/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>46815691
>Holomem have the right to collab with males.
And I have the right to call them whore for that!

>>46815691
Based Goombus, this is why i love her

>>46815691
Kson agrees with you.

>>46815691
Unfortunately for Gura, she does not have the right, only the privilege. That privilege can be withheld by management.yjk that yagoo is seething that his most popular talent refuses to even acknowledge an entire branch of his talents, costing him market share to Nijisanji.

Yes?

>>46815691
Based positive IQ anon

>>46815802
Did you learn this in a dream sister?

>>46815802
Yagoo only cares about starsjp

"COVER Corporation fully supports all of our talents’ activities"
and Mori thought she's winning

I think she really doesn't like the changing direction, along with a bunch of the JPs. 2024 will be a very interesting year for Hololive.

>>46815834
Anyone with common sense and an understanding of how capitalism works. It's not a coincidence that after luxiems wild success that Cover Corp had to quickly respond with a male EN branch of their own. Gura refusing to collab with them is a clear loss for Tempus to expand its popularity and the effects can be seen today, with holostars still struggling to reach any substantial numbers. Management likely tried pressuring Gura to consider collabing but she refused and it caused her to lose faith and lowered her desire to stream. All this happened as Cover was preparing for IPO and needed to have the best numbers possible for investors.

You must be blind not to connect these dots.

>>46815972
Good theory not really if StarsJP never existed. Yagoo always wanted a successful m*le branch. StarsID will be a thing.

>>46815691
What's this, a disgusting centrist on my extremist shitflinging board? Unacceptable!

Watching Tempus never say Gura's name or explicitly acknowledge her existence is pretty funny tho. It's as if management straight up told them to never say her name.

>>46815691
Real

>>46816337
It's pretty simple:
Hololive girl never talked to any Holostsrs member? You don't mention her to respect her wishes

>>46816406
Not true. Tempus has mentioned Ina, Mumei, Fauna, Irys, and Kiara before any public interactions. Meanwhile, Gura seems to be completely off limits for even a relevant name drop like before her 3D showcase, the stars were ending their streams for her 3d and they just kept saying "a senpai's 3d", "a en senpai's 3d", etc. but won't say her actual name a single time.

>>46815802
yagoo cant do shit, Marine/Pekora/Lamy/Kanata and a few others hold the real power and it's pretty clear Gura is becoming part of that too

>>46815972
If rising star Kobo couldn't save them, dead subs Gura would not save them either.
It was fool's errand in trying to make tempus succesful.

>>46815802
>costing him market share to Nijisanji
People that want to see cuck shit watch nijiEN.
Also NijiEN isn't even doing well lately. Even Luxiem lost a shitload of viewers because of NijiEN's non stop series of yabs these past 3 months.

>>46815972
>after luxiems wild success
Luxiem's numbers are in the gutter since Vox's yab. Fucking Kobo fucking mogs them these days.

>>46817057
>>46817079
Luxiems struggles are a recent development. As it was happening last year it was like nuclear armagedon was falling on hololive. Luxiem was raking even more money than the top holo girls and sucking up all the female market like a vacuum in a money vault. The response from Cover was drastic, swift, and severe, with two new male gens in the span of 7 months.

Yjk those board meetings were filled with panic, tension, and anger.

>>46816781
The joint operation between Omega (Regis), Jenma (Gura and Kiara's words "best EN manager") and Gura herself ain't something short of finality.
https://twitter.com/omegaalpha_en/status/1431010639250563075

Gura NEVER followed any of the StarsJP (her senpais) and ate all the hate comments like a boss, she has that right. Acknowledging Tempus now would make her a hypocrite.

>>46816946
>hold the real power
people in /vt/ unironically think talents hold any sort of executive power even after the 2 top earners got graduated/terminated lol.

>>46815802
I see, well then why hasn't he done that yet

>>46817560
This.

>>46817682
It's a balancing act, you want your talents to be happy so they can keep on making you money, but also you want to extract as much value out of them as possible. Clearly management has concluded that the upside of hitting Gura with an ultimatum to collab with males is not worth the downside of risking her to leave or cause trouble. But make no mistake Cover is cutting the checks and if they wanted to they could do whatever they wanted, not without consequences of course.

>>46815691
> They also have the right to deny their existence.
They are going to be losing this right VERY soon as Cover will begin fighting off unicorns because of their continued harassment of their talents

>>46818263
Yeah yeah commiebro, keep at the rrat you are so, so desperate to push. It's mostly you responding over and over again saying the same shit.
Nevermind that Gura was a lazy bitch BEFORE Tempus debuted. I guess Ame used her time travel to let Gura see the future?
Not that I give a shit about Tempus mind you, you are simply using them as a tool to attack management and Cover as a whole, it is clear as day.

