/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Does Nijisani not have a site like Holopoi? VNUMA is too inaccurate, I'm not how they're always missing most viewed by like a couple of thousand.

>>4505299
Don't believe so. It probably wouldn't take much work to just fork HoloStats codebase and make a Nijisanji equivalent site.

>>4505052
>manjisanji's big hyped tournament mogged and btfo by 4 autists playing Mario Party
Just resign already, lmao

>>4505967
>It probably wouldn't take much work to just fork HoloStats codebase and make a Nijisanji equivalent site.
While HoloStats does have better accuracy for lives, it doesn't fully track VODs individually, sadly enough.

>>4506338
It's not that bad, right?

When will NijiEN beat HoloEN?

>>4506556
well Marine wasn't streaming alone either

>>4505052
Towacraft numbers surprised me even when I saw it live. WTF happened? I didn’t see any impromptu collab that could boost it this high. Or was it on an earlier segment that I missed?

>>4506658
Never. They're all failures.

>>4506790
Usadaken MC stream.
Pekora buff is nothing to mess with.

>>4506790
She met Rushia on stream

>>4506783
why is iofi such a failure looking at her numbers makes me want to vomit in disgust

>>4506790
Any Minecraft stream where people are working for Usaken gets massive numbers. Coco is gonna crush it too in a few hours.
Summer Festival will be massive when it actually happens

>>4506338
wait, that thing was a tournament?

>>4507204
Filthy fujo gets what she asks for

>>4507247
It was a full JP talent tournament, yes.

>>4507217
Oh my, I hope EN and ID2 can participate as guests.

>>4507311
bruh.

>>4507204
Because she refuses to do things that people like, such as play Minecraft.

>>4507143
She was already 12k when she chatted up Rushia. I caught that part.
>>4507031
>>4507217
If thats true, Pekora singlehandedly lifting up the entirety of hololive is no fucking joke. Guess will check Coco numbers if she receives a similar buff. It would be surprising to find her channel in this thread without the meme review boost

>>4506790
She got pretty much the same numbers on her previous Usaken festival prep stream. MC by itself is already a pretty big boost for any holo, attach Pekora's name to that and you can't fail.

>>4506658
Waste of space indie tier vtubers. I won't be surprised if Niji is planning on saturating the market with a 100 more.

>>4507461
She got them SE and Capcom permissions by shilling their games hard.

>>4506556
When Kuzuha is involved all the other men in mansanji get a debuff.

>>4507204
Risu don't be rude, you're not doing that much better

The Millions

>Gura keeps accelerating
wtf

>>4508194
Gura is a monster

>>4508503
No, she is a shark.

>>4508554
A monster shark

>>4508194
>>4508503
shes well versed in how to get the algo to shill her. a consummate professional, soon to be GOAT

>>4505052
My god not even I expected kanatan to be INCLINING this much today

>>4508773
>Heimins are numberfags now.

>>4508194
>say a
>thousand of spergs rushing to sub to le cute anime girl
something something youtube algorithm

>>4505052
>beating your goal in less than 20 minutes
tfw you succeed so fast that you couldn't build up your live viewers enough to beat senchou today

>>4509141
that img literally represents gura

>>4509221
fuck I wish I knew how to paint her hoodie

>>4507802
Uhhh No. Because his viewers are not those other guys' audience anyway. When these events happen I know I'll be watching Kuzuha because I only watch him and I am not at all interested in watching someone else. Others were never an option to begin with.

>>4507341
It'll be a fucking crime if their managers don't give them at least a little push to reach out and participate in such a big event, at least as audience if nothing else.

>>4505052
Manjisanji

>>4509515
Proving my point exactly. Kuzuha overshadows every male in Niji. When kuzuha streams, that's who everyone watches. I highly doubt his apex audience of regards would be interested in a bomberman tournament. They barely even watch him when he plays Valorant.

>>4505052
Sc totals ?

Quick question. Let just say that the upcoming nijisanji apex tournament beat gura’s record. Who the fuck are you going to credit it to? The nijisanji main channel? So if some one ask you who beat gura, you are going to respond with “the nijisanji main channel”? Wouldn’t that be retarded? Last time you can still credit Maimoto, an actually vtuber but now?

>>4505052
Some observations

1. Four Holo members playing Mario Party beats out a massive Nijisanji event. Not a good sign for Niji

2. Pekora is super strong as usual. I still remember when there was actually a debate on if her or Kuzuha was bigger. Now it's not even a contest and Pekora has absolutely rocketed past Kuzuha

3. Seems Hololive numbers in general are inclining. Very good performances from Kanata and Rushia

4. Elite Miko continues to be amazingly consistent and has been getting 15k + no matter what she has been doing lately. Her consistently high level performance combined with her long streaming hours are why she usually ranks #2 behind Pekora on those hours watched charts even if she doesn't hit the peaks that Marine or Gura hit.

>>4509795
If he isn't streaming we don't go to somebody else, we simply don't watch. So in that sense it isn't a 'debuff' for the others as there is no potential 'buff' coming from Kuzuha's audience, at least not from the ones who are actually interested in just him and aren't randoms looking for something to watch.

>>4509896
you credit Detonator

>>4509896
>"It took an entire agency, plus outside help, just so that they could retake their record!"
kek

A win is a win though, bigger number is a bigger number irrespective of channel.

>>4509973
talk for yourself, I watch more niji males than Kuzuha

https://playboard.co/en/youtube-ranking/most-superchatted-all-channels-in-japan-monthly
>190k viewers
>Still mogged in SC
Are chumkeks poor?

>>4510015
Then you are not a Kuzuha fan, you just like VTubers (or Nijisanji, I don't know you). I wasn't talking about people like you.

>>4510057
>you are not his fan if you dont watch only kuzuha
take your meds

>>4509896
As Holochads there is no way we can lose here and it's a win for us either way and I'll tell you why. This is the script that all fellow Holochads should follow when discussion of the numbers come up for this apex event.

>If it does NOT surpass Gura
This one is obvious. We mock them and rub it in their face. Pretty open and shut, easy

>If it does surpass Gura
This one is also an easy win for us Holochads. In this situation we simply say that Nijisanji was so ass blasted by their previous record getting broken that they had to organize the entire vtuber and professional gamer world just to take down one smol cunny shark. This will flip it around to actually being a negative for Nijisanji.

We just can't stop winning Holochads.

>>4510007
But how are you going to answer if someone ask you who beat gura? Are you seriously going to tell me that you would answer “the nijisanji main channel”?

is kuzuha like the niji equivalent of gura where he has a lot of fans that just don't really care about the rest of the holos, or is he like aqua where he just never collabs with anyone else so there's no reason for the audience to spread

it seems like he should be able to spread a boost around like pekora does but it doesn't look like that happened with the apex thing

>>4509896
it's still going to be a nijisanji record retard

>>4510141
Yes. Now let "the whole of Niji vs the retarded shark girl" arc begin.

