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14 talents....

honestly yuri should just graduate and phase out

>>48018459
>▼Fuura Yuri ふうら百合 (EN) [Terminated]
sex cat...

>>48018459
Yuri should be deleted after her last video and Phase Friends should include ones who are relevant and actually interact with PC talent.

>>48018459
17 talents
1 stream
Honestly Panko should graduate and phase out. number 17 fucking sucks

>>48018459
Terminated feels kinda mean. I prefer the upside down cross myself.

Everything sucks.

cat sex

I love Shiina!

>>48018611
>interact with phase talent
>only one they collabed with is yuri
this post isn't as clever as you think it is

>>48018605
She stopped around the time the Wonders AI stuff was happening with her.

>>48018631
Be lucky that the bakers are even keeping her in the OP.

>>48018683
Only antis support removing her. People will go to the Yuri threads.

>>48018683
Give it time, the links will be replaced with an ancestor's shrine soon enough.

Place your bets. Place your bets.
Eating dinner rn will update Rates when I get home.
All odds are +1 (ie Pippa 2:1 -> 1:1)
Except Uruka and Sakana who are both +2
Current Bets
>>48018177

>>48018611
I can't wait for precisely none of these people to ever join the company

>>48018284
Can she still make money from her discord groomers? Otherwise I don't know how a girl with no work experience and no discipline could have the security to refuse whatever the fish was offering.

>>48018742
Lumi should vore Yuri. It would be the happy ending.

>>48018742
: (

>>48018631
she has earned terminated, because that is what she was. she wasn't graduated, she wasn't upside down crossed, she was terminated.

>>48018767
What fish was offering her is her keeping her job and nothing more

>>48018767
Every woman is just a phone call from being saved.

>>48018799
He will sell the cutout on the black market as a collectible

>>48018683
Because any time the OP get changed people autistically flip out. This is why the Phase Friends are still full of people who don't do anything and are not talked about.

>>48018799
Pipkun can you do a drawing of Lia holding Yubi over a cliff trying to save her, but their hands slipping apart and she falls?

>>48018767
you literally don't know what the fish was offering. people can be petty. he could just have put that to make himself look good in the exchange even if his offer wasn't reasonable or possible at all.

I wonder how the guy who spent all that money on her cardboard cutout feels

ch

>>48018871
Unlucky cat tried to fuck with the OP.
Then argued in his junevile smug writing style over 3 threads.

Lumi always said they'd graduate together.
She was right.

Skinny!
Neurotic!
Tomboyish!
Hag!
Geeky!
Obsessive!
Suicidal!
Parasocial!
Sleep deprived!
Never parties!
Self loathing!
No appeal!
https://files.catbox.moe/w82q7e.mp4

>>48018893
Probably something close to this

>>48018893
At least he got a collection item now, imagine the people who donated for her computer lol

Keeping her in OP with TERMINATED is stern. Stern, but fair.

>>48018799
lol

>>48019013
Imagine the people who bought her coffee beans made with monkey feces.

Banko today?

>>48018954
qrd?

>>48018891
That seems like it'd be a suicide move. Phase connect seems like a place where the girls collectively have a decent amount of leverage. Can you imagine, say, Tenma staying quiet if some outright unfair shit happened with another talent? They probably all talk to each other about management, you know.
This guy is closely watched by 14 drama prone young women. He plays games with them and hangs out in the discord and shit, he's not isolated like some hololive CEO. I just don't think it's likely that he's outright fucking anyone over, because they'd all tear into him instantly.

How fucked up would it be if the new invaders get announced immediately after the Yuri farewell stream ends?

I haven't actually watched Yuri since her new model debut.

>>48019090
No streams today.

NO PIPPANTS
NO PIPPANTIES

>>48019131
I am oit

>>48018799
gonna steal it and post under pc annoucment

>>48019115
Lumi has a leopard fur coat now

This graduations the breaking point for me, I loved yuri. After 4 years I think I'm done with vtubers, and this boards rapid decline. I'm just gonna stick to /a/ now and shitpost in bocchi threads.

>>48019124
that would be based. Fuck the traitors, long live PHASE CONNECT

>>48019197
Well, that original phrasing implied something very different

>>48019208
ok

>>48019208
>rapid decline
That implies it was ever good

>>48019090
If-a anybody-a streamin' today imma be-a the big surprise!

>>48019090
banko seems indecisive today

Morning /pcg/, I love Panko

>>48019208
>and shitpost in bocchi threads
ynbaw

Honestly I wish they would just air the farewell video tonight. Get it over with.
Things are gonna die down starting tomorrow, things will be mostly fine, and then the video will happen and the dramaniggers will have new life dissecting the vid like the JKF film.

>>48019259
Panko is here to save Brooklyn (and Queens)

>>48019244
The joke is that Lumi graduated from school last week.

Recent Post-Cyberlive Drama
>Lumi uses Hylo, Yoki, and Emma’s models as an April Fools Prank
>They cry to the official phase connect account on twitter who apologizes to them
>Menace encourages Sava to unionize Gen3 against Kawaii
>Gen3 leaves the company
>Yuri graduates

Also old but
>Prussianbot leaks Vera flying out to fuck him and the rest of her paypigs the day before Vera’s redebut.

What did we learn from this /pcg/?
How would you rate Cyber Arc season 2?

>>48019295
OH
i get it now

lol

>>48019013
they get refunds apparently

I kept telling you that Yuri was a fucking nigger. I was right all along.

>>48019208
See you next week

>>48019336
You don't need to attach a file to everything you say bro

>>48019310
>inane bullshit
I learned that a certain /pcg/ schizo is a massive faggot who can't even be bothered to attempt to tie separate events together convincingly.

