/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>49403380
Management is gonna Ban Hada now

>>49403440
fpbp

>>49403380
>That's what 1% does to you

Someone's about to earn some good old unwilling vacations!

>>49403440
GOTTEM

seriously though, what the fuck is going on at the company

>>49403380
huh i thought she graduated and joined vspo

>>49403380
>going on a full menhera rant instead of ignoring it like a certain other chuuba that doesn't stream
ngmi

>>49403380
Breaking News: Ban Hada has just come down with interdeterminate sickness and will be on a break for a month!

>>49403380
Jesus......where is the anime roleplay part for vtubers?

RIP Ame 2

>>49403440
Ban is an overstatement. 0.5% treatment.

Honestly I forgot she existed. She's on break more than she streams

who the fuck is ban hada

>>49403380
What is it with gooks being the least willing to make this their full time job?

>>49403380
Sound like the same faggot /here/ who pressure other to stream eventhough that not primarily their job description, hmmm.

>>49403380
gura probably sperg out like this if she was not a hololive member.

>>49403380
This is what amateurs look like. A pro with handle this situation differently. But niji never pay them as pros

>>49403380
another woman fails to ignore negativity once again. all she is doing is putting bait out for the trolls. welcome to the internet

>>49403380
Jesus christ remember when Miori auditioned for Ban Hada's character? Imagine if she got the role instead nothing will change because they're both menhera

>>49403380
Maybe she would be motivated to stream more if she didn't get 1$ per stream

>>49403682
Because streaming doesn't necessarily have to be a full-time thing (cause that is a personal decision).

Some would see streaming as a professional thing.
Others would see streaming as a hobby (or secondary gig)

Different strokes for different folks, simply put

Hada always struck me as chill what the fuck happened here

>>49403506
KR is in a similar situation that ID is in where they only have one manager for the whole group and the company is secretly hoping they just graduate.

Reminder that Ban Hada streams, and has been, streaming perfectly fine on her roommate account

She's just a bitch

>>49403917
>implying she gets paid in money
Exposure baby

>>49403380
>nijisanji fans harass their talents for the 100th time
Awesome, why do they love anycolor so much but hate the talents?

>>49403947
People have been bothering her. Can you not read?

>>49404000
anon says while yet again never showing proof

>>49403972
Ok, that makes a lot more sense as to why she doesn’t feel pressured to stream and just coast off of memberships. But this meltdown is still pretty weird, especially the passive comments like
>can you believe it
>you don’t know me like that lol

>>49404139
>spoonfeed AND get banned for me bro!
kys

>>49404181
Talking about roommate shit is already a bannable offence so you might as well go all the way.

>>49404181
>I'm going to post my rrat every time I see her mentioned, eventually someone will believe it!

>>49403945
So? Why just the gooks, then? Anyone else can come to the same conclusion.

>>49403380
>Streamer is barely streaming
>Fans: "Why are you not streaming?"
>"STOP HARASSING ME AND RELEASING YOUR ANGER ON ME I'M NOT YOUR EMOTIONAL TRASH CAN"

>>49404218
If it was both the coco and rushia generals would never exist.

>>49404226
Bro if you need to be spoonfed a Niji's rm account you're ngmi

Who? Any anon /here/ to spoonfeed us

>>49403682
Being a successful streamer in Korea basically requires you to either be a smoking hot fleshie or extremely good at one of a very limited selection of games.

>>49404218
That shit is only really bannable if you talk about someone that janny/mod actually knows or cares about.

>>49403380
>1% doesn't even pay for menhera treatment
lol, lmao even

>>49403380
>Part time streaming
>No dedication
>No plans to go full time
Why stream then? Seems weird to offload personal issues on her viewers.

>>49404678
You are a human being. You make the mistake of joining a black company, what do you do:
>Waste your time working literal slave labor in a chinese sweatshop for pennies
or
>Do anything else

>>49403380
>Full-time job
They must be paying her well over at Nijisanji

>>49403380
tldr? I'm not reading all of this

>>49404729
Even then. It's literally your issue. You don't need to rub it into readers. Can't they graduate peacefully?

>>49404241
Why are women like this?

>>49404678
some people want to be normal and just stream after work for fun

>>49403380
Why isn't she as popular as Ina?

>ban hada
who the fuck?

>>49404139
trips of truth

>>49404839
Why would you need to graduate? There is no requirement that you stream full time to be a members of Nijisanji I would hazard a guess without looking at numbers that at least half of them don't.

>>49403380
Mentally weak.
Aia works a full time job, streams on a regular basis for at least 2-3 hours, only complains about her computer or internet messing up, knows she is an eternal 3view, and her chat loves her.

>>49403543
True. And that other chuuba must've been experiencing at least 10x what this bitch had experienced

hada was one of the only korean vtubers i saw debut along with seffyna and mia
I’m going to be sad when management kills her...

>>49403380
Hey Hada, this ain't it. Saying this isn't you being aggressive doesn't make it true. If Maros are getting to you, yes close them. But sperging publicly about doing it is a bad look.

>>49405269
I watched her debut and watched her quite a bit and honestly I wont be all that sad anymore. With how she has streamed so little for so long its not as if much will have changed.

>>49403708
>anon thinks you need a tardwrangling management to be a decent human being
KEK

>>49403380
>Thank you for investing your time in me, a corporate streamer with expectations
>This is uhm just like a side thing though so fuck off if you're invested
I would give her a pass if this was some indie or if she emphasized being back with her fans soon, but it was all about how her own life matters, she shouldn't have become a vtuber and disappoint the few idiots who thought she would actually have some pride about herself.
I hope her fans find someone worth their time one day.

