/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

spectrum 90 is 35p
spectrum 90 is peko schizo
https://wesave.chat/user/UCe-LFZ9BPi59ixU92OxNCJQ

>>47316081
/news/ anchor
Reply with a short description of the news and a link to the source!

News from the last thread:
>Upland (Owner of .LIVE) to join MBS Group
https://twitter.com/dotLIVEyoutuber/status/1646792197449351168
>Keala X LoL Wild Rift Ramandan collab
>>47253049
>HoloX Cafe menu and merch detail released
https://twitter.com/SP_collabo/status/1646710961783586816
>Hololive to participate in June's Tokyo Toy Show
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1646800459301044227

Old news:
>Figaro 3D debut & live 18th April, JST
https://twitter.com/Figaro_qpt/status/1645368615787728899
>Hololive Blue Journey revealed, concept music project with 23 HoloJP members, more to come July 2023.
https://twitter.com/BlueJourneyInfo/status/1646442015738171393
>Cover recruitment notice, looking for Trad. Chinese Localiser for Taiwan
https://hrmos.co/pages/cover-corp/jobs/0000206
>774 to debut 3 new members, 18th April for account creation & 22th April for first debut stream, JST
https://twitter.com/774inc_official/status/1645985611499847681
>(Relatively) New JP Vtuber group, 5 members, debut marathon has ended
https://twitter.com/HHH0414_info/status/1645366073649422336
>Otodama Tamako of Aoigiri HS indefinite suspension
https://twitter.com/AogiriHS/status/1646438073171935233

GRIM

>>47316022
You don't need to go to a recording studio in order to record music anon

BOTS

From last thread we learn that communists have 151IQ, no matter which ideology is Spectrum53piss, he will never have a girlfriend, epic seven is vg about numbers and Kronii, Oshi no Ko is singer pollute vtumors anime.

grimbots

>>47316204
Good bot.

>>47316118
Rent free lmao

>>47316181
For covers you don't, for originals you need to

>>47316204
>9k is impressive
Someone tell those fags that kronni is a low tier holo

>>47316239
nta but who said this

/#/ - Nonexistent Intelligence and Bots

>>47316283
But they love cuckoldry, kronii is perfect fit

I fucking told you, I fucking told you. Oshi no Ko was going to make this board unusable forever.

thread is so dead please shitpost

>>47316401
>Like 2 people talk about it.
It's so shallow and flashy that i don't see how people could take it that seriously.
Even /here/

>>47316401
This is so annoying. i can't believe this board is unusable now because of oshi no ko aaaaaa

>>47316401
Reminder that most mentions of that anime is off topic

>>47316352
NTA, but Suisei, I don't have a timestamp but it was shortly after Specter or the 2nd sololive. I think it's mostly a preference though.

You faggots keep saying that pagpag90 is the only schizo from that leeching whore's fanbase, but you don't seem to know about @Blannis_art.
Go check that tard out, you might start understanding a few things.

Oh hey, Chiku Taku hit 500k views
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYVweqOW31w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0usYxw3pko
Last week to watch the concert if you had Spawn tickets.

>>47316519

>>47316524
>Like 2 people talk about it.
1 of them is the dude making the original comment.
I still think it should be banned for off topic, but doubt the jannies are gonna bother.

>>47316598
Did this happen after or before Kson's rant?

>>47316401
some anon really want to be reincarnated as their oshi children

>>47316632
After

>CouncilRyS
>RyS

>>47316401
If anything it might save this board because maybe the jannies will be motivated enough to rangeban the usual spammers

>>47316401
oh no!! we are going to be invaded by sch- oh wait!

>>47316571
Who cares, she's just a detective. Only time travelling half millions are impressive.

>>47316352
Suisei said it i think a clip should be there if you search for it

>>47316632
after

>>47316688
I've got some news for you anon
She's not just a detective, she's a time traveller

Now that mori is hiatus, who is going to initiate homos collab?

>>47316669
Oh hi owlposter. Commit suicide. Sooner rather than later.

>>47316632
Literally a day after

>>47316669
i hate you so much. are you even an owlfag?

>>47316571
nice

>>47316733
>He doesn’t know

>>47316733
She isn't

>>47316733

Rey Mysterio status?

>>47316733
Mori cancelled her break actually.

>>47316401
Bruh the manga was out for years. Nothing changes.

There literally isn't even a point to the cripple tally anymore.

another banwave uh?

>>47316977
kek, what happened now?

>>47316967
nijiEN is a non-threat at this point.

>>47316401
>Oshi no Ko was going to make this board unusa-
IDOL MUSIC STOPS!

People are actually vibing with it haha

>>47316118
fuck off with your thread celebrities. they seek attention and you're giving them exactly that

>>47316967
NijiCN will make a huge comeback any day now with new wave and their livers will take podium all day every day.

Kronies...you sat there and took it

>>47316401
unlike the spergy retards itt normal people can distinguish what's real and fiction.

>>47317062
Kek is that from the epic seven general
How did the Kronies respond

>>47317062
?

>>47316118
>>47316204

>>47316567

>>47317087
>Normal people can distinguish what's real and fiction
DYRBI?

>>47316571
Isn't that pretty grim for her first original song?

>>47317062
Is she gonna give a hj to her discord mod?

How did Selen become the strongest NijiEN?

>>47317116
>>>/vg/425911538
>>>/vg/425913602
>>>/vg/425911752

>>47317145
gender is a social misconstruct!

Isn't 19k a little strong for Watame for a Friday night 25JST minecraft?

>>47316669
Why haven't you jumped off a bridge yet?

>>47317174
Vsai buffed + FPS tourists so a lot of people outside her core audience and NijiEN box checking her out.

>>47317174
by becoming Towa of HoloEN yes, i didn't stutter

>>47317174
no she don't? tempus + girls is a proven combination for big numbers while their individual numbers will keep tanking.

Reminder that vtubers are not mainstream or normalfag friendly until the afroamerican community starts watching them.
This is what happened to anime and capeshit movies.

>>47317174
>How did Selen become the strongest NijiEN?
She (mostly) sat out when chinks were running rampage in the fanbase and now she didn't feel the loss of them as much

>>47314607
>NOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T USE THAT VARIETY OF HEAVILY POST PROCESSED TRASH!!!11! YOU MUST USE THE POST PROCESSED TRASH THAT I DO LIKE!!!
Fucking retards are everywhere, I guess.

>>47316669
Kys, don't use my oshi for your garbage

>>47317263
but nigger nekkos already exists anon.

>>47317263
>afroamerican
You need to improve your bait, brazilian-kun.
>how did you know I'm braz-

>>47317174
Once VSaikyo is over, she's donezo outside of her tourney spam streams.

>>47317166
I mean, this is Ame we're talking about. People don't exactly watch her for her singing voice. Also it has only been out for 2 months.