The Invader program doesn't seem like a great idea anymore desu

>>48019310
Wait Menace was behind Kawaii losing their #2 & #3?

>>48019397
He does because Pippa and Lumi filter out rvery post without an attached image.

Lia better show for those Honkai streams. She doesn't need the chinese yakuza coming after her.

>>48019310
So surely Lumi's next on the chopping block, right? She's gotten away scott free for far too long, and now sge's lost her last meatshield.

>>48019412
>Lumi has cyberlife drama on April 1
>Yuri has her farewell phase video April 30
It’s pottery

>>48019124
>stream
It's a prerecorded video.

>>48019492
She'll be fine, slippery snakes always have an escape plan.

https://files.catbox.moe/xf6wa3.png
Have you?

>Lumi had Yuri graduate
and people will defend her

I made a thing for yuri

>>48019528
considered what?

I love this Panda

>>48019454
NEET/codegoblin detected. Her being an imported identity has nothing to do with any of this.

Is drawanon still around?

>>48019461
Not directly but a major catalyst because Menace and Sava are friends and Sava bitched about how Kawaii was treating her poorly and she wanted to quit. Menace told her "why dont you quit then" which proceeded to escalate into the whole gen quitting.

I have a better idea: Invaders 2 announcement at the end of Yuri's pre-recorded video. Imagine the nuclear heat.

I liked the idea of Lia and Tenma doing the ISIS vid explaining what happened.

>>48019586
drawanon was yuri...

>>48019090
I don't think she'll stream today...I already miss her.

>>48019556
A horse penis as a masturbatory aid.

>>48019573
it does have something to do with it because she owned Yuri before joining phase connect.

I hope Lia streams this week.

>>48019412
Bringing back a bunch of old characters for a few episodes would be too contrived. Better to bring them back in separate episodes so that the audience feels that the oldguard CL’s influence still affects events in smallcorp vtubing.
>>48019461
Yeah Menace was big on interacting with gezu/pichi whoever sava is now. Before and after the 3rd gen termination. She has major trust issues for some reason and that behavior infected Sava.

jwu wtf happened

I want to watch an Airi VOD to lift my spirits. Any suggestions? I was gonna watch unpacking since I assume it's just a zatsu

>>48018611
After this kirsche will never join a corpo. And why the fuck would shondo join when she alone is bigger than phase connect?

>>48019573
Not saying it did. Just that you take your model into the company and then lose it if they graduate/terminate you seems kinda shit.

>>48019454
>The Invader program doesn't seem like a great idea anymore desu
its dead for sure
if anybody was thinking about it they wont do it

>>48019573
she lost her stuff despite coming in with it
while allowing talents just leave with their persona would hurt the company but ... fuck them
when a musician moves a label he dosnt fucking lose his stage name or band, the lack of talent freedom in vtubbing is disgusting and only enforced since most of them are kids or young adults with nothing else going on

>>48019689
>>48019599
Honestly kind of amazing that. Kawaii's Disney Adult approach to vtubing content has netted them some in-fucking-sane profits but they somehow can't avoid their talents going crazy and leaving.

>>48019726
Never underestimate women.

>>48019714
>she alone is bigger
Woah, let's not get ahead of ourselves.

>>48019677
She has to stream on wednesday for sure since she has the Honkai sponsor

>>48019492
2 more weeks, sisters

I'm hoping for a company collab tomorrow so people get the first stream out of the way together and return to normalcy.

>>48019726
>when a musician moves a label he dosnt fucking lose his stage name or band
anon that's blatantly untrue have you never even glanced in a record label's direction?
the shit that vtuber corpos do to talents is NOTHING compared to what some labels have gotten up to over the years

>>48019761
>Disney Adult approach to vtubing content
What does this mean

I am sad and angry and need someone to blame for this.
Who should I direct my autism at?

>>48019810
Me. I'm responsible. Hit me with your best shot.

>>48019492
I really doubt it. Lumi has one major edge -- She knows how to make people in charge of her feel respected.

>>48019522
Her escape plan is her master's degree. The reason she's so strong is she gives no fuck if she loses it all in vtubing.

>>48019726
>if anybody was thinking about it they wont do it
Repeat this one more time and it will surely become true, schizo.

>>48019810
Lia just go to sleep already

>>48019726
>when a musician moves a label he dosnt fucking lose his stage name or band
google tafkap

>>48019714
Pippa is bigger than Shondo, but yes she has no reason to join.

>>48019761
>Disney Adult
Died under Iger.
He toredown the boardwalk clubs and put up souless stores oyu can find in any mall in america.

>>48019810
You can abuse me, it's my fault.

>>48019810
Israel

>>48019810
send a cock and balls picture to sakana

>>48019793
weird autism brand loyalty caused by the extremely sanitized image

>>48019310
>What did we learn from this /pcg/?
That anyone named "Prussianbot" is either an uncontrollable autist or a fed.

>>48019397
But I like the image of Loomer

do you think we'll finally get that decapitation stream we've been waiting for in yuri's final vid

>>48019454
It was never a good idea. One of the biggest benefits of joining a company is them covering the creation of your assets for you, it makes no sense to pay for all of your own assets only to hand over ownership to a company. This is why every other small corpo that has taken on existing talents lets them retain ownership, it's a total rip-off otherwise.

>>48019860
This except send it to Yuri so she knows she's loved

>>48019810
Tribute the picture of Yuri's tits and spam it on the discord with 50 burner accounts @ing fishman

>>48019726
I don't appreciate you treating vtubers like helpless children. They're adults, they read the contract, nobody forces them to join a corpo. There are thousands of indie vtubers and many of them do just fine. They voluntarily chose to sign off their rights, in exchange for some deal that was fair to them.

