/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

But why does Coco's cum and throw super have armor during the recovery frames?

>>49308528
Nice embed

>>49308641
I wouldn't say her neutral is honest, a lot of characters have trouble getting past 6M-236 note pressure when cornered, even with a predicted jump. You can just chip some characters to death. The main problem seems like Aki, and Aki is retarded right now and basically cheats neutral. No other character can just teleport behind a giant sword while having an active hitbox.

>>49308970
At least the links work this time

Ayame my gentle wife!

>idol thread
Ninaninin was is in a fighting game arc some time ago. I can't recall why she stopped though.

>>49308950
She needs it bro

>>49308978
The thing about that pressure is that you can jump the sword. Sora can of course just do nothing and wait for you to jump and then swat you out of the air but the reward she gets for anti-airing is like a 20% combo whereas some characters like Fubuki or Botan just jump in and do 35-40%. Once you instill that fear of jumps into the Sora it becomes a lot easier to manage the ground game at closer ranges because she's not going to throw out swords like an idiot (assuming they're thinking) since the risk/reward game is skewed.

>>49308978
To me the silliest strong thing about Sora is that she can build superchat meter at a hilarious rate by spamming all of her special moves at long range, but at least Aki, Botan, and Fubuki can just murder you for doing that instead. A lot of what makes the game kuso besides the ultra poverty input reading, buggy shit, and outright baffling move properties is just the extremely polarizing matchups from uneven move sets. Like one guy is over here designing a character with a normal really strong fireball and then someone over there is going "bro what if this character had a nearly instant full screen move with no hurtbox" with his own (shitty) idea of drawbacks but no consideration for how these two moves are going to interact.

>>49309375
The sword is fucking hard to jump. If you do it on reaction and she whiffs, she recovers before you come down from the jump. You have to basically predict that it's going to come out, but she can just wait at max range and force you to make a bad choice. If you block, you're stuck holding note pressure. Some characters have it easier besides Aki, like Korone and Ayame but it's still not necessarily easy to get past. I actually tested with Botan and she doesn't punish max range 6M with a jumpin unless she's practically reading your mind and jumps extremely early.

3rd Strike Coop Cup watchalong
https://www.twitch.tv/huntress

>>49309723
>unless she's practically reading your mind and jumps extremely early
Let's be honest here 90% of Botan players don't think or try to yomi, if they want to jump they'll just do it as early as possible.

>>49309723
Considering Botan can just press 9H and make you work to anti-air it (it's like the first real use for Sora's 6L I found because 2H so often misses or doesn't come out in time) that's not exactly a hard bet on their part.

I thought Aki was a meme but I just got perfected 2 rounds in a row, the fact she can teleport at the same time as she throws her stand makes it impossible to react as you have to block both and can't even see her.

I really wonder if they are going to actually balance the game. It really shows the devs didn't think there would be so many people playing it so they didn't bother playtesting a bunch of stuff.

Has it been mentioned that Marine assist (cannon) seems to have different hitboxes when used on P1 vs P2 side? P2 side's first cannon shot hits a little more behind you so it won't combo things it normally could on P1.

>>49310405
I just hope they don't get rid of some of the fun unintentional stuff. I like combos into grabs.

>>49310405
https://twitter.com/WizardlyShoe4/status/1656698031150972939
https://twitter.com/WizardlyShoe4/status/1656993659135426562
Balance patches are coming it looks like yeah. Since this guy is the lead combat designer maybe add him to the OP?

>>49310405
I mean to be fair it's their first fighting game. Other big fighting games also have ridiculously broken shit despite already having decades of experience in making fighting games. Shit like akuma and geese in tekken 7, luke in sf5, fusions and android 21 in dbfz, vergil in mvc3, etc.

>>49309223
Does she like hololive?
Can you get her to get invested in idol showdown?

Trying Korone
A52EB0B9

>>49311768
id join but im scared

>>49309780
>turd strike
who cares

>>49311807
All your fears are validated and very real. Come join and get your ass kicked until you stop being scared.

>>49311768
>Attempting to connect to an Opponent
help i can't do anything

>>49311949
Try again, seems like he wants to play you.

New lobby because hacker man destroyed the old one.
1D672D90

>>49311985
He's not joining anymore.
why are these threads so dead all the time

>infinite loading again
ok i give up
sorry

>>49310405
The fact that the largest tourney so far at least had most of the characters in top 8 with an expected one getting second place is a good sign at least.

>>49308528
how do I unlock the other skins? virtual frontier or arcade?

>>49312617
Beat Virtual Frontier
Beat Arcade
Win 5? Times online.

>>49308528
sora if you're here, those were some good sets. I'm the braindead coco that can't neutral for shit

>>49311089
She does like Hololive, but right now she's on a trip to Japan. I still don't know why she never did a collab with Shimada since they know each other.

