/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>4910325
Time for your meds anon! here take them before you keep saying more stupid shit.

>>4910325
if their talent want to continue working for hololive they can immigrate to a country that wont treat them like virus vectors for their political hegemony.

>>4910325
Lurk more or fuck off.

China has it out for the rest of the world. No words will change that.

>>4910325
Artia being the whore she is never ever apologized for what her mod did. That means she's complicit.
Now fucking neck yourself you subhuman insect.

>>4910325
>taiwan
Just how butthurt can mainlanders be? It's literally just a one word.

Don't care, I'm only here for the shitposting.

>>4910325
>All of these newfags who think all of HoloCN and every Chinese fan had it out for Cover/Hololive
Projecting newnigger Civiafag. She was the very first to spout pro-CCP faggotry, she reposted a post in favor of it on her weibo before she debuted on YouTube. You wouldn't know that though.

>>4910325
kys op. BUGS BEGONE TAIWAN NUMBAH ONE

>>4910325
This board is 90% people who weren't on 4chan until literally 3 months ago. What else would you expect? CN LOVE

>>4910377
Are we going to ignore the fact that most people couldn't afford to move their families out, and likely couldn't convince them to leave their home just so they can stream to people in a different language?
>>4910370
>>4910380
Both of you are clueless. Do your archive reps, then ask what happened on bilibili shortly after Cover bowed out of the Chinese Vtuber market.
>>4910427
>Artia being the whore she is never ever apologized for what her mod did.
She apologized for the way she handled things, yes. Even though she wasn't guilty, she still handed down an apology, as the adult in the room.
>>4910499
>Signalling to Chinese fans that you love the govt.
>Implying this means anything from a public persona in China.
Is your brain working?

>>4910611
>Artia
>Adult
HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
AAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA
Wait...you're serious?

>>4910652
That's just plain cute from Tia tbqh senpai.

>>4910611
>Signalling to Chinese fans that you love the govt
>While being close friends with Artia, who actively incited hated towards Coco and Haachama
>While having 2 nationalists who wrote posts on Weibo along the lines of "Kiryu Coco NMSL" modding your chat
Civia apologists like you are fucking retards.

>>4910611
>but theys poor you gosta gibs me dat subscribers!
kek, no. we dont have to catch chink aids to save chinks. do you think theyre going to spend money to have me move to their perfect country in reverse? fuck off faggot.

>>4910668
Just fucking end it Chink. You're not welcome here.

>>4910325
Bugmen be gone

>>4910325
Does Civia plan on ever streaming in English again? If not, why did she graduate on YouTube? Genuinely trying to understand the thought process behind that.

>>4910652
>Tia shutting down one of her channels because she's possessive of her fans.
I love this GFE.
>>4910688
>While being close friends with Artia, who actively incited hated towards Coco and Haachama
This is where I call you a schizo, because that didn't happen.
>While having 2 nationalists who wrote posts on Weibo along the lines of "Kiryu Coco NMSL" modding your chat
So, once again, someone being affiliated with nationalists isn't an indictment. Believe it or not, they can't have their worlds revolve around Coco when their entire branch is about to be dropped out of convenience.
>>4910690
I don't even know what you're trying to say there.

>>4910325
How hard is it for china to admit that Taiwan is a real country and further more the real china?

>>4910788
Artia literally had to stop streaming on Twitch because her bugmen "fans" started harassing and raiding her for not giving them all her attention and pandering to the "enemy". Yes, they're that fragile and petty. So no chance in hell any of them will.

>>4910325
Ok cover corp.
This place is not reddit so I'm going to give you a nugget and tell you to fuck my neighbour's dog ass shill.

>>4910652
>fan streaming on discord while the streamer herself is live
Wait a minute, this is the same shit Bungo Taiga complained about.

>>4910857
That and commissioning lewd art were both bs imo.

>>4910820
>because that didn't happen
She wrote "hold the bottom line", again, on her Weibo. Unless you're one of those desperate Tiafags who deny that account was hers. Seems like you know nothing about this situation. Take a look at this image she drew after her reincarnation. Look at who Hecatia drew to represent her enemies. A dragon with a red heart. I wonder what that could mean, hmm.
>So, once again, someone being affiliated with nationalists isn't an indictment
It certainly is an indication that she isn't bothered by their behavior enough to ask them not to say such horrible things. Cope harder.

