/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>47475477
You know what they say
The bigger they are, the harder they fall.
I liked Hololive when it was a small niche, but EN and Coco ruined everything.

>>47475477
Pekora>Hololive.

>>47475716
yeah, EN are the ones that turned it into a soulless brand-focused experience.

>>47475477
We'll seee how big they are once HoloEarth is released

>>47475797
>HoloEarth
>released

>>47475868
yes in 2024

>>47475716
EN should be axed.

>>47475773
I miss the old times.... Fuck extreme success and fuck earning too much money.

>>47475868
it's coming soon. just think of the money yagoo will make from the microtransactions

oshinoko will destroy hololive.
nijisanji will take the throne.

>>47476316
they sell IAP for a 3D game that looks like one of those steam shovelwares what the fuck
wish they just cut the game portion completely and focus on the concert part

>>47476316
God fucking damn it

>>47475477
It's one gacha game away from capitalizing on its popularity

>>47475716
>The bigger they are, the harder they fall.
I'd have agreed with you in 2020, not since 2021. Coco left the company in disgrace after being humiliated by management, and the fanbase pretended to not notice. As long as there isn't a huge drama like a talent being raped by management (Mel's case wasn't rape and it's not well known among casuals), there is no reason for Hololive to fail even if some talents leave

>>47475477
Hololive first needs to be bigger than Nijisanji before being compared to other things.

>>47475477
mid

>>47477200
>Humiliated by management
Do you see the shit she is pulling right now? I would agree management didn't do her justice but it wasn't something unfixable i think they would have returned to normal if given enough time but seeing her shinanigans right now it's preety clear she isn't made for corpo vtubing.

>>47477200
Coco wanted to bring down the walls of Hololive and ruin it for everyone so it's a good thing she was fired.

>>47480416
>>47480631
Whether you like Kson's content is irrelevant to my point: a talent can leave Hololive in bad circumstances and the fanbase will pretend nothing is wrong. We had a termination case with Rushia and almost no Hololive fan sides with her today

>>47480631
Actually Coco just wanted to make jokes on a morning news show

>>47481065
becaus literally everything that happened to Rushia was entirely her fault. absolutely everything could have been avoided if she wasnt stupid and crazy. she terminated herself

>>47481203
No, plenty of Holo JPs talked about how Coco was always on the edge of the protective walls of Hololive and howshe was ambitious but yabe.
The JP girls just want to be cute and stream for their fans, not turn into whatever the fuck Kson is doing now.

>>47481065
You realize bringing up Rushia does you no favors right?, maybe at the beginning things were cloudy to some extent but after all this time it's blatantly obvious how menhera she is, hell, her very own worst enemy is herself.

>>47475477
Pretty big in Japan but barely noticeable on global scale, streamers in general are fucking irrelevant thanks to Twitch

>>47481438
>>47481826
Rushia has indeed proven to be a huge menhera with time but even right after her termination, people were already majorly siding with Cover over her

>>47477200
>Mel's case wasn't rape
What the hell? What case?

>>47482155
mainly because other Holomen were completely ok and unfazed with her termination. some didnt even pretend to be sad

>>47477748
open wide Nijinigger, Hololive mos watched Vtuber company and whit 107 less members

>>47482155
Well we had Mafumafu and Rushia two very similar situations One listened to there Manager one did something stupid. Those separate from Rushia could literally see that covers plan of do nothing would have worked because it worked for mafumafu. You can see even now it would have worked because some of them followed her next life.

>>47481065
>Whether you like Kson's content is irrelevant to my point: a talent can leave Hololive in bad circumstances and the fanbase will pretend nothing is wrong.
Because Coco herself pretended nothing was wrong.

>>47482253
A manager almost took advantage of her

>>47482155
The person she leaked to even made a video about them having correspondence. There's no arguing that she broke NDA. Are we just going to memory hole Cover's initial handling of the Mafumafu incident?