>>49312946
Tigerbro here, they did a collab but it wasn't fighting game
She's always in her chat even so. Shimada doesn't really like collabs she does one like every 6 months

>>49312890
Do you still want to play? Briandead Coco that can't neutral seems fun.

Ayame doesn't feel so kawaii...

how do i stop getting people to ragequit against aki
i just like doing her combos

>Sora is ba-

https://twitter.com/yabu1/status/1656634498665308160

>>49315977
Tomo if I could actually do that I would be playing BlazBlue.

>>49315891
Wait for people to get used to fighting her or find people who know what to do/don't mind getting bodied and learning. She's a rare matchup so people don't get many chances to figure out what she does let alone how to fight her and the average scrub would rather dodge the one off MUs they don't regularly see than try to learn it.

>>49315891
If you're NA I'll play you. I need to practice this matchup more.

botan NA bo5
81F5DC47

>>49316771
full

>>49308528
> Previous thread sends to 2 threads ago

How are you all this bad at making ops

>>49316771
ggs

>>49317023
room's open again if you wanted to join

>>49317304
ggs
i closed the room

>>49316630
Sure if you make the lobby.

>>49317348
84F8CCB9
If you're the Aki bro from yesterday please go all out

Tell me about the dog girl. Why does she shoot fingers

>>49317380
I think I am.
I'm literally a Touhou in real life so it's hard for me to have yaruki. No promises.

i refuse to use assists

>>49317999
Why?

>>49318022
there's enough poop and sewage in this cereal as it is

That was my last match if you're the singsong girl. I've become very proficient at exiting this game out the moment KO appears on the screen.

>>49318092
I feel like that's just giving yourself a handicap for no reason but everyone enjoys things differently, you do you anon. GGs.

Just add Luna devs i need this

>>49318141
As an Aki player I think she shouldn't even be allowed to have assists.

>>49318212
Sure but I think there was this one unblockable setup some Aki player did to me with Marine where she had me in a blockstring and there was a gap into 5M where if I stay grounded, Marine would hit and Aki could confirm into a full combo off of that. If I jumped, Aki would catch with 5M so the only thing I could do there would be mash reversal super if I had enough meter.

It's bullshit yes but it's still a very interesting setup.

>Player 1 collabs with
Sorry, unicorns, every single one of your oshis has collabed with males now.

>>49309111
trips of DECEIT
she is my wife

>>49318287
I think you can jump block in that situation. Jumping avoids the grab lunge and 5M is air blockable (probably).
That setup also isn't exclusive to Aki. Pretty much any character can take advantage of it. Fubuki probably does it best though because of her instant overhead and crossup.

>>49318196
She'd suck

>>49318428
5M is air unblockable.
I think there were also moments where her 3H sweep was also air unblockable.

>>49318458
She would be Ayame tier to make it easy for spics to play in bad wifi

>>49318459
>5M is air unblockable.
what the fuck, man
all i gotta do is press a button
it's so easy to react to jump-ins with one button

do you think the devs were aware that making this game was going to open a pandora's box of every hololive fan demanding their oshi be in the game (and also every chuba asking to be in the game)?

>>49308528
>Sources reveal nadetachis are conspiring to force nade to stream fighting games so she can stay in the op
Please stop being a perfectionist autist and play some fightan on stream, nobody cares if you aren't at a pro level

>>49318700
yes

>>49308528
>now he wont get outshined by a better player who starts gosling for her.
I remember the guilty gear general losing their shit when Hotashi raided her

>Get my first Aki
>Clearly new at the character
>Shit on him so hard he leaves after one fight
Fucks sake, have more resilience

>>49318990
If he's anything like me he probably went straight to training mode because he kept fucking up combos during the match.

>>49319141
He fucked his fundies, I just unga bungad him with Ayame twice.

>>49319411
Oh lol then that's totally on him, yeah.
I love fighting Ayame she's hilarious. I laugh my ass off during matches because people tend to pilot her like unhinged nutcases and I imagine the person behind the controller screaming like a lunatic while doing 22M.

>>49318459
Why the fuck is that air unblockable? What the fuck...

>>49319562
Yeah that's literally me.

>>49318990
Not everything is a ragequit, you need to calm down

>>49318700
Playing to this will probably be key to the game's longevity beyond the first month honey moon.

>>49319929
I AM CALM
just a bit disappointed though, it's like a metal slime running

>>49319929
People assuming everything is a rage quit is part of why I tire playing fighters. I should just not give a fuck and take a break if I need to mentally or whatever. I even give people with infuriating connections rematches until they leave out of not wanting to look bad.

>>49320027
Are you still on? Wanna play? I want to experience your unga bunga Ayame - Slayer of Akis.

Mogu can't stop playing Idol Showdown
https://www.twitch.tv/mogu

>>49320752
literally who?