>>47317205
>vermin shit

>>47317299
>>47317231
>>47316741
>>47316734

>>47317263
>who are deadbeats

>>47317226
She had more few days ago

stop shitposting with my cute college daughterwife, faggots

>>47317362
Asian women mostly

>>47317362
Not black for sure. Otherwise they wouldn't be listening to Mori.

Genuine question because I don't really watch the JPs much outside of listening to their covers; is there a reason why they refuse to use the FREE TRACKS given out and instead opt in for these shitty outsourced tracks instead? Everyone in Holo seems to do it and it's always a coinflip as to whether it's "ok" or not.

For example, Nene recently covered Tokyo Shandy Rendevous, right? The track is horrendous, but look at the original video [or just see pic related] and they literally give out the instrumentals FOR FREE. It's the same with Suise's Cinema which is also horrid. I just don't get it.

>>47317263
we need more black chuubas

>>47317174
Her numbers have worsened outside of the arc

dunno where to ask, but who's maimoto's mama/artist?

>>47316849
never underestimate the number or sheer retardation of secondary plebs

>>47317461
Why do you want to see bara porn

>>47317338
Noel's first original song had 500k in like 2 weeks. Pretty sure Fauna's had around that much as well.

>Use my teeth to scrape off and eat all the delectably delicious calluses from underneath Fauna's Feet. Slurp and lick on her juicy soft toes. Nibble, bite and chew on her nail polish covered toenails. And then I DEEPTHROAT her ENTIRE foot. Feet fetishist? Nah I'm a Feet Chad. No No No, a Feet GOD.

>>47317449
Just look at vtubervsirl

>>47317461
Could always just use Google.
https://virtualyoutuber.fandom.com/wiki/Maimoto_Keisuke

>>47317443
it's for non-commercial use only i guess?

>>47317449
Sanner...

>>47317263
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR7QtypTD6U

>>47317528
Jesus christ this can't be real

>>47317528
Why

>>47317528
KEK wtf

>>47317528
What the hell it's actually real.

>>47317087
That's a big fucking reach

>>47317528
Why does this look so shitposty

>>47317488
Fauna released her song before the general EN recline.

https://twitter.com/ConniehKida/status/1646516106243473409
https://twitter.com/bannedvtmemes/status/1646787980886183938
https://twitter.com/ConniehKida/status/1646903436838064128
In case you wanted to know who's behind all of the Oshi no Ko spam on the catalog

>>47317528
EN GOLD

>>47317521
holy shit bara is the most vile genre in hentai bar none for me. Truly disgusting.

>>47317645
>EN GOLD
>IRyS
No

>>47317461
don't lie anon you know exactly who it is you just want /#/ to have to see a bunch of gay porn

>>47317528
Modern Modern Warfare or older Modern Warfare?
I hope she plays the censored old MW2 campaign JP version for shits and giggles.

>Enter numberfag general thread
>See a Horny Feet greentext
>It's shit
It's all so tiring. Why can't you maggots be normal, for once in your goddamn lives.

>>47317616
Kronies are just a subset of deadbeats at this point.

>>47317645
>shitrys

>>47317699
>not a new IP
uhuh

>>47317613
Wasn't Fauna getting similar numbers then that Ame gets now? Maybe a bit more

>>47317174
Only female in the only English vsaikyo team

>>47317710
Yeah they consistently say the worst shit of any Hololive fanbase at this point. Why are they all trannies btw?

>>47316401
Only retards watch anime. I haven't watched an anime to completion in like 20 years. Not surprising that an anime would cause an influx of retards since anime is bottom of the barrel shit made for retards.

>>47317699
yeah just fap to yuko's feet instead https://twitter.com/YureiYuko/status/1646662776017010688

>>47317671
lol no wonder teammates are loyal af. Might be hollow in general scheme of things, but it's definitely what you want to regularly hear from your oshi
my condolences, chumbud

>>47317746
You tell me

>>47317725
I'm doing my reps, threadreading before joining in on the discussion.

>>47317732
No she was getting more even then. Not like ccv view reflect song views anyway since Sana's song has even more views than Fauna's.

>>47317671
Ame seems to want to stream anywhere except youtube

>>47317785
>shilling a Niji
Stop

>>47317785
ToT

>>47317812
Better than Fauna who doesn't communicate either

>>47317251
But I thought Towa was the Towa of HoloEN.

>>47317785
Is this GFE?

>>47317855
She was saying that one of the reasons she prefers to stream on Twitch is that she doesn't have to make a thumbnail for every stream.

>>47317881
try again at least 6 hours from now, anonchama

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>62,240: Hal (Neo-Porte)
>50,218: Umise Yotsuha (Nijisanji)
>35,487: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>33,709: Pekora (Hololive)
>32,340: Miko (Hololive)
>26,949: Toya (Nijisanji)
>25,624: Korone (Hololive)
>18,730: Watame (Hololive)
>17,373: Lamy (Hololive)
>16,431: Sora (Hololive)
>16,177: Salome (Nijisanji)
>13,867: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>13,381: Shion (Hololive)
>13,166: Koyori (Hololive)
>11,812: NeruMero (Indie)
>11,753: Kronii (Hololive)
>11,437: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>11,332: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>11,135: Ponpoko (Indie)
>10,422: Baelz (Hololive)

Hal gold in a prelude of the big finale for this year's tournament, outranking even a Ranunculus 3D debut.
Kuzuha managed to get a second non Z peak of 33,773 (https://vrabi.net/video/NwF8wYFaZCE)) to outrank Pekora by a whisker for the third place.

>>47317812
>literal random Gura mention
It's okay, bvtm tranny, I will pretend you were subtle.

>>47317899
just do the old shuba strat then of using your shocked face on top of the game's title for your thumbnails

>>47317855
she's VERY lazy about making thumbnails.

>>47317428
https://youtu.be/D-2nJBiHZ40?t=105

>>47317925
>Ranunculus
the fuck what kinda name is that

>>47316401
>Checks the catalogue
>It's filled with Oshi no ko "idol culture is bad" spam
aiEEEeeeeeee Idol bros Our mindshare is at an all time high because the Nijiniggers can't stop promoting the hololive brand with their faggotry. Whatever shall we do now!!!???

>>47318019
>Mori back when she genuinely grateful for being in hololive
take me back, anons

>>47317746
Kronii has always been the Twitter chuuba. That's her "charm". The super ironic yass queen slay girl for people who think that girls with a high pitched voice are cringe pedobait.
I mean even before the spergout /inf/ has always been the worst Holo split on this board.

>>47317613
En recline is her fault to be fair. It’s still her first original where’s the people that asked her to spam male collabs why aren’t they watching her music

>>47317841
regardless that Astrogirl got a buff from graduation, Chiku Taku & LMSH can't compare to it, unironically one of the best original song released by Hololive in 2022.

>>47317899
I haven't watched her since tempus, but her attitude to streaming has been more twitch-like for a long time it seems. Low energy, eating on stream, complaining about chat, etc.