>>48019791
oh thats true, labels steal money, steal tracks, and try to rip off everybody, truy to steal everything teh musician owns unclduing their pets, some of the biggest lawsuits in histoty are in music industry, especially over sampling and copyright

but thats not the standard operating method

vtubbers are expected to die when they graduate, and their channels are purged like they never existed, thats the norm here

>>48019810
Walmart.
You know what you need to do

>>48019946
yeah, its people like pippa or lia
the fact they allow it being done to them dosnt make it any better, both things can be true

>>48019946
>It's perfectly fine because there are victims
Gotta love this cuck logic

>>48019847
You not liking the moves doesn't affect what the broader culture thinks about it.
>>48019793
What the other person said yeah. Kawaii is basically projecting the image that pre-goslingcide Likers/Pipis had but across the whole company.

I hope Yuri reincarnates there's just something so special about her that is not the same with anyone else she the only person that gets me to cum in my edging consistently no one else is able to make me finish every time with just her voice why Yuri why phase why do you have to do this to me I just want my Yuri back please give me my Yuri back

>>48019810
fishman, it was his decision, and he needs to take the responsibility for good or bad

>>48018878
like this?

>an artist doesn't lose his stage name
Prince is the most prominent example of that not being true.

Invader program is a great thing for a motivated player.
Without it, Lumi would be nowhere. She is a high motor chuuba with ambition, and she has used Phase to the best of her ability. Has grown, has gotten sponsors with real game companies, has scored high profile collabs.

Yuri is exact opposite. She is lazy and didn't use the platform Phase Connect gave her to do anything. She grew a little, took trips, bitched about wanting a new model, get the model, get dejected, collab with Lia, and then get fired. That's it. That was her run.

>>48019909
>>48019761
Menace’s groomer circle makes up a pillar of ex-gen3’s current fanbase. They filled in the hole left by the kawaii loyalists for better or worse.
>>48019791
The artist formerly known as Prince

>>48020115

>>48020115
Beautiful

>>48020115

>>48018611
>Shondo or Kirsche joining
lol, lmao even

Maybe the brown girl vtuber whose name I forget, sleepy maybe also too

>>48020115
I am surprised you managed to resist the urge to have lumi shit on her face while Yuri desperate clings to the edge.

I'm already bored of this Yuri thing

what did yuri do?

>>48019555
condolences on your lots anon

>>48020115
they will always and forever be my favorite phase ship. you could turn this into a masterpiece if cleaned up

>>48019837
you mean prince? what about him?
i bet he had dozens of lawsuits with label jews, but that wasnt my point, every industry sees fighting over money, even physical stuff construction

>>48020209
Nobody's sure.

>>48020144
>Invader program is a great thing for a motivated player.
Careful, femanons and other shitters might start seething over this.

>>48020206
it hasn't even begun, americans are waking up

>>48020124
My only frame of reference for Prince is the Chappelle Show and I refuse any other information about him because I'm sure reality will disappoint me

>>48020209
Have her virginity to a random at an anime con when she promised it to lia

You are now fully aware that the reason Lumi and Yuri had money for new models was that they sold the character rights to Phase.

>>48020115
rip

>>48019259
Michiru just streamed.

>>48020285
How is Phase going to make money off of models with no talent to use them?

I was just warming up to the cat, goddammit...

did you know?
technically if someone commits suicide they would have to terminate the contract instead of calling it anything else
i just thought that was interesting

>>48020209
Gave several of the other talents chronic lung damage with her napalm braps

I wish phase would come to a British con

>>48020206
its just starting, wait till people start tuning in to regular stream in couple hours
>>48020209
unless she shot up a mall i dont think the typical chink company shit fishman took was justified
every time i see that shitty graduation into nuke announcement i get a bit more pissed of

>>48020309
Those dirty fucking nips don't-a count.

wish lia could stream today, but i get it. she was headed for a week break anyway given the amount she has worked lately.

>>48020067
I can understand tearing down the clubs.
It’s replacing them with mall stores that’s soulless.
A disney shopping experience should have special stores if he wanted to go for that. The boardwalk is too bland.

Fuura Yuri is terminated, but what about Amaris Yuri?

>>48019726
I mean she signed the contract, it is kinda weird to lose even the previous model but she agreed to it.

>>48020309
not jab anough to make stink about yuri
lia, pippa and lumi are the ones expected to say something

>>48020285
No Lumi's model was paid through her first subathon. You'd know that if you weren't genuinely incapable of thinking beyond three minutes into the future or past.

>>48020411
She is steaming on twitch today

>>48020046
>cuck logic

Deliberately disingenuous retard believes reading the fine print in a contract and holding the people who sign them accountable is corpo cuck behavior

People like you genuinely astonish me

It's just gonna be this for the next 72 hours

>>48019946
NTA but I don't care about the corpo or fairness, only the talent.

>>48020446
Pippa will be real mature about it but inside freak out because she knows that fishman has a list of "contract violations" for her that he will use the moment she is outshined

>>48020539
720

>>48020232
he literally couldn't call himself prince because of copyright. had to go by 'the artist formerly known as prince'.

>>48020477
Explain to us what happened. Lay it out for us. You seem to have the answers. Let your truth speak for itself.
Come on. Don't be shy. Clearly you know something we don't. Make your case.

