/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

It says COVER

zhangbros we won!
https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=27125512

vei was right

Welp time to drop this shit company 3 years was a good run better than unlimited and Dotlive

774 IS LOOKING REAL GOOD NOW MAYBE EVEN VSHOJO fucking YAGOO piece of shit

>>4811616
feels good being an indiechad

>>4812230
Fuck that. I ain't going near VShitshow.

Sticking to indies.

>>4811616
>cover
do you really?

>>4812230
>even thinking of supporting the SJW fucks at vshoujo

Fuck China.
Fuck Cover.
God Bless America.

China's bitch.

So they decide it's time to come back to suck Zhang's dick?

>>4812559
Fuck off at least they aren't liking China's boots and Xi's asshole, they aren't bending the knee to commies and can say Taiwan all they want

>>4811616
it was a mistake

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>>4813385
Vshoujo are the kind of girls who will call you racist for saying Covid was from China while posting BLM shit.

>>4813512
seeding westerner cannot match china might

>>4813385
>implying

>>4811616
Good talents, terrible fucking management
Worse than Niji by a longshot.

YOU SHOULD HAVE HIRED BETTER MODS OR BOTS TO DEAL WITH THE ZHANGS YOU FUCK, COCO WASN'T AS STRONG AS WE THOUGHT

>>4811616
I will suck chang dick from now on. They actually managed to win.

>>4811616
lost to fucking bugs...

>>4812230
what no, support nijien. Why would you support vshitshow?

Veibei, I fucking kneel

It's over

Fuck Cover, Fuck Hololive

>>4812230
Welcome to Nijisanji EN. It's 3 amazing, close friends chilling with each other and having fun.

>>4813615
I'll fucking kill you and feed you to my dog you bugman shitbag.

They posted the announcement in simplified Chinese...
https://cover-corp.com/news/

>>4814185
I kneel zhang

chinese occupied territory

>>4814185
so hololive cn revival?

>>4814185
I can't believe they actually won.

>>4811616
Cover gouged the talent, treated them like shit, didn't give them tech support, and left them in the dark for anti's to berate and raid them. Garbage company that deserves to burn to the ground, although they did do good with middle-manning merch shit. Coco will land on her feet, if anyone were to leave i'm glad its her since her other stuff was growing very well as a safety net.

>>4814185
lmao, so EOPs don't give much money after all, I wonder how much meltdown EOP faggots have over this kek

>>4811616
should have stayed as a VR Tech company

>>4811616
They are so good. they manage diverted any outrage to feel sorry for coco. I dont how they did but it was good move. I was some EOP fag to start spam shitstorm but nothing happen.

Let's not be stupid. Coco has been active on her Roomate for months now. She is streaming regularly on mildom as well. If anyone can transition well, it's Coco. The amount of content that she is unable to do anymore that made her successful in the beginning is probably the reason too. Things just got more corporate.

>>4811616
They didn't protect Mel from a fucking stalker who WORKED FOR THEM.
They didn't protect Aloe from the antis.
They didn't protect Coco from the chinks.
They are painfully disorganized.
The talent has to organize all covers, shows, and original music by themselves and PAY OUT OF THEIR POCKET
What the FUCK does Cover even do? They're fucking incompetent parasites, only in the position they are because they lucked out then bought all good talent from NND. That's fucking it.

>>4811616
The golden age is over
The bubble is popping

>>4811616
No longer supporting them. Maybe I'll be watching clips here and there but no more.

If Chink money matters more to them than the free world, I'm gone.

It would be funny if she joins Vshoujo or Niji afterward

>>4815617
her roommate can't collaborate with holo.

I was getting into the nijisan EN girls anyway...

>>4815680
It kept me entertained through the pandemic, but I guess reality had to come back eventually

I wanna laugh at all the putrid fucking shitposters for posting mostly fake garbage about nijiniggers when holofags got something 100x worse

>>4815766
If she does anything she makes her own company up.

>>4815971
Honestly i kinda feel like in the distant (or not so distant) future after everyone graduates, rewatching the archives will be pretty comfy and nostalgic

>>4815680
No more Pekora in top female streamers
No more Coco record setting super chats

Fuck China. I hate how they can impose their bullshit on everyone else like the NBA and Kpop and Vtubers but we can't do the same to them. Embargo their fucking oil you useless UN.

>>4811616
Coco was frustrated with management , she had 10 collabs planned and somehow out of nowhere she's graduating. She's done with Cover. Ungrateful bitch though.

>>4815625
this
sucks when you criticize these actions though you get called a chink shill
the reason i stopped watching hololive as much was because the company dropping the ball back to back like i can't support the girls as much as i want to

Gonna be real pissed off when holo en 2 is announced the day after her final live and people suddenly forgive cover and lick their feet instead.