>>49320752
sounds cute, does she play fightan or just this

>>49320752
I played with her twice before. She's fun.

>>49321341
how strong would you say she is?

Coyo's back!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mxAjp5wKkg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0B0oTieh-qc

>>49321381
>Coyotachis decide to continue erping anyway

>>49321372
Maybe like one smidgen below the average line.

>>49321381
I'll try to watch her but I'm falling sleep right now
Is coyo living in japan? Cause if not the scheduling is going to be a bitch

>>49321381
Can she actually play idol showdown considering she's a JP corpo?

Is there a stage I'm missing or something? Or is the skybox only stage a result of one of the lower options in the settings menu?

>>49321463
Yeah, she lives in Japan but I believe her family lives in the US.

>>49321514
It's not like the Idol Showdown devs can issue a copyright strike if she streams it but I don't remember seeing of any JP corpo playing either IS nor Holocure so who knows.

>>49321752
Is there a way to send her marshmallows to ask her if she can play them?

>>49321856
She's a high 2view and her chat is pretty slow so you can just ask her.

>>49321880
I'm more of a lurker
Can't handle the anxiety of having the first words I ever speak to a chuuba I don't know if she is going to play a game and then disappear if she says no, specially one that would remember it

>>49320437
Oh sorry I was fighting a Korone all this time. It's pretty late and I gotta finish my reps. Tomorrow (today) if you have time I'll show you my sick first time Aki demolishing skillz.

Slow night, what are you watching/ playing?
Also, if you could add a character not from hololive to this game, who would you add, and why?
Hard mode: no vtubers,
Hardest: no fighting game characters

>>49322633
>Also, if you could add a character not from hololive to this game, who would you add, and why?
Landorus Therian
To have another balance lion.

>>49322633
Yagoo

>>49322633
Are fighting games idol activities

>>49323001
It is now

>>49321962
Get some balls lmao

>>49321738
Unlocked by clearing virtual frontier with the gladiator chains item

>>49323320
What do you get from clearing that?

>>49322633
>watching:
skip to loafer
>playing
not fighting games unfortunately even though i want to get better at them and play more consistently especially after being away from them for awhileplayed a match of dota 2 instead

>>49321856
She's doing a marshmallow reading stream on the 14th, so yeah: https://marshmallow-qa.com/coyote_kemov
She and Shimahai collabed with Fubuki and Matsuri once so maybe the companies have good enough relations that if she asked they wouldn't mind

Is there a follow up for Ayame 214 L/M/H?

>>49312042
i'll be honest i've given up playing due to the current state of the characters. any time the game is not Aki vs Aki it feels like a waste of everybody's time, but playing Aki doesn't exactly feel like an accomplishment either.

>>49323946
alt + f4

>>49323946
Not really.

>>49324124
Seems a waste of meter doing the H, also you can interrupt it.

>>49323946
on juggle yes, do it again lol
from neutral no, Ayame would be far too cute if she was allowed to spend meter and 214H against zoning and actually be rewarded for it.

>>49323946
On counter you get enough hitstun to combo but only on counter
>>49324181
Ex version has projectile invulnerability iirc and travels farthest

>>49324238
>On counter
What's follow up? L?

>>49324286
I think you have enough time for 2m but I usually panic when I hit with counter so I just do 5l. There should also be a unique soundbyte for counter since in the heat of the moment you wouldn't even know if the hit was a counter or a punish which makes it harder to confirms.

ECB2695E
Any EU gamers?

What is up with this game and getting 22 off of any random sequence, but not doing it when I do 22 actually? I can't believe how long can be between 2s and it still does it even with other directions. Good lord low blocking, going to neutral for any reason, then trying to do a low normal. Am I the only one?

>>49325479
It happens to me too sometimes. I don't know why but it feels like 22 inputs are prioritized. It really sucks if you're trying to get out a 236 input out on block instantly.

>>49325358
I'm in the room

>>49325479
There's actually down side with simple input like 22 and why it doesn't exist in much tradition fighting game. I rather then fighting have have the standard qcf,qbf, dp, and eve half circle forward/back and spd but with generous input and input buffer rather than dealing with 22 input

>>49325358
GG, gonna watch Mel's live now.

>>49325358
GGS
Wow I never got such ping even with SA countries.

>>49326185
9951C472
EU please.

Damn. The misread inputs into 22s irritated me enough. This is enough for tonight. This is getting better right? Known when you've had enough so you don't sour the fun you did have?

>>49318872
Keep your fingers crossed!

Shuba playing in 30 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZteRLDxg8g

>>49327567
How do you get into shuba's room quickly?

>>49328232
I remember the room number being typed in the upper corner. But I didn't risk joining because the online's shaky and I'm too far away.

