/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

The south shall rise again

What is it now?

>>48642933

>>48642933
She called nyanners ''unstable'' for Vshojo standards

>>48642998
the fake whore really isnt looking so good anymore is she mouseybros

>>48642998
Really source i wanna see that lawl

>>48642998
I believe this

>>48642998
Prove it

>>48642662

>stab "friends" in the back
>they quit

Many such cases

>>48642996
Oof

Why didn't Ironlung support her fellow vshojo members when they were being attacked by the twitter troons? She talks about how loyal she is to her friends but when they needed her she was nowhere to be found.

Was she just a phony all along?

>>48643954
Has she even ever actually proven the Ironlung shit?

Like with genuine proof of her illness?

>>48644037

So she's a Munchausen syndrome compulsive liar? No wonder everyone is running away.

>>48644169
I'm starting to believe that personally.

She really doesn't seem like she has as serious as an illness as she makes out to be.

Show us your port, show us a fluid bag by your bedside. Your "special streaming desk" you had made for your bed. Anything. Something.

Just prove you're not a fucking liar.

>>48642662
Women cannot be trusted

imagine believing this grifter lol, tho at least all your donations pay for her kid, the dad prolly ran away so its a good cause

>>48644523

sorry buddy I don't pay for whores

>>48644523
the fact more people don't know about that is insane to me. she literally openly admits to it.

>>48642662
Maybe it wasn't intentional but she was most likely the "problem" imo.

>>48644258
And also, she's not a good singer at all if you remove the "for a sick girl" that lingers in the back of the saviourfag minds. She sounds awful

>>48645248
seriously though has she ever shown any inkling of proof about it?

inb4 she's actually just an aids ridden whore whos afraid to leave her house

>>48645472
Just some power ranger toys beeping in the background that she passes off as medical equipment

That Kiara really is just that dogshit. I'm sorry I had a little faith in her after Mori, Kronii, and Ame's "incidents." She does deserve all the hate

>>48645678
>>48645472
>>48645248
>>48644258
>>48644169
>>48644037
>>48643954
What the point of keeping it from the days where next to no one watching her

>>48644258
i got called a schizo after posting this type of theory a long time ago. she constantly says different things about her illness that contradict each other, for example (just from clips ive seen) she said that she never grew up with much wealth, and then also in another clip said that plasma costed like 10k per (month or year). like im sry right, BUT WHAT POOR PERSON CAN AFFORD 10K SPARE. another one was when she was meant to be moving houses. if ur so fucking ill, the house would have had to have been checked over before hand, weather by ur nurses or ur family, so how did u manage to move in before discovering there was black mold in the house. it seems wrong to not believe someone who has illnesses online, but when u contradict urself every clip i see about ur illness, it doesnt sit right. maybe im just schizo tho lmao

>>48645864
sure sure, pretend you are not that faggot that keep seething about her here.

>>48646071
She said the plasma is 10-15k per treatment and she needs it 4 times a month.

>>48646160
Gotta keep the subs above 10k or she'll drop dead uwu. But spends 10k a month in models

>>48642662
that she is a liar? whatever she have, it's not as serious as she make it out to be.

>>48646160
If this is true the US is truly fucked, but it probably isn't, so the US is only regularly fucked.

>>48646160
she should be long dead then if thats the case. poor my ass.

I just can't wait for it to finally be spread around that she's a compulsive liar that just wants people to pay to raise her fuckin' daughter because the dad won't.

>>48646417
>>48646441
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nd85itcgE-I
She says it around 50 second mark.

>>48644037
no point in even asking here unless you're just trying to bait people into getting banned.

>>48642662
Having a new model every so often killed the novelty after 3 times.

>>48646160
Couldn't she just have gone into serious medical debt...?

>>48646913
What? Her proving her illness on twitter/stream would get someone banned? Has she -actually- proven it herself voluntarily or are you implying the proof exists via past life?

Don't forget https://files.catbox.moe/n1uu9z.mp4

>>48647208
I think he means the proof that she's not sick would get you banned.

>>48647195
Idk about you but that's a lot of very expensive fancy pieces of "custom art" she buys and has rigged to debut constantly that could go towards paying her medical debt

>>48642662
>what did we learn?