>>4510157
I was asking who are you going to credit retard, as in an individual not as a company. I know the record will belong to nijisanji if they win but I am asking you how you would answer the question of who beat gura.

>>4510120
There's nothing wrong with not being his fan, anon, you can be a casual watcher of his or simply someone who likes VTubers. The label of fan/kachiku just doesn't apply to you, and that's okay. Maybe you should take your meds instead if you see it as a problem.

>>4510210
You have balls anon. I would be too ashamed to pull that kind of answer even if I am anonymous on this board.

>>4510226
The agency, you fucking retard. The agency take the record.

>>4510226
Serious question.......are you retarded?

>>4510044
No, just very young.

>>4510269
nah, you are just another retard fanboy, take your meds and go back

>>4509973
This is a tournament. And in a tournament the average viewer has the tendency of watching/keeping an eye on the most interesting person there, and that's Kuzuha. The numbers speak for themselves anon-chama.

>>4510044
Chumkidz live in poverty.

>>4510057
This guy thinks he can decide who is a fan and who not lol

I wish the viewer geographical data was public; I know most Hololive streams have the edge because of overseas audiences, but I wonder how many streams have more Japs watching than Nijisanji streams

>>4510415
just substract those percentages >>4456947

>>4510275
>>4510287
You are guys retarded? So if someone ask you which vtuber has the record of highest live viewers, you deadass would answer “the nijisanji main channel”? You can seriously handle that second hand embarrassment of an answer?

>>4508814
A larger fanbase has more diversity.
At the current growth rate, it wouldn't be long before we are getting toxic autistic heimins.

>>4510563
everything counts as long as it is for Nijisanji

>>4510357
>>4510410
You guys seem to be hurt by me making a distinction between 'fan' and 'watcher'. I'm sorry if it bothers you but words mean things. I don't expect people on here to understand though.
>>4510366
I never said he didn't have any casuals watching him... I just don't think his simple presence is a 'debuff' for the other participants.

>>4510612
This guy is kinda special

>>4510612
you are just mentally ill but its ok

>>4509221
Yea, Pekora actually loves her growing traction. I bet she masturbates on her VUNMA number before she starts streaming.

>>4509896
This is a sign of desperation from Nijisanji. Borrowing viewers is pretty pethatic. And considering the guests will be pro players, I won't be surprised when their fanbase of kids end up shitting up the place. If this tournament fails, and I'm not talking numbers wise, but if it fails to be an actual competent and balanced tournament. Then this will be an embarrassing blow for Niji.

>>4510563
The agency is a VTuber agency. It is tracked and ranked along with the individual VTubers and features VTubers of their roster. Since they're counted as part of the VTubing industry, then yes, they hold the record. If Hololive had chosen to host the SportFes last year on their own channel only and had set the record back then, then they would be named as the holder for the VTuber broadcast record. The same as if it were a live concert.

>>4509990
No, you don't, when it's a tournament literally funded by Nijisanji.

>>4509896
I just want to see big numbers. Doesn't matter who made it.

>>4510126
>Entire vtuber and gamer
>Only two agencies outside of Nijisanji, most vtubers are from nijisanji

>>4510415
why should I care how many nips are viewing them anyways?

>>4510675
It's a sign of desperation from Nijisanji because they are doing tournaments and events.. like they have been doing every single year? Have some perspective even if you are shitposting. kek

>>4510476
Not every watcher comments on chat, so you can't get accurate numbers just based on that chart.

>>4510126
fuck off with the tribalism. Not your personal army. Bring some formulas to estimate the peak viewers of the events or post some graphs. A larger peak means that the vtubing industry still has rooms to grow. If you have nothing to contribute, then keep lurking.

>>4510274
I don't care about this tribalshit BS, I just wanna see big numbers, and the bigger the better. I want Susan to hate us for turning her precious media site into a 2D waifu paradise.

>>4511081
>b-but tribalism
argument automatically ignored, go back, ESL

>>4510126
The same will go from Nijisanji perspective
>If it does NOT surpass Gura
It was just one more tournament, it was just as expected and it was a successful event.

>If it does surpass Gura
Nijisanji has the record for the highest concurrent vtuber stream, named just like that and go place it on their web page.

>>4509896
Not gonna happen. Apex is on its way out, it doesn't pull the numbers it used to anymore, and Nijisanji has harshly reclined. I'll be VERY surprised if the event manages to gather above 100k people

>>4505052
Is Nyanners inclining? She seems close to overtaking Gura.

>>4510814
Fuck off. The one who should have perspective is you nijifag. People are already getting tired of nijipex. That stigma will only grow stronger if this tournamentt ends up becoming a success. I hope it fails. Why you might ask? Because out of the top 25 most watched vtubers in may, only 3 are from Nijisanji. And guess what, all three of em are Apexfaggots. Kuzuha, Kanae and chihiro. Shame.

>>4511371
HAL's tournament got 110k, so this event should get at least 100k. 150k is a realistic peak viewership, but if they can bring sn4, shaka, or kato for the last spot, then 200k peak is not impossible.

>>4508194
marry susan already gura...

>>4511340
This is what nijibro's wanked off to every night before bed.

>>4511746
>This was what nijibro's wanked off to every night before bed.
ftfy

>>4509969
Elite Stable Miko Maou Baby FAQ Goddess.

>>4512154
Post some numbers and formulas if you want to banter, anonchama. Any future events you want to tallk about besides apex? Roboco vs Fuwa maybe?

>>4512608
that's one embarrassing post, tourist

>>4512608
Just realized that was actually a misquote.
Speaking of future events, isnt Nene's 3D Live scheduled on the same date as the tournament?

>>4511871
i got second hand embarrassment whenever i look at this picture

>>4505052
>FBK, once the flagship of Hololive, now barely above a newbie
Gen1 bros....

Holobronies really let Niji live rent free in their head don't they

>>4512777
>i got second hand embarrassment whenever i look at this picture
Well to be fair, they probably had no idea that they had to take down those banners in less than a year.

>>4512866
Lamy-san is almost completing one year in hololive, you cant call her a newbie anymore

>>4511196
Big numbers good

>>4511196
>2D waifu paradise
Then you should be joining us in hoping for the demise of manjisanji. They dared to introduce males into our 2D waifu paradise and they deserve to pay the price for it.

>>4512771
Yes, they are.

Apex party - 6pm (JST)
Nene's 3D live - 8pm (JST)

Nene's 3D debut was at 8pm, too. And she had 92k peak viewers. I think she should get at least 60k since Apex's crowds don't overlap too much with Holo's crowds. Maybe even 90k if Nene would be having guests.