Balance changes I would do
>make aki's mukirose range summon a big negative so you can't chain to it
>botan's M and H attacks no longer push her forward.
>reduce ayame's max hp by 25%

why tf is everyone so good at the game, are there no newfags playing this shit?

>>49329392
all of them just play the single player modes

Coco looks really good in those Melody colors.

Shuba having fun

Subaru vs Fubuki
https://twitter.com/jiyunaJP/status/1547020436096987137

>>49313120
Speaking of that i have seen shimada in Coyo ques before, same as in Rie.
Seems logical the only three fighting corpos know each other already

>>49308528
So can we finally agree that Aki was slept on? Just like i told you all three days ago? Good Aki will make you lose your fucking mind.

>>49330509
I've just been saying I couldn't judge her because I never played against one. And I still haven't because for some reason this character is rare as fuck despite being so strong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5csZtxVj01c
Kazunoko is playing Sora

>>49329185
Extremely boring changes my man.
Gimping one good way (unsafe) Aki can start a combo. Making Botan play just like everyone else. And HP is the least of Ayame's problems.

>>49330544
Country?

>>49330627
I'm in the US. I've fought against multiples of every character except Sora. I've only seen one of her.

>>49330509
Aki was already common with Asia players, especially JP. How do you counter her 216M (mukirose from above) into teleport? I only have human reflexes.

>>49330798
214M rather

>>49330798
Too far away, sorry. 200+ ping isn't fun.
>>49330798
Don't get knocked down.

>>49330881
Fuck. "too far away" meant for >>49330655

UPDATE IS OUT

>>49330964
Changelist?

>>49330964
You can't just post this without posting the patch notes.

>>49330964
You got the patchnotes? phoneposting rn sorry

>>49331000
I don't see a changelist yet. But there is a beta frame advantage thing now along with hitstun. Grab combos still work at least.

>>49331042
>beta frame advantage thing
What's that

>>49331086
You can see how plus or minus actions are in training mode now.

Patch 1.1.0

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1742020/view/6687326876671525147?l=english

>>49330544
It's not that she's "strong". It's just that if you let her run her game on you - you won't get to play.

>no balance changes yet
fuck we're just gonna have to deal with more aki bullshit until the next patch

this stops the unblockable reset though right?

>>49331197
t. Ayame main

>>49331194
I mean, you can argue that for someone like Suisei or Coco too. If they get started, you're basically done for. The difference is Aki can do that from any range as well as having projectiles.

>>49331263
Yes, but pressuring Aki is way easier. Her normals may be good, but their priority is garbage.

>>49331107
>Lobbies - Added ability to assign a tag to a Lobby
I don't see any tags on lobbies nor a way to add one or filter by tags.

>>49331298
>try to pressure aki
>get a hit in
>lmao aki actually was summoning muki from above
>get interrupted because for some ungodly reason muki doesn't go away when aki gets hit
>get comboed and now you have to play touhou again just to hope to get a hit in

>two updates

>>49331377
Just tick throw her my man.

>>49331107
It's gone now

>>49331298
Suisei isn't much harder to pressure. The only difference is having a frame 5 instead of a frame 6 button, but the range on the crouching one is extremely questionable and using the standing one is just asking to whiff on crouchers. Coco is sort of unique because she has a frame 4 punish, but she's easier to pressure just by staying a certain distance from the corner and poking her to death.

>Fixed a bug with one of Coco's moves
>it's technically worse now
Epic

>>49331971
What bug?

>>49332170
There was a bug with 22H where it sent them flying across the screen apparently. It was supposed to leave them near you, but now that it's fixed you can't use 22H to start SC cancel combos anymore.

How long is Virtual Frontier?

new update gives invincible frames after air teching
it breaks one of my combos now which sucks

>>49331340
Looks like they fixed it with another update just now.

Update Version 1.1.1

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1742020/view/6687326876671688758

>>49308528
remember this for next op

>>49310515
This shit is driving me insane. It doesn't matter where on P2 side you do this, the first hit will whiff.

Side comparison: https://files.catbox.moe/1kymzo.webm

I shouldn't use this move

>>49335849

>>49335093
Crazy to see that we have 2 variations of this

God, i love playing as Aki. Have fun getting comboed after punishing me for 3H you blocked because i cancelled it into M Muki.
I love kusoge.

Have the devs talked about the wonky input reading, or are they just not going to fix it? It seems that 22 inputs don't register if you do them too quickly, and 236/214 inputs come out seemingly randomly if you were holding down-back to begin with.

Am I tripping or does Ayame looks like she has veiny thighs?

>>49339037
kek

>>49339037
Anon...

>splitting up lobbies more when they're already hard to find in search
retards

>- Fixed issue where normal could deal chip damage
Good night sweet prince

>see some youtuber playing idolshowdown
>check some comments
>dEv hErE!
>another youtuber
>DeV HeRe!
Why are they like this?

Hey guys! Good morning!