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>>4815779
They can as their own roommates. Astel, Roberu, Shien does that a lot with that dude that left.
>>4815766
She's already famous as her roomate

>>4816504
Holostars has more freedom

>>4816307
What do you mean ungrateful. She's probably doing those collabs because she is leaving. Cover was probably the last people to know. Coco was still on all their brand deals including holoalt.

>>4816464
>Holo EN 2 is announced
>One of the new girls is Coco Kaine

>>4816589
Don't be stupid. Polka does a lot as her roommate. So is Azki and Matsuri, Mel, Choco and Noel. Only Coco has gathered average consistent success on her roommate because she's been streaming on it almost everyday for the past few months. I wonder why

>>4811616
Curiously they posted coco's graduation news in chinese on their own website.
hmm.

https://youtu.be/t3T57HYEvV4

>>4811616
basically a sweatshop

>>4811616
Black company. Fucbuki is next. Also, I'm done with Vtubers. Time to go back to listening to podcast while I do literally anything on my PC. God I hate chinks.

>>4816660
Ungrateful to her fans who supported her, she should have stayed and endured everything, but she didn't because she has enough money to retire.

In the end China won...

>>4816965
same here

>>4813615
Chink faggot can't even speak English properly. Why don't you give your good old suicide nets a visit?

My rrat is Cover's "new rules" really stunted Coco's creative freedom, and she's had enough. She's not allowed to do Asacoco anymore, which was the thing she was known for.

Haato is next.

Coco should make a bunch of Taiwan and Pooh jokes in the coming month, she's already graduating

>>4816914
this unironically. you can actually become a certified internet personality in japan now. completely commodified and inorganic.

>>4811616
IF THEY START PANDERING TO CHINA
KILL EM ALL

>>4813758
Fuck no, they have a China branch retard

>>4816983
She already had that semibreak where she didn't know what to stream anymore. Honestly, just let her be. I think she will be able to do stuff on her own if she answers to nobody. She has the money to do so anyways. All the people that will transfer over to her roommate are just the same people.

>>4812559
fuck off
thinking dabbing on pedo's is SJW is nigger shit

What was the point of nuking HoloCN if they were just going to go back to to sucking bug cock anyway?

It occurs to me that the EOPs, who already can't follow rules in the first place, are going to be ballistic over the next week or two.

>>4816983
If her "fans" are so fickle to not follow her or even be happy for her going where she isn't sacrificing her own happiness then she should be glad to rid herself of them. Cover is garbage and would've thrown her to the wolves if that route was ultimately deemed more financially beneficial.

>>4814908
did they though? I bought some merch from them and it was cheap dogshit

>>4811616
Even their name says it right. C. Over. See, it's over. It's all pointless. There no point in any of this.

>>4817287
They can't pander to China because they have HoloEN. Majority of them hates EN. They are pushing forward with their expansion in the US. It is more likely Coco can't do her own shit creatively anymore. Probably all the criticisms she got from the reddit review. Everything has to be reviewed.

>>4817438
western markets doesn't make as much money. yes en is successful but it's not enough.

>>4816880
If you are not joking, this makes me fucking seethe.

>>4812175
What did she say i don't watch vshojo

>>4811616
This is karma holoshits for constantly mocking Nijisanji, Vshojo and everyone else.
Now everyone will start to see the shitty company they are.

>>4816464
>this is all some elaborate joke and coco is actually leaving hololive to join hololiveEN2

>>4817562
Well, not particularly. But at least they were fairly active in getting a variety of shit manufactured. At least last time I checked many months ago.

>>4811616
lot of knee jerk reactions here without enough info

>>4817645
Don't be stupid. They were making pennies in CN. All of their EN talents are more successful by tenfolds

you retards really think it's Cover's fault after everything they lose to keep Coco in the company?

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No exposure of sensitive parts or enticing audience focus on sensitive parts, clothing or items, incl. but not lim. to suggestions of sexual organs, mentions of underwear, removing pantyhose, etc
> 不得存在任何其他违反公序良俗的“动态预设动作”的元素和设计方案。
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No malicious pranks, ill taste, or intentional denigration or mockery of others in elements of design.
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> 禁止使用违法、暴力惊悚、色情低俗、广告营销等元素;
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No elements that violate other Chinese law and bilibili platform rules

>>4817438
they gamble on EN market but it din't bring much money and sponsor so they come back to Xi's cock

>>4817775
dude she literally uploaded on announcement to her channel. it's over

>>4815680
Crypto crashing and now holo

>>4817656
He's not.

>>4817844
Yes, it's their fault for not fully supporting her in the first place.

>>4811616
It's shorthand for China Lover

>>4817737
literally made in china scratchy korone pillow. cheapest shit they can possibly hack out in all areas.
the girls even supported and endorsed the shitty merch too, fully knowing how over priced it is. company full of scammers including the girls. except coco and aloe.

>>4817902
They have already gotten back any loss they incurred from EN and more. CN was not making that much money to begin with.

>>4817249
Start a taiwanese vtubing company.

>>4811616
Tencent is investing

>>4814185
Is this normal for Cover announcements?