That the only people who are staying with Vshojo are snakes

>>48646601
I'm not saying she didn't say it, I'm saying it's a load of bullshit.

>>48647195
How the FUCK does someone in medical debt have almost 40 custom-drawn and custom-rigged models?

Things are not adding up even remotely.

>>48647320 Thats why I asked "are you implying it's in relation to her past life?"
Would you really be banned for posting a link to a tweet with proof of her illness that she volunteered? Or a stream clip of her volunteering more proof? Thats what I'm asking specifically.

>>48646160
She doesn’t pay 10k every time she gets plasma pumped into her that’s insane, where did she say this?

what happened? i live under a rock like a bug.

>>48646417
It's in Puerto Rico which is technically US but I don't know if they have the same garbo healthcare system

>>48647466
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nd85itcgE-I
Starts at 50 seconds

>>48646160
>>48647466
>>48646441
she obviously has insurance. americans love to use the pre-deductible amounts as an excuse to shit on their own country (their favorite hobby), but that's not the amount that comes out of their pocket.

>>48646160
>>48646417
She's talking out her ass.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26919686/

> The total cost per unit of Fresh Frozen Plasma(FFP) transfused was $409·62 and $1,608·37 per patient transfused with FFP

still pricey but no way near what nonsense she's spouting.

>>48647667
Then what was the point of even mentioning the ridiculous number and not saying how much it is with insurance other than to beg her saviourfags for more money

>>48647669
>2016
Has the cost changed in the past 7 years?

>>48647669
so when do we end this liars career

>>48647725
why are you asking me? lol. i'm not defending her pitybaiting

>>48642998
No fucking way. Give me a clip

>>48642662
don't drink tap water at jerry garcia

>>48647669
You didn't include the doctor's new Corvette

>>48647661
Oh, she pays like 12k because she also has to pay for a nurse to administer it, that makes sense

>>48643954
>ironlung

>>48648030
???????????????
And this includes -far- more than just an at-home monitored infusion.

>>48647213
>https://files.catbox.moe/n1uu9z.mp4
chronic is dank nugnug salad, terminal is where you get off

>>48642998
>VShojo standards

>>48647756
It has to be stable. Considering America supplies 2/3's of the worlds Plasma.

>>48648201
The way she’s describing it, I don’t think she pays the nurse by the hour. It sounds like she just pays for an appointment

>>48642998
>Vshojo standards
THEY HAVE STANDARDS?!

>>48648496
Then.. wouldn't it be literally thousands cheaper to hire a nurse hourly from a nursing agency?
there is... thousands upon thousands of agencies with licensed practical nurses for hourly hire.

That just doesn't make sense.

>>48642662
That Latinas are more hard working and reliable and will do PR for your agency even while in contract negotiations?

>>48646071
>she constantly says different things about her illness that contradict each other, for example (just from clips ive seen)
No, she hasn't. Can you give examples of what you think these contridictions are? (Btw, the forbidden knowledge is not a contradiction)
>she said that she never grew up with much wealth, and then also in another clip said that plasma costed like 10k.
She was poor BECAUSE of the high cost of treatment. Her parents worked well into their elderly years to support her.
Also, have you never heard of medical debt?
>so how did u manage to move in before discovering there was black mold in the house.
You seem to be under the impression there were multiple moves. Anon, she discovered the black mold in the one house by doing exactly what you described: she had the house inspected beforehand. She never moved into the mold house. I haven't been keeping track recently but I'm pretty sure she hasn't moved at all yet.
>maybe im just schizo tho lmao
Ding ding ding.

>>48648880
Why can’t the Latinx make their own country’s not shitholes?

>>48643954
Because she bowed to them before Silver wanted to play. Made a tweet about wanting to play it which was met by hate from twitter and she quickly apologized and deleted the tweet altogether.
I think that just proves that this isn't a "big family of good friends" like Silver thought it was, this is a business first and foremost and Ironlung was probably advised by staff not to engage after that tweet, to just completely disassociate with Silver for PR purposes or face the twitter troons you essentially kneeled to earlier.