>>46815691
They also have the right to stream but choose not to

>>46815691
Can i call holomem that deny boys existence as faggot then?

>>46818429
But you are the faggot anon.

>>46818383
I'm not attacking them. Notice that I not once criticized Cover or said they were wrong. This is just the reality all expanding companies go through. This is capitalism. Grow bigger and expand, or stagnate and wither away. Cover is expanding and they want to build and diversify revenue sources. Naturally old fans might not like it but if they can replace him with two new fans then it works out nicely fr the bottom line.

>>46818383
>constantly using Gura to defend Cover
What a fucking bootlicker. Also nice revisionist history. Cover is blatantly changing direction and a bunch of talents aren't on board, and it's not just Gura. Now in any other job, when you don't like the direction of the company, you just leave for another job. So far those that disagree still stay just to keep face for the time being.

>>46818575
Or you could stop being a whiny faggot and admit shark is just lazy and has been for a very long time.
Which is fine with me, she can be a mascot who sells merch who doesn't stream. Just don't be delusional about it retard.
Antis will always try to invent drama, your game is old and frankly tiresome.

>>46818734
Antis of what? Fucking Cover? Of course it would benefit your faggot ass that the lazy narrative sticks. I don't want her to be a mascot. I want her to leave the sinking ship and do her own thing. Why the fuck should she stay and keep Cover's face pristine for your dumb asses when you use her as a decoy punching bag at the same time anyway?

>>46818383
>>46818575
>>46818734
>>46818796
>cover stand seething
>gura fans making
>meanwhile nijisanji rubs their hands together

>>46815691
Does Gura have the right to ban the word "stream" from her chat?
Because that's what she did LOL
I will never forgive chumbuds for what they did to Finana, after Gura turned out to be this thin-skinned.

>>46819098
Who is attacking Cover and therefore all the talent here anon? You can acknowledge Gura's choice without using her choice as a tool to attack the company, which is what antis do.
It would not surprise me in the least if they are Nijisisters pretending to be Chumbuds since that is seen as an easy weak spot to exploit at the moment after all the Connect the World hype and their Covid concert being cancelled.

>>46815691
It doesn't matter which way they sway of they don't stream

>>46819126
What did gura fans do?

>>46819126
>simping for finana
BAHAHAHAHAHA THIS IS WHAT GURA ANTIS ARE? FUCKING RYUGUARDS? why don't you go support your fish brained menhera instead of shitting up threads? is your oshi so shit you cant even sit through her VODs? KEK

>>46819506
They gaslighted her in minecraft

>>46817560
>he seriously thinks the rest of them didnt form an action group after the top 2 were terminated

>Marine, Pekora, Gura etc didnt suddenly start getting everything management had refused to allow them in the past

Oh surely management just decided to let them do them out of the kindness of their corporate hearts

>>46815691
based

>>46819543
Explain, what's wrong with Finana?

>>46815691
NOOOOOOOOOOO YOU'RE AN INCEL

>>46820766
Unironically educate yourself please

>>46815691
except she's denying their existence not for the benefit of her fans, but because her bf is the jealous type. she had no problem with collabing with males before :^)

>>46815691
Seems fair. So what?

>>46821367
And excluding that?

>>46821415
Proof?

>>46815753
And people have the right to call out morons like you.
And you have the right to say fuck you in retort.
And others have the right to point out that's not a retort.

>>46822061
There never is.

>>46822061
Faith don't need proof.

>>46815691
Women don't have rights.

>>46815691
yes, but the latter is stupid and autistic.

>>46815691
This is the correct take and anyone who disagrees is a cunt. Talents should be free to manage their own brand.

>>46821974
We don't like her because she is clearly a lying bitch and doesn't even hide it
At first she was the most anti-parasocial even in NijiEN but when her views started dropping she did multiple gfe erotic ASMR and coomers forgave her

>>46827502
women are cute when they're stupid and autistic.

>>46815691
>Holomem have the right to collab with males.
And I have the right to call them manipulative whores and cancel my membership and unsubscribe.

>>46829453
we did not need you as a member anyway there are 1,000 people that will take your place in a day.

>>46827965
>gfe erotic ASMR
is it any good?

>>46815691
Yeah, but the latter fills your fanbase with mentally ill people who will turn on you as soon as you inevitably breath the same air as a penis haver

>>46827502
Why? It's smart decision.

>>46830221
And the former won't watch your stream while pushing away your free money.

>>46830823
It depends, Suisei is doing just fine and I respect her more than the ones who got big by farming unicorns

>>46830823
that guy acting like beggars aren't toxig fucks that attack people that don't go their way.

