/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>455576
Yes, I do believe Kiara's an obnoxious queer

Kiara/Mori may be fake but Noel/Flare is definitely real. You can tell because they don't force it and just say stuff offhandedly without making it into some performative yuri shipping thing.
Kanata/Coco are also pretty clearly best friends, I don't think anyone even seriously ships them.

pls understand, /u/ schizos believe absolutely any girl and girl pairing, even if they are just friends, is a gay couple.

>>455576
I have zero problem not believing Kiara's roommate has had so many bad experiences with men she became a lesbian

>>455576
Aside from Kiara's gross yuri baiting, I like to think that the lesbian stuff that goes on between all the girls are similar to us guys who go "I love you bro no homo tho" and flirt as homies.

>>455614
take your meds /u/ schizo

the only real ones are Flare x Noel. others are pure bullshit

>>455576
Coco and Kanata totally fuck on the side but say no homo.
Takamori is totally made up but I can see Kiara pushing for it since that's kind of how Kiara is naturally as the lone extrovert out of the ENs.
Matsuri and Marine are also undeniably bi - their horny bursts are exaggerated for effect but real at heart.

>>455576
They have girlfriend/fake-wife relationships because that's approximately fifty million times safer than having them tool around with male vtubers in collabs etc.

I don't really mind it as long as it just happened naturally over time and doesn't feel forced. Kiara forced it fucking hard literally right away which indeed ruined the fuck out of it and made it utterly fake as fuck, one of a list of 100+ mistakes Kiara has made. Tete should be natural. Even Gura/Ame happened a bit too fast, and it's a good thing Ame tries to lowball that so it doesn't feel so fake. I think those two do appreciate each other a lot as friends but nothing actually-more than that. All this Holo tete stuff is basically like guys going "haha I love you bro no homo," it's the girl equivalent of that.

Ina/nobody is even better, because if she ever does get a close Holo friend, that would actually seem real and special compared to "LOL CALLI IS MY WIFE!!!!" from Kiara literally on the first fucking day. Some would already say "but nene!" but come the fuck on they've met in like 2 streams. It'll take a while for them to really chat and hang out to develop anything resembling a real friendship.

Lesbians don't exist.
There is nothing that can resist the cock.

all women are bisexual

>>455850
You wanna suck yourself then?

>>455850
anon... you like cock?

Korone/Okayu are just really really good friends who occasionally might kiss if they're drunk and are comfortable fooling around each other in the knowledge that they are both straight and waiting for a man to marry them one day. They just have good skinship.

>>456078
>and waiting for a man to marry them one day
>one day
Anon...I...

>>455936
>>456011
I said cock
Your weenies won't satisfy anyone

they get lesbian hypnosis when they join

>>456139
Your answer makes no sense to any of those questions

>>456078
weird considering their [HYPOTHESIZED/UNCONFIRMED/DON'T BAN] ages.

Did you guys know kiara is lesbian?

>>455576
NoeFlare is one that feels real.
OkaKoro probably isn't but if they outright said they were dating I'd believe it.
There's a few there I'd be surprised, but not that surprised by if they were real or if there were some one-sided crushes happening, especially among the awkward otaku that make up most of Hololive (a good number of who are probably actually bi or lesbo).
And TakaMori is on the very bottom end of "So fake that even if their roommates posted pictures of each other and called each other girlfriends I wouldn't believe it, fuck you."

whos even an unironic dyke besides Migobi?

>>456313
She's bi

I recognize Matsuris brand of autism and can say with 100 percent certainty that she genuinely has feelings for Luna. The unknown part is if it's reciprocated

They are LOVERS

>>455576
>you honestly believe this
Yes and there's nothing coping gachicucks on /vt/ can do to change this.

>>456392
None of Matsuri's feelings are ever reciprocated because she goes full menhara and calls them at 3am to gush about her attraction to lolis.
She's also not a lesbian, she collabs with Holostars and supports other male vtubers. She's just the type to fall in love with literally anyone that shows interest in her and doesn't care about gender.

>>456447
>She's also not a lesbian, she collabs with Holostars and supports other male vtubers. She's just the type to fall in love with literally anyone that shows interest in her and doesn't care about gender.
Okay yeah I should specify that I don't think she's straight up lesbian, but definitely bisexual

>>456395
In our imagination

>>455626
>>455674
>/u/ schizos
Stay in your containment thread.

>>456440
They are absolutely seething at the mere concept that a female can have feelings for another female and not their disgusting schizo selves.

>>455615
I could ship them as fwb

Noel and Flare is CONFIRMED.
Coco and Kanata sleep together and have matching rings; I'm calling that confirmed.
Korone and Okayu seem to at least be really good friends, but Korone did some groping on an off-collab; so that makes me think it might be legit.

>>456447
>goes full menhara and calls them at 3am to gush about her attraction to lolis.
God I wish that were me
Matsuri isn't even my oshi but that's true love right there, how can you reject it?
Also
>She's just the type to fall in love with literally anyone that shows interest in her and doesn't care about gender.
Or species AWFD

>>456141
Women don't need lesbian hypnosis anon

>>456518
>>455674

>>456522
Okakoro are more like co-dependent childhood friends. Their relationship is deeper than simple shipping.
Coco Kanata are just roommates and best friends that understand eachother well. The stuff they do together is actually too friendly to be construed as romance. There's no romantic intimacy between them like you'd have with romantic partners. Like the cartwheels during the 2nd fes and how they bought a 3D setup to make shitpost videos in their apartment, or Coco slapping Kanata's ass during that one stream. They just like to mess around and romance is almost nonexistent.
>>456538
>God I wish that were me
same dude it's not fair

>t-they are just forcing it! they can still love me!
Come on, you know just the slightly-above-average females have more chance with them than you EVEN IF they are not lesbians.

