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>> No.44406446
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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>> No.44406489

>>44391682
No, the infamous GTA stream was May of 2019

>> No.44406500

>>44406395
am I the only one who remembers that Aki's 3d was supposed to take place the day before Ina had her showcase? It was assumed back then that they pushed Ina forward to make room for her and that's why Gura ended up on a thursday because they ran out of weekends

>> No.44406533
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44406533

>>44406421
>>44402524
After watching the live i now know why, im sorry. I forgot how happy a great 3D live can make the heart feel....

>> No.44406534

>>44406281
Would not surprise me since the guy looks like he's ready to clock out of nijisanji
He's one of the lucky ones since he can survive without niji due to his gf. The other like pomu or selen are not talented or entertaining enough to survive on their own.

>> No.44406560

GRIM

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44406567

Shion soul what do?

>> No.44406607

>>44406489
Miko is the actual protagonist of Hololive along with Suisei and Sora

>> No.44406628
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>Gura isn't selling good merch cause muh acrylics aren't sold out in 15 hours
How does one sever their dependence on reading /#/, I'm genuinely tired of reading the retarded shit you people type here

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* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *
>138,977: Miko (Hololive)
>57,045: Hololive English (Hololive)
>38,302: Marine (Hololive)
>37,216: Hayato (Nijisanji)
>31,064: Pekora (Hololive)
>26,117: Nerumero (Indie)
>25,403: Shion (Hololive)
>24,339: Kanata (Hololive)
>23,697: Salome (Nijisanji)
>21,339: Subaru (Hololive)
>21,216: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>19,853: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>17,975: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>17,524: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>17,374: AZKi (Hololive)
>17,286: Ange (Nijisanji)
>17,123: Towa (Hololive)
>16,981: Met (VSPO)
>14,612: Koyori (Hololive)
>13,094: Noel (Hololive)
>13,010: Met (VSPO)
>11,551: Watame (Hololive)
>11,301: Botan (Hololive)
>11,069: Koyori (Hololive)
>10,091: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>10,053: Lamy (Hololive)

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>>44406340
JP does it
Where is the so called Gura's jp fandom? (picrel)

>> No.44406664

>>44406567
ghost rape

>> No.44406673

What's the spergout about the top sellers about? Are those worldwide rankings? If those are merely American rankings, then it might be safe to assume that at least half of US sales comes from HoloEN merch.

>> No.44406675

Gura's 3D was on a thursday to downplay the strength of the CGDCT faction.
>See she only got a little higher than Ina who did a cover with a male. Don't worry about the date and time.
Unfortunately she overshot their estimation cause they thought she'd be closer to Mori at that day.

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>>44406643
>MARCH 2023 GOLDS
1) Nerumero (Indie) - 32,543 - Genshin gacha
2) Mio (Hololive) - 42,700 - Mahjong tournament
3) Gura (Hololive) - 67,405 - 3D showcase
4) Toya (Nijisanji) - 68,467 - Oekaki no Mori tournament
5) Miko (Hololive) - 138,977 - 3D birthday live

>PER COMPANY
3x: Hololive
1x: Indie, Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
1x: Gura, Miko, Mio, Nerumero, Toya

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
47x: Hololive
14x: Nijisanji
2x: Indie
1x: VSPO

>PER STREAMER
20x: Pekora
5x: Marine
4x: Toya
3x: Mio
2x: Kuzuha, Miko, Nerumero, Nijisanji, Okayu, Subaru, Towa
1x: Choco, Gaku, Gura, Himawari, Hinano, Hololive, Ina, Kiara, Koyori, Lamy, Mito, Mori, Nozomi, Polka, Roco, Suisei, Watame, Yashiro

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*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

>3/5 DAILY TALLY
57,045: Hololive English (Hololive)
7,787: Uki (Nijisanji)
7,420: Elira (Nijisanji)
6,695: IRyS (Hololive)
6,316: Enna (Nijisanji)
5,473: Vesper (Holostars)


>EN GOLDS FOR MARCH 2023
1) Mori (Hololive) - 18,696 - Monopoly (w/ Amelia, Magni, Vesper)
2) Vox (Nijisanji) - 8,614 - Return Stream
3) Gura (Hololive) - 67,405 - 3D Showcase
4) Amelia (Hololive) - 39,353 - 3D Showcase
5) Hololive English (Hololive) - 57,045 - Myth 3D Collab

>PER COMPANY
4x: Hololive
1x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
1x: Mori, Vox, Gura, Amelia, Hololive English

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
9p: Vox
6p: Fauna
5p: Mori, Gura, Amelia, Hololive English
3p: Mysta, Uki
1p: Shu, Pippa, Elira

>> No.44406737

>>44406673
No, some nigga was shitposting that Gura super strong pull can’t sell some acrylic stands fast enough. We just gave him a good beating is all

>> No.44406739

>>44406628
Watch Nijisanji will "save" you

>> No.44406740

>>44405605
Consider the following -
> mysta only pays 21k in tax, suggesting low income
> many JP livers have talked about company rates for merch being high (because talents themselves don't have much input on generic merch, and maybe 50% with voice packs)
> Enna stated that she only has around 70 monetized streams because she "swears too much"
She's probably not making that much, and the stuff that she makes is probably also getting fleeced by Anycolor

>> No.44406754

>>44406533
last choreo with perfect lenght skirt and shroedingers spats feels so good.

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>>44406661
>JP does it
I mean of course they do seeing as how they dont have to pay for the retarded shipping fee
Anon why would anyone outside jp buy niji teir merch while paying for the ridiculous shipping fee when they can buy better merch?

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>>44406725
>2023 EN GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
43x: Hololive
19x: Nijisanji
2x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
8x: Mori
7x: Amelia
5x: Mumei, Baelz
4x: Ina, IRyS
3x: Mysta, Fauna, Vox, Gura
2x: Selen, Pomu, Kronii
1x: Ike, Flayon, Alban, Elira, Luxiem, Finana, Millie, Luca, Regis, Enna, Rosemi, Kiara, Hololive English

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
49p: Mumei
48p: Mori, Amelia
47p: Fauna
46p: Ina
40p: Baelz
38p: IRyS
35p: Vox
27p: Mysta
18p: Kiara
17p: Kronii
16p: Luca
15p: Gura
13p: Selen
11p: Uki
10p: Pomu
9p: Millie, Enna, Ike
8p: Finana
7p: Regis
6p: Elira
5p: Flayon, Alban, Luxiem, Rosemi, Hololive English
4p: Vesper
3p: Sonny, Hakka, Magni
1p: Meloco, Shinri, Gavis, Axel, Maria, Shu, Pippa

>> No.44406805

>>44406673
Somehow, anons are in denial that Gura merch sells because acrylics.

>> No.44406861

Is it just me or has there been an increase in 2view seethe the past couple of days? I keep seeing a bunch of "big corpo bad please clap" tier posts that I haven't seen since the rimjob anon made the rounds

>> No.44406878

>>44406500
what was the reason for Aki's delay anyway?
aren't 3d lives all pre-recorded?
like Miko's 3d today was already done 3 months ago

>> No.44406888

Are the shipping prices still turbofucked?

>> No.44406890

>>44406737
>>44406805
starting to feel that guy is a nijifag since he strangely has a very strong stance on acrylics being top tier merch

>> No.44406905

>>44406766
>Gura does not have JP fandom
Thank You

>> No.44406914

Why does HoloEN sell so many acrylics if the sales are meh anyway?
Or have they just turned meh due to spam?

>> No.44406917

>>44406878
Aki is known for going all out for her 3D live

>> No.44406926

>>44406878
they never said so your guess is as good as mine. Most likely there was some issue with the footage they took and they had to throw some of it out

>> No.44406929

Bae is an untalented whore and thinking about her cheating her way to 700k before Fauna makes me fucking seethe

>> No.44406932

>>44406754
fuck some Honeyworks songs are so fucking kino when done at the right time/setting... why dont they hire whoever does their songs to make Hololive originals...........

>> No.44406952

>>44406905
anon you can see from her chatcloud that she does

>> No.44406955

>>44406905
The amount of data you're pulling from some acrylic sales is amazing, anon!

>> No.44406965

>>44406789
Mori or whoever from EN, produce Migo-style 3D concert next time. It seems that EN has a potential not to flatline to the end, especially Gura. And sing purely Eigo songs at least during the second half.
Too bad Gura is not cut out to become an idol based on work ethic, at least based on what can be observed on the outside.

>> No.44406966

>>44406914
Acrylics cost peanuts to make for cover, it's free money.

>> No.44406967

>>44406929
Bae is much more talented than Fauna

>> No.44406969

>>44406905
>Gura JP fans have better taste than your average nijifag

>> No.44406984

>>44406932
Good musicians usually have bigger stuffs to work on

>> No.44406990

>>44406914
spam, the poses arent even great or unique either.

>> No.44407009

>>44406965
>And sing purely Eigo songs at least during the second half.
this will never happen as long as Cover is autistic about playing by the rules. because english song perms are a pain to get legitimately thanks to sony fuckery in the 70s

>> No.44407022

>>44406914
Acrylics is basically free money anon.
Its the reason why its Anycolors bread and butter since its so cheap to make

>> No.44407039

>>44406905
>whole Council myth Jap Arc had stories about how much mindshare Gura has in Japan

>> No.44407046

>>44406952
>>44406955
>>44406969
Didn't you fags were boasting how she sold out mf lamps last thread anons?

>> No.44407049

>>44406861
Myth's been doing their big 3D debuts so they need to seethe to even hope to stand out.

They need to downplay Hololive and Niji's events 'cause it shows how small of a fish they really are.

>> No.44407061

>>44406905
It's kind of pathetic how you're just digging for any win possible. Why are Gura antis like this?

>> No.44407094

>>44406967
Name a single thing Bae is better than Fauna in other than singing, dancing, and speaking Japanese. Literally nothing.

>> No.44407095

>>44406965
>sing purely eigo songs
would literally be impossible to pull off due to english song copyright

>> No.44407113

>>44406914
I suspect it's due to the bigger Cover cut. Rather, I'd be shocked if the talents got more than a paltry sum from them. They're also relatively cheap merch to make in large quantities, all of the tooling for them is pretty much universal so they're a lot cheaper to make than dedicated merch, so they end up being good money earners for Cover at a low investment.

>> No.44407118

>>44406929
What has Fauna done to deserve getting 700k before Bae? Don't get me wrong, I like Fauna, but she's been coasting along for months now.

