/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>4972735
Kiara pissing on me for justice!

Been a good day ftmp.
Don't forget Nene's stream in a few hours, for anyone that's staying up.
Good night.

I want to drink Kiara's milk straight from the source! She even told me I should during catlateral damage!

>>4972735
will she ever complete yakuza? how many ours that game have?

Should I catch up on the minecraft stream.

>>4973956
If you weren't there live, you don't deserve to watch it. We have a special bond now.

>>4973985
Big brain takes.

>>4973985
I let it play while I worked at my other desk.

>>4973956
Should be a crime how many unofficial collabs we missed in the past 8 months because of the separate servers.
Kiara kept commenting that she's amazed she actually gets to play MC when other people are logged on. It's sad.

What did she mean by that...

>>4974141
It's definitely nice that Usadaken is giving her the excuse to log onto the JP server. I hope we get to see more impromptu Kiara-Watame collabs in general

I just connected some dots and found a KFP member who has to have a private way to contact Kiara...

>"We'll link the servers by portal, after we defeat the elder dragon"
So that's why she's been so set on killing it already.

Waterring just updated his account and Ina is getting fucked by a dick
I HOPE when it's Kiara's turn he makes her taking a big dick as well. I'm done with yuri shit

>>4975699
Based het chad.

>>4975699
>Kiara on top holding (You) to her chest and saying "straight from the source"
A man can dream

I heard a rrat that Kiara watched Cocos members stream and talked to her afterwards?
And Coco mentioned that?

>>4977480
Coco talked about it in an open stream. So yes, it's true.
Apparently Kiara said things like "You did nothing wrong.", "You shouldn't have suffered like this." and "Sometimes it's right to be stubborn.".

>>4974413
wtf I love kiara now

its a quiet day w/o kiara.....archive time

>>4977536
based chiken.

>>4973612
Gute Nacht, Kiara.

>>4975699
Post some of watterring's works

>>4978672
>het Kiara
i'm dying in a desert i'll take stick figures, luckily it's very good

O'riends.

https://twitter.com/takanashikiara/status/1403655384976576514

>>4980139
Cute

>>4980139
I want nene holotalk so much.

>>4980491
Let's hope it will take a long time until it happens.
For now Kiara is focussed on Gen 0 - 2 (with Marine as the only Gen 3 so far) and Coco only gets interviewed because she graduates...

>>4980139
Nene is such a sweetheart, like a fluffy ball of chaotic energy

>>4980594
Kiara seems to know a lot of Gen 5, maybe it's for the better.

Impossible

>>4978672

>>4978672
I cant, the files are over 4MB of size...

>>4985794
Link then

Hope chikin is enjoying spending time with her Mama but working feels so empty without her stream in the BG

I finished my homework
Here have some cool chicken

I've heard Chiken talked about playing Gothic and I am willing to kneel hard if it's true, anyone have source?

>>4990404
Looks awesome!

>>4993141
It was on her last stream, during SC reading. She suggested it and chat exploaded with YES, so she'll probably do it as a one-time thing.

>>4993238
Got a rough timestamp?

I want to cum in Kiara's bellybutton and slurp it up like a jello shot as she calls me degenerate names.

>>4993141
>>4993508

https://youtu.be/BBN2NdPGbGM?t=11465

She thought of Gothic because she wants to do a German-only stream.

>>4993508
No. Just skim through it, should not be hard to find. I have other shit to do.

>>4993575
>>4993586
Ok Chicken, you win this time, I fucking KNEEL.

Kiara's Austrian is always funny to hear, and Gothic is hardwritten into my DNA so I will have enough fun either way.

>>4977536
Man this makes me happy. Wish someone would translate this moment instead of another clip of Kiara talking about meme review

>>4972735
Stream, bitch.

>>4993846
Think she said she also played it when she was young during the Diablo 2 remastered stream.

>>4993575
Man, I forgot how pretty her new model is

>>4994192
It was during a Coco members stream so it can't be clipped.
>>4993846
Kiara is Australian though.
>>4990389
Get a fucking grip man. She roasted people who miss her for not streaming 1 or 2 days last stream. You don't want to be in that boat.
Weak.

>>4994192
Ye I hoped this would be something that got clipped.

>>4995330
>It was during a Coco members stream
Hu, the guy earlier said it was a open stream? What is it now?

>>4995330
>Get a fucking grip man. She roasted people who miss her for not streaming 1 or 2 days last stream.
Wait what? When? I thought she is happy when people immediately miss her.