>>48649063
found the anon that pay her "medical bills"

>>48644258
>>48646071
what the truthcrab stream retards

>>48649809
Ask yourself anon: What use does everyone have to upkeep the lie? The second she has a falling out with someone (like she has), why is that not the first thing to come to light? Is she paying everyone so that they can keep it up?

Take your meds and do your reps, your skull is dented

>>48649063
is the forbidden knowledge her daughter?

because she did a fucking qna and VOLUNTEERED the info to people live on stream, even answering questions in her chat about it.

I hope you're not talking about that, because you're a retarded schizonigger if you actually think that giving information out by choice and then repeating what they told you is "forbidden"

>https://files.catbox.moe/l3ph6f.mp4

https://files.catbox.moe/l3ph6f.mp4

>>48647669
>plasma transfusion
can't she just get it at the tea aisle for 7 bucks

>>48646441
so much this

>>48642996
-ACK!

>>48644615
Janny will actually nuke clips of Ironmouse the vtuber talking about it live on air during Ironmouse the vtuber's streams, then ban the person for 'off-topic'.

>>48642998
Still no clip?

>>48652341

Jannies on this board are literally on the payroll. Why do you think you have the same threads every day with the same images and the same bot responses? This isn't as much of a board as it it a marketing tool.

Jannies run interference because they are paid to do so.

>>48654306
>Jannies run interference because they are paid to do so.
wtf you mean they aren't doing it for free?

>>48652341
janitors can't ban

>>48652341
I mean, that clip isn’t publicly available anymore

>>48648564
THAT WAS MY THOUGHT TOO! WHEN DID THEY EVER SET RULES FOR ANYTHING!?

It's just sad she didn't stand up for her "friends." Gotta get those sweet, sweet wokepoints from the twitter troons that don't even watch your channel.

>>48642998
She would say that jokingly to mamoru pink cat from her own retarded takes. Nyanners herself admits she's bipolar whenever she inadvertently triggers her flaggot fans to deflect criticism.

>>48642662
As Nintendo once implied,
>you are what you play,
games with a where-is-your-head-at-even such as Dead Space, Grand Theft Auto or Poopy Playtime are "cock".
While games that uplift the human spirit and the whole of the substance is gold such as Metroid, Touhou or Genshin Impact are "pussy" or, "egg".

>>48656938
What kind of schizoid rant is this?

>>48642998
No she didn't. Where did she say that? Receipts.

>>48657279

If you haven't noticed there's several chat bots operating at all times. This one just seems to be glitching out.

>>48643954
Because she has a kid and is terrified the deranged tranny mob would go after her if she so much as said hello to Silver. It's understandable that she would rather choose be a cowardly traitor to her work colleges rather than ruin her child's life over a fictional troon wizard.

I'm defending mouse janny, don't be a faggot and delete this post over a fact everyone knows. If anyone had the means to dox anyone it's the trannies, I think anyone in her situation would do the same.

>>48642662
Absolutely nothing, it was obvious a long time ago, but a bunch of fags kept sniffing copium

>>48657279
Tranny.

>>48657376
The number of genders is 2.

>>48647436
She's got a sub counter visible on stream at all times. So I went to her stream right now to look at it and it says she's at 13,555. Multiply that by $2.50 since a sub is $5 and Twitch takes half of that amount and you get $33,887.50 Now factor in that some of those subs are Tier 2 or Tier 3 which would give $5 and $12.50 respectively. Then there's direct donations, bits, and merch sales.

>>48658848
Going by your image there’s only one gender now

>>48660905
she's probably making close to 6 figures a month after donations and merch

Whatever you say.
>>48661011

>>48642662
Gatekeep your hobbies

This is what Twitch is all about.

>>48647436
wasn't the original argument that she GREW UP poor? as in, before she started streaming?
the fact her actual income is high doesn't erase that past, and I'm pretty sure nobody has claimed she is currently poor or in debt.

basic logic, my dude.

>>48663513
Yeah, and it’s a degenerative condition, which wasn’t an issue until she got older.

>>48660905
where is vshojo's cut and taxes?

>>48663925
Vshojo doesn’t take anything from subs
I don’t know shit about streaming taxes

>>48642998
Tbf, Nyanners called Nyanners unstable for VShojo standards.