>> No.44407119

>>44407046
what does that have to do with "Gura has no Jp fans"

>> No.44407121

>>44406932
Cause they wanted to go with deco 27 instead lol

>> No.44407137

>>44407046
Anon. For fuck's sake I have to consider
>Daki
>Bag
>All the other myth 3d merch
Over some FUCKING SHITTY STANDS. This shit is literally the lowest-tier of merch, and I'm not in the market to spend money solely for the sake of spending it.

>> No.44407142

>>44407046
lamps are a little bit higher on the merch scale than acrylic stands anon
the only thing lower than acrylics are your basic bitch keychains aka nijichains

>> No.44407140

How is there at least 2 catalog thread inflating Miko birthday number to shitpost against Myth? One of them pulled 170k out of his ass with an image that show 138k

>> No.44407176

>>44407094
Damn nigga what more do you want

>> No.44407199

>>44407121
fucking hell lmao i would be made if it wasnt true

>> No.44407208

>>44407094
Being an annoying whore

>> No.44407209

>>44407137
Please be kind to the nijifag anon, he literally cant imagine someone getting anything other than an acrylic stand which is why he is dying on that hill

>> No.44407228

Bae vs Fauna samefagging is my favorite timeloop.

>> No.44407233

>>44407094
Have you stopped to consider that maybe the reason Bae beat Fauna is BECAUSE she's better at those things? Maybe Faufau should do her Idol reps instead of trying to grind out Minecraft Zatsus.

>> No.44407244

>>44407199
Deco probably does it for cheap

>> No.44407261

>>44407094
leeching on IRyS and bringing her down with her

>> No.44407271 [DELETED] 

>>44407118
It's not about whether she deserves it or not. I just don't like Bae because she's a chink.

>> No.44407302

>>44407039
>Council
>One who could not give two shits about Hololive
>One who is still training to control her sperg attitude about the homos
>One who is an actual airhead
>One who is an actual Holofag...but couldn't give two shits about Japan
Chumpedos relying on council of all people to defend shark cunny "honor" is just funny.

>> No.44407312

>>44407140
because the nijimeido doesn't care about number bait posts when it's about holos

>> No.44407334

>>44407046
Is your room just completely full of acrylic stands and keychains?

>> No.44407335

>>44407228
Nah I kinda miss the nijien is bleeding viewers timeloop because niji fans wont watch them due to not having the blue dorrito timeloop
was the most retarded and funny shit

>> No.44407337

>>44407009
Cover has their own Eigo songs. There are lots of Eigo songs composed in Japan. Lastly, they can start asking for perms now for 2024. There are no excuses not to sing Eigo songs.

>> No.44407354

>>44407142
You forgot about badge and sticker

>> No.44407370

>>44407302
nigger why are you so insistent on proving that Gura has no Japanese fanbase when that's plainly not true?

>> No.44407376

>>44407119
The lamps were only for westoids
Manufacterd by a westoid brand
These stand are by a jp brand.

>> No.44407378

>>44407302
Ina also mentioned it and she is 2nd in CCV in EN so eat shit faggot.

>> No.44407391

>>44407354
i dont even consider those merch just freebies due to how shitty they are

>> No.44407402

So why people giving the Gura schizo so many yous? It's probably just some seething 2view having an "it should have been me" moment.

>> No.44407407

>>44407376
And what does that have to do with "Gura has no JP fans"

>> No.44407432
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Just pre-ordered Watame's Nendo, what have you bought lately /#/s?

>> No.44407441

>>44407402
either a seething 2view or a confused nijifag who thinks acrylics are the pinnacle of merch

>> No.44407445

What is the highest views gained in a month?
(excluding topic channel merge)

>> No.44407455

>>44407402
the sad thing about /#/ and really /vt/ in general is that if you're just persistent about saying the wrong thing eventually someone will bite to correct you

>> No.44407463

>>44407337
I mean let’s be real, I am sure you are expecting Gura to sing some English song but we all know she would rather sing Plastic Love or Miku songs
Same to Kiara, she would rather sing some Japanese idol songs

>> No.44407464

>>44407137
we don't fucking have the numbers for those ever since that bug was fixed.
And the one we have number show terrible results compared to what we got from JP.

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>>44407335
>the blue dorito is evil. Its keeping Gura from collabing with 3views and inclining western vtubing as a whole
lmao yeah it was kind of funny

>> No.44407513

>>44407137
The best part is that those aren't even the sole Myth Acrylic stand released in past what 24hrs? the Idol costume ones from holofes that koyo and akzi shilled yesterday will sell over the default pose in every occasion.

>> No.44407516

>>44407378
>Could not beat Moona even with Marine and Pekore
>inb4 it was the date

>> No.44407548

>>44407455
unfortunately, if no one corrects it newfags will parrot it

>> No.44407562

>>44407432
Gura daki, her 1/7 holofes figure and Lamys relax time figure. I'll 100% get Koyori's nendo and wish there was more instead of lapshit getting everything.

>> No.44407573

>>44407492
Someone really ought to make a "Seethe" edit of the webm

>> No.44407574

>>44407407
More accesible to jp than the lamps
Yet not sold out

>> No.44407578

>>44407492
I wonder if JP puritans seethed when they saw that picture.

>> No.44407582

>>44406567
tenga

>> No.44407590

>>44407463
Is there any company Yagoo can Collab with to sing eigo song freely?

>> No.44407597

>>44407492
not that one the other one which was
>the only reason why nijien bleeds viewers most of the time while hololive does not is because of the blue dorrito. If the same nijis were streaming on hololive they wouldnt get those shitty bleeds most of the time

>> No.44407601

>>44406861
But anon, big corpo is bad (anykara)

>> No.44407630

>>44407516
how much did ID1 branch 3d live get on their channel in a good JP time slot?

>> No.44407633

>>44407492
I will never take Nijinigger seriously again after
>It’s Cover’s fault, they are Jewish because Holo talent have to pay taxes to the government
>Anykara not investing back into the company IS GOOD because it mean they pay more taxes and build the country”

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>>44406929
>>44406967
>>44407094

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>>44407432
I'm thinking of biting the bullet on a Tanya fig

>> No.44407683

>>44407513
Exactly, at least THOSE ones are fucking worth considering as part of Fes, these '3d debut' stands were 1000% meant to come out ages ago, and so awkwardly out the door to die they go.

>> No.44407690

>>44407630
Did they even had a 3D LIVE there and not a premiere?

>> No.44407708

>>44407516
>Casually mixing in holo v holo in the middle of conversation
Classic nijinigger

>> No.44407721

>>44407463
I am just thinking in terms of maximizing peak CCV. But we know they do not care about that stuff.

>> No.44407730

>>44407590
there isn't a single company, that's the whole problem with EN songs is that most of them are owned by like several different entities. The composor will own the compostion, the singer will own the lyrics, one company will own the syndication rights, and another company will own the karaoke rights, etc etc. So if you want to dot all your i and cross all your t like cover does you have to negotiate with six or seven different entities for every single song, and that's more work than they want to deal with

>> No.44407734
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44407734

>Fauna vs Bae
>after Fauna vs IRyS

>> No.44407741

>>44407633
The anykara taxes was a whole coep list in itself

>> No.44407762

>>44407662
>m*le
yab

>> No.44407772

>>44407690
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oY0HSWOqV0s
This was live, not a premiere.

>> No.44407774

>>44406643
8-15 win for nijisanji, hololive is dead

>> No.44407780

I don't care about numbers.
Is pekora the biggest vtuber in the world?

>> No.44407781

>>44404093
holojp or holoen?

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44407796

>>44407690
>mini
its still an hour long. Also it got 29k ccv

>> No.44407800

>>44407662
God Gundam RG and Zeong RG

>> No.44407808

>>44407741
speaking of nijicopes they are still peddling that cover doesn't pay a salary because their financial reports says so

>> No.44407815

>>44407492
post the webm

>> No.44407817

>>44407633
There also Riku is good for taking the money and it Liver fault for getting bad number

>> No.44407834

>>44407780
That's Fulgur

>> No.44407843

Miko dancing was truly a reminder for sisters and nijitrannies that they will never amount to anything against a successful woman like the saint of hololive eh? the grim life of a nijifan.

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>>44407772
That was actually decent

>> No.44407856

>>44407780
no that would either be selen or fulgur

>> No.44407862
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>How it started
>How it's going

>> No.44407872

>>44407796
Now to be fair. TO BE FAIR, they got overlapped by Pekora with FGO, where she had like 88k at peak. Mind you many of those were 'out of the box' tourists, but it probably would have done better otherwise.

>> No.44407879

honestly I still don't understand why HoloEN's numbers go up when they start shilling merch

>> No.44407884

>>44407633
By keeping the money Riku is making sure that his Livers dont pay too much taxes!! On the contrary Yagoo takes less pay and lets his talents pay taxes up the ass!

>> No.44407892

>>44407780
From what I have seen being thrown around /here/, Fulgur is the biggest.

>> No.44407902

>>44407879
people tab in to look

>> No.44407903

>>44407843
>the saint of hololive
That's a new one.

>> No.44407910

>>44407780
Maybe 5th place
She will never be the biggest, even if she keep climbing until she fucking died
I mean even now you can notice she is hitting an invisible wall. Her birthday live did not incline compare to last year, her VOD view still the same, ccv the same, sub growth the same
She’s not reclining, but doesn’t incline either. Unless she found a way to break through that ceiling she will never get a chance of being on top again

>> No.44407916

>>44407879
Tab out shenanigans.
It's the simplest explanation that also follows based on how we know youtube just loves to smack you for not having things on the active tab.

>> No.44407923
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>>44407772
>>44407796
>>44407846
Under a 88k overlap by Pekora too

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44407928

predictions?

>> No.44407930

>>44407872
live by the JP box die by the JP box, they sure loved the non-overlap ruled funnels of the prior days.

>> No.44407942

>>44407879
Gura just saying "bag" to shill her merch was funny. I dont know what it means maybe she doesnt like it

>> No.44407943

Is Suisei already Mori-tier?

>> No.44407944

>>44407633
>>44407817
there was also another which was "its actually better that they are giving money to riku and the investors than supporting their livers"
nu-nijifans are something else entirely

>> No.44407969

>>44407928
Pain

>> No.44407986

>>44407944
Nijifans really are the only group who cheer when Riku takes money from his talents to fund his yatch

>> No.44407989

I always see merch showcases and roomreviews and shit with merch from many chuubas.. why would you ever buy merch for someone other than your oshi?

