/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Since bread died early (at ungodly hour), I'll make a new one.

Meanwhile, here's Larissa Rochefort character sheet:

O shit, bump. Board is still going fast. Is there a burger yab?

>>49830803
She looking pretty good here imo

>>49810738
pretty surprising, yes. But Indira once raided Tribunnews

This may become the next hot new meta. Tho it's a bit risky since the vtubers doing it are exposing themselves to (supposedly) normies

>>49835321
Yea, there's nothing wrong with the model itself. The design's kinda neat, but IMO her rig falls on the uncanny valley between anime-ish and realistic movement. Might need a double take though, since I only see one stream of her

>>49837833
don't be lebay, ok?

Treerat is doing a rebroadcast of last night's karaoke in case you missed it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWMMCfKzgd0

Bump

>>49832763
Could be it bcuz of Ina's birthday? idk

>>49849819
discord leak

>>49850566
what did they leak?

ID is too peaceful recently so let's talk about holoIDcaf3, here's yesterday's fanmeets

>>49851815 <- me
Some JP Melfriends were there apparently yesterday

Meanwhile Yopi showed her fair share of fem-Ioforia and ofc dumpy

>>49851815
>>49852049
we need a compilation of this pic for each members

>>49830803
sexo

>>49852255
We just got this one from Zeta's meet today

>>49852622
For comparison this one from yesterday

>>49851815
>>49852049
>>49852622
>>49853009
all of this are the 500k one right? how about the 1000k one?

>>49853608
There's this if I'm not mistaken, same screen as the one used for 500k

>>49853608
>>49853810
yopi posted one when she chu her fan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LbWHNdK1tE
Utada Zoey playing Hades

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iLdf7EaDNno
Lilian Bramble
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0bNdJ6KR3_Y
Kkiko QnA

ok

>>49853810
I literally don't know what to do in this kind of situation.

https://m.twitch.tv/arpinahelios
Pina HSR

>>49852622
gangbang

>>49852255
We have several from Reine, Ollie, and Kobo from the last couples thread i think

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2S9q_LbB-9E
Kay road to 10k ikz!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5xz4GOnBUNg
Nanarika mabar emel
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dQLUJgI-17c
Oppai loli takes an HSR bath

This has to be the most femfilled fanmeet so far in holoIDcaf3

>>49855708
this is not a /ringo/ thread

>>49857745
lmao at her reaction when someone unsub her
https://youtu.be/2S9q_LbB-9E?t=899

Bumpo

Wake up babe, new Baloran team.
https://twitter.com/ZAVUSvlrt/status/1660196406269988865?t=LqQ1NvG869_e3z9Tjhfs_A&s=19

bump bump

>>49857126
>>49860165
>both love to collab with male
>both love to play as little sister role
>both have "cute but annoying" personality
>both are zoomer and kpop fangirl
>both filled with female fans
Here's the receipt to gain female fans if you interested.

>>49863278
Liesl shocked me, i thought it was Moona

========

Moza new costume https://www.youtube.com/live/_wsdDVWInuE?feature=share

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m--L2Yxh79g
>reincarnatorz
>1M on the line
>which ex-Yume deserve it more?

>>49863278
They'll play tonight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6y0QWNh6f5Q

Also tonight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsY_WZFCDkg
Laika gorilla talk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KY6Fv_pCHxQ
Talk with Cacang
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSdYcM4M0ds
Alden Nikke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdq6Zo9Udgc
Rena HSR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8T7vkGBvlw
Lilian outlast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pgbl5uz_xU8
Fuyo duels Ayuwoki
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdnT0ts33P8
Zen gives back to the community

>>49860165
>>49864429

https://youtu.be/dixD1Qy5YJQ

maybe fangirl like talent with cool personality too

https://twitter.com/ONShannon_/status/1660266078113759232

> Ave lanyard
> Akemi perfume

Shannon for AKA 3 pls jumping ship onto the agency just next on the leaderboard should be easy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDeL1tsLkQY
Meissa sings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2e_5QsPQ49M
Miyu ASFTU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWzj3c6gugU
Aneki-Naya fanfic review
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LycpIgNIQLQ
Late Mai birthday readings

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8lAZaPEt28
Post-Birbday talks

>>49866107
Anon do you watch that clip, she's just joking about having female fans and let her livechat spamming "aku" despite they actually a male. In fact, I belive she's the only one who have mng filled with only male

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmh2Q60MhQ4
Hyu travels through Sporcle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4YpAhHRaO4
Leone ngapex

>>49866107
>>49868080
from my experience, cool girl usually have hard to reach and unfriendly aura, that's why they usually have limited amount of friends (or fans in this case). Except if the girl have role model figure like kpop stars or idol because they can look up to her. Kaela is a good streamer but she's definitely not a role model figure unlike another cool girl like suisei for example.

>>49868080
i know that was just joking, but when i see some people commento that she has cool charm, I think that quite makes sense & derserve it if she have fangirl.

Well, i am not a girl either so I don't know what girl preference exactly.

>>49868080
Here's one
https://twitter.com/liliayunaa/status/1660289579222716417

so kaela is considered cool?
i thought she's kinda awkward

>>49868791
She sees herself as cool, but in reality she falls a bit short from that. Still pretty good, though

>>49865220
>Moza new costume
https://twitter.com/TCONicon/status/1660287485505839105
Is this hievasp first debuting child?

>>49868553
Is make sense if a flirt girl like Ollie & toxic girl like Kobo, are considered as a good role model figure?

>>49869121
no, they have a lot of female fans because their goofy and easy going personality. it just make them much easier to apporch.