>>48649969
She counts on them not having solid proof, and she sticks to the story even though a lot of the details don't make sense and she counts on people not being able to double-check since they lack the experience. Also who's going to go and call the "sick angel" a liar? That's career suicide at this point since she's got very powerful friends by now in the online entertainer space.

Also idk how many of her friends or people she's fallen out with has actually had any details about her not being as sick as she's saying she is.

How much she said it cost PER TRANSFUSION though is just ridiculous clown-school levels of hyperbole and that's bizarre how she's been able to peddle that lie for so many years. Even IF her parents both worked well into retirement age no blue collar worker would be able to afford 10k every week.

>>48657715
From what I remember she let it slip that she talked to Connor about it and since he's a cuck he told her not to play it. He tries to play it like he's "above it" or don't care but he's very much the type of loser that would just lay down and surrender any and all grounds as long as a tranny asks him to.

>>48664039
What do they take then?
And should be just like normal taxes, report as income. Quick google show taxing around 35% for her level of income.

>>48663613
If it's a degenerative condition shouldn't she be worse now and be able to stream LESS? She's done subathons, streams very regularly and seems to be healthier than ever is that supposed to be a medical miracle or something? A degenerative disease shouldn't be reverting unless there's some huge breakthrough in CVID treatment.

>>48649809
I never given a single cent to any vtuber.

>>48665855
You know you could just look things up instead of taking a random anon's word as absolute truth

>>48663925
>>48665793
>where is vshojo's cut and taxes?
VShojo got whatever they make from their YouTube highlights channel and all profits from their merch store which is likely where they make the most bank.. The latter being much less appealing now for members like Vei who can go weeks to months without streaming, she would likely want a cut of that.
At least that was the way things worked when both Vei and Kson joined.

>>48666351
You can't even confirm that you absolute retard, on a deleted Evanito VOD he literally said they DO take a cut of revenue, the clips are in the archive fucking troglodyte do you reps fucktard.

>>48642998
clip?
>clip?
clip?
>clip?
clip?
>clip?

>>48665855
>A degenerative disease shouldn't be reverting unless there's some huge breakthrough in CVID treatment.
The thing is, at the start of her streaming career she couldn't afford all of her meds and she'd been through a number of serious infections that wrecked her shit. With covid happening and her having less exposure to people both directly and indirectly because her parents had to quarantine with her also helped her health improve. Not so much an improvement in CVID treatment as her own.
While her condition is indeed degenerative, a couple months ago she said they were potentially going to increase the rate at which she receives plasma transfusions when she's already at once a week. Years ago she was at once a month.

>>48666762
I was just repeating what members themselves had said. Not what some vulture said based off what he supposedly heard from a friend who heard from a member. You can't confirm his statements either.

How can someone with a degenerative disorder that allegedly impacts their voice/lung capacity somehow still able to talk consistently for 6-10 hours straight multiple times a week for years on end? I don’t really understand this aspect of her illness

>>48667635
Her illness make her more susceptible to catching other things, and she caught a lung disease at some point but I don't believe the lung disease is degenerative it just caused a lot of damage some of which has been healing when she first started she could only stream like an hour

>>48668431
she's faking it

>>48642998
>Standards
>In a corpo that continuously label itself with "Talent Freedom!"

>>48665855
its not cvid that has been getting better its the other things she has caught because of her immunodeficiency that are starting to heal

>>48642998
Pathetic.

>>48645864
by association, hololive is too late to be saved. a new vtuber must emerge to completely disassociate from all western vtuber degeneracy

>>48666762
And merch is revenue retard. They've never denied that that's where the income comes from.

>>48647669
>per unit
are you missing this part? in the clip below she says she gets 5 bottle of 500cc according to google one unit is 250ml so she gets 10 units of plasma.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PONCRt8n1A

>>48642998
STILL NO CLIP

>>48670125
Isnt it convenient how she deleted the vod despite nothing happening in it according to you

>>48644523
Wdym "prolly"? He definitely ran away.

>>48670307
Ironmouse deletes vods all the time. How new are you

>>48670307
Asking for a source is not a refutation. However, will not simply assume a statement is correct without any evidence. You aren't going to change that.