>> No.44408000

>>44407910
>5th

Who else is in top 5?

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>>44407928
Cripple gold.

>> No.44408010
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44408010

JP7 tomorrow

>> No.44408012

>>44407944
What do you expect from the twitter crowd

>> No.44408030

>>44408000
Ehhh I was just taking a wild guess

>> No.44408036

How is there still a wactor general

>> No.44408050

>>44407928
the debuffson special

>> No.44408058

>>44407943
No one can reach Mori tiers of terrible.

>> No.44408063

>>44407942
She probably had little or no input into it and it's' kinda simple so she doesn't care. Compare it to the sales pitch for the gura bowl and chopsticks.

>> No.44408073

>>44407942
Anon, it's just a bit. I mean, one syllable "bag" and not saying anything else is the COMPLETE OPPOSITE of what one would expect one would do to shill the merch. It's not like she hadn't just shilled it to 60k+ people not two days previous either, so she probably wasn't exactly pressed to try and remind people it'd be available (unlike Ina, Mori and Kiara, who's showcases were 1/2 weeks prior).
I can't believe I had to explain the joke, I feel filthy.

>> No.44408078

>>44408010
Wait this is actually PekoMiko daughter wtf. That is identical to Pekora short hair

>> No.44408081

>>44408000
Selen
Fulgur
Mori
Suisei

>> No.44408102

>>44407730
There are some national JASRAC equivalents around for western record labels but they it doesn't quite translate to the use case and international audience that cover needs.

>> No.44408108

>>44407928
Amelia failing to reach 5k and then funneling to Fauna just in time for the latter to go into SC reading.

>> No.44408112

>>44407463
Gura loves those songs but come on if she really liked japanese songs more in their entirety she would have more JP karaokes than unarchived ENs. I'm sure they all wish they had the option to perform english songs too

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>>44407928
>>44408008
Fauna 5k
Ame 6k
Vox ASMR cripple gold

>> No.44408124

>>44407879
I have this headcannon after the myth collab.
My spicy take is that the streams are not interesting enough for the viewers to tab in. It means, they care about the actual content less than the merch shilling, which is BAD when we are talking about entertainment value.

>> No.44408129

>>44408008
3k

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>>44407989
>why would you ever buy merch for someone other than your oshi?
I would have bought Mio jacket if it was practical to do so from the EU. It looks good and "neutral" enough to be put to daily use

>> No.44408137

>>44407944
Like, at least 3/4ths of the people hopping into that chain were absolutely shitposting, the same ones who shift topics and run to the catalogue for shits and giggles. There's probably one, maybe two actual deluded fuckers who genuinely believe it though, there always are no matter what the topic or point is.

>> No.44408154

>>44408010
getting JP7 for watchalong now or after holofes to push the maximum tourist possible ont them? truly a dilemma. i would prefer them after.

>> No.44408161

who is this Fulgur guy and what has ge done

>> No.44408167

>>44407942
They probably were hounding her for so long trying their hardest to convince her to do something other than the daki that she just went "ok you do the next one".

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>Lured by tits into the Niji anti thread again

AAAAAAAHHH

>> No.44408180

>>44408102
Yes, and hence the absolute clusterfuck that country roads ran into.

>> No.44408185

>>44408113
Fauna will get above 7k. That's all it takes to beat vox asmr now.

>> No.44408187

>>44408134
Pure aesthetic.

>> No.44408196

>>44408081
>Suisei being fat
And other shenanigans nijiniggers like to push

>> No.44408197

>>44408134
I still haven't got mine, didn't Cover say that they were going to do something about shipping this year?

>> No.44408205

>>44407464
>And the one we have number show terrible results compared to what we got from JP.
???
What are the JP acrylic sales you are comparing them to?

>> No.44408211

>>44408124
If that was the case wouldnt the stream have bleed instead of going up?
Weve seen what graphs of streams with no entertainment value look like and they usually bleed early

>> No.44408224

>>44408176
fuck off tranny

>> No.44408234

>>44408176
ALL OUT WAR

>> No.44408241

>>44408134
This is the best holo merch.

>> No.44408239

>>44407942
Gura always makes it really obvious when she cares about a piece of merch and when she doesn't. She likes signaling to her fans like that. See the dakimakura in comparison

>> No.44408247

>>44408161
he disrespected his betters while hanging on to the coattails of those bigger, well with a larger fanbase than himself once.

>> No.44408256

>>44408161
He didn't do well as expected (innreference to his mandatory anykara idol reps)

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>>44408185
>Fauna will get above 7k.
Absolutely not. She got 7k in an empty slot with the same game last time and this time she's overlapping Ame.

>> No.44408263

>>44407928
7k (post funnel) and 4k

>> No.44408264

>>44408010
It kinda remind me of Pekora jk costume

>> No.44408274

>Myth
>Council
What's next?

>> No.44408283

>>44408176
Rosemi would have been good if she got into hololive, too bad now she is just another one of Luca's playthings...

>> No.44408284

>>44408113
>9k likes now, 19hrs old tweet
holy shit manjisanji you good? not even the fake hype from twitter is there anymore.

>> No.44408287

>>44408137
>maybe two actual deluded fuckers who genuinely believe it though
Im almost 100 certain it was the resident niji inter/noor who made this thread home ever since the reddit graph fiasco

>> No.44408299

>>44408134
kek one of the two pieces of merch I ever bought
and my country never has winter so I've only worn it once

>> No.44408313

>>44408274
Hope

>> No.44408314

>>44408124
You're reading too much into it in terms of dislike. It's not that EOPfags aren't entertained. They just aren't going to tab in when the audio works just fine

>> No.44408320

>>44408161
Broke a few scales I've heard

>> No.44408331

>>44408176
Oh hey rosebud. Post your femboy cock, I heard all rosebuds have cute ones.

>> No.44408336

>>44408274
Tempuke

>> No.44408338

>>44408187
it's ultra comfy too, I didn't expect that level of quality

>> No.44408349

>>44408196
suisei is chubby not fat

>> No.44408357

>>44408112
She likes singing English songs in an utwk setting but she likes performing the Miku stuff

>> No.44408387

>>44408314
See that huge spike i'm viewership when Gura said the words
>I'm gonna get naked.

>> No.44408408

>>44408274
legends

>> No.44408412

>>44408274
Fairytales
Hag
Cooking

RTS

>> No.44408422

>>44407578
JP puritans are a group that, as far as I can tell, literally only exist on 4chan.
There are no JOPs frothing at the mouth about how akshually HololiveEN/ID is not Hololive.

>> No.44408449

>>44408412
Man, anon, how long has it been since you typed that?

>> No.44408459

>>44408211
It won't bleed if they care enough about the whole stream itself but not care enough to tab in. There is also this net positive churn rate, especially Gura's.

>> No.44408469

>/ggg/ is saving /nijiEN/ from getting eliminated
fucking hell...

>> No.44408486

>>44408008
I've always wondered when i see those screenshots why does the menhera faggot always title his streams in 3rd person?

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>>44408196
OH NO NO NO NO HOSHIYOMIS NOT LIKE THIS

>> No.44408522

>>44408176
I want to pollinate your oshi

>> No.44408552

>>44408486
It's easy to do when you always look at yourself from an outsiders pov. This leads to self esteem issues and depression though cause you're always worried about what others think.

>> No.44408556

>>44408357
Anon she literally can't perform EN songs because of the hoops we have to jump through so how can you say she wouldn't like performing them?
Like I said, she absolutely does like performing Miku songs, and still would no matter what, but if you think she wouldn't also kill to perform big iron or some disney songs on stage you don't know Gura.
She loves english music too and would certainly like the opportunity to sing some on stage. Any EN would because they have english music they love

>> No.44408576
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44408576

>>44407590
>Is there any company Yagoo can Collab with to sing eigo song freely
Nope. As anon at >>44408102, even for North America only, there are a few companies representing right holders similar to JASRAC but there is a MAJOR distinction: Japanese labels, composers and songwriters are much more reasonable in the way they deal with licensing their songs for covers in the internet age than North American based labels.
For an Holo girl to make a cover of a song she doesn't need anything other to pay the compulsory licensing, which is calculated PER SALE
>pic related for a 1000 CDs sold
For some services like Spotify that goes down to ZERO because they foot the per play licensing cost you would need to pay (docking it out of your revenue).

So far so good. There is nothing preventing Gura from recording a cover for (let's say) Disney's Let it go (from Frozen soundtrack) and putting it for sale in physical and digital form on iTunes, Amazon, Walmart and whatever other regular avenue for music sales.
>BUUUUUT....
But she can't make a MV for it. For music videos (or any other form of combined video for the song) she would need a completely different license called a "synchronization license" and that does not have a fixed rate, but need to be negotiated with the rights holder on their terms.

That's where the difference between Japan and North America comes: Japanese labels are reasonable and simply give an "OK go" for a similarly modest fee (and I'm not sure if JASRAC takes care fo that) but North American labels?
>see: Myth and Country Roads
According to the girls Country Roads was such a kafkiesque process EN management swore on their ancestor bones to NEVER AGAIN try to make a Cover whose rights had to be acquired in the west.

>> No.44408578

>>44408499
Holy fuck she's the hulk

>> No.44408583

>>44408499
obvious tracking issue

>> No.44408603

>>44408459
so they are entertained by the stream because they listened to it and tabbed in during the merch part?
kinda sounds to me they are watching it while doing something else work school etc and tabbed in when they wanted to see the merch

>> No.44408636

>>44408274
>Void
Because we aint getting any new Gen

>> No.44408646

>>44408134
>>44408187
>>44408197
>>44408241
>>44408299
I regret dearly not rolling the dice, making a "straw purchase" and figuring out how to ship it to southern europe.

>> No.44408670

>>44408603
Zoomers are too ADHD to just sit there and stare at one video for an hour straight

>> No.44408692

>>44408196
Watch streams or clips, ignorant tribalist.
Suisei admitted to being fat of course not in burger standards.
She even tweeted about losing weight.

>> No.44408732

>>44408670
zoomers are usually the last person to tab in for commercials anon

>> No.44408739

>>44408692
Gaining weight =/= fat retard

>> No.44408747

>>44408692
Japanese idea of being fat is like OH MY GOD I HAVE 3-4 KILOS ABOVE AVERAGE. Just look at Chama.