>>48019726
i am begging you to please read "the problem with music"

>>48020441
and its still fishmans and only his decision on whether to give it back to her or not
legit if they came out and said "yuri is leaving phase invaders, we wish her best of luck in her future endeavors" literally nobody would care, yuri keeps streaming, PC does their own thing

shitting out that graduation could only come out of spite, another proof asians have no souls

Could anybody elaborate for me what's henri?

>>48020559
yeah, it was probably like a shovel to the face for pipps, i legit expect her to stream as moth this week

>>48020595
Meds.

All this is making me want to get three promotions start investing in property and abandon my hobbies so I can be the perfect bf to a autist woman so she doesn't have to do shut like this

>>48020446
Lumi will give corpo speak.
Pippa shouldn't say anything that would be a huge mistake.
Lia may also give a pre prepared message, but then she will speak from the heart about it if she is really emotional (like with the yab apology)

>>48020452
Lia already scrapped the stream.

I miss her...

>>48020646
You already made this post.

>>48020599
You don't know what Yuri did, if she was stealing money I'd tell her to go fuck herself too.

>>48020644
A fat, flipo schizo. Don't worry about it.

>>48020599
If they just let them do that there's basically nothing stopping Lumi from threatening to just leave again if any disagreements arise.

>>48020599
unfortunately there is just no way to know what the terms of her contract were, and there is no reason to assume that all contracts, or even both invader contracts from that time, were exactly the same. the announcement is very vague, and just about the only thing meaningful one can take from it is that fishman recognized that she was trying, for some time, to fix whatever the problem was.

The truth is that Yuri has been an AI the whole time. After the death of CL Lumi was scared to go in by herself so she kidnapped Yuri, forcefully recorded voice lines for days on end before preserving her for her collection permanently. Now that she's graduated she feels better about herself so she's decided to let her lepr sleep for good.

>>48020665
She'll be ok eventually

ITT you're allowed to steal money, betray the company, spit in the face of the people who made it what is, and then also keep your likeness that you signed away.

>>48020736
Good.

>>48019121
Fish is a cunt, lepr told everyone she was getting terminated. It’s on the only available stream left of her on twitch.

Sakana is a snake, and the woman are cunts too

>>48020736
>explaining the obvious to the lowercase shitposter
He has been shitting up those threads for the last several hours.

>>48020781
>steal money
proofs? Just say it enough times until it's real, botsama

>>48020665
They shouldn't cancel streams like this, it's not fair on fans who don't give a shot about yuri or drama in general

So we just don't know

>>48020781
People are stating that signing away your likeness is scummy in the first place. Yeah it was in the contract. It shouldn't be. It's petty. The companies can't use the likeness after that anyway. They're keeping control over them out of spite.

>>48020860
No you're right they just terminated her because they didn't like the smell of her farts. Real petty this Phase Connect

>>48020644
Schizophrenic SEA stalker. Incessantly shat up /vt/ and /pcg/ in some retarded attempt to help Pippa. Got banned back in December and is now incessantly shitting up /vt/ and /pcg/ in some retarded attempt to destroy Pippa. He lives in this thread so now that you asked expect a wall of text about how he saved phase connect and Pippa was about to marry him until the phase jannies conspired against him.

>>48020898
at what price would you concede that it's okay for her to sell the rights to the design?

>>48020882
Glad you caught up

https://twitter.com/pipkinpippa/status/1650522382979719168
Uhhh what did she mean by this bros?

>>48020863
Would you rather tune in to a stream of Lia being depressed and unable to keep a positive vibe?
You might enjoy her sorrow, but that's not something she probably wants to share publicly.

Pippa love!

>>48020781
Stop being retarded, nothing has been proven and Fishman still seems to care for her.

>>48020948
DON"T DO IT PIPPA IT"S NOT YOUR FAULT

>>48020948
She's baiting Yuri to drop her alt in the replies for her fans to follow.

>>48020938
Your argument is that she had control over her likeness up until her termination and at that point she sold it?

>>48020898
Why should someone who has done wrong to company and give a black eye to the company name be given their model that is not legally theirs?

and don't give me the reddit "IT'S THE HECKIN DECENT HUMAN BEING THING TO DO!!!"
You know what be decent? If Yuri wasn't a fuck up so bad that she forced their hands to fire her. How about that?

>>48020957
She should surpress her feelings and carry on like an adult.

>Inb4 muh mental health meme
She can, she's just being a little bitch

>>48020578
thats wrong though
he did change his name to jew the jew, and release music under multiple labels despite signing an exclusivity deal with one

but yeah, i guess its kind of a legal dispute over a personal brand

>>48020948
I wonder if we're getting a moff stream soon

>>48020948
>>48020966
Pippa...

>>48021021
no, she had control up until she reviewed the invader contract and signed it, thereby selling it. at what price is it okay? one billion dollars? maybe a little lower?

>>48020948
She's awake? holy shit...

>>48021024
How about nobody cares about the company and the talent is always right?

>>48021024
>that is not legally theirs?
This is what people are having a problem with that you don't seem to understand. Why should the likeness not legally belong to the talent? You're not giving an explanation. I'm helping you understand why people are expressing their displeasure and you're not listening.

>>48020647
So you have nothing.

>>48021040
>haha h-heyyy guys
>i know my friend just got raped and murdered in front of me buuuuuuutttt
>LET'S HAVE A GREAT TIME WOO YEAH
>YOU H AVE STOLEN MY HEART
>OH YEAH

Unless Lia let's something slip we are never going to know for sure what happened. It'll be like Monoe all over again.

>>48021079
I don't think Pippa went to bed

>>48021067
why did sakana demand ownership of yuri for her to work at phase connect in the first place? that is the core of the issue

>>48020948
>>48021009
>>48021061
>>48021065
>>48021079
>>48021011
Kill pipnigs, behead pipnigs etc.