>>4817416
Nyanners is a full blown SJW, even putting the loli shit aside.

>>4817709
How fucking dare you give me a shred of hope

>>4818022
hahaha

So is Haato going to be retiring too? After all she's the one that started it

>>4817971
Fucking cunts. I hate cover so much.
Hurr Coco left by herself on amicable terms durr, i fucking hate it. What a way to start the day.

>>4817838
Their CN branch fail but their JP branch was booming in china.

>>4818070
The chinese money comes from merch, sponsor and concert, before the chink drama, they have a lots of that on chink site

>>4818346
The worst part? It's her birthday.

Don't trust any japanese "decided to leave on their own" statement. Japanese companies don't fire. What they do is make your working life as hellish as possible until you quit.

>>4816885
What's the TL;DR? Fucker bullshits a lot but anything's better than nothing

*talents got a problem

cover: pack your bag, u have one week before graduate
*wash em hand

fck cover

YouTube needs to block Chinese IPs

>>4818035
Shit, the only thing I thought they did at the very least serviceably.

>>4818567
Don't Chinese IPs already block Youtube? Feel like I read somewhere that they have to VPN just to access it.

>>4818496
yea make sense now, how yesterday was her birthday too, rudee,

>>4811616
> Fire the one talent that allowed them the english market over chink spam.
> Keep the ticking time bombs that are Kiara and Mori.

Cover is just plain business retarded.

>>4818943
Morii is definitely quitting to go back to her rap once her contract is up

LETS FUCK YAGOO LETS FUCK YAGOO TOGETHER

>>4817452
You will never be Japanese

>>4819057
Mori's rap never took off. She knows this is the best she'll get.

Honestly guys, trust the talents. Fubuki have already said that she will only leave Cover if they do something immoral. Fubuki already knew about Coco leaving. Every HoloJP talent seems to already know about her leaving. If Fubuki leaves, that is when you pack up your bags.

>>4818193
Nyanners is SJW? What the fuck happened?

>>4815625
It's a fuck black company but YAGOO LOVE.

>Haato hasn't tweeted in around 2 days
Is she graduating too?

>>4819442
Yeah she went SJW years back and threw 4chan and that whole 'culture' under the bus

>>4819367
damage control

>>4818156
No so either they really are bowing down to Zhang's or Cover has a rrat running loose in the offices.

>>4818499
His take is that Cover "harassed" her into quitting through petty bullshit like stopping all her collabs with EN, purposefully not inviting her to official collabs, didn't do anything about her chat, didn't announce her 1mil sub milestone until fans complained, didn't let her have any appearances in Hologra after the incident.

His source is an "insider" again, but realistically the only thing he has for his validity is that the video was uploaded as a premiere during the graduation announcement, meaning he somehow knew ahead of time that she was going to graduate.

>>4819367
Fubuki is a bootlicker

>>4811616
>reddit says cover tried to get her to stay but she wants to quit
>WTF FUCK COVER

>>4819367
As far as I can tell, Cover has done several moves to appease to Coco by literally granting all collab permissions. HoloAlt, Brand deals and stuff. Even her chat is fixed already. The only issue is that their content policy are far more restrictive than it was before. All the things that made her famous like asacoco and reddit are not possible anymore with the current policies. Reddit review has poor jokes because it has to be pre-approved. Just let her be Kson so that she can be her creative self again. You must already know from the back of your heads when she opened her membership there that she might be thinking of leaving. She's a great planner afterall

>>4817376
That's Bilibili owned they just gave them the live2d shit lol

>>4819457
Reminder that this is Haato's image of Cover.
https://youtu.be/MdLvuLaoWvs?t=511

>>4819457
wouldn't be surprised, those past two months have been quite odd

>>4819707
>>4819599
Fubuki rose up because she does what she wants even collabing with Holostars. Don't fucking talk shit about Fubuki

>>4819367
Fubuki is not going to rock the boat and ruin a stable thing for herself, especially as one of Cover's eyes on the ground. She's all talk.

>>4819938
Don't fucking talk up your ass. She's one the firsts that backed out of CN. She still collabs with Holostars. She's one the firsts that featured Coco again on her channel.

>>4813527
Trump lost faggot

>>4819901
Lemme repeat. FUBUKI IS A BOOTLICKER

>>4820128
Seriously these rrats aren't even TRYING.

>>4814993
no shit most EOPs are literally underage.

>>4811616
I would be dumbfounded if R*ddit keeps worshipping this faggot after today.

>>4819695
>His take is that Cover "harassed" her into quitting through petty bullshit like stopping all her collabs with EN, purposefully not inviting her to official collabs, didn't do anything about her chat, didn't announce her 1mil sub milestone until fans complained, didn't let her have any appearances in Hologra after the incident.
That's how jap companies encourage you to quit, you realize?