>> No.44408803

>>44408692
Mate, the type of "fat" she was talking about was
>stopped walking for a couple of months and put on 2 Kg
in a rought paraphrase. It reminds me of Haachama in her "debuchama" arc, and she went back to form in a few weeks making it part of her content and keeping a weight diary
>that incidentally threw Botan, Matsuri and some of the other girls into a tail spin because of the speed Haachama did it
The whole "Suisei is fat" started as deflection from "don't search kson on youtube" when she did that video and AWFUL thumbnail with notMori.
It's just an attempt of "Holo v. Holo"

>> No.44408831

>>44408747
Every time I try to look at Haachama, I end up staring at her boobs and thighs.

>> No.44408843

>>44408747
Matsuri's perpetual failed dieting.

>> No.44408867

>>44408803
Is it really holo v holo if it is deflection from one of the holos starting to look like the michelin man?

>> No.44408869

>>44407879
I mean, the summer concert had its peak at the end screen.

>> No.44408921

>>44408576
>>44408102
Thanks for the explanation,I guess the only solution is getting original spam like Mori or find a youtube original like Ayame

>> No.44408945

nijisissies status?

>> No.44408992

>>44408747
Anon,BMI above 21 is FAT in Asian

>> No.44409029

ensharts deflecting again. Jp members are fit, unlike EN whores. gura, mori, mumei, fauna and ame are all fat

>> No.44409051

Bros hear me out

Suisei, but she streams

>> No.44409080

I feel like half the thread is obese from all the fucking bait getting eaten today.

>> No.44409088

>>44408739
Gaining weight= becoming fat in retarded Jap standards. Call the Japs retard instead. They set that ridiculous standard.

>> No.44409108

>>44409080
>today

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seethe

>> No.44409138

>>44408992
Everyone would be anorexic by that standard
https://aadi.joslin.org/en/am-i-at-risk/asian-bmi-calculator?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIkvTq09OZ5wIVRrDtCh36jwApEAAYASAAEgKMNvD_BwE

>> No.44409287

>>44409114
You will never be Hololive
t. >>>/jp/42827279

>> No.44409357

>>44408576
>According to the girls Country Roads was such a kafkiesque process
I mean, of course it was. Any village idiot could have told you that, if they bothered to ask someone in burgerland.
Just look at this shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vrEljMfXYo
>SME (on behalf of RCA Records Label); PT Nadaku Musik
>UNIAO BRASILEIRA DE EDITORAS DE MUSICA - UBEM, MINT_BMG, Forward Music Publishing Co., Ltd.
>CMRRA, ARESA, LatinAutorPerf, ASCAP, Abramus Digital, Kobalt Music Publishing
>BMG Rights Management (US), LLC, Reservoir Media (Publishing),
>and 15 Music Rights Societies
At minimum, and ignoring regional distributors, Sony is getting a pound of flesh, RCA is getting a pound of flesh, and John Denver's estate is getting something.

>> No.44409374

>>44409287
>unironically crossposting your bait from /jp/
Kindly impale yourself with a spoon, then throw yourself into oncoming traffic you baitposting retard.

>> No.44409424

>>44409287
HoloEN the circus act of hololive

>> No.44409442

>>44407432
Latest arrival is the Marine daki that got here 1.5 years later.

>> No.44409456

>>44409114
Part-timer have been missing for 2 week after "I m back"

>> No.44409523

>>44409287
how did /hlg/ go from the place with the strongest schizos to being a less than 100 IP ESL babbling chat room?

>> No.44409540

>>44409287
YWNBJ

>> No.44409554
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44409554

>>44409287
The 2 Million Sub Trench
The Cope Gambit
The 2 Million Man Marathon
The Insurmountable Wall
The Fallen Mindchair

>> No.44409564

And now you understand why we call them jpniggers

>> No.44409610

>>44409523
The schizos came here leaving only the bait biters

>> No.44409622

This is some very unusual hours for JP vs EN schizo shit

>> No.44409657

>>44409564
Honestly, nobody caught my point. Are guys here this stupid?

>> No.44409661

>>44409287
Why are JP fans so embarrassing?

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>> No.44409692

>>44409523
That shithole is what happens when you start consuming japanese only content without ever learning japanese.

>> No.44409703

>>44409622
This is how it always is during euro hours in /hlg/, for some reason they decided to export their schizos to us today

>> No.44409714

Enna>irys
Melon>irys
Bae>irys
Suisei>irys
Salome>irys
Mori>irys
Fauna>irys

>> No.44409722

>>44409523
>/hlg/
>strongest schizos
rumao, it never stops hilarious how /vyt/ was completely forgotten while being oblivious to newfags

>> No.44409737 [DELETED] 

>>44409661
chuuni brown kids that lost the genetic lottery.

>> No.44409759

>>44409714
>who i want to marry
IRyS> all

>> No.44409790

>>44408921
There is one interesting thing about the japanese song market: the existence of vocaloid allowed for song writers and song composers to create a MOTHERFUCKING HUGE selection of songs without needing the most complicated part
>to find a decent enough singer to practice, rehearse and sing it
That created a massive poll of talented artists composing for vocaloid (usually doing it for free), and then picked up for covers and eventually, when they're talented enough, original songs by lung-having singers.

In North America and most of the west, the OPPOSITE process ended up happening.
By virtue of music labels controlling the WHOLE industry from the garage band (or convenience store mix tape rapper) being picked up by a producer to what gets played in the radio or "organically viral" on TikTok, the only way to get ANYTHING done is by kissing the feet of one of the RIAA labels (and, in girls' case, a whole more than feet kissing, see Kei$ha) and praying they are inclined to allow you to do anything.

So, unless you want EN management to peddle some of the cute girls from the branch to Weinstein-tier ugly bastards, it's an uphill battle to get any EN song (cover or original) with professional quality made for western style taste

>> No.44409810

>>44409657
If you were trying to be slick by crossposting the seethe, any subtlety is lost because of the amount of retardation present in the linked post. It overwhelms any attempts at being slick.

>> No.44409831

>>44409714
you should show me your clitoRyS

>> No.44409833

>>44406929
there's no way bae's 700k endurance will be successful, she'll need like 7k+ subs when the day comes

>> No.44409836

>>44409737
>JP
Brown?

>> No.44409850

>>44409831
based

>> No.44409858

>>44409714
Leave Salami out of this.

>> No.44409859
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>>44408499
>Marine literally phasing through Suisei
Are you saying she's only fat from her left side or what? Are nijiniggers this retarded?

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>>44409833
You betting against hololive?

>> No.44409936

>>44409831
What if she is actually a he?

>> No.44409950

>>44409858
Salome is what irys should have been though? Irystocraps always cope about her low numbers being cause she's a solo debut when salome btfo her no contest.

>> No.44409953

>>44409859

>The 10 commandments of the Nijisanji Fandom
>1. Any success how little must be blown out of proportion.
>2. Any failure is not a failure, but rather a success, see (1) for how to continue.
>3. If provided with any proof that is contrary to OUR and YOUR belief as a Nijisanji fan, dismiss it, call it incorrect or fabricated. Never submit any counter proof.
>4. If a proof is irrefutable, redirect the attention. Now is a perfect time to point the finger at some other company. Who are we kidding, there is only one company to point the finger at!
>5. Always highlight the failures of the opposition
>6. Never acknowledge the success of others.
>7. Remember that all mistakes, rumors and lies that does not involve Nijisanji is true and is always malicious. Spread it as much as possible, the goal should always to hurt the opposition.
>8. Harass the fans of other companies. While doing so point out that Nijisanji Livers are so much better in every way!
>9. Should (8) not work, harass the Liver of said fans. While doing so point out that Nijisanji Livers are so much better in every way!
>10. Lie. Lie like your life depends on it. Never accept a concession. Always lie if you are in a disadvantageous position.

>> No.44409991

>>44409836
are you this slow for real or so thirsty for (You)?

>> No.44409993

>>44409287
Wait that retarded enshart poster here...that place is filled with clones of him, I'm getting second hand embarrassment from reading that thread. Thankful I never went there

>> No.44410012

>>44409936
Trannies don't count

>> No.44410068

>>44409993
The whole shart thing is jp lingo, you honestly shouldn't be surprised

>> No.44410086

Is there any EN that still tries to follow her character and lore?

>> No.44410089

>>44409859
Niji 3D is worse. But Cover 3D is still bad. They still need to work on it and not be complacent.

>> No.44410101

>>44408499
The mori of jp

>> No.44410115

>>44409936
literally writes and behaves like a woman, not even trannies are this convincing

>> No.44410128

>>44409714
Body count
>Enna>irys
ESL
>Melon>irys
Dancing
>Bae>irys
Flatness
>Suisei>irys
Recline
>Salome>irys
Weight
>Mori>irys
Grating singing voice
>Fauna>irys

>> No.44410174
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>>44409790
In a bout of irony, there is the equivalent of the "vocaloid P" scene in the western world too: the "melanated fruitloops beatmaker".
Up until the early 2000s, the way colored folks made their raps and hip hop songs was
1) Pick a groovy song from the 60s and 70s
2) Sample beats, vocals and melody
3) Arrange it in a creative and repetitive way
4) Ruin it by babbling incomprehensible african american vernacular english over it

But then record labels started suing and demanding the sampled songs being used to be licensed and it all but killed that scene, which had to rely on original beats to create theri songs.
Fortunately, pirating FruitLoops was cheap, it ran even on old celeron computers and allowed for all sorts of people to create their own beats and, recently, put it for free online (with their tags over it) for sale on a one time payment royalty free basis.

From that excvessively tanned folks could resume with their babbled songs that, somehow, North Americans appreciate very much and, at the same time
>AND HERE IS WHERE IT CONNECTS WITH VTUBERS
those beats are also available for use by ANYONE, including vtubers and, again, in a one time payment no royalties basis

Here are some examples
1) Haachama shitpost song "Haacha-motherfucking"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgqSwPQkxTc
made out of a sample of Soulker - Orochi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nj33MArNjC8

and also, also by Haachama
>This is haato bassic cooking rap
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9AkIEDVHoU
sampled from
>Dima24Game - Next Level
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0ToBqB2Wdk
(which, incidentally, is much more known for being the basis for a much more famous song from NotYouKnowWho)

>> No.44410201

>>44409108
It's definitely worse than usual.

