/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>45725865
Who would be the grappler of Hololive?

>>45726055
Kanata's meaty gorilla grip

>>45725865
Oh nice, they have rollback.
Wonder who the other 4 character are, hoping for Pegor or Ame.

>>45725865
Why is korosama taking a poop?

>>45725865
Nijisisters, where is our fangame?

>>45725865
No haachama, no interest. But I hope the rest of you have fun.

>>45726404
Well, uh, there's that jump king clone and some shit visual novel that noone played. That's about it.

>>45726055
Matsuri

>>45726404
Finana messaged me and said if we copy Hololive it's better to not do it at all

>>45725865
Any fliers in the game?
>>45726404
https://dullachan.itch.io/ninisanni-scenario

>>45725865
Thanks for the info, looks cool
Would they add another Holomems as playable chara?

>>45726404
Can you tribalniggers shut up?
You niggers are as worse as the nijiniggers you are talking about
You have become what you hate

>>45732059
They have 4 more character planned.

>>45732857
for sure one of them is miko considering theyre using her fucking song

>>45725865
another fighting game that's confirmed rollback before tekken 8 roru

>>45732857
They should have had a rep for every gen.

>>45725865
This game have at least one spic in their team.

>>45733704
Sora - Gen 0
Fubuki - gen 1
Ayame - gen 2
Korone - Gamers
??? - gen 3
??? - gen 4
??? - gen 5
??? - gen 6

I hope this game gets released one day too.

https://twitter.com/sakuemonq/status/1637844063063015426?s=20

>>45728857
Why Matsuri?

>>45735188
Why the fuck would you make Pekora a boxer and not Korone?

>>45734271
Would be ideal, but I'm 99% sure that ID and EN are taking a spot.

>actually kino
goddamn

>>45736123
She has a record of groping the other girls, Subaru said she grabbed her ass while Suisei talked about how Matsuri grabbed her when she wasn't wearing a bra. She's also known to have kissed 10+ of the girls and frenched 2 iirc.

>>45726404
soon, and it will mog holoshit games hard

Cant wait for the Aqua knee slapping fighting style

who's the puppet character?

>>45725865
Does it have rollback?

>>45726404
You play yabingo nijisister. I'm still expecting more delays for the concery.

>>45737149
Yes, you can see the GGPO logo here >>45732857. It's an indie fighting game which pretty much confirms it'll have rollback form the get go.

I wanna see Marine beat ass with a comically large anchor/hammer, and Coco tailslap bitches across the goddamn screen.

>>45725865
Can Mori ride horses?

>>45726404
as someone who supported nijisanji for over 3 years and worked on some fan games/mods i hope no one wastes there time into making a big project like holocure or this fighting game.
anycolor doesnt deserve the free promotion with how shitty they are with running nijisanji

>>45734271
I'm gonna say Flare takes the Gen 3 spot and she'll be a zoner
If these aren't the kind of devs that still try to put Coco front and center almost two years after her graduation then Kanata or Towa take the Gen 4 spot
No Gen 5 or 6
ID takes spot 7 with Risu
EN takes spot 8 with Ame

>>45732857
Not necessarily revealed in the following order, but the remaining 4 are:
Shirogane Noel
Takahashi Kiara
Kaela Kovalski
Omaru Polka

3 post launch:
La+ Darkness
IRyS
Gawr Gura

Ah yeah I tested this at anime Boston last year. Game was pretty fun, plays out like any big fighting game really.

>>45737263
Oh nice

>>45737673
if they're going anime route, Kanatan being a fly unfly character would be sick. Marine would probably be more fun as a zoner than Flare, with the big ass anchor hitting on call back as well, throwing shit like bottles or whatever, maybe pulling random items from inside a treasure chest, Skullgirls Peacock style.

>>45737801
none of the big fighting games play like each other, faggot, give a more accurate example. how many buttons? is it ABC Drive?

>>45725865
Looks pretty cool, I wonder if there'll be any major FGC people that'll pick this up, at least temporarily.

>>45738043
If it's 3v3 with assists then it's guaranteed get token exposure at the very least. Marvel players are starved.

>>45726140
Id be willing to bet at least one of the reveals will be an EN member. Money on Mori.

>>45738043
There's Koefficient but he was an obvious one, and maybe Sajam since he tries out most games with rollback. Outside of them tho knows.

>>45738043
there's that one fag Koefficieint that will undoubtedly make at least some videos on this, but I really wouldn't expect it to take among established FGC people. Only among fans. FGCfags are all about chasing that bag, and I doubt the devs will offer price money if this game is free.

I hope they do bonus stages involving horses...

>>45738359
not enough characters for that, 2v2 tag at most.

