/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Oh boy can't wait for another thread with 100 posts consisting of Holofags calling any actual explanation a cope

>>4763813
Kuzuha cornering the markets of thirsty fujos and 12 year olds that love apex.

>>4763813
Good for Niji. I'm not too into it, but my oshi works there so I support them over everything else.

Nijisanji used to have 90% of the market share. Now they have 45%.

The problem is that this ratio will likely hold indefinitely due to saturation and Hololive won the west and Nijisanji won China by default even though Aqua is still more popular than all of NijiCN combined there.

>>4763813
What is more popular than Hololive in Japan? Are they? I've never heard of them.

>>4764765
Do your reps newfag.

>>4763813
it called holocope
make more niji-anti threads and maybe holo will become popular in japan too if you keep repeating it, holobronies

>>4763853
seethe you self-conscious bitch.

>>4764066
Zhang here,truth is, Nijisanji never actually wining China I'm afraid.
They suffers the same problem as they do in the west : EOP/COP don't care about actual Japanese content but much anime girl stuff.
And with the GFW blocking normie visiting youtube it might be even worse.
Unless majority of the audience can understand decent Japanese Nijisanji can never truly win the market outside Japan compare to agency such like hololive.
Why? dafaq you think who watches much anime girl streaming doing cute things without knowing decent Japanese? 99% male weebs.
And by default a more diverse company with male chuuba and general entertainment content failed against male fan service.
Easy as that.

>>4765356
god I wish that was me

>>4765396
go back to your chinksite, chang

>>4764066
>Nijisanji used to have 90% of the market share. Now they have 45%.
These are some random percentages you got there, anon.

>>4765466
born in kung pao land is not my fault and I fucking hate chinksite cause they are load with holofags too.

>>4765586
just kys then

You guys baiting again? numbers don't lie

>>4765649
>gook
lol, are you spic monkey?

>>4765649
HoloKR when? I need a real idol male

>>4765396
Well, hololive was winning China quite hard until the incident. Nijisanji needs to lean in there to make up the difference but it seems like Nijisanji don't have vtubers like onyon to match up.

>>4765641
lol NO
cry out loud nigger

>>4764975
Dude, I've been on this board since the beginning and was on /hlg/ over in /jp/ since around Miko's return concert last year. I've never heard of this Nijisanji thing. Are they another vtuber group? Is it a clip channel? A band?

>>4765649
>south korea
Read the OP again.

>>4765828
>>4765828
Why do chinks love onyon so much

>>4766087
silly anime girl that plays games, was in some chink gacha, and interacted with her china fans to a larger extent.

>>4765828
>>4766087
as a chink i've never heard of onyon, who the fuck is that?

>>4766087
holy newfag, lurk 5,000 years. even fucking redditors know the answer to this question.

>>4766299
You must be kidding

>>4765844
Embarrassing.

>>4768621
no shit i legit don't know who that is
care to give a link?

>>4768900
Hololive's Minato Aqua

>>4769561
oh the fucking League fag princess
uhh nah

>>4769618
She played league?

>>4769674
She do, shit lot of league back in the days and was gonna attend as guest for that league championship thing. S10 or something during the incident. And she got pulled at the last second. The league/aqua fag went bat shit insane and all the chink vtuber forum is in chaos cause of those cunt.

>>4765396
What's your opinion on Coco Chinaman?

tiananmen square

>>4765356
HOT

>>4763853
Gotta love that Nijisanji has fallen so far behind that gormless contrarians are already swarming to it. Here's a quick tip, anyone who uses "holofag" or "globalfag" or "holobrony" are themselves, holofags, globalfags and holobronies

>>4769883
I'm curious, arent you afraid that your social credit would be impacted for using VPN or coming to 4chan like this?

>>4765844
nice bait

>>4770123
such thing does not really exist at least does not work the way westerner thinks. Those are more like some corporate loan bullshit and as long as you don't borrow money from the corps you can stay away with it.
And the most important thing is
I currently live in kangaroo land so lmao

>>4770110
say again in english

>>4770407
no

>>4763813
of course they'll be more popular
they don't pander to the baka gaijin too much

>>4769921
weird japanese accent which i don't like
reddit pandering content which I hate
china taiwan politics bs don't give a fuck
The EOP who get into vtuber because of her should be in gas chamber.
That's my opinion

>>4763813
Collab between them would be actually funny.