>>4818758
yeah, chinks cant access Youtube without VPN
or Facebook, or twitter, or google, or wikipedia or... actually I think they can't access to anything not made by chink

>>4819740
> Cover has done several moves to appease to Coco by literally granting all collab permissions

Or like the jp rrat channel said, Cover grants collab permission because coco has decided to graduate.

>>4819136
She's definitely dumb enough to think she can make it on her own and this cringe vtubing shit is just a phase.

But this thread isn't about that cunt, so please let's not talk about her.

>>4811616
Fire all Chinese in the company.

>>4820633
She has been collabing with them for several months now. Holoalt was a thing since last year. Do you really think they want to fucking feature someone who they have to remove afterwards???

>>4819367
No. Already have my foot halfway out the door. Haato goes next? Bye bye. (Sorry Aki..)

>>4815625
>They didn't protect Mel from a fucking stalker who WORKED FOR THEM.
They didn't know about the stalker because his position allowed him to cover up his actions and stymie attempts for Mel to do anything through the company.

>They didn't protect Aloe from the antis.
Aloe was going to come back until Kusodad flipped out and punched a hole in her wall because Nijiniggers leaked her address and home phone number and wouldn't stop harassing them.

>>4811616
I stopped trusting them after the copyright/permissions scandal.
All those fucking lost VODs, even with collabs from outside the company. Just fucking disrespectful. And apparently the streamer had to check the vids themselves to see if they're okay. What the fuck is the point of management even being there?

I'm more fucking surprised that such a huge number of people stuck with them after that.

>>4812230
>>4812175
>>4813385
>>4813527
Good, go watch your cuck streamers who talk about sucking cock and drinking cum. Hopefully, all you faggots leave and Vshojo + eceleb faggots finally fuck off.

>>4820573
Did I say otherwise?

>>4819535
Well, I hope she fails (she will).

Her other memberships must have done pretty well.

>>4811616
COVER HATE

>>4820930
They didn't do anything for a while even after they found out he was an employee.

>Nijiniggers
Rent free

>>4820493
/vt/ itself will be sucking Yagoo's cock and calling anyone who doesn't a chink anti in a couple of days.

>>4816504

As whose roommate?

>>4811616
If they do any chinese-related partnerships after Coco is gone, I'm done with them. If not, then it really was Coco's decision and things will continue as is.

>>4820784
The story is that coco decided to graduate after cover put the bot into the mod list, which is before all the collabs.

The only reason I will not watch cover anymore is if they open another HoloCN which is a dumb rrat because they have HoloEN. Those fuckers hate holoEN. All of the harrasers will literally go to all HoloEN now. Do you guys realize that??

>>4814993
>so EOPs don't give much money after all,
They sure as fuck give more money than the chinese ever did. All of Hololive has literally tripled in size since the Taiwan thing happened.

>>4821157
let them come.

>>4819695
>He knew ahead of time
I guess he does have some legit Cover source compared to his bullshit at best Niji ones. If that shit is true it's even worse than I thought

>>4811616
When EN Gen 2?

Speaking of which them coming out soon is probably gonna hit them hard. But idk I feel like that’s gonna be pushed back even more now.

>>4816880
Do they post every other announcement in all languages?

>>4818473
They already made a statement before holoEN started taking off that while they had thought the money would be rolling in from overseas investments, it wasn't. At the time, only HoloCN had enough time to gather enough potential for extra income, but obviously it wasn't anywhere near what they were hoping for (i.e. not as good as what they got from japanese sponsorships)

The definition of entertainment industry, everyone is replaceable, nothing is sacred. I'm a fucking boomer, but I know that for a lot of people here this is their first ride on this industry. This shit happens always, money talks, fuck your happiness, enjoy what you love while it lasts. But never get too attached.
Also remember to always archive.

>>4819707
Fubuki was the only one to shit on Cover when the video Thanos snap happened

>>4820493
Nigga they were sucking Yagoo's cock a week after the chink incident.

>>4821356
no
not chinese

>>4821293
Seriously, if those zhangs think that Coco was something they did, they will fucking do the same to all of the HoloEN they hate. Like Ame, Mori and Kiara

>>4820941
>point out vshoujo sucks
>lump me in with vshoujo fans
Why you gotta fuck me like that, man?

They're on extremely thin ice right now. Announcing her graduation in simplified chinese is one straw short of breaking the camel's back for me.

>>4817871
This is what makes me believe the most that Cover didn't fire Coco. They would have to do a massive retool of their entire operations in order to abide by chinese guidelines.

>>4821497
The sad part is they did. They succeeded because Cover was weak.

Now they have no reason not to keep doing it. This is why you never appease.

>>4820941
>cuck
The only cuckholding being done is China x Cover and you on the side watching your favorite streamers take bug dick until they graduate.

>>4819707
Nah, she's a thinker. It's the kind of idol you see reaching her graduation only to open her own company the next day.
Knows what the people want, can improvise and is able to have an influence on several decisions. I mean, just look at gamers.

>>4821609
where?