>>49403557
Don't be ridiculous. As long as she doesn't say disparaging comments about baseball, she's fine.

Time for a family vacation

>>49403440
and nothing of value was lost

>>49405339
I don't know if I would call what Gura does being a decent human being. Giving hundreds of thousands of fans a repeated cycle of getting their hopes up that you will start delivering content only to come back and be active for a few streams and then disappear again.

>>49405359
Counterargument: 1%

>>49403708
True brother. That's why Mori and Kronii's yab never happened. Oh...

>>49403508
That was the other Korean vtuber, Nun Bora.

Niji management is a personification of this board when it comes to JP vs everyone else, except unironically.

>>49405359
it's mental stress caused by financial stress, a typical symptom of being the bottom 1%

>>49405359
>expectations
nooo you have to stream the way that i want you to!

>>49403380
"touch some grass" kittaaa!

>>49403665
Better question:
Who is gonna ban Hada?

>>49403380
If this board is any measure of anonymous calls for someone to stream again, she doesn't seem to understand she's not even addressing her fans. Her menhara breakdown says a lot about her though

>>49405180
all those... 200 ppl love her

>>49404324
Korean Niji vtuber with very low ccv who basically gave up.
Mostly known on this board for playing Apex with Selen back in the days and also that one time when Veibae rejected her friend request live on stream

>>49403380
God I wish Gura would do this same thing on twitter.

>>49405454
>getting their hopes up
Link the last time she did that. She's made a conscious effort not to do that anymore. She already said she's doing the best she can with where she's at. But when she shows up, she actually shows up. No lectures. No whining. Take it or leave it.

>>49405454
>changing the goal post to streaming
our discussion is about a streamer having a menhera episode because of fan complaints vs Gura who probably experienced the same kind of complaints, only x100, but still never had a menhera episode, equals her being a decent human being

But to reply to your issue with Gura, she already addressed that at least 3x, she has a medical issue and can't stream as much, that's why she called it ''new normal''

>>49405839
200 is a lot, anon

>>49403682
Unless you're super big like Mito/Kuzuha tier you're not supposed to make this your full time gig

Why are australians like this?

>>49403380
Are we all just going to ignore the elephant in the room here?
>chuuba from the 2nd biggest corpo in the world
>doesn't make enough from Niji to make this her full time job (she also said "unfortunately", so if she could she definitely would)

Isn't that a big condemnation? Even the lowest-paid chuubas in Holo make full-time job money. How little do Nijis get paid???

>>49406128 (Me)
Fucking Roboco, who historically has had some of the lowest numbers among JPs, bought a house recently.

>>49405931
>>49405981
Even if you think that she isn't doing that anymore she still did it for years. This girl at least is making her position clear, being honest and telling anyone who has those kind of expectations of her ever being a full time streamer to just give up because its not going to happen.

>>49406128
Nijifags are proud of this, not sure what you mean. They like that Niji is a survival of the fittest corpo, it’s just the newfags that NijiEN brought in who expected Hololive standards that get upset.

>>49406128
2.343% of merch (nijiKR has no merch)
2% of superchats/membership money (she barely gets any)
2% of streamelements (barely gets any)
0$ salary (livers dont have a salary)

>>49403380
Niji don't deserve my adorable dork

>>49406178
Years with an S? So since debut? What is there to talk about when you're this dishonest?

>>49406128
No anon you don't understand. Actually them getting 1% of merch sales means they are actually earning MORE than hololive talents! I saw some math done by a twitter vtuber reporter and he says that actually Niji talents earn like double what hololive talents earn! So actually she's really rich lol

>>49405624
"nooo you have to stream the way that i want you to!"
Those kind of people are cringe.
They are like some spoiled entitled sore loser

>>49406169
Any illusions that hada may have had that she could reliably bank on the streaming gig were destroyed when NijiKR got axed.
I dont think her numbers are that bad that she cant live off it, but she probably feels she has no job security with Niji and she‘d rather have a normal job to fall back on

>>49406342
Big if true.

>>49406256
No meme, this is actual black company shit.

>>49406256
Slaves make more money, as expected from a black company

>>49406089
Why so? Sure you won't make a bank and guarantee a future like those you mentioned, but most wouldn't earn more outside of streaming anyway. As long as you can pay the bills they're happy doing what they like

>>49406395
And on top of the shit pay you get internal politics and shit management.
In the oversea branches at least, maybe JP doesn't have as many issues. I can't imagine people like Mito taking any shit from anyone.

>>49406395
But it is a meme? We know they get better percentages than that on other stuff.
Voice packs are 50% and NijiEN members say the streamlabs is the same split so thats 50%, if they get 50% on streamlabs donos they probably get 50% on youtube too, it would be weird to give a better percentage only on streamlabs, so thats 35% after youtube takes their cut on income through youtube like superchats.

>>49406469
I can only imagine it has to be the case that JP just has way, WAY higher standards for how they treat their chuubas. Otherwise, VShojoJP unironically could overtake them in the future.

>>49406521
do you have a single fact to back your claims up

>>49406256
If that's true then that is actually fucking pathetic, why the hell are their ID and KR livers still with them?

>entire thread is schizos patting themselves in the back for not watching le evil nijisanji
The karma of your misdeeds will strike back with force and you will be paid in the blood you shed.