>>47317765
Typical holobrony bandwagoner. No wonder you're hated across the site.

>>47318163
>En recline is her fault to be fair
Damn Ame caused the whole of EN to recline? She must be pretty powerful...

>>47317812
Loyal af but every recordable number she has dropped. Does loyal mean something different if you can shit on gura?

For those who missed earlier, here is an update on an interesting chart
>MEDIAN OF PEAKS AND TRUE AVERAGE, PER BRANCH

This time there are a couple of changes in relation to charts posted previously
>Nijisanji ID and KR got rolled in into Nijisanji
>All 774 branches got rolled into the main branch
Both changes are to reflect their current reality with regards to their branch division

Some comments
1) Hololive (the JP branch) continues flying high and their median breached the 12k line again, with their average getting very close by
2) Hololive EN still towers over the whole rest of the industry, but from a much more modest position
3) VSPO is the #3 by median, but trails Nijisanji Japanese branch in the average thanks to the later top heavy event heavy schedule carrying their average up
4) Holo ID comes as #4 in the median and #6 in the average, in a show of force powered by Kobo, Moona and Kaela
5) Neo-Porte, despite trailing even StarsEN in the median (thanks to some Stars-level underperformers including a full blown 2 is #5 in the average thanks to Hal outer space high peaks for his events
6) NijiEN both median and average dropped below 2k, a fraction of what they were pulling during their peaks.
7) StarsEN is quickly approaching (in the downward direction) a 1.5k median, having fallen below that mark in the average already.
8) Holostars (the japanese branch) likely boosted by good performances by their top streamers, outrank their peers in the average.
They are dead last in the median tho, thanks to the lack of strength of their regular performances
9) .LIVE, 774 Inc. and NoriPro continue existing. The first two, god knows for how long.

>>47318174
Yeah, that's why I'm saying that ccv views don't really reflect song views.

>>47318208
Stop projecting, nijibrony

presented without comment.

>>47318174
Except sung by one of the worst singer doesn’t really count.

>>47318302

>>47318174
Yeah Astrogirl is great. I know it will probably never happen but I wish CouncilRyS would release a cover for it since I think it works really great with multiple people.
Or at least sing it together at the EN concert

>>47318302
always EStards

>>47318302
lol

>>47318237
The decline started with tempus and Ame was at the center of the holopro unity campaign

Why are people pretending Asto Girl is actually a good song
I don't get it

>caring about the state of catalog
you catalog shitter should gtfo from here

>>47318302
based

>>47318390
It's a great song performed poorly.

>>47318256
>but every recordable number she has dropped
Not memberships, she's kept a very stable number of members it seems.

>>47317925
>APRIL 2023 GOLDS
1) Toya (Nijisanji) - 56,531 - Genderbent stream
2) Hal (Neo Porte) - 110,960 - VSaikyo 5 landmark lottery
3) Pekora (Hololive) - 95,630 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 w/Suisei
4) Chiroru (Indie) - 32,268 - Hanshin Tigers vs. Hiroshima watchalong
5) Miko (Hololive) - 62,251 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 totsu
6) Okayu (Hololive) - 70,189 - New outfit reveal
7) Ponto (Nijisanji) - 66,820 - 3D debut
8) Miko (Hololive) - 38,482 - Minecraft
9) Ryushen (Nijisanji) - 78,299 - Smash Bros. Tournament
10) Pekora (Hololive) - 97,308 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 tournament draw
11) Iroha (Hololive) - 37,543 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 w/Suisei
12) Salome (Nijisanji) - 39,193 - Uma Musume gacha
13) Korone (Hololive) - 111,617 - 4th anniversary 3D live
14) Hal (Neo Porte) - 62,240 - Apex VSaikyo 5 final scrims

>PER COMPANY
7x: Hololive
4x: Nijisanji
2x: Neo Porte
1x: Indie

>PER STREAMER
2x: Hal, Miko, Pekora
1x: Chiroru, Iroha, Korone, Okayu, Ponto, Ryushen, Salome, Toya

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
78x: Hololive
18x: Nijisanji
4x: Indie
3x: Neo Porte
1x: VSPO

>PER STREAMER
29x: Pekora
9x: Marine
6x: Miko
5x: Toya
4x: Subaru
3x: Hal, Hololive, Mio, Okayu, Suisei
2x: Chiroru, Koyori, Kuzuha, Lamy, Nerumero, Nijisanji, Towa
1x: Aqua, Ayame, Choco, Gaku, Gura, Himawari, Hinano, Ina, Iroha, Kiara, Korone, Mito, Mori, Nozomi, Polka, Ponto, Roco, Ryushen, Salome, Shion, Watame, Yashiro

>>47318183
I genuinely don't understand her appeal. I appreciate her creatividad shit but every time I open a solo stream she always sounds bitter and annoyed. And she always ends up blaming the game whenever something goes slightly wrong. Add to that the fact that she's completely dead during collabs and doesn't seem to go along with any other HoloEN member.
Do you have to be a turbo Gosling to like Ame?

>>47318237
Whole who said anything about whole. Gura and Fauna have yet to be affected. No one says jp is inclining and imply it’s every member

>>47318423
Not really, no.

>>47318271
Curious what the holoEN numbers would look like if you ignored Fauna's numbers

>>47318402
the catalog is this thread's child, surely you are white and will take responsibility for your children right anon?

>>47317690
with how stupid she is she is going to play the remake by mistake

For real 8 hours 15 minutes before the true announcement. No bullshit! Ignore my previous posts

>>47316401
/vt/ is fine. Ironically it's /a/ that's getting spammed with bait about the show

>>47318468
Would be the same, really

>>47318271
>HoloEN is still far and away the #2vtuber branch in the world
>but muh recline
Get fucked haters

>>47318302

>>47318479
>rrat orgy baby
straight into the orphanage

>>47318271
Similarly I wonder how would NijiJP fare if only the top 34 chuubas are included against HoloJP.

>>47318459
>Gura and Fauna have yet to be affected
Gura has reclined though?

>>47318510
HoloEN being the #2 in the world and them reclining can both happen simultaneously, retard

>>47318497
The announcement stream starts in 15 minutes, anon. Please look forward to it.

>>47318510
Don't take the seething 2views and smol corpofags headcanon too seriously.

>>47318459
Gura is JP and Fauna gets botted.

>>47318426
Members aren’t recordable or can you prove she has the same range today as she had last year on the.

>>47318468
>fauna
Not much would change, she isn't the Gura or Ina of Council.

>>47318386
That doesn't explain why other ENs who haven't been involved with Tempus at all have also reclined.

>>47318560
to my dick, yes.

>>47318586
the average number of likes/votes on her members posts has not shifted at all.