>> No.44410207

>>44409993
You must be new

>> No.44410266

>>44409114
>>44409287
>>44409661
>More desperate Nijifaggery

>> No.44410414

>>44408078
>No twintails
>No dual color hair
>Identical to Pekora

>> No.44410418

>>44408274
akatsuki

>> No.44410431

>>44410207
There are people in this thread who've never watched coco before

>> No.44410473

>>44410431
It's not really that hard to imagine, considering Coco is dead for longer than she was alive

>> No.44410524

>>44408274
Revengeance

>> No.44410533

>>44408078
retardo

>> No.44410590

>>44408274
Tempus

>> No.44410669

>>44410590
Wouldn't that be a kick in the guts?

>> No.44410715

>>44410174
>NotYouKnowWho
JK Rowling?

>> No.44410729

>>44408274
Imperium, military/royalty theme
source: weird dream

>> No.44410745

>enna 3 view

>> No.44410756

>>44408576
You are a fucking retard. Let's completely set aside the multititude of Western songs that are already licensed through JASRAC, ranging from Disney to pop to much more eclectic stuff. Licensing a cover, even for just Youtube, is fucking trivial as shown by the multitude of high profile cover artists who not only put their covers on Youtube but Spotify as well, such as Annapantsu, Lunity, and many others. Obtaining a sync license is not particularly hard nor expensive either, and since Cover is in Japan, they actually play by a different set of rules where they don't need a sync license. You also have plenty of Japanese companies which are able to secure the rights to cover English songs, most notably Kamitsubaki who's RIM has double digit English covers, ranging from very recent pop to older classics. The problem is solely on Cover's side, and the fact that you retards continue to spout the "look at Country Roads" example is fucking hilarious because we already know how incompetent Cover is about obtaining game permissions but somehow you magically expect them to be on top of their game for music permissions.

>> No.44410761
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44410761

>>44408274
Ayylmao

>> No.44410778

>>44410473
Is it already that long?
Debut: 19/12/28 Graduation: 21/07/01
It really is kek.

>> No.44410850

>>44410756
>as shown by the multitude of high profile cover artists who not only put their covers on Youtube
Put some examples up, let's analyze their licensing.
Bonus points if they're not part of a RIAA label so it guarantees they're not just cross licensing

>> No.44410854

>>44410473
I can't even imagine the state of people that have got into Hololive in 2022. It actually sounds depressing.

>> No.44410891

>>44410850
You're so dumb that you can't even read a complete sentence for said examples.

>> No.44410899

>>44408576
This falls kinda flat when Kiara were talking about them failing to get permissions for royalty free Korean music for over a year by this point

>> No.44410973

>>44410891
I can, you fucking retard, you put some artist names up but not the songs.
You surely don't expect you mention the name of some artists and people to scour their body of work trying to guess which songs you are referring to, are you?

Link the song, let's see if it is possible to determine the nature of their license.
It must have an MV because, without an MV, it doesn't need a synchronization license

>> No.44410974

>>44410745
Fuck off fag

>> No.44410991

Planetarium is a fucking banger.

>> No.44411014

>>44410854
Judging by the numbers they aren't, at least on the EN side

>> No.44411039
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>>44410729

>> No.44411052

>>44409714
The only chuuba who I will even entertain a "better than IRyS" argument on is Sakura Miko. Miko and IRyS are 1a and 1b when it comes to being the best chuuba.

>> No.44411116

>>44409833
I think she can do it. Don't underestimate a call to action.

>> No.44411124

>>44410854
Why? Hololive is better than ever and that includes EN. 3D for them, Holofes, etc. It keeps getting better and better

>inb4 muh nostalgia
Nah, it's better now than it ever was

>> No.44411162

>>44407910
She got this far through sheer hard work, she doesn't need a viral clip or song. All she has to do is go live and at least 20k dedicated nousagis will be there.

>> No.44411170

>>44410973
I'm sure going to a channel and finding a song that fits your criteria is fucking hard, but here's one that the rights to the song are still held by the original composer of the musical, and even putting the song to a still image counts as requiring a sync license if you've actually read up on the legal part of this, so I'm not sure why I'm even bothering to explain this to you when you clearly know jack shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADTA2rU-l-8

>> No.44411173

>>44410974
>can't use multi POV cope

>> No.44411196

>>44411052
Her 5h long hitman stream was such a bore that a funnel of 50k people watching Myth gave her only 50k VOD views.
Pretty telling, ain't it?

>> No.44411244

>>44407432
bocchi nendo and gunpla

>> No.44411290

>>44410756
>Annapantsu
It reminds me of this song
https://youtu.be/mW61VTLhNjQ
There is no way the publisher of this song properly asked for permission to do this shit and the copyright holders are not autistic enough to hunt down whoever made this song.

>> No.44411295
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44411295

>2023
>I am forgotten

>> No.44411310

>>44411295
This but shitrys

>> No.44411321

>>44410473
Coco barely lasted longer than Sana.

>> No.44411340

why did fubuki fall off?

>> No.44411401
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>>44411124
>dekofes
>endless management bureaucracy
>permission shit
>several talents on soft-graduation mode
>etc etc
Some things got better, mainly 3D, some worse. Claiming that things are better than ever is literally newfag into the trash opinion.

>> No.44411406
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44411406

>>44411170
>and even putting the song to a still image counts as requiring a sync license
You retard, she clearly didn't license shit and even disclaimed it as a fan work.

You were required to put an example with a proper license **AND** a MV (something that is obvious a necessity for Holos) and you posted bootleg shit.
Please either put an example up or stop stenching up the thread with your retardation

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>>44411340
Fall off what?

>> No.44411467

>>44411295
this but HoloEN

>> No.44411522

>>44410854
That's me...I have never known any other Hololive
I got in during the first half of 2022 which was okay though. I can't imagine getting into Holo during the second half of 2022.

>> No.44411538

>>44411290
That song is a special case isn't it? I believe he gave permission to anyone wanting to play it or cover it when the rick roll thing took off.

>> No.44411579

>>44411433
>349 peak
It's over..

>> No.44411609

>>44411522
>getting into Holo during the second half of 2022
I can see some people getting drawn in by the re-newed gura clips

>> No.44411615 [DELETED] 

>>44407432
>giving money to a black company who fires talents without previously warning
lol

>> No.44411617

>>44411433
these aren't good numbers buddy

>> No.44411634

>>44411340
Fubuki just does whatever she wants, even giga debuff shit like replaying FF14. Don't worry, she'll get her daily 40k ccv again once the next pokemon game comes out and she starts hunting for golden magikarp for the 500th time

>> No.44411637

>>44410854
Why would they? You saying like they have to know Coco to enjoy other girls

>> No.44411661
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>>44410745
>>44411173
get fucked.
also it's literally multi pov retard

>> No.44411668
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44411668

>>44410174
>vocaloid producers are japan's equivalent of soundcloud rappers

>> No.44411673
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my cute wife

>> No.44411690 [DELETED] 
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44411690

Is it worth it to stream wizard game to attract antifa's attention?
I think so.

>> No.44411741

>>44411668
Not "equivalent". Only filling the same niche

>> No.44411763

>>44411661
Damn, Enna really fell off.

>> No.44411764
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44411764

>ENfags seething over Miko mogging the lazy whores
All is right with the world

>> No.44411766

>>44411170
>I only own my voice! This is made by fans for fans, please support the original release!
Based on the wording, there is no way she has proper license to use the song. Most probably, she let the copyright owners take its viewership revenue.

>> No.44411775

>>44408274
Ariel Pink

>> No.44411776

>>44411522
You me?
Am EOP to boot

>> No.44411795

>>44411661
OH SHIT BROS ENNA GOT ABOVE 1K AIIEEEEEEE

>Multi POV by an ex-ID
Wouldn't change much I'd say

>> No.44411833

>>44411673
ianfu

>> No.44411845

>>44411795
That's great with the shitty timeslot, debuff game, and overlap. Also ID debuff is real.

>> No.44411850

ENNA 13000 DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.44411870
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>>44411340
>why did fubuki fall off?
Fubuki what?

Here is Fubuki 30 days chart
>pic related
she might have one of the BIGGEST ranges between her buff arcs and her debuff arcs out of all of Hololive, including one of the highest spikes out of every Holo girl.
She bounces up and down between 8k and 15k depending on whether she's doing something buffed or something debuffed and she definitely doesn't care about which is which, Fubuki does what Fubuki does.

>> No.44411952

>>44411661
It is not an own you think it is.

>> No.44411966

>>44411845
barely 4view is never great nijinig

>> No.44411990

>>44411870
That's just a guy scraping for baits

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44412005

>>44410973
NTA, but I took a look at The First Take for ideas, since they've got the Avril Lavigne one. All of them have the brief description and socials, but check this credits page comparsion.

The tiny one? That's DISH, the most viewed cover on The First Take. I took a look at Yoru ni Kakeru and it's pretty much the same length.

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44412025

>>44411406
>I'm a retard who doesn't understand licensing

Got it. An Mp4 with a static image still requires a sync license since it is video content, so you being hung up on a MV is quite retarded, especially when 99% of Holo covers are just a fucking static image with the lyrics and some Adobe Effects, but here if you insist it has to be exactly the same quality level as a fucking Holo MV, here's two examples from a Japanese company, including one of the more difficult songs to license in old Taylor Swift music, and a bonus song of See You Again that Cover had to pull down a meme video of FBK's because licensing is hard :(. You still also haven't even looked at what is actually possible through JASRAC. Here's an example Disney song with that nice little video box showing a circle to mean it's okay to make a video cover.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVnIym9g-Do
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9F-uwu660Y

>> No.44412064

>>44411690
The fuck is that

>> No.44412066

>>44411870
One funny thing about this chart is that it seems Fubuki SUPERCHARGES for November and December, her three highest peaks coincide with that period

>> No.44412072

>read thread
>People pretending Fauna isn't a talentless hack that got in because of her voice alone
Fauna has literally no defining traits, has no skills (supposed to be ASMR but you can take any indie off the street and give them a ku and they'll do better), sucks at networking, has no respect for the JPs, both can't and refuses to talk to them, can't sing, can't dance, can't draw; there's no point to her m.

>> No.44412086

>>44411870
>"Ccvid"
>Fubuki all time high
Evidence against the validity of this so called "ccvid"

>> No.44412109

Ok, but why did Hololive opt to have MVs made for the shittiest tracks from their Deco collab? Are they deaf?

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>> No.44412139

>>44411124
I was thinking yesterday

>damn, hololive really is great

my day basically went korone sm64 -> luna electone -> myth 3d -> kanataso -> senchou goi -> miko bday

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>>44412124

>> No.44412167

>>44412072
>A talentless hack that got in on pure talent
wdymbt

>> No.44412183

>>44412072
Ah yes, diamond in the rough

>> No.44412214
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44412214

Good haul.