>>49406521
>it would be weird to give a better percentage only on streamlabs
The streamlabs cut is way smaller. It's not that they get a better percentage but that the value being split with nijisanji is bigger

>>49406570
Anycolor have publicly stated the percentage cut that members get of voicepacks. And like I said members like Pomu and Maria have said streamlabs are equal to voice packs in how much they get from it.

>>49406579
Did you forget how they killed the branch, stopped all support, there wont be any new waves and they dont give a fuck if they graduate?

>>49406256
>>49406395
>>49406417l
>>49406579
merch and salary are only the correct ones. Voice packs and streamlabs are 50%, superchats and memberships are 35%. The only problem is Hada barely gets any of these

>>49406597
Members have outright said that streamlabs and voicepacks are equivalent. And Anycolor have publicly stated that they get 50% of voicepacks.

>>49406669
Yeah anon, but not because the company is good, they just offset the difference between YouTube and Streamlabs.

>>49406582
The way KR and ID have been treated is pretty evil tho. It seems management is actually trying to get them to graduate themselves instead of kicking them out.

>>49406582
I prefer the dharma, though.

>>49403380
Who the fuck is this
Did they shit out another gen while I wasn't looking?

>>49403380
I'm sorry, am I supposed to feel bad or something?
>YEAH I'M A TOTAL NORMALFAG AND I'M BETTER THAN JUST BEING A VTUBER SO LIKE UGH FUCK OFF LOSER
what a pissy little bitch

>>49406635
No I didn't forget, I mean why are there so many livers that are still with them even after the merge.
>>49406642
Those numbers seem more realistic. That merch cut is still egregious but it wouldn't affect the ID/KR branches much since they barely get them.

>>49406451
Because its unstable? JP branch are really big that plenty of their members have sponsors/are under music labels/have large external connections or even all of it at once, and unlike the other branches its been a long time they had issues of internal conflict or a member trying to backstab each other. Also I suspected that Niji's issues are strictly exclusive to their foreign branch's management being regarded instead of Nijisanji as a whole, because Meiro drama didn't get mishandled as bad as Zaion's

>>49404678
anon I understand you're a worthless leech who's probably living off of my tax dollars and doesn't have a job. So let me explain, normal people don't want to be in their computer 24/7. it makes you depressed both mentally and biologically since you lose out on the vitamins that you attain from sunlight. Not everyone who creates good content online is inside their house 24/7, hit the weights get a clue and take a shower.

>>49406469
Mito is literally their Sora, only that she was actually Superstar-tier during her hey day. There's a reason why Hajime thought she was going to be Kizuna Ai's rightful successor (even though he was dumb to have said it out loud). Nijisanji as a whole and the concept of 2d avatars being the standard instead of full 3d models doesn't take off without her. You bet your fucking ass that faggot Riku would sacrifice one of his yacht funds to keep her.

>>49404229
Cultural expectations. Korean parents/society ain't nothin' to fuck with.
>>49406169
Yeah for real she rakes in the equivalent of a 6 figure salary (before tax) just off memberships alone.

>>49406582
>all out war discord leak
>ethyria's jab at HoloEN
>nijiKR and ID fucking left for themselves to die
I can probably find at least 5-10 more of these where niji is shitting on holos behind the scenes. And you here talking about ''''karma'''''

>>49405359
i hate all you newfags who don’t know what nijisanji was before EN. there are members in JP that haven’t streamed in over a year, members who stream twice a month, or a few times a year. Before EN, it was known that nijisanji was nothing more to many of the members than just a hobby or a side job, and they allow you to do as so.

>>49403380
Damn, this must the most angry ban haha momment...

>>49406906
I would never say that that merch cut is justifiable, but it looks that bad because Nijisanji do all the work from designing to production to shipping, the talent only job is to shill them... While Holos have control over what merch they want, what design it would be, and even shoulder the production costs. That's why Holos get a much bigger cut, even bigger than Cover itself.

>>49403440
I'm happy this was the first post.

>>49407040
All I'm reading is that Nijisanji was shit before some people who actually fucking cared joined.

>>49403380
This gook has to work a regular job besides rarely streaming. Point and laugh!

>>49406942
Mito was instrumental in creating the streaming vtuber. Before iinchou vtubers just made premade short videos. 99% /vt/ are not aware that what they know as a 'vtuber' was all thanks to innchou.

>>49406128
For Aia's case it honestly seems like she's a workaholic or wants to keep her safety net. She has mentioned multiple times that she can live off what she makes from Nijisanji. However she does live with her parents so if she lived on her own it could be a different story.

>>49403380
>touch some g-ack!

>>49407195
You had your own choice on how you want to take your streaming career, some wanted it to be no more than a hobby, and others wanted to treat it as a full time job. either way, you aren’t punished for it.

>>49406940
>anon I understand you're a worthless leech who's probably living off of my tax dollars and doesn't have a job
Nice projection. I'm literally in the highest tax payer bracket. Your single mother and your life was likely sponsored by me.

back to the topic There are plenty of streamers who work/ed full time and streamers afterwards. She chose this, so why is she bitching about her viewers when the root cause is her mindset? Imagine biting a hand that feeds you simply because you can't control yourself.

>>49407040
I've always had that impression of Nijisanji desu. Only those who could consistently rake in several thousands of viewers and streamed often were doing it as a full-time job, the rest just do it as a hobby where they can talk to themselves while playing video games and make a bit of money out of it.

>>49407040
Anon this does not sound good. At all.

I'm not a saviorfag but even I think that if you're working for one of the largest vtuber corpos in the world, you should at least make enough money to pay your bills.

>>49407442
And a lot of people do, while others take a much more casual approach to it.