>>45738917
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDo3wlDretk

>>45734271
Gen 3 - Peko as a weapon master or Marine as a zoner
Gen 4 - Kanata as a grappler or Towa as a zoner (Would love Watame tho)
Gen 5 - Botan as a rushdown gunner or Lamy as Cryomancer
Gen 6 - Lapu as a Capitan comando style using all of HoloX as assists.

Might not have enough pro player but I can still dream of this game bevoming an EVO sidetournament played in bathrooms.

>>45739270
HoloExpo bathroom tournaments

>>45739167
>Lapu as a Capitan comando style using all of HoloX as assists.
HOLY FUCKING KINO

>>45739336
imagine the smell

>>45739427
Can't be worse that a Smash tournament

The real question is which member will play it and how likely they are to keep playing it beyond a single stream.

>>45739806
Ougaman

>>45739355
Holo has it quite easy in how to put ideas into use, they basically right themselves.
>Reine could fight using Anya as a weapon and Ollie as a meat shield.
>Ame could play with the in-game timer to her advantage.
>Baelz is GGxrd Jack-o in steroids.
>Risu could stack nuts that progressively debuffs the opponent.

>>45740156
>Mori is literally just her moveset from her hologra

>>45740156
if they're going Haachama (Forma de Schizo), she could be the puppeteer character. Akai Haato as the main and Haachama as the puppet. Love me some negative edge.
Mukirose install. Oh God, this could be so good.

>>45740374
Wouldn't Haachama work better as a Stance character?
>Haato is weaker but faster and better in combo starters.
>Haachama is stronger but slower better suited for combo finishers.

>>45736535
To be fair, they're both boxing, it's just that Korone doesn't have boxing gloves.

The moment someone has an 8-way airdash and setplay I'm in.

>>45741345
kimoi

>>45741345
You better like Kanata

>>45737624
I think most anyone that would have done that has left. I remember there was an actual decent drawfag that made some actual decent design documents for Ike and Nina in a fighting game, with different laid out animations and attacks. Nobody want to associate with that sinking ship anymore though.

>>45737624
yeah, and people screaming its only about EN i don't think thats the only issue, their shit way of running the company finally exposed its just not sustainable, also that kanae event is so bad, all that money truly went to riku yacht

>>45741345
Can't wait for a hard zoner to pull the underwear over your face nerd

>>45740156
ame becomes banjo kazooie or duckunt with bubba

>>45742611
I think smol ame would be better than bubba for that type of character

>>45742669
so ame and smol ame? sounds funnier yea

>>45733223
i'm a 35p and i want her on the game but she's already a background character... but i still want to believe

>>45741345
Marvelkeks get the rope

My Ayame is CLEAN

>>45742894
I feel you, I want Watame as a rushdown character but I feel she's to fluffy to be punched.

Give Nene Galactica Phantom.

>>45726404
only holotards play those pixel indie shovelware

>>45726404
It got postponed.

>>45725865
If this retard puts it on steam like he said he will he's going to get a c&d faster than you can blink

>>45744988
Why though?

>>45726055
Kanata

>>45744516
Or because NijiEN fans stopped getting fanmade stuff the moment Ethyria and Luxiem dropped.

>>45725865
Looks pretty cool... but 2 years? I know it takes a lot of work but still sounds like a lot of time for only 4 characters.

>>45740374
>Haachama is literally just Zappa

>>45744988
yeah I thought that was very strange
if it is free maybeeeee it will be fine
maybe

>>45732857
So Miko and Mio are pretty much confirmed... the third one may be Okayu to complete gamers and the last one... maybe Suise?

>>45745501
There's 8 characters

>>45745258
Because steam is a commercial storefront and even if something is free by steams own terms and conditions its a commercial product

>>45725865
The madlad actually used the Ankimo rush attack
I swore that was a joke

>>45745682
>confirmed
where?

if I had to make a roster for a holo fighting game with one rep from each gen
0 - sora
1 - mel
2 - subaru
3 - pekora
4 - watame
5 - botan
6 - iroha
id - iofi
id2 - anya
id3 - kaela
en1 - gura
irys - irys
en 2 - fauna
gamers - korone
secret 1/gamers character - fubuki with kurokami alt, unlocked by beating kurokami final boss in arcade

>>45745929
Did you just pick your fave from each gen? If so, fair enough. These don't seem like the natural first picks.

>>45746034
hmm these aren't all my favourites, I partial favourites, partial who I think would make for fun/interesting playstyles

>>45746156 (me)
to kind of elaborate, it's who I would want to play as/against most from each gen, basically so how much I like the talent and how fun I think they would be for me to play as/against were both considered which led to an interesting roster

>>45746156
>>45746330
I see, Iofi and fauna are the two that jumped out as funny picks to me, I'm curious if you've got some thought process behind them.

>anime fighter
cringe zoomer bullshit

i think some jap dude also in the making of fighting game? but only using JP gen 3 characters. it's also a decent looking one.
i forgor the name.