You can only see this kind of hard cope on 4chan because people here genuinely lack self-awareness.

>>456667
>There's no romantic intimacy between them like you'd have with romantic partners.
While I don't disagree with you, do you think either of them would seek out someone else? I feel like they both appreciate what they have now even if they're not "partners".

>>455576
>people
Only mentally ill subhumans.

>>456623
The other one is retired
Its not o

>>455576
Wrestling exists, how is bullshit like this even news to you?

>>455576
Did you know wrestling is FAKE?

>>456737
except nobody is talking about self inserting
people are just cringing at faggots like you who unironically fall for the yuri bait

>>456737
>people here genuinely lack self-awareness.
holy shit the irony of this post

>>456740
One thing a lot of men don't understand is women don't have that kinda dependency on relationships for affection or socializing. Women have large friend groups that fulfill their emotional needs while men crutch entirely on their romantic partners. So no, I don't think they'd ever date anyone else while living together. That doesn't mean they're romantically involved though, they just have no need for a partner when they're enjoying life with a lot of friends that are constantly coming and going in the Holohouse.

>>456518
I dunno. Over the years online I've seen more people on the internet seeth over heterosexuality and having their alphabet fantasies dispelled than the other way around.

>>456807
>One thing a lot of men don't understand is women don't have that kinda dependency on relationships for affection or socializing.

>>456667
Choco actually even commented that Coco and Kanata's relationship more resembles that of two guys living together, acknowledging that girls are usually way too involved in each other's business, whereas when observing those two together it's more or less a kind of "Sup." / "Sup." / "I grabbed you a bite to eat." / "Oh cool." / "Can I steal some cables?" / "Yeah, man, whatever." interaction between two people who are completely at ease around one another.

Coco and Kanata themselves talk about it in a similar fashion. They goof off together but then they give each other their space.

>>456762
there are people who unironically believe wrestling is real
same with "people" who believe in dyke pairings in hololive

>>456864
Emphasis on "that kinda dependency." Women have a different kind of dependency than that of men.

>>455576
Yuri sells even that forced takamori ship because /u/ schizos eat that shit up. I’ve never seen a group readily write their delusions after a single Gura and Ame interaction. it’s fake of course, OkaKoro are really good friends and Cocock + Tenshi are becoming really close friends. Noel and flare are the only ones that might be real. Do most guys even care about the Yuri shit?

Everyone in this thread is fucking retarded.

>>456794
>n-no u
How exactly was the post ironic, anon? You are trying too hard.
>>456769
>fall for the yuri bait
That's the point of vtubing. They are expecting you to fall for it and that's a healthy relationship between your oshi and her audience. They would only despise people like you for going online to say cringy shit like this to look like you are smarter than someone else.

>>456932
I don't know wether this is funny or sad.
I'll settle on sad for now.

>>456932
yurifag on full damage control

>>456807
Not everyone is as cucked as you, baby boy.

>>456807
Did your wife fuck a woman and make you watch it?

I'm not really familiar with the details; can I get a QRD on why you all think Noel x Flare might be real? The only /u/ thing that I've seen that seems plausible is Festival's apparent infatuation for Hoshikawa because the associated circumstances and amounts of money involved are too much for it to merely be written off as a joke.

>>457050
https://youtu.be/08qKTCtFRJA

>>456944
>>>/vt/Hololive Global
Do you know your little defense mechanism stops working when it's overused? I've seen you coping with this exactly same line for quite some times now and that's what's truly sad. You are either underage and genuinely mentally ill.
>>456977
>yurifag
What yurifag? You imaginary enemy does not exist. All normal fans adore the yuri interactions between holos and your little incel hugbox is completely alien to the fanbase and the holos themselves. This is why I said people like you lack self-awareness and think the world gives a single fuck about what happens in this little anonymous board.

https://youtu.be/-Ce2P_3MnIg?t=84
calli x ollie otp

keekihime

>>457130
That's not me you dumb persecution complex faggot, that's a common phrase. Google "funny or sad" and you get 778 million results.

>>456874
This, the way they act around each other is like real homies

>>457130
>all x fans
>incel
go back to wherever you came from, you clearly don't belong here

>>455671
This is the correct answer. They’re just having fun with each other, although the joke has gotten really tiring/stale now.

Even professional idols play the yuri bait card. And they do it for a reason.

>>457223
Man probably posts at r/SapphosFriend or whatever that shit reddit sub is given how snarky he is and using the word incel with reckless abandon. Reddit for sure

>>456078
This korone is slutty and hot.

Is it only yuri that upsets you people or any kind of shipping like interaction? I don't know how can you watch the more yuribaity chuubas and be upset by it, just go watch someone else

>>457130
>Do you know your little defense mechanism stops working when it's overused

Whereas the overused defense mechanism of getting massively defensive whenever the gayship is even remotely threatened has always worked, right?

keekihime

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkIw_8UB2Nw
HOLY CRINGE

>>457316
>can't call out cringe forced relationships used to milk retards for money becasue im gonna call you xyz
meds
now

>>457379
>>457397
abayo

>>457413
But I didn't call you anything

>>457427
You can't win against the CHAD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdFwTxSZTfY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdFwTxSZTfY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdFwTxSZTfY

>>457431
but you are one of those retards that get mad when somebody calls out this forced cringe bs

>>455576
People are really too stupid/sheltered to realize
>two women are friends
>two women sometimes realize they can pretend to be lesbians but this is only occasionally a thing
>retards online immediately start going ooga booga over “muh yuri”
Why are homoniggers so annoying?
Both yuritards and fujoshits need to die

>>457502
You can always watch someone who isn't forced cringe

>>457523
Same shit is happening with men too.
Everytime two best friends are part of a comic/cartoon/tv show/manga/anime dumbfucks immediately think they're in gay with each other.