>>4771705
Based and truthpilled. If not because of the Taiwan shit, she will be one of the most hated Hololive along with Kiara and Mori.

>>4771225
Welcome out of that induced coma anon, Niji now has introduced an proper EN branch also

>>4771705
based chinabro

>>4771705
>The EOP who get into vtuber because of her should be in gas chamber.
Cant believe I agree with a zhang.

>>4771883
>>4772367
Don't fall for it that's how they get you

>>4772407
No need to fully agree with me western anon.
But remember :
truth is always a little painful

>>4771165
oh no no no

>>4772688
Why do chinks love japan and hate america suddenly
Why are you faggots so weeb

>>4771705
Based

>>4771705
basado

>>4765396
>Japanese content
>Youtube
You know Nijisanji has a Chinese speaking branch that streams on Bilibili... right?

>>4773560
he's a larper what the fuck does he know

you know what else is painful? 4chan is still alive

>>4773658
4chan? What is that? This is 4channel, you know.

>>4773560
Oh yes good reminder, i haven't even start talk about Virtuareal yet. Do you know VR is owned 90% by Chaodian--- one of the sub-company of Bilibili?
And their income donation are getting slaughtered by random Chinese indie Vstreamers?
The reason they are still existing is because they are owned by the platform itself. So they are just burning their own cash to keep it alive.
Anycolor has no actual business in there not anymore. They still wrote about it but it really has nothing to do with them.
Anycolor see through it and revealed the plan to debut the proper NijiCN during 2020 ,which ended up nowhere.
Majority of the Niji fan in China does not see them as Nijisanji not anymore.
Just wanna tell you that.

>>4774029
>Anycolor has no actual business in there not anymore.
Then why they sent Lize and Ririmu at the Nanami birthday concert?

>>4763813
>male niji > holostar
they're already winning tho

>>4774095
come on it's just pre-record dance.
Virtuareal paid good money to get it.

>>4765586
I guess not all Zhang are bad...

>>4771705
Based and unbiased zhangbro

>>4772143
i mean their jp talents still aren't pandering to eops and esls as much as holo jp, i take it that my point still stands

>>4771705
based zhang

>>4774029
Jesus, HoloEN is really Niji's last hope at a successful foreign branch huh?

>>4770350
china just went full crapitalist bros... so much for communism

>>4774237
Or NijiEN, rather...

>>4774029
>Anycolor see through it and revealed the plan to debut the proper NijiCN during 2020 ,which ended up nowhere.
Considering VR was the culmination of the lessons learned while running their own Chinese branch(es)... I doubt they'd do that again.

>>4774029
But I see nijicn here and seems theyre doing fine.

>>4774251
it's only from the economic side. Culturally, they are still devoid of any basic human necessities like the fact that you are not CCP's fucking slave.

>>4773485
Your first mistake is believing that they have any capability of exercising free thought. If their shit government told them to hate something, then they will hate it without question

>>4774269
there are only two in this chart: yousa at (2), she was recruited directly with her 2 millions subs from past account, much like if HoloCN just announce S○○zawa joins instead of sharks.
Another one is Aza at (27) which is the few that can considered successful in VR (still only surpassing other indie and small agency by a tiny bit).
Judging by how many talent VR has (over 30 now?) I think it's safe to say they are getting crushed by the others.

>>4774420
my bad i mean to say HoloEN

>>4771705
a based zhangbro
humanity still have hope

>>4764032
Kuzuha isn't that good at apex, he is too bloodthirsty and dies a lot in unnecessary fights because he isn't watching the area and what looks like an easy pickoff turns into a 3vs1 but what he can do is stream 6-11 hours 5 days a week. That gave Korone a buff, Pekora, anyone who can pull that off will get good numbers. Niji has everything, a teacher, a "medical person", a ronin, ect. Real people who stream as a hobby because they like it. Noel is the closest to that because she actually puts hours into her streams but makes way more money on her other job.