>>45725865
Well, they're bothering to use English, so at least a couple of the EN girls. Probably Mori and Gura because they have the biggest JP following. They're probably throw in Kobo because she's basically Player 2 Gura. Last space... probably Suisei because she gets crowbarred into fucking everything.

>>45746387
fauna is my oshi lol so naturally she'd be my main
iofi I think having an art based fighting game character would be super interesting/fun, I haven't really watched her much but just the idea of a character sloshing paint around and sweeping/slashing around with brushes was super fun/interesting to me although I've only seen her do digital art, so the thought process was kinda based on her og outfit

>>45725865
>corny western art
hard pass on this scooby doo lookin bullshit

>>45725865
Based character choices, and must have taken a lot of effort by the devs. Kudos

>>45725865
I hope someday Hololive/Cover take their tracking tech and make an official fighting game with fatalities and stuff or at least get added to Smash

>>45725865
I wish the art was cuter

>>45725865
art reminds me of the touhou floater fighting games (14.5, etc.)

>>45749926
>fatalities
You mean the thing that's only interesting during the first few weeks of the game and after the honeymoon period people just hit their opponents at the end so they can go to the next match faster?

>>45725865
How does this work financially? They can't monetize it for obvious reasons and since it's going to be an online game there would be upkeep costs. Who's going to pay for it?

>>45751248
How expensive is is the upkeep of a peer-to-peer game?

>>45732857
moona

>>45738007
They all play the same, retard.

Friday night /vt/ lobbies...

>>45737703
And once again, Gen4 is discriminated against. Kaela is great but show some respect and have a JP senpai as a starter and not a Holoh3ro who hasn't' been with Cover for even one year. At least make it an ID1.

>>45751940
And they're all button mashing combo fests, right?

>>45751940
For a casual maybe, for the sweaty gamers a simple dash or run length would mean a lot.

>>45752205
You'd need to be completely brain dead to think games like Street Fighter, Tekken and Mortal Kombat are in any way similar even if you're a casual player.

>>45732857
steam? is Cover allow it?

Lol time to stop working on my own holo FG, can't beat first mover advantage

>>45751417
>>45751115
So for a modern fg you need 4 things, a matchmaking server, a lobby server, a tunneling/relay server, and a ranked stats server. You can probably service this on the free tier of most cloud providers for under 1000 players, and on a shitty $5 /month one for up to maybe 10k. However since they're on steam they can use steamworks to host all of that for free.

>>45753694
Even a simple, generic lobby needs a separate server? It's obvious this game won't have anything like SF6's or the ArcSys' trademarked chibi lobbies.

>>45753788
in this case "server" just refers to the service that handles the creation, joining, and cleanup of lobbies. It's almost always a docker image running on the same box as the other ones. The only one you'd want more than 1 of is the relays, for the poor dudes fucked over by their isp

>>45753788
Also there's no reason they wouldn't, chibi lobbies are dummy easy and they should be at the point where the work is mostly on the art/battle planners, main engine dev should have a bunch of free time rn unless he was a dumbass, whicg is entirely possible

>>45752080
>>45752205
It's all the same shit no matter how much you cope.

>>45725865
Oh boy can't wait for the fighting-gamefags to be elitist that a for-fun fanmade game isn't balanced or as good as Melee or whatever.

>>45726556
>some shit visual novel
I'm a holofag and played it. It was absolutely fantastic. Hololive fans need to make their own so we can outshine the nijiniggers.

>>45754547
Most casuals were introduced through fightans in recent years with Guilty Gear Strive, and that ended up slightly ok. If anything there'd be somewhat less gatekeeoing here since SF6 and Tekken 8 are gonna be out soom, all the gatekeeping will be over there.

>>45745773
It's up to Cover to kill it though. As long as it remains free, they probably won't take it down. Delivering Hope has been on the app store for a while and that would surely fall under the same rules.

If Kiara is in, then she better have her kikiriki kick.

>>45754412
>He thinks 2D and 3D fighters are the same becuse you punch the other guy
It's fine to admit you don't play.

>>45753889
>>45754011
Didn't know about that. And I'd prefer them to do a simpler lobby system than the absurd bureaucracy that is most modern ArcSys games.

>>45754682
I don't know which casuals are you talking about but Strive brought an extremely obnoxious wave of newcomers, especially those who became fans of a certain character because the creator decided to pander to them.

I haven't played a waifu fighter since Arcina Heart so excited to try this out. Anyone here played six stars, want to play it before holo fighters.

>>45754832
I have played most of the popular ones. It's all the same shit. Having slightly different jump mechanics and a gimmicky meter doesn't make them different games.

no RBC no play

>>45754656
...you know there's that vn game that has Aqua in right?