>>4821426
Coco is leaving in good terms with everyone. Everyone knows including Cover that this is not going to look good but they still let her go. And if you guys don't fucking realize... they have been making millions of dollars after leaving CN. Milliions because of the business strats they did. Coco has probably been asked to stay for numerous times but still left regardless. She already said herself before that she can't do the same content like before. That she was out of ideas. She is far more happier when streaming as her roommater nowadays anyways. Let her be happy you fucking scroundrels.

>>4811616
Regardless of whether this was actually Coco's decision or Cover actually pushed her out, the Chinks have forever stained Cover.

>>4812230

I'm never a holofag but this is a problem bigger than Hololive/Cover and Vtubing itself: it's about the entertainment industry and China. Not only do they have massive monetary leverages, but harassments from their side will not be held accountable. Realistically, other vtuber companies should pull out of China before they eventually get on some Chinese antis' crosshair.

Aqua, Shion and Haachama are next. rrats will overflow and soon even the biggest normaltard EOPs will be against Cover and stop giving them money. Cover will either lose a bunch of talents and/or kneel to chink money. It's finished. I just want to jump ship now and never look back

>>4821888
the only problem is she said she can't go into the details of why she's leaving, and I trust cover as much as an unleashed pitbull in a daycare

>>4819367
Fubuki's a fucking shill. She and Marine aren't going anywhere.

>>4821612
anon that's for bilibili
their chinese talents will follow that not JP or EN

>>4822033
That's what happens when only one side is expected to play by the rules. There's no winning in fair competition.

>>4811616
If Holo CH actually becomes a thing again im fucking dropping my support wont stop watching my oshi but Coco was the reason i got into this shithole

>>4821609
Honestly, whoever thought it was a good idea to post it in Chinese should be fucking fired. Not a Coco-stan, but that shit is legit retarded from a PR standpoint. People are emotional right now and you put that shit up?

>>4815625
I like the part where Ame basically had to set up all of HoloEN by herself because none of them knew how to set up the vtuber avatars except for her.

>>4819810
Holy fuck, after that hidden Coco's message from some months ago and now this, everything makes sense. Life has a new meaning.

>>4822066
No matter what she says, Cover or her will look bad. They will all sound like excuses. She can't just say, I want to just stream as my roommate teehee. Or that cover's rule are too strict for her now. If anything, I blame all of you for making cover too popular that they have to be so damn strict in regulating content on YT

>>4821443
this time it was the Reddit dragon herself, nigger.

>>4822325
Wasn't Gura a vtuber before this? She didn't know how? Or is Cover's technology for their app a pain in the ass to use?

>>4822497
I thought sen was a pngtuber, either way she only streamed about 4 times a year between meme videos

>>4821497
They have been spamming Ina's chat since last week.

Company with the same Japanese practices of having absolutely no balls to ever protect their own employees. Neutered fucking Japs.

It's just so tiring. I don't think I can even muster up the hate for Cover or anyone right now, just empty.
All I know is that the next time war against chink happens, I'm re-enlisting.

>>4822497
Gura is not smert sherk.

Firing Coco only emboldens the bugs, it doesn't calm them down. Coco is hurting the company by leaving if she's leaving by her own choice.

Also I don't trust Fubuki. I just don't.

>>4820493
Nigger who do you think owns Reddit?

>>4822656
Agree completely. Fubuki setting herself up as the final authority on whether or not Hololive is a reputable company is one of the shadiest things I've ever seen a person do. You don't establish yourself in such a ridiculous position of power out of goodwill.

>>4822325
Thats bullshit what do you take gura for?

>>4811616
Nijisanji is back on top
VShojo will take over the west

Just as planned

Unsubbing from every hololive channel. Fuck China, fuck cover for treating their talent like shit to appease a bunch of shit eating bugs.

It's been a fun ride bros but this is it. See ya.

>>4822033
It's way to late for that i'm sure with some digging we'd find that all the top 10 companies have had some kind of dealing with China.

>>4822656
The Chinese antis were already emboldened when Cover failed to do anything bootlicker

>>4822617
>>4822633
There's nothing Cover can do if the Chinese authorities take no action against their antis. If harassers are in Japan, or the US, they can take legal action by working with their law enforcement agencies. But the Chinese will not budge or do anything especially since they think the antis are working for their cause.

>>4822656
>Also I don't trust Fubuki. I just don't.
Same. It's clear from this post >>4815625 that Cover is an incompetent company, and that's not even the full list of fuck ups from them either, there's a whole copypasta about it.

>>4811616
Black company.

>>4817871
>No intentionally exposing hand,
Wait
You can't show hands on your fucking vtuber avatar

>>4822830
I hope we’re hearing Fubuki graduate because Cover has been shit

>>4821612
>>4822099
Coco wasn't on bilibili. If your oshi wants to keep her platform, she'll follow the new fucking rules.

>>4823214
The devil comes with open arms and a smile, promising you that you can trust them.

>>4822851
a pngtuber

>>4823271
You seem to not have understood the point of my post.

