/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*ruins your board*

>>4712243
But he didn't do anything.

Hololive and especially not HoloEN do not make up the entire vtubing hobby, despite what Globalfags would have you believe.

I don't really mind him
As long as the girls stay away from the vtweeters and artemis I don't mind

>>4712280
You’re right. It’s definitely more so Mori’s fault

The people that are mad at him are a minority.
People are mad at Calli because she never puts in effort when collabing with her colleague. But suddenly she's collabing with a fucking cancer e-celeb ironic weeb and she's actually enthusiastic and putting in effort for once.
She basically spat in the face of her senpai who built up everything for her.

>>4712309
>watching vtubers
>hobby

>>4712243
He's done less than connor. I use to watch this guy a few years back. He isn't bad. People are mad at Mori.

>>4712243
What race is this?

>>4712280
Agree.
It's Mori the one that should be blamed.

>>4712448
Thai mix?

>>4712243
This applies to both anime and vtubing.

>>4712369
Oh?

>>4712243
HoloEN wouldn't exist without him, don't forget that! He's responsible for meming Hololive into popularity!

>>4712243
He donated to Coco's 3d debut so he's been watching vtubers for at least nearly a year.

>>4712369
I could care less because I despise Gura
Even so, people getting upset about this are retarded

>>4712415
Yeah
You can complain to OxfordLanguages if you don't agree

>>4712651
I surely don't do this for pleasure. I do this because of the culture war.

Based
Get a real hobby, cuckbeats

>>4712243
His content is the same opinions all other anitubers regurgitate, and his fans are dogshit retarded. For some reason they call anyone who didnt like the collab an incel, even though that had nothing to do with him being a male. I fucking hate retards who blindly worship celebrities

>>4712243
Based. Your oshi doesn't love you anon. She will collab with males if she wants to. Adapt or perish.

>>4712836
>She will collab with males if she wants to.
My cute oshi Noel is never doing any collabs with males
Cope

>>4712448
Half Bri'ish half Thai?

>>4712891
Stop falseflagging

>>4712945
>Thai
explains why he looks like faggot

>>4712448
Earl Gray Vanilla Chai

>>4712891
Even if she doesn't, it isn't because of you. After all, she doesn't even know who you are.

>>4712526
nice post gigguk

>deadbeats trying to deflect the argument into it being about collabing with a man instead of Calli not giving a damn about her fucking job enough to put in the effort to collab with actual vtubers, learn five of her senpai's names and do a quick search to learn fucking ANYTHING about Reine

Given that Cover is okay with these collabs, I can't wait for en2.
>only one, maybe two of them will know japanese
>no minecraft or any other fun collab game, they're gonna pick up some degenerate shit
>one of them will definitely be talking about her sex life
>constant yabs, much more serious than any shit that Towa, Mori, or Ollie did
>one will go too far and get political, resulting in a graduation, then the others will double down and cause cover to pull ouf of western market

>>4712280
that's true, mori is the on at fault

>>4712243
I would let Gigguk have sex with my wife

>>4713541
>cover to pull ouf of western market
Easy there zhangchama. The western market isn't anything like bug land and nowhere near unified. For Cover to be exiled from the western market they'd have to do some EXTREME YABAI shit. Like those "banned from the internet" videos kind of bad.

>>4712891
Because she doesnt want her husband to get jealous.

>>4712315
>>4712486
>>4713678
lmao these stone cold responses. This board is a fucking trip

>>4713507
Anon, let's not pretend that a lot of people aren't pissed that its a real life male she collabed with. People were always going to be pissed on this idolfag board.

gigguk is pretty based tho, he shaped most of my anime tastes including my vtuber preferences

>EN shit
>Ruining anything
Who cares just learn nip already lol

>>4713880
Pretty simple enough responses to what’s being suggested. Majority aren’t mad at Gigguk, they’re mad at Mori, simple as that

>>4712303
Yeah they do they're the face of vtubing.

>>4713934
>lot of people
They’re the minority. There’s more seething because it’s Gigguk. You’re right there’d be some angry posters if it was a guy in general but not to the same extent

>>4714069
This

>>4713934
A small fucking minority of people. Most didn't care that it was a male, their issue was that it was an anituber. Even if you read the comments on the video, dispite all the fags using their favorite world (incel), no one made an issue of it being a male, remember the rikka collab was very well received, dispite all the retards running damage control before the collab stream because it was a holostar

>>4713746
This seems to be the prevailing feeling of all deadbraps. They must really love NTR.