>>45737135
mio with her stand

>>45752034
dude, just let them cook. id rather them do whatever they want than them being forced to follow the seniority rule. like bro, they prolly choosing the girl based on development issues like game balancing or asset availability or some shit.

>>45725865
Seems fun.

>>45755140
>I played the popular ones
Name them, also none said this game won't play like other anime fighters.

>>45755307
Not only that but there's the creative aspect of making a new character. Maybe they have an easier time creating a kit for the more recent members, and someone like Botan or Iroha are probably more suitable for a fighting game than others like AZKi or Mel for example. Not that unorthodox character can't exist, Marvel 3 made fucking Phoenix Wright work stupidly well, but they will always be harder to design than just someone who has weapon associated to their character.

>>45755215
Ew, Aqua...

>>45755943
why are you gay?

>>45740505
Mio should be the stance character because of Hatotaurus

>>45757514
That would make her a pet character, not a stance character.

>>45758612
nah Hatotaurus is officially known as a Mio's stand.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNv5UziZHII

They should add Sana as an Onslaught or Galactus style boss fight. And then Coco as the Cyber Akuma stand-in.

>>45754993
Obviously I was talking about year 1 of Strive. That one was fine.

>>45725865
wamy will be wacking her opponents with sake bottles

>>45726055
Coco and Noel, Kanata has the gorilla grip strenght but that doesn't mean she can lift anything.

>>45758793
You're mixing terminology here, because a stance character changes the way their commands work in the middle of the match. They way more frequent in 3D games than 2D, with Lei from Tekken being THE stance character having like 13 of them. Mio would be a pet character if Hatotaurus acts independently, like Jack O' from GG or Gargos from KI, or a puppet character if you directly control her stand, like Zato from GG or the Clovers from Blazblue.

>>45759359
oh yeah i mixed them up. I was thinking of something like a puppet character but for some reason I just had a brain fart

>>45725865
Holy shit I'm in. Please have rollback

I want Noel to like be a grappler in this
Big armored attacks and a command grab or like a huge unblockable punch like Galactica Phantasm

>>45754832
That image has so many layers...

>>45725865
I need Shoto Subrau

>>45763423
What's her fireball and forward advancing move?

Holy shit Watame looks dope.

>>45765949
I want to fuck that Watame

>>45762752
It should feature aqua instead

>>45751940
>they all play the same because uuuhhhh.... you hit the other guy in all of them

>>45760242
It does indeed

>>45741864
And you cannot really support the vtubers themselves because if company sinks, the models will go with it.

nijibros are posting rocksuki again...

>>45754547
>fighting game fans
>melee fans
not the same

>>45725865
I'm gonna fuck you guys up lets go

>>45752751
there are already hololive fan games on steam.

check pogo stick miooooooon and gawr gura quest for bread

Wait, why does this actually look good

Do they have a discord or anything? The game looks pretty far along already, but I'd love to help if they're still looking for devs

>>45770884
>if they're looking for devs
Doubt it, it's releasing in a few months

>>45770884
they've tweeted already that they're full staffed but thank you for all the interest.

>>45753694
not true. recently the paragon remakes have been coming out and the first one flopped incredibly hard while the corporate netmarble one and the other team fight it out.

>>45752034
Why are you believing a random Anon?

>>45726055
Nene

>>45725865
why name it "idol"?

>>45774186
It's jork.

>>45774186
"Comedian Showdown" was too much of a mouthful.

>>45774186
>Getting worked up over the term idol when its used loosely among the holomems
Though Holo Fighters or Holo Battle Gals might have worked better.

>>45725865
basado

>>45725865
Lets gooooo

>>45732857
Those portraits look atrocious.

>>45725865
Ojou looks so fun to play! Release the game already

>>45776054
I agree with this. Putting 'holo' in the name would have been a better idea.

>>45736535
Pekora "Amateur Boxer" Usada
vs
Korone "The Gloves are Off" Inugami

>>45780044
Feels very deviantart. And it's not like there isn't of good to great hololive fan-artists out there.

>>45725865
Yes more fangames

I was seriously just thinking the other day about how weird it is that we haven't seen a good fanmade holopro fighting game yet.

>>45780286
Still doesn't work. Pekora has nothing to do with boxing. His other characters are theme appropriate but Pekora being a boxer makes no sense

>>45736876
All a larp

>>45781812
Its not that surprising

>>45735188
This looks so much prettier. I want this game over the other one.

>>45726404
Working on it. Just need fightan anon to come back to give me more inspiration

>>45780387
Yeah plus the sprites are a letdown.

>>45785497
That's such a dumb logic. These games aren't in the same categories. Idol showdown is an actual fighting game. If you have seen "fights" of the other one, characters have 3-4 attacks they can do and spam them on loop without any strategy.