This obsession is effectively erasing the concept of friendship annd way too many easily manipulated people buy into it.

>>457427
Cringe.

>>457609
It has to do with
>A
Retards that obsess over faggots, like Fujoshits
>B
Autismos that have never had a proper relationship with anyone in their lives and were exposed to sexuality too early in their lives so they think every relation has sexual connotations despite that not being the case if you’re a well adjusted person in society

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adrQ3q-L70Q
NIGGA

>>457609
At least with someone like Kaworu it makes sense even though I prefer Asuka

But I see so much art of like Naruto and Sasuke being gay for each other. I don't even watch that show, haven't since I was a kid but I know they were just friends

>>457130
Lmao you did the new post didn't you

You're more insecure than any of the anti yuri people

mikochi is definitely lesbian, though not in the romantic sense but lusting (exclusively) after girls

/polska/ overtakes this thread

i fuck a dog while he takes a shit

john paul second fucked petite children

>>457880
the second*
but the pope you respect

>>457784

>>456447
>She's also not a lesbian, she collabs with Holostars and supports other male vtubers
You know, all the gay dudes in my school only hung out w/ the girls, and barely with the dudes.

>>456667
>>456874
All of this is based on really old clips.
I genuinely believe they are fucking, Coco was already kind of a schizo about Kanata talking about her all the time but ever since her break it's different, Coco was in a really dark place and it's obvious Kanata helped her get through it, those matching rings mean more to them than what they actually say and my proof is that i've already noticed them lying once, but that is bound to happen when other holos start talking about you on their zatsudans, lies are hard to keep when multiple people are involved.
They'll never come-out because it could potentially scare away some of their gachikois, Kanata the other day was saying how she thinks she'll never get married but maybe in 10 years will marry one of her fans, that's clearly a joke but at the same time it's something said to milk donations.
I never really shipped them as anything other than friends until they started talking about how they sometimes sleep together on the same bed, then i saw that pre-hololive interview were Coco basically admits to being bi and now i can't help but think something is going on.
Of course i could be wrong, nobody will ever know the truth, so at the end of the day it's a pointless discussion.
But honestly, the level of adoration Coco sometimes displays when talking about Kanata isn't normal.

https://youtu.be/miy1O9QZcKM?t=10775
>I like angels who watch over me warmly
>Don't call me by any weird nicknames
>Everyone's talking about marriage
>But when I'm feeling down your gentle voice helps
This is the second time she has dedicated a love song to Kanata, by the way, not the first.

>>458224
do you think she knows?

>>457502
>what is kayfabe
Everyone knows it's for the show. You're acting like one of those people who gets mad about wrestling because it's fake

>>458390
Had to use warosu to find this.

>Itt: a buch of sad guys in denial

>>458831
about what precisely

I bet you /u/ guys think that Kane or Papa Shango were actually embued with supernatural powers too

>>458659

>>458224
>But honestly, the level of adoration Coco sometimes displays when talking about Kanata isn't normal.
Seems pretty normal to me, actually. I think you're maybe just too invested and seeing things that aren't there.

>>455576
old vtubers are probably straight, new ones that implies they enjoy watching vtubers, hence enjoy watching cute anime girls doing cute things. That's pretty gay for a girl.

>>455576
>you honestly believe this?
No, it's a work, but dummies like Kiara don't seem to understand that ship teasing only really works if it occurs organically and both parties decide to go in on it.

>>455576
I just thinks they are close friends who enjoy LARPing as couples. That is pretty common in Asian uni where I used to study. Girls calling other girls their husbands or daddies and acted like clingy couples aren't rare.

>>459110
/u/fags are smarks

>>455576
Kiara/Callie felt forced from the start, its cringet. At least OkaKoro and Flare/Noel are cute together, but I agree thinking any of them are legitimately gay for each other is silly especially since women typically are more open with each other than men.

I just remembered that in 9th grade we pretended to be gay with classmates. One guy started to hump the other guy in the ass and make stupid lewd gorilla sounds and then like 10 dudes do this to each other while girls and PE teacher were watching all this time. Wtf that was? Feels like a fever dream but it was not. Did you do this with your boys? I'm not gay.

>act like faggot in this thread
>get called faggot
>make literal no I thread in response
>get called a faggot there too
holy shit are y/u/rifags truly this easy, even in the most easily baited of boards you stick out like a sore thumb

What you need to know about holoships
>NoeFure is a legit relationship
>FestivaLuna was in the verge of becoming real until Matsuri sisterzoned Luna
>Everything else is fake yuribait (not counting pairings such as PekoMiko and OkaKoro who are just really close friends)

>>455576
I find it more arousing to think of straight girls getting in awkward sexual situations with each other

>>456078
Korone and Okayu are clearly close friends offline but the skinship stuff absolutely is exaggerated for the camera.

>>456078
If you've done your dox reps you would know Korone is probably done with marriages

>>460347
Please no

>>456078
Okayu openly stated that she wants to get married one day. There are no real lesbians in hololive, just women acting like women and MAYBE just MAYBE a girl or two that are bicurious at most and will end up marrying in the long run anyways.

>>455665
this desu desu

Everyone is fake gay except for Marine.

>>455665
well when you're literally a whore that sleeps with old men for money it's not surprising that you will meet some assholes

>>460575
>Okayu openly stated that she wants to get married one day.
To Korone or just in general?