>>4995656
It was a SC saying something like "I'm going to rely on you even more from now on".
And she responded that we should not rely so much on her that we despair when she doesn't stream for a few days.

And of course she loves being missed. Just don't be so extreme about it she has to worry. You know she's parasocial with her viewers.

>>4995656
>Wait what? When? I thought she is happy when people immediately miss her.
I don't have the timestamp but it was a response to that Felix guy who always sends blog akas and can't go 1 day without her.
Good thing that she's realizing she has to keep distance from people getting parasocial with her. She wants to be appreciated but a lot of people are taking it too far with the shit they write on twitter and on streams.

>>4994833
More importantly, couple streams back she made chikin mom look even more based(how's that even possible) by saying that besides gothic she played deus ex and something else very cool, forgot what.

>>4995847
She mentioned her mom played System Shock too.

>>4995900
That's it, system shock! God I love her mom.
Where's the MC collab, Kiara? Where the fuck is it?!

>>4995900
10/10 would play Diabo 2 remastered with Kiara and Mama.

>>4995607
https://youtu.be/S1Kx7Hc018c?t=1866

She talked about Kiara contacting her in an open stream although I believe the things Kiara contacted her about were in Coco's member stream.
I only read translations of it myself but it seems Kiara was a great moral support. Which is a role Coco usually has for other holos.
Orange love.

Chicken is in Watame's chat.
Either mama phoenix went home already (it's 7pm for Kiara right now) or they are watching a Japanese sheep together.

>>4996507
That would be cute. I can just imagine.
>"My friend from yesterday is streaming, want to check it out?"

>>4996507
I choose to believe the latter

>>4995656
>>4995798
>>4995822
she hates taking days off / going on a break because she has the fear of losing people if she doesn't stream for a couple days. she speaks from experience and so do i and most people here should have experienced this too.
if something you like isn't there anymore you cope by doing other things, which can hook you more than than the thing you are coping for.
good example will be her 1 week vacation. there will be hundreds of people who will leave her. that's normal tho. that's how humans work. there is even a chance some of us schizos here will stop caring.
while she is gone you will do other things. real life or gaming or whatever and you might get hooked enough so even when she returns you don't even care that much anymore. you will watch her less and less while getting even more hooked on the new thing. until eventually you stop caring at all. it's a snowball effect.
that's the reason why some of the most succesful streamers out there hate taking days off and try to avoid it if possible.
so it's kinda strange that she 'roasted' a guy for him being sad because he missed her for a couple days. it's probably exaggerated by the anon a litte, she probably didnt say or at least mean it like that. i might look up the timestamp later out of boredom to confirm this.

also my personal theory is that she won't stop streaming on her vacation precisely because of that fear. she will probably do short 30min-1h streams every other day on her laptop.

>>4996507
>they are watching a Japanese sheep together.
That would be fucking adorable. I chose to believe this rrat, it's a positive one.

Are you guys beating your meat to Tenchou?

>>4998089
No I respect her too much. I know it's retarded and autistic but It feels weird doing it without her consent. I also don't fap to anyone else because this feels like betraying her. When I fap I just stare at my wall.

Alter Kiara is another story. I hope she returns and gives me permission

>>4998213
>When I fap I just stare at my wall.
Actually based, but for all the wrong reasons.

>>4998089
I fap to "her"

>>4998089
I think I want to but I can't. Haven't tried it though.
>>4998213
Maybe it's out of respect for me also.

>>4998089
Very rarely
I don't fap while thinking about her per se but I fap when I'm left horny after the stream
Example: Her TTRPG tutorial

>>4977723
That is one stacked chicken...

>>4998089
Not right now, but I can if you want.

>>4999791
https://streamable.com/oed1bs

at 2:40 made me really horny. especially when she starts to get mad

>>4998089
I would normally sexualize an anime character, but I think because Kiara is so much of a "once in a lifetime" I don't really do that.

>>4998089
Not until she says I have to report to her when I do.

>>5000472
A cute kouhai for Kiara to bully in EN2, onegai!
We need more of this dominant bird.

>>4998089
Not often. She's the only one to give me that tingly, warm fuzzy, fluttery stomach feeling though, so that's a hell of an accomplishment. Every time I write about her, I can't help but feel that way and it's 10x better than post-jack off high.

Anyone has that gif of Kiara maniacally bonking the chat with her bat? I really need it right now.

>>5002822
This?

>>5002855
No, from the stream. I think it was a weird SC or something, she put on her gangimari face, puled out a bat and went "BONKBONKBONKBONK"

>>5002918
Don't have sorry.

>>5002952
It's fine.