>>48021067
You're also not listening. Why is it commonplace for companies to buy the likenesses? Why is it all but enforced or no contract will be signed? Can you explain why the industry does this in a way that sounds reasonable?

>>48021127
Most likely.

Woah I didn't know /pcg/ had a whole law firm of BAR graduates

>>48021096
Is this a moral question or a legal one?

>>48020696
>You don't know what Yuri did, if she was stealing money I'd tell her to go fuck herself too.
oh fuck off, she didnt shoot up a school
even if it was a financial disagreement if she gets to keep the money she gets under the table or if fish gets a cut off that too or not, shitcanning her and taking her avatar is a typical chink bitch move

>>48021143
ok

>>48021164
Moral. Ideally laws should be ethical, and ethics are collective morals. There's a disconnect between what's right and what's happening. Why is it talents are unable to continue their career intact but the companies are? Why are the contracts so one-sided by default?

>>48021172
cope. your lazy theif got fired. she can't be yuri any more. say bye bye to yuri.

Muumi is going to have a rough week.

>>48020477
A contract isn't god jew-chama.
In any civilized country, if a contract is deemed abusive, exploitive or illegal, it is null and void. And legal rights to your craft aren't a simple discussion that can be justified with
>BUT SHE SIGNED IT

>>48021139
>>48021151
it is impossible to know the answer to that without being party to the contract negotiations. surely there is a price at which you would say it's fair, though, right?

>>48020736
>If they just let them do that there's basically nothing stopping Lumi from threatening to just leave again if any disagreements arise.
yeah, and that would be good for them would allow them to poach bigger indies under promise they can join or leave at any time
Lumi is twitch msotly, losing her wouldnt cost them as much

instead now one has to be retarded to do the invades shit, so if anybody was thinking but wasnt sure they wont do it now for sure

>>48021162
It’s the Rekieta fans who found Pippa through him.
The ones who get hair surgery and balldos.

>>48018459
>Sign the contract
>Break the contract
>Get punished according to the contract

>>48021172
>fishman fired yuri after her mkultra trigger failed to go off when he ordered her to commit mass manslaughter
i like this rrat

>>48021230
It's the killing bites of corporate life, whoever writes the most contracts wins.

>>48021238
ganbatte

I clipped out a few parts of Yuri's ASMR streams where she was being particularly doting and playful. Upon hearing the news about her I decided to upload what I have and share it with you all. Cherish these moments, hold them close. I know I will.
https://files.catbox.moe/d4agpw.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/blmxug.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/ho3f50.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/savd7l.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/nvvv6i.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/6hdzvi.mp4

Also here's Yuri's 3D model courtesy of >>48002440
https://files.catbox.moe/b18v9s.zip

>>48021230
>moral
Ah. Carry on then.

>>48021246
Why does he want it? Why does it matter what price it's at? Yuri's model is useless without Yuri. owning it for sakana is ONLY useful as something to hang over the vtubers' heads so they can't quit easily. This is unethical.

>>48021238
I like to think Muumi has been in an ongoing call with Pippa and Lia for the last 10 hours and she is trying to convine them both to got to sleep.

>>48021246
You're assuming the option was negotiable in the first place. People are remarking that it's unreasonable for the company to always maintain control over a talent's likeness. According to you the likeness was sold, but that's not something you can prove either. As far as we know no contract would have been signed if she didn't surrender that control.

When's the next Yuri stream? I miss her.

>>48021230
>>48021172
Reposting my reply:
You are mentally retarded. Company needs a leverage against an employee in this business, or else they can just go back to being an indie without any downside. Charity vtuber companies keep exploding for that particular reason.

>>48020948
pippa is isekaiposting again...

>>48021288
So you're not confused as to why people are irritated, you just want to shitpost by licking a boot.

https://twitter.com/brianstelter/status/1650522522578739202
interesting day for terminations today

>>48020760
you can chage the contract, its 100% on the fish
hes majority shareholder of PC, all trademarks are his to distribute, or her could allow her to us it pro bono

its 100% his decision to take her character, and only his, as far as i know there isnt any co owner he would have to vote teh decision over with

>>48021353
Premier on April 30th

>>48021360
>or else they can just go back to being an indie without any downside
How would that be bad for viewers or fans? You're acting confused as to why people are upset. Stop acting confused.

Pudgecat noooooooo
Why couldn't it be Rie instead, she is terrible

>>48021104
That's not comparable at all

could really use a Pippa, Tenma, Lia, Lumi and Uruka collab tonight where they just chill and breath.

>>48020926
Is this that guy who sent her 42 minutes video latter on the stream?

>>48021151
Yes, it's extremely obvious if you have 2 brain cells. If the companies don't have rights to the model, they have zero leverage. Half the entire point of a corpo compared to going indie is exposure, and if the company didn't have rights to the model, this would be instantly abused by talents just leaving once they got popular with nothing keeping them there. You would have to be a retard NOT to leave.

This is the exchange being made in a corpo. The streamer gets support, marketing and a brand behind them, and in exchange they don't get to fuck off whenever they want. You're basically arguing for the dissolution of all vtuber corporations.

It's pretty funny that so few people watch Yuri that nobody has the clip where she said she signed it over on hand but I guess that's to be expected.

>>48020692
i didnt, unless im going senile, or you are

>>48020948
>15 min
>over 150 replies

>>48021373

>14 talents
>0 streams

>>48021446
He's a communist. Communists always do.

>>48021446
>there's only one way to enforce a contract that involves holding everything of value hostage and leaving talents with absolutely nothing
Shut the fuck up.