>>45745929
I dont really care about her much but I feel like Kronii would be a better choice for council cause you can just make her a character with time stop shit

Pretty sure I saw sprites for Suisei and Mio for this game not that long ago

>>45725865
>Only 4 characters playable
>Slow develoment
>No HoloEN
Dead on arrival

>>45725865
There's so few holos that canonically have weapons, sadly. At least they already got Ayame wielding Rakshasa and Asura.

>>45787793
>Can't even understand a trailer correctly
Skill issue

Wish I could find better fan art for Holo fighters concetept.

>>45788495
Most of the girls don't need a weapon to fight according to the lore. Just take Ina, who can use tentacle portals but then again she does have her trusty crowbar as a hidden weapon she can pull out.

>>45751060
Can't tell if character's with background nods are getting in or not. Ayame has her mascot and she's in so she breaks the rule, but Sora/FBK/Korone/Suisei have no background nods (at least not in the two stages we have). I think at the very least, any character whose body shows up in the background (Mori/Pekora/Miko/Ame) is out

>>45794783
There's lots of members with lore related to magic, weapons and their stream lore can also serve as an inspiration, like Korone or Pekora for example, while others are a little more difficult to create kits around them. I think Gen 4 is probably the hardest to do it save from Coco, because Kanata only really has the wings and her grip strength to go by, Luna could summon the Luknights to fight for her but that's about it, there's not much going on with Watame unless you make her a copy of Anila from GBVS and Towa's main thing are fps games but giving her a gun doesn't feel like it suits her aesthetic. Sure, it's definitely not impossible to create a concept for any of them considering the long history of weird fg characters that worked, but if I was a dev I would give priority on those who have easier traits to translate. Ayame was probably the most braindead to make due because she duel wields katanas, while Sora is the weirdest character of the the launch roster, especially when one of her moves is her strumming the ukelele which kinda reminds me of Elphet opening the champagne bottle.

>>45725865
Serious question, are the homos going to be in it? Because the top girls (who will give it exposure) wont play it if they are.........

>>45797452
are you stupid?

>>45797374
I don't think Gen 4 is as hard as you make it out to be even excluding Coco. Kanata easily can go into the angel gimmick and have powers there along with her strength, Towa has been shown in HoloAlternative to be experience with magic/spells and that easily ties into a kit design, on top of wielding a trident. Watame is a tad odd, but you can make her a bard tied with sheep and that's something feasible, and Luna feasibly could just be Luknights fighting for her.

>>45797374
I don’t play fighting games so take what I say with a grain of salt. For Kanata there’s really cool stuff you could do with her with her fallen angel outfit. Since by lore she is training to be an angel she could have healing powers and good defense in her angel form with good grabs (grip strength) and mediocre magical attacks (she is still training). She could change to fallen angel mode where she gives up her healing and strong defense for stronger magic attacks.

>>45798335 (me)
Or even make fallen angel mode a limited time form where she keeps strong defense and still gets powerful attacks creating a loop of staying alive in base form so you can switch into fallen angel form.

>>45742894
I wouldn't give up yet anon, Tron Bonne was a background character too in Marvel Vs. Capcom 3 and they just had her not appear if she was being used

>>45797374
>Luna could summon the Luknights to fight for her but that's about it
Just make her like Hinako from KoF as she plays Honda.

>>45751715
This game had such kino sprites too bad the gameplay doesn't work for competitive stuff

>>45751940
>faggot who doesn't know anything about fgs is the one guy who has actually had a chance to test the game
>has nothing insightful to offer as a consequence
>proud of his ignorance on top of it all
die in a hole

>>45798335
>>45798507
You can only use an alternate form gimmick so many times though, and there are other Holos where it makes more sense. Like Haachama.

the impacts and sound effects are really underwhelming for a fighting game

>>45797374
>Pekora
Skill gate character. Has flashy, extremely powerful attacks which are also easily punished by anyone who knows what they're doing.

In Smash Bros. I could see her as maybe a lightweight version of Snake, with floaty jumps but no recovery move (it's replaced by a giant hammer).

>Laplus
https://dragonballfighterz.fandom.com/wiki/Captain_Ginyu

GOOD MOOOOOOOORNING /vt/! Just wanted to remind you that we’re another day closer to Towa (yes, THE Towa from yonkisei) getting confirmed in Idol Showdown! Make sure to save your tears for the upcoming reveal when Towa walks into the spotlight!
>H-HAH! KANATA IS OBVIOUSLY THE 4TH GEN REP!!!!
“No!”
Hate to disappoint you Heiminfags, but there are still FOUR (4) more slots for Idol Showdown! And while you continue to praise that gorilla, need I remind you who truly is the face of yonkisei after Coco left? Feel free to continue your denial. Your tears of disappointment will be all the more sweeter!