>>49407392
>Nice projection. I'm literally in the highest tax payer bracket. Your single mother and your life was likely sponsored by me.
struck a nerve huh, btw I'm part of MI6

>Ban Hada
I thought she graduated?

>>49407040
Theres a lot of just dumb motherfuckers here that think becoming a streamer is a soulbound contract that forces you to stream 5 days a week for the rest of your life.
It is actually scary how dumb some people are.

>>49403497
I understand why she wouldn't want streaming as a full-time job with that kind of cut. That, and the other reasons she listed

>>49407528
If people are complaining about lack of streams then there's plenty of other things you can do to remedy that.
This girl isn't Gura, she isn't interesting enough to get by with no streams.

>>49406469
The only times I remembered NijiJP had internal conflict was Meiro/Roa and Naruse/Kuzuha and those were years ago

>>49407235
I wonder if Kizuna Ai would have kept going strong if she wasn't screwed over by management. I don't think it's fair to put iincho's contribution to the biggest pioneer of the industry just because the content evolved

>>49404087
>harrass a member that is known to be a menhera in maros
>she goes menhera
>pretend it's the evil nijifans
Delightfully Devilish, Seymour.

A true woman moment

>>49407528
I think what most people are concerned about rn is the black company level of money that Niji livers geet paid, anon. Ban Hada here is literally saying she can't stream as often as she would like to because Niji doesn't make her enough money to live, so she has a second job.

>>49403380
>Watch other nijisanji livers

>>49403682
korean society is extremely harsh towards those who don't fit the mold, they will often treat you like a waste of oxygen even if you can pay your bills not doing what everyone expects you to do

>>49405180
I always wondered how come she couldn’t upgrade her computer… as a 3view she should be making more than enough, right? Heh.

>>49404087
keep in mind Hada has closed her maros before in response to getting non-stop messages from Koreans absolutely trashing her branch mates

>>49407721
Mate she streams like once every 2 months. If someone is making a living off of that then there really is a problem with the world.

>>49405620
More like a typical symptom of being a gook. It's like they incorporated all the most inhuman elements of burger, chink and jap culture for the ultimate suicide society.

>>49406383
This isn't true at all. With the exception of her, and the members who left immediately following the merger, EX-KR is all doing better under the main branch than they did as a side branch. Hada has just been too inconsistent to grow. Some of it isn't on her, she's been fighting some recurring sickness bodying her voice for a while, her house got crashed into (apparently) etc.

>>49407442
anon thats why a lot of people were interested in joining JP in the first place, now that nijisanji is pushing their livers to take a more serious approach to streaming and outside activities they’ve been complaining about the changes. they like treating streaming as a hobby and having a life outside of it. some of them have other passions and whole careers they care more about.

>>49407721
she didn’t say that at all. she said she doesn’t want to stream full-time because she doesn’t want to lose touch with her outside friends and reality.

>>49407843
>With the exception of her
Hari...

>>49404678
>this retard here thinking every streamer have to be like twitch faggot, streamer 20 hours a day.
Gtfo from vt.

>>49403380
Hada... Come home.
Bora's waiting...

>>49407988
Sad as it is, current Hari is still doing better than NijiKR Hari. (If only Finana didn't ghost her early on, they had a cute thing going they could've both grew from.)

>guys I have to work a job to pay the bills, so I can be a vtuber all the time, you fucking incel losers
>guys why does nobody donate to me? I can't be a full time vtuber without donations

>>49407970
This is one of the most retarded things I have read. People been streaming for a decade and haven't "lost touch" with anything. Is she not an adult that can manage her own life?

>>49408098
Why did you post the vtuber that always turns off SCs?

>>49407801
We are the 1%

>>49404867
you don't need to join a corpo to do that

>>49408056
I still laugh at how quickly she bailed the moment she was given a better opportunity.

>>49403682
koreans need at least two jobs to pay for all of their plastic surgery

>>49408113
i do get where she’s coming from, keeping yourself in your room for hours on end while you stream, and then more hours working on covers/clips, you don’t exactly get outside as much as a full-time streamer.

>>49403380
>too many random anons pestering in my marshmallow to stream
>due to this i will stream less and less for my actual fans
Genius

>>49408482
She's a hero now. She'll get all the twitter sympathy and her views will skyrocket, surely.

>>49408255
Anyone would. KR's management was actively sabotaging the branch and anyone that Chae Ara didn't like got bullied even harder by management.

>>49403380
I think this is perfectly fine and vtubers are free to do all of this. But they shouldnt whine and be surprised when people suddenly stop watching or their donations plummet. I'm baffled when they dont realize that a good chunk of the donations come from people who want to feel special and want to feel like theyre part of the vtubers life as a collective hivemind viewer. We want to be entertained. To feel exclusive. When something is wrong in our favorites life, we want to get small updates. Even if it's just about you cooking. A short message every other day. Remember Mio and her diary entries when she was in Youtube jail? If you feel people dont deserve that, then it was an odd decision to become a vtuber.

People know it's an illusion and an act to varying degree. You can do whatever you want when the stream ends, but just be professional for an hour or two.

>>49408482
That’s the human condition in a nutshell, isn’t it? A thousand anons shitposting about something they marginally care about, which emotionally affects a single person. The anons don’t feel it, but the one person does, and she has a menhera attack that affects everybody but the ones who don’t give a shit.
Why do you think this board is such a mess?

>>49408482
I remember some anons in /nijien/ thread claimed they found her ASMR channel. I guess she realized being a coomer fleshy ASMR creator pays better.