>>48021340
>"BUT MUUMI! WHAT IF I GO TO SLEEP AND BY THE TIME I WAKE UP SOMEONE ELSE HAS LEFT THE COMPANY!?"

>>48021368
America was founded on fucking natives through contract law. It's one of our proudest traditions

>>48021305
tskr

>>48021005
>d-DONT probe too much o-okay! It’s totally for the talents sake not mine

Yuri told everyone what was coming. Sakana a snake

https://twitter.com/raildexs/status/1650470239488933888?s=46&t=jxW58zJAa66QQqIr_feUXA

>>48021527
>"I wouldn't worry about it..." says Muumi, as she finishes signing her resignation notice

>>48021024
Excel sakana is a sexual abuser, lepr didn’t want to give more compared to Uruka and Tenma, who willingly fucked him.

>>48021409
That's a bit of a wait, but I'll stay true until then.

Wemi’s 1st Phase collab outside of Gentoo. https://www.youtube.com/live/TiagTOgT4nw
They got along really well, I wish I got to see more. Yuri was ToT ing along with me during a Wemi date stream too. I won’t pretend to be a contract lawyer or that I have any secret inside knowledge, but it sucks that they couldn’t figure something out. Yuri was a good fit in Phase.

>have no knowledge of the actual situation
>make up facts
>pass widesweeping moral judgements on everyone involved based on said made up facts

>>48021360
>Charity vtuber companies keep exploding for that particular reason.
like cyberlife where lumi was supposed to work as a menager for free while the ceo just took $ off teh top while doing nothing?
thats not charity, thats a scam
>Company needs a leverage against an employee in this business, or else they can just go back to being an indie without any downside.
so maybe they should fucking offer some fucking benefits except keeping you hostage?
also stop pretending as if yuri and lumi didnt join as invaders with existing avatars, one would expect they leave the same way

>>48021340
Good shot that is happening considering Lia once recounted her average day with Muumi as
>2am
>Lia calls Muumi on discord
>she picks up
>Lia: "muumi muumi muumi muumi hi it's me lia. i love you hi!"
>Muumi: "lia..i'm off today:"
>Lia: '...oops..hey muumi whatcha doin?"

>>48021567
In any reasonable timeline termination discussions did not start until after anniversary stream. Yuri would not take $4000 dollars and run. Fishman does not allow a stream that could lead to him being down $4000.

GET FUCKED BANKO STILL STREAMS

>>48021373
Potentially gigabased?
Will Tucker finally be forced to confront reality and thus the [REDACTED]?

Yuri rode the coattails of pride month for numbers as the only talent to do so. I don't think this is a big loss.

>>48021373
I lost my pundit oshi and my Phase oshi with the space of two days. These are dark and trying times for me.

Good morning. Are we still crying over Yuri?

>>48021712
Why wouldn't she? She is not close with anybody in the company. She is un affected by all of this.

>>48020948
She commented on a tweet about the GFL animator video committing suicide

>>48021741
Yes and we will be for the next 2 weeks.

>>48021741
I just got back from work, this is the first chance I have to discuss this.

>>48021487
Another one to her list of crimes

SHE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT !!!

>>48021712
>cyber sakura live
>cyber live
>cyberlive
it was all there right in front of us...

>>48021693
He’s a Canadian chink, the last thing he has is businesses acuity.

>girl who barley likes streaming leaves
>Girls are going to have a bit of a sad on but it's nbd in the long run because they can still be friends on off the clock
>Only people making a big deal out of this are drama hounds, antis and people who are going to views phase or Yuri in a negative light no matter what they do

Corporations traditionally keep the rights or at least partial rights to a characters name/likeness in order to keep the person from using the company resources to build up an audience and then either running off to a competitor with it or suddenly break away to go independant to exclude the company's cut. Its also to protect company image and liability from being associated with the character if they run off and do shit with it as an independant that reflects badly on them.

Basically its to protect the company from getting taken advantage of by opportunists just looking to use the companies resources to boost themselves. Its not just a "fishman is being a big petty meanie".

>>48021650
>Wemi’s 1st Phase collab outside of Gentoo.
Not exactly, anon, but alright.

>>48021712
I want to cuddle the panda.

>>48021793
the worst will be over tomorrow
you can't loop too much without new info
the goodbye vid will extend discussion for another day maybe

>>48021940
>you can't loop too much without new info
bitch fucking try me

>>48021903
Don't bother. That guy just started his reasoning from "vtuber=good company=bad" and worked backwards from there. Logic won't work on such a person.

>>48021776
Fair. The only people affected by this are Lia, Lumi, Pippa, Uruka, Airi, 10ma and Rie. especially the first 3 names.

>>48021903
Companies are meant to be taken advantage of, they only exist for the benefit of actual people.

>>48021982
I will
the posts have slowed down already

>>48021940
It's never going to feel the same. Lepr has always been the silent 4th pillar of /pcg/.

>>48021903
which is why every corpo girl worth a damn runs a few alt streams to build up their personal brand by milking their corpo brand.

>>48021693
Yuri would not be able to take $4000 and run. Why? Because the money goes to Sakana, not her. She gets her money from Sakana, not the other way around.

Why's everyone acting like the company had huge losses?

>>48021492
michi just finished streaming mate

>>48022006
>benefit of actual people
Who?

>>48021712
Panko my beloved.

>>48022033
only to a newfag. Phase Connect remains phase connect so long as the 4 EN Gen1's are around. they are the heart and soul.