I see, so all of you guys enjoy this chiken

>>5003983
Yeah, I like her.

>>5003983
Yep we all love the chiken. However, I'm surprised the thread hasn't been flooded with antis yet.

>>5004256
How new? They used to in the past but quickly realized that this thread is filled with obsessed kiara schizos. They can't change our mind on her. Also >we immediately mass report their shit so they always get banned anyway. Only newfag eggs dare to step in here.

>>5004256
After the ABDL arc it got bad but since then it's been pretty calm, and meido has been based and orangepilled. Also the worst anti took her meds.

kek I just found some guy, likely from here, who uses VPN to donate in ARS to get his messages read
I wanted to know if he's really Argentinian and nope, of course not, he's german
Yeah he's also into stalking like a lot of other KFP

>>5003983
Just a reminder of what Kiara truely thinks of all of you:

https://twitter.com/takanashikiara/status/1358435115316088835

>>5005321
I don't have a twitter, what does it say?

>>5005379
"I love you guys so much!"

>>5004878
Kiara might not be great at taking criticism she's good at learning from it

>>5005419
Aw, that's so sweet of her!

>>5005321
Fucker I thought it was something new

>>5005499
She says it all the time though

Kiara isnt getting anti threads recently bros, not even that occasional dox & schizo rant, are we
declining, or it's just the Coco arc right now?

>>5005575
If you weren't a splitjogger you would know that she got doxed a couple times today in hlgg

>>5005575
There was one roughly 12 hours ago because someone asked her about meme review and she said she didn't want to. That being said it was really well timed when her first collab outside hololive was.

>>5005623
are you going to tell us the color of the sky next?

>>5005655
Eh I don't think Tamaki would have ever gotten a lot of shitposting

>>5005575
You have to keep in mind that most "antis" here are just irnoic shitposter. They don't actually really hate her. and it gets boring to shit on the same person all the same so they switch. The dedicated, actual unironic schizos will still spam shit about her no matter what. But those are not many people so it doesn't really matter.

>>5005623
/hlgg/ truely is constantly looping. Kiara isn't even streaming today. Why would they doxx her if it's not even relevant?
(Rhetorical question, no need to answer.)

>>5005655
Kiara said she'd like to do it but only if Coco asks her on her own because the show is Coco's legacy and she doesn't want to try to take that for herself.
But that probably doesn't fit into the narrative of the MEMEME shitposters so they got upset.

>>5005815
Yeah even Kiara said she'd understand why Coco wouldn't want it continued because she see's Holotalk as her baby and wouldn't want someone to take it over if she left

There was some dox talk about her yesterday on the "18+ branch" thread. I haven't checked the general.
It generally gets deleted quickly here either by meidos or us self-moderating but it's not like we're present everywhere in the board all the time. I certainly wouldn't do it for free I tried and it wasn't fun

>>5005815
Would any of you even want her to do meme review? I would hate it. I can't stand r*ddit "memes" This would just take away another stream slot from the week

>>5005993
It does indeed get deleted quickly and bans are way harsher now too than they used to be. The problem is that splitnigs and newfags never report. They are probably not even aware that option exists. They either reply or ignore it, but don't report.

>>5006012
No, I wouldn't want that and you already pointed out one of the reasons.
The other reason is just that I don't think it would be a good fit. Sure, she might browse reddit every now and then but she is not good with memes (neither is Coco but she is JP so it's more excusable).
How often does she ask chat "Is that a reference to something? No wonder I don't understand it."?
She also gets bored really quickly so seeing the same memes again and again would frustrate her way more than it did frustrate Coco.
And lastly she has really high expectations to the quality of her shows. Having to work with shitty memes is really just poison for her.
Phoenix down had some decent ones but that was a unique thing.

https://twitter.com/takanashikiara/status/1403828069861924866

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyfJw1B2wdM

Seems pre-chats are back on the menu.

>>5006072
It does make me feel bad, like I could do more for chicken and the community dealing with doxniggers here and in other places. But it's not my responsibility. I just report shit here because it bothers me and I don't want to see it here, but elsewhere I just don't have that motivation anymore.

>>5006307
Have been for a while. Like last 2 or 3 streams

>>5006072
I prefer to not report it, let someone else do it, i got 3 days because of a uninformed jannie.

>>5006307
I just looked and was immediately reminded how gay prechat is.

>>5006344
I only ever got 24 hours for spam reporting a certain user who replied to their own post over 30 times.