In Japan, the correct story is that vtubers themselves are more likely to be a part of a breakthrough.
I'm sorry I can't give you specific numbers, but it's in the form of box fans who first recognize that "vtubers are on fire" when either Hololive or Niji-sanji is on fire, and then go around correcting that later.
The reason why Koro-san says "I'll try not to destroy your memories" when he plays retro games is because when he played Mother 2 before, he said on Twitter "Mother 2 was trending and I expected it to be a new game, but it was just some unknown V playing it, go fuck yourself! The reason I say this is because when I played Mother 2 before, my tweet "Mother 2 was trending on Twitter and I expected it to be a new game, but it was just some stranger playing V. Fuck you!

For this reason, the question "Which is more popular in Japan? is a very difficult question to answer. First of all, the premise is that the majority of people don't have an accurate grasp of who is where.
Light users are not aware of where the countless vtubers belong.

But at least until Coco Kiryu becomes popular in 2020, it's Niji-sanji. It's safe to say that they had the upper hand until last summer's Koshien. With the debut of the 5th season of Hololive and the appearance of EN, there is now a huge difference in "numbers".
Companies have started to ask for work from Hololive, which has more than one million users.

However, I can understand why such threads appear on 4channel.
The reason why these threads appear on 4chan is because men are clearly the strongest in Niji-sanji. If you only look at male vtubers, Nijiji is powerful.
Most of the other well-known male vtubers are known to have dual careers as manga artists, so they are naturally perceived as Nijiji.
Many of these "Niji-sanji male fans" are aggressive towards female vtubers, and in this day and age, male fans as well as fujoshi are loudly saying things like "women are flattering, so men are more interesting.
Therefore, in reality, in Japan, it is only those who watch the show, mainly men, who say that "the popularity of the Chronowa area and Kenmochi = the popularity of NijiSanji.

In addition to this, there is a part of Niji-sanji where the women are not as good and their popularity is decreasing.
Take a look at Matsuri and Yuuki Chihiro who had their first meeting at the Niji APEX tournament and decide which one is better.
Or Mito has started playing with four people called VWW. It's symbolic that he's having fun with the other members of the group except for Lizzy who adores him.
The others are APEX, who either expose their lack of academic ability or don't talk much.
Only Nui is supposed to be a talker, but he doesn't play games for foreign nikkies, so he might be a true example of "popular in Japan".

>>4774420
Based zhangbro. Thanks for the unbiased opinion
Genuine question tho, how do AI-chan (the OG one not the CN) doint over there?

>>4775029
Engrish plisuuu

>>4765649
>guys i hear the japan situation is like this
>well according to my south korea numbers you are wrong ;)
Holy shit you are retarded. Kek.

>>4775029
fujoshi are not watching nijisanji in the large numbers you think they do

>>4775168
Niji fans are always in denial about the Fujo takeover when in reality you are no batter than the fat bitches pushing Gravitation on all anime fans 20 years ago.

>>4775072
better than nobody i suppose.
people respect her sure, but the tight fan group dedicates to her are very small,tons of dead subs tho.

>>4774420
whos more popular, Aqua or Diana?

>>4765649
Considering Hololive doesn't even have a KR branch and Niji does, this is just sad. I imagine its mostly from the whole 'Detective Amelia Watson' thing on national news that happened there. Its like god himself put that shitpost there to be discovered given how lucky Hololive has been with coincidences that opened markets.

>>4775223
>fujo takeover
because cnr and meschers are the only vtubers in nijisanji right

>>4775346
Diana you mean that A-soul one?
Since Aqua no longer able to stream in bilibili it's hard to tell. But Diana absolutely blew the fuck up, even if Diana hasn't surpass Aqua now, it is just the matter of time.

>>4775168
Yeah, I don't think they've seen us.
In extreme cases, I think the current situation in Japan is that Nijisanji is only popular among men and its fans are noisy.

>>4763813
Not my problem.