>>460112
Matsuri is an idiot. Luna is just gonna move on but when Matsuri gets older and looks back she'll realize obsessing over Hoshikawa was a waste of her youth,

>>455849
Ina/Nobody otp

>>456807
Until those women reach a certain age, everyone is married with children and no one has time for them so they try to get married but late (usually called "Christmas cakes")

>>460761
based and senchoupilled

>>456828
lol

>>460575
>t-they are all gonna be good tradwives!
lel

>>455665
This. I always knew it was real

>>458224
Thanks anon, that was cute

>>455576
You do know these characters aren't real right?

>>455576
I still believe the ShubaLuna arc was genuine

>>458224
This is the type of delusions /u/ make.

>>460112
>FestivaLuna was in the verge of becoming real until Matsuri sisterzoned Luna
Elaborate

>>455576
I only belive in one thing.
Marine probably try to grop them all the time when she has chance.

>>455576
Serious question: do women really have way more physical interactions between them compared to men? I've never been around women so it's hard to tell

>>458224
>/u/ fags come out in full force yet again

>>460772
She said to someone that can make her laugh, it was in a very old stream, people replied asking about it and she said she wasn't gonna marry Korone.
>>460903
You're just in denial.

Okay guys. If Lesbian are attracted ONLY to women. Why they are using fake toy COCKS to fuck each other?

>>461106
They can, if they're both younger/girly-girl types. It's nothing really serious though, just playing around. Of course, people misinterpret that a lot.

>>461076
That's Matsuri.

>>461139
Because there's no penetration during lesbian "sex". Any attempt at doing so is replacing a dick with something else.

>>461049
I've been watching hololive since gen 3 debuts and have watched the vast majority of Kanata and Coco streams, i don't rely on clips.
I also said there's no way to actually know.
You come off as a schizo who is genuinely bothered by the idea of 2 girls being in a relationship, i'm not an /u/fag, in fact i don't really see any of the other pairings as anything other than friendships.
>>459400
Eh, i disagree, it's not something you'll understand if you started watching hololive a few months ago, you don't have the full picture.

>>461069
do your reps

>>461384
I always thought it was Matsuri that creeped out Luna by trying to be too close, was it the opposite?

>>461384
You should do yours first, Matsuri called her a sister several times before their supposed "falling out".

>>460772
>>461128
I'm going to marry this cat and there's nothing you can do to stop me
https://youtu.be/3IE9Cg1fLz8

>>461297
>You come off as a schizo who is genuinely bothered by the idea of 2 girls being in a relationship
sure, meanwhile you literally write novel tier posts about how XYZ are lesbos becasue you can't phantom the idea that they're using yuri bait to get money from retards like you

>>455576
I am not a /u/fag, since my annoying lesbian onee san has taken all the joy out of the idea of two girls having sex for me. But I am 100% sure that Hololive house is a shitty excuse, so that viewers wouldn't question Kanata and Coco living together. Pretty sure they are gay. Also, it seems that there was some breast sucking involved in the Shion/Marine sleepover. And out of all the fake gay couples like Takamori and shit, it seems that Flare and Noel might be regular dykes. Other than that, all the ships are yuribait.

If you have time to watch VTubers then I'm just going to assume you can't possibly have enough social experience to know what a good friendship looks like, and how it looks different from a romantic relationship.

>>455576
in my experience it's not uncommon for females to just talk to each other like that man.
they love that playing pretend/fake drama shit and they don't even see it as a big deal to say some surprisingly raunchy shit to one another

polka

>>461514
I shouldn't give you another (you) because you're clearly shitposting and aren't arguing in good faith.
You're calling KanaCoco yuri bait when they barely collab with each other.
If they are faking it for money they aren't doing a good job, you'd think they would actually use it for money and yet, as i already said, they barely collab with each other.
This will be the last (you) you'll get from me until you actually come up with an argument, which is something you still haven't done.
No, being cynical and calling me an /u/fag isn't an argument.

>>461718
>they HAVE TO BE lesbos you don't understand1111!!1!
fucking lol

>>461718
Coco would never risk PPT getting an army of angry chinks harassing her just for a random collab.

>>458224
>my proof is that i've already noticed them lying once
Can you elaborate on that? I'm genuinely curious

>>461523
take your meds

>>458224
>adult male is creating theories about 2 women being lesbians because they're friends
i can tell from your post that you never had female friends
for women the concept of best friend includes acting like dykes while no actuall lesbian stuff is happening

>rrat is that coco and kanata are living together because they are gay
>this logic does not apply to suisei though, or any of the other people that thought about being in holohouse
explain this

>>462036
I'll assume that you're not trolling and just new.
The Holohouse is not a house, it's currently two apartments. One of them has Coco and Kanata living in it, where each has their own room. The other has Suisei living with her sister. They're on the same floor. Other people moving in would be rent/buy other apartments, on the same floor or building.

>one step away from having sex on screen
>WHY YOU CREATING THEORIES
The amount of faggotry in this thread actually baffles me.

>>462154
>one step away from having sex on screen
What? When?

>>462154
>>one step away from having sex on screen
in today's episode of schizo delusions

My dream in life is to be a stud for any or all of the lesbian couples in hololive. It's a triple win as both me and them would fulfill our biological imperative, I get to see holos becoming a wholesome family and I don't have to take care of the kid.