>>4507311
>full JP talent
No it wasn’t
Also I’d say it did good given there was no announcement/set up stream and next to zero hype leading up to it since hardly anyone practiced on stream for it

>>4510057
Why are people responding to this obvious bait.

>gura is the top vtuber
>gets mogged by kuzuchad
C-chumkeks?

>>4513483
I am not baiting though.
I just dont like all this tribalist BS throwing insults everywhere.

>>4505052
Kaneki kun...

>>4513325
I will watch Nene because Apex doesn't interest me. Hologirls will probably promote her a lot because people actually like her. I don't know what the projections will be but I am hoping she gets atleast 50k. Her live performance last time was one of the most competent out of all the holos and it gave a really good impression about her. This live 3D will tell us two things, how many JPs will show up to go crazy about an FPS game and how many Overseas and JPs will go crazy for an "Idol." This will be a good gauge for Hololive on what they can focus on during their live events because we know they are on a hiring spree to hire professionals to handle their live events. Their concerts are probably their most profitable money maker.

>>4513884
I don’t care about whatever point you were trying to make but you’re retarded and have a twisted understanding of what the word fan means.
I’m his fan and in most cases I prioritize his streams (which I think is normal when you have a favorite) but I still watch others when he’s not streaming because I also like others.

A vtuber having a larger viewerbase than others doesn’t make them a “debuff”. A lot of people have a favorite or two whose POV(s) they’ll usually decide to watch over others during a collab. It’s not like those people jump to Pekora’s stream in those cases just because.

>>4510612
Yeah yeah, now take ur meds

>>4514096
Depend on situation, live concert used to has lower viewers than 3d debut especially solo. Aqua is special case because she already has a decent fanbase and her concert is really well prepared. Other concert usually have below 50k viewers if its a solo concert. If there is a big event at the same time the concert will get debuff. Latest Apex tournament debuff all Hololive that their viewer drop 5k to 10k than normal. So i think if Nene doing a solo concert at the time of Nijiapex she would get about 30k viewers.

>>4515248
I'ts not even that the large-viewerbase-chuuba is the debuff for the smaller one, but more about how the chuuba herself acts on the collab that people just opts out.

>>4505052
Is Kanata really incline? She droped 10k viewers right after Miko and Pekora start streaming.

Is this Nijisanji general ?

>>4519622
Kanata went to SC readings around the time Pekora started.

More shocking thing is Suisei making it top 20 for RE7.

>>4519622
The stream was a one-hour challenge for creating a Pekora avatar on miitopia. At 21:00 JST, when Peko and Miko were starting, she played the ED for her stream and urged the viewers to go watch Pekora. What came after that was essentially supacha reading with a little buff because she kept working on the final details of the avatar even after the main portion of the stream had technically ended. If she'd kept going normally she'd probably still lose a lot of viewers, but I'd wager she'd hang around above the 15k mark.

>>4508194
GAS GAS GAS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lcOyt_403U

>Moona making it to top 20 due to collab (nice)
>Subaru collabing with ids in general recently
is she getting ready for an EN collab soon?

BOW DOWN HOLOSHITTERS

>>4520371
how many days to 3M?

>>4507217
Lol delusional pekokekfag

>>4505052
Another day with Kanata in the top, nice

Well, after seeing Niji's latest tournament, I don't think Niji will be able to break 100k anymore. 80k for next 3D debut, 90k for Apex tournament.

Was Mori's Roki the fastest vtuber cover in general to reach a million views? I know it was the fastest in Hololive by about half a day.

>>4521937
Cover, yes
Song, no. That would be Off With Their Heads

Who has highest members per subscribers ratio?

>>4522253
Even higher than Ayame's Goodbye Sengen?

>>4522948
About 14 hours faster.

Off With Their Heads (Mori Calliope) - 45 hours
Roki (Mori Calliope) - 2 Days (0h 26m)
Goodbye Sengen (Nakiri Ayame) - 2 Days (14h 51m)
Can You Do the Hololive? (All members) - 3 Days
Hololive Ochame Kinou (All members) - 3 Days
RIP (Mori Calliope) - 5 Days
KING (Nakiri Ayame) - 5 Days
Goodbye Sengen (Minato Aqua) - 5 Days
KING (Hoshimachi Suisei) - 5 Days
Red (Mori Calliope) - 6 Days
Peko Miko War (Miko and Pekora) - 6 Days
Sorairo Days (Matsuri and Gura) - 7 Days
Mogu Mogu Yummy! (Nekomata Okayu) - 10 Days
Ghost (Hoshimachi Suisei) - 11 Days
DEAD BEATS (Mori Calliope) - 13 Days
Saga Jihen (Suisei & 3rd Gen) - 13 Days
Live Again (Mori Calliope) - 14 Days
Ahoy (Houshou Marine) - 15 Days
Take Me Home, Country Roads (HoloEN) - 15 Days
Palette (Tokoyami Towa) - 15 Days
Shitsuraku Petri (Nekomata Okayu) - 16 Days
KING (Pavolia Reine) - 17 Days
KING (Murasaki Shion) - 19 Days
Envy Baby (Omaru Polka) - 19 Days
Usseewa (Murasaki Shion) - 20 Days
VILLAIN (Moona Hoshinova) - 20 Days
Aikotoba III (Kiara and Gura) - 21 Days
FLOS (Nekomata Okayu) - 21 Days
Ranbu no Melody (Hoshimachi Suisei) - 21 Days
RED HEART (Akai Haato) - 23 Days
HINOTORI (Takanashi Kiara) - 23 Days
Alice in N.Y (Sora, Kanata, Suisei, Marine, Flare) - 28 Days
KING (Tokoyami Towa) - 28 Days
Cursed Night (Mori Calliope) - 29 Days

>>4522919
Membership is not public information, but iirc some anon here tried to compile each unique chat in Member streams and found Gura has the most (unique and active) memberships

But this is still flawed because: a) it's likely a member watched a stream but didn't chat and b) some members did not catch the stream

>>4509018
> Chuuba I like is inclining
Because she is a hard worker and very talented.
> Chuuba I don’t like is inclining
Something something algorithm.

>>4523417
You could also add the all purpose
>something something buff game
>something something debuff game

>>4523243
>14 hours faster
Holy shit

>>4523243
Mori is fucking formidable, huh

32 hours left

>>4505299

Just use playboard

>>4511871
Let's be fair, no one thought HoloLive would take off like it did and how it did it. Holomems didn't either, most stayed on at first because they had a salary. Also Hololive JP is only ahead by 4 million subs compared to Nijisanji so the gap isn't big.

>>4511871
Roa... Gibara...