>>4910820
>I am just going to pretend ai dont understand
say these words ching chong
Taiwan is an independent state.

>>4910909
I interpreted the hold the bottom line thing as a keep calm kind of thing. It is too vague though. As for the dragon, she wrote Ciyana on it but that isn't that much better considering they haven't spoken to each other in months.

>>4911094
>I interpreted the hold the bottom line thing as a keep calm kind of thing
That doesn't track when chinks have been very explicit about their "bottom line" being the One-China policy. It's not a secret and they've been very vocally upset with Coco for not "respecting" it. The Ciyana excuse holds no water either when she very intentionally placed a red heart on it.

>>4911148
Fair enough.

>>4910788
>Does Civia plan on ever streaming in English again?
She still does, on occasion. Just not on Youtube. She recently did a singing collab with another Vtuber with American Pop songs.
>If not, why did she graduate on YouTube?
Youtube was dropped because she changed characters, and her new agency likely just doesn't want her streaming there.
>>4910909
>She wrote "hold the bottom line", again, on her Weibo. Unless you're one of those desperate Tiafags who deny that account was hers.
That's not a call for harassment. She's saying to maintain and reaffirm the orthodox position. That's all. It's a way to draw nationalists and fulfill her obligations to her country.
>Take a look at this image she drew after her reincarnation. Look at who Hecatia drew to represent her enemies. A dragon with a red heart. I wonder what that could mean, hmm.
That, after no longer being associated with Hololive, she was, during the time of her redebut, salty about Coco and Haato.
>It certainly is an indication that she isn't bothered by their behavior enough to ask them not to say such horrible things.
Again, he went off on his own to do that. Artia's not obligated to have felt one way or another about someone. Especially when she was focused on keeping her character during the upcoming termination. If you want to say, "Artia didn't step up to attack Coco's antis", then that's a very different claim from the usual, "Artia encouraged people to harass Coco".

>>4910325
I’m new to this board.
What are the “reps” you guys are talking about?

>>4910325
Nuke China, simples as. There would be no more falseflagging then.

>>4911232
>That's not a call for harassment. She's saying to maintain and reaffirm the orthodox position
And how the fuck do you think they intended on "maintaining and reaffirming the orthodox position" you massive retard? Artia already stated in a stream that she'd engaged in harassment in the past for another pro-government political campaign. She knew exactly what she was doing.
>she was, during the time of her redebut, salty about Coco and Haato
Yes, she was angry at Coco and Haato and encouraged her fans to be as well, like I said, inciting hatred.
>Again, he went off on his own to do that. Artia's not obligated to have felt one way or another about someone
You're not even properly reading my posts now because I was referring to fucking Civia. You're not "obligated" to feel any way about anyone but if you feel positively towards a nationalist people are going to assume you sympathize with their ideology, it's not rocket scientist. 9 times out of 10 people with radically different politics cannot be friends and you're making the argument that despite all evidence to the contrary this time they did.

>all these supposed pro-holo CNs that got fired for no raisin
If they ignored random retards on the internet sperging out at their supposed friendly coworkers and didn't make a public statement supporting Coco then they weren't really anti-zhang. Same with the remaining Chinese holofans, if some random japanese watamate can sign zhangs up for the army over the internet, then the people capable of visiting in person should have been able to shut it down with their soulless disregard for fellow bug life

>>4911338
"Repetitions". It's a /fit/ meme that we now use to say someone should check the archives, get their history straight, or learn a language.
>>4911409
>And how the fuck do you think they intended on "maintaining and reaffirming the orthodox position" you massive retard?
>Artia already stated in a stream that she'd engaged in harassment in the past for another pro-government political campaign.
Yeah, by going on Facebook and posting on related articles that Taiwan was Chinese territory. It's a vague statement that just means, "I support the government, guys!"
It means nothing.
>Yes, she was angry at Coco and Haato and encouraged her fans to be as well, like I said, inciting hatred.
She attributed blame to them for her branch's termination, and that, long after she was done with Hololive and had nothing to gain by covering for them. Those were just her honest feeling then.
>You're not even properly reading my posts now because I was referring to fucking Civia.
Doesn't matter. Same situation. She's not responsible for her mods revealing how serious they were about nationalist pride, and that wasn't the time to be focusing on that.
>You're not "obligated" to feel any way about anyone but if you feel positively towards a nationalist people are going to assume you sympathize with their ideology
How the fuck did you make that leap? That doesn't make sense in any world.
>9 times out of 10 people with radically different politics cannot be friends and you're making the argument that despite all evidence to the contrary this time they did.
They're both Pro-China people. The difference is that one holds a more extreme position and takes idol girls too seriously. That's not, "Radically different politics".
>>4911444
>If they ignored random retards on the internet sperging out at their supposed friendly coworkers and didn't make a public statement supporting Coco then they weren't really anti-zhang.
No, they were Chinese themselves. Why would they try to prove they were "Anti-Zhang"?
>Same with the remaining Chinese holofans, if some random japanese watamate can sign zhangs up for the army over the internet, then the people capable of visiting in person should have been able to shut it down with their soulless disregard for fellow bug life
The entire reason that's possible is because the Watamates responsible didn't live in China or any area under its Jurisdiction. If a Chinese citizen had done that, he'd have been punished for fraudulent practices.