>>49869121
Believe it or not, women have a sense of humor and find funny people fun.

>>49866107
Here's another example of cool girl that doesn't popular with woman because she didn't have role model personality. Don't worry it's not exclusively happen to kalea, that just how society work

>>49866259
Imagine if she really jumped to AKA and suddenly can stream everyday and never complains about teeth hurt or GERD again. How do you take that, Siskamlings?

>>49869121
Talk about "cool" thing, i split cool term for the talent in 2 categories, cool personality/characteristic and cool talent (bakat).

You may dislike their personality because both are uncool or even sometimes inappropriate.

But you can't lie about yourself that their talent, their performance are cool.

Like, Ollie is really good at VA and good at singing for specific genre, also do you watched her last performance on the stage? Definely banger.

For Kobo, fangirl like her because her singing skill & her Overdose cover song with male voice really success.

>>49871414
Is she Siska?

>>49869121
ollie and kobo shared their fanbase with holostarsen

>>49871482
People like Kobo's songs not because of her song choices or her voice but because Kobo sung it. I can guarantee that if she used her high pitched voice instead of her low pitched voice for her Overdose cover it's still going to do as well as it did. There's a reason why one of the biggest complaint about her Luvoratory cover is that her voice doesn't stand out enough.

bumperinos

every holofags start to comment in this thread, i always scare something bad will be happen, just like a few previous thread

>>49876128
say no more, lets invoke the greatest debate of pemaloe vs kobokers!!

>>49876128
Let's talk about Niji ID instead, who's next to graduate?

>>49876128
Hololive board seethe about it

>>49876128
>Ctrl+F Humbala
OH NO!!!!
NO PRAYERS YET!!!
THIS BREAD IS DOOMED!!!

>>49877036
So can someone explain what exactly happened between those 2 ? why they are starting to fight with each other ? I dont follow any drama outside /here/, so it really surprised me

>>49879100
because of anonymity, we will never know.
it could be:
>pemaloe vs koboker
>troll pretending as pemaloe vs koboker
>troll samefagging as pemaloe and koboker
>isi sendiri...

>>49877036
Wayae duel!!

soendoel

sweaty lustful sex with deidey

recommend me some skeb artists.
budget is 6k yen.
thanks.

>>49871414
I'm all in if Shannon can be better and more popular than Siska since it'd prove the sheer incompetency of NijiIDnigs

morning

the voice in my head is telling me that holoid gonna release ID4 and StarsID in the same week

>>49896065
The voices in my head told me that you're a faggot

https://twitter.com/yumelive_ent/status/1660430651642765312

Groomcorp opening audition

>>49877219
500 perak for that reza guy to be the next one

>>49877219
>who's next
all of them will. the real question is, who will be the last guy to graduate?

>>49873506
Tondemo Wonders (a cover that was released during her peak popularity) proves this wrong.

>>49877219
Tbh I'm still surprised Azura still hasn't chosen to graduate because she was one of the few who likes to shit on niji, also now that her wife Miyu already graduated too

>>49877036
You mean Pemaloes vs everybody?>>49879100
It's the second place syndrome, when someone get big enough but the the biggest yet they're desperate trying to justify why they're actually the #1. Of course there are this >>49879914 too, but the not everyone is a falseflagger.

>>49898280
No graduation so far, looks like Yuta groomed the new girls well

>>49900755
>not everyone is a falseflagger.
In a thread where every ID chuubas fandom gathered around? Sure...

>>49899636
Obviously mika if she didn't make yab, otherwise I put my bet on riksa

>>49901018
Anon, you need to go back to school and learn what "not everyone" means dear, pemaloe-chama

>>49901303
Yeah that's why I just assumed every shit-stirrer in /vt/ as falseflagger no matter the fanbase
>spoiler
Kek I don't even watch her outside of debut

>>49879914
i think most of the fight /here/ are just tourists from facebook/discord. what's more interesting is why those fans there fighting so much?

>>49899636
Basically what >>49901100 said, but I'd probably lean into Mika. She's got good sense on the broader streaming landscape, and she's not menhera like Hana. She knows how to keep shit together

>>49896065
The more I think about it, the more I realize the need for starsID, okay okay, you might doubt for them within holopro, but the rest of ID needs a wake up call that malechuubas deserve more Investment here, I still can't understand why there's less auditions for them this year than prev years despite the historical dominance of Andi and current rise of Akemi

>>49905193 (Me)
Riksa on the other hand, while obviously a strong contender for "juru kunci Niji ExID", never really give much thoughts about his existence on Niji. That doesn't mean that he does a lousy job on streaming. His game choice are unique, even in ID standard, and the way that he deliver his content is just so grounded, and down-to-earth. However, his style of streaming isn't really a crowd puller, and the one that's already become his fans usually becomes one because of his character model. I feel that he was supposed to take some supporting job on ExID, but eventually got the gig as liver as well. So, while I can see him being the last man standing, I'll predict that all the road leading to the eventuality will more or less is just business as usual for him

>>49879100
the owner of the doxx group on FB is pemaloe and that group daily activity is commenting on Kaela clip and comparing Kaela SC revenue with the other ID members this is where it started also normalfag on fb notice this too hence pemaloe become the "villain"
i didnt save the 10 dosa besar pemaloe that post also the reason pemaloe being obnoxious fanbase

>>49906450
you guys use to much kikebook

>>49860165
Did Ollie ever reveal her female audience percentage? Kobo is already really high with 30% female, i wonder if Ollie is higher.

>>49900571
She only had a third of her current sub when she released that cover. Sure, she had higher ccv, but she has bigger reach today.