>> No.44412267

>>44412214
If only they had the foresight to invest bit of time each week into the channel.

>> No.44412297
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44412297

Suityan..

>> No.44412303

>>44411764
Literally where

>> No.44412320
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44412320

>>44412267
>there's still more holostars stuff than hololive in the live section

>> No.44412327

>>44412109
Yes, it's like you don't watch their karaokes

>> No.44412330

>>44412214
What's stopping them for making their own hologra really
Even starsJP channel is doing it

>> No.44412340
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>>44408499
subaru is at least 2x bigger than her model
literal slenderman

>> No.44412346

>>44412086
It looks like it validates ccvid since she plummeted during it.
Or if you want a shitpost conclusion, it showed that youtube's anti-bot system worked against Foobs.

>> No.44412395

>>44412086
Fubuki got 30k in one of her videos. She struggles to get 100k these days.

>> No.44412429

>>44412330
too busy sucking homo cock

>> No.44412441

>>44412320
So irritating they let stars shit be the first streams on the channel.

>> No.44412452

>>44411764
>Miko leech
>500k vod views
>Gura
>800k vod views with supposed 3x less viewers
>Myth 3D Collab
>500k vod views with supposed 3x less viewers

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

If they're showing the real unculled CCV like unculled JPs who never lost viewers during start unlike EN who lost more than half and never recovers, then they couls have 2.5x more CCV what's currently showing for us, meaning all these 3D lives had 100k CCV minimum plus they got these numbers without leeching and needing the entire company to show in your live to get these viewers and still lost to Marine gimmick lives.

>> No.44412453
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>>44412303

>> No.44412489

>>44412072
I'm getting impatient waiting for Council's 3D showcases. Please, it is time to expose Fauna once and for all... Her lack of skills, exposed. Her lack of connections, exposed. Her low ceiling, exposed. PLEASE

>> No.44412507

>>44412330
they probably want to do it but only if it involves the homos, but the girls noped the fuck out

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44412539

Thoughts?

>> No.44412545

>>44412167
Having a fake voice isn't a talent and them thinking that her shitty fake voice matched her model was pure luck

>>44412183
More like cow manure in a mud pile.

>> No.44412556

>>44412507
Eh good call then

>> No.44412565

>>44412330
Sorry, hiring actually competent people for these would be beyond EN management, not to mention EN holos wouldn't really want to writer any scripts unlike homos or actually voice them regularly unlike JP ones
Maybe once CouncilRyS gets 3D

>> No.44412567

>>44412452
The VODschizo is here.

>> No.44412593

>>44412340
She's a bit taller than Mio, which throws a lot of stuff off, but never forget the biggest disparity
(looking for a screenshot of Shion and Coco)

>> No.44412606

>>44412072
>has no respect for the JPs
It's not that she doesn't have respect for them. She just doesn't care about them at all and doesn't watch them.

>> No.44412608

>>44412539
love

>> No.44412614

>>44412539
my wife

>> No.44412633

>>44412539
Fauna will be the best dancer in EN after Kiara and Bae at Fes

>> No.44412637

>>44412614
I wrote this

>> No.44412654

>>44412606
But she does and has mentioned stuff from JP streams before?

>> No.44412661

>>44412539
Kill yourself you off topic faggot

>> No.44412666

>>44412539
ID > homos => EN > JP
As far as idol costumes at least

>> No.44412679
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They can't even be bothered to post shorts anymore

>> No.44412687
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>>44412593
>a bit

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>>44412661

>> No.44412719
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44412719

Enna reclined.
I won't comment further about the NijiexID's sus graph.

>> No.44412737

>>44412633
120 bpm resting heart rate says otherwise

>> No.44412768

stand stock left
Mori 2158
Kiara 1343
Ina 2870
Gura 3684
Ame 2974

>> No.44412770

>>44412654
>Watches a single clip to appear like she cares

>> No.44412787

>>44412687
fuck off doxxschizo

>> No.44412801

>>44412679
didn't some manager faggot block them from posting shorts?

>> No.44412837

>>44412025
Mate, I'll start prefacing that I would 100% be OK with the Holo girls doing what you just put as RIM examples, even a slideshow with the lyrics as long as they could freely sing these songs.

With that said, based on the info about the licensing in the bottom of both videos and the fact neither cover seems to be published in the paid for sites (Spotify, Apple Music) it looks like they simply did not get a sync license for the cover and simply forfeit the monetization
I'm assuming this is her spotify page
https://open.spotify.com/artist/1rFELoNfdLOYWPwtrBN6zS

Again, just to make a disclaimer: I would absolutely LOVE to see the Holo girls do even this bare minimum, just cover a song, forget about a MV (and put a static image with the lyrics) forfeit monetization and the rights to publish in the platforms but at least GET THEM OUT THERE
In this point you and I are in agreement, they're not meeting even the bare minimum.

>> No.44412842

If you want to have fun, wtach Bettel prechat.... they are talking about how they started with Niji and now Bettel is their oshi

>> No.44412858

>>44412801
What's the great idea?

>> No.44412873
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>>44412593
Found the moment
https://youtu.be/JlmqIn_4z8c?t=216

Coco-Shion model height difference on the left
Coco pulling Shion from a foot away on the right.

>> No.44412889

>>44411764
No ENfag would ever seethe at EN prime.

>> No.44412909

>>44412842
Post images, not clicking on a homos channel

>> No.44412927

>>44412687
Yes, from my point of view, they're both still short 5-10cm difference isn't anything.

>> No.44412933

>>44412801
i thought it was a mix of them needing to get approval for shorts which made the girls not want to go through the effort of doing them.

>> No.44412947

>>44412842
makes sense, nijiEN has been bleeding viewership these recent month, surely tempus stealing some helps with that

>> No.44412961

>>44412909
Yeah, we know you're an insecure closeted faggot 35P.

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>>44412787
basically suifat rrats are retarded and subaru's arms are just really long
>>44412873
coco's arms were retarded
coco had a strong autism towards the tracking too, as you can see she tried her best to avoid clipping her tits

>> No.44412977

>>44412565
>hiring actually competent people for these
kek, you are implying the JP side hired competent people for those. They just give an "OK go" for a bunch of existing employees, one of them with some MMD experience, to make some shitpost videos and publish under the main channel.
It didn't use to even have a general script or a plot, it was barely better than a NicoNico MMD shitpost.

You can't really buy what's given for free, if there is nobody in the EN side with enough passion to do it, it is better off left undone

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>>44412842
sicklings...

>> No.44413008

>>44412961
>W-watch the homos faggot
No.

>> No.44413015

>>44412687
It's funny that Subaru went from being the most mysterious and unknown into being a "subaru ch" away from a YouTube app.

>> No.44413027

>>44411870
It is as they say, the only thing stopping Fubuki from being First Army is her own unwillingness.
Sora may be afraid of big numbers, but Fubuki rejects them outright.

>> No.44413026

>>44412842
good. nijimales need to not do as well as expected, and if that means stealing their viewers then so be it

>> No.44413029

>>44412842
makes sense, since we already know our Tempus boys stole all their viewers kek

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44413047

>>44412947
>>44413026

>> No.44413058

>>44412996
>M-muh parasocial
Oh fuck off. Hex is a goddamn piece of shit but instantly jumping to PARASOCIAL BAD is so annoying

>> No.44413061

>>44412837
Anon people got into hololive for Japanese's culture the fact the en branch 3D debut had the requirement of at least two Japanese's guests for numbers show that en at best are used as ads for japan.

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44413060

>>44412909
There is a lot like this, if you want more go there yourself

>> No.44413084

>>44412996
It's funny how hated Hex is

>> No.44413091

>>44413047
It's always around this time huh

>> No.44413112

>>44412996
So this is the type of fan that tempiss is attracting. Literal redditors

>> No.44413128

>>44412973
Coping hoshiyomi...Suisei isn't the beautiful diva you thought she was...

>> No.44413169

>>44413060
>parasocial boogeyman
I already hate them

>> No.44413183

>>44412842
Yes, that aligns with the definitive observation of this thread's top scientists that Tempus stole all the NijiEN fans. Good to see the work of our top minds validated once more.

>> No.44413196

>>44412687
Subaru must be very athletic. It ain't easy doing the leg levering with completely extended legs.

>> No.44413238

>Tempus stole fans who don't watch streams
Neato

>> No.44413240

>>44413060
>muh parasocial
jesas

>> No.44413258

>>44412842
Not surprising, Vesper could b e telling Magni to abort his butt babies he had with Towa and it would still be drama-free when compared to NijiEN

>> No.44413287

Why are people here so rude? Can't have a single discussion without someone sperging and cursing your next 100 generations?

>> No.44413315

>>44412927
not even a deadbeat but shuba is at least 1 head taller than mio as you can see on that okayu's stream

>> No.44413328
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44413328

>>44413027
>but Fubuki rejects them outright.
She does not, that's not it. Here is something very few people realized
>Fubuki has the SECOND HIGHEST number of streams in 2022 for her branch, trailing only Koyori
Fubuki is the embodiment of what Coco (and later, notCoco) said to be her ultimate goal in the vtuber world: she streams whatever she wants, and with the express purpose of having fun.

Sometimes having fun is the ABSURDLY HIGH "akai naaa" streams, or the "gambling club" streams.
Sometimes it is obsessively playing FF14 in front of an increasingly diminished audience.
>and sometimes it's both in the same day
Fubuki does what Fubuki does because it pleases her.

>> No.44413342

>>44413047
nijinigger

>> No.44413346

>>44413287
I don't know what you're referring to specifically, but in general you have to learn to mentally filter schizos and shitposters to get to the reasonable discussion in this thread.
We're in a busy period so the ratio of shit is higher than normal

>> No.44413363

>>44413058
Watching vtubers is basically not parasocial because of the existence of the chatbox.

>> No.44413421

>>44413287
You're in the Mongolian basket weaving forum, my good sir.
What do you expect.

>> No.44413425

>>44413287
Welcome to 4chan. Be glad this place is one of the meekest mildest ones in the site (and a blue board too), otherwise it wouldn't be just words scarring your mind

>> No.44413477

>>44413287
Kill yourself sapling

>> No.44413499

>>44413287
>someone sperging and cursing your next 100 generations
thats a good thing
I wish we could say the words that prevent the normalfags to post too

>> No.44413513

>girl ive been watching is now on a 5 day break
>EN still isnt back online
garbage

>> No.44413565

Saplings run this thread.