>>4775223
fujo takeover isn't real. Why? Because even Zepp Fukuoka got 70% male audience.
That along let me believe the fujo take over was never a thing. They might be rich as hell but by quantity not gonna take over anything.

>>4771705
Coco doesn't have Japanese accent anon, it's just her voice. At first she exaggerated her "broken" Japanese, but she dropped that now.

>>4775559
they're just loud on twitter so anons believe they're everywhere, they are a loud minority

>>4765396
Speaking of China, do you know why they call holofags apricots?

>>4771705
chinabro i kneel

>>4775325
Does she still make contents at BiliBili? Or is it all aiCN over there?

>>4775401
>'Detective Amelia Watson' thing on national news
Spoonfeed onegai anon

Companies in JP have come to notice Hololive. They are cheap to employ and get good investment back like selling out products (liquor/noddles) and merch collaborations. Fubuki and Aqua have a sponsorship with Red Bull that resulted their product that they collaborated on sold out immediately.

>>4775581
She talked about how she couldn't even read kanjis and just pretended to interact with the chat in her second stream. Kanata and Coco talked about how Coco even talked broken japanese offstream. I am no fan of Coco but she really went all the way and teached herself japanese in a short time. She still doesn't know quite a few words just watch the MC/MH collabs from the last days. Then we have "I'd like to but i can only learn japanese if i have the perfect teacher" Moona

>>4775966
red bull is everywhere desu

>>4775401
Yagoo has the luck of gods when you think about it. Cover/Hololive were nothing back in 2019. By miracle the virus happened which resulted in people staying home and watching more Youtube. During this time a bunch of meme's of the Holo members went viral. Fubuki's Pineapple short, Miko's GTA shorts and a bunch of other Holo stuff. They went from being nobodies to being the top dog in less than a year in 2020.

>>4770110
Holofags are holofags, nijifags are nijifags, indiefags are indiefags, etc.. Fag as a suffix is not an insult, or people wouldn't saw drawfag or writefag.

>>4775966
It's Botan and Aqua. I don't think they are that cheap but I guess if you compare them to a movie star then sure. Employing them is better. They are probably getting paid higher than your normal influencer because they have corporate backing

>>4776075
Whoops meant Botan.

>>4776049
Yagoo seems to be that dude that just steam rolled through everything. We now know that it was A-chan that proposed the Vtuber thing to him and practically managed it. Yagoo just backed it up and then hired a bunch of other people to help A-chan

>>4775752
>apricots
it's a funny word game, hololive = ホロライブ
the katakana ホロ can be combine into one kanji 杏 which means Apricot

>>4776075
>>4776099
Botan btw is just winning the sponsorship game. She has had Microsoft, Red Bull, Square Enix, Family Mart and WOT

>>4774269
What metric is this table based on? Bili pts? I thought hanser, ruki or nanami will be bigger than Aza

>>4775168
You being ignorant won't deflect the reality anonchama. Fujoshi have already infiltrated Nijisanji. JP nijifags would agree.

>>4776120
What’s wrong with it I don’t see the problem

>>4775902
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0faz0n6fevM&feature=youtu.be

HoloEN is gaining traction in Korea, bizarrely

>>4771705
Wait... there are actually based zhangs out there.

>>4775966
As an SSRB i love Botan but she always was a sellout. It's not what she does but how she does it is interesting. Are people not watching FBK? The laptop promo? Iphone? Remember the Curry promo? They always had some promotions but in comparison to niji it's pale.

>>4776210
Nabi is Korean. Her fashion sense is very korean. I thought it would be Ina but nope. Ame was the one that got noticed

Reading these comments, JP really has taken a notice to Holo huh?, I expect good things from here on out, by the end of 2021, they'll be awcknowledged as the most successful Vtuber company.

>>4776195
There's nothing wrong with it. I just meant to say that he went all-in. Almost every idea and hiring decision that he chose to back up was actually great.

>>4776254
It will be the downhill for Vtuber then.
It means the vtuber era of creativity\entertainment has gone and become just another otaku service.