Komandan monday morning stream:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7i8VU0I_M88

In other news, I haven't seen her for a while, is she rally busy currently?

>>49907266
iirc when CF 15 (yes last year) she said "kata m-chan fan cewe terbanyak di pegang dia saat fanmeet"

>>49906882
>a so-called "drama-hungry" group with 32.000+ members
>Bang Upi is already in that group and even occasionally commented and posted there (still relatively safe so far)
>even some chuubas started to promote themselves there

MOST

Oh yeah, VRchama, if you're /here/, do you plan to add Jelly Hoshiumi to your database? She's just Moon Jelly but an even more sadder girl version, after all.

awawawawawawawa

>>49910259
>Upi

What do you guys think about bang upi?

>>49910803
who?

>>49906450
which group ?? i dont know they have facebook doxx group

>>49910803
basic
and thats an overstatement from me

>>49910259
i don't know about you guys, shitposting or numberfagging or tribalfagging seems normal to me if its written with english, but always feels ill intended if its written with bahasa, if its only me?
thats why i always see them as "trying to hard to shitpost"

>>49877219
bet 100k next batch is nagisa (i even forgor she exist lmao), hyona, ejak, and jura

>>49910649
which one of you posted this?

>>49911143
Even on this board, you can clearly tell the difference between shitposter and people genuinely seething, there's just a higher rate of people seething on places like kikebook than this place.

>>49910259
should I be proud? that's group is the symbol of Id's toxic community

>>49911143
its the intention behind it, in here for example its just a bant bro, but in Indonesia Internet sphere it sound malicious because we have culture "ojo dibanding bandingke"

>>49910803
hate fleshtuber, simple as.

[Food for thought]

As a Malaysian, before Kobo, when I saw Indonesians in public, I didn't pay much attention to them. Now, I have this urge to shout "Kobo Kanaeru" at them.

There really are a lot of indo in my state.

>>49912744
>There really are a lot of indo in my state.
Always has been. Even before Malaysia even exists. Negeri Sembilan is one of many examples. Not to mention past kingdoms.

>>49910803
>say he dont want to be treated different by HoloID girls
>he want to be treated like normal viewer
>but still using his verified yt account to comment on their livestream
>invest in local indie
>it failed
>no refund
>start shitting on vtuber culture
king of leeches and ironic weeb name better duo

>>49910803
at first i thought some vtuber fans hate him are just overexaggerated/blind hate, there's no reason to don't like a person who even windah see him as a good friend since a long.

but now kinda... idk why, just feel he and his circle are shit.

>>49908750
Well yeah, but those new subs don't watch her Tondemo Wonders cover. It doesn't have legs at all. Even her Happy cover has passed it even tho it has a bad start. We know that Kobo has a big fanbase for music (just look at the comments, full of people looping) and they completely ignore Tondemo Wonders (other than luvoratory).

>>49911143
>bahasa
kys

>>49911203
>Hyona, Ejak
Safest picks, since they also grinds their Twitch rm
>Jura
Why would she leave when she has an FC that can carry her through Ultimate Raids in FFXIV? I bet the moment she starts playing in PF, she'll cry from the amount of shits thrown to PF healers
>Nagisa
I think she experience a Rai Galilei moment rn, but I can't blame her. She (and probably more than half ExID livers) treats this as more of a sporadic side gig rather than a fulltime job

>>49913091
The same reason Suisei has several sub-1M covers from her pre-hololive days. People like new stuff, and if that new stuff is better than the last one then the next one will do better than the current one and the previous one will do even worse. Oh! Asmara already reached 6M plays on YouTube and Spotify after only 2 months, the same amount that Overdose get after 4 months.

i wonder how strict anikara contract to our idlivers, if they're basically self govern right now, why don't they try the wildest stream yet? we have livers who shit on them on twitter yet nobody takes hiatus/suspension.
and i don't think jp management keeping close with id livers.
is there any obligation to follow? after all of this?

>>49914060
Despite all of the shades thrown at Anikara, I'd still believe that ExID livers are still abiding their rules/contract, hence the no hiatus/suspension. You're probably right about how JP managers don't keep track them closely, but let's just say the ID bunch do 'main cantik' better than their EN/JP livers

soft kiss with miti

french kiss with deidey

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQTlvA6aqRg

>>49914957
I still can't understand what makes ASMR great.
>>49896065
Yagoo please add Hanabi from Tsunderia to ID4, please please please

>>49911713
Can't blame him, we need to pompa hamil Bae

>>49916346
>ASMR
I prefer her karaoke but she gets the highest CCV and total views in her ASMR.

>>49913639
>jura
she live outdonesia, have job (well all niji ex id have side job), very open with her dislike anycolor

>>49918020
She's a student in a foreign land with probably less-than-prestigious scholarship, hence the needs for multiple part-time jobs just to keep herself (and her dog, possibly) fed. Also, you can dislike your company, but as I was saying in >>49914457, they can still get away with it since they play their sarcasm better.
Now, I don't think that Jura doesn't have a plan to leave Niji, but I believe that her allegiance towards Niji (or rather, the circle that she built with other livers throughout the years during her time in Niji, and yes that's including the FFXIV FC) is still strong that the thoughts of graduating isn't really a serious possibility to her.

>>49916391
pompa hamil deisex

>>49920888
blessed by a trip
no anal sex tonight
it's impregnation sex time

why would you guys pick deisex over suisex?

>>49921177
Newfag?

>>49921297
no, i just think suisex is far superior in erotica rather than deisex, but i guess its just preferences

>>49921177
she needs rape correction

>>49906450
>>49906882
they've spilled over to YouTube comments for a while now

if i use deisex as my youtube name, will deidey ban me from her channel?