>>5006375
>pre-chat is cancer
t. pre-chat lurker

>>5006344
BS. When I'm bored and browse split threads I average 1-2 reports per MINUTE, yes, not joking I'm for real. I have never in my entire life been banned or even warned for reporting. Just don't be a retard and report people who don't do anything wrong.
Talking about RMT = report. Shitting on a chuuba = report ( yes it's actually against the rules) spamming threads = report. Making threads or talking abouit things that are off topic = report. It's really easy.

>>5006375
It is indeed gay but I lurk there too. Sometimes it's fun to hang out with normies and see their opinion on shit.

>>5006466
I thought the fake stream when she was traveling was fun, and I think she might have even noticed me, but I generally avoid it.

Thinking about the Uno collab „drama“ made me realize, did management scold her for her generally having too much collabs back then?
I feel like her Collabs/total streams ratio developed in reverse, basically anyone else starts doing mostly solo streams, then does more collabs (like mori in the past weeks for example) Kiaras development seems to be reversed.
When will we ever see Kiara do more collabs again?

>>5006598
>did management scold her for her generally having too much collabs back then?

No. It was literally Kiara herself who said she stops organizing collabs but will accept invitations from others. Problem is that all the introverts in her Gen can't be bothered so nothing happened. Instead ID asked EN for collabs because they were starving.
In hindsight I'm pretty sure this was planned by the chickin. To get back at the people who were mad. Reminder that people later on begged her to start organizing collabs again.

>>5006598
It's possible. She said she wanted to make collabs her thing after the Uno collab and then retracted that and stopped collabing for the most part.
When asked about it she said it was "not only" the backlash of the Uno collab.

I think she also mentioned that management didn't want them to collab with the same person outside of EN too often.
And with the now very much confirmed and recently lifted Coco collab ban it seems the EN management mingled quite a bit with that aspect.

Never forget this management autism is why EN has a seperate MC server and Kiara has to wander around in a barren wasteland with no one online.
And if EnMa hadn't fucked up paying rent that one time they would still be stuck on Realms without any chance to ever connect to the JP server.

>>5006668
I'm just glad she made an effort to improve

>>5006668
>but will accept invitations from others

I think she was genuine about wanting to be invited since people made a stink that she put collabs she organises on her channel.
Sadly it backfired because 90% of Hololive is intimidated by her Gigastacy energy so no one invited her.

>>5007108
They could connect to the JP server once they slay the ender dragon. kiara is ready and so is Ina. Mori Ame and shark need to hurry the fuck up.

>>5007205
I think it's a mix of both. She is not blind. She saw that a lot of people begged her to organize collabs again but she didn't do a thing for many many weeks. Knowing her it was at least partly planned. As in "next time you make STUPID criticism remember there are consequences" and she would be right. Most of the criticism was retarded. Like the baby talk for example. It's not her fault that round took almost 30 min to finish.

>>5007118
Depends who you ask. There are many people who don't like her new collabs. There is at least 1 guy here who hates them actually. I don't like her new collabs either but I'm not that autistic about it. I still watch them most of the time. I just wish it was more about Kiara like it used to be.

>>5007224
NOW they can but only after switching from Realms to a server, something management tried to prevent for quite a while.

Ame did build PPP at least, inefficient as it is it was still useful. I think Kiara even used some of its drops to level some clerics or something.

Gura found a fortress and got some blazes. (And she made a trident farm which while interesting is not too useful.)

Mori Mori Mori...

Everyone can get diamond armor by combining Ina's iron farm with Phoenixton so they should be ready to go at any time.
I hope this will be their next full EN collab - but it will probably be a long stream so Kiara will be tired as fuck before long

>>5007328
And it got us some sufferkino that the likes of Ina and any reasonable person could enjoy.

>>5006598
I was checking schedules because I felt she was doing less collabs recently as well but she's pretty consistent at minimum 1 collab per week with the exception of digikomi, and often 2.
Going back from April 1st there was
>Full Gen outfits, Aki Holotalk
>NO COLLAB
>ITT/Clubhouse, Holotalk with Suisei
>ITT
>ITT, Full EN collab(Outfit reveal week)
>ITT, O'riends, Roboco Holotalk
>Digikomi
>ITT(Final), Full EN(TTRPG), Watame/Iofi/Mori, A-chan Holotalk
>Reine collab, Ina Cats
>Tamaki ( this week)
I don't really see how she could or should have consistly 2 or more collabs per week since they take quite a bit of organisation

>>5007388
Giving the other girls a better chance to talk is just inherently a better thing for her to do

>>5007471
Ah fuck and I completely forgot the Usaken collab on Botan's channel that was this week as well.