>>4776245
What are you on about. The curry song was very successful. The concert was really good. All of their merch sells like hotcakes. You don't have a chance to reminisce because of the fact that there is always a new promotion where the talents are featured or to be featured

Nijiniggers will now start crying about how nips don't use Google and only use yahoo. Or they will say the trends weren't generated properly.

>>4776254
That would be sad since Cover gives zero effort to what they do.

>>4776338
I doubt it. A lot of the big companies are actually jumping in to the trend unironically.

>>4765649
As I've always said Hololive's appeal is simply unmatched. Literally The McDonald's of the Vtuber industry. The fact that this unbound appeal stretches to places like China, Korea and the entire South East Asia regions is a miraculous feat even for vtubers. Never mind them cornering the EN market as well. Niji will never catch up. No matter how many Apex Kids tokyo Ghoul attracts to the niji brand, no matter how many tournaments niji organize. All of them will end up flowing to the superior hololive brand. Thanks Enikara.

>>4765834
based department

stop using mito's face for these retarded bait threads

>>4776249
>Some gooks made a shitpost about Ame looking into a high profile death online
>some journalists took it seriously and published it a national new headline
>It was taken down, but other new networks now talks about it
>HoloEn and Amelia became known around South Korea overnight

This is stranger than fictions. Not gonna lie

>>4775029
Thanks nip bro for your analysis.

>>4776444
YAGOO has to be the luckiest person alive. The amount of strange coincidences that have led to Hololive becoming a worldwide sensation is kind of insane.

>>4776387
those so called big company with their scripted talent that can't run by itself without the entire studio and team, got smashed by nijisanji once.
And will get smashed twice by either niji or holo.

>>4776444
Is this a bad thing or a good thing? I am not sure

>>4776500
What I am pointing out is that vtubing won't fade away. Big corps are jumping in the wagon because they now know that this is the safest type of marketing that they can do to "humanize" their brand.

>>4765396
thanks zhang

>>4776444
In Korea, a recent wave of clips of Hololive took off. In a lot of ways, the Korean market right now is similar to what was happening a year ago in the West, (basically imagine early /jp/ Hololive community). If the popularity continues, I could see the community here grow large, especially since livestreaming is a huge thing in Korea.

>>4776254
A strong oversees following will increase your domestic presence. The same thing that happened to Kizuna is now happening to hololive.

>>4763813
Niji haven't been popular in Japan for almost 2 years now. They're just waiting for the last big drama to happen and they'll close the company down for good. They're in the same situation as idolbu, not relevant, vtuber fans hate them. Their numbers are kinda high because of bots. Think about it, there's some literally who in Niji that consistently get way too many viewers despite having only 300k subs. That's suspicious as fuck but people don't notice it because the guy doesn't stream often.

>>4776550
I'm so confused right now, NijiKR exists but they decided to watch HoloEn and HoloJp instead? I really don't understand how you guys think

>>4776444
>>4776550
https://twitter.com/hololive_kr
time to put this account to use.

>>4776625
I knew it!

>>4776512
For holofags and numberfags, a 'good thing' perhaps

for the rest of us, thanks for letting korean normies in, are we gonna get KOP spam sooner or later?
Fucking hate it,normie cancer

>>4776632
Well for starters, the vtuber market in Korea is in it's complete infancy right now. For example, people can't tell the difference between Hololive and Nijisanji right now.

>>4776399
Based paragraph poster.

>>4776625
crawl back to your schizo dream holonigger, you don't know shit about nijisanji or drama or idolbu or japan. get fucked

>>4776694
Cope

>>4776671
>>4776652
They love stereotypes out there especially in their idol groups. They have the most dedicated fans that you can get if they latch unto you who would also attack you over nothing.

>>4776632
The reason is quite simple anonchama. Hololive has by far the better brand.
>>4776399

>>4776625
>Think about it, there's some literally who in Niji that consistently get way too many viewers despite having only 300k subs. That's suspicious as fuck but people don't notice it because the guy doesn't stream often.
You mean how it should normally be? Hololive sub numbers are inflated by EOPs (that's (You)) who leave a sub and never watch them again. JOPs don't give out subs that easily.