>>462154
in real life in actual idol groups girls are often portrayed as lesbians while not actually being homo in order to sell more of their merch
same thing is literally happening in hololive and gullible idiots like you are perfect example of this behavior working

>>461801
Please anon, at least do basic research, this collab is only a month old.
https://youtu.be/mUOG2PKU1us?t=7581
https://youtu.be/yCEzW4MbgIU?t=7511
>>461822
During Coco's totsumachi on her return stream, Kanata entered her room and gave her a hug, at that point they said it was the first time both of them were wearing the rings at the same time.
A week before Coco's return stream, the first time Noel talked about KanaCoco's pair rings, she said she saw both of them wearing them when she visited their house, in fact it's the reason why she asked them about it.
Noel was jealous and ended up sending a message to Flare on discord about it, this is why Noel and Flare bought pair rings.
Here's the zatsudan where she talks about this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Skzqsp9vEEw
Noel also said she was surprised when she entered Coco's room because there's 3 Kanata tapestries, her entire room is covered in Kanata's merch.
I'll give you something extra:
Coco also has this in her room
https://twitter.com/kiryucoco/status/1289383598680768522
https://twitter.com/kiryucoco/status/1292999574781452289

It's quite ironic when someone who literally cannot comprehend females being together is a normal thing and not a big deal to call others "never having female friends". If you are an actual normalfag who interacts with real females you'd realize it's pretty normal for girls to get together these days. It's because you rely on the internet for your understanding of the world that you still think it's a big deal that a girl "come out as gay". Nobody even says that anymore.

Stop LARPing, jesus. I haven't cringed this much in a while.

>>462154
you're projecting your fantasies onto them and any interactions they have you automatically assume are happening because they're supposedly lesbians
absolute yuck you cringelord

>>462296
>Coco has her friend's merch in her room
wow that's crazy

>>462351
Even Noel who is obsessed with Flare thought it was too much.
Should i look for a subbed clip for you? we both know you're an EOP.

>>462301
You’re right, girls who actually hook up with each other don’t make a big deal about it.

Unlike the girls of hololive who act like the equivalent of females at the bar who say they’re bi and give each other a peck and then freak out for male attention

>>462296
>During Coco's totsumachi on her return stream, Kanata entered her room and gave her a hug, at that point they said it was the first time both of them were wearing the rings at the same time.
>A week before Coco's return stream, the first time Noel talked about KanaCoco's pair rings, she said she saw both of them wearing them when she visited their house, in fact it's the reason why she asked them about it.
>Noel was jealous and ended up sending a message to Flare on discord about it, this is why Noel and Flare bought pair rings.
>Here's the zatsudan where she talks about this.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Skzqsp9vEEw
>Noel also said she was surprised when she entered Coco's room because there's 3 Kanata tapestries, her entire room is covered in Kanata's merch.
>I'll give you something extra:
>Coco also has this in her room
>https://twitter.com/kiryucoco/status/1289383598680768522
>https://twitter.com/kiryucoco/status/1292999574781452289
Thanks anon. Whatever is their relationship, it's nice to see them so happy together

>>462423
Wrong. Crosssick and actual confirmed Vtuber couple always make a big deal about it. Even before they officially started dating.

>>461297
>Eh, i disagree, it's not something you'll understand if you started watching hololive a few months ago, you don't have the full picture.

>"Only esteemed holoscholars such as myself could have such DEEP, intuitive knowledge of the intimate behaviour of others that it would conform to my preferences."
Sure, this didn't at all sound like a massive attempt at coping and keeping your interpretations alive. Better yet is the sheer amount of ego in assuming that anyone who doesn't agree HAS to be a newcomer. As if someone who has been around just as long (or potentially longer for all you know) couldn't possibly think you're reading way too hard into things because you want it to be true.

>>462558
>Wrong.
really can't accept the reality buddy can you

>>462338
I don't actually care about what they do in their personal lives, but I just can't imagine the amount of insecurity it takes to have this big of a reaction over someone calling them lesbians. It takes more than a no-fun-allowed mentality to be this obsessed over proving some cartoon character in a fictional setting is not gay on the internet. If they act gay, then just assume they're gay. It's how normal people are supposed to think. You are triggered because for some reason you are scared of the concept that people refuse to mental gymnastics their way through the gay interactions and see them as what they are.

You must ask yourself deep down why it means such a big deal to you.

>>462593
Not an argument

>>462595
except literally nobody said anything that it's bad being lesbian or that there is something wrong with any woman who's a homo
this entire thread is about calling out those cringe forced pairings in hololive used to sell more merch to horny virgins like you, a tactic which obviously works judging by your posts

>>462301
I mean, if you've ever had a few friends that were in a relationship, you will realize that some are really open about it and rub it in your face on each occasion, while others barely show it, and sometimes you'll even think people are together when they are not, or the opposite. It's hard to say from a few hours of streaming at most each day, so everything here is speculation. And even if two girls said they were dating, people would start to say "it's not really dating" or something like that. I'm sure we could have a video of two girls having sex and people would still be in denial about them being in a relationship

>>462595
I'm just here to laugh at yurifags posting a paragraph to defend their ship to replies consisting of "lol nah that's pretty normal". No one even goes to either for parasocial GFE shit to begin with, it's literally just laughing at you

>>462558
>2 people represent the whole world
Sure buddy

>>462564
>Better yet is the sheer amount of ego in assuming that anyone who doesn't agree HAS to be a newcomer.
Am i wrong? you sound extremely new, and we all know the people who post on this board are mostly globalfags.

>>462614
still in denial i see

>>462595
>You must ask yourself deep down why it means such a big deal to you.
Aren't you the one who's been basically posting fat, chonky paragraphs of "AKTUALLY DEY GEY!" at the slightest inkling of pushback and doubt?

>>462296
>collab is only a month old
I don't watch any of them, whatever happened with the chinks I don't know, but it was pretty bad even on twitter not that long ago. Anyways if it died down it's a good sign.

>>462732
>Am i wrong?
Yes.

>you sound extremely new
Sorry, should I try to be more autistic like you and act intensely overprotective of my kinks while writing paragraphs at everyone?