>>4911738
>should check the archives,
someone is archiving /vt/ now?

>>4911738
Thanks dude. I was wondering if there was a subset of fans getting swole for their favorite V-Tubers but that makes more sense.

>>4911781
Yes. >>/vt/

>>4910325
You have to realize that this is all a massive cope for Coco leaving Hololive even after Cover nuked an entire branch to keep her. It's the vtubing equivalent of your wife taking half their money and leaving you after you donated a kidney to her, and delusion is all these anons have left.

>>4911871
>changchangchangchang

Xi Jinping is winnie the pooh, nanking didn't happen but it should have, chinks tongue my anus, and tiananmen happened.

>>4910325
>rewriting history A to Z and thinking people won't notice

>>4911738
>Yeah, by going on Facebook and posting on related articles that Taiwan was Chinese territory. It's a vague statement that just means, "I support the government, guys!"
Yeah, and people just went in Coco's chat and said "nmsl". It's a vague statement that just means, "I support the government, guys!". Fuck off. Don't try and downplay the situation.
>Those were just her honest feeling then
And her honest feelings were based on nationalistic hatred towards a girl that said Taiwan. I don't understand what point you're trying to make here, "sure she attacked and hated a co-worker, but it wasn't THAT bad"? That's more than reason enough for Artia to be shit on.
>She's not responsible for her mods revealing how serious they were about nationalist pride
But she is responsible for associating with mods that are overtly serious about their nationalistic pride. There is no reason that she had to choose 2 nationalists to mod her chat over all people. It was a deliberate choice she made.
>That doesn't make sense in any world
People prefer to be friends with people that share their values and opinions, yes. You don't often see people on this board making friends with "shitlibs". If you are friends with someone, chances are you share very close values to them.
>That's not, "Radically different politics"
And that's the point retard, Civia is buddy buddy with nationalists that harassed Coco, she is okay with their actions enough to let them go on and no amount of cope will change this.

>>4911781
Yes, but in this case, you'd want to check the /jp/ archives. This board didn't exist during the HoloCN arc.
>>4911786
I mean, that's definitely on the table. You're not just watching when your oshi plays RFA, right?

JUDAS
YOU BETRAYED ME 3 TIMES BUT I STILL BELEVIE YOU

>>4911871
Even before Coco announced her graduation, this nonsense was rampant.
>>4911964
I'm just rebuking the BS newfags and tatsunokos propagated.
>>4912015
>Yeah, and people just went in Coco's chat and said "nmsl". It's a vague statement that just means, "I support the government, guys!". Fuck off. Don't try and downplay the situation.
"NMSL" doesn't have anything to do with the government.
>And her honest feelings were based on nationalistic hatred towards a girl that said Taiwan.
No, they were just her feeling like two co-workers were the reason her branch got canned.
>I don't understand what point you're trying to make here, "sure she attacked and hated a co-worker, but it wasn't THAT bad"? That's more than reason enough for Artia to be shit on.
That's not what's being described here. "X killed my previous character, but I've returned!" is a pretty normal thing. There's no need for an excuse, as there's nothing wrong with saying it. It's not hateful, and it's not encouraging harassment, as she's back for her fans anyway.
>But she is responsible for associating with mods that are overtly serious about their nationalistic pride.
Yes, which means nothing.
>There is no reason that she had to choose 2 nationalists to mod her chat over all people.
She chose people to be mods. Two turned out to be more "Pro-China" than she was.
>It was a deliberate choice she made.
Before that would've ever been relevant to her or her company.
>People prefer to be friends with people that share their values and opinions, yes. You don't often see people on this board making friends with "shitlibs". If you are friends with someone, chances are you share very close values to them.
We're talking about mods, not close personal friends. Do you think Matsuri really knows or cares about l*ger's personal politics?
>And that's the point retard, Civia is buddy buddy with nationalists that harassed Coco
Again, they were mods. That's not "HoloCN had it out for Coco". That's, "HoloCN's acquaintances and some of their mods (+ Rosalyn) encouraged people to attack Coco." Get it right.