>>5007473
I know but the problem is that they didn't talk. At least in the beginning. That's the reason why she was filling dead air in the first place. I agree that after 7 months the others finally got a little more talkative though. If you compare her collabs with JP it's on an entirely different level, because those people actually talk. Or watch recent Reine collab, same shit. It's not that Kiara is talking too much, it's that her gen mates don't talk enough.

>>5007558
The Takamori TTRPG episode too

>>5007224
Honestly mori and gura would just stand on the sidelines anyways, dying at the hands of endearment or falling in the void, they could be written off since the server went online.
Not sure about Ame, she should be okay, so they have no real reason not to just kill the dragon now.
>>5007205
>>5007328
But honestly why can’t she just please go with it, „yeah I organize the collabs so they are on my channel sucks for you if you have a lazy oshi.“ If she really wants to dunk on those trashtalking Fagotts she should just do 5h superchat reading afterwards. I would kneel

>>5007328
>Like the baby talk for example.
I'm still impressed she went ham on it, even with a lighter punishment most of the other girls would have begged for mercy after 15 minutes (except maybe Ina).
The "shit your pants" line wasn't even that bad and it was a single line in a 90 minute stream.

>>5007473
If only they'd take the chance. In 1-on-1 it might be ok but fullEN is terrible for the first 30 minutes until Kiara stops trying to hold back.
She needs to give them topics to talk about because Mori, Ame and Gura can not deal with having the spotlight on them in a larger collab and Ina just doesn't talk that much.

>>5007661
How the fuck did I forget to list that one, that was my overall favourite "regular" stream in months

>>5007603
>>5007717
It's better to let there be dead air than dominate the air

>>5007471
When you list it like that it does look like way more than it feels.
I think it's because her solo streams are so long in comparison

>>5007685
the superchats not being a separate stream was a legit criticism and a good change to stop doing that in collabs

>>5007603
The UsaKen collab truely highlighted how massive that problem is in EN.
Kiara was so amazed that people can just get together in discord, plan to do something and then do it in like five minutes. And be entertaining and engaging afterwards - woah!

>>5007827
Thing is EN did that on minecraft with Gura, Kiara was just left out due to timezone

>>5007800
Yeah objectively you are right, It was more a fun though than an actual whish

>>5007827
I really hate that the one time this happened with EN Kiara was the only one who was not there

>>5007744
Not really. They are entertainers, it's their job to entertain not to be silent together in discord.

And Kiara doesn't try to dominate, she gives them topics to talk about plenty of times but they are just not able to pick up on that.
In their early collabs Kiara would outright engage Mori or Ina to get them to talk but she stopped doing that once she noticed that they can't deal with that.
So now she does the thing the JP holos do where she talks about something related to her to throw a topic into the room for someone to pick it up. But they don't pick it up and /hlgg/ EOPs go MEMEME.

>>5007988
Kiara throwing out bits and conversation topics only for them to actually get picked up by Reine was insane. Is that what we could be having, people who actually respond?

>>5007988
>>5007744

>>5008070
Reine was a little bit of a 'yes man' kind of. She did a lot of repeating and following of Kiara and mostly never lead the joke/conversation. It was still a pretty good collab, but I know for sure people will pick that apart even if the rest of EN would do the same. Birb crew forever. I gotta do my reps for the Subaru collabs

>>5007988
>And Kiara doesn't try to dominate, she gives them topics to talk
There's giving topics then there's giving topics and using that to talk yourself.

>>5008181
Talking about yourself is always better than talking about others, especially in front of an audience. Especially if the others can't deal with being in the spotlight either.

>>5008244
optics wise which is what matters in this case is to not talk more than others.

>>5008293
But the others don't talk. Also that's not how media and entertainment works >>5008071

>>5008181
>pummel party collab
>minigame about cars with eurobeat-like music
>kiara: "There is a eurobeat version of Hinotori."
>mori who had a fucking remix contest and uses remixes from that - including several eurobeat remixes - as her outro: "Uhuh."

What is a pheonix to do?

>>5008293
What matters in this case and all other cases is to deliver a good stream.
Don't confuse shitposters in /hlgg/ with how most people conceive the streams. Most viewers want to be entertained, they don't care who does the heavy lifting.

>>5008293
why would you nerf yourself down so much? if the others can't collab then fuck em and carry the thing by yourself. when there are 4 blind people and 1 who can see why would that one close her eyes to be equal, instead of leading the blind ones the way?