>>462595
Cope yurifag. The “gay” ones are choking on their boyfriends cock each night

>>462749
>everyone who disagrees me is the same person
It's this kind of simple-mindedness that prevents people from enjoying yuri.

>>462833
>overprotective
When have i been overprotective? my first post was me saying i could be wrong and nobody will ever know the truth.
Please calm down anon, it's okay to disagree, i only rightfully dismissed you as a newfag (which you are) and an EOP (which you also are) because you did the same to my post, why bother putting effort in a reply if you're just gonna call me delusonal? boring.

>>462896
>everyone who disagrees with my fetish is simple-minded
It's this kind of retardedness that prevents humanity from advancing.

See? I can use weaksauce diversionary tactics too.

>>462966
>fetish
Nevermind.

>>462944
>i only rightfully dismissed you as a newfag (which you are)
I've been on 4chan since 2006, you hilarious mockery of intelligent life. I've probably been on the internet since before your fetal alcohol syndrome ass was even born.

>>455576
That what idol groups(irl) tend to do, right? Not really surprising.

>>463009
Good for you.

>>455576
I feel like Kiara has mentioned or nearly joked about dick too much to be actually gay

>>462821
it didn't die down, look at the start of this stream.
Chinks spammed it for like 30 minutes until Kanata changed the chat to member-only mode.
https://youtu.be/UZMamgPkWnI?t=231
But it is true that Coco is barely collabing nowdays because she doesn't want other members to get spammed.

>>463092
This is probably true, I'm gay and never makes jokes about vaginas

>>463118
Is it true that vaginas are to gays like crucifixes to vampires?

>>463024
>I've been on 4chan since 2006
Oh wow anon, i was clearly talking abolut newfag in the context of hololive, as in you started watching hololive mid 2020 at best, most likely you're an ENfag who hasn't even watched enough clips.
I'm arguing with a globalfag who has less hololive knowledge than the average redditor.

>>463159
I find them weird/not attractive, although my only exposure is in porn

>>463039
Yeah, if there's anything to learn from this board though, it's that people don't actually do their roommate reps and fall for the yuribait instead of the girls being actual faggots carpet munchers.

>>463174
Or, and take your time to process this as I know cognitive thinking mustn't be your strong suit, I was using that as an example to indicate that I've been involved with and am more aware of shit for much, much longer than a newfag roleplaying as some kind of vtuber historian.

>>463039
there's even a name for it but i forgot it, this thread is an example that it works

>>463224
If you did your roommate reps you'd know Towa and Coco are bi, plus Kanata was born in the wrong body and was always seen as a dyke, even in her utaite days.
>>463294
Oh anon... this is sad, just give up.

Stand aside, faggots.

>>463204
I don’t think many straight guys think vaginas look attractive

>kanata fag is a /u/ fag
this explains his denial and cope in every post
yuri fags really do need rope

>>463433
They're pretty boring to look at for the most part, yeah

>>459110
Papa Shango will come for you. Don't joke around.

You faggots remind me of kpop stans who over analyze every single thing and ship members together... Yes kpop idols also play up their bisexuality to bait in horny teenagers.

>>462595
>people refuse to mental gymnastics their way through the gay interactions and see them as what they are.

>>463433
>>463485
Well I guess my experience isn't really unusual then

>>463448
I bet you had to google "utaite"

>>463159
They're more like running water or entering a home without an invitation desu.

>>459110
You act like people don't hate when wrestlers are get pushed to the top for no reason.
>roman reigns got booed for years

>>463558
>you had to google a word that's not even in the post

>>463535
People who unironically ships real people they don't know together are generally massive faggots and/or retards, so I'm not too surprised.

Ame x Gura are cute together. Doesn't make them bi or lesbians, they could be, who knows. But their interactions are no indication for either really. I enjoy watching it and that's it.

I'm literally having sex with Coco and Kanata RIGHT NOW

I think good pairings are those who don't even try to bait at all like MariFlare or GurAme. The pairing doesn't overshadow the personality and they can have a normal conversation.

>"/u/fags" use arguments and provide streams as sources
>/u/ schizos just reply to each other without using any real arguments.
Arguing in this board really is easy mode as it gets, almost nobody here knows what they are talking about.

>>463684
shut up Suisei

>>463684
Impossible, I'M having sex with them right now
Unless....?

>>463789
>no one wants to engage with my retarded and overly specific worldview so I'll pretend I won

>>463789
>clueless /u/fags can ask for source and get good content
I like it

>>463629
That's what crippling retardation does to a man

>>463909
>Greentext
>Woja- i mean Watame image
You should at least try to hide your /v/ermin roots anon, it's not something to be proud of.

>>464048
>Greentext
>Woja- i mean Kanata image
You should at least try to hide your /v/ermin roots anon, it's not something to be proud of.

>>464048
>insulting Watame

>>463789
it's funny watching yuri fags fall for classic idol tricks
you're no different than kpop fags who spend days arguing that each idol is a lesbo or gay becasue they looked at eachothers for 2 nanoseconds or said something

>>464048
>HE USED GREENTEXT
>ON 4CHAN

>>464048
>/u/ fag in full cope

>>464170
>>464171
>>464173
>>464204
>>464219
>Not a single argument again
kek

>>464248

>>464248
yurinig chimps out yet again

>>464171
>Calling out sheeposters is insulting Watame
Take your meds anon

>>464248
>G-GIVE ME AN ARGUMENT!111!!1
you never gave any arguments yourself
or do you think your schizo /u/ rants count as arguments?

>>455576
Literally couldn't care less if it's real or not

>>464248
>arguing

>>464173
>>464248
It is funny watching the attempt to remain smug as they get baited into defending their delusion in the thread about their delusion though.
Like, thanks bro, this is exactly what I wanted when I clicked on the thread. Can't even realize he's the punchline, a perfect lolcow grazing on the grass.