>>4910462
nigger is a word to...

>>4913160
Completely different things!

>>4913198
>It's literally just a one word.
no, it's a word. it isn't different.

>>4912491
thanks anon. i honestly dont care about this whole politics but yogiri and civia was my fav for their singing potential. Hololive was their chance to put it out there but it got shut down, it trully break my heart thinking about it.
i just hope they could find a better outlet or platform to showcase their potential.
or do you have info on their current state? are they still Vtuber?

>>4914505
>i just hope they could find a better outlet or platform to showcase their potential.
Yogiri's doing pretty well. Possibly better than she did as Yogiri, but I'm not certain.
https://bml.bilibili.com/vr
Civia's been back for...6 months now? Same as before. Still lovely. Check the "Bilibili general" archives (last one was one or two days ago here). They link to everything.
Only one who didn't come back is Doris.

Hatefuck chink whores, and spit on kool-aid drinking shill niggers. For now they are safe behind great firewall of china, and not welcomed on the free internet. If you wanna watch them go on bilibili and support your overlords.
Case of snake betrayal and unicorn gfe act was posted more times than coco threads yesterday.
Hang yourself, Zhang.

>>4910847
Pretty sure she stopped streaming on Twitch because she knew everyone would be on her ass now that Coco graduated.

Taiwan is a country

>>4915304
She stopped because her managers and Chinese fans got on her about it.

>>4915507
Did she announce that before because she tweeted she wasn’t coming back the day Coco Graduated?

>>4916523
She's been away from Twitch for a good while, and she told us not to expect any content on Twitch. This was just an affirmation that she wouldn't be coming back on top of that.

>>4915507
Rrat or proofs?

>>4918202
>Rrat
Fucking newfag. It was either on the Discord or her Twitter. Don't remember which.

>>4915304
If I remember correctly, she returned to her beloved Bugland, and Twitch is banned there.

Also, she was backstabbed by her Twitch friends (laser guided karma), and made a face reveal (laughed for being uggo with a giant forehead).

>>4910325
Sounds like projection to me.

>>4910325
Nah, fuck CN, investing in that country is a trap and Cover was right to throw them under the bus

>>4910325
>All these newfags who think CN's graduation was because of a fucking word
It's because Bilifaggots wanted to hijack CN branch and kick Cover from China. Standard bug modus operandi. Steal shit -> kick original maker of this shit from the country -> replace OM on the domestic market and maybe try to replace them on the international market.

Besides Cover dodged a fucking nuke with the latest insect streaming restrictions.

>All of these newfags who think all of HoloCN and every Chinese fan had it out for Cover/Hololive

No, but a solid chunk of them stuffing their faces with ywwuyi's stormtrooper narratives. And even biger part of them did mental gymnastics.

>>4910611
> she still handed down an apology, as the adult in the room
>Artia
>adult
Just stop posting and fuck off back to weibo.

>>4912015
>and said "nmsl". It's a vague statement that just means, "I support the government, guys!"
Nah, that's chink "insult". And they are pretty bad in that shit.

>NMSL (Chinese: 你妈死了; pinyin: nǐmāsǐle; lit. 'Your mom is dead'), used as an insult, a Chinese Internet slang.

>>4910611
i mean i assume most chinese cant afford it b/c of social credit, when you want to leave your country usually its b/c your life is shitty there, but if the government puts you below the social credit to be allowed to leave the country, youre basicly fucked unless you have a lot of money to pay to up your social credit. why do you think most chinese dont leave the country thats forcing them to pay the government the equivalent of bonus taxes

Today I will remind them, again.

>>4921574
Anon, social credit isn't the beginning and end of personal finance. Thanks for the schizo rant.

Name one chinese ally that doesn't have a proverbial or literal gun to their head

>>4910325
>All of these newfags who think all of HoloCN and every Chinese fan had it out for Cover/Hololive.
They do. Chinese don't have the capability for human emotions or thoughts.