>>4714197
they are mad that her content improved after she was criticised for bad content? Mad at Mori for collabing with a man? gtfo

>>4712836
>Adapt or perish.
This is exactly what people are trying to gatekeep, and I agree. Faggots like you need to go.

>>4712243
This is on Mori, not him. He actually did a good job with the collab. Haven't seen any yab this bad since Niggasanji EN.

>>4712243
he's relentlessly handsome

>>4714243
They're mad that she puts more effort on a collab with an outsider.
She literally puts no effort when collabing with her own genmates or senpais.
Why are you deadbraps like this?

>>4714337
They don't actually watch streams. Worthless fucking tourists.

>>4714284
Nah faggot, I think I'll stay a while longer

I can't believe this bastard ruined my entire hobby by making me spend two rather pleasant hours watching his collab.

>>4714411
I'm sure you will, parasite. It's in your bug like nature.

>>4712280
As much as I hate this guy for non vtuber reasons this, pretty alright collab just got caught in bad circumstances

>>4714452
Just remember anon, she doesn't know you exist. She doesn't love you either. The sooner you accept that into your heart, the less painful it will be. Your idolfag culture is dying, and there's nothing you can do about it. So seethe harder for me, because you're on the clock. KEK

>>4714337
It's embarrasing how awkward HoloEN collabs still are. Look at literally any other vtuber agency and you'll see they actually have chemistry

>>4712243
Posting shitty wojack or pepe memes should be a bannable offense.

>>4714069
On one hand from what I've gathered from this board Mori is a shit host and this e-boy probably had nothing to work with.

On the other hand if he wanted to show some professional self respect he could have just declined the colab given it seems like it was always going to suck. Looking at a broader view most people seem to hate him b/c vtubers collabing with regular streams is some race to the bottom shit that's leading to homoginzation/degradation of this little sub culture. IDK maybe this wouldn't been a bigger deal if people weren't so pissy about HoloEN and/or the two streamers were just, you know, better.

Regardless, 3 anons all responding "actually it's Mori's fault" without a hint of irony and committing blantent group think is pretty fucking funny.

>>4714337
if he's an outsider then its an important collab not a casual random collab that they are contractually obligated to do , forced by management, and its important that it goes smoothly so it reflects well on the company. Random collabs playing random shitty game arent important events, they are completely forgettable.
Especially awkward collabs with jp holos.

"no effort" is also not true, you faggot didnt see TTRPG ? Shut the fuck up.

>>4712891
>having an oshi whose relationship with (You) purely financially motivated and obiously fake

>>4712243
if consoooming is your hobby then find a new hobby

>>4713934
Idolfags are strawmen and if they become the focus of the argument then Calli will have a good excuse to play the victim instead of introspecting and improving.

>>4714533
I don't like, watch, or support ENwhores because of worthless faggots like you being a majority of the fanbase. Get real taste.

>*fucks you vtuber with my anglo-saxon cock*
What you gonna do about that, young man?

>>4714599
Over 6 months and they're still awkward as fuck. Fucking JP indies get over that by the 2nd or 3rd collab.

>>4714827
Remind you that no matter how much you ruin vtubers, you will always be a failed VA with only one voice.

>>4714827
>anglo-saxon cock
That tiny little thing couldn't even get an insect off.

>>4714685
>muh TTRPG
That's the only example you can give, deadbrap.
It's clear that she doesn't give two shits about her colleagues.

>>4714827
Connor got rejected by American women and immediately ran to Indonesian girls to rebuild his ego. Garnt is the fuckboy of TT.

>Normalfag tier anitubers are now becoming integrated into vtubing
We all knew this kind of shit was going to happen the moment english clout chasers hopped on the bandwagon.

>>4714818
I'm gonna say the line, are you ready? You will never be Japanese, and if your oshi ever met you, they'd be revolted. EN has already shown their dominance. Your fate is already sealed. Accept it or prepare to continue seething until there's nothing left for you.

>>4714502
Kind of agree. The Nyanners Kiara collab should've been first and softened the blow.

It's time for you guys to do your nihongo reps. If the EN sphere bothers you this much then it's time to GTFO

>>4714988
Nice buzzwords, tourist. You can go back now.