>>4776625
I don't know man. I think Hololive inflated subs is more suspicious than Nijis views. If anything Nijis view number are proof that Nijis subs is not dead subs and percentage of viewcount reflect their subs. Meanwhile Holo view count percentage is too small compared to their subs. The ratio is too imbalance. It's like some bots spam the accounts and mass subscribe all the Holos. I'm not saying Covers involved in this. It might be their numberfag fans.

>>4776354
Merch and Promos are 2 different things. They actually have to pay for their merchs from what Lamy said. What i am saying is that niji is way more active in that region. Holo does like 3 items a year, birthday, anniversal and an x00 sub number . You could sell every month with every talent a voicepack.
Astel deactivated his Superchat until he levels up? Mayazumi hasn't even bothered to make a membership and only once activated superchat because he is making money simply off his merch.

>>4776816
Yet hololive still dominates.

>>4776782
I would like to call you cope but you can't deny this bizarre phenomenon where KOP whose market is infamous for being hard to break into, are now falling into Hololive rabbit hole. It absolutely make no sense even to me, an EOP holofag

>>4776843
They are still merch and voice packs . You can go to their webpage right now. They have a lot of merch that is selling right now that is not themed. Even the themed one are still available. They have a ton of tie-in merch deals right now, Family mart, glasses, perfume, nendos through good smile, stukkomi, molly, Capcom and whatever the other is. What you are saying is 2020 info.

>>4776876
Jesus stop with the dramatic its too early to tell. Those gooks are probably american gooks and their relatives

>>4775029
Is this an AI prompt?

>>4776876
>I would like to call you cope but you can't deny <something something completely unrelated to what was being said in the reply chain>
Retard. Get out of this website.
>rabbit hole
>>>/r/eddit

>>4776816
aren't both of these explained pretty cleanly by hololive's superior global reach?

hololive has a more global audience, so they have a much bigger pool of subs to draw from. hololive has a globally distributed audience, so their live viewer count is relatively low, especially for HoloEN. Hololive's VOD views are way higher than niji's because the audience is real, it's just not able to catch their stuff live because of timezones.

>>4776867
Comparing Global number vs Japan only is retard.

>>4776637
If this happens,there's a chance hololivekr will follow Kpop culture.

>>4776927
>Those gooks are probably american gooks and their relatives
Nah. I can tell that's not the case because I can see stuff on online gook communities talking about Hololive.

>>4763813
At least they got the fujo market by the vag, right?

>>4777001
What are the chances failed kpop idols are gonna jump into the whole vtubing thing and blew up? It's better to be vtubers anyway cause they don't need to dress for appearance anymore

>>4777201
>thinking kshit bitches will waste all that plastic to hide behind an avatar

>>4776986
NijiKR NijiEN NIJIID NIJIIN. Yet nijifags will still insist that niji is Japan only. Wake the fuck up nijifaggot. Even with all these branches hololive still dominates. That's the reality. You may cry now.

>>4777201
Well honestly, sky's the limit. There are plenty of retired/failed idols, streamers, and pro-gamers that would be willing to take the chance. But it all depends on 1) Them knowing about Hololive and vtubers, and 2) Hololive even willing to open a KR branch

>>4776923
I don't buy physical merch anymore i had too many "lost in delivery" I really want Botans bowl but i doubt it will arrive. If you live in japan good for you. If you said famima here on the street people would think you are crazy. Mayazumi my boy still does not have a membership, that info is 2021 and with just one click he could activate members or sc but he doesn't. Seems like he is still doing good 2021 with his merchs only.

>>4777201
the successful vtuber are always the one with talent and their face doesn't matter.
However,99% of the kshit are the one who has zero talent but the face.
It is the exact opposite of vtuber concept

>>4777274
Won't some poor koreans try to get in on the action? Surely a live2d rig is cheaper than extensive plastic surgery

>>4777001
As long as holo korea maintains the hololive streaming culture. I think that will be enough to filter out any hardcore toxic retads.

>>4771705
Based vt Zhang to date. I only kneel to you.