>>4915304
why would she know about coco graduation a month ago?

>>4912491
Just explain this, if artia isn't responsible for the harassment of coco why she thinks coco killed her character?
The only thing coco and hachama did was reading fucking youtube stats, if artia wasn't a brainwashed zhang she would have understood that the real culprits were the harassing zhangs and not cover, not coco, not hachama.

>>4910611
>>Signalling to Chinese fans that you love the govt.
>>Implying this means anything from a public persona in China.
>Is your brain working?
You're conceding the point though. That this is the "norm" in China makes their talents completely incompatible with the rest of the world. It's fine, it just can't work.

>>4923559
5 spammers on a Taiwanese VPN bought your pathetic agency to its knees in addition to now inhabiting your tiny holobrony skulls. How could you possibly touch China when hundreds of you LARPers don't even have an answer to something as trivial as this?

>>4921581
Congratulations, You let a race of weak-willed bug slave take your job. Twenty years ago no one wold take China this serious. If There’s a sense of panic now. What’ll happen in another twenty years?

>>4928895
>Just explain this, if artia isn't responsible for the harassment of coco why she thinks coco killed her character?
Because of the timing of her branch's death. Both of the major companies used the event as an excuse to drop them.
>if artia wasn't a brainwashed zhang she would have understood that the real culprits were the harassing zhangs and not cover, not coco, not hachama.
The real culprit was her platform, anonchama. Thwy wanted Hololive entirely out of the way so A-Soul could take center stage. Spammers were just an annoyance in the larger scheme of things.
>>4929734
>You're conceding the point though. That this is the "norm" in China makes their talents completely incompatible with the rest of the world.
A Chinese talent making Pro-CCP statements on Weibo doesn't mean or affect anything.

>>4932820
>Twenty years ago no one wold take China this serious.
They've been maintaining a wage growth rate of some 12%+ for decades. It's actually amazing to think about.
>If There’s a sense of panic now. What’ll happen in another twenty years?
China's currently hitting the limits of what its old methods can support. Exporting your way to prosperity only works until you're on par with the premier powers in the world. Even if they move things to their internal economy, they won't be able to sustain wage growth with just that. It's why they're sending laborers out now. They're trying to cut their momentum and reorient.

read this thread >>4840571

Artia was a nationalist, for a shitty ass country/government yes, but that's about it. She didnt harass Coco herself, she was used, possibly by bilibili, in typical zhang business backstabbing fashion.
I wonder if any of the girls knew. Maybe Rosalyn.

>>4915029
thanks anon
oh yeah what's their current name?

Reminder that Artia backstabbed Echo on one of her streams. she said echo sleep with black guys on shanghai and her top superchatter got a blowjob from her

Heard Tia pumped and dumped EOPs (again), how are you holding up bros?

>>4941983
hot

>>4913160
In most countries we're allowed to be indifferent to the nono words, instead of state mandated aggression.

>>4942411
tia values money more than anything. Eventually, she'll have to choose between her nationalistfag attitude and money, and she'll choose money, fullfilling the Judas role

>>4943042
but in the end, even Judas got redeemed. She has a long and dark character development arc ahead of her

>>4942411
being a tiafag is suffering

>>4942411
Chinks are simply paying better. If you had simped more, she would have stayed on Twitch

>>4942411
Pretty good since I'm not a EOP brainlet. Bili is a great filter. Too bad there isn't an easy way to filter EOPs on YouTube

>>4910386
And they lie as easily as they breathe. Human rights abuses? Nope. Tiananmen Square? Nope. Taiwan is an internationally recognized independent country? Nope.
They believe that their version of the truth and if they repeat it for long enough or bully hard enough others will fall in line. I mean look at John Cena and his complete capitulation to the CCP line recently, it's already taking effect.

>>4910611
>Are we going to ignore the fact that most people couldn't afford to move their families out, and likely couldn't convince them to leave their home just so they can stream to people in a different language?
Yogiri is taiwanese, that's a different COUNTRY.

>>4910325
The US nuked the wrong country

>>4918991
where's her face reveal?

>>4910325
>all these newfags who actually know what's going on

>>4943801
They had their chance but they voted for the cuck Truman.

>>4922704
Xian Xina

>>4910325
itt: it didn’t stop them from watching wolf warrior and op is a history rewriting fag, just like the current Chinese government