>>4715040
>Nyanners
>should've done [anything that isn't packing up her shit and going to another hobby for attention]
Nah man

>>4714988
Indeed. I'm so seething from an automated bot response from a tourist.

>>4715075
Now why would I do that? I dont get to shit on idolfags or /jp/ fags like this on reddit.

fartbeats literally imploding

>>4712243
I'm sick of this random literally who group of anituber fags injecting themselves into the vtuber scene with no resistance from anyone whatsoever. If one of them collabs with gura or something I'll swear off corporation tubers entirely and kneel to indies only. And only indies that don't suck up to vtweeters and all that gay shit

>>4715135
>I wasn't seething you t-tourist

>>4712243
>ruins my masturbation
no friend, I still fap and coom freely

>>4715182
you werent complaining when they were making rrat videos on vtubers you dont like so lap that shit up

>>4715079
I mean I want to see the yab machine their collab will be. Or they will want to play it safe and end up being so dull no one will want them to collab ever again. Either way, it's about clout and numbers for both of them.

>>4715146
>Worthless ENcuck is a boring faggot with zero personality
Color me shocked.

>>4712945
Quarter Monk

>>4715278
I don't know what the fuck they were making video on because these people are insignificant stink bug human-hybrid people.

>>4715320
Glad to see you've dropped the mask of caring about buzzwords. Seethe harder for me faggot, this shit gets me erect.

>>4712243
Nyanners has been ruining my hobbies since 2010, he's got nothing on her.

>>4715423
You're boring. I hate to think the shit you put your parents through on the regular.

>>4715514
Is this the best you've got? Weak shit. Send the next one in on your way out.

>>4712945
The nigga is full thai he's just born and raised in england

>>4715514
>Literally a basic twitter reply when assblasted
Go. fucking. back. I've seen this type of reply so many times. You fuckers are actually unthinking retards.

>>4712945
Gotta be more specific on the ethnic group anon.

>>4714827
I bet he can't wait for ID1 to get their 3D models.

>>4715590
The ethnic group that become trannies the most.

>>4714827
>Anglo-Saxon
Ain't he Welsh? I don't care about him but I do hate the English so I don't want people to conflate them.

>>4715415
If theyre insignificant then why are you complaining?

>>4715666
Who cares. Both English and Welsh are cucks.

>>4715703
BECAUSE THEY KEEP COLLABING WITH VTUBERS

>>4714685
>Especially awkward collabs
Why do you think they are awkward, Deadbrap?

>>4715590
who cares arr rook the same, all of them has the ugly seadog face

>>4715423
>when you realize this is the real and only reason these tourists are even following the vtuber scene in the first place and that they'll just move on and destroy another probably unrelated subculture when vtube is dead

>>4716037
The hatred you hold in your heart from them makes me think the Thai have some choice words to describe your countrymen, anon.

Calli is one of the only holos besides AZKi who actually treats her job like an idol, making connections with indie VSingers and having a large focus on music. I could see her working better in the same branch as AZKi and the upcoming VSingers.

>>4715929
language barrier.

>>4716157
Wrong thread, my b.

>>4712243
>raging idolfags ruin your hobby
Fixed

Us mecha fans could have told you this years ago when he shat out that 'the full of mecha anime' tripe that his brainless followers still regurgitate to this day. All anitubers deserve the rope.

>>4714873
It's amazing for someone that's basically a one trick pony with their voice, that they somehow are able to just get whatever roles.That something being good equipment and the asinine persistence to keep signing up for just random shit.

dudes out here defending some disgusting flip more than they defend their oshi

>>4714827
*ahem*
fuck vtubers

>>4712448
Shit

>>4712243
He should go back to living innawoods without internet, taking mealscraps from the locals like the dirt farming peasant boy he is.

>>4716522
based connorfag

>>4716269
>>4713507

soon

>>4716522
King

>>4712243
>Be Flip
>Hate gigguk because he's overrated
>/vt/ hates him because he's a flip

Okay you guys are retards
>>>/pol/

>>4716723
Kino

>>4716687
Didn't say they were mutually exclusive

>>4716751
Don't worry we don't just hate the Philippines, we hate the entire SEA region

>oshi collabs with male
"OMG my oshi is banging that male behind the scenes. now I can't fap to my virtual girlfriend who didn't even know if I exist or not"

>>4716784
Nobody hates the flips more than the flips.