>>4823271
If Haato doesn't say anything in the next day or so then I can guarantee you she's retiring. Did she show up in Holoalt at all? Or any of the hologras?

>>4823331
the coco incident is due to Taiwan anon
chinks has to use VPN to to to youtube only to shit on her, that's not their main platform

>>4811616
China money tooo guuuud

>>4823536

Western money better. It's been proven. China is shit.

>>4819367
Isn't she getting Oga in a lot of trouble since people are jealous that they have been collabing a lot?
She totally wants his dick, but he looks troubled by it.

I HATE THE CCP I HATE THE CCP

Kson is going to play nkodice. Same game no holo can play. This pretty much tells you she is just fed up with the restrictions

>>4822099
>anon that's for bilibili
Before the taiwan thing, most of hololive also had a bilibili account. Any amount of reconnecting with the chinese audience will have to involve bilibili in some way.

Cover gets the rope, simple as

>>4814993
The vast majority of EOPs are either too young or just the "le rabbithole xDDD" casuals that dont know shit about hololive vtubers in general and are disgusted by stuff like "idol culture" or buying tons of merch/sending akasupas to an anime girl. Its the cold hard truth, what you see donated through SCs in recent hololive streams, especially in EN, is nothing compared to chinks and their spending habits

>>4823673
Isn't Fubuki married in real life or something

>>4823264
Yeah, not any more...

>>4822830
It always felt like a power play more than anything. It's cynical, to an upsetting degree. It never passed the smell test for me but shitting on friend became a no no.

>>4811616
Fuck em, graduations shouldn't go like this, i still remember what they did to Artia,Aloe

>>4824116
>inb4 fubuki joins coco's new company and brings hololive gamers with her

>>4811616
My rrat is that Aqua (either herself, her manager, or someone in power who likes Aqua) caused Coco to graduate. Aqua has been suffering due to antis and I don't think it's a coincidence that she came back recently. So it became a "Aqua or Coco" situation. Since Aqua can do idol things they chose her. Aqua being a chink favorite probably was icing on the cake. Remember, when the chinks were banding around Aqua and making her their rallying cry, she did nothing (unlike Fubuki). She also said nothing in support for Coco during the Taiwan incident.

>>4821758
Ah yes, cause Hololive totally collabs with the Chinks unlike e-celeb faggots like Connor. Fuck off cuckberg, just cause your oshii gets wet at the thought of Connor doesn't mean I have to support that shit.

>>4821804
Fubuki becoming the Rinahamu of VTubing would be pretty based. Hopefully she scames a major contract like Rinahamu did as well.

>>4811751
Is their website literally called nga???

>>4824116
Exactly. That one statement made her untouchable from both a business and entertainment perspective. There is no reason to make that specific statement unless she was actively planning on using it later to her advantage.

>>4821804
>Thinker
Schemer.

>>4824116
You are naive if you think that FBK isn't a company man

>>4824116
Did that come before or after the Coco thing happened? Because if it was after it could 100% be a case of Cover using the most trusted member of Hololive to deliver a goodwill message.

I guess we'll have to see though.

>>4811616
They finally gave me a reason to fully drop Hololive and focus only on indies and Animare

>>4825611
Animare?

>>4825293
She sounds like the executive that tries to make us think the corporation is fun and good. Anyone asking you to trust them has something up their sleeve.

>>4825569
No company would ever intentionally give a talent that much power. Fubuki formed an unironic cult around her when she said that, something that no executive would ever want in any situation.

>>4823913
yeah, that's right anon! married people are always loyal!

;-;

>>4821077
Coco's roommate has significant following on youtube

>>4825844
It helped her own brand a lot and helps Cover as long as she's happy. The only problem are people who think even making such statements makes you the least trustworthy person in the room.

>>4826386
If someone goes out of their way to make a grand statement about how much you can trust them, that's a huge red flag. What kind of insanely sheltered life do you live, my man?

>>4811616
It would be great if they also forced graduate Nene. Good riddance.

>>4826705
It smelled funny to me and I have brought it up but most people on here bought the line based off of her saying fuck the bugs. I think the real story is the Chinese were getting to big for their britches for her taste and weren't as profitable as she would have liked.

>>4811616
COVER HATE

>>4811616
genocide

>>4811677
Hmmm I think your on to something anon

>>4811616
FUCK COVER CORP
FUCK YAGOO
FUCK HOLOLIVE
AND MOST IMPORTANTLY FUCK CHINA

I kneel, Veibeya

>>4826815
shoot yourself in the head with two bullets

>>4823469
Haato's been in several hologra since the taiwan incident, she mostly skated by after the suspension except for one or two really dedicated zhangs

This is the way I see things behind the scenes.

>>4811616
Pieces of shit, I hope they choke on tiny chink's dicks.