>>49335093
>>49336801
I'll put them both!

good lord this update was horrible, it was fun while it lasted

>>49339585
>splitting up lobbies more when they're already hard to find in search
It's literally the same except you can filter even further if you want, it's a good bandaid attempt at separating skill levels without having matchmaking.

>>49341316
Which part?

>>49341316
What do you mean?

>foobs fireball can extend combos now
Good update

which streamer is good to check the new update?

Are there any Sora players here? Can you upload a video or webm or something of her good BnB combos? I want to try learning her.
I learn a lot better from seeing the combo play out and parsing it that way instead of written notation.

>>49342296
Use the twitter tags

>>49342514
I don't use twitter.

New Ayame tech. Pick anybody else.

>>49342091
I think WoolieVS will in an hour or two

>>49340310
Indie devs like hearing the live feedback or reactions of content creators.

>>49340310
figsisters, i can't believe they watch streams. grim.
its only us weirdos that like being anonymous most people like a bit of attention

>Korone 5M no longer does chip
Why...

>>49342721
His schedule says 3 pm Eastern.

>>49332469
Not long, just three stages.

That Subaru stream was pretty fun, I hope she gets sweatier in online play the next time she streams it. Maybe even go a few rounds vs Fubuki.

>>49341505
Just going to result in people not knowing why they can't find any rooms then quitting.

>>49342091
>>49342721
Woolie's stream started if you wanna check it out.
https://www.twitch.tv/woolieversus

>>49322472
Post lobby whenever you're up to play. I'll be lurking this thread the rest of today.

>>49346916
F6511B71 don't be gentle, I wanna learn this matchup.

>>49341316
Shut the fuck up with the dramatics.

>>49347379
Oh wow that was quick, didn't expect that. Joining now but it might be a short set because I want to watch that Woolie stream.
We can play after too.

>Suisei
>Standing Medium - Resolved bug where Hitstun and Blockstun could be very inconsistent.
Thank fucking god

>It's a consistent -2 now
O-oh
This is honestly fine, this is way better than the previous -9 or so on crouchers, and it's short enough where it can still sometimes be used for resets

>>49346085
He's dying lol

WHAT YOUR MAIN SAYS ABOUT YOUR SEXUALITY:
>HETEROSEXUAL
Ayame
Sora
Fubuki
>BISEXUAL
Korone
Suisei
Coco
>HOMOSEXUAL
Botan
Aki

>>49349138
Pekora...

>>49335093
>>49336801
Needs a variation with characters from the game

>>49349138
Please take that back about korone..

>>49347612
GGs mate. I needed this experience.
It's definitely different than watching it.
Any pointers on what I should do better?

Did Masoma ever use Suisei's 22S cancel in the tourney?

>>49349591
GGs anon that was fun. I'm not an Ayame main but I can tell you how some of them were able to beat me. Sometimes they only do one hit of recca into more pressure. The recca itself is a mixup. I also see a lot of them do staggered jabs while walking up for more pressure into their crazy blockstrings.
During all those matches I was constantly terrified of you cancelling unsafe stuff into 22x which you were doing well. I guess try to go ham and do it more often. As Ayame you can definitely get away with it. You also knew when to go for grab but I guess after her demon flip I can punish with my own grab.

Oh and also don't forget about her ghosts. That move is crazy good.

In general though you should block more on wakeup. I was also throwing out Aki's 5 and 6M to catch your random Demon Flips so try to be wary of when to use it. Also most Aki's will do her teleport way more often than I did so that's another thing to be wary of. It is reactable but it's hard.

We both would have played better if it weren't for the 200 ping though.

>>49346085
>Kiara can reflect Kanata's Soran Bushi
Oh

>>49349906
Cheers. Thanks for the practice.
I need to work on using my ghosts more often, I usually use them on oki, but I seldom had the chance to use them vs you.

God they love it

>>49351944
It does appear the general consensus is "why is this so legit"

>>49349138
wtf but i like botin

>>49352382
It's a buggy unbalanced mess, it just happens to be a functioning fangame.

>>49352430
Y r u gey?

>>49352475
At this point I consider the balance to be "everything's broken" and roll with it

So whats the qrd on additional characters? Any immedieate plans, they planning on adding a lot more or just enough to pad out the roster?

>woolie got his ass kicked as aki
It's kind of interesting that she's unintuitive to just pick up and play and make cool stuff happen.

>>49352532
It happened when I became a sapling, idk

You can combo after Coco's dinosaur?