Gura's birthday is in a few weeks. How much views do you think she gets after birthday call-ins, suprise dante/vergil shout out, fan cards, karaoke, merch announcements and dropping an original album afterwards?

>>4526377
Knowing Gura, she might hold a small and conservative celebration, promote some merchs and that's it.

>>4508194
She reached critical mass a long time ago. The more people there is, the more people she will draw. It's a fucking black hole desu

>>4520630
I KNEEL TO LATINX CHUUBAS
HOLO ES WHEN?

>>4526377
I bet most of her fans will try to tune in.
I don’t expect much from Gura and Cover but I will buy whatever her merchs are.

Every EN tuber seems to be reclining right now while the JP ones are inclining. Probably something to do with the pandemic still.

>>4526033
>32 members against 105
>still ahead by 4M subs
yeah, thats a big gap

>>4527009
next year?

>>4511604
I'm not going to lose my time with imbeciles like you who are tribalists.

>>4527298
103

>>4523243
Mori is fucking strong

>>4526033
>4 million subs

Oh ONLY 4 million subs huh

>>4529957
Inevitable so. Even if it's a bunch of raps, she's still the only hololiver who regularly releases songs. And in english, no less.

>>4511871
Post the revised one

>>4529957
>>4529999
She is, she has the same drive as suisei at the time when she transferred to main holo branch.

>>4508194
Will Gura kill herself if she got to 3m before AI?
Can she handle the pressure?

>>4526377
Based of Ina's merch, Gura's merch would cost prob around $200. I'ma save up a bit from today til then.

Shion yo...
https://streamable.com/5wxeul

>>4530201
Gura streams with her numbers turn off or hidden. so she'll ignore it again, but her gen mates will remind and push her to celebrate or something. I hope she would sing her original songs. Her singing has improved a lot since her debut.

>>4511746
Festival playing Apex with some literal who m*le again... why are you killing your career like this...

>>4527066
Vshojo is inclining

>>4530201
It's impossible to kill yourself while playing Skyrim.

>>4530201

yes gura told me confidence that she will hang herself in her bdsm suit from the ceiling

>>4510152
Option A, he's known primarily for Apex and has alot of fans who tune in only for Apex and not much else.

>>4505052
>Towasame doing good
I rike

Today's number?

>>4538429
still too many streams from yesterday that havent completed 24hrs yet. Few more hours

>>4510657
That's fucking hot

>>4538537
Aight thx

Numberfagging is fun and all but, why does no one mentions Pekora when talking about beating the nijisanji Apex number? Why when it comes to this it is Gura but normally people like to shit on her when comparing to Pekor??

>>4544213
because she rarely collabs and there`s no new outfit or 3D in the near horizon for her. UsaKen stuff is usually hosted on multiple channels, but maybe if she hosted a Gen3 offcollab? But that would be more likely to reach 100k than 200k.

>>4544213
Because Gura single-handedly beat Maimoto's sponsored Japanese national sport stream. Let alone set the peak record for the industry, Pekora has yet to even pass the record Miko had for Hololive until Gura passed it. Pekora is good for consistent viewership though, so she has that at least.

>>4532382
anon she semi regularly collabs with holostars. Anyone who is a matsurisu accepts this.

>>4544213
Pekora delivers high number consistently. She brings at least 20k while Gura brings at least 14k, but in terms of upper limit, Gura has a higher upper limit than Pekora (190k vs 130k), so if you want a consistent performer, put your money on the bunny girl. If you want to break the record on rare occasions, put your money on Gura. Blue autists are strong.

>>4545176
Any reason for such a thing? Logically, one with consistently higher number should be one with higher upper limit

>>4545282
Read the thread anon. Someone already explained why that might be the case.

>>4545282
Read >>4489316

Worldwide Anglocentric numbers > concentrated Japanocentric numbers

>>4545491
What's the point of the comparison I read all the time then if this is the reason

>>4545791
A rising tide lifts all boats

>>4545282
People remember that she exists sometimes since she has a lot of subs, but she can't keep a consistent viewership since she's not entertaining. Gura's fate is to keep reclining into irrelevance.

>>4545491
This is cope. English Twitch streamers with a similar amount of followers get way more live viewers than her.

>>4546364
Notice that I didn't say that applies to Gura or Pekora. From a language standpoint, speaking in English is more likely to garner a larger viewership than people speaking in Japanese. Go look for the live viewership records in Playboard for locations in the Anglosphere vs Japan.

Enjoy being assblasted by your own hubris...

>>4546764
You linked a post that said she doesn't get as many live viewers because "her viewers are spread around the world" yet this would be the case for a lot of people on twitch as well. She's getting beat by Kuzuha now who has only 1/3 of her subs.

>>4547007
are you comparing total views or live viewers?

>>4547007
Okay, explain how she has more vod views then.

>>4547007
Yes, I linked the post because it explains the reason why Gura can produce retarded high numbers out of the blue, which is correct. If you have a large audience that's spread all over the world and is used to having to watch your VODs because they can't when you livesteam, then you shouldn't be surprised if an abnormally large number of them decide to take a day to catch you live on special occasions, especially so if all of those people understand your language. What is so hard to understand about this concept?

>>4547165
>more vod views than someone with 1/2 and 1/3 of her subs
As if that's a big accomplishment. Her sub to view ratio is still bad.

>>4547307
There are other reasons you're failing to take into account why she doesn't get as many live viewers, such as her being boring to watch and being shit at games.

>>4547479
>being boring to watch
nope
>being shit at games
most people don`t care, as long as she`s entertaining

>>4505052
today`s numbers update

[Bad news]Mori has passed Fubuki in sub count

>>4547816
what site is this?

>>4548360
https://vnuma.net/trend/ (hiyoko changed to this)

>>4505052
It still feels surreal, seeing Moona in numbers threads.

>>4507217
To think it all began with rapisrasuri.

>>4548761
I suspect her 3D will be even more surreal

>>4510044
They're all subscribed, that's where Goorah gets her moolah.

>>4547816
Miko pulling 19k while going right up against the big 3D collab is pretty impressive and she continues to put up strong numbers again.

>>4507341
EN are getting a portal to the JP server once they defeat the ender dragon, it's just a matter of time.....

Reading some posts in these threads and I don't know why it's so hard for people to just accept the fact that Pekora is the live views queen while Gura is the overall viewership queen. More people watch Gura than they do Pekora, they just don't watch her live as often.

>>4547850
>Bad news
You might be in the wrong place. We don't care about JP vs. EN tribalism here. We just want to see big numbers. We only care about tribalism when Nijisanji is involved since we hate them.

>>4549115
correction: we only hate specifically Manjisanji, because it`s a fujo+faggot+apexautist magnet. It needs to burn.