>>4716784
If you hate SEAniggers hate them for being SEAniggers
If you hate Anitubers, hate them for being Anitubers
Don't conflate the two with either, hate Intelligently and properly; you cum ridden fags

>>4716877
Everyone's mad cause Calli's a lazy cunt, maybe read the thread retard

>>4716877
Not the issue cuckbeat

>>4712369
>ironic weeb
could you define what this is?

>>4716922
stfu right hand lover. did it hurt you?

>>4716952
It's a metal based weaboo

>>4716952

>>4716943
I ain't even a fan of holoEN. so shut your fucking mouth. fucking wizard

>i ain't purist
fuck you

>>4716751
I thought he is thailander or something

This guy has the critical thinking skills of a highschool student and his opinions are fucking retarded 9/10 times

>>4717012
>>4716978
>dont read the thread
>get called a dumb cunt
>throws a baby tantrum
Go back to wherever you came from you dumb cunt

>>4717019
They're all SEAniggers to me

>>4717038
>Go back to wherever you came from you dumb cunt
Will do. You always locked in to your fucking mother's basement because no one fucking acknowledge your existence.

>>4712243
if a random guy in youtube "ruins" your hobby then you didn't like your hobby to begin with you filthy faggot fake, go back being a dirty normie.

>>4716771
Understandable

>>4717011
>low-depth
>entry level
so basically just screeching from gatekeepers, got it

>>4717151
You're either a SEA ESL or 14 years old, either way go back to your facebook group

>>4717011
>vaporwave
>anime-derived
okay kys

>>4716751
I hate him because he is disingenuous.

>>4717151
>using shaming language
Kek. Women.

>>4716952
literally a poser

>>4717180
I live in Canada you cunt. people using "SEAnigger" is literally SEAcunt living in NA or Europe. you fucking cunt.

>>4717211
It's an older definition but you can pretty much factor FOTM cancer like Nagatoro into there as well

>>4716952
The people who post anime memes in twitter replies and repost other peoples fanart

Good thing I don't watch hololive

>>4717245
>Women
I see... Incel

>>4717258
mate i dont give a shit, you clearly need to lurk or leave because you sound like a dumb cunt throwing insults from 2014

>>4717322
>I don't give a shit
man stfu. no one fucking cares

>>4716522
basado

>>4714308
Imagine listening to Gigguk's opinion on anime dude's a fucking shill

>>4717359
pero en que?
basado en que?

>>4717352
>>4717258
>>4717151
>>4717012

so this is what reddit brings to the table, actual children throwing tantrums

>>4717395
ohhh an actual manchild living in his mom's basement and crying over virtual girlfriend. didn't even give oshi some superchat.

>>4717297
>NPC has limited lingo in her vocabulary
Ogey.

>>4715320
>Posting the most western JP Holo
Ah you were so close anon...

>>4717444
rrat.

>>4717441

>>4717441
>shaming language again
1. Jesus Christ woman. Calm your tits.
2. Unless she's sucking my dick, I ain't giving any woman my money

>>4712243
>calling watching streamers a hobby
you must be severely boring

>>4714827
>*fucks you vtuber with my anglo-saxon cock*
>What you gonna do about that, young man?
As long as it just Mori or ID I don't care,but if Anitubers touch the Trinity then I have a problem

>>4717492
oh shit. I'm atleast a legal tho, but not a wizard

>>4717494
You didn't even felt how your dick sucked. you fucking cunt.

this guy has to be some sort of fake frog, there's no way you claim to be a northerner and have this shit of a grasp of the english language unless you're a fake frog

>>4712836
Unironically calli and whoever decides to go on her same path are the only ones who will suffer. Normal/idolfags will just move on to something else but calli will be broken once she's forced back into irrelevancy and suddenly nobody cares about her anymore

>>4712891
She's been off-collabing with her brother ever since she was born.

at least they will never collab with JP cause every tranimetuber is a ironic weaboo EOP

>>4714827
bro, we know he's an actual dicklet just from that one time he put on a d. va bodysuit, absolutely embarrassing

Calli should've never been allowed to go on that podcast since this dirty flip's knights are here on this board

>>4717570
jokes on you when some people wanted to shortcut their stuff.

a lot of AmeriCunts didn't even know how to use "Their,They're and There" when writing.

so stfu ignorant cunt

>>4714685
>Calli is only capable of being a good genmate/collab partner when she's forced to put in effort on heavily managed streams
>This is somehow a defense of her as a hololive member

>>4717211
>there is significant no crossover between weeks and people into vaporwave

>>4712369
Well I guess we'll see how her next Hololive collab turns out, if she fucks up or seem bored people will be mad and not just here, Coco finally opened their eyes that the king ya boi is naked and they just can't unsee it now.