>>47318560
From last year? Not really
From 2021? Oh yeah

>>47317925
>62,240: Hal (Neo-Porte)
>50,218: Umise Yotsuha (Nijisanji)
Shibuya got Gold? Kuzuha remains a sad no gold bronze boi? AND no Niji gold today? Astonishingly Based As Fuck. ハルくんこれはベースードですよ~

>>47318462
There’s a karaoke by mumei or gura don’t remember which that had people change their opinions. Realistically it was more them than the song

>>47318402
The catalog also reflects the board's state and health somewhat not least because some people are dumb enough to parrot whatever they read there

>>47318297
Your whole fandom are trend hopping bronies. At least niji fans can say they're not just bandwagoning the most popular trend at the moment.

>>47317443
It's risk management permissions autism, anon. They get all their material sourced from a source with a legally binding contract. This prevents the owners from casually going back on their word and fucking you over with retroactive content strikes on YouTube copyright infringement lawsuits in court.

>>47318174
Astrogirl is a good song sung by a shitty singer.

>>47318679
>[headcanon]
Refer to this again, nijibrony >>47318297

>>47318644
It suits both of their voices really well. Their own original songs don't, so far. Gap.

>>47318500
What? Shounen and romcom can't push it back?

>>47318760
>Gura is a brony
>Fauna is a brony
>Vesper is a brony
>Magni is a brony
>your whole fandom is bronies
You don't wanna play this game trust me. You have much higher bronies per capita. Obviously NijiEN would have some bandwagoners too but not as much as Hololive.

>>47318510
EN is still in a slow downward trend. Yes it is no doubt the 2# in the entire industry globally but even if you exclude Mori and Kiara and with Gura & Ina in full power you can still see it trending down somewhat.
https://i.warosu.org/data/vt/img/0466/24/1680618810029927.png

>>47318271
Graduate nijisanji and below

So, thanks to the Streaming charts thingey, Michael Cat's recent fanbase civil war, and the general mindset of Hololive fans in Japan, I have come to the conclusion that most Hololive fans watch Hololive because they're entertaining first, and cute girls/GFE second.
> thanks Captain obvious
This might be obvious to thread regulars and /vyt/ oldfags, but it's still something that a large percentage of EOPs currently posting ITT do not understand the implications of. That being the following -
> "Unicorn" fans are not welcome, and in general, do not exist in the VTuber industry

Before you start seething, let me elaborate.
The current taboos among the Hololive fanbase (which can apply to any fanbase really) are -
> 1. Never lie to your fans.
> 2. Listen to your fans if they have genuine concerns and try to address them.
#1 was broken by Towa and Kronii, and their fanbases suffered accordingly. Towa took around a year+ to recover, Kronii's numbers are still fluctuating.
#2 was broken by Matsuri due to her Apex spam, alienating audiences that liked her more variety content such as Karaoke, Minecraft, Zatsudans etc.
She attempted a recovery arc starting in 2021 December and has found moderate success with it.
#2 was also partially broken by Michael Cat. When her non-unicorn fans found out that she was collabing with males - and the outcry that came from her unicorn fans (thanks to Rule #1, since Miguel herself set up the restriction) they thought that Unicorn fans were the reason she couldn't do such collabs and tried to get them kicked out.
They - of course - didn't take into account the fact that Miguel herself is a fucking menhera, and likes to "play" with her audience to get attention from things like this. Similar to how some irl women like it when their boyfriend gets jealous over them interacting with some other male, and try to frequently create such situations to get that feeling.

Segue into Rule #3, the supposed "don't have a boyfriend" rule...
But that's not actually a RULE though.
We have several Holos with confirmed SOs, and they've had no issues getting a fanbase. Some of them are even at the top of their respective branches in terms of viewership.
This "rule" seems to be lifted from the "idol" part (that a lot of holos frequently play around with) and amplified by shitposters, but there's a few differences in being a VTuber fan versus being an idol fan -

1. You cannot be an idol fan without spending money (concerts, meet and greets, merch etc. are almost never free), but you can do so as a VTuber fan.
2. If an idol gets a bf, that breaks Rule #1. "Idols" naturally are expected to not have boyfriends during their careers (or else why would anyone pay for their activities? They all just sing and dance, only top level idols do anything different or creative with their activities). VTubers do not have this restriction, since they are separated from the cultural restrictions of "idols", and hence being a "VTuber" does not automatically mean not having a boyfriend.
3. An after-effect of #2, idol fans have to deal with people online and offline calling them "cucks" if their oshi is revealed to have a boyfriend. VTuber fans can easily deflect this, since the roommate and the VTuber are two separate entities for them. Unless the chuuba themselves references a boyfriend ON STREAM, they are immune to this type of shitposting.

"Male Collabs" are not inherently entertaining, their entertainment values differ vastly depending on the people involved, their chemistry, and whether there's any gimmicks to their streams.
That's why you can often see a WIDE swathe of difference in viewership between such streams - Roberu + Mea, Roberu + Suisei, Roberu + Animare etc. get good numbers since Roberu bounces off of other people REALLY well. Same with the Vesper. Kronii, Magni, Mori group (do they have a name?), since they have good chemistry between each other leading to entertaining streams.
On the opposite end we have Aruran collabs, with Aki, Matsuri etc. getting low-ass numbers because Aruran himself has very little individual entertainment value and adds almost nothing to it when combined with the girls.

The "entertainment value" is what separates whether people watch these streams or not, never the "my oshi is collabing with a male" thing.
Examples from the opposite end of the spectrum : Bae and Kiara. Polar opposites in terms of male collabs and other unicorn "taboos", yet both runts. Because they either have inherent filters, or are not entertaining enough to keep a huge audience.

So, to reiterate -
> "Unicorn" fans are not welcome, and in general, do not exist in the VTuber industry

If you want to disprove this, give me a single fucking example of "male collabs/male interactions" significantly affecting a chuuba's numbers that was NOT them breaking Rule #1 or Rule #2 as well.

>>47318827
jfc IRyS please

Also why is she acting like a twitch thot than a vsinger?

>>47318271
>holo EN is bigger than nijiJP and NijiEN combined
Credit where credit's due. As a valiant and very prolific Last Samurai wanker. I Kneel to our resident ENchads for mogging, embarrassing and humiliating the competition. Get mogged ya vermins.

>>47318844
There was hope for myth numbers to recover with Mori fucking off, but nope

>>47318844
Your graph is out of date

>>47317040
>implying it's not the falseflagging nigger himself

>>47318600
It is possible that many left with half of holoen shilling the homos. They are part of a box and it definitely has gotten smaller so it affects everyone's solo streams. I personally have a problem enjoying big collabs anymore, because they usually contain members I hate

https://twitter.com/bannedvtmemes/status/1646882895913684992?s=20
That's what she said

>>47318916
retroactively meant for >>47318918

>>47318866

>>47318844
>>47318918
council so stable

>>47318866
There is a different issue as well that I'd like to bring up due to lack of space, that of the chuuba who gets one sided expectations from their fans (e.g. Axia).
This is a bit more of a complicated affair, as breaking such expectations falls under Rule #2, and disengaging such one-sided expectations is more difficult once they have been set in stone for a long time.
Fauna & Irys are good examples. Thanks to them not interacting much with Tempus during the initial drama arc, a part of their fanbase (usually /here/fags) have automatically assumed that they will NEVER collab with any males and strut around rubbing this supposed "achievement" into other fanbases' noses.