>>4547816
Fubuki`s been making some big hits lately huh

>>4547479
>>4547007
Twitch followers =/= Youtube subscribers. People are much less committed on YT vs Twitch. Most people are subbed to at least 10 times more channels on YT than followed to streamers on Twitch. Nyanners for instance still gains more subs on YT than followers on Twitch and its been a year since she made the switch. Furthermore, since the live viewing experience is better for most on Twitch, and the VOD viewing experience is better on YT, you're far more incentivized to watch live on Twitch and watch VODs on YT. This also happens to Pekora and Kuzuha if you compare them with Twitch streamers btw.
Also, all of Kuzuhas live viewers are, again, in the same timezone. If all of Gura's viewers spontaneously moved to the same timezone, and she made a schedule around them, she'd probably get like, 40-50k average consistently.

>>4551623
>If all of Gura's viewers spontaneously moved to the same timezone
And if pekora can speak in english she would average way more. All these are hypothetical anon. What we want are proven numbers.

>>4549597
based

>>4552091
>What we want are proven numbers.
And Gura proved she can make nearly 200,000 people come watch her show and tell. What's your point?

>>4552091
this, I dont know why some anons like to imagine hypothetical things that will never happen, specially in a number thread

>>4552091
The proven numbers are in the broken records and VOD numbers. I'm just telling you why they don't translate seamlessly into concurrent views.
>pekora can speak in english she would average way more
No she wouldn't, quite the opposite in fact. Make no mistake anon, Gura actually HAS more LIVE viewers than Pekora, just lower concurrents. When they finish streaming, the VOD views (controlling for time streamed) on Gura's streams start a lot higher than Pekoras, meaning more people actually showed up, it's just that more people left midway because the stream isn't catered to their schedule (like Pekora's are for her audience).
>All these are hypothetical anon.
My hypotheticals are just rearanging existing, proven numbers to fit the topic at hand. I'm not inventing imaginary people or switching peoples' languages out like you are.
>>4552379
Are the people here usually this retarded?

>>4526377
Would be hilarious as hell if the apex tournament beat gura’s record then a week later she took it back like nothing.

>>4552613
What other event can you think of that would beat the first ever outfit reveal of hers.

>>4552570
>Are the people here usually this retarded?
It's usually tourists, baitposters (see, mansanji) and assblasted nutsackis who like to shit up number-munching threads.

>>4526377
>Vergil
Thought it was just Dante?

>>4552613
with what?

>>4552722
Definitely the 3D debut, especially if it's a concert, since that's her forte.

>>4552091
forget it anon, you are talking with cuckbuds, they always find a way to cope

>>4552722
>>4552731
Her bday or her 3d debut.

>>4552730
No there is Dante and two Vergil messages. Seem like two different group are getting Vergil to do messages to gura, one of them is pretty cringe from what I heard but she will probably laugh at it.

>>4552856
>>4552774
Birthday won't reach that high but the 3D debut will probably do it. Can't see it happening anytime soon though, sure as hell won't be a few weeks after the apex tourney.

>>4461733
>Mori ranked below Tokyo Ghoul despite having higher numbers
Does fujos make these charts?

>>4552956
The bdays could if she hype it up like “I have a special announcement on my bday”. People will tune in assuming it is about her first original song.

>>4552786
>"forget it anon, you are talking with cuckbuds, they always find a way to cope"
>from a noufagi in the noufagi cope thread
Don't overdose now

>>4547816
Niji's doing very well. I'm not sure what the hubbub is about, they consistently have 10 in the top 25.

>>4553067
Birthday streams tend to perform lower than outfit reveals, anon.

>>4553102
they are actually kids huh, I feel bad for gura for having this kind of fanbase

>>4553032
>4 Nijis in the top 30
>24 holomems
>There are only 43 members
Some western inflation is going on.
Okay, how about japanese viewers only? That is the best metric.

>>4553184
Normal hololive trend doesn’t applied to gura and like I stated, her hyping it up could get people to tune in especially with the hint of the original song which a lot of her fans are waiting for.

>>4553203
Must be a nijikek falseflagging like always, ignore him

>>4553032
Cali's songs get a lot of views unlike her streams, similar to Suisei at #12.

>>4553203
>EOPs larping as her fans on a chilean basketweaving forum
I don't feel so good-peko

>>4553032
it`s actually true lmao, but you should expect no better from nips

>>4553258
if that's the case then Im not surprise

>>4553246
Most likely much of the same considering even fucking Roboco gets higher views than everyone else in Niji but their top 3 talents.

>>4553246

>>4553258
>>4553500
>Made-up nijinigger boogeyman
Just how many different ways do you guys have to cope here?

>>4553256
Her birthday is on Sunday, which is a prime time to stream. I think she should stream at 11 a.m. edt to maximize her viewership from the eastern hemisphere, but knowing her, the stream will most likely be at 8 p.m. edt.

>>4505052
Pink cat and Ironmouse keep inclining.

>>4553910
meds right now

>>4554208
Not him, but the whole "falseflagging Nijikek" that those two were talking about came largely out of nowhere, especially when no one was talking about Nijis in that particular conversation.

He doesn't need meds of any kind.

>>4553910
Then I actually feel bad for Gura, for having retards like you

>>4554404
not that anon but cuckbuds always need their meds

>>4554105
Just so you are aware, the list you replied to is from two days ago. Here is the one for today: >>4547816

>>4554428
Then I actually feel bad for Gura, for having retards like you

>>4532770
Is Todd a sharcunny chad?

>>4554541
Good luck with your autism kid

>>4554545
Yes

>>4547816
KANACOCO LOVE

>>4509896
EA.

>>4553121
They consistently appear on the top 25 but tribalists, shitposters and the ones who actually hate them love to troll even though only two agencies appear in there most of the time.

What are the chances of cover being retarded and have gura 3d debut on prime time jp instead of prime time US?

>>4553512
Context you fucking retard. I watch both hololive and nijisanji and Roboco is one of my favorites but her number is the same level of some of the lowest in nijisanji. She's only that high due to 2 special streams that gave her 30k viewers. Most of the times she's 1-2k.

>>4553032
who the fuck made that list?

>>4554570
>"Good luck with your autism kid"
>EOP """Nousagi"""
Are the nijiniggers in the thread with us right now?

>>4554780
Meds

>>4554719
98% chance. I don't think anyone seriously believes they can't fuck this up by doing things in the wrong time zone format. This is the thing that everyone expects them to do instead of having common sense.

>>4553121
>consistently have 10 in top 25
>consistently
Actually checked and they averaged 6-7 streams in the top 25 this. none have 10 Nijis. Tell me the last time they have more than 10 in top 25 anon.