>>49922024
u need rape correction anon with that mori horse

>>49921177
blame bitter sperm and his minions on this board for the deisex

https://twitter.com/virtunix/status/1660591513997565953
Can anyone really replace the old Mira after all?

https://twitter.com/DoseiVtuber/status/1660596245076021249

Dunno who she is, but apparently she's just taken an indie pill

>>49923511
maybe nobody was brave enough to try
just think about it, being a skinwalker without knowing anything about your fanbase, gachi, or inside-joke is kinda torture by itself

>>49914611
get in line

Kobofags are mad at the blue homo now, I hope they will stop collabing soon.
https://twitter.com/hana3ru/status/1660582833197568000

>>49923686
That doesn't stop the new El rm though ... Seriously, is she really the panda from groomcorp?

>>49924900
no wtf panda doesn't play fps and iirc had a shit device

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7A7PStz4jI
Meedy VS Akinator
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXxHF6cQU6A
Lilian VS Outlast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5mmKDQZJQM
Kaede draws
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuQZC8vbePo
Ririsu VS laughs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEo3LN2VUNo
Fure @BakwanSMP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2g6X7RzrLc
Mitibros, wtf is her opening and why she's still addicted to masbro?

>>49924812
cat fight lol

>>49924812
holy shit man i just dont give a single fuck about your twitter litteral who or your facebook fanbase war just fuck off back to facebook already.

https://youtu.be/BOI-11vWBL4
ENTER
PRESIDENT OF TARAKARTA

>>49925663
It's cute and it fits her. It's endearing to see Miti being infatuated by a low-poly capybara.

>>49924812
before you fags dragging those further, tell them that tribalfaggot usually delete their own chat after the stream done, thats why if you read those twitters reply, some of them cant find those tribal comments in stream anymore for evidence, this happened a lot on id members stream this few months, but dont get me wrong, i agree that kobo should go back to her root and stop spamming collab with the homos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Hs4SAFbABU
Daisy ngehalu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOaeRWO8xmc
MiU reviews stuffs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfZuYwpJvCw
Laika Kalimba

>>49926378
>delete their own chat
>evidence
if the chuba show the chat in their screen, the evidence is there.
but you can find the account with hyperchat.

>>49924812

https://twitter.com/EDAm4m3/status/1660478740080783360

kek

https://twitter.com/kobokanaeru/status/1660631250657501186
/warkop/bros, we're inclining at spotify!

>>49927631
>https://twitter.com/kobokanaeru/status/1660631250657501186
deleted

what is that

https://www.twitch.tv/stellaastel
Stella ngapex
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foXL4PiI4L4
Cilla ringfit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsnJ0g4Qs40
Leone menkrep

Reza Dragon Age Origins: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-V6FNBFBAU
Etna Honkai Star Rail: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjQFmHp0ba4
Hana One Hand Clapping: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZESn5Mb8h8

>>49927694
https://twitter.com/kobokanaeru/status/1660632091623817220

>>49926584
yes, but they also changed their username temporary, so if you are not watching the stream and they already delete their live chat, you cant track them, one example is that tribalfag on risu, moona and ollie mc collab, some tard changed his username as moonas fanbase and attacking ollie, while risu and moona are there too, he forgot to delete his chat a day after but he already changed his username to his default, so i can track and check his history, if you try to look at ollies stream, his live chat are deleted but still appear on ollies screen with different username

https://twitter.com/AkemiNekomachi/status/1660632808283602946/history
Are you ready to witness history Awanama? Right now only 6 malechuubas worldwide can go over 1M and Akemi will enter this elusive list as the 7th soon!

>>49927899
i forgot about the name changing.
they are pretty sneaky.

>>49928139
good for him, and his short is actually good. but i still think that focusing on shorts is not good for the long run.

>>49927543

>>49927543
>>49929217
40keks
poor risu

>>49924812
holykek what an ungrateful bastard.
good job kobokerz, you finally know how to repel the homo. now keep spamming it, make him suffer so other homos will learn not to collab with IDs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7J1t-jSbJA
Echi CF16 loot

How much money you get if your song have listener at least 1 million on spotify?

also, is even holo id got royalty if their talent song played in some event (even with proper even organizer)?

at the begenning is even holo id already legal in indonesia? where's the official? at least, is holo id have ruko?

Overcooked 2 koleb
>Kkiko https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8x-yP7OnG8
>Naya https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka6wUzyzSVo

https://twitter.com/mas_ittou/status/1660496416178073600
roru
rumao

nooo guys don't hate tempus plsss, it would hinder our chance to have starsID :(((

>>49930775
talented indonesian young man prefer to become influencer/content creator on ig or tiktok rather than become vtuber.

even just only with 50k followers, they're can gain money 20-50 jt/mounth.

>>49928139
Wait, only 6? I thought there's much more of them. Like, I only knew Kuzuha, Kanae, and Vox are the 1M club from Niji ...

>>49930775
One of my fantasies is when HoloID managers are arrested due to drug abuse and they do it because of the stress from their work.

Other fantasies including HoloID talents and/or staff become victims of May 1998 Mk.II: Electric Boogaloo, being in Bakhmut with Hololive patches all over the vest, making MV of I'm Your Treasure Box but with a lot of combat footage and uploading it to a lot of websites (including /pol/ and /vt/), and more.

>>49931002 (Me)
This is also my response for this >>49930692

>>49930775
If starsID ever happened, I hope all of them avoid tempus at all cost

>>49931002
i'd rather become ngabers
ingat
ini semua soal manset

>>49931043
dude, i don't want to say this but
get some help

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PeTNlQBut0
Devi wibutalk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9IeKx-_HYw
Alona menkrep

>>49931002
That or start a ngaber style podcast with their circle
>>49931185
Exactly!