>>49403682
She hasnt broken 75k in 2 years. Theres no way she can live on the nothing from niji and had to get a real job.

>>49405981
anon how come youre not rich when gura is rich?
stop being a faggot, the fact your here shows your not any more mentally stable as you claim you need to be as a decent human being.
i dont care if youre some anon, youre a faggot for requiring others to be "decent" while being a piece of shit yourself.

>>49408586
Judging from her content, it seems like she doesn't even try. No wonder she has low subs.

>>49408638
Esl anon...

>>49403380
Saw the title and hoped it was someone from EN.

>>49408586
Reminds me of what one of the NijiID said in a rant before that the whole "we only see this as a part-time gig" was just pure cope since none of them make enough money to stream full time.

>>49408643
She was mostly on twitch and there were a decent amount of unarchived kareokes. Hada did try initially.

>>49403380
She's based

>>49405805
Better question
Why is Ban Hada ?

>>49408758
>what one of the NijiID
Which one?

For some reason I was sure that Ban Hada had graduated already a long time ago

>>49408526
So, is she like a worse Enna or a worse Elira?

>>49408995
Nobody can ban hada
Not evn that car that isekaid her house

>>49408907
Reza Avanluna

>>49403380
Literally, UNIRONICALLY WHO

>>49408482
>for my actual fans
all 3 of them

>>49409540
one of them probably left after she said this, so she might be an unironic 2view now.

>sonny's cumrag is lashing out
damn... I guess that 9 month break really was for their pregnancy

>>49409698
>had an offcollab together
>Hada hasn't been the same since
Or its just that it happened to coincide with the whole KR branch being nuked and absorbed

Crazy that back in 2021 Ban Hada was basically NijiEN, she collabed with NijiEN all the time and got like the best numbers in NijiKR

Then she took a massive break at the same time Luxiem debuted and NijiEN exploded in viewers. If she had been around then she would have been the KR Mika, and getting as good numbers as the ENs

I liked the songs she used to do for members, eventually stopped watching her due to lack of streams. What a shame that she likes touching grass and that she entered niji through KR. She should have joined a small corpo to do light GFE to more or less the same ccv

>>49409417
veibae.....

>>49403380
>streaming is not my full time job
Then don't join a company. Or at least GTFO it if they're not providing for you.

>>49409659
please I can't laugh no more

So much salt just cause she's a niji but this is probably what Gura feels too but can't because she's got such a bigger fan base lol.

>>49406582
Sorry chunnibud, but right now Nijisanji in its entirety is responsible for the bad reputation they created.
From their draconian management, 1-2% merch split, to their talents going menhera, its hard to support the company at this point.

>>49403380
based. Nothing wrong with saying this and anyone who thinks there's a problem is probably an idiot. Unless she was my oshi, then I wouldn't like it.

>>49410106
I can't imagine the shitstorm if she pulls one of these

>>49403380
this is how Gura feels about you niggers

>>49405981
you think gura, the cashcow of holo will say anything that would upset her fans? kek

NIJISANJI is well known as a part-streamer.
Few people can make it work, and even fewer see streaming as a job in the first place.

>>49406342
"Its simple napkin math"

>>49410805
Those billions upper management is raking sure aren't part time

>>49403380
Actually mental, imagine posting this and thinking you were proving anyone wrong
You very obviously do not care about your fans, you just use them as piggybanks when you have free time

>>49403682
I don't want to be racist against koreans but korean women have some of the worst ego's imaginable
They are like swedish asians, absolutely awful people

>>49410485
She puts out kino streams when she does stream. She doesn't whine and doesn't complain. But what would an anti know except to assume the worst in people?

>>49407040
>and they allow you to do as so.
Yeah no shit when even someone who doesn't stream makes the company a ton of money because of terrible merch cuts.

>>49411220
>swedish asians
at last I truly see

>>49411026
I mean it's their actual job, i.e. they are the actual employees on a payroll. Chuubas aren't employees. They're independent contractors. That's why you see even Cover talk about Holomems kind of like they're a third party.

>>49411230
>But what would an anti know except to assume the worst in people?
you say this when this thread is doing exactly that to another streamer kek

>>49411444
You mean the one actually, in reality, right now, with real-world evidence, acting out?

>>49411230
>Doesn't whine, doesn't complain
Because she's not stupid, she's got so much more to lose because she's not a 2 view. Just because she doesn't say it doesn't mean she isn't thinking it.

>>49409095
can Ban Hada ban Ban Hada ?

>>49411512
and STILL this thread is assuming things about her and her personal life that no one here knows

>>49411600
Fuck off, retard. I'm not even going to entertain mind-reading.

>>49403682
Honor culture
Vtubing is shamefur dispray

>>49403380
Counterpoint: If you just tell people, then they know and will yell at the retards for you.

>>49411512
>if you are bullied you should just deal with it
>if you react you are a piece of shit

>>49411622
Like what? Which reply got you so worked up? Point it out, please.

>>49403380
..... this is so unprofessional......

>>49403380
holy shit, touch grass nijiniggers

>>49411699
>girl bossing and dabbing on the haters is good now

>>49405928
And then record audio of her peeing on the toilet that'll show em

>>49411720
But don't you think it's very Nijisanji esque?