>>4811616
Burn every chink loving corporation to the ground

>>4814142
I'll fuck you like I fucked coco

>>4825844
>FBK is a loyal company girl
>she's already the face of Hololive in Japan anyway
>people love her and trust her and she's not going to get out of line or stab us in the back
>"Oi! Fubuki-chan! We want you to relay a message..."

>>4818567
Anon, you're retarded. Kikes love China.

>>4811616
Pretty incompetent.
Remember when Coco tried to get some mods to moderate her chat and Cover denied it?

>Coco: can you moderate chat?
>Cover: you do it
>Coco: can I mod some fans to moderate?
>Cover: No
>Coco: Can I pay someone to moderate the chat?
>Cover: No
>Coco: Then can you block these accounts?
>Cover: Ok

>Cover: Ooops I accidentally modded all those accounts
>Antis proceed to block everyone
>Coco Fans: why am I blocked
>Cover: Contact us if you've been banned
>Antis get unbanned too

It's just pure comedy

>>4828358
Incompetent? That's not incompetence. That's pure malice.

What's the plan? Boycott supers? Mass complaints straight to COVER? I am hoping all the Holo girls unite a front to get COVER's shit together. Justice for Mel. Aloe. Kaichou. Everyone.
We must not back down against the bugmenace.

>>4828596
Also July 1st is Chinese Communist Party Founding Day

It's as if Cover wants Coco to leave so they can leech off of China again.

>>4827947
Interesting list. I mostly agree, though I don't know all the holos that well.

>>4829058
it's not you dumb nigger, why do you believe everything /vt/ posted? a simple google search will tell you otherwise

>>4828821
hold for now, cover is always suspicious but until they start picking up china-related streaming rights and sponsorships again there's no proof whether the graduation was voluntary or not. If they start playing genshin and streaming on BB again it's riot time

Why didn't we listen?

>>4816464
You can bet cover is fasttracking holoen2 in order to drive nijien into the ground. Unless the rrats about cover going back to sucking zhang cock are real...

>>4829648
https://anydayguide.com/calendar/1485
http://www.chinatoday.com/org/cpc/
Okay

>>4821426
Sora was pissed as well
Mio also sounded like a disappointed mother when the Nintendo thing happened

>>4822248
Everything Cover has done involving Coco has been a deliberate failure in managing PR.

>>4817871
>No intentionally exposing hand, waist, feet and other sensitive parts
>Female streamer avatar back exposure shall not expose more than 2/3 of the upper back, above the waist line
>No elements that violate other Chinese law and bilibili platform rules

I will not allow this FBK slander to perpetuate in this thread. She jumped head first into publicly talking to Coco after the Taiwan thing, losing literally 50% of her income in the process, and she didn't even bat an eye. There's no way she would sell Coco out now when she stood by her when it was most difficult.

If FBK stays, then Cover isn't black yet.

>>4816464
The best scenario would be Coco herself announcing EN2 (or vsingers) right at the end of her final stream. It would make for a great passing of the torch moment and help bridge the gap from the Coco-era to the post-Coco-era.

>>4821758
>>4824524
I want BOTH, Choina AND the US of A, to get the fuck out of my japanese hobby. I will never be japanese, I don't want to, but it was the last self-contained country on earth, now everything they make money with gets co-opted by the retards playing war games.

People will forget about this just like they always do when it comes to Cover. Literally """accidentally""" appointing bugmen as her mods is unforgivable but nobody even bothers to remember that incident. But that's just how Cover dicksuckers are, they put Blizzdrones and iToddlers to shame.

>>4824524
t.chang

>>4817709
this will be the new "Aloe is coming back guys, 2 more weeks" cope and I'll believe in it.

>>4818122
yoghurt...

>>4811616
they fucked up harder than Kadokawa did with Kemono Friends

>>4831724
It's the only positive reason she wouldn't be allowed to discuss her reasons for graduation, we have to hold on

>>4823264
>>4824111
well that's a simple sign cover is NOT kneeling to china and coco just leaves to enjoy her new-found creative freedom

>>4831724
>>4817709
Please fucking let it be real. I want to believe she will be back. That she will be able to continue having fun with her friends. I'll support her wherever she goes but I can't accept a Hololive without her.

>>4831372
Incredibly based. I still miss anime being something that only 10-15 people in schools/colleges etc watched. As soon as it got large outwards exposure, gross politics came into it and then came the normalfags, cementing said politics and ruining the medium. Same thing here with vtubers, so bloody annoying. You can't have anything nice in this world, and no level of gatekeeping will ever be enough to protect what you hold dear. Whether it be American or Chinese, this stuff needs to stop. But of course, it won't.

>>4824613
isn't rinahamu chicken out of BiS since she was too pussy and wanted to be a "traditional" idol?

not based to me

>>4820219
No he didn't

Bitch

>>4822830
What’s this about fubuki? Source?

>>4827947
Botan doesn't want to deal with this shit but she's the one I see finding stable employment regardless, don't think she deserves her own "doesn't have to give a fuck" tier so she's fine up there.