What is it about Hololive in particular that attracts mental illness across the entire spectrum?

>>464546
One part anime fandom, one part people obsessing over celebrities

>>464546
Same thing with idolfags and sonicfags. Pretty colors.

>>464546
the cross of anime bullshit, keyfabe, GFEs/parasocial spooks and actual things happening irl sometimes all clash together and leads to people trying to generate the fabled rrat to make sense of the intersection between all of these aspects that should otherwise be separated. They then buy into these rrats and believe that their anime reality supercedes actual reality. Sometimes it does, but that's almost exclusively shit with no plausible anime deniability like whatever it is Matsuri had going on.

>>455576
ITT: What is kayfabe?

>>461069
How should I begin? Festivaluna has to be one of the most interesting Holoarcs to have witnessed. I was there to see it progress with /hlg/.
Debut-era Luna was pretty much a slump, shy about initiating collabs and always sticking to solo. (Just like Korone before she had her own character arc last year) It was Festival who reached out to Luna, helped her get around with colleagues, teach her the basics and lend her a hand when she was having a rough patch. They became really good friends, Luna started growing dependant on Festival, and the latter who's still suffering from the aftershock of getting BTFO by pic related, starts flirting and teasing with Luna. Stuff ensues, they keep mentioning each other in their own solo streams, late night texting, getting each other gifts etc. all the good stuff that leads to the forming of an intimate relationship. While all of this is going on Matsuri talks about how much she cares about Luna, and how she doesn't want to creep her out, how she's socially retarded (Matsuri's situation is pretty tragic in the way that she's a real lesbo in the vtuber industry, who are full of women "acting" like lesbos)
Whatever happened afterwards is a bit of a shadow to all of us. In all of a sudden they stopped talking to each other/collaborating, even fucking mentioning their names INDICATING that they had the "talk" on how they want to move their relationship forward. Matsuri goes on hiatus, leading everyone to believe something happened with Luna. Baby princess celebrates her birthday in the meanwhile. Matsuri comes back with a cover + MV she paid from her own pocket that heavily implies the relationship between her and Luna to be nothing more than "sisterly." Luna doesn't acknowledge the video or Matsuri's tweets at all. Matsuri retweets said video 5-10 times. Luna ghosts Matsuri for weeks... Until they're finally back on speaking terms again. Are they as good friends as they were? Who knows. But Luna really likes to take a jab at Matsuri's shitty behavior. Matsuri once asked her why she never replies to her LINE messages, and Luna outright said "When I open LINE I always have to see your Hoshikawa icon at the top" FOLLOWED by a cover of a song called 3 Years of Infidelity.
Here's a clip if you want to see that exact moment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUlc5AmXNpw
Also the MV Matsuri prepared for Luna.
https://youtu.be/JonQ09L2N0U

kiara is so annoying

>>465602
>that entire post
yurifags truly are mentaly ill

>>465602
>Matsuri comes back with a cover + MV she paid from her own pocket that heavily implies the relationship between her and Luna to be nothing more than "sisterly." Luna doesn't acknowledge the video or Matsuri's tweets at all. Matsuri retweets said video 5-10 times. Luna ghosts Matsuri for weeks...
>Matsuri once asked her why she never replies to her LINE messages, and Luna outright said "When I open LINE I always have to see your Hoshikawa icon at the top" FOLLOWED by a cover of a song called 3 Years of Infidelity.
This is just sad, a classic example of being attracted to people that don't care about you and not being attracted to people that are attracted to you. Thanks for the write up

There's like 30something holos? It's unlikely they are all straight

>>465379
lol

I'm not sure what to think of OkaKoro. On one hand Korone and Okayu definitely love each other enough for marriage, on the other Korone is a traditionalist who hates homos.

This thread is too fun, do another wall of unhinged rant please.

>>466411
I think you need to lurk more anon

>>455615
I ship Kanata and Coco as besties and a couple, mostly because of the stories of how Coco just sometimes says she needs a hug from a trustworthy friend

>>460347
doxfags need to be shot

>>466411
Korone has kids anon

Let's be a little real for a second: There are 32 Holos in JP, 7% to 9% LGBT in Japan. If it's 7% there 93^32% = ~10% of chances that all of them are straight, if it's 9% there's 91^32% = ~5% of chances that all of them are straight.
That's assuming being LGBT is equally distributed in all parts of the population.
The odds are not great for people that think they're all straight

>>kiara: ohohoho im a LESBO did you know that im a LESBO and i FUCK Cali???? did you know that we FUCK becasue we are LESBO????
yes

I just want Matsuri to find her vtuber love and be happy. I think she still has a good chance with Fubuki. They are very cute together.

>>461710
lol

>>466733
Fubuki will probably be seduced by Gundou, same as Hoshikawa

>>466733
I hope she'll learn to deal with her emotions and find peace, she seems like a mess right now

>>455615
Coco and PPT shit talk each other like a married couple.

>>465743
and orange

>>465602
https://files.catbox.moe/quupug.mp4

>>466839
Orange is actually good, it's wasted on her

This thread is just schizos that think they have a chance at fucking their oshi arguing with schizos that think their oshi considers their genmates more than coworkers.

>>466816
There is no way to find peace with not finding love other than to find it.

>>467010
True, although in her case it's more about accepting the love she could already have (Fubuki, Luna) and let go of the love she wishes she had (a certain blonde girl from Nijisanji)

>>465602
Now that's a rrat I can get behind, hell you even pretented like Luna was knew to this shit and not ex-niji.
Also there's no competing with DJ Sara, it's just the truth.