>>49352601
We know 3 more characters are coming. One of which is all but confirmed to be Pekora

WoolieVS about to play online

>>49352601
Flare will be added but her moveset is using bows

>>49353160
yeah but the retard is just appearing in search so anyone in the world can join
how does someone get something so simple wrong

>>49352601
https://youtu.be/lkcTeZyknQg?t=61

About to watch the calliope m*ri and watame collab, what should I expect

So lads, what'd you think about the new lobby tags? You always get to fight against competent players while newbs can go mash in a safespace elsewhere. Simple but pretty cool right?
What about tech invul? You can just go dumb and tech anyhow you want without considering what your opponent might be up to. There's other ways to remove guaranteed unblockable setups while leaving in recovery mindgames. But yay, no more guaranteed setups!
At least, this proves the devs are ready to address balance complaints as long as no one is nerfed directly. So no, don't expect real nerfs. Time to start tierwhoring if you were already considering.
Right, almost forgot. Frame data was it? Is it good? Forgot about the lab today.

never realized roberu is in the single player mode as an NPC since I've just been playing training/multiplayer modes, thats super cool. I heard theres tempus items too

>>49354917
dev hands wrote this post

>>49352732
You can plug their asshole then, if you have a superchat cancel, cancel into oi, oi, Oi. My execution is not good enough to see if you can cancel into anything after that though.

>>49355333
100%

Does every characters have 2 coco memes or just foobyk?

>>49355516
Pekora has 3

>>49355638
I wish I could play with Pekora already.

Is the dev japanese or just an actual pre-EN fan?
I just assumed after i saw holocure there would be way more of an EN focus on any fangame made by westerners

Sorry, but I need to hit my daily quota of marine faps, ggs

>>49355991
holocure was made to cater EN because it was easy to gain mindshare, look at those fan games made to cater JP...

>>49356181
mindshare?

>>49356223
popularity i mean camping /#/ to see news fried my brain

>>49356181
>look at those fan games made to cater JP...
what do you mean by this? every other fangame besides holocure and this looks pretty bad

>>49356431
but nuinuiquest is good tho...

>>49356501
oh I've literally never seen this until now, looks good

>>49356431
the councilrys rpg is pretty cute and nuinui quest is pretty okay

>>49352601
It's just 3. A dev confirmed on Koe's chat when they were talking about Miko as a potential character that anyone who's an assist won't be playable for a while, if at all. The future's shaky if they add more after the initial 3, something about being able to get the proper funds.

>>49354917
Tags are cool but please make the prematch ping detection better and add a way to filter by tags.
Now that the secret strat>exit quit tech doesn't work online anymore it's hell. I have to sit through a full 200ms ping laggy match that was announced to me as a 2 estimated ping for some reason.
That's not cute

>>49355376
Plug can SC cancel into the weak fire breath but the timing is really tight and the reward kinda sucks.

>>49356765
Anybody that thought it would be otherwise is a fool. It was obvious they put assists in, in order to get more representation. It also took them 2 years in order to release 8 characters. There is no way for them to go further unless they have an internal change

>>49357261
plug on its own its plenty weak, other fast characters can hit you back on a successful hit, meaning that you get punished for using your buttons, so you're better not using it and taking the knockdown to stuff their wakeup lest you get put on the backfoot for completing your combo

>>49357418
To be fair, those years also consisted of stages, the hefty single player, and online. But I get what you mean, it's unlikely for them to make it past 3 chars, they're doing this without any real funding.

I just realized Aki has Anpontan skins

What assists would you guys like to see?
For me Shion
>Kusogakick
She zooms across the screen from the air diagonally down
>4ねソード
In my head it'd be an anti air where she swings her Minecraft sword and lights the enemy on fire, could be anything else using the sword though.

>>49358161
>like ayame playstyle the most
>get called a brazilian button masher, doged
>switch to Aki because of luna's skin
>now it turns it's op

Can't catch a break naaaaaaaaaa

>>49357261
>>49358069
I think I actually hate this game.

>>49358384
>never played a fighting game seriously before
>Sora's my oshi
>set play character
>fucking dies to Aki
It could be worse

Who is bottom tier

>>49358520
Anyone who isn't Aki or Botan

>>49358069
It depends. It is -3 but you can't get hit back unless you trigger the infinite protection. And it's worth using if it'll get you the kill, or if you have 2 bars to threaten people trying to press a button against it.

>>49354917
I just leave myself on No Rank. If I wanted to seek out good players I'd enter a tournament.

>>49358585
or Suisei or Ayame

>>49358384
Come home Ayameman

Idol Showdown dies next week when the street fighter 6 open beta comes out.
Enjoy quick matchmaking while you can.

>>49358384
Make them die to the Ayame they hate so much.

>>49355991
there are people from all over, looking at the credits, including nips.

>>49347913
how do you even reset with stM after the air tech update?

Slow night
What are you guys watching?
Do you guys think anyone will make a NIJI vs Hololive next?
What mixups could be good?
Marvel vs Hololive?