>>5007862
>>5007870
Although I was aware how Irrational my reaction was, and that there is nor really any gain in playing the blame game.
At that time I was very Angry with kiara not being part of the collab, but I guess that was maybe how teammates felt during the UNO thing?
Timezones are a bitch

This soundpost is a nice example. Why does shit like this not happen in EN? Especially with takamori? Why does she synergize with watame better than all of EN combined?

>>5008164
Yeah, Reine is a bit timid and she seems to truely respect Kiara and maybe even admire her a bit.
But despite that she was pulling her weight and did her best to contribute.

Turducken will be her ultimate proving ground by I think Kiara and especially Subaru will make sure she isn't overwhelmed by their energy.

>Today might be filled with lots of grinding but should be fun anyway! ALSO BRASS KNUCKLES TIME

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
It hought it's gonna be a short stream because she wanted to do the grinding offline. Actually she wanted to do it last stream but concernkeks told her not do. Why do I have suffer through another long ass boring yakuza stream. When does this finally end ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

>>5008926
samefagging - I think yakuza to me is what Apex is to Teakeks. It's pure suffering, a weekly stream slot waste and I just want it to be over

>>5008765
Besides Kiara none of the girls have the right character for that.
TakaMori thrives on the exact opposite of that. Mamaloni would not be so into it if it was just your normal TeeTee stuff we have seen better with NoeFlare or OkaKoro. For Mamaloni alone I am willing to cut TakaMori some slack.
AmeTori is a bit more perverted than that. They had some great moments during Super Bunny Man but Ame doesn't seem to be into /u/ shit so there are limits.
SameTori is sometimes mother and child sometimes big sister and little sister. After Kiara established her dominance with the teaching streams it's hard for them to go for something like that now.

TakoTori is Kiara's best collab duo (and second best in Myth overall after GurAme) but it thrives more on banter than on tee tee.

>>5009003
I actually have higher hopes for this one.
Problem with Yakuza is that it takes too much of her attention. A grinding stream could be like the Ryza streams or auxillary battles in FE3H where she paid little to no attention to the game and just talked to chat the entire time.

>>5008765
Chicken understands the HoloJP way of entertainment whereas the others just treat collabs like normal streams with a friend. A majority of Kiara's better collabs have been outside of EN which is simply because her collab partners are more experienced with putting on a good show for the audience which is why she feels more comfortable doing unique stuff like the clip you linked with senpais since they're the most likely to understand what she's trying to do and play along. It also helps that Kiara synergizes well with high energy people like Subaru or people who are sweethearts to others like Watame.

tl;dr EN needs to stop being autistic and take more initiative or play along with Kiara more

>>5009091
I actually agree with that but the problem is that this just prolongs the game even more. i just kinda want her to rush through it. I will also play this game myself at some point ( first yakuza 0) but I absolutely can't stand it shen someone is streaming it. It's so fucking boring to me.

>>5009122
>tl;dr EN needs to stop being autistic and take more initiative or play along with Kiara more
but do the western audiences even want that cause it doesn't seem that way

>>5007800
Literally why? I never cared about that

>>5009174
HUUUUGE amount of westerners watch JP clips they care about entertainment. Rest of EN are more like twitch streamers behind an avatar t b h

>>5009205
we're Kiara fans we like her SC reading, others just want to watch the collab itself and not listen to "harborline dankeschon"

>>5009205
Nah he is right on that one. If she wants to read SC all she has to do is end the stream (so a VOD can be created) and immediately start a new one for SC reason. It's really not a big deal and takes seconds. I can understand when the other 4 fanbases don't wanna sit through 3 hours of SC reading just to be able to access the VOD

>>5009265
>Rest of EN are more like twitch streamers behind an avatar t b h
and I hate to go NUMBERS but that's what the NUMBERS show them wanting instead of a let's face it more Japanese style that Kiara has.

>>5009290
You can stop the vod once the sc starts

>>5009333
>and I hate to go NUMBERS but that's what the NUMBERS show them wanting instead of a let's face it more Japanese style that Kiara has.
>The person most like a typical JP holo has the last numbers
>The 4 girls that are more like twitch streamers(minus Ina) have the biggest

It hate it.

>>5009344
>You can stop the vod once the sc starts
the vod doesn't exist until she ends her SC

>>5009406
she also gets shat on here for being anti hololive (because she isn't twitch like enough) even though she is actually much much closer to what hololive stands for

>>5009174
Majority of EN viewers really won't give shit and will thumbs up whatever collab happens whether it was bad or not. The exceptions only being when collabs end up being super scuffed and even then most people will still say it was great. I'm worried that if the ENs keep full gen collabs the same as they are now they would only decrease in quality and viewership since everyone would just play things super safe to avoid shit like UNO. Maybe this is exactly what normalfags want but I for one wouldn't enjoy those collabs as much.