This will naturally become a problem for them later on e.g. if Fauna eventually manages to get a collab with her oshi NorthernLion, or if Irys wants to do song collabs or karaoke streams with male VSingers or an acoustic accompaniment similar to Azki.
Their situations are not as bad as Axia though, since the majority of their fans are regular folks who just like them for the entertainment value and not as a virtual gf.
They will still get shitposts against them (especially /here/, thanks to excessive shitposting from their retarded fanbases) if they break these expectations, but if they don't address the drama, it will die down eventually.

This is the reason ID3 outright stated that they would collab with any VTuber or Youtuber, male or female - to set those expectations from the start and never break Rule #1.
EN3 will likely follow this pattern.

>>47318866
>>47318987
what do you call this?

>>47318866
Fuck off doxxnigger

>>47318436
Actual competitive month, sure, it takes all other companies to match holo's current gold score, but if compare this to previous months its not bad at al.l

>>47318918
Is there a version of this graph with just holoen and tempus to have a clearer view of what happened without all the clutter?

>>47318987
>EN3 will likely follow this pattern.
Pretty sure a blanket statement of
>collabs? yeah, I want to callab with everyone! of course, they have to be good people

>>47319045
homobeggar cope

>>47318866
kys

>>47318271
Nijisisters...why are people still watching holo despite all our shitposting in /#/...

>>47319089
Yeah there probably is, you can ask the anon to post it or it'll be in the archive

>>47318441
If you want a serious answer: She has really great engagement/banter with chat, she's really funny and is the only Hololive member who makes me seriously laught out loud during her streams, despite her excuses for doing badly in a game she is really commited to completing/overcoming challanges no matter how hard they might first appear, her engagement during some streams can sometimes be dull but during other streams she can not only carry it but also bring out the best in the other members participating (take the Ministry Host Club and Ina April Fools streams as examples).

>>47319045
Base illness is homobegging and then there's the overdose on copium.

>>47318510
>>47318576
I can’t tell if you’re stupid or shitposting. I’ll believe you’re just stupid and give you some help. They have the second least streams among the top 10. Their average used to be 7-8k sometimes 9k now it’s 5-6k. I know you’re stupid but in math 7-9 is bigger than 5-6. If numbers go down it has declined (thread uses recline as a troll that stuck). Do you now understand why people say that.

>>47317355
Devilish.

>>47318959
you sounds like a loser anon

I don’t get why they keep saying Apex is dying and want to stop doing these tourneys when they get bigger numbers each time

>>47317528
Please not the woke garbage from the remakes.

>>47318600
what you thought that box fragmentation was a meme? At the same time 1/3 of the branch embarked in a campaign to replace their audience with twitter/reddit niggers while inviting the jackals to harrass the "incels" aka the girls core audiences,

>>47319243
How and what did they add?

IRyS...

>>47319205
You're here on /#/ with me buddy

>>47318986
IRySSoSexy

>>47319313
Bruh is she high

>>47319313

>>47319350
No, she's just dumb. That's big part of her appeal.

>>47319313
IRyS it just shows that you don't know anything about MW and should not bother with it in the first place.

Kakage very supportive of her new daughter

>>47318866
Having a bf doesn't fly in JP, whatever EN fans normalize and accept will never matter as long as JP is on top, kys cuck.

>>47318468
>Curious what the holoEN numbers would look like if you ignored Fauna's numbers
Median: 6020 / Average: 5222 / Num Streams: 62

>>47318556
>Similarly I wonder how would NijiJP fare if only the top 34 chuubas are included against HoloJP.
Median: 6337 / Average: 7105 / Num Streams: 285
They are barely competitive with HoloEN, let alone HoloJP with is almost doubling them

The 34 chosen channels (the ones with at least 15 streams in 2023, at least one stream in April and sorted by true average) were: Akina, Amamiya, Ange, Ars, Chaika, Chihiro, Debi, Elu, Furen, Fuwa, Gaku, Haru, Hayato, Hoshikawa, Ibrahim, Ishigami Nozomi, Kanae, Kou, Kuzuha, Lauren, Leos, Lize, Maimoto, Mito, Nui, Ratna, Rikiichi, Ryushen, Salome, Sasaki, Shiina, Toko, Toya, Yashiro

>>47319331
I guess so, but at least I can proudly say that I don't hate any Hololive members. It's just such a weird sentiment to hold.

>>47318893
I want her to be more of a whore. She is very sexy and would be good at it. Can you imagine that princess voice seducing you? Oh my god!

Oshi no ko banned on b2 for being too controversial. Hackasaka status?

>>47318866
>idol fans have to deal with people online and offline calling them "cucks" if their oshi is revealed to have a boyfriend. VTuber fans can easily deflect this, since the roommate and the VTuber are two separate entities for them. Unless the chuuba themselves references a boyfriend ON STREAM, they are immune to this type of shitposting
Let me guess, you are speaking from experience?

>>47319431
>Median: 6020 / Average: 5222 / Num Streams: 62
Thanks anon

Patiently waiting for the EN tally to be posted so that I can wank off to Fauna's painstakingly earned Bronze.

Akasaka Aka sisters, I will not watch your cuck anime. Stop spamming /vt/.
thanks.

>>47318630
Gura had 2.6k likes on her members stream and 6.6k likes on saying H. Within the same 2 weeks. If you choose members likes but ignore everything else that has more exact numbers go off.

>>47319452
Truely encompassing the hololive spirit

I guess I'll watch Kiara and see if its anything important

>>47316122
https://twitter.com/NeoPorte_info/status/1645081053118480385
https://twitter.com/NaYutalos/status/1645032755032645633

Nayuta from their gen 1 going on indefinite hiatus due to an injury

>>47319452
>
Only any derived content like MADs and presumably commentary videos about it would be banned.

>>47319431
>Ishigami Nozomi
She made it!

>>47319523
rip anon

>>47318843
>Another headcanon
>Another projection
No game's needed, you can always just refer to this, nijibrony >>47318297

>>47318843
i always felt that girls who are literally the target audience for mlp and in that age group probably don't deserve to be looked down on as bronies

>>47319151
>HoloEN's top 2 streamers stopped streaming consistently
>WOW DOOD, LOOK AT THAT DECLINE
Fucking retard.

>>47319131
For me the ameway stuff was usually more frustrating than fun after a while and when I still watched Ame, her jokes weren't usually that great she was just pretty cute and played fun games, but that wasn't enough to keep me watching after tempus

>>47319506
Thats why I obviously didn't include stream announcement likes retard-kun. The average number of likes an poll votes still hasn't changed.