>>49830639
That neck is taller than Mt Everest.

>>49931116
what if starsID is the embodiment of "me and the boys" meme
like litterally
4 villainy boys who mock anything and everything, doing nasty thing to tempiss, blatantly block them, ordinary villain stuff
but yes their goal is to cater the dark side of fandom itself, so hated or not, they would still do it

>>49931185
>>49931227
go watch upi

>>49931735
No. I'd rather watching someone else like that YouTuber who only reviews Bus AKAP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fm8K_q0ffqE
Lydia donothon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBj1EfAu0vI
Kawi tries singing

>>49924812
Damn he handled it really fucking badly. Regardless as a day 1 Kobo's member I do think that Kobo's fans is the second most obnoxious chatters only after the Chinese antis.

>>49933965
>Kobo's fans is the second most obnoxious chatters
that's because you only watch kobo, chumbud is still way worse

>>49934878
Chumbuds were worse because they're way bigger than Kobo's fanbase, Kobo's fans are still more obnoxious.

>>49931303
No. Still won't watch them

Cia's playing Zelda:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DPgXu8rmBY

>>49936110
Good, no need to watch them, just spread the word instead and help them build an independent and stable brand separate from the girls, I think starsID works best by building their own networking not only within stars but more importantly, they need easier perms and bureaucracy to collab with whoever they want bcuz imo this is what holding tempus from getting popular in EN

https://twitter.com/i/spaces/1yNxaNpMwAXKj?s=20
Naya in space about uhh Bollywood(?)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KRHbWbL4mJU
Echi karaoke trials

BUMP

bump bump

>>49934878
kek i still remember the chumbies vs id arc

>>49931029
Yep it's them + Mysta and Luca from niji and also Shoto

>>49931289
But is it taller than Selen tho?

>>49931116
Based
>>49931303
Straight-laced, serious 'lawful or neutral evil' character who's often bullied by his friends like Garit
Chaotic, fun, loud, do whatever i like 'chaotic neutral' character
And santuy anti-villain 'chaotic good' character
They would make the best trio
4 is too much but it's a good number for a PUBG squad.
>>49938026
>I think starsID works best by building their own networking not only within stars
I agree. Unlike in the west our big content creators are not problematic or drama queen like 39daph. They can 'leech' windah, Elestial, Beacon cream and Manca easily unlike HoloID girls. Beside their EN senpais are hated pretty much in every platforms now so it's best to avoid them, i was surprised that kikebookers also slowly joined the hate train. Never thought I would see that, i guess it's all thanks to Hogwarts Legacy and Kobo for this change of mind.

>>49933965
ogey sister
also it's a cat fight, just fight and kill each other in your shithole please

>>49935332
>Chumbuds were worse because they're bigger
>Kobokerz is bad not because they're big
Typical faggots/homosister behavior. It's the exact same thing. There's a reason why Pemaloe has evolved from a small and loyal fanbase to the 2nd most annoying (if not the most annoying) fanbase in ID. Because they're the 2nd biggest fanbase now.
>>49952890
>our big content creators are not problematic or drama queen
Cmon anon, do you even ID? A lot of our big name are a drama queen.

the key of starsID success was not to hire a literal who or current existing IDmale vtuber. I can guarantee you 100% they only want to join because they want to interact with holo girls and groom them.
find someone who already big in their past who barely exposed with vtuber community or even celebrities. sounds impossible, but that's the only way

The solution to starsID is to not have a starsID at all. We have a lot of potential for malechuubas, yes, but it's not on hololive (it's not just the unicorn, but the autistic JP perms and managements too). Our next big malechuubas will come either from indie or local corpo.

>>49954237
lmao, cover wouldn't let this happen. our next big malechuubas will coming from hololive production simply because they want to dominate the market. if they see there's potential growing market, they will take it. they have power to do it and tons of support and connection. indie or local corpo had no chance

>>49954520
sure, we know cover know how to grow both ID AND males :)
They don't, all their males are a failure while ID all got carried by external factors (pekomoon for ID1, HoloEN for ID2, and Windah for ID3).

>>49954520
>they have power to do it and tons of support and connection
What power, support, and connections do they have in ID?

>>49954892
too much /#/ makes you stupid, anon

The next big ID males will be from NijiEN

>>49955323
great argument, thanks for giving me data to prove me wrong

>>49955794
It will be a kpopfag half british Indos living in the UK

>>49955954
As opposed to yours, right anon?
If you want to copypaste, use chatgpt instead

>>49958028
maybe you should listen to your own advice

>>49953254
>A lot of our big name are a drama queen.
You cropped the part where I specifically said 'LIKE 39DAPH'
Because I can't think of big ID content creators who are too DEEP into woke stuffs and constantly picking fights or making drama against many fandoms unpromptedly like Daphne. Ours are getting along regardless of their race and religions, chindos mingling with pribumis, etc. unlike the normalized clique-like nature (separated by race and politics) of western streaming that Asian chick is part of.

>>49954892
>>49955084
They have the power to push tempus really hard, they would do the same to StarsID. It doesn't matter whether they know how to grow the talents, they have the power to destroy the indies and local corpo and they will do it

>>49949742
The fuck, it's all Niji. What happens to Stars? Do their growth stagnate?