>>49364388
>What are you guys watching?
Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha Detonation
>Do you guys think anyone will make a NIJI vs Hololive next?
This game might've inspired people to make all sorts of shit so who knows.
>What mixups could be good?
fullscreen teleport behind you lol
>Marvel vs Hololive?
I want a Vocaloid fighting game now.

Is there any way to punish Coco's, Aki's or Botan's sweeps? Also, why is Fubuki's sweep allowed to be so dogshit? It is so short it may as well be a useless low attack

>>49363146
Reset your blockstring I mean

>>49358433
welcome to fighters

>>49364579
>Coco
I assume you play Fubuki? You can probably punish it with any tatsu if it goes through her fire.
>Aki
You don't.

>>49364580
>I want a Vocaloid fighting game now.
oh fuck me too

>>49364668
>I assume you play Fubuki?
Yea it's my day 3...
>Aki
>You don't.
I hate it here, bro.

>>49364579
Coco depends on spacing. It's -13, if used well it's not punishable because it pushes you too far away. But only if used by the tip of its range. Botan can only cancel sweep into specials. Her meterless specials leave a large gap for you to punish, you mainly have to worry about her cancelling into the shopping cart.

>>49364388
>watching
konosuba megumin spinoff
>niji x hololive
may happen but tribalism is so fucking high right now especially outside the board with anykara black company shit spreading so far that no team might want to associate themselves with niji
>mixups ideas
>sui oki 213h into j.5l or 2m is a true mix, if you have mio support then you can do a blockstring that leaves you close to your opponent to j.5l > 213s and you can combo from there
>holo vs marvel
holo x my cock first

I take it back, Ayame's demon flip should be an overhead if Suisei's bullshit axe is one.

>join match tagged as casual
>it's an aki player
I dcd after the hidden teleport into a 20 hit combo.

Why did they remove opening the menu in-game? If they're gonna do this, at least tell me the region of players joining my lobby. It sucks being stuck with 500 ping connections for a whole match, let me quit.

>>49365821
Oh it's not just me?

>>49365413
Can Ayame not do anything after her flip without meter? Suisei needs superchat cancel, and it's also extremely unsafe on block, is Ayame's too?
If hers works exactly like Suisei's in anything but overhead, then yeah, it should. Otherwise no.
I do think Suisei is the best character in the game, people are sleeping on her with the Aki hype, but Ayame is already way too braindead. Not the strongest character at all, but 100% the low IQ pick. It's this game's Brazilian Ken. She doesn't need to get any dumber.

>>49364388
>What are you guys watching?
Ame playing ToTK
>Do you guys think anyone will make a NIJI vs Hololive next?
Niji already struggles to get fan games, Niji v Holo feels unlikely.
>What mixups could be good?
Just mob a dude round start with assist+Muki+Teleport
>Marvel vs Hololive?
How about Touhou vs Hololive?

>>49365909
>I do think Suisei is the best character in the game
Far from it, all the meta picks outrange her so you get easily pressured even though you need space to get in although it is fun to catch people midair.

>>49366159
Maybe I'm not fighting good enough Aki and Botan players, but she feels stupidly strong to me. And that's after the tech/IPS changes done earlier, before that she was straight up broken.

>>49365909
It depends on Ayame's flip type. Jumping one is always unsafe on block. The grounded one is safer and gets combos into her lights but it depends on spacing. But trust me, you do not want Ayame's flips to be overhead. This shit is frame 17. Suisei's overheads are much more reactable, with the grounded one being frame 23 and the the air one is frame 26. The only dumb thing is that the aerial version is plus as fuck for some ungodly reason.

>>49366275
There aren't very many Aki players and a lot of Botans kind of flowchart. Suisei isn't bad but her neutral is pretty limited. She's a snowball offensive character, when her game plan is going she feels busted but the hard part is getting going in the first place.

>>49366275
Guaranteed tech traps were not remotely unique to Suisei.

>>49308528
https://youtu.be/vtoDCmvN_5M
Can we also add this to the How do I git gud section of the OP?
Understanding how to manage your mental load while playing is not only good for beginners, but I think it's something that will make beginners into intermediates and intermediates into advanced players.

>>49366474
It might be the Suisei I was playing against was doing bad blockstrings, but it's generally possible to just AA the thing for a combo. I was mostly getting hit because I set my brain to just "2B the overhead" and I'd react when 6H came out. In any event if you need a high blockstun move to keep it from being interrupted then you know when you need to block high anyways.

>>49366476
Naturally, but her IPS loop would cost one meter that she builds during the loop. It was only escapable through burst. It was so fucking dirty that I refused to use it more than once even before the patch, I would only use it as a regular reset, not an inescapable loop.
The tech traps I'm a bit split on. Some of the tech traps were too strong, but they were too strong because of the "air unblockable" property of anti airs, it feels like they're throwing the baby out with the bathwater by simply killing any sort of air reset at all with the invulnerability. I do think it's better for the game overall, but I can't say I'm happy to see air resets completely gone.
and by the way, devs, please hide the mouse cursor when the game is open, it's so annoying.