>>4554681
20-30% of VShojo also appears on the top 25 consistently. Cant say the same for Nijis.

>>4554959
*this week

>>4554719
I think they will do it on a holiday during JP prime time, just like Mori outfit reveal

>>4554866
Cope

>>4554959
They don't have consistently 10 on there but they have a sizeable number.

Besides, even if not on top 25, there's of course a lot that have high numbers.

This thread is pathetic

>>4554896
>>4555005
Yeah I agree which mean it very likely won’t beat her outfit reveal unless someone who care about number smack cover over the head about it.

>>4555056
>They don't have consistently 10 on there but they have a lower number
Well I hope that answers your question why Nijis are reclining. They'll probably have 2-3 less spots in the top 25 everytime Cover releases a new Gen. Expected to be completely out of the charts in a couple of years.

I kneel Ina

RIP is about to hit 20 million views which for any musician is very respectable. Obviously nothing for a chart topping artist but compare to say Lana del Rey or similar indies with official videos/MVs it's insanely impressive for a white girl anime themed rapper. I wonder if Cover thought she would do this well before hand. I doubt it, they really hit the jackpot with her recruitment.

>>4555258
>17.4k
Damn, is that game actually a buff?

>>4555334
We already know that YAGOO has SSR-grade luck. Tell us something that we DON'T know.

>>4555524
is like the sims but funny

>>4555258
I know it's not exactly nip primetime but beating Jun at any time of day is very respectable

>>4545176
I think people often forget that Pekora streams ALL the fucking time. I know shes a hikineet but still how she manages to stream not just nearly everyday but 2-3 times a day is beyond me.

>>4555524
>Damn, is that game actually a buff?
Miitopia is a fantastic stream game. I watched Vinny Vinesauce play through that game a few years ago and it was hilarious from start to finish. That game can probably carry a stream on its own if you give it good Miis to work with.

>>4555524
Ina's drawing stream gets 15k - 20k viewership. This game matches with what her usual audience enjoy.

>>4555977
> 15k-20k
Nevermind, this number is before the youtube thing happened. She gets 8k - 12k these days. Miitopia is indeed a buff game.

>>4554733
What does any of that have anything to do with what I said? Discounting non JP views on this month's views chart doesnt make those special streams magically never happens anonchama.

>>4555258
INA LOVE

Ina is the second best performing EN, I keep telling you

>>4555229
Sure? If they stop appearing and still put out good numbers to make money, who cares?

>>4556692
???? Who talked about discounting non jp views? I'm telling to you that Roboco numbers are much below that. She does 1k to 2k per stream and that's below a lot of nijisanji jp. Your argument is false because you are ignoring the context of her having a special stream like that while 99% of the rest were much smaller. This is like gura having 190k while her average is 20k. Needs context, always.

>>4556943
I wish I could like Ina but she isn't flat enough

>>4557262
Roboco, despite being near the bottom of HoloJP, would rank 4th in Nijisanji in sustained live viewers.

>>4557531
No, she wouldn't. Her average would make her at the bottom of nijisanji. I watch her every single day and she doesn't have this big number you think she does.

>>4557481
what about this?

>>4557068
>I keep telling you
Wow, keep telling us this super secret info you have!

You didn't tell us shit. This has been blatantly obvious to anybody paying attention since the start of the year. Although I would be willing to entertain an argument about Mori being #2 based on how her music performs.

>>4557668

>>4557262
>>4557531

Since both of you were giving conflicting information, I decided to look this up myself. Playboard says Roboc's CCV rate is almost 6.5k so she's really above all but 11 Nijis according to >>4475705.

Pic Related

>>4557596
bottom of Niji is even below 1k, also
>she does 1 - 2k per stream
you don`t really watch her lol

>>4557833
I kneel Roboko

>>4555726
She was impressed by XQC and want to stream a lot as well

R-robocochads, I didn't think you had it in you..

>>4558087
When freaking Robosa start numberfagging just to style on Nijis you know that Nijisanji is in a bad spot, lol.

>>4556460
I dont speak moonrunes

>>4558001
Thanks for proving my point. Most of her streams outside of events and collabs are the numbers I said.

>>4558001
I didn't talk about the ones below 1k, I talked about the ones with 1k and 2k.

>>4558267
If Nijisanji is in a bad spot, what that makes for everything that isn't hololive? We are going back with the discussion that you guys ignore the entire industry and only focus in two agencies while most of the industry, including other agencies, are on much worse numbers. But why do I always expect to have honest discussions here?

>>4557833
I worked it out for myself and her median max for solo streams over the last two months is 2653, playboard's figure is bumped up massively by the birthday and regular Uno collabs. I like RBC but if you're going to numberfag do it properly please.

>>4558524
oh no our little friend is retarded

>>4558524
>But why do I always expect to have honest discussions here?
do you know what thread you're in?

>>4557833
As I said before, her numbers are only that big in average with special events. Most of her streams are between 1-2k.

>>4558589
>for solo streams
literally half of her streams are collabs of some kind, but lets cut all of them to not even reach the 1-2k I claimed

>>4553032
So, out of the top 30, 19 are HoloJP and there are only 32 holoJP members. I thought the JP branch was dying?

>>4558524
this retard again, back to shitting up the thread.

>>4558524
>If Nijisanji is in a bad spot, what that makes for everything that isn't hololive? We are going back with the discussion that you guys ignore the entire industry and only focus in two agencies while most of the industry, including other agencies, are on much worse numbers. But why do I always expect to have honest discussions here?
You realize there are different standards for different things right? A good example would be if the New York Yankees finish with a .500 record and miss the playoffs the season would be considered a catastrophic failure for them. However, if the Baltimore Orioles finished with a .500 record the season would be a massive success and a step in the right direction for them.

Based on your logic you would still say Nijisanji is doing fine if they are putting up numbers more in line with 774 and Re:Act right? Since that is how the rest of the industry is doing? No, of course not. Hololive and Nijisanji operate to a completely different standard to the rest of the industry.

>>4552570
More vod doesnt mean that more people showed up fucking retard, shit does that mean that 19 million people listened to mori's original song? Such coping mechanism coming from chumbuds

>>4557833
For reference, bottom of the barrel HoloJP along the AnPonTan, Aki Rosenthal (my Oshi, I love you Aki!) would be ranked #33 (out of more than 100) if placed among the Nijis.

Pic Related, again, for the people that will try to call my BS.

>>4558641
I come here to look at numbers but the stupidity brings me to it.

>>4558589
Exactly what I'm saying, but it's difficult for them to understand it. They also never put context in the numbers.