>>47482253
A manager stalked her

>>47481486
they just do their job, acting their character on stream every 3 days.
They simply have no ambition for anything else.

>>47475477
They are still tiny.
Pottential to get massive if they open HoloES and collab with ES streamers who are far more mainstream than the EN streaming scene
picrel is a ES streaming event

>>47482955
Ambition to be a whorish fleshtuber?

>>47483369
>most of the seats are empty
kwab

>>47481065
I am just saying that the cover management might not have been completely at fault given how stupid that women is acting, the only thing i really disliked about the situation was the en side completely shutting her off that was shitty the reason they did it was preety obvious but it was still a bad thing to do

>>47482684
She didn't though. She said on stream management was limiting her projects and her ability to collab with other Hololive members

>>47483442
Is that all you can think of?
your mind is as tiny as your oshi's mind.

>>47482955
>Ambishion
Ambishion for what all of holo jp is doing better then kekson right now

>>47484290
What the fuck else has kson gone on to do but what the other anon suggested?

>>47484285
Yeah and she was also getting bot spammed at the time, and any member who even talked about her on there stream were getting spammed and many of them didn't doubt down on mentioning coco even if they were at the risk of getting hate (fubuki, suisei, aqua, whole gen 4 etc)

>>47484431
to stream every day what is the minimum

>>47484285
The public perception was that she quit over the harassment, though. If she (even vaguely) shat on Cover around her graduation stream that had 500k people watching Hololive would have taken a lot of damage.

>>47482253
Manager took advantage of his access with her to try and schmooze. When it failed spectacularly he became a schizo anti stalker and eventually accidently identified himself. Mel reported it and Cover fired him immediately but he continued to stalk her and Cover shrugged its shoulders 'hey we did our due diligence, now that he is outside the company he is YOUR problem'. Eventually Mel went on hiatus, lawyered up and made it Cover's problem once again to resolve and got the schizo faggot to leave her alone finally.

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>>47484479
And said bot spam was part of Cover's responsibility for their retarded handling of the situation. Saying they supported the One China policy in the Chinese statement but not in the EN and JP versions, and giving in the antis by suspending Coco and Haachama in the first place just made them feel more powerful. Leaving Coco on her own to deal with the bot spam is the same as telling her to graduate, to tell nothing about them modding chink spammers

>>47484801
it's good to know you're not going to breed

>>47475477
>On the great scheme of things how big is Hololive?
You know what they say

>>47485186
It's good to know you will never be loved

>>47475477
>Bigger than
Nijisanji
>Smaller than
Yo mama

>>47476614
Is HoloEart the right kind of gacha for them?

>>47487354
>the incel reflecting
ogey

>>47483447
Anon picked a bad pic , the event had 92.552 people

>>47475773

They're a Japanese company who has pushed into the public stock market and list their goals as expanding profits by merch / events instead of quality stream content. That wasn't because of English fans, it's almost exclusively a Japanese idol focus desire.

How big is Hololive? Well they're literally the biggest Vtubing company, period. Niji is almost 10M behind them and all the rest are 1/10th as big or lower. So they ARE essentially, 50% of the industry.

Now how big is Vtubing as a whole? Debatable, but I'd still say it's extremely niche. That said, Pekora was the most watched female streamer for Q1 and roughly half of the top 10 most watched female streamers were all Cover talent, so I'd say it's growing in popularity. If I had to compare it to something, I'd say it's maybe as popular as a stream platform original series that's relatively middle of the pack in terms of viewers / fans.

>>47494457
>Pekora was the most watched female streamer for Q1 and roughly half of the top 10 most watched female streamers were all Cover talent, so I'd say it's growing in popularity.
Other way around, the ES streamer that got second place is inclining and will definitely dethroning pekora next year. Amouranth didn't stream this year else she would have beaten pekora as well.

Hololive desperately need a video game, movie, or a TV show out