>>4712243
why does he sound like he does? his voice those annoying notes to me for some reason.

>>4719028
Have you heard his laugh? He sounds more like he's gasping for air than actually laughing.

>>4717441
Heh women.
>If you don't like it leave. You guys aren't my life.
>They leave
>wtf why isn't anyone donating? I'm not going to be able to pay my rent if you paypigs don't hurry up and make things how they were before
>normalfags get upset at being disrespected and leave
>woman is now irrelevant

>>4714827
>>4716522

>>4719193
What's the connection?
Kek.. Incel

>>4719675
Not really. I smash and pass. Chasing unicorns (tradcon virgin women who can cook and clean and takes care of kids) is a waste of time.

>>4719835
based

>>4712243
As expected of a SEAnigger.

>>4716877
Did everyone just forget that Gigguk is married?

>>4720378
He's married to a total slut.

>>4712243
Jokes on you, KFP posters already did that last year. There is no where to go now but up.

>>4719835
based

>>4712243
Who or what the fuck is this orangutan.

>>4720510
KFP derangement syndrome

>>4716142
t. potato nosed seadog

>>4716448
>'the full of mecha anime' tripe
quick rundown please

>>4712243
I don't really mind him collabing with Mori and nothing is ruined for me. He has unironic trash taste though, just saying.

>>4716952
Well if you ask me the real definition can be used to any niche or hobby out there, the ironic fan mayor trait is the insecurity and lack in confidence on how him and other people seems to enjoy things, pay attention on the "seems" part, the ironic fan in his insecurity it's totally bound by social perceptions, instead of liking things by the value that he gives to the object of his liking, it depends of how it's treated by the mainstream mayority, for example, He likes anime but he is afraid of he being identified as a weeb, and in the social standards, look down uppon, so what he does, it's taking a cynical approach, and joining the perspective of an outsider looking down on people that have the confidence to express how genuine is the interest and love for anime, this, lets them enjoy whatever interest they host at the moment without fearing being associated with the "real fans" but you can tell for how they act that they en y the passion that real fans exale, while at the same time constantly comply with any change or trend that may affect they interest on fear of being pushed out from their own groups of ironic and cynical peers.

>>4712243
You mean when he was a part of the wave of anitubers in the 2000s who got normies into anime and gave shit like Crunchyroll momentum?

He sure fucking did.

>>4713830
One of the EN2s is a Mexical girl who decapitates small vtubers live.

>>4726020
Youngfag thinking it was the fucking anitubers that got normies into anime....

>>4713507
Anon, deadbeats were criticizing her just for that.

>>4716448
>>4722502
I'd like a explanation as well. I don't follow anime community bullshit, much less youtube garbage

>>4712280
mori...

>>4716214
Oh yes, she can't understand Gura, Coco, Kiara

It's the others at fault

>>4715656
American zoomers?

>>4714827
who did he fuck

>>4726258
It certainly was a whole new wave of cancer.

>>4722502
>>4727381
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAsbyummVu4

>>4716889

>>4728054
To avoid hate against my oshi: Rushia at the time liked all the comments on her vods.

>>4727918
That means having to watch the video, anon.

you can't do shit about it what are you going to do? unsubscribe? Lol.

>>4727871
His VA career, mostly

>>4712448
half orc half goblin

>>4712448
Master race

>>4712448
randomize

Get destroyed, purityniggers

>>4712891
Your Oshi's roommate makes porn

>>4729073
Softcore with nary a single dick to be seen, yeah.

>>4729119
She gets men off. Thousands of men. Cope

>>4729073
>>4729119
Its gravure (everything she does is directly copied from gravure) not porn. Even 3D idols (even members of big groups like AKB-48) and j-pop stars do gravure.

>>4729156
Even 3D idols do gravure.