>>4558888
>even freaking Aki would be in the top 3rd of Niji
Holy crap

>>4558848
and back to your samefagging loop we go

>>4554733
Even if what you said about Robot is true, which is not, did you just claim that the bottom tier Nijis could get 1-2k viewers on average? You're delusional cause these Nijis couldn't even compete against Holostars, retard.

>>4558961
>calling everything you disagree with a samefag
Get fucked

I was simply destroying his argument with logic.

>>4558726
Yes because people are watching for the collab partners and not her, and unless her solo stream viewers go up from that (they aren't) then it doesn't help her at all. And I'm not the anon that was talking about 1-2k but I seriously can't stand morons taking playboard's word as gospel in the supposed numberfag thread instead of actually looking at the data for yourselves.

>>4558848
No, by my standard they are doing much better than those agencies by far. Have you ever looked at their numbers? Nijisanji JP has 90 of its 103 members with at least more than 1k, which is more than 774 and react.

Nijisanji has many 10k, 20k per week with and even more with special events and collabs, something those others never reached. But hey, because it's not hololive, the global popular vtuber company (which competes against jp+overseas viewers) and somehow sometimes it still is able to surpass it, is doing bad. Seriously, you guys need to force a lot if you really have that opinion.

>>4558888
Now put out the collabs and special events like the anon who made that nijisanji graph did.

>>4558786
If anyone is shitting up something here are you guys doing shitposts. lol

>>4559023
>ms paint job
>get fucked
>destroyed
yup our chuuni jap is back from sleep.

This guy can break 100k+ tonight.

>>4558982
I didn't say anything about bottom tier. If it was I wouldn't say anything.

>>4559023
Great logic champ. Why should I even lose my time if all you guys do is shit on nijisanji and despise everything related to them? Just watch and cheer for hololive dominance, uhul. It's all numbers you care right? Then go ahead. Maybe in some day your dreams will be true and only hololive will remain while the other agencies will be dead, not that they exist right now for you guys except for numbers.

>>4559055
>your first point
Way to completely miss the point

>>4475705
>Deron barely gets a buck 40
>Rin is under 1k
>Himawari is down by 66% from a year ago
>the newest ones are in the shitter
Damn. Most still have decent numbers but it feels like it is trending downwards. Hololive is trending down too but not as sharply.

>>4559155
>I didn't say anything about bottom tier
come again?
>>4557596
>No, she (Roboco) wouldn't. Her average would make her at the bottom of nijisanji. I watch her every single day and she doesn't have this big number you think she does.

>>4559193
I'm sorry I miss the point when the agency is doing plenty fine and well overall, much much above the average of streaming numbers, even with the lowest ones. Friendly reminder that having more than 50 people watching you is already over the 5% of streaming and most in JP alone are above that as no one in there stream to less than 100.

>>4559204
Deron was a weird one to see for me. She is always presented as one of the faces of Nijisanji and here I find out that her numbers are absolutely in the toilet. Like, her numbers are really really bad.

That was quite surprising to see.

>>4559055
This. The absolute state of holobronies. Let's forget that Kuzuha is mogging everyone but Pekora in hololive now despite him not having overseas boost at all. He got 50k max viewers in RE8 while Pekora got 32k and Gura 35k.

>>4559249
When I said that, I meant the ones on the bottom, not the lowest bottom. The second and third tier of the bottom, 1-2k.

>>4559291
>Pekora gets 70k playing a 20 year old game
>Kuzuha needs FOTM new release to hit 50k
The sad state of vampire faggots

>>4559310
>the bottom is not the bottom you see

>>4559338
Because people wanted to see her "getting emotional". She got only 32k in the same FOTM game Kuzuha played.

>>4559204
How the newest ones are in the shiter when most of them are above 1k? And even if they were below it, those numbers are plenty fine for streaming when they are getting 900 or smth.
>>4559272
Kaede don't have big numbers for ages, this is nothing new. She's one of the most subscribed but there's many with 300k, 200k, 100k and so on that have more live viewers.

>>4559344
Believe in what you want. I know what I meant. There's three bottom on there, I meant the ones with 1-2k. It wouldn't make any sense for me to compare to the ones below 1k when I'm saying rbc reaches 1-2k.

>>4559055
>Now put out the collabs and special events like the anon who made that nijisanji graph did.
I'll do you one better and just show you her stream CCV numbers directly. If you can pick out more than 3 collabs out of the 20 in the picture, I'll crunch the numbers for you.

>>4559401
you never make any sense nipfag, there`s nothing new here

>>4559291
Hello Kuzuha fan. I'm about to introduce you to an entire new world of numberfagging

Kuzuha RE8: 632,783 views
Pekora RE8: 881,308 views
Gura RE8: 1,212,246 views

I don't know anon, looks to me like Kuzuha finished DEAD LAST.

>>4559291
show a screenshot that you have his membership

>>4559445
I mentioned special events and collab. There's 3 right on the first row..

>>4559500
Nijisanji vod views for some reason are always below EVEN when they have higher viewrship in live, so you can compare everyone and will be the same.

>>4559491
Ok sure.

This thread used to be good before the console war faggots started shitting it up every time, fuck off back to /v/ already

>>4559500
an anon could literally start his post with "I'M A FALSEFLAGGING FAGGOT" and this board would still take the bait. lol.

>>4559055
im not reading your mental gymnastic you retard, go outside get some help, touch some grass. for other poster i advice to add "retard" somewhere in your post when replying to this guy, maybe after reading it enough he would realize what kind of retard he is and finally stop shitting up the thread.

>>4559500
He streamed for only 2 hours and Pekora streamed for almost 8 during her max, so she got absolutely destroyed there.

>>4559743
>Pekora streamed for almost 8
you are one desperate faggot lol
https://vnuma.net/video-info/_k_6ScegKqQ
here's kuzuha's before you go out making up numbers as well
https://vnuma.net/video-info/qFqK8SjwNW8

>>4559677
Funny how your post is the one actually retard and shitting up. This thread is garbage with no worthwhile discussion but tribalism and shitting on nijisanji all the time while praising hololive. Vtuber fans? More like hololive fans.

>>4559860
so much irony in one post, im not going to make it

>>4559845
The absolute state of dishonest holobronies comparing different games.

>>4547816
so this is how far I need to scroll up after some faggot decides to shit up the thread, again. Anyways, shuba is doing good; ignore, hide and report the endless bait.

>>4553626
Based

>>4510612
how does it feel to have brain damage?

>>4558903
Cope seethe and dilate

>>4559501
he never will and he will continue to use wiki images
there are probably 5 anons on this entire board who actually watch kuzuha

>>4558903
Here's a novel concept for you, have you considered not responding?

>>4559885
So Niji is actually doing fine and growing at a better rate than Hololive? Good to know people here lie.

>>4559591
Buddy what do you think the v in vt stands for?