>> No.44413573

>pls watch tempiss

>> No.44413574

Why are nijiEn fags so depressed and pitiful now? No I won’t pity them but this just sad now

>> No.44413578

>>44412837
Given they actually went through and pulled a couple of RIM's older covers for a while, and I'm not 100% sure they're all back, I do believe they're properly licensed because Kami Studios is an actually competent record label and knows who to talk to, because if they didn't they would be exposed to the same legal liabilities of a copyright strike that Cover would be for publishing a cover without appropriate licensing, which is why Cover took down FBK's See You Again and Scatman meme videos rather then just giving up the revenue. The problem is that Cover, and the talent who is depending on management, assumes things are difficult when it's actually just their incompetence and inexperience. You can look at numerous examples when it comes to music, ranging from Sora talking about how it took management 6 months to clear her songs for the classic opera stream she did to how they're forbidden to sing Disney despite them being licensed as domestic works in JASRAC, to the every changing guidelines for what's acceptable for unarchived karaoke like when Mumuei was doing her Hot Topic emo and couldn't sing most of the popular artists.

Hell, the fact that they continue to do unarchived karaoke and let all those views bleed to the clippers rather then setting up a blanket licensing agreement with the notable record companies, many of which have either a Japanese arm or are owned by a Japanese company to smooth out any language barriers, is also equally retarded but that one actually would take proactive work which I know far better then to expect from Cover while the rest is just following in the establish paths and shouldn't be too much to ask.

>> No.44413584
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44413584

GET FUCKED YOU DUMB BIRD BITCH

>> No.44413585

>>44412996
I told you guys before, but Tempiss literally has all the fans who anti the girls and screech about parasocial & coombaiting constantly.

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>the official hololive english channel has 3 streams only
>2 of them arent even for Hololive

>> No.44413633
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Sorry Enna, 1500 viewers is only for good streamers only

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Man, indie scene is something else
When are holos getting drinking mocopi zatsu

>> No.44413663

>>44413584
No kyo or Luca debuff

>> No.44413701

>>44413626
they will re-brand to the official HoloPRO channel soon enough

>> No.44413713

EIEN the new unicorn corpo?
everyone in that thread gosling for the fish girl

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>>44413626

>> No.44413723

>>44412873
would be funny to see coco shortstack

>> No.44413737

>>44413578
Didn't Mori say that Disney personally approached cover and said not to use their songs?

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>>44412539
A good complimentary piece to IRyS. IRyS is the star of EN and Fauna is a good side piece.

>> No.44413774

>>44413701
Doesn't tempus already have channel to themselves?

>> No.44413793

>>44413626
>the absolute niggers at HoloEN only had two holostar ads before finally getting around to a 3D showcase after nearly three years.
isreal...

>> No.44413795

>>44413287
the same why nijiEN is full of yabs, FREEDOM

>> No.44413855

>>44413737
Why would you listen to anything Mori says? She's retarded

>> No.44413857

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-5WhjN8yfw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-5WhjN8yfw
>My Parasitic Brain Worm Can't Possibly Be This Cute!

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>>44413767
>star of EN

>> No.44413889

>>44413737
>I doubt it
>Mori is retarded and shouldn't be trusted on behind the scenes stuff
>licensing through JASRAC means Disney could get bent if they try to make it an issue
>Disney already let them play the MC map which was full of Disney music without any issues
>Haato and Sora both have Disney songs in their archives already and no one cared

Pick your response, all of them work.

>> No.44413891

>>44413774
Yes anon but nobody cares about it or is subbed to it. The fans must just not know about Holostars, they just need to be featured in one more event or stream, just one more and then finally all the Hololive fans will come around and sub and watch them

>> No.44413895

>>44413713
they found she has no bf, also you can see how she gets blacked on her nsfw acc, so it's a win-win for them

>> No.44413915

>>44413287
Schizos run this thread

>> No.44413926

Stop shilling your inferior whores /here/.

>> No.44413935

It's interesting that the two week break from over 50% of NijiEN actually did hurt their numbers. Maybe they were right to be fearful and anxious about taking breaks. HoloEN clearly has more resiliency in that department.

>> No.44413942

>>44413889
>Disney already let them play the MC map which was full of Disney music without any issues
Didn't they have to mute the game?

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>>44413857
Is she almost finished?

>> No.44413978

>>44413942
Correct

>> No.44413987

>>44413774
just like they have their own sub-reddit but that didn't stop Cover from turning the main sub from Hololive to Hololive Production to include the males
luckily most of their content get's downvoted nowadays and they can only get upvotes if the girls are somehow involved.

>> No.44413993

Mumei LOVE! IRyS LOVE!! Gura LOVE!! Fauna LOVE!! INA LOVE!!

>> No.44413999

>>44413959
It literally says [Finale] you illiterate retard

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>>44413774
Yes, and they even use ads to boost their stuff. This thing is at 2.5M views thanks to that, which is more than their star Bettel has in his channel total.

>> No.44414016

>>44413942
They have said several times they literally can't sing Disney songs even on unarchived karaoke so I don't know what that guy is getting at

>> No.44414023

>>44413999
So thats a yes?

>> No.44414026

>>44413926
Yeah fuck off enna poster

>> No.44414069

>>44413993
Only IRyS

>> No.44414081

>>44414016
Except, I forgot who, Mori? Sang fucking High School Musical with no issue

>> No.44414095

>>44413999
That doesn't really mean much, have you seen how many [Finale Part 2] Mori has?

>> No.44414143

>>44414095
> have you seen how many [Finale Part 2] Mori has

Since when is Fauna Mori

>> No.44414148

>>44414081
Mumei said it on her gobble gobble karaoke i'm pretty sure.

>> No.44414159

>>44414000
Hahahahaha, the Joker meme, hahaaaaa, where he dances on the staircase, from 2019. Tempus is so delightfully unhinged and chaotic!

>> No.44414187

>>44414016
Cover being retarded doesn't mean Disney gives a fuck. Here's Aki singing Disney in an archived stream from forever ago.

https://youtu.be/aXsMhy948No?t=3542

>> No.44414193

>>44413328
>Fubuki is the embodiment of what Coco (and later, notCoco) said to be her ultimate goal in the vtuber world: she streams whatever she wants, and with the express purpose of having fun.
Unfortunately, that's not really possible for Coco or really most of Hololive since they're all closeted numberfags. Even debuffson is a numberfag but she wants lower numbers so she debuffs herself to high heavens. Pretty much that one weird dude who pops into a discussion just to say; "I don't care and you shouldn't either". FBK and Mr.Koro are above that bullshit now. They play what they want and that audience is just their for the ride.

>> No.44414197

>>44413513
Rrat's back today bro.

>> No.44414202

>>44414026
Your oshi is better than Enna, but it does not change the fact that your oshi is an inferior whore.

>> No.44414242

>>44414187
>forever ago
The point we're making is at some point disney told cover to fuck off

>> No.44414245

>>44413578
>which is why Cover took down FBK's See You Again and Scatman meme videos rather then just giving up the revenue
IIRC; sadly those were, alongside Haachama's infinitely superior Country Roads, casualties of their talks to license Myth's version.

The timing was too close, they might have been in conversations with the RIAA labels and they pointed out that Cover was infringing on this this and that song with the obvious overreaction and "DELETE FUCKING EVERYTHING" attitude of theirs.
>they restored Haachama's Country Roads eventually and, I believe, without securing a separate sync license, maybe with a double deal when licensing it for Myth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mB2hfFe3geg

>to how they're forbidden to sing Disney despite them being licensed as domestic works in JASRAC
I don't know about "forbidden for licensing" but more likely than not "forbidden because Disney is too overzealous". Moona got her unarchived karaoke ganked IN REAL TIME a couple of times already because of songs she even had license due to the Karafun machine and blanket license.
With youtube being a bitch about copyright strikes (which even the first leads a channel to lose permission to live stream until it clears) I understand being overzealous.

>rather then setting up a blanket licensing agreement with the notable record companies, many of which have either a Japanese arm or are owned by a Japanese company to smooth out any language barriers, is also equally retarded but that one actually would take proactive work which I know far better then to expect from Cover
Sadly, that's the one thing I expected them to excel due to the way japanese companies operate.
Just look how they tightened their ties to Square Enix, it doesn't take much.
I bet all it took was Tanigo and whoever his counterpart in that company is taking a trip to some fancy onsen in Tokyo, sniffing some coke in the midriff of a couple of courtesans baring a striking resemblance in appearance and age to Mio and Choco, laughing the high off and swearing allegiance to the local chapter of the Yakuza together.
The fact Cover didn't do this with the local Unversal (even if they share a fucking artist) or Sony (which they surely have good relations) is proof of how immature their company is.
Hell, one of the signature songs of the whole company
>Haachama's own Red Heart
up until a couple of days ago COULD NOT BE ON THE PLATFORMS because they were too dumb in the past and didn't actually had the rights to the song (similar to how Sora stuff was and maybe still is under Victor)

The EN girls aren't helping either, I doubt they REALLY REALLY want to invest lots of time and effort on singing. Maybe Kiara but, as for the rest, I don't think they consider it worth the personal effort and if the company is not providing they won't be fighting for it

>> No.44414291

>>44414159
Why are you seething? The image didn't do anything.

>> No.44414297

>>44414202
No u

>> No.44414309

>>44414016
>They have said several times they literally can't sing Disney songs even on unarchived karaoke
Wut? Moona sings Disney songs on a regular basis and I think Astel likewise

>> No.44414368

>>44414309
How many times must we go through the perms are different for different regions shit

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>>44414291
I LOVE LOVE LOVE MY WIFERyS and our daughter Sakura Miko!!!

>> No.44414383

>>44414242
No, Cover is just too lazy to deal with AI claims from the mouse since that is one thing they're very zealous about. Also, you're retarded to think that Cover wouldn't go back and purge things if it was an actual issue given they've done exactly that multiple times.

>> No.44414423

>>44413878
why are EN numbers so shit lately. Are people actually going outside, have irl events, and no longer care about supporting their oshis??

>> No.44414475

>>44414291
I'm not seething, I was just enjoying the unhinged chaotic mindbreak atmosphere of Tempus! I can't wait to watch their clips. When do they debut again?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLfxjbYNihY

>> No.44414626

>>44414193
They don't care because their jobs are secure. Fbk is the biggest vtuber corpo shill ever and she helps with behind the scenes stuff.