>>45802036
>implying it won't be watame

>>45802072
couldn't have said it better myself

Which character will be the scummy zoner? I enjoy not giving my opponents a chance to play and chipping them to death and getting hate messages after.

>>45802036
This takes me back...

>>45737624
>with how shitty they are with running nijisanji
Puzzles me how they think releasing wave after wave before their talents create a fanbase is going to work

>>45802036
Order of likeliness:
1. Coco
2/3. Kanata/Towa
3. Watame
4. Luna

If the creator was on reddit alot when Coco was active it will most likely be her. For Kanata/Towa it's a tossup based on the creator preferences. If its for the new leader/center of Yonkisei it should be Kanata, but more english people like Towa because they probably heard and loved her Error cover when getting into Hololive I think. Watame is pretty forgettable for a lot of people imo. Luna has the least amount of fans and doesn't have much relavance.

This is all assuming his oshi isn't in 4th gen.

>>45804220
Fuck I messed up the numbering.

>>45804220
There really isn't a center/leader of yonkisei, but you are correct on Towa being vastly the more popular choice overseas.

Nijisisters, it's not fair... How come only the holos get to have ALL the cool fangames???

>>45805076
Not officially but I think most would agree that Kanata is the unofficial center. She's the most popular in terms of numbers and she has connections with everyone in Yonkisei except Watame. She has Orio with Towa, she recently has become good friends with Luna, and she was the closest to Coco who was the previous center so I think it many peoples head she took that role.

>>45805369
If you're talking pure numbers, sure, but again, Coco never had the greatest ones either and she was easily consider as such, so it isn't really a relevant metric if you want to determine that. It's why I said there's not really a center, they'd have to actually tie everyone together, and the only person likely to drag them together is Towa. Considering she's a much bigger unityfag within that group than others there, she's the only who keeps a yonkisei banner on twitter still, and is often the one organizing collaborations amongst holos.

>>45804220
>Watame is pretty forgettable for a lot of people imo
When she is a fucking meme everywhere. Get that shit opinion out of there.

>>45805705
I can see that. For me until she actually manages to bring them together though I think Kanata has the Yonkisei connections and I forgot to mention Kanata has been put into MC roles for official events recently too (I forget if Towa has let me know if she has been too) which helps her case imo.

>>45806006
It's not to say Towa doesn't have Yonkisei connections, she's pretty decent friends with Watame, there's Orio even if it's really dead, and Luna is a friend of friend of Subaru, it's not unrealistic to say she's equal to Kanata on that level. Towa's the host of the yearly Mario Kart tournament and was hosting an official series called Maruyama Game Show on the hololive channel that ran for a while, was also a MC to the recent holofes, though not the opening one like Kanata, not to mention she often helps set up other people's events within Hololive that are hosted. Kanata doesn't really have those exact same credentials/history to stand out as a leader/center, Towa if you really want to argue for one within Yonkisei.

>>45806419
unlike Towa if*

The only Yonkisei that matters is Pekora.
Yes I know she's not in Yonkisei, no I don't care.

>>45806000
I didn’t mean it in a rude way. Maybe she isn’t forgettable overall but forgettable as a member of Yonkisei? Absolutely. I don’t remember her really interacting with any 4th Gen members recently at all. IMO when people think of 4th Gen the first 3 people associated with the group are Coco and Kanata/Towa. It also helps that Kanata and Towa are angel and devil which links them together in a way.

>>45806419
Good points I’ll have to pay closer attention to Towa since her appearances haven’t stuck out to me.

>>45806702
Well that maybe true, but considering >>45751060 having Suisei I don't really think they are going for Gen representation but rather more what they like.

>>45806925
I don't really think there's a center/leader of Yonkisei is a important thing to note, there's just been a vacancy since Coco and there's a negative since of unity within the grouping since. Towa's just easily more arguable to be one.

>>45807006
Also could be true, but I think Suisei is a unique case because she is way more popular than anyone in hololive especially in her gen (the only one in that race is probably Pekora) and for many people she is the current face of hololive.

>>45807425
The suisei preferential treatment, love to see it.

>>45738043
As others said, don't expect big FGC personalities to promote this game, only we have Koefficient at this moment, possibly Maximilian but his audience will bash him into oblivion imho.

>>45804220
Oi, what the fuch are you talking, nanora?

>>45809121
Why? Last I check his audience isn't that spiteful at anime.

Wonder if they'll eventually get around to everyone. A lot of them have a ton of potential-- more than you could fit into one member per gen.

>>45809121
Max will never touch this game in a million years. He might give a shout out if it grows big enough to go outside of the vtuber sphere, but he isn't a big fan of modern anime stuff and definitely won't be interested in a game where all the characters are a bunch of idols. Outside of Koefficient the only other person that I can see playing it is Sajam because he supports indie games from time to time, especially if they have rollback, but also don't expect more than one stream from him.

