zoomer. So, I'll just roll along with Friend Experience, as Cae puts in.

No, I'm not the usual Deisex poster.

Also,
>Being loyal doesnt reward you anything in this rabbit hole
>mfw

>>43944087
ask deidey to have a "special" membership stream.

>>43944205
what do you mean?

>>43870338
all i want is a dojin of zeta having relationship with Axel, then she cheats with other tempus. imagine her smug face videocalling axel, while riding that big fella tempus member.

Zeta if you see this pls type "i love cats" on your twitter

>>43944027
>Afdhal
I'm not the only one that think his "friend" is just him samefagging right? It's so obvious that it's just him trying to make him look like a god kek.

>>43944509
Stop it, Zeta...
Why are you smiling like that?

>>43944509
To be fair, VPU dwellers already did Axel x Zeta fan art just to spite Zecretaries there. If I'm an anti, I'll spam those fan art under their fan art tags on Twitter, pretending to be shippers, so they'll start becoming uncomfortable. Oh, and drag Nodoka for maximum effect.

>>43943929
Donothon or media share stream repeatedly

>>43944205
Nah, she'll probably be cringing even thinking about that. That horny soundpost doesn't help, either. This picture is actually her reaction to that, searching for the nearest psychologist for herself after witnessing Big Deisex Energy.

>>43944873
Post links!

>>43944963

>>43945037
I thought it's something spicy like this anon described >>43944509

>>43945095
Zecretaries can report that to Zucc and he'll ban VPU if it's too spicy lmao.

>>43945037
HOT

imagine axel seeing Zeta pregnant with other tempus

>>43945172
>VPU
>Zucc
What is VPU? Is that a Kekbook group?
>>43945176
Otome Dori ending for ZetAxel.

>>43944027
>No, She got a lot of SB donations at that time
Yea but she said it herself that even those superchats accumulated to small number and still can't beat EN and JP average.
>She also lost some
That one isn't her fault. People come and goes.

>>43944547
>like a god
explain

>>43944509
I only feeling sexual attraction toward a very small number of vtubers. I felt Zeta is more like a cute lil sister rather than someone I want to fuck.

>>43946554
NBR Incest

>>43945365
It is, they were PV but changed their names.

>>43946603
>PV
Sorry, anon but I don't know what you mean.
I stopped using Kekbook long time ago.

>>43946757
I thought you know. It stands for Penyefong VTuber and the name is very self-explanatory. Just think of it as /vt/ but not in /vt/ and everyone is shitposting in Indonesian. And with non-VTuber fans joining just for the drama.

>>43946390
>she said it herself
link?
>accumalated to small number
number is relative. if that number is small, then her sc rn is even smaller.
>can't beat EN and JP average
Anon, why are you comparing it to them? Only Kaela can compete with them and she's still only #21. Also Kobo still beats some of them without counting SB.

>>43946524
i'm too lazy to search for any example. just look at all sb from "his friend". literally all complimenting him or making him like a harem king or something. also all "his friend" use sb while he use sc.

>>43944027
>Her clips numbers used to be insane, but it's so hard for her ID clip to get high number now
If you want to see Kobo's ID clips numbers, you should've checked her tiktok hashtag, her free fire stream generated quite a lot of clips

>>43948644
He actually forgot to change his name several times, so he look like he's praising himself. Kobo probably know this because she can see his email, but she pretend not to know because he still gives a lot of money.

>>43948715
Oh yeah i do check TikTok once in a while just to see the numbers. The freefire stream definitely brings great numbers but before that she's in a slump (for her standard) for quite a long time considering how much of a monster she was on Tiktok (her hashtag already passed Gura lmao, actual Gura killer*).

>>43944027
Corneus is a super old aquacrew. Pretty sure he hangs around crew fancord more.

>>43948976
Kek, i knew it. I'm glad i'm not the only one since, like you said, Kobo always plays along with him.
>she can see his email
RUMAO, i forgot about this. I can't imagine her reaction off stream kek. Maybe he's realized this now since i don't think i ever see "his friend" anymore.

>>43945095

most are painfully mid, desu

it's all just about some B-tier fanfic using a coom game to make something like this

>>43952129
>coom game
Koikatsu?

>>43952129
Do you have Deisex' model for Koikatsu?

>>43952233

yeah, and apparently they just ripped it off from someone else.

the actual maker is there on twitter, shamelessly posting it with their hashtag LMAO. he's terminally addicted to ZetAxel.

https://twitter.com/MythiaVTuber/status/1630116262272458753?t=akaLyMj0XYBmfo-IQduPKg&s=19
QRD on this guy?