>>47319431
Why is holo jp so abnormal? What do those women feed on to be such monsters?

>>47319523
Thank you for your service.

>>47319437
I don't really hate them as people I just hate what they want hololive to become and don't want to support any streams they host

>>47319577
Means pretty much everything banned because b2 is used for secondary fan creations.

Not giving the fag a (You) but I kinda agree.
Unicorns are a small minority and fans just care about the entertainment value. The thing is we've seen it with NijiEN how adding a permanent male cast into the mix will absolutely fucking ruin the chill vibe of an all female group.
On top of that western male Vtubers are pure fucking dogshit without a single exception. They always manage to be more scummy and menhera than actual fucking autistic womanlets.

>>47319392
Nah, those niggers just suck at naming shit.

>>47318866
>>47318987
Ok it is too long but I read them all. You just want to deny the existence of unicorn in vtuber industry when there is a huge shitstorm since Tempiss collab and miguel incident, which is similar to how troons denying their own gender.

Not to mention rm activities are important and they having bf or not actually affects their numbers. I will never watch 2 of the council whores by the way.
>1. You cannot be an idol fan without spending money (concerts, meet and greets, merch etc. are almost never free), but you can do so as a VTuber fan.
t. never browsed /jp/
>VTuber fans can easily deflect this, since the roommate and the VTuber are two separate entities for them
Only sapkeks and hookeks cope with this. There is one obvious example in EN that fuck her own numbers with her rm shits. Another example is Noel have an obvious but slight decline since the dildo.

Personally I am a unicorn but some male collabs are allowed, you just want the homo collabs to be allow which is impossible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vs5-er2srHQ
Kakage's creations are just pure sex.

>>47319726
No HoloEN members want Hololive to become anything different. Literally the only person I know who has expressed that sentiment is Ollie. Mayyyybe Kronii too if you really stretch her words.

>>47318827
>the "remastered" released before the non remastered
Gotta love video game titles.

>>47319814
R-ReineLui daugher?

>>47319306
Completely changed the plot to include female freedom fighters and muslim representation.

>>47319814
why kakage likes to draw birds?

>>47318629
Arguably not that much from 2021 considering her birthday live and actual 3D live is on the upper end of her vods while still growing. Her numbers are genuinely illogical her monhun rise stream also passed a million. Her only streams below 10k are ironically from 2021 unless you count the 6 minute broken sonic stream would still be 1 compared to 3. There has been no real recline for her

I'm starting to think I too will go watch Kiara. It's better than you retards once again engaging with homobeggars. Imagine that.

>>47319621
Ameway stuff can be great when she pulls it off. For example her going for ground pound last hits on bosses during Elden Ring really improved the experience and made her streams some of the best ER streams in HoloEN.

>>47319313
Get her to play CoD 4 instead. That's a kino campaign.

>>47319733
Still that doesn't mean it would be banned outright in the PRC. Since it should still be available to watch for its normal user base the discussion and fan works would probably just move to other platforms with a high overlap of B2 users like NGA maybe. Would take a hit to its overall popularity but there are other ways for it to reach an audience like group chats.

>>47319861
That's retarded

>>47319737
Nah I personally have different expectation for different vtuber. My expectation for holoEN is no male collabs. My expecatation for nijiEN is no expectation they are a fucking failure so yeah they can have male collabs all they want.

>>47319824
I believe that’s the remake not the rerelease.

>>47318987
>. if Fauna eventually manages to get a collab with her oshi NorthernLion
She literally does not want this and has expressively stated it. She has said she is a FAN, nothing more, she doesn't even want them to know she exists despite that clout chasing faggot clipper of his constantly bringing her up. He seems to have fucked off when his last collab begging went ignored

>>47319313
Vote cod 4 might be able to get her to mw2 no russian next

>>47319823
It's not hard to Image that Mori for example doesn't like the gap between hololive and homostars. Just look at her channels tab on youtube. Ame also deliberately included the homos in her collabs for a month just to tie them closer together. Kronii seems to only be interested in Vesper, but still hates idol culture

>>47320039
>despite that clout chasing faggot clipper of his constantly bringing her up
Wait, who?

>>47318866
>>47318987
You and your ilk are such a waste of oxygen

Apparently Kiara big announcement is her going back to japan in a month so get hype.

>>47319823
Lie Mori originally did no more though. En management or Ame certainly does. Kronii does. Bae had like a week of that before realizing that’s not what the girls normally do

>>47319452
How can an anime cause this much of a shitstorm lmao

why do tempiss keep using selen in their OP?
they collab often?

>>47320087
library of letourneau or whatever, He would constantly bring up NL related shit in SCs and she would humor him a bit but told the faggot she wasn't interested in collabs or to even be perceived by them. She then outright ignored his actual collab begging SC and he seems to have fucked off since.

>>47320144
Why doesn't she stay in Japan long term?

>>47320192
honorary holopro member

>>47320144
Can't wait for the announcement of her going to the grocery store.

>>47320216
cats

>>47319848
they even got IrohaLamy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZePcsGWPua8

>>47320192
she's the new intra-company bycycle now

>>47320085 (me)
There really isn't anything stopping holoen from becoming like holoid with the homos other than some members not going along with it

>>47320196
>he seems to have fucked off since.
As is he stopped mentioning NL? Or did he fuck off entirely?

>>47320216
visa and cats

>>47320183
Zhangs have cancelled and censored show broadcasts for less before, not big surprise there.

Kiara wants to reach 2 million subs

>>47320291
Fucked off entirely. At least he straight up stopped SC'ing her.

>>47320085
>It's not hard to Image that Mori for example doesn't like the gap between hololive and homostars
Mori, since the Tempus debut, has always had the position that "I will support them, but don't harass other people who don't want to engage them"
That is not any different to how many Hololive members have historically acted with Holostars.
>Ame also deliberately included the homos in her collabs for a month just to tie them closer
Ame has stated multiple times that she only included Tempus in her big collabs when she couldn't find enough HoloEN members to participate. They're essentially her backup. She has also never expressed any interest in "tying them closer together"

>>47320308
Are we gonna see her try to get into Eurovision again?

>>47320308
why?

>>47320196
The classic homobeggar strategy... Spam about homos and other males in chats and if Hologirls aknowledge that in ANY way, start spreading shit how they want to collab with males.

>>47320315
That's just weird as fuck, but i guess he might have been a NL fan first and foremost

>>47320196
>She then outright ignored his actual collab begging SC and he seems to have fucked off since.
This seems like a routine issue Fauna bumps into...

>>47320308
Getting 2 milion subs and playing nothing debuff indie games and JRPGs is mutually exclusive. The choice is yours, Kiara.