>>4559501
>>4560990
>you need to simp to this dude to realize he BTFOs everyone who isn't Pekora in hololive
What did he mean by this?

>>4559885
Translate weebs

Yes, the absolute top of Nijisanji is on oar with thre top of hololive. The next 20 spots have like 2 indies, 2 more nijis, and 16 holos. Kuzuha being a beast means all of Nijisanji is fine and better than hololive.

>>4561177
his fanart tag is #KuzuArt on twitter, hope it helps you at least find different images for your next shitty bait

>>4561271
I never stated I was a hardcore fan of his anywhere. I'm just acknowledging his numbers in a numberfag thread.

>>4561467
you have no idea what his numbers are, get his name out of your mouth

thread hit bump limit no one will know i like vtubers

>>4559272
Deron is JK Gumi. Somewhat equivalent to holo gen 0 on seniority. So her position sort of mirrors Roboco.
>>4559591
This thread is only good when there are more data to munch on. After a certain point, its just using numbers to defend your view/destroy others. Its good PR practice honestly.
>>4547816
>vshojo
Pink cat and mousey appearing here more often than 774 is strangely pissing me off. It really does seem that western numbers might overwhelm all nip chuubas eventually in this ranking.
Also I admit the Usaken buff is real, jesas

>>4561139
Do your reps

>Nijisanji has 100+ vtuber
>only use kuzuha to compare with Hololive
So it mean kuzuha is Nijisanji last hope. Imagine if Kuzuha drop out of top 10 they will lose their mind. Actually, it did happen on previous thread.

>>4559530
I went through this using your flawed logic and omitted collabs and special events for the entire month (included two entries that aren't visible in that image), something that the graph I referenced DIDN'T do (as far as I can see). Here are the numbers:

Aki's Live Stats:
>Median for Average CCV: 1,772 (#57)
>Median for Peak CCV: 2,528 (#36)
>Combined Score (sum those two up, divide by 2): 2,150 (#46)
I don't know how that graph calculates so I went with three options for you to mull over.

Now if we follow Playboard's model (last 15 streams), again not counting "muh special streams" for your assblasted rectum:
>Median for Average CCV: 1,969 (#54)
>Median for Peak CCV: 2,697 (#33)
>Combined Score (sum those two up, divide by 2): 2,333 (#40)
I played your game, by your rules. Found out that a bottom of the barrel HoloJP is still a middle tier NijiJP, above at least 40% of the roster. Make of this what you will and use whichever number makes you feel better about yourself and your choices.

>>4562871
>40%
People who don't even stream or were never popular. Aki has all the help in the world. The people who actually stream in Nijisanji do better.

Here's some nga number autism.
It "proves" that cover is buying likes and views.

>>4563090
>chinese

>>4563090
Remember MiracleXYZ?
I think it's the same guy.

>>4563090
that's some next level coping, buying chink narratives. can't believe nijifags have fallen this low now.

>>4563281
Nijifans have wide, warm hearts and aren't racists. They treat their chinese friends with love and respect and they get repaid in kind.

>>4559885
I can't read this shit but if the fourth column is subscriber gain no way this is right, how did niji only gain 200?

Good new for Nijisanji: Roboco and Fuwa stream at the same time. Because Roboco has a special stream so none of Hololive members would stream at that time. But Roboco is not popular in Hololive so she wouldnt get much viewers. That mean Fuwa has no one can steal viewers from him. Congratulations for breaking 100k Fuwa.

>>4563631
Leave fuwa out of this

>>4563009
>People who don't even stream
If we use this logic, Aki's rank would go up against Nijisanji chuubas. Look at the graph and you will see lots of people that streamed a very low numbers of times that rank above her (that number in the parenthesis is the numbers of streams they had for the month). You can set the cut off at any number between 1 and 10 and Aki's rank will go up by at least two irrespective of which value you decide to use from my previous post (>>4562871)

>or were never popular.
Your point? You think Aki is the most popular Holo? The only JP that is ranked below her by subs and by activity is AZKi and her live averages are higher.

>Aki has all the help in the world.
Welcome to the Cover/Hololive business model, where they do their best to boost each other up, and the ones that don't/can't normally have special circumstances around them (Gura's language barrier and introversion, Anya and Iofi's "do what I want" attitude, AZKi's music focused career). I don't know if it's a corporate mandate but they seem to be willing to go out of their way to collab even with the most obscure among them. If Nijis aren't doing that, they probably would be better off trying it, then again, their organization is excessively large for it to work without some proper restructuring.

>The people who actually stream in Nijisanji do better.
If you say that people that actually stream do better, then what's all that bunch of people ranked below her doing that they're not doing as well? What is Nijisanji not doing for them that keeps them where they are? If we go by your logic, again, those people are doing much worse by comparison alone.

>>4509221

>>4564219
Not to mention that Aki gets support from the company in the form of sponsorships and merch tie-ins so she's not struggling financially despite her low earnings.

>>4563370
John Cena said hi.

>>4563370
50cents have been deposited in your account

>>4563090
>chinks

>>4564219
Aki's numbers were below the 5th row of Nijis last month if I'm not mistaken. Maybe the chink rrat is true.

>>4565647
If you didn't notice, all she does is play MHR (a buff game) instead of ARK (a super debuff game) these days.

>>4565647
Yeah, maybe. Oh by they way I have this bridge I'm sitting on just waiting for a buyer, you interested?

>>4563090

>>4553626
Even in Japan hololive will be the face of the vtuber industry. People underestimate that having an international audience can greatly influence your domestic one too. Look at Kizuna Ai. She only really blew up when the global audience fully acknowledged her.

>>4561139
>retards cant read
nothing new

>>4555258
Nani!!?! Ina mogging Japan's pewdiepie Jun-chan. Even if this is a rare occurrence, this is still a big fat W for holoEN. Ina Supremacy.

>>4563555
maybe they have more people unsubscribing than people subscribing

>>4561250
cope seethe and dilate nijikek

>>4563555
anon...

>>4565728
MHR is not a buff game anymore, it was the first 2 months but not anymore

>>4563090
cant believe nijichinks are so desperate, try harder anon

>>4563370
cry more little bug

>>4563631
never mention fuwa on this board again, also kys while you're at it

>>4563631
We shall see. We shall see

>>4563631
IN THE RED CORNER, REPRESENTING MANJISANJI AND LEADING OFF WITH THEIR SIGNATURE MOVE, A 3D DEBUT, MINATO FUWA
https://youtu.be/zWtdaG1hAew

IN THE BLUE CORNER, REPRESENTING HOLOLIVE WITH THEIR SIGNATURE VIEWS BOOSTER, A NEW OUTFIT REVEAL, ROBOCO
https://youtu.be/FwBuNWQfKcg

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