>>49962429
always has been

I think as a fan it's better to play good cop bad cop and pushed StarsID toward local E-celebs than holoID.
I was confident that after IPO we won't get starsID, but looking at the permanent audition with no additional gender restrictions, my worries spike up.
I don't trust HoloID management enough, they managed to let two golden gooses like Kobo and Ollie fucked up and reclined.
God forbid if they push for "unity" like Omegay and EN management.
>>49962429
3 out of 4 tempus are east Asians and they couldn't leech black and white streamers. Also a significant portion of stream watchers are on twitch and they are difficult to convert into YouTube watchers. I can't speak if they're boring or not because i don't watch them, but according to many anons here they're all boring faggots

>>49964320
No, I was thinking of StarsJP, like I thought Roberu or Astel would have at least more than half a million. Turns out they have less? The fuck is wrong with them when Gwelu, Chaika ore Joe Rikiichi have more subs than them?

>>49953254
How does hating on Kobo's fanbase make me a sister when half of them are homobeggars? Whenever she mention any collab plan the majority of the chat would mention the homos name, they're the only holo fanbase where homobeggars outnumber the general hololive fanbase..

>>49964320
i don't think its m-chan fault when the talent chose to sabotage themself

>>49968689
that's what good manager does

>>49953988
So, Bayu Skak?

>>49964320
>I don't trust HoloID management enough, they managed to let two golden gooses like Kobo and Ollie fucked up and reclined.

This. Why many ID fans still denial about this fact and still "nyembah" ID management?

Sure Hololive ID waaaaayyyy better than NijiexID but I still blame their management who don't know how to maintain Ollie & Kobo popularity.

>>49968689
>>49970730

Kalo Holo JP yang punya momentum ketiban durian kaya talent Ollie/Kobo, management mereka bakal ngadain event besar, collab besar, bikin konten game bagus atau tvshow, pokoknya dimilking habis-habisan dan talentnya dikasih arahan yg bagus.

Makanya gw bilang Holo JP itu mirip Windah, Windah juga kaya gitu, dia ngerti cara manfaatin momentum, cara milking, cara bikin konten yg bagus gimana di saat yg tepat.

Eh fans Holo ID penyepong managementnya malah salty.

mending femanon /warkpp/ sepong aku

>>49970539
They're managers, not babysitters.
>>49970730
ID management is about as competent as EN management, the only difference being, for better or worse, ID management is less restrictive towards their own talent.

>>49970629
i'll give you better
alip_ba_ta

>>49959947
How?

>>49962429
>stagnate
not really, they're still growing. it's just the growth was always super slow. they never have a big incline moment i think (well, maybe except for the first tempus debut with the maglord memes, but even their first stream doesn't have great numbers).

>>49971850
Please and thank you. We need more local chuuba with selera lagu jadul

>>49955794
morning warkop

i will be going to city of robocop for a week, so no update on pituber dot asia until early June

>>49971827
when shit start affecting their performance, managers should step in

>>49968689
But anon, cover gave them salary to manage HoloID and their CCV
>>49971827
>ID management is about as competent as EN management
oh The Horrors!
They should strive to be BETTER than EN management

>>49967519
don't worry, i know

>>49971827
>less districtive towards their own talent

Yeah, even they're don't care about risu's family problem, that make risu struggling/got distracted, can't make good career as vchuuba, and her holodiva fairytail will never happen

>>49971064
isn't this kinda the norm for holo tho?
they kinda reluctant to jumping right away into the trend, they always relying on fan made game, memes, or anything that community has to offer
btw bukan penonton windah, tapi dia nge-milking apa?

>>49968689
When you need to wait 1 year just to collab with your best vtuber friend, forcing her to collab with her next closest friend (aka the homos), then yeah that's 100% the management fucked up.

>>49971064
>Penyepong ID management
I wonder if it's a uniquely warkop thing
Everytime the management got shat on by anons here someone got extra defensive, but it's fine on other threads?

>>49972718
in kobo case, yes thats fucked up, because now we know how funny it is to have kobo collab with groomed cat, manca cs, and other idchuba like zen & siskuy
in ollie case, who? niji en girls? i don't find it entertaining whoever ollie collabing with, or maybe its just not my cup of tea

>>49973074
i gotta defend my coworker anon, purizu andastand!!

>HoloID management is not bad!
Okay then, let's just assume that the reclined of Kobo is 100% her fault. That still doesn't explain all the wasted sponsorship / brand deals that Kobo gets during her peak popularity. That's 100% the management job.

If i have a viral talent like Kobo, then i'll try my best to get as many deals possible. I'll ask her "do you get any offer? please send all of the offer you get to me". Heck i don't even need to do that, i can just check her all her DMs to see if she got any offer.

But no, the smart and almighty management at holoID just decided to let the dumb brat handle it themselves. It's crazy how many times i heard Kobo said "Oh yeah i got this offer, i'll tell management later" and then keeps forgetting.

>>49972718
>When you need to wait 1 year just to collab with your best vtuber friend
Kobo x Sena is gold
Sena-chan....
How old is Sena right now?
I wish she joined ID4

>>49972718
In early days, ID1 can often collab with their indie friends. I don't know why nowadays they need to submit a document a few months before just to do a collab.
Do they really believe the "walled garden" can also be applied to ID ?

>>49973600
like i said >>49972434


that' same happened like risu's problem too

Sure Holo ID still waaaaayyyy beter than NijiexID, but you still can see they're messed up & masted many chance

>>49973904
>I don't know why nowadays they need to submit a document a few months before just to do a collab.

Is that true? If it is, why does HoloID management act like a local Disdukcapil office? Is this another "Japanese company can't handle shit on overseas business" momento?