>>5009473
ARE YOU TRYING TO MAKE ME MAD

>>5009473
>she also gets shat on here for being anti hololive
I've never really seen that if anything it's because she's too much like HololiveJP instead of using the opportunity to make HololiveEN it's own equal and not subservient

>>5009462
Wait until she finishes reading SCs duh

>>5009568
>why is she not playing apex like the others?
>why is she not playing skyrim?
>why is she going to digikomi?
>why is she collabing outside of hololive?
>why is she not like the rest of EN and be like a twitch streamer?
>she MUST be anti hololive!
i have seen a few threads like this. people shit on her because she isn't like the other EN girls.

>>5009665
>Wait until she finishes reading SCs duh
People don't want to wait that's the issue

>>5009205
For me as a Kiara only watcher it's nice to know that collab streams will be short while solo streams will be long, makes it easier to plan around.

>>5009333
There are other factors like her choice of game and streaming time as well. EU times are dead hours for vTubers sadly.
Which is why Kiara doesn't want to collab with a German vTuber. I don't know if there even is one with 10k subscribers, the difference in audience is just too massive because vTubing is only starting in the EU.

Kiara's fanbase is also scattered all across the globe at watches her at very different times while others have a more concentrated fanbase.
Kiara does get a pretty hefty amount of VOD views though. The last Yakuza stream managed to crawl to over 100k views when it had 63k after it was finished.

>>5009568
You must not visit /hlgg/ or the catalog that often. Since she mentioned Vei there is almost always someone around saying that Kiara should be in vShojo instead of Hololive.

>>5009496
The Uno collab was a massive success though, it's somewhat close to 1M views which is amazing for chicken

>>5009568
Well she fills in the niche almost being a JP holo but not quite which is partly what I enjoy about her. It makes her stand out a lot more from EN especially with her idol-like stuff. /vt/ has always been against Kiara from the get go so anything she does will make schizos mad and cause them to blow shit way out of proportion. It's just how the newfag EN viewerbase is here since a large majority of posters only started watching hololive when EN came out and don't treat what the JPs do as seriously

>>5009712
That's not Kiaras fault. She has to get through the SCs one way or another. She could set up a guerrilla reading but that would hurt her own numbers

>>5009727
>I don't know if there even is one with 10k subscribers, the difference in audience is just too massive
Wouldn't this actually be amazing as fuck? Imagine if Kiara collabs with some indie vtuber with 3k subs and they host it on her channel and she suddenly has 5k+ viewers. This would be amazing and get her A LOT of friends

>>5009727
>There are other factors like her choice of game and streaming time as wel
That's the "Japanese style" I'm talking about
>Kiara's fanbase is also scattered all across the globe at watches her at very different times while others have a more concentrated fanbase.
Mori has a similar situation but her LIVE views are higher and she's less Japanese.
Look I like Kiara she's my favorite but her being last is no mistake the western audience isn't as receptive to just how Jap she is, hell she talks about how people don't give her Karaoke a chance when her she at first constantly sang shit like Hello Project. I don't want her to change for the numbers just that it's her "fault" she's last. Since the market she's advertising to isn't what wants her.

>>5009733
Oh of course. I was just referring to that collab being what caused Kiara to shift her approach towards collabs (for the worst imo). Since then full gen collabs never had the same spark since we all know Kiara is holding back because of the retarded backlash she got from UNO

>>5009774
>Well she fills in the niche almost being a JP holo but not quite which is partly what I enjoy about her
Same but it's a niche but an unpopular niche.
>It makes her stand out a lot more from EN especially with her idol-like stuff.
idolshit is not well regarded in the west.

>>5009869
Her biggest problem are her stream times. I know why she does it but it's still a problem for most people. I'm a schizo so I can catch all of that, but most normies can't. Ina has very very high numbers ( even higher than mori on average I believe?) because she usually always streams at around the same time. It's not so random like Kiara's. One day she streams at 1pm, next day it's 11pm, next day 4pm (her times) and so on.

>>5009727
>Which is why Kiara doesn't want to collab with a German vTuber. I don't know if there even is one with 10k subscribers, the difference in audience is just too massive because vTubing is only starting in the EU.
Didn't she wanted to collab with some finnish indie? I dunno how many subs she has but Kiara for sure has way more than her. She's open to making friends regardless of >numbers
Her game choices are a big factor in her views (among other things like her voice). Her streaming times actually may be less of a factor since she switched them around many times in the past to see if she would get a bump from streaming in more NA friendly hours and she never got that bump she wanted

>>5007717
I honestly thought the "shit those pants" was kinda funny, even for just the shock of everyones reactions. I personally like how much she swears, feels more genuine. That's a thing that kinda makes me not watch the other EN cause they either have to stop themselves from swearing, or like say it under their breath.