>>466733
>I think she still has a good chance with Fubuki
What is this? 2019? They don't even talk that much anymore. Also the thing she had with Fubuki was kayfabe, her feelings for HSKW and Luna were real.

>>467300
>Also the thing she had with Fubuki was kayfabe
I've heard that a lot of their interactions were forced for the chinese market

>>466733
I hope so, I don't like MioFubu at all but I'm already seeing it again after their recent collab. Mio's best with her viewer.

>>467412
Mio and Fubuki feel like good friends but not much more honestly

>>467434
Same with Subaru, Mio really doesn't partake in this lesbo thing, she was very surprised after doing a collab with noefure because it seemed so real.

>>467475
Good for me, it's easier to see her as a surrogate mom for me this way

I'm willing to believe it's happened, with so many of them living together and spending 95% of their time together some of them are bound to sleep together, especially given a good few are openly/obviously at least bi. But to the extent it is real it probably won't last forever; most girls are bisexual but ultimately prefer men when thinking about marriage/long-term, so either they'll go their separate ways with no hard feelings or if one of them is actually gay she'll get her heart broken in the end (RIP Matsuri).

>>467629
>with so many of them living together
There are Coco and Kanata, and Suisei and her sister. I'm not aware of anyone else living together. I think Noel's house is not far from where Flare lives? Not denying the rest though. For Matsuri I don't know if it's about being gay or just being hopelessly in love

Why do so many retards not understand that Takamori has always been a skit?

>>467691
Matsuri is the female version of a virgin pervert, it's for real, but she would back out if anyone actually reciprocated.

>>467866
Virgin pervert and incel, her attitude towards Hoshikawa reeks of inceldom

I'M GOING TO FUCK EVERY MEMBER OF HOLOLIVE. WITH MY COCK

>>468047
Why would you want to have a cockfight with every member of Hololive anon?

>>455576
The problem with /u/fags on this board is that they aren't content with just shipping something as a fan concept separate from the actual vtubers, they need it to be actually real. So they argue about which ship is "more real", it's an ego thing. If they just created content and admitted it was non-canon and didn't start petty arguments over headcanon shit it'd be fine.

>>468149
I think /u/fags are just tired, I know I am.

>>468149
>non-canon
In what ways can you interpret something like takamori as not canon and official? They were literally designed to be a couple like a lot of holo couples. Stop trying to mental gymnastics your way through what was INTENDED by the hololive project. Also, only the most insecure and obnoxious faggots use words like "headcanon".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXD4BbYludc

>>462173
>>462250

FBK/Festival

>>468363
and?
you're going to write yet aonther schizo wall of text trying to justify your delusions?

>>455576
I get tired of them pretending to be gay sometimes too. Doesn't mean you have to try and shit on peoples annoying fetishes onii-chan.

Besides; if they acted straight you've call them all whores

>>468327
>literally /u/fag seething that somebody dares to call out his shit fetish

>>468327
Okay, aside from TakaMori then, such as AmeSame or InaAme. I'm referring to non-canon material here. Don't use Lulu for shitposting. Headcanon is a general term used to describe personal interpretations of a character. If you aren't told the favorite color of a character you like, and you interpret it to be blue - that's a headcanon. That's a small example, but you see what I mean. Pushing your personal interpretations of characters (or in this case, streamers) onto others is just ego if no official sources indicate that your headcanon is correct.

>>465602
Glad Luna got out. Matsuri is a cuck.

>>468327
TakaMori is obviously "canon" in that it's an intended part of their characters; doesn't mean their roommates actually date IRL.

>>468327
>literally designed to be a couple like a lot of holo couples
You mean designed as yuribait? Because yeah, corporate pre-planned yuribait is still you being baited by yuri. That's the whole point.

>>468391
This is not an argument against my assertion that FBK and Festival were close to fugging on stream

>>468604
Proofs

>>468391
>clip watching EoP spouting "delusions" every time he gets a chance
Do you actually not realize just how uncomfortably annoying and obnoxious you are? Does it have something to do with the way you grew up stuck on a feedback loop of acting obnoxious as a defense mechanism and other people's hate for you gradually accumulating?

God I swear yurihaters are the most uncomfortable people to be around with in general. They literally cannot communicate normally without pathetic attempts of ad hominem to make themselves look better every chance they get.

>people make actual arguments using real content as evidence
>bitter little kid just screams the same thing every time as a "comeback"
How can the human character of some people be just... so bad?

Anyway, you are clearly a newfag for not knowing how far they went and I see it's kinda pointless spoonfeeding newfags with horrifying attitudes.

>_oomer
out.

>>468768
>irrelevant 3 paragraph response
So that's a yes to the schizo wall of text then?

>>468768
>I got nothing
There I made your post better

>>455576
It's like wrestling. We know it isn't real, and constantly pointing it out only makes you look like a nerd.

>>455576
Nijisanji's CrossSick seems pretty real.

>>468363
Arent Oga and fubuki closer to fucking than Festival and fox when was the last the latter had a collab

i know they aren't IRL lovers obviously but they ARE close friends with cute and fun interactions.
also the yuri art is hot as fuck so who cares.

It's cute when Kiara gushes over Mori and cute when Mori starts getting excited about doing things with Kiara. They're sweet together and I'm cheering for Kiara's love to succeed!

they still aren't gonna fuck you you know

>>468327
>They were literally designed to be a couple

>>460575
Miko try to hard to look like a lesbian, the only thing left is to openly say she wants to have a dick to fuck a pussy

>>455665
/thread

>>457784
I like how Miko has openly stated she does not care for dudes but still doesn't try to kayfabe a ship with another girl.

>>476008
What is pekomiko?

>>476333
not intentionally portrayed as a romantic relationship by miko or pekora