>>4777328
I'm talking about Holo. They have merch available. As well as concerts, sponsorships and tie-in merch. They also turn on memberships and SCs. I don't think it's because they need the money at this point. It's probably because they are mandated to keep it open.

>>4771705
based and redpilled

>>4777413
I remember one of the hologirls being reminded to even open their SCs on their free chat by their managers. I think it's Cover that wants to keep the money rolling everywhere

>>4777331
I want to bet on the 1% chance of those highly talented girls who are good at games, great singer and are sensible enough to learn that looks=/=everything would join HololiveKR.

>>4777328
I want to buy that botan bowl so much

>>4776550
Gura recently thanked her KR SC in Korean...
I tuned in to Matsuri's celebration, and she thanked her SCs in multiple languages. jfc

>>4776049
For real! If you think about it, hololive has some kind of deity guarding them
>Sora and A-chan knocking and their door
>Yagoo offered partnership and by spring 2018 Sora blew up in popularity
>Hitomi Chris incident got disclosed 4 days after their receive their first investment and shut it down quickly.
>Hired top talents like Fubuki who basically carry the whole gen
>Gen 2 gain massive inclined in bilibili
>Gen3 gain massive inclined in JP
>The whole hololive inclined in 2020
>EN blew up the whole vtubing scheme
>Hololive gain massive boost and shit tons of sponsor

>>4776210
Based

>>4776210
Lmao this shit is hillarious

>>4776245
Keep inhale take copium nijifags

>>4776338
That era of creativity has long gone since nijisanji lazyass mass produce 2D livers inspire everyone to go halfass

>>4776364
Luck has always been the no.1 factor in bussiness anon..

>>4775029
Based info! Thanks JPbro

>>4776550
It's a matter of time for Holo Korea then. Nice, i can watch it in my native languange

>>4777001
That's based. Imagine something similar to Apoki

>>4777762
you are completely not aware P-maru here is talking about the corporate 3D vtuber format right? Do you even knew the creativity era is about?
It is literally Mito and friends, the good old days where the creator owns the character, building their own lore and execute it.
Minai Karte, Natori Sana, The Niji Seeds and their crazy 24hr stream. Tenkai and Tenmakinin the legendary night etc etc etc
Where everyone is unique. Unlike the fucking corp 3D vtuber, all these thanks to Mito proves that live2D stream vtuber can be god tier entertaining and everyone can become a vtuber, without a whole team writing script and preparing million yen worth of 3D equipment.
Newfag makes me laugh

>>4776778
I have to agree to this. A good chunk of nijisanji watcher doesnt even know nijisanji or the vtuber they watch affiliated with them. Only the popular ones carry that brand with them, unlike Hololive. So it's not far untill Hololive took over their tittle as JP most well known group.

>>4777328
Man i feel you. I hope they have partnership with some international distributor in the future

how do i stop people supporting Niji???
t. yahoo

>>4765396
if you're still here, what do you think of the whole very strict rules that got setup for virtual tubers? how did the cn fans react?

>>4776001
at the very least she improved a lot, meanwhile my japanese reps...

>>4774269
>>4774420
What happened to the other VirtuaReal Stars?
I'm looking at this https://vtbs.moe/ and there's a hanser and 祖娅纳惜 with big sub numbers but they're not on the chart.

>>4778167
You can order the nendo matsuri and I'm assuming all other nendos that will be released through the goodsmile us website. It's shipping domestically in the US and Canada

>>4770350
Really, then explain explain what happened with mad dog? Just made posts calling martial arts fake online and couldn't rent an apartment, own a car, or go food shopping

>>4763813
The real question is, what's wrong with you?

>>4776444
>Some gooks made a shitpost about Ame looking into a high profile death online
>some journalists took it seriously and published it a national new headline

Ame is the Sam Hyde of Korea, you cant make this shit up

>>4776069
You really think touristchamas know that?

>>4780095
It is just some group of interest paid a corrupted system to cancel someone.
He got cancelled hard because he touched someone's cake. Does not mean a credit system exists and applied for everyone.