Yuris the lowest man on the totem pole ffs gen2 were hired before her.

https://puzzle.aggie.io/ua__l7

>>48022033
yeah but it pc will change with new gens as well
the old pcg has been dead for a while now

>>48021373
wtf, Tucker is biggest host in cable, unless he went on a mass shooting spree i cant imagine anything is worth loosing him over
then again fox is a neocon station and tucker clearly sticks out as the only right winger there, next to zionist shills like hannity he clearly ruins their narrative

>>48022046
It's a reputational blow more than anything

Pippa is such a little softy

>>48021373
I am more surprised to see that Stelter is alive.

this cat is fucked up bruh

>>48021903
I assume this is why Yuri had a name change

IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN PANKO

https://twitter.com/pipkinpippa/status/165049722122428006
who? what?

One of the talents better start crying on stream over this, I need woman tears.

>>48022139
Its over the dominion lawsuit settlement. People at fox who questioned the integrity of the ballot machines are getting the boot.

>>48021567
just fuck my shit up

>>48022270
the only ones that will be real are lia or uruka

>>48021903
So you're saying the only reason companies don't do the exact same thing with real life people is because they physically can't own the likeness of a real person.

You're not making the argument for why it should happen. You're making the argument that it's commonplace. Why SHOULD companies have this kind of power over fictional characters when they don't have this kind of power over real people? There's nothing stopping a real person from ruining their reputation, getting fired, and then getting a job somewhere else. You know what every other company does when that happens? They go "They don't work for us anymore and this person's behavior and/or values do not reflect the behavior and/or values of this company" and everybody fucking understands. Nobody gets confused. Why should it be different for a persona without any possibility of a discussion about whether it's right or not?

No. According to you it should be this way because precedent has been set. Like a fucking NPC you don't want to think about it.

>>48021921
I want to rape the little fatty

>>48022139
Mass shooting would be a cheaper settlement than what Fox has to pay now.

>>48022228
Panko is talented, Yuri is not, simple as.

>>48022242

>>48022228
Deal with it lmao

>>48021373
I knew this year would be hard after Amazon graduated Jeremy Clarkson. His shows are too expensive to produce and aren’t pulling enough numbers plus the yabs.

>>48022242
Deleted?

>>48022115
Yuri been here since her time in cyberlive.

>>48022228
It should have been (You)

>>48020209
Groomed me on discord and stole my innocence

Yuri losing all rights to her vtuber identity is proof that women should be constitutionally stripped off legal rights.

Link me her onlyfans when it's ready.

You fags are acting like Yuri didn't voluntarily sign all her stuff away, no one forced her you know. If she didn't like the PC terms she could have gone somewhere else.

>>48022228
I'm starting to think there's not even a real panko anti and it was all just a joke. This is too silly

>>48022436

Is it true Yuri is going to open an onlyfans? I would actually pay for it.

>>48022342
>>48022357
Nvm if she deleted it then I don't wanna show it

>>48022470
>48022436

>>48022315
Ok fine, I will look at atahuta art again

>>48022242
What was it?

>>48022418
sure, but there's a difference between doing it for, say, a $25 best buy gift card that she's required to pay back on termination, and doing it for, say, $25,000. people who feel that they can make a clear judgement about whether the agreement was exploitative don't seem to care at all what she got in return for it, and the question of whether it was exploitative hinges entirely on that.

>>48022309
Indies exists. Obviously people who join corpos see a benefit. It's a matter of supply and demand. Your argument is pointless.

>>48022487
>Rest in peace
>To a guy who killed himself
Stupid rabbit doesn’t understand how words work

>>48022418
If it's true that Phase Connect directly bought her assets from CyberLive then she was going to lose them eventually no matter what

>>48022524
No argument for why it should happen. Just another statement that it does happen. You're a fucking joke.

>>48022309

The fuck are you talking about? I outlined exactly why companies do it. Its to prevent opportunists and grifters from taking advantage of the company and a preventative measure against poaching. Its to protect the company from shitty employees.

>>48022557
she's a little confused but she got the spirit

>>48022580
Cyberlive never owned the assets. That was their entire shtick.

>>48022557
Notto dissu shittu again

>still no lumi schedule

>>48022557
What's the problem?

>>48022663
Someone put this thing out of its misery.

>>48022557
May he find peace in death that he couldnt in life.

>>48022663
she is going with her... I feel it in my Xalabussy

>>48021412
>>48021680

Here is my counterargument to your retarded logic
>Fish to fans
1. Fish runs a business, which provides enjoyment to the fans
2. He has monetary incentives to do so, and he seeks the opportunities to expand his business
3. Expanding the Vtubing business leads to more enjoyment for the fans
4. Therefore if business is hurt, long term possible fan enjoyment is hurt too

>Fish to talents
1. Fish runs a business in the entertainment-streaming sphere
2. He employs streamers, who provide back to the company, which leads to the company growth
3. In return streamers receive certain benefits
4. But in this sphere it is possible for fish to lose the negotiating power over time.
5. Therefore fish needs to implement certain mechanism and follow up on them to prevent the business from being hurt

>All together
Acting like a charity hurts the talent and the fans long term.
Being the good guy is not necessarily leads to more happiness in the future.

I want a big group collab from all the girls who are close to the situation where their air their grievances

>>48022289
what?
Tucker was anti Trump election narrative, he got a lot shit over it, and with leaked fox documents they ran 24/7 how he called Trump crazy for it
also the dominion settlement was what? 700mln? its pennies to a 15 billion$ a year network, literally fucking nothing, when they rating craters they will lose 2x that in just one year
still that dominion settlement was shady, dominion seeked 1 billion in damages, why settle and not run it through? especially since dominion was proved to have broken almost every election law there was, from chain of custody to lack of certification and being connected to the web

anyway, Yuri graduation fo PC is just as retarded, wtf was fishman thinking

>>48022663
she had some good streams recently
but I guess that at least for the next week it may be different

>>48022590
No, you're a fucking joke. It should happen because people involved agreed to it and it's all within the law. Both sides had equal standing before they agreed to it. Stop policing what people should do.