Nina this is very unprofessional behavior please cease immediately

>>49411667
This is always a double-edged sword, once you make it known that you value a certain type of fan over others, the fans that identify as "the good fan" feel vindicated to attack and lecture others very openly, everywhere
It makes your fanbase appear really combative and annoying

Look at the recent fauna situation, all it did was cause saplings to start attacking each other and hurling vitriol
When a new person to a vtuber sees this shit in the community, they stay away

Rabid male fans keep shouting at Aiba Uiha and demanding her to stream, Aiba Uiha just go to college as usual and stream whenever she wants.
Aiba Uiha ignores them and vent out her discontent to Mayuzumi instead of tweeting it out.
Aiba Uiha is still doing fine and she is having lesbian sex with Kitakoji Hisui.
Be like Aiba Uiha, don't be like Ban Hada

>>49411699
On the internet, reacting in this matter against internet trolls is the worst possible thing you can do. Because now you've given them an opportunity to flip it.
The best way to respond would've just been something like
>Hi! Sorry to say, but things are just way too busy with my personal life. As a result, streams will be far less frequent sadly. If you want to support, I just want you to understand, if you don't want to support, that's perfectly fine
Now she basically just got her actual fans in the crossfire.

>>49411825
This is not Nijisanji at all, Nijisanji is to be professional like Tsukino Mito, Mito always banter with her anti, she doesn't act like a fool and shout like a faggot on the internet, she is witty, smart and mentally strong.

>>49411667
The community becomes toxic and filled with infighting. She is addressing her fans.

>>49411645
What is this? If I didn't hear it, it doesn't exist? You know just cause you can't see oxygen, doesn't mean you're not breathing it.

>>49403380
She only has like what? 100 gachikois?
And she couldn't even manage 100 crazy fans?
Jesus.

>>49411943
Wait until you see how toxic Mito's japanese antis are at 2ch or 5ch or whatever you call them the japanese anonymous board.

>>49411699
Yes. That's what Niji management preaches after all. They won't defend you either so funny you posted a pic of Reimu.

>>49403682
She is Australian dude.

Quantity over quality

>>49411854
So it's a form of gatekeeping which is good

>>49411965
I don't assume the worst about her. Far from it. Before I get another retarded (You), I'm not interested in debating your headcanons.

>>49408113
Just yesterday I randomly browsed twitch and saw Midbeast talking about it. He said that if he just had to stream and not interact with the chat, he would lose his mind because you are in a room, all by yourself and you are basically talking to yourself. Lumi and Pippa talked about it too a few months ago. Depending on the person, it can be mentally taxing and depending on your work schedule, streaming full time on top of it can definitely make you lose touch with your friends and family.

>>49411928
My bad, I meant Niji EN esque, of course

>>49411986
How is it crazy to ask for more streams?
This is content creator 101, if you aren't listening to what your audience wants, don't expect an audience

>>49403380
Why are you so dumb BanHada..... just release a video/ announcement and lie to your fans that you got covid and you have to take a break from time to time because long covid is threatening your life.
You don't have to tell strangers on the internet the truth, just lie to them and stream when you wanted to lols just a fifty cent advice from a vtuber wannabe on 4chan, I know you are reading this.

>>49411798
Regardless, that's still not enough reason to shit on someone. I don't need to agree with her methods to understand that nijiKR got fucked hard and that people can be pieces of shit specially in maros. Who wouldn't be a little menhera in her situation?
You don't even watch her.

>>49411885
It certainly would have been better.

>>49412082
>niji management
I don't give a fuck I am here for the livers, management can go fuck itself with a cactus.

>>49412190
>He said that if he just had to stream and not interact with the chat, he would lose his mind because you are in a room, all by yourself and you are basically talking to yourself
But silly anon that's not what Hada meant. Also the argument is that interacting with chat is good? Yeah no shit. Meanwhile Hada barely responds to anything in her chat. She literally does just ramble to herself.

>>49412213
Vtubers don't own you their life, they can stream whenever they want, I don't think anykara is enforcing any stream quota to the livers they just have to sell them merch to repay the company.

Man, Hada doesn't deserve to get trashed like this in the catalog. Now this gives numbertrolls and kiwifags and excuse to harass her.

>>49412153
I knew you'd say that, it's a very rudimentary and childish outlook to have, because we have many instances that prove that no new blood to the channel just kills it

Remember the girl that told people that subscribing is just $5 and to stop freeloading? The one that everyone shit on?
Her audience completely supported her at the time.
Now where is she now?

I've seen many streamers completely die out once their audience become toxic, recently I saw that camila vtuber's fanbase having vr chat sessions where they debate about how to hold her accountable for collabing with "problematic fillian"
A bad fanbase can completely destroy you

She should quit vtuber.
I don't think this part-time job suits her.

>>49403440
Ban had a what?

>>49407526
no? she went on hiatus for a while and now she's technically back, but see OP

>>49403947
same, what the fuck kinda maros was she getting

Holos that feel the same way? I'll start

She's freaking out like Rushia, and the fans will blame the management for this.
Ban Hada Win!

>>49409417
>guys, guys, look at how smug I am about not knowing shit

>>49403380
Based chuuba putting her foot down

>>49412153
https://streamable.com/b76loz
Here's an example of how your gatekeeping fanbase that used to support you can start killing your channel
>>49412375
>Vtubers don't own you their life, they can stream whenever they want
It's completely reasonable to ask a streamer for more streams, just like it's completely reasonable to ask a musician to tour in your area
It is not crazy to let the content creator know that their fanbase wants more content
Especially when Hada is basically saying she is quiet quitting and there was no real prior explanation of it.
Do you forget that she has memberships? So people are giving her money every month and in her member description, explicitly tells people they will get access to more content if they member?
There is no content, it's not coming out, she's outright selling lies

Seffyna is streaming almost everyday.
But hey the negative maros from antis are more important than your fans!