>>49973319
I get why it's hard for Manca. Zen and Siska is also not guaranteed to be a good collab. But i don't understand why it took so long for the collab with Sena even tho it should be one of the earliest (Yume management is not anywhere near as strict as Maha5 and Niji right?). Unless they're actually scared of the Yume yab, in which case it's dumb imo since holoID (and especially Kobo) is way too big for that yab to affect them.

What's weird to me is how it doesn't took a long time at all for Kobo to collab with other corpos (Lili from MyHolo). What's the difference? My guess is probably the holo management is extremely passive and not proactive at all, leaving the talent themselves and/or other corpos to push the collab. MyHolo, as you can guess from the name (kek), is a pro leecher and knows how to get the collab perms easily. While Yume keeps getting rejected/ghosted because of unproper proposal or something.

>>49964320
>I don't trust HoloID management enough, they managed to let two golden gooses like Kobo and Ollie fucked up and reclined.

Oh boi, I need the list of that. So far in this thread, I see:
>questionable collab choice and timing
>wasted opportunity for Kobo to get some sponsorships
What's the others?

>>49974246
I think this is less of a holoID momento and more of a cover wide momento anon

>>49953988
>I can guarantee you 100% they only want to join because they want to interact with holo girls and groom them.

>>49973904
did you watch ollie ? a few days ago she collab with koe,rpr, nato, onigiri,

>>49974966
here >>49972434

will you add it as dosabesar?

>>49975182
That sentence is too ESL even for Indonesian. So, the management doesn't care about Risu's family problem and that made the domino effect on why Risu failed to seize the moment to be a Holobiduan like Moona, right?

>>49972434
Her family problems is her private matters, there's no way management can do something about it, stop being retarded.

>>49975460
yeah, risu's problem not only need mentally support but even should be have legal assistance/law support (bantuan hukum).

As a management they're should be help their talent, for the sake both.

>>49975122
His eigo unironically worse than Zeta, how could you be an ESL in motherfucking Australia of all places?

all this management talk make me want to be the manager itself
and when the moment comes, if i were to be assigned as kobo m-chan, i will throw her right away at the sea of ojisans

>>49973600
THIS
Sponsorships / brand deals / endorsements are the main revenue of most of our content creators. I don't know why they wasted that kind of opportunities

>>49975835
good management should be help their talent problem.

even a small e-celeb who have management, their management have a duty to support their talent, because they're know that will affect their performance and career.

>>49974502
TLDR : If you want to collab with holos, be a leech. If you're just genuinely want to olay together, it'll be hard unless it's with Ollie since she'll handle everything herself to make sure it's happening.

>>49975835
Her private matters affects her stream qualities, so...

except hololive let their talents suffer with their talent problem to sell sad or glorify story, to make the audience give emphathy

>>49973736
Isn't she still underage?

>>49972320
Risu makes more money than her manager

>>49976466
meant for >>49976141

How did he do it, Awanama?

>>49976141
That's still crossing the line for a company to directly involve with their employee private matters. And don't forget everyone need to make a big ass proposals just to make a simple collab happen especially if its cross branch collabs, or collobs from outside the company, that's probably why kobo and sena collab not happening sooner, dumb zoomer probably too lazy to make a proper one, and some just don't want to bother to initiate a collab on their own

>>49974502
I mean have you seen bae's discord leak yesterday? Passive management is understatement, especially when they were content with 4 PEOPLE AMONGUS COLLAB. People like Kiara and Ollie are the ones that make this boat afloat

>>49976466
so??? what's the point?
if the manager makes more money than her, that's literal black company behavior

>>49976652
>bae's discord leak
Wait i missed this, brb checking the archive

>>49976587
i know the end, more like this >>49976445

>>49965256
Nothing's wrong with them. For males, Holo brand is poison and Niji brand is a buff.

>>49976556
SEEEXXXXX

>>49976714
>why should I min maxing my job for no incentive whatsoever?
Except if there was linear correlation between manager salary and her talent performance, that was their usual thought process

>>49977018
I mean that's why they need starsID right? This is the only market with higher stars demand than nijimales

>>49976556
POMPA HAMIL

>>49977167
What requirements for StarsIdlD members in order to be successful? Be more grounded with local scene? Having non-ESL accent to reach international market? Seiso? Degen?

Oh no, the holofags is at it again!

Like i said before, there are many penyepong ID management who really denial

>>49975045
I wonder if JP higher ups never bother to share their wisdom and knowhow to ID management. Even simple shits like how to deal with antis, spammers, trolls, chat police and collab beggars.
>>49975937
Based
I hope you get in
>>49976578
By being a shortschuuba. Congratulations though

>>49976714
No, that's what I should be asking. What are YOUR point? I don't think you realize how much HoloID management has done to support Kobo's and Moona's music career, Risu just doesn't have what it takes to be an actual music focused holo. She put way less effort into music than someone like Ayame.

>>49977339
they have to be mamang senja who listen to indie song 24/7 while nyeruput kopi luwak

come to think of it, why nobody in holoid sings indie song, is the copyright as strict as labeled ones?

>>49977167
>This is the only market with higher stars demand than nijimales
Where is the source?

>>49977686
Probably greynigger homobegging in kobo chat

>>49977421
>being a shortschuuba
And nothing to be shameful about it really, I remember Rin that jewcorp chuuba did it first, Akemi next task now would be turning that number into sizable viewers but knowing ID, his job would be tougher than Rin

>>49976652
>>49976883
sauce please, i'm bored reading the holofags fighting with each other

>>49976556
who is this semen demon?

>>49977825
He doesn't need to convert it into viewers. He needs to figure out how to make many from shorts, probably endorsement or something. It's definitely hard tho

>>49977655
Isn't the indie copyright kinda more hardcore? I remember there was some conflict about the old Payung Teduh vocalist, his band and that Hanindhiya girl.