>>48670982
I just did
I dont think you want me to link you the mega link of ironmouse crying and lying about the nux situation as she begs for people not to clip it

>>48646071
> another clip said that plasma costed like 10k per (month or year). like im sry right

That's what gets billed to insurance or Medicaid/Medicare.

Try being on dialysis, shits twice as fucked. American healthcare is super fucked and it's everyone sendin $20k here and there

>>48642662
she's gonna die now anytime now
in the next 20 or 50 odd years

>>48671770
I do want you to. You painted me as a IM gachi while I just want something tangible to justify my dislike of her.

>>48648630
She probally needs a registered nurse to do it. a "home health aid" is a glorified house maid.

>>48674231
She does have a nurse come by to do it. There was a period at the end of 2021 where she got extra sick because her nurse got COVID and couldn't come by until she was cleared up so Mouse had gone like 3-4 weeks without plasma. She also got it administered multiple times on stream during her subathon

>>48642933
https://files.catbox.moe/fefp97.mp4

>>48642662
absolutely nothing, western whores will keep lying thru their teeth like they always did, and enablers will be there to encourage them

>>48642998
ogey

>>48660905
True.
she is alive because she got rich.
and now she has cool toys too.

>>48675023

>>48671770
dude what?

I learned that only those who are brave and strong enough to stand up to hate mobs are the ones who thrive.

>>48677580
She not brave, she’s just a bimbo

>>48675023
At least they're healthy and no problem

>>48677630
Still pissed that she played Hogwarts Legacy?

>>48677818
Nah, I’m mad because she’s dating Asmongold

>>48677904
Gonna need proof of this.
I highly doubt she's more than just a fangirl.

>>48678009
I mean, I can’t prove it definitively, but they are 100% talking off stream, sharing posts from /here/
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1808812364?t=0h29m50s

>>48675023
What the hell is this? I’m not gonna waste 7 minutes of my life on this shit, already wasted enough reading this thread

>>48642662
Pink cat mediocre. Fake cripple bad.

>>48678323
Not surprised considering he defended her during her low point.

>>48678526
Pink cat BAD dumbfuck

Fake crip lying bitch learn to read and learn to see.

>>48643954
>Ironlung
HOLY KEK

>>48644523
>>48644615
>>48652341
Ban me faggots I need a break

>>48642998
>source: my ass

bump

>>48677904
I thought that nigga was married

>>48649063
Cope.

>>48649124
Jews.

>>48643228
>>48643758
>>48647824
>>48652938
>>48657338
>>48666956
>>48670125
>>48679346
I'm not spoonfeeding you retards common knowledge.

Schizo theory but consider this. What if when Ironmouse mentions her sister, she’s actually talking about her 15 year old daughter ?

>>48656135
>>48652341
>>48656135
https://files.catbox.moe/v6h6y4.mp4
cheers guys, see you in a month or so

>>48678521
nothing much, just mouses worst kept secret.

>>48681107
>https://files.catbox.moe/v6h6y4.mp4
Bro give me a fucking timestamp that shit is 2 hours long

>>48642998
>Source: Trust me bro, It happened. For real

>>48680297
If it was common knowledge then you shouldn't have answered my question in the first place you fucking retard.

>>48649124
To be fair to Puerto Rico, America tried marketing it as a "non-savage" place to buy a timeshare, then when the economy tanked, the US Fed was like "lel you fuckin' beaners are on your own" and basically treats PR like an afterthought even though it's US territory

>>48688236

They had a hurricane and the US shipped over millions in aid which was promptly stolen and kept in a warehouse by their corrupt government. Latin America is a shithole because it's full of Latin Americans.

>>48665495
anon, they dont need that solid of proof to still call it out, eventually enough people wouldve come out about it if it wasnt true.
obviously some details are being left out that we dont actually need to be privy to; that makes the story less believable, since we know she excludes info all the time, especially one info that gets people vacationed if they say it.
her actually being sick is something that can be heard or does effect stream from time to time, including but not limited too, the oxygen machine, the breathing tubes, and blood transfusions.
>>48689665
i dont know anon, hoarding supplies tends to be a symptom of a lack of those supplies normally, obviously still corrupt shit but i doubt they wouldve stole them and put them in some shed if they had easier access to said supplies normally.

>>48689665
>Latin America is a shithole because it's full of Latin Americans

This