>>4779597
VRS is a program dedicated to recruit existing huge channel. But subs doesn't mean those people are good at stream or people are willing to pay them like other vtuber.

>>4779478
Bilibili is known for double standard, if the streamer sign the contract with them they can often get away with it. But if you are nobody you got banned 3~6 days.
people there are more angry about the double standard instead of the actually not soo strict rules.

>>4763813
4Chan has never heard of a trolling or a joke before shocking.

>>4785274
>if you are nobody you got banned 3~6 days.
people there are more angry about the double standard instead of the actually not soo strict rules.
that sounds just like youtube, by the way someone has organized details regarding the chinese government and vtubers in general incase you are interested in the western perspective.
https://www.reddit.com/r/VirtualYoutubers/comments/n0i4ie/updated_cnbilibili_rules_for_vtuber_avatars_a/
https://pastebin.com/0VfB2BnS

>>4771705
holobased

>>4776245
>promo
Are you saying when Fubuki was sharing with us her phone case trouble and how if we bought an IPhone 12 Pro max we'd have the same phone as her she was shilling for Apple?

>>4775029
お前日本人じゃないだろ

Can the nips in this thread explain to me the Nuifag/Hololive/Miitopia drama happening in Futaba?

hilarious that any explanation that defends niji is met with deflection but any random comment that's pro-holo is totally acceptable even without evidence

>>4791175
flat earther = nijisanji
rational human being = hololive
you don't argue with the fact that earth is round

>>4775966
A lot of Nijisanji deals were signed when they were the dominant force. Now that they have some competition the sponsorships are being split more evenly.

>>4790959
they dont even matter. most jp vtuber fans dont give a shit about either futaba or 5ch. they are on twitter and youtube. thats why vtubers became popular in japan. if vtubers stuck to nico and oldfags from 5ch/futaba they wouldnt have been this popular.

Sigh, why is everybody getting roped in an obvious bait thread?

>>4778043
>creativity era
>It is literally Mito and friends
That goblin destroyed the fad with her low quality content. She sent the fad to the dark ages with her washing machine stream. With her arrival the golden era ended.

>>4778043
>Tenkai and Tenmakinin the legendary night
That was before the arrive of la goblina. What the fuck are you talking about? Let me guess, are you one of the schizos on /jp/ numberfagging and insulting Kizuna Ai for being souless and not "wholesome"?

>>4791771
the niji is seething that /vt/ is not dominated by their company

>>4764032
Most of his fans are high school to college age, the Apextards included

>>4776550
>Create Indian branch
>dies
>create Korea branch with multiple waves
>Hololive still wins Korea
>create Chinese branch
>Aqua is still more popular than most of your livers despite being illegal
>Create ID branch
>the star hitter went from being the english vtuber to being mogged by orders of magnitude by Hololive. Others flounder to compete with HoloID
>Finally make a proper english branch to the english game
>NijiEN is too late and is meh overall, HoloEN is too entrench for them to not look like an off brand
Nijisanji had bad luck and Hololive had good luck. No other way to explain it. At least they still have a good showing in the domestic market and have more diverse revenue streams.

>>4792427
>Nijisanji had bad luck
They had first mover advantage and they blew it up. Just like Ai-chan.

>>4776354
Keep inhale take copium holofags

>FiSh aNd ChIpS aNyOnE?????

>>4792427
It isn't really luck. It's more like a series of good decisions. First good decision is of course hiring great talents. A lot are really good self-promoters. Next is getting the right sponsorships like Azure Lane. Next is jumping in the market like CN. Next is dropping out of CN because this one move solidified the EOP fanbase to saviorfag. Next is jumping into another market. Hiring next set of great talents. Getting suitable promotions for them. Jumping in making 3 concerts since the boom happened. It's also great that the talents themselves create consistent content that are memeable and clippable so rewatch and recognition value is high.

>>4771705
wtf i love china

>>4771705
the fuck is this casual chink insect and these "based" chinky redditor casuals coming out of the woodwork.
eventually, you only prove redditor bugs are the same insects as you chinks

>>4799563
how many times are you samefagging, dumb chink insect