>>49977809
It's not just Kobo, ID homobegging are as old as holoro auditions

>>49975838
ID managers are Japanese, they can't offer any legal assistance in Indonesia.

>>49977827
It's in /number/ archive. Don't worry there is no all out war moment in there

>>49977943
lame japs huh

>>49977114
usually, managers do get incentive for whatever projects the talents got. maybe things were different in cover corp? kek
>>49977495
>how much
sadly, not enough
>doesn't have what it takes
point me where she doesn't have what it takes? it's her manager job to make it work. they're in entertainment company after all

>>49977906
Oh right, comparing AKA to holo the situations are like this
>AKA: willing to take all sponsors but having a hard time getting that demand
>holo: offers are everywhere but cover are too selective in cherrypicking those sponsors

>>49975139
Yeah, she's the only exception. Which is why i believe it's actually this >>49974502 Ollie can collab with everybody because she's actively pushing for collabs. Meanwhile other talents are just passive so you need for the collab partner to push it since the management is also passive.

Sadly most collab partners that'll push hard for a collab are probably a leech, while the one that just want to play together probably not. So it's a lost-lost situation.

>>49977906
he's short content storytelling is so good, that's will be his weapon. i hope he'll recognize it.

>>49977906
Isn't youtube pushing for shorts ? maybe he can connect with youtube representative or create connection with shorts youtuber community

bread is fast today

>>49977809
>We gonna have our own "Popular Demand" meme to shit on StarsID
Wild

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bB6ak4ymHxc&ab_channel=UtadaZoeyCh.%E6%AD%8C%E7%94%B0%E3%81%9E%E3%81%8A%E3%81%84

>>49979265
Holofags shit on the bread

>>49975122
kek this edit

>>49978100
Risu has the opposite mindset that someone like Mori and Suisei have.

>>49924812
I only wish that Kobo no longer collab with the blue leech. Also I don't think he gonna like her after she's not supporting "The Cause" lol
>>49929435
I'm fine with Kobo collabing with the other boys. But Blue Leech don't deserve a collab.

>>49979993
If you actually watched Risu from the start you'd know that she's much different from now.
Back then she actually is willing to try on building her reputation as singer: karaoke is almost guaranteed every month even just acapella, some cover songs whether it's solo or collab.
But she has a result oriented mentality. If you check her cover songs; none of them reached 1M except King. Even her newest orisong completely stagnated after like 2 weeks. And risu being the poorfag that she is must've felt that it's just a waste of money in the end. Now where are those people who always tell her to sing more huh? They can't even support her music career, yet always demand her to shit out more of them

>>49980794
>Risu is a numberfag for different reason

>>49980794
even after 2 holofest, all those praise, celine deeznut or whatever people say, it doesn't turn into good number

>>49978100
There's a recent change regarding music funding that was proposed by the ID management, I'm not going to tell you what it is but it's something that will massively benefit overseas music production.

>>49981320
source?

myass

>>49981401
I made it up, but half of that statement is already confirmed by Kiara in her membership stream.

>>49981679
I'm too lazy to search for leaks in the archive. Can someone please spoon-feed it to me?

>>49981788
Open your mouth anon
>BRAPPPPPPP

>>49981838
Fuck you
I didn't ask for this
Drink my piss, you dipshit

>>49981788
She talked a little bit about music production and confirmed that they get music funding based on their monthly listeners, which is different from what other talents previously talked about.

>>49981320
- overseas music production

wdym? EN & ID?

>>49982128
So it confirms >>49980794 then?

>>49980794
who's should blame?

>>49981838
>>49981963
this is not a /ringo/ bread, guys

>>49982722
nijisanji

>>49982596
I mean, if she still choose to be lazy even after getting some money to actually release some music stuff then it's not anyone's fault but hers.

Ah yes, the usual warkop. Everytime there is a StarsID discussion, people starts inhaling those copium. Then shit starts to go down. This peaceful state is making alot of people go wild man its crazy.

>>49983102
Sure but >>49980794 point is that it's not that she's lazy but that there's no point in wasting shit on something not cost effective, cover isn't run like a sportwashing sultan club after all

SEEEGGGGSS WITH DEISEX

>>49977943
anon, the first id manager was living in the same roof as ID1 did, now she got promoted as branch manager of all ID

>>49983102
she carrying her family by herself, anon. she isn't rich to begin with and only get a fraction of that money. competing in music industry need lots of money, even if you have the talent you can't expect good result with low budget production.

new bread when?

>>49983102
I just want her to do karaoke regularly. Recently her pace is 1 karaoke each month, and the latest one is a rare unarchive karaoke

>>49983951
Have you ever seen the way record label do their accounting, as described by Courtney Love
>Courtney Love does the math
https://www.salon.com/2000/06/14/love_7/
Music is never cost effective, anyone who does music stuff in hololive never does it for the money. Suisei might have the highest income in hololive but she's also the one who spends the most money on projects. A result driven person like Risu will never succeed in the music scene, no matter how much support is poured into her.

>>49984262
>>49984262
Just wait next month or until the next idvtuber drama so we can have a new discussion man. At this point warkop will start complaining over a problem that doesnt exist.

>>49983895
I'm just confused, I thought we're not that much of a unicorn or whale. Or it's just another copium to make us feel superior compared to insane kaigai nikki?

>>49984406
>Using AMERICAN artist to calculate music making cost for an INDONESIAN artist.
Really anon?

>>49984531
we aren't, but we're still number faggot through and through