>>4727918
I asked for a quick rundow not a video Anon

I remember when people were joking about Mori collabing with ecelebs.
Are they still laughing?

>>4714738
I fucking fell for it again

>>4717260
how the fuck can someone not be FOTM if a season is 3 months?
t. /a/
and if you tell me
>it's about what you see on twitter/tumblr/youtube/r*ddit
then you have to go back.

>>4727381
Dude made a video talking about his opinion on why mecha is not popular anymore, people who disagree are mad at him, that is.

>>4712303
This. It's irritating to see retards here talk about a *hobby* when they only watch 5 girls and joined a few months ago

>>4729073
>>4729156
And?

geez newcucks learned how to post watamelons

>>4729156
Noel does that, yes, her newest outfit is pure sex

>>4713845
Did you mean her brother?

I don't really mind him. Maybe he's a clout chaser and leech but his interactions are ok.
The fact that he shouldn't collab with vtubers is more on principle, because if he's okay what's stopping Cr1tikal and Pokimane from appearing?

And people finally realized that Mori's autistic shit tier performances in collabs aren't something she "can't change", it's simply that she doesn't give a shit about hololive but when an asian manlet is there of course she's all over their dick.

>>4729982
the dumbass even picked nagatoro, which is an /a/ staple for a good decade.

>>4712891
>My cute oshi Noel is never doing any collabs with males
And yet, she takes her LARP wedding ring off every time she pleases males on cam as her roommate

>>4729156
she gets me off if you know what i mean

>>4730715
But I mean the jp girls collab with 3d people all the time, plus are you suggesting mori can’t collab with someone like Kevin penkin? Gigguk is friend with the guy and he can help mori get a collab with him.

>>4730956
Not him but I don't like that shit with the JP girls either. It breaks the immersion.

>>4731353
So you would be ok with them collabing with male as long as that person has a 2d avatar?

>>4727071
holy based

i honestly dont know why people hates this guy

>>4731475
Yes I am not a purityfag. In fact even someone who just doesn't show their face would be fine. I like pretending that they really are anime girls during streams. Real people ruin the immersion.

>>4712243
I'll admit that looks a lot like Marco Rubio but it's not actually him.

>>4731644
All three of them come across as posh trustfund kids who haven't worked a day in their lives.

>>4717011
>Kill la kill
>Entry-level
I know it is quite popular, but if that was everyone's first anime, a lot of people would be turned away.

>>4717245
Yes, I too think virgin shaming is highly problematic my fellow woke brutha

>>4712280
This, this cuban guy is cool.

>>4717818
>jokes on you when some people wanted to shortcut their stuff.
What is this even supposed to mean?

Also, didn’t—>don’t and sentences start with a capital letter.

>>4717011
glad naruto is not entry-level

>>4719193
Once you take your meds and go outside you’ll know this isn’t really a thing anon. Keep coping though you literal incel

>>4727071
Your own screenshot proves his point redditchama

>>4716723
But Forsen is Gura

>>4712243
I like him

>>4716952
Not Gigguk, actually connor is honestly the only one I would call an ironic weeb from his podcast

>>4729073
You act like this is bad, you faggot

>>4717011
there's not a single normie willing to play gbf for more than half the tutorial phase

>>4727071
Oh fuck. Damn! I really didn't pay attention to this shit, because I'm not a deadbeat and I care about Mori one way or another, but fuck me! And people call us incels or schizo's for being anti's over here for whores that we don't Iike, how's does it feel when you see your own fucking fans and normies with months long memberships calling you out!? Shit

>>4717178
You realize gatekeeping does not and has never meant "having standards and expectations for your hobbies", right?

>>4732255
It fucking should though. I don't understand. I don't go into chess and expect it to play like checkers because I want the fucking game to be like checkers.

>>4712448
>What race is this?
Have you literally never been to SEA? SEA is the Latin America of Asia.

>>4732009
What do you mean? There are long time members who call her out.

>>4730728
>tfw 2018 was 10 years ago

>>4731660
I mean in this collab, it is just a picture of the guy with his voice, I don’t think it is that bad that it would break your immersion. It does look a little weird when 2d clash with 3d though so you do have a point there.

>>4731740
So all I getting here is that you are hating them because they seem like rich kid, got it, so jealousy.

>>4712243
Shadowverse ruined itself, though.

>>4732942
I wish that wasn't true.