>>45812069
Animefans and vtuberfans don't get along that well. It doesn't help that vtuberfans rarely integrate whenever they start up on different sites.
>>45797452
Why don't you go beg the creator to put them in

>>45781812
Why would it be weird? Fighting games aren't that popular.

https://twitter.com/IdolShowdown/status/1639039319062253569?t=91BYaztU0CTLkDAT9nSMrw&s=19

>>45818249
This is an interesting paradox. There's not many genres that could accommodate a cast of weird characters with varied playstyles better than fighting games, but at the same time it's also not a very popular genre itself. There are beat 'em ups and character actions games that also fit the bill, but the former is somehow less popular than fgs and the latter is a more complex game to make considering they're 3D by design. And yeah, there's also hero shooters and mobas but do we really need more of those?

>>45820999
Artstyle is not the prettiest but the animations are actually pretty good. Looks like it has a fun combo system as well.

>>45821207
Games like fighting games, rts and other 1v1 games will never be that popular because you don't have others to blame for your losses. MtG grew exponentially after Commander was created and it became the most popular format super fast bringing a lot of new players to the game.

>because you don't have others to blame for your losses
This has been parroted for 3 decades and it still isn't true. People don't like fighting games because they have to actually learn to play the game.

>>45822134
The whole blaming others is one of the things that make fighting games less approachable but it's a oversimplification of the many problems the genre has. There's like way more issues with it than just human psychology, and both RTSs and card games managed to be way bigger than fgs ever were even if they share that same problem. Maybe if fgs weren't stuck in the arcade era and had actually interesting single-player modes, didn't take a decade and half to make having a good online experience a priority, weren't complete garbage at teaching new players the actual basics and didn't nickel and dime by releasing a 60 dollar product that has less shit to do than a F2P game while also pushing for season passes that sometimes more than double the starting price then the genre would be more popular.

I main Miomama.

>>45806702
You sound like a newfag. Coco was always praising Watame for helping all the time.

>>45806419
There is no center to yonkisei and there likely never will be after Coco left. They simply don't have that kind of relationship.

>>45823667
Mio should block attacks with Taiga, much like Taiga blocks attempts to impregnate her.

>>45824830
Taiga needs to stop getting in my way.

>thread is full fgc autism
Yep, feels like home

>>45824375
Coco has been long gone though. And she was the glue that connected the gen together

>>45797374
>Watame unless you make her a copy of Anila
It's not because they look alike that it would work. Watame and Anila would fight nothing alike

>>45826853
Well she could use the Watamates as projectiles.

>>45826979
Even so, the official design of watamates isn't as fluffy or as big as Anila's sheeps'. Which will make it hard for them to translate as proper projectiles for exemple. That's why it's not gonna work

>>45826979
>>45827338
There has always been an answer.

>>45726055
Kanata

>>45734271
Gen 3 Noel for the Grappler
Gen 4 Luna as the minion char with Lunaitos protecting and attack for her
Gen 5 Lami with freezing attacks al a Jin (BlazBlue)
Gen 6 Iroha as Mix-up character

Alternatively
Myth Ina with long range tentacle attacks
Council Kronii with Timestop shenanigans
ID 1 Moona as a zoner with Astronomy-related projectiles
ID 2 Ollie for rushdown
ID 3 Kobo with Water zoning

>>45742188
I'm out of the loop, what is the Kanae event? I've heard it meantioned a few times by now

>>45787793
Did you really just said having No HoloEN is a bad thing?

>>45830741
kanae's concert that cost twice what a one day ticket at holofes costed and yet is half the quality and suffered from technical issues throughout

>>45834883
Sounds rough. What date was it? I wanna look up archives of it.

>>45835049
it took place on the thursday before holofes, so the 16th. You'll have to work out what that is in your local time

>>45823327
I do love fighting games and bristle at people who say that they're completely dead and gone already, but I can't argue with any of this.

>>45818249
Well, my thinking was that MUGEN and Ikemen GO still have a pretty active community and that there are likely vtuber fans among them.

>Noel is added as a grappler
>She works exactly like Gigas
Your response?

>>45725865
They need to contact this guy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UiG3ccYJag

>>45737277
including coco will trigger the chinese. do it!!

>>45835829
>they add coco
>instant dmca takedown
Kino

>watch the trailer
>every move is gonna have 236, 632, 214 + button like SF
I'm getting filtered bros...

>>45836035
>filtered by basic motion inputs
Bro...

Why does the characters skin look so dark? All of Hololive, barring Sana and Ollie, are white.