>>43952584
She's posting TikTok videos of him on her Twitter. Nothing to worry about.

>>43940879
damn....
i do feel sorry for them ex-nijiid
but they're not entertain me enough to make me stay

>>43944087
>she's just an ordinary Sumatran sooner
Wait, that sounds like Deisex is a wild animal or something.

>>43952286
Do she really have one? God that would be a gamechanger if it really exist out there

>>43954497
She needs to be tamed, in the bed if you catch my drift.

>>43955738
That's what I want to know.
>>43955781
She needs some correction.

>>43942253
Found someone who claimed himself as close to their management said this
>>43955423
>They're just overly optimistic on the market cap of a glorified flesh streamer with anime avatar.
I wonder your thoughts on this, obviously as we've seen since we kickstarted /warkop/, IDchuubas are growing and flourishing, but are they not growing enough to keep investors like niji interested in us? This is mind you, the same corpo that has their stocks dropped because investors were expecting more from EN despite niji claiming that they already over the bar in grow rates

>>43957983

>>43954497
>>43955738
>>43955781
>>43955840

>>43882629
Good thing it's back, I saw some saying she should move to twitch but ngl the prospect of streaming using Indonesian at twitch is just not that good imo

Sundul

Do you guys think Koboi Junior/SMASH type of MaleID group would work for breaking through ID market further into normies area?

Hello, is there anyone here who watchs
Fiona Clearesta and could give me a summary about her?
I just watched her phony cover https://youtu.be/XL66ouUCbag and liked a lot her voice. How is she and the kind of content she usually does?

>>43934439
Oh no she's hot

>>43957983
To be honest them being overoptimistic is not far what I expect from millenial generation kind of management. Not just Indonesia but all over the world. This is because millenials born and grew up in the era where economic prosperity is on its peak (80s and first half of the 90s) so they have this wide eyed naivety for economic growth.
Also Vtuber was also on their peak in the 2020-2021 where people stay at home and watch more streams so they thought the line will keep inclining. You know what happened with that kind of unrealistic expectation, things will crash and burn like 2008 Housing Crisis.

>>43942253
>when Miyu left
I remember reading /here/ some threads ago (early /warkop/ days maybe?) Telling that Miyu was the hardest to manage.
Idk if that actually meant:

A. she was requesting so much stuff to the management at that time, and management be like "sorry, no can do".
B. It's the management's requests that didn't get through to her (or, putting it bluntly, Miyu didn't behave like how the management wanted)

but looking at how Esmilia happened, also how Riku was going for IPO at that time, I'm suspecting it's point B

Pagi, /warkop/

>>43974560
What really management wanted then?

We did it awanchama, /warkop/ is alive!!
anyway, can't wait for this week. we might see the miracle that will bring Kobo's back and away from bluefaggot with her potentially playing a certain wizard game:)

>>43976661
pagi!!

>>43977757
Fuck the cause. Based blue brat

>>43977757
Bluemega is gonna pissed. But I guess Kiara visit really put her in perspective that blueman is not a goodman

>>43977021
This conjecture is kinda weak, because from the looks of her genmates, all of them are enjoying high degree of freedom (Riksa basically streams whatever game he wants, not opening membership; Rai rarely streams to the point of being compared with Gilzaren; and Cia who is supposed to be artist of the gen seldom gives drawing/art tutorial stream nowadays.)

If managements are really expecting something from them, surely there will be like a shift in their streaming MOs, but I don't think that was such the case

>>43979399
I kneel chimkin

>>43980664
Yeah, I don't see why
>>43974560
Point B is even an option. Niji is well known to be quite loose in how they wrangle their talents. They let them doing thirsty streams and other borderline yabe streams.
I think Miyu is like Fubuki. If Fubuki bailed on Hololive it means the agency is hopeless. If Miyu bailed on Nijisanji we know Niji is fucked.
Also blaming it on Miyu is pretty much victim blaming.

>>43964521
Twitch is more suitable for EN speaking ID vtubers. But pandering to EN also comes with a price, like how they should be in line with the western agenda like the recent Hogwarts problem. But the EN money is sweet.

>>43770154
Wow good job it reached the limit.
Maybe the ugly pakde in the OP has something to do with it. Next time maybe OP should upload more ugly bastards instead of cute girls.

>>43982719
are you into ugly bastards?