>>49365821
I think there was a bug where the game wouldn't let you unpause if you paused during a game. I guess this is their way to temporarily fix that problem.

>>49366713
Oh, if it's temporary that's totally understandable. I thought they were going the esports route and trying to stop players from accidentally pausing and losing a round or whatever.

>>49365909
>I do think Suisei is the best character in the game
Me too. There are actually no opening in her pressure and the ways you get opened up are completely unreactable and also plus on bloc. You can't observe and counterattack you have to take risks on defense when it should be the other way around.

>>49366633
I'd think there's a more elegant way to do it but this keeps the game from devolving into corner infinites for now. Just making IPS prevention only make you unhittable instead of force teching would probably do enough.

>>49364579
>Coco
Her tail is her hurtbox, just hit it with anything, especially if you have any disjoint

what the fuck...

>>49366608
One weird thing is that I think her 5H, the axe swing, you can interrupt if it's used in a blockstring. But it's inconsistent. A lot of Suisei players use 5H in their blockstrings because they don't know, and that's surprisingly punishable. Her biggest annoyance is more of the one bar projectile super. Without that her blockstrings are still kind of annoying but a lot more flawed than they seem.

>>49367332
6H also has some weird shit where you can crouch on hit and block the followup, but if you don't the combo doesn't drop. she's a little funky like that.

>>49367332
That was because 5M>5H didn't even combo when 5M felt like being -9, they didn't know because the other 50% of the time it was a super tight block string.

>>49309223
I'm surprised to see her name brought up here.
She played some Melty Blood but stopped because it was too much of a time investment for her schedule, and she didn't like how quickly games' popularity died out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkcXIps32kI
If you watched he tournament yesterday

>>49366474
Ayame's flips are all unsafe at -5, unless you space it at tip range and in that case it becomes -4, and you cannot combo out of it unless you get a counter. The move just kinda sucks and is only useful in some niche cases like catching dashes and backdashes to get the counterhit property but flip gets beat out by basically every button in the game which makes it even worse. There is almost no reason to use the move aside from being a combo ender from j.5m. Getting a hit isn't that rewarding, getting blocked loses you your turn or you get punished, the move has basically zero priority so any button beats it, it's only good on counterhit but because there is no sfx for counterhit so you have to guess if the hit you got was a counter or a punish. I have no idea why you retards were hating on Ayame when she's unironically one of the most honest characters in the game

>>49366474
>There aren't very many Aki players
Why? Isn't she supposed to be the best?

I bet this post wont trigger bump limit

>>49367741
Even the fixed 5M-5H has the problem. But I think I found out why now. I tried mashing against 5L-5M-5H as three characters. Fubuki, Botan and Coco. I held down back and mashed their fastest moves. Fubuki and Botan just get counterhit if they try to mash 5L or 2L against 5M-5H. Even Fubuki's 4H counter loses. But, for some reason Coco 2H mash beats the blockstring half of the time. The other half, you just stay blocking and don't get punished. And this is a frame 12 move, which makes it really weird. She can also beat it with 2L.

tldr: Coco's weird crouching hurtbox makes some blockstrings worse for some reason.

>>49368811
Yea, Coco has weird ass hurtbox on many of her moves and actually beat out some suisei's move due to hurtbox nuance rather than frame data.
That's why I always 3H and 2M a lot against coco to avoid those low profile move messing me up

IS would be a lot better game if I don't know, blocking worked. Small thing I know but really tickles my autism when I'm squeezing down back as hard as possible and just eat a low into a full combo and fucking die, hope somehow my minor personal issue somehow gets addressed.

>>49370434
I understand what you mean but it only happens to me against Ayame when I walk back for a fraction of a split-millisecond.

Black Fubuki is her only skin worth unlocking. I fought robots for nothing.

Botin isn't the type of character I usually play but she's so silly and fun that I think I'm going to try and stick with her as my main

>>49370700
Whats the best way to unlock alts? is it the single player stuff?

Can you imagine the earrape if Luna ever gets added?

>>49370641
The unfortunate reality is I can't absolutely confirm it isn't a d-pad thing, but having to use a d-pad because of the input reader would still remain the source of my troubles. Guess I have to try keyboard but I don't want to.

>>49370700
I'm really thankful Soramito is the versus skin.

hey guys page ten
anything you want added to the op?
board really fast today

>>49370917
benis

>>49370778
Virtual Frontier for 4th color
Versus for 5th color
Arcade for 6th color

>>49370700
Sion Suisei is great.

>>49370853
Trying to get Sora's OG skin is so ass when you have to do all of Virtual Frontier

>>49370917
change the tiermaker to the one with just the game's characters
https://tiermaker.com/create/idol-showdown-characters-86484