>>45823327
speaking as someone who tried to get into fighting games and just couldn't, the biggest hurdle for me was how fighting game skills just plain don't transfer from or to any other genre of game and thus needs to be completely built up from scratch, and unlike tcg or RTSes there's no real way to enjoy fighting games as a low-mid skill player so those two problems compound on themselves

>>45836035
Damn, this breaks my heart. Do you not play any 2D fighting games? The fact that you know numpad notation but can't do the moves is blowing my mind right now.

>>45836035
If you want a smash game. Wait for this game to get updates https://zortoise.itch.io/holoversus
For now it's only local, no CPU but it's already pretty good

>>45754993
I swear I see people complain about Bridget MORE than people who actually play the damn game, and I played this shit since XX

>>45836294
I'm afraid that what this all really boils down to is whether or not fighting games were still popular when you were young. I'm a little under thirty and still have very vivid memories of playing fighting games on actual arcade machines with friends. I was the only one really into Street Fighter, but we would play lots of Tekken, Mortal Kombat and Soulcalibur at home as well. I get the impression that most people younger than me mostly just played Smash Bros.

>>45836108
>>45836342
NTA, but I understand his pain, consider I play on keyboard

>>45732857
>>45780044
It could be worse.
I do agree it'd be way better if the dev could get a better artist or if that artists stopped trying to make everything a Jojo reference.

>>45836713
Just buy a mixbox, retard

>>45836814
Please do not sign your posts. Do you really think someone that has to play on a keyboard is gonna shell out the money for a fucking mixbox?

>>45836713
>I play on keyboard

>>45836976
I mean ...
You try finding a controller in buttfuck nowhere third-world SEA country in 2007 and tell me how easy that is

>>45836976
It works better than you would expect it to. I'm not that guy, but growing up that was the only way I could play fighting games on my PC. I'd use WASD as the joystick and the numpad as buttons.

>>45836923
You don't "have" to find play on anything. You could literrally buy a 15$ ps3 pad and play on that. No matter what shithole you live in. You're just a little bitch that don't want to commit.

>>45830529
>Gen 3 Noel for the Grappler

>>45745773
>PogoStickMiooooooon
no

>>45836342
I've tried learning SFV, but Tekken is the only game I played against other people. I have never landed an electric in an actual match, because I have to look at my hand doing the motions to do it successfully.

>>45837195
You kinda went right past where I called you a retard for recommending an obviously poor person spend several hundred dollars on a stupid meme fighting game controller, and I'm not even the keyboard guy.
I own several arcade sticks myself, but the fact that you think someone has to buy a controller to "commit" to these kinds of games just tells me that you fucking suck ass at fighting games.

>>45837378
BO5 me. Game of your choice fightcade or steam.

>>45837316
I really, really disliked Street Fighter V and would seriously recommend you try any other game in the series over it should you find yourself wanting to try them again. Electrics take practice to pull off consistently, so I wouldn't beat yourself up over that if I were you.

>>45837514
>really disliked Street Fighter V
after putting copious amounts of time to learn every single move and combo with Vega, to then realized he sucked ass compared to every other character.. i agree

>>45837378
>>45837459(me)
That's right you fucking scrub, just ignore my message, shut the fuck up and keep moving. You're all talk.
I even gave you the game advantage. What a pussy ass nigga.

>>45837459
NTA but I will defend his honor. Strive or tekken 7 good for you?

>>45837831
Catch my Ram in Strive.

>>45837459
Haha, I'm good. You can fight the other guy.

>>45837953
Aight, I'll boot the game up and make a lobby

>>45837737
The game feels so stiff! Just not my cup of tea.

>>45837999
Don't make a lobby. 1st japan park. Anji avatar. I'll say: anon's a b**ch. I'll wait

>>45838115
I'll be there in a bit, taking a piss and getting another beer

>>45838115
I'm here at the 1st cab, red jack-o suit

>>45838115
>>45838138
>>45838405
>>45837999

NTA, but you guys better have some clips for that shit

>>45838115
Where you at lil nigga?

Anon died on the way to get another beer. RIP

>>45838751
No, I'm here waiting for the other anon

>>45736876
This.
>>45784016
Festival is all talk.
Aki, the real risque one in the company, went in for the kiss to finally call her bluff and festival was left stuttering and flustered and fled rattling excuses.
All bark, no bite.

>>45838115
Come on man I'm not gonna wait all day

>>45838936
Wait I'm trying to buy the game but my credit card gets rejected

>>45839017
lol

>it's another dodge episode
You fucking faggot. You made me start this shitty ass game up for nothing.

Select your fighter

>>45839571
This art is so high effort it's crazy. Actually makes muscle girls appealing too, which most artists tend to fick up with hyper shit

>>45820999
>Kurokami install
Kino

>>45839571
>Literally everyone has huge tits, Gura and Ina included
But why tho

So did the anons not fight each other?

>>45839571
What an amazing piece of art

>>45737703
source?

see you fellas next thread