>>4827947
wait, what about Korone? We know she was good friends with Coco, what with having a returning segment on Asacoco. That was one of the few times she had fun outside of games as well
Mr. Koro...

>>4832524
Fubuki is a furry, that tells you all you need to know

>>4827947
ayame doesn't give a fuck?
damn based. i guess all the whoryame haters are all zhang psyops

>>4820483
>>4823904

numbers don't lie zhangs.
eops gave more in a month than all of cn combined in 3 years

>>4825719
better company than cover thats for sure,

not as good as ICETEA but still doesn't bend to chinks so theres that

Aloe was correct about it all

>>4831900
is the rrat about yoguri being taiwanese true?

>>4832961

as much as everyone hates the white vshojo whore,
she was right about cover

>>4832961
oh of course the MASStard saviourfag chimes in about shit he doesn't know anything about.
Lat me guess, it was unicorns that did her in, right? Definitely wasn't her own rrat fuckery about shit she didn't know a damn about that got schizo nijiniggers bootyblasted, no, no. She definitely wasn't a fucked up menhera that was going to go up in flames sooner or later because of how fucked her personal life was and how stupid, young, and naive she was;
She was a whistleblower don't you see! Ignore the fact she went and auditioned for Cover anyway!

>>4816504
>She's already famous as her roomate
Her roommate isn't 2D however. Streaming with an avatar at times doesn't count. If she wants to continue as a vtuber she'll have to create a new character.

>>4812230
Yagoo is not to blame.

>>4811616
Good talents that deserve better than the fuckawful management they have. Not just Coco, either. Mel, Aqua, Towa, Aloe, all of them.

>>4822033
>I'm never a holofag but this is a problem bigger than Hololive/Cover and Vtubing itself: it's about the entertainment industry and China. Not only do they have massive monetary leverages, but harassments from their side will not be held accountable.
even the mouse?

>>4820941
>Coming to an entire board to bitch about how much you hate said boards content
Rent fucking free

Something smells like chinese shit to me, just look at the thread on Reddit with the Mod "Chinese Maple" and his general tone on the matter.

>>4833064
wait that's a rrat? nevermind then.

>>4833387
Very clearly talking about Vshojo and non-related ecelebs, not vtubers as a whole. I agree with him.

>>4827947
I bet polka is seething hard

>>4811616
fuck them niggas

>>4811616
CHICOM HATE
KMT NUMBA WAN

>>4828113
how do you fuck with a cock so small it makes your rice look big?

>>4822594
She had a twitch presence. Her rigging wasn't as good for body motion, but the mouth movement tracking was arguably better than Covers solution.

>>4817871
there was a zhang in a thread yesterday that explained most of these can be ignored if the vtuber is bringing in a ton of money/popular. but i you're just a literal who you get 3-6 days ban

If theres still people doubting about them being a black company you just need to wait till another one gets graduated and thats it. Comfirmed

Let's be real here. The only reason why Coco will graduate is because of creative differences.
-All of the issues that Coco experienced like the mod stuff and zhangs were all fixed since early 2021.
-Her collab restrictions for JP has been lifted for a long time now and she is able to collab with people. She can even collab with EN now and has hinted them since last month.
-Zhang profits are neglible because even when Holo pulled out they still consumed Holos like normal. They still bought their merch like normal. Holo earned in multi millions since terminating their HoloCN. HoloEN is the new frontliners now while HoloJP are the money makers.

It is creative differences because Cover has been being restrictive with their talents ever since their boom. This is not targeted with Coco but Coco is the one most affected because her content revolves around creative content. Not just streaming games like Asacoco. Examples of restrictive behavior:
-Pekora's project getting shutdown which resulted to her breakdown
-Marine's project shutdown which resulted to her extended break and depression
-Korone's project shutdown which also depressing her
-Haachama's content slapdown which caused her to go on a vacation

If anything has to be done here, is for Cover to provide their talents a way to still be creative. Coco mentioned that there were projects that won't see the light of day and that's because Cover won't approve them. She has said once before that she has ran out of ideas and took a break. She probably had another proposal that got denied again and chose to leave after the fact.

>>4811616
>tfw reddit dragon is gone
I might actually start watching Hololive again

>>4833522
not confirmed,
but she didn't have any involvement with the artia and civia thing

>>4835467
you realize the only reason why she was allowed to collab with en, was as a final send off right?
this was already determined a month in advance,
so mori, saying "FUCK EM" "FUCK EM" at the end was a response to management to coco

>>4835467
Many don't know that the money earned in China is very hard to pull out

>>4835467
About content restriction. There has been saying that the new Youtube policy make it difficult to stay monetized if keep doing those content.

>>4811616

Black as their name

>coco didn't have youtube's secret experimental antispam on her channel, it was actually cover who stopped paying the NGA drones to spam Coco's chat after negotiating her graduation

That would be the BLACKEST company thing ever

>>4835467
Like fuck they ALL had projects and ALL suddenly got ill. Take your meds.