>>47319452
Makes sense. Zhang & friends are projecting themselves on the stabby stab idol schizo and they see the schizo as the true main character of Oshi no Ko. Nijisanji Zhang sisters are the exact same breed of delusional. They are dox hungry and are the exact same vermin that can't separate fiction from reality. Hex hayfag literally has fans that cut their our wrists as an offering to their beloved bargain bin Vox clone. What!? Oshi no Ko will ruin hololive's image? KEK. The monkey's paw will strike again if you continue treading this very dangerous path nijisisters. You have been cautioned. You have been warned. Now continue your foolish tirade of promoting hololive by comparing it to the best anime airing this season.

>>47320396
It's whatever, he's someone else's problem now.

Kiara yab

>>47320352
>Ame has stated multiple times that she only included Tempus in her big collabs when she couldn't find enough HoloEN members to participate
Anon come on now, surely you realized this is just an excuse. She also tried to weasel her way with the blue fag too on her karaoke, citing the completely bullshit excuse of "He's the first one who showed up on my youtube search!" when anyone could easily debunk it.

>>47320183
Well the anime has a girl get pregnant at 16 and be killed by a fan that was egged on by her not under 18 baby daddy. It also wants you to feel bad her even though it’s literally all her fault. Did I mention it attacks all businesses in the entmt industry including anime/manga. So people equate this to Idol Vtubers namely corpo ones.

Despite this it’s actually enjoyable

>>47320352
>Ame has stated multiple times that she only included Tempus in her big collabs when she couldn't find enough HoloEN members to participate
The catch-22 that resulted from this was pretty funny.

>>47318918
I personally love that both myth and luxiem became shitters

Kiara yab. She came out of the closet. She's a chicken, not a phoenix.

>>47320308
Is there a chuuba who doesn't? Some contrarian?

The fact that that faggot mentioned Axia in his tldr post means that he have no idea what is happening in the true vtubers circles and is just getting his news from # and catalog. Vtubers go deeper than holo and niji both in Japan and kaigais. There are different types of vtubers and different expectations from the fans.

What Miguel did was within the expectation of her fans.
There are other corpo which has less strict rules for their talents compared to holo/niji and the expectation from their fans is different.
The expectation from vsingers corpo/indie is different.

There is certainly an expectation for no male* collabs among hololive fans as you can see here and 5ch, so you are lying to yourself if you think there is no unicorns among the fans.

>>47320554
Ame

>>47320585
There are also different type of idolfans. 2D idolfans are usually a lot more lenient than the 3D variants.

>>47320513
I'm sorry I take people at their word instead of coming up with schizo narratives about their "real intentions" like you do anon. Clearly you have the superior reasoning here.

>>47320539
Myth became Kiara & Mori , which I suppose amounts to the same thing.

>>47320585
>Vtubers go deeper than holo
They certainly don't go higher.

>>47320633
Ame wants 2m for a new 3D model, fucking threw away 1m for that dumb paladins voice pack

>>47320468
Not really. She just need to get viral with an MV like Marine.

>>47320308
Literally just play Minecraft during JP hours. It's that easy, chicken, just do it.

>>47320272
So there is something stopping it. Besides id doesn’t do big collabs with stars often. That was the main complaint in the span of 6 weeks there were more homocollabs than the entire summer including may. They kept saying avoid if you didn’t like it and you couldn’t without unsubscribing which i did

>>47320696

>>47320654
>I'm sorry I take people at their word
You have to be 18+ to post here

>>47320585
Still I doubt the impact of those "unicorns" leaving is that significant if there's no drama related to those 3 categories of "promises" involved.

>>47320352
Mori also said she would let the tempiss homos build their own audience before collabing, but mysteriously popular demand stopped that plan.
Do you really buy that excuse by Ame? She just had to play astroneer, worms, gartic phone and couldn't find other girls to join? Perhaps sending invites to the homos stopped members like Gura or Irys from joining.

>>47320654
To be fair, Fauna has stated she doesn't say no to collabs (it's how she got roped into apex) but somehow she wasn't there for the worms collab...?

>>47319390
How the hell did her sister end up a doctor? Did her parents just ignore her? Wonder if the doctor sis seethes that her stupid little sister probably makes more money than her?

>>47320646
Nah it depends, sometimes 2D idolfans are strict too. The only m*le that I would let my Smart Falcon get near to is Toreina (me).

>>47320773
Could be any number of reason why Fauna couldn't make it to the worms collab.

Oof wtf is this. Thought Nene was reading scs for a moment but it turns out she only peaked 6k. Is the tetris tourney going to flop?

>>47320870
That's only a Nene thing

>>47320746
You joke but the possibility is not 0.

>>47320755
Gura doesn't do big collabs anymore anon, this is well known.

Why do homobeggars come up with these insane narratives about imaginary guns and unicorns and how there are so many rules but more exceptions and this and that. In what circles is that normal behaviour?

>>47320654
Anonchama schizo narratives are something that just come out of thin air.
Ame bulshitting were not.
>Kiara openly said she's interested but only if it's all girls, Fauna will never turn down big collabs.
>Any kids with phone could easily debunk her.

>>47318866
>>47319737
>>47319767
Hololive just has way too many that are big on CGDCT. If I can eat oranges and someone puts an apple on the table I'm just going to ignore it. People that don't send a clear meesage from the start are just causing problems for themselves when their content takes another direction.
In the end even most unicorns aren't going to give a shit about Holos showing up on a TV show with a male host or something stupid like Korone singing with Isao Taira. Just choose and keep your direction and understand what sort of content your fanbase is there for.

>>47319426
Like I said, some JP holos are literally married and still have a fanbase. It's never been a problem for even the JP VTuber audience.
I know I'm replying to a shitposter, but the point has to be made.

>>47320917
>Gura doesn't do streams anymore anon, this is well known.

>>47320930
They have nothing better to do because da bois are too boring to watch even for them kek

>>47320696
She already has two decently big MVs the past half year and it barely affected her sub growth. Are you suggesting she go vsinger mode and just do more kslop music with dance videos?

Tempus lives rent free in this thread head. Anons might as well get used to them because there going to right aside holoen in the long haul. I won't be surprise if we get Tempus 3 and EN3 during the same week so that the gens can be closer together.

>>47320870
Lui is even worst. But this is like any skilled based game, you only get views if your good.

Kiara is currently reading AI generated bot responses to the questions
Announcement will be a neuro collab

>>47320857
>Could be any number of reason why Fauna couldn't make it to the worms collab.
Don't try to backtract now anon, you already said this >>47320654

>>47319453
Not an idolfag, so no.
There was a time when my oshi got a ton of cuck shitposts thanks to some JP streamer though, but they never really had much impact.

>>47320902
It ended AZKI's golden run too

>>47321037
Just ignore the homobeggar

>>47321004
bad bot

>>47320870
Nene has been camping the early slot, and her audience has probably adjusted their viewing habits around it. That, and skill-based game, solo = oof.

>>47320308
She'll have to pick better games and hope for luck with the Shorts meta.

>>47321018
Announcing colab would be retared

>>47321037
Do you have any reading comprehension anon? I'm not trying to say anything about Fauna's intentions.