>>48022774
>wtf was yuri thinking
ftfy
she ruined the biggest opportunity of her life.

>>48022668
it seems like someone at girls frontline streamed his suicide

This is all because you didn't say how much you loved Yuri every thread.

>>48022752
but you dont understand fish does literally nothing but take money "employment" is a spook

>>48022608
Companies get away with it. You're not giving any explanation for why they should. I just outlined for you why the company hoarding a likeness it can't use again is not protecting it from anything. Every other company that hires people does not prevent people from being hired from any other company ever again unless they create a new identity. That would be intensely immoral and give an extreme amount of power over employees; allowing those employees to be exploited because they would lose everything if they don't endure the abuse.

Let me rephrase it so that you understand. The contracts are extremely disproportionate. There are countless ways for a company to protect themselves without needing to be vindictive or vengeful. There's no goodwill in hamstringing someone's ability to succeed in the future. The damage you purport to the company's reputation is marginal at worst because as I've explained other companies handle it just fine. But for some reason you think Vtuber companies are made of glass and they are absolutely incapable of saying "They don't work for us anymore". Give me a fucking break. You're advocating for unfair contracts for no discernible or defend-able reason.

Will somebody recommend me a chuuba that's streaming right now to make me stop feeling hurt?

>>48022309
Are you really unable to understand why a company would want to own the copyright of the things they commission art and prodcue merchandise for?
I can't even imagine the contractual nightmare that would unfold when a vtuber would sell their likeness to company X while being employed at company Z.

desu Lia and Yuri felt like they were drifting apart in recent months. Mostly started to happen when Miia because more present.

>>48022628
No. The ownership was transferred "when the contract is finished" as said by Hylo. What exactly it means is for interpretation, but its clear that as long as they were part of CL, the model belonged to CL.

>>48022868
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFBhyltGMgA

>>48022329
you joking?
750milion is less than 5% of Fox yearly revenue, they make that much in 2 weeks, its nothing compared to losing biggest name in cable in half a decade

>>48022868
https://www.twitch.tv/tororo_vtuber

thread's current stage of grief?

>>48021903
It's called CORRUPTION.

>>48022668
New problems always replace old problems. The ride never ends.
Telling a self-killer to rest in peace is a faux pas because wherever he is, well that’s a place of anguish.
This wasn’t a ceremonial euthanization ceremony either where a different person kills him. It was him, himself.
The idea that a person can escape from their problems by suicide or changing gender is naive. The problems remain, change or become bigger.

>>48022889
*became more present

>>48022866
"likeness" is only applicable to a natural person. you mean "design", subject to trademark, along with specific works (vtuber models) based on that design, subject to copyright.

>>48022868
https://www.twitch.tv/overwatchcontenders

>>48022752
>5. Therefore fish needs to implement certain mechanism and follow up on them to prevent the business from being hurt
This is where you're failing to explain why a scorched earth level of control over the talent's career is the only reasonable way to protect his company.

>>48022868
https://www.twitch.tv/anny

>>48022810
Not an argument for why it should happen. Only a statement that it does happen. You're the one trying to police what people do by discouraging even the conversation about alternatives that don't fall 100% in the company's favor.

Was the discord groomer cock worth it all

>>48022943
Just say you're some SEA Muslim and think he's in hell and be done with it.

>>48022868
https://www.twitch.tv/vienna

>>48022668
People who commit suicide are basically troons.
They think changing their gender/lifestyle from male to female or living to dead will solve their problems. It doesn’t. The problems get worse.

>>48022931
debate club

>>48022889
i kinda noticed this too. they were super close and vibing from july until december/january.
i don't know if it was miia who was a bad influence on yuri, or rather yuri failed to get lia involved with the cl groom crew and then yuri moved to miia,

>fails to hire Lisa
>fails to hire Zaion
>terminates Yuri
Phase is falling through where it counts

>>48022868
https://www.twitch.tv/squchan

>Yuri terminated
>Lumi graduated
>Pippa dead
Phase Connect bros...

Let's be honest here for a minute.
It was clear such a small indie company can't bloat so quick with 7 new members to upkeep monthly and pay for the staff and expenses.
Fishman was gonna have to start culling the heard, starting with the weakest and least profitable.

>>48023039
You have been brain damaged by the internet.

>>48022955
Something that can change ownership. Not guaranteed to always controlled by the company.

>>48023016
You're not even reading what I wrote.

>>48023033
You sound butthurt over your circumcision.
Maybe go to the doctor and cut your dick off all the way and become woman like you dream of being.

>>48022883
The argument he's making is that fans should be giving the companies shit for it in a way that makes them not want to do this.

lot of midwits writing a lot of words that don't make any sense
maybe if you spent half as much time reading a book as you do trying to pretend to know what you're talking about on an anonymous imageboard you'd have done something with your life, but alas

>>48023094
Yuri was terminated for breaking her contract, it has nothing to do with culling the heard.

>>48023094
>7 new members
Dumb tourist

>>48023094
>starting with the weakest and least profitable.
Michiru and Nasa are still around

>>48023039
What is this fucked logic

Someone should make an edit of this gif with Sakana's face over Rafiki and Simba being replaced with yuri.

it's difficult for panko to stream with all the sad news. she should take a rest