>>49412773
>Golden Gator
>read it in my mind as Gawr Gura

fuck this place

>>49412856
shit i forgot the gif a shameful display from me sorry bros

>>49412498
Gura has never shit talked her fans

>>49412856
Seffy love!

She should have graduated with Song Mia

>>49412856
She's one of the KRs that inclined from the merge. Hada didn't do shit and is now rotting away in irrelevancy even though she speaks both English and Japanese.

>>49412962
There's probably some relationship drama here that we aren't privvy to, she wants to quit but is worried things might not 100% work out with them

>>49413050
>menhera makes all the wrong decisions in her life
many such cases

>>49403380
>who are you to say that i don't care about my fans?
>you don't know me like that lol
>I will stream less and less and less because the antis are harrassing me
>i don't care about my fans
>like that lol
>I am targeting my engluish fans directly
>get 8 hours of sleep I am not going to stream anymore
why is she so passive aggresive, just be direct and tell your fans you hate them instead of giving mixed signal

>>49406915
>Because its unstable?
Streaming is more stable than most wagie jobs in 2023, also way better paid.

>Don't stream
>Self-destruct when people call you out on it

>>49412914
Not how the fan base feels, how the streamer feels. Think about someone other than yourself for once.

THE STREAMS HAVE COME TO AN END
YEEAAAH, THIS IS WHAT TAZUMI PLANNED


WORKING FOR A BLACK COMPANY
TAKING ALL THE SUPERCHAT MONEY

ANOTHER BRANCH ON THE VERGE OF DEATH
CLOSE TO THEIR LAST BREEEAAATH


GETTING CLOSE TO THEIR LAST BREEEAAATH!!!!!!!!
ANYCOLOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


AND THEY RUN WHEN THEIR CONTRACT'S UP
WITH THEIR LIVES ON THE LINE
(NO LIVE!)

>>49408758
I think it is just cope in general. You think 90% of NijiJP wouldn't be happy to stream games as a living instead of working some shitty JP job? It's just that they can't afford it. Don't get why people parrot the whole parttime thing as a good thing.

>>49413153
>relying on donation's unfixed amount of money in an axed branch with no salary is more stable than being a wagecuck with fixed amount of salary and EPF/socso deduction rate

>>49413153
>Streaming is more stable
Not under Anycolor

>>49411928
To be Tsukino Mito is to have an extremely hairy pussy which you give up to me on demand for unprotected intercourse according to my sexual needs (minimum 7 times a day). Also unshaven armpits.

>>49413235
>Think about someone other than yourself for once
A lot of NijiEN Livers could take this advice

>>49403543
koreans are menhera 80% of the time

why don't they learn from their japanese senpai?
what is wrong with English speaking Liver?

>>49413153
its unstable in a sense where if you suddenly quit being a streamer because its not really profitable to you like some ex-ID/KR, what the fuck are you going to put on your resume?

>>49412856
>>49413050
Seffyna is proof that if you just work hard you'll get results
Banned Hada just stopped working and is wondering why this isn't her full time "unfortunately"
Seffy dumps a bunch of shorts, does art for people, music, games, and even collabs with people from all of the branches

meanwhile another menhera known as Amelia Watson is going to stream minecraft soon

>>49413651
How hairy is her pussy? Please say very.

>>49407586
Oh yeah the people from the KR branch like her are absolutely not making anywhere near enough to make streaming a full time job.

>>49413626
you don't have to be super famous to get a stable income as a nijisanji liver
look at shizuka rin, she only has 300 viewers now on twitch but she has a stable gachikoi fanbase that always buy her voicepack and merch and she is raking in alot of money from them. Ban Hada used to have a very loyal bunch of gachis but she scared them away. It is very imporntant to retain your gachikois, you don't have to have big numbers to a get a steady flow of income, but big numbers will bring you more sponsors and ads.

>>49413811
Did she do anything offensive besides being AWOL and today's outburst?

>>49413158
>Keep promising to stream more, don't stream, AND make wild excuses about it
Neither Hari or Roha stream much either but they are always a delight when they find time to do. She should have learned from their example how to do part-time vtubing properly. Maybe too late for Hada now

>>49413967
Nope, shizurin is a very lovely & cute otaku obasan.

>>49413764
Anecdotal evidence for the fuckall its worth but, I know a guy, non-vtuber, who streams to 300-500 5 or 6 nights a week. He makes enough money to live comfortably in Hawaii of all fucking places, with their insane cost of living.

Now he doesn't have to split his income with a corpo (except Amazon) but the vast majority of Niji is in this range and should be able to live modestly off streaming. If it's a part time gig and they're still in that range, even more reason to keep it up.

Talent freedom is waiting for you, it's time to go, banhada.

>>49413764
Seffyna streams full time and seemly has enough money to pay for over 30 covers in a single year and also have a new pc with a RTX4090 amd 7950x

>>49405311
>this ain't it
>a bad look
Like, OMG, I know right? You tell her, sis!

>>49414348
Omg, THE Ban Hada replied to me. Your tweet was still stupid btw. And it absolutely shouldn't be pinned.

>>49413811
That's not why she can afford full time but ok

>>49403380
Im not reading all that
qrd?
>>49403602
Sorry nobody cares as you can see by the lack of threat

Always amazes me how people dealing with unwanted attention will more often than not make things worse for themselves.
Putting this shit out like this ONLY ever make things worse. The little fake sympathy you get from people is never worth the fact that you just informed your harassers that they are getting to you

>>49414108
Oh, I meant Ban. I know Rin is cool. Shame that FF14 filters the shit out of me for personal reasons

>>49403380
common k*rean menhera moment.