>>46831382
Like I give a fuck.

>>46829453
Won't insult but would stop supporting and watching, as long as they don't do a flip flop with their audience i don't care.

>>46818383
>t. Nijifag
Holofag care about holomem, cover is just an agency supporting them, if holomem didn't exist cover also didn't exist unlike nijisanji. Shitting on gura pretty must make you a dumbass. The talents are free to do what they want, stream once a day or once a year, that their freedom to do so, their fan also free to support them or not.

There's no polemic or scandal, they are not forced to do or not to do

>>46832650
pretty much*

>>46832650
hmm i support Gura ignoring the homos, but at the same time i never was nor will ever be a chumbud or enthusiast with her.

>itt:

>>46815691
>Holomem can do whatever they want
wtf is the point of this thread.

>>46828135
this.

>>46822061
Im him

>>46828135
She went WAY past the point where her autism can be considered cute.
Her minecraft collab gave me second hand embarassment

>>46829769
It's fine

>>46815691
Correct.
Unicorns and homobeggars should both be mass genocided.

>>46833424
she got her targeted public set already, only wants to make Heimins happy no other fandoms :DD

>>46815972
>is a clear loss for Tempus to expand
lmao are you serious, I actually think the collabs did more harm than good. How much more leeching do you think they need, their numbers didn't improve after the collabs, actually it seems like they just got worse.They even collabed with twitch streamers and that didn't seem to help, either. Personally, I stopped watching them after the collabs, before that I followed almost every stream.
Just having talents do shit that part of the fanbase doesn't like isn't a winning play. Now I would say THOSE effects are felt to this day, with the fanbase standing as it is.

>>46833424
kys unicorn

>>46834413
How tf am I a unicorn? I meant that Kanata stubborningly prying money from
the hands of sad and lonely people at all occasions is embarassing

>>46815691
Based

>>46835355
She simply doesn't want to pander to the opposite end, she already choose to die in that hill, big respect for not flip floping.

>>46833318
god i want to fuck her brains out

is fes just short for festival?

>>46835355
kys homobegger

>>46835355
Oh never mind you're a tranny
YWNBAW

>>46817266
Tempiss killed the EN male market just by being cringe.

>>46815691
>holomems have the right to upset part of the fanbase via a change of product
Sure, they are the owner of the product after all. Customers have no right over that, all they can do is either support it or choose not to.
>they also have the right to deny their existence
You mean continue to be consistent with the product they'd been offering for years to their established fanbase? I hope so.

>>46816337
Except they have said her name on like 4 occasions, earliest one being bluehomos mortuary assistant stream early on after debut, and most recent one during the homostream of them watching holofes convention cosplay shit, I don't get why retards spam this when it's not true.

>>46836710
What do you mean, it looks like every group is dying.

>>46815691
enjoying the gura ztreams anon?

>>46838516
Not mentioning everything that tempiss ruined isn't technicaly wrong, just an euphemism on how bad of an impact they did have.

>>46815691
Based

>>46815691
Are they going to kill men?

>>46815691
Isn't it a little weird to deny their existence though? Seems like overcompensating.

>>46816781
>>46817444
wrong and wrong, they do mention her and Gura HAS acknowledged the JP homos even called them ''senpai'' but typical chumbuds deflect and pretend that it doesn't exist.
https://streamable.com/2p5si0

>>46849494
Nah, only a normie or a beggar would be concerned about them not being mentioned.

>>46816781
Axel, Flayon and Hakka all said Gura’s name and interviewed a girl cosplaying as Gura on Axel’s channel. It was a stream touring the expo.

>>46815753
This… they can feel free to collab with males, but then they should expect their viewership to go down because historically that’s what happens literally every time, even kobo who was the golden child gets a similar CCV to her genmates despite having triple the subscribers, and lets not even talk about ollie’s insane decline

>>46815753
i wouldn't insult but at the same time would dropp and not watch or support at all. moving on to a chuuba that provides what i seek

>>46815691
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6-lDqGZJ_0&t=50s
Most importantly

>>46849696
It doesn’t because no one cares outside of /vt/. Kronii’s Uno collab last night had like 16k viewers. Anyone who wasn’t from here that got chased off were just jacking off to her voice anyway.

>>46850454
Actually it had 21k, beating Gura's latest ''return'' streams which mindbreaks certain faggots on this board.

>>46850587
K so where are those viewers in their solo streams? You're not gonna tell me they're just tourists, right?

>>46815691
>Holomembers have the right to deny the existence of males
Sure, agreed.
>Holomembers have the right to collab with males
So why are you guys having hysterical spergout meltdowns every time this happens? I thought it was their right to do so if they wanted?