>>47320870
far out of her timeslot
internet is dying so she has to use a png
its close to 3am in japan
and while she did improve quite a bit she is still far from good at the game

>>47320308
If she really wants 2m, she should take advantage of her timeslot to host tourist-heavy JP/ID/EN events in the late-morning/early-afternoon weekend slot (12pm est +/- 2 hours) that nobody in EN really uses.

>>47320870
this is not her time slot, guerilla stream, and she's actually just doing normal training stream so only the most hardcore fans tuned in.

>Girlstalk with Neuro is real
Can't wait for the sapling cope

>>47319767
> You just want to deny the existence of unicorn in vtuber industry when there is a huge shitstorm since Tempiss collab and miguel incident
I put these under a separate issue for a reason anon.
> Never lie to your fans
Is the rule that these broke.
There's a reason that Kronii fans got a lot more shit going their way while Teamates were relatively unaffected. Only one of them directly lied to their fans.
And I addressed Miguel's incident as well, she has the setup of her "audience being her boyfriend" and has promised multiple times that she would not collab with males. It falls under the "never lie to your fans" rule.
She just likes breaking that rule occasionally and seeing her fans get jealous over her.

>>47320352
That was a lie because the same week Fauna said if she gets an invite she’ll join game doesn’t matter and Kiara said I wanted to join maybe next time. She somehow sent an invite that missed fauna and Kiara but had no issues reaching them lies. Mori originally was trying to bring outsiders into hololive. She tried to add irys to a terraria collab with IM on a joint server. TT. She’s different now because of all the times she’s been shit on. Besides she asked kronii to join dbd so it’s not the same she’s trying to invite them. It could also have been Bae or vesper but the homos couldn’t ask at the time. The other girls still got harassed enough that they had to make statements where’s the support when they made those statements.

>>47321051
>homo enabler
>a literal cuck
surprised_pikachu_face.jpg

>>47321204
i-it's a turtle, it doesn't count

>>47320941
>Kiara openly said she's interested but only if it's all girls
She said she's interested in ANOTHER ONE if its all girls. Ame has said that Kiara turned her down for the first one.

>>47319767
>>47321220
> I will never watch 2 of the council whores by the way.
nevermind, I guess I replied to another shitposter.

>>47321155
But i thought you only take people at their word, anon? Fauna's word is that she will accept any collab, so what with the schizo narrative about her?

>>47321279
Oh really? Then why hasn't Fauna been in literally every open invite collab in HoloEN ever?

>>47321106
I'm inclined to agree. Also if you're a second-choice for people it gets ugly when you move into a more contested slot and double with a game like this.

>>47321004
>faggots brought but blatant falsehood to "support the cause"
>faggot was bashed with posts
>"oh look tempus lives rent free"
Neck yourself.

>>47321325
But she has

>>47320585
>as you can see here and 5ch
So, you agree that most "unicorns" are in fact trolls and falseflaggers?

>>47320442
They all get it. Gura ignores everything that she doesn’t want to talk about. Kiara gets it less now that she’s team homo. Mumei and Ina don’t get it anymore I think but their past speaks for itself.

>>47321325
There could be any reason. but I'm not the one who take anyone's word at face value.
So what with the schizo narrative about her, anon?

>>47320308
Good luck, chicken whore.

MORTIS

>>47321406
>Kiara gets it less now that she’s team homo.
You are really hellbent on this angle it seems like

>>47321415
You're right, there could be any reason, that's exactly what I'm saying.

>>47320848
>Wonder if the doctor sis seethes that her stupid little sister probably makes more money than her?
I'm pretty sure she's glad her little sister has the ability to be a contributing member to the honor of her family lineage by being actually useful in some way, cause the alternative is for her to be a literal hikki-NEET failcel of a woman and that is big SHAMEFURDISPRAY in Japanese culture even for women.

I still dont understand why Hololive created a whole new Youtube channel for Blue Journey, if its just an Album
Also, why is Matsuri not in that project, she is literally the best emo/sad/ballad singer??

>>47321464
yeah but her words at face value is that she will accept any collab invitation.
Why are you creating a schizo narrative about her turning down the worms collab, then?

>>47321325
>? Then why hasn't Fauna been in literally every open invite collab in HoloEN ever?
She's been in like 90% of them though. Even Guerilla ones like the fucking fortnite with Mumei/Gura

Sociopaths are known for being too impulsive to lie.
Psycopaths are known liars.
Ame is a sociopath.
Fauna is a psychopath.
Fauna lied.

>>47321220
> Never lie to your fans is the rule that these broke
Funny that all of these cases are about m*le collabs but you chose to handwave it. Neck yourself homobeggar.

>>47321406
>Kiara gets it less now that she’s team homo
It doesn't matter how much you (singular) repeat this, it's not going to become true.
Hate her for low numbers if you wish but don't make shit up.

>>47321325
Because sometimes other people want to be in them. Fauna will do it if they need her but they don't always necessarily need her. Also she might be busy or whatever.

>>47321257
That’s the point we’re arguing Ame originally said it was a regular female collab but no one responded to her so she invited them. Flies in the face of fauna and kiara on separate timezones both saying they’d be interested if asked so not possible at least one of them couldn’t have responded. If Ame changed her words later it just means she lied twice now

>>47321406
>Kiara gets it less now that she’s team homo

Cheap Fauna bait hours.

>>47320039
Understandable. My point still stands though.
Thanks to her reaction to the Tempus drama, a part of her fanbase (mostly from /here/) have foisted the expectation that she will never collab with males upon her, which she has never explicitly acknowledged on stream - .
It's a recipe for future fan disappointment as well as an issue for Fauna to deal with if she ever wants to do male collabs for whatever reason at some point in the future.
> but she doesn't WANT to do male collabs
Then things are fine staying this way, although imho it would be a lot better if she was explicit about it so that people would not push for the OPPOSITE side of the expectation - i.e. homobegging on her chat.

In any case, I understand why she's letting things stay the way they are, since addressing the issue one way or another is a recipe for alienating at least some parts of her fanbase.
It's just that, ignoring the issue won't really make it go away. And if she has to confront it at some point in the future, the impact will be far worse once the expectations have been built up for that long.

A-chan buff running out?

>>47321406
>Kiara gets it less now that she’s team homo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHU-2FMpIlU

>>47321538
Because I also like to invoke a little something called "charity" and don't take statements like that to mean "I will be in every collab".

>>47321325
Name the open invite holoen collabs that didn’t fall on Tuesday, her break or her cats death. Prove that Fauna is the liar not Ame

>>47320107
> putting the entire argument into the "muh homobeggar" box
> no rebuttal
so are you, shitposter-kun

>>47321727
You are so fucking transparent

Should they make a Gura-bot and just have it stream in Gura's place? How many chumbuds would be able to tell the difference?

Kiara is doing a news stream?