>>49414872

>>49414989
that's what happens when you're the glory-hole of east asia for thousands of years

>>49414872
>>49414989
>become japan cumrag during ww2
>a few years later become america's cumrag while also having most of your culture replaced by globohomo bullshit
those chinks had it rough
it truly is a fate worse than death being literally and culturally raped almost a century now

>>49413421
>Believing that being a wagie is stable just because you have a wage
Peak wageslave mentality.

>>49403380
Ban Hada is such a cool name

>modern woman
>mental breakdowns
This is some weird attention seeking shit 100% I don't even need to read the rest.

>>49403440
kek fpbp

>>49415232
>almost a century now
wait till you learn about the mongolian and manchurian invasions, and han dynasty colonization since 109BC

>>49403380
>Becomes content creator.
>Refuses to create content.
Why are women like this?

>>49403440
FPBP.

>>49407235
Streaming is already a thing before vtuber retard, you're still newfag don't act like you're any better than average /vt/ poster

>>49413631
seffy only found true success after the merge
which pretty much means she had a safety net irl to pour all the effort and covers, hella lot of covers
Hada is clearly wage slaving in aussieland and for better or worse has a social cycle of grass touchers
Hada has no monetary nor social reason to keep streaming, better she can do is schedule a graduation

>>49404678
pretty normal by nijisanji standards unless you're one of their top members you need a dayjob to survive.

>>49414318
>checks seffyna vrabi page
>most of streams has between 300~600 viewers
You don't say anon she has money, that reeks stable gachikoi fanbase just like Aia

>>49417629
A massive improvement when she used to get 100-200 only when she was being weighted down by KR. She can even hit 1k for her drawing streams now.

>>49417629
Ya I mean I will say she does have original goods which she has seemly sold a good amount of that and since she made the art for it she gets an even bigger cut.

>>49417713
I remember being so happy when i saw Seffy break 100 viewers the first time. Happy she kept grinding, she deserves it.

>>49415255
You think any woman that streams ISN'T on some attention seeking shit?

>>49403380
Wait isn't she the girl that had some random car crash into her house?

>>49403380
If this is her stance, Sana is a good example for her to follow.

>>49403380
>Read the name.
>I think it was an elaborated troll.
>Turns that is a real vtuber
mfw no face.

>>49412375
>hi what do you do
>im a content creator, please invest time and money in me
>okay, can I have some content?
>no
>wow, that sucks
>vTubERs dON't oWn yOU tHeIr liFe
will you white knight retards just rope already holy shit
you wouldn't say this shit about any other musician/performer/producer that has a brand

>>49408543
Very good post anon

>>49406089
I watch a dude that streams three times a week that gets less than 1k viewers a stream. He quit his job and has been doing this full time for a year now. A lot of people go full time around 700 viewers, give or take. You don't need thousands of viewers, on the other hand getting to more than halfway to a thousand is still huge.

>>49418400
>you wouldn't say this shit about any other musician/performer/producer that has a brand
It's pretty simple, I'll invest the time and money when they produce something. I won't constantly pester them to make something and just look to someone else's work.

>>49413372
>You think 90% of NijiJP wouldn't be happy to stream games as a living instead of working some shitty JP job?
yes anon, thats why theres livers who only stream once a year in niji.
not everyone is cut out for streaming full time, and dont give me "dont join a company then" because most joined before anycolor went public, they joined for the fun of streaming as anime people with their friends.
only nijiEN is trying to make money because they joined to make money.
get rid fo this "you have to work and be professional because i said so" mentality anon, not everyone needs to do a job theyre not cut out for just to make shit tons of money because if everyone had this tryhard mentality eventually everyone would over saturate the market with tryhards.

>>49419125
>thats why theres livers who only stream once a year in niji.
Yeah like 3 of them. Sure showed him. If you think majority of livers wouldn't be happy to do this full time you are a retard. "It's just a hobby" is pure cope. As proven by Reza.

>>49406582
>not watching nijisanji is a misdeed that must be punished
Not bootlickers btw

>>49403380
>I stream less because of external factors.
>but the more you ask, the less I'll stream. fuck you.
?

>>49418106
She said that's what happened, but she's a fountain of excuses for not streaming.

>>49419461
again with the "you must work" mindset anon, not everyone in life should be forced to take every opportunity given to them and work hard, that just wage slavery without the wage.
"just a hobby" has been a nijisanji thing since the beginning, only niji EN broke out of this and became work horses who are now being forced to work harder while making everyone else in the company get worse treatment if they arent work horses.
fuck nijisanji but also fuck you with your demands that align with what nijisanji's investors want.

>>49405839
More like 4-5 people. The rest are bots

>>49407521
Neck yourself kiwifarms glowniggers.

>>49403380
Fucking holotrannies kiwifarms underage retards. All shitskins from Indonesia.

>>49403380
this is fine, but it probably could've been worded less spitefully.

>>49403380
>Why the KR branch got canned?

>>49419920
I mean pretty sure somebody even doxed her house because there was a picture

>>49403380
> Geez another fake tweet thread. Everyone knows Ban Hada is a Korean. Put some effort in your bait next time
> it's real
The fuck?

>>49403850
Tsunderia was completely shit but I think poor Mio would be even more mentally broken if she had joined Niji KR and went through the cluster fuck that happened in that branch.

>>49403440
lmao

>>49422090
do your reps
both English and NijiKR history reps, that is