>> No.44414631

>>44414475
You are pathetic.
I don't even care about Tempus, but this is genuine mental illness. It's just an image. How can an image trigger you so much?

>> No.44414637

>>44414309
Didn't Moona's recent karaoke get taken down mid stream? Or was that Kaela?

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Speaking of StarsEn and numbers, I think Vesper is in for a rough ride.
With this being his first stream on this game, and considering how much it debuffed Mori, I think he might end up adding a couple of sub 2k gaming streams to his channel after this one
How many hours it took for Mori to finish this game?

>> No.44414665

>>44414631
Go back

>> No.44414726

>>44414631
That's your standard for seething?

>> No.44414735

>>44414665
???
To where, retard? That's your comeback?

>> No.44414751

>Doumo, same desu
>Wah!
>Kikkiriki!
>Konfauna
>Oh hi
>Wazzup!
>Kuroniichiwa
>HiRyS, it's IRyS
Which is the superior greeting?

>> No.44414810

>>44414245
I could be wrong, but strikes have to be manually implemented and even the SHUT IT DOWN AI that kills streams when it detects copyright material isn't a strike considering that AZKi's old DSTM was killed like 4 times in quick succession by KAF, KAF, Suise, and one of the other Kami girls, while if they actually obtain the license beforehand for the Disney stuff, especially for special events like oh, I don't know, a 3D debut, they wouldn't even risk the stream getting cut. As to Haato's song, are you sure it wasn't the fact that she hadn't sold the rights to the song to Cover ala Hologram Circus and the long delay on getting that on Spotify? I don't keep with Haachama to know if she commented on it.

I also disagree with the notion that the EN girls wouldn't love to be able to do covers of songs they love rather then being stuck with purely the weeb stuff, as evidenced by how often someone like Ame, Gura, or Mumei does unarchived karaoke vs archived. They may be weebs, but they're also basic bitches at heart. The problem is that the headache that was Country Roads, as well as the shittastic results from Cover handling the production, probably turned them off from ever trying for it again.

>> No.44414857

>>44414751
WAH

>> No.44414895

>>44414638
It looks like she took two months between her first episode and the final episode (part one)

>> No.44414963
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>>44412873
Can’t believe Gura is a Oompa Loompa…

>> No.44415050

>>44413857
What a godawful thumbnail and stream title

>> No.44415108

>>44413737
Yes, Disney contacted Cover specifically to say don’t sing our fucking songs with Part of Your World being the sole exception

>> No.44415130

>>44413585
I don't get what cover was thinking trying to attract people who hate the type of person that is their most dedicated fan

>> No.44415156

>>44414810
>that she hadn't sold the rights to the song to Cover
I think Kotonohouse held it, not Haachama nor COVER. I speculate that it was not even an official song, given that it only became the full version in 2021 while it was already her signature song since she released the "short version" in June 2020 in the same period she released lots of impromptu songs and shitposts powered by fan submitted and sampled beats melodies.

>I also disagree with the notion that the EN girls wouldn't love to be able to do covers of songs they love
That was not what I said, I suggested that they wouldn't want to invest excessive time and effort fighting for it, SPECIALLY when their relationship with their management (as recently disclosed by Kiara) is already at
>blow deadlines and don't even bother informing
level of disrespect which suggests management and the girls aren't in sync anymore.

>> No.44415200

>>44406421
Another day, another HoloGold
Feels good to be a HoloChad

>> No.44415227

>>44415108
Can you get a timestamp? That would put this part to rest

>> No.44415256

Man every time i see post from the type of Vtuber fans that Ethyria/Vshoujo/Luxiem/Noctix/Tempus brought in all i can think is how toxic and annoying they are in comparison to the fans of Myth/Council/IRyS and Lazulight and Obsydia

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>>44414638
Lots

>> No.44415334
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Whats this?

>> No.44415360
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>>44414638
>>44415263 (me)
But Bae played it as well and she managed to finish it faster, so maybe Mori was just bad at this

>> No.44415366

AZKi Zankyosanka is dangerous for my dick jesas

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>> No.44415382

>>44415334
wait, that's the other company Asmongold is involved in

>> No.44415411

>>44415156
>The EN girls aren't helping either, I doubt they REALLY REALLY want to invest lots of time and effort on singing.
This is the part I disagree with since I think at least some of them would be happy to put the time into learning and singing a cover if that was all they had to do, but I agree with you that they're not going to fight, push, endrun, or otherwise pressure management for it because as you say, the relationship they have with management is fucking terrible and unlike permissions seeking, this can't be laid solely at the feet of management itself but instead is both sides being dysfunctional which I doubt is going to get better.

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>>44415334
There's a lot of talent agencies that streamers sign to. These agencies typically get them sponsorships.
Looking at it, it looks like this is the talent agency that the OTK streamers are signed to

>> No.44415458

>>44415366
Yeah, she's really good with songs like that

>> No.44415484

>>44415263
>2.7k
Holy shit, what is Mori's lowest ever CCV on a stream? Non SC reading

>> No.44415485

>>44415334
>Whats this?
Dumb North American vtubers are signing into LA based "talent agencies". Even Ironmouse did (or was it Nyanners?) even being signed with VShojo.
That's the fastest way to go from
>independent entrepreneur
to
>part of some Weistein horizontal harem

>> No.44415529

>>44415452
>>44415485
So its basically nothing

>> No.44415552

>>44415411
>which I doubt is going to get better.
It could EASILY get better in a single day
>HQ fires the whole EN management including all personal managers except the ones the girl hand pick, replace with all fresh blood

>> No.44415562

>>44415485
>>44415452
>Insult idols
>While going for authentic idol experience yourself
Sugoi

>> No.44415567

>>44415263
>>44415360
>Bea got better numbers on the same game as Mori
The hell? Is not labeling the stream by numbers that big of a buff?

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>>44415334
>everyone's favorite orca
Fake news.

>> No.44415627

>>44415562
is the orca in the "shit on hololive" camp? never gave me that idea

>> No.44415628

Why couldn't holos end up going for PinocchioP instead...

>> No.44415637

>>44415567
Mori played it on JP primetime

>> No.44415644

Close to our time in divegrass, second game in groups, playing against skynet.

>> No.44415656

>>44415529
Nah I wouldn't say it's exactly nothing. Like the other anon said, these agencies are like some weinstein harem shit.

It probably means shylily is going after the bag, will be getting bigger sponsorships and probably be involved in more twitch events.

>> No.44415683

>>44415627
I don't think she has ever interacted with or talked about Hololive

>> No.44415691

>>44415644
How many bings and bongs until that?

>> No.44415703

>>44408134
Best anime purchase I have ever made.

>> No.44415705

>>44415552
I don't trust any of EN to pick out actually competent managers who'll hold them to deadlines and pressure them to keep making content in return for doing everything in their power to make making content as painless as possible, so that actually wouldn't work for anyone but maybe Mori.

>> No.44415713

>>44415562
This isn't an idol thing. It's hollyjew shit

>> No.44415716
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ITS TIME
We play up next for the /vt/ League 4!

>https://isthisliv.com/4cc/stream.html
>https://isthisliv.com/4cc/stream.html
>https://isthisliv.com/4cc/stream.html

A win sees us through to the playoffs for the first time!

>> No.44415726

>>44415683
>kobo is not hololive

>> No.44415731 [DELETED] 

Recommend me some girls to anti

>> No.44415740

Our game is up. /manstars/ is knocked out if we don't lose

>> No.44415777

>>44415567
This was peak debuff mori when 90% of her content was playing valhalla and live a live at JP hours

>> No.44415836

It kinda funny seeing all of this western talent agencies getting caught with pants down with how globally popular Vtubing as become so their now scrambling to sigh as many well known indies as possible

>> No.44415844

>>44415691
5 maybe. depending on the victory anthem for pcg.

>> No.44415877

>>44415740
We're going to lose arent we

>> No.44415886

>>44415567
Bae was the first one to play it and she also reacted harder to the crude humor

>> No.44415912

>>44415716
>Literally against bots

>> No.44415972

>>44415716
Win faggots so stars is out

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>>44415334
go orcat go!

>>44415562
>Insult idols
no?

>>44415627
she has said it's not for her, but has interacted publicly (and got interacted back) with kobo, even made a message for her birthday

>> No.44416002

>>44415656
Shylily’s problem for the longest time is that she was more or less excluded from twitch circles. Signing up to this org means she’ll at least get to participate.

>> No.44416130

>>44415227
I’m pretty sure it was a members only unarchived but if you search Disney in the archives you should be able to find when

>> No.44416135

>>44408113
He addressed the NTR?

>> No.44416175

>>44416002
Isn't being excluded from these circles a good thing all around?

>> No.44416283

>>44416175
Not if you’re trying to get into those circles. Twitch is incesteous as fuck and you need an in with them to start getting invited to events.

>> No.44416286

>>44415716
>11 watching on youtube
>430 users on cytube which is iframeing youtube
So you're telling me this stream is culled too?

>> No.44416311

>>44416175
on twitch when viewership&incline boils down to sheep herding between channels it's a struggle being left out of tournaments/events or host-raid receiver candidate list.

>> No.44416335

FBK...

>> No.44416360

>>44416286
Youtube won't count embeds unless the party embedding goes to extreme lengths to make it work

>> No.44416385

>>44415731
who's your oshi?

>> No.44416418

>>44416335
what happened to foobs?

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aie this form of the bench

>> No.44416474

Typed Hololive Disney into search to see if I can find something and find Hololive delving into pol. Sad days ahead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6P2fo3Kujk

>> No.44416482

bots

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>> No.44416490

DAMN IRYS!
>Skynet 1 nil
We're getting shellacked, arent we?

>> No.44416501

Too early

>> No.44416519

uhm... What the fuck?

>> No.44416520

it's over already

>> No.44416583

>>44414637
Kaelas Membership Karaoke was taken down mid stream but if I recall Moona was having similar issues during one of hers

>> No.44416606

Test

>> No.44416700

>most influental jobber

>> No.44416701

Man, imagine that instead of doing NijiEN things Finana decided to stick with music, Tsunami is still the best song from that mess of a branch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i_TLQsaAgU

>> No.44416788
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44416788

Closing in on 800k views soon, probably by the time morning comes in like 12 hours

>> No.44416876

>>44416701
You think she still has enough money to pay Kira for a 2nd song?

>> No.44416921

>>44416283
>>44416311
It's still incredible to me that she's the top EN indie along with Shoto, who had to leech Luxiem to reach that level.

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