>>5009995
Her stream times really aren't that random, it's all just before noon North America which is dogshit timeslot for the market she is in.

She actually has a huge ass EU fan base. EU times are also some what close to JP prime times I believe. It's actually NA prime that hurt her numbers

>>5010051
scatological humor is not well regarded so of course people fucking hated it we aren't Germans after all. It wasn't the swearing it was the shit

>>5010109
>She actually has a huge ass
we know

>>5009995
As someone who "diet oshi"s Kiara, I can feel that.

I really enjoy her streams, but I'm constantly playing archive catchup because her MC streams are at like 11 UTC-4 and run for like 4 hours.

>>5010109
>She actually has a huge ass EU fan base.
Kiara said NA is her largest also wow 7 percent instead of 3 percent isn't much also yuropoors don't donate at a remotely impactful rate.

>>5010142
Is it really like a popular type of humor in German? Like is her making the jokes really a cultural thing?

>>5010177
She said that months ago in a members stream and even then it was already outdated information. I don't think you realize how many krauts and french people watch her. I'm not saying they are the largest (they probably are) but they are huge for sure

>>5009869
Ah ok, I understand now.
Streaming times are still an obstacle but yeah, most of what she does does not have broad appeal.

Thankfully the KFP is crazy loyal with some deep pockets so she can for now just continue on doing what she wants to do. And I think hitting 1M took a load off her shoulders - she reached it last but not so far behind and more importantly she did not fail to reach it.

>>5010031
Lumy is connected to Merryweather a (somewhat) known artist. She is on the radar of many people despite being indie. I'm not sure if she only streams on Merry's channel but she does stream there - and that channel has 945k subscribers (although mostly not for her).
The problem with how small DE vTubers are is that they would get completely stomped by the KFP. It's not like ID where HoloID was barely bigger than other vTubers, Kiara is part of the big league.

>>5010231
You mean like babies shitting their pants? What kind of jokes do you exactly mean?

>>5010287
shit jokes in general

>>5010287
no idea, I have just heard that like scatilogical humor is more of a thing in German and was wondering if that was really the case

>>5010319
Yeah but what specifically? Honestly I don't even really remember any shit jokes aside from the baby thing right now kek

>>5010244
>'m not saying they are the largest (they probably are)
a few weeks ago she said NA was the largest, also you can look at superchats EU isn't that relevant. Euros don't fucking matter

>>5010341
>I don't even really remember any shit jokes aside from the baby thing right now kek
there was the one about shitting on Gura during their AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA collab

>>5010352
Her live numbers are definitely dominated by euros. Vods are most likely mutts. SC no idea. Keep in mind many euro donate in US because euro is way stronger than USD. 100 euro equal 121 USD. USD compared to euro is like comparing australian dollars to US dollars.

>>5010442
>Her live numbers are definitely dominated by euros. Vods are most likely mutts.
The views immediately after a stream and vods a while later aren't that crazy different
>Keep in mind many euro donate in US
doubtful not every goes for an ARS VPN

>>5010352
>a few weeks ago
no? that was a member stream and that was months ago. actually i believe during the tamaki interview she said she didn't check for a very very long time and that she got lots of new EU as well as flips and korean viewers

>>5010177
There are a bunch of people constanly throwing akas in € and a bunch of people writing in German despite donating in other currencies.

>>5010231
Not really. Germans just don't run in fear from a turd. Some dude from the US saw that, concluded since that is different from him it must mean Germans love shit and published an article about it 20 or 30 years ago.

>>5010352
In the Tamaki collab Kiara said she has no idea about the composition of her viewership since she never looks at that.

>>5010510
>doubtful not every goes for an ARS VPN
setting up ARS is way harder than US. proxies are free, good speed and everywhere. For ARS you actually need a new identity with a matching credit card (cause paypal won't work) and a paid VPN. As you said 99% of people get filtered by that.

>>5010518
>>5010549
>that was a member stream and that was months ago.
pretty sure she mentioned it during the JP minecraft server stream

>>5010582
>setting up ARS is way harder than US. proxies are free
and most people that donate don't proxy at all
>>5010549
you know Americans can learn German right? USD dominates her SC euros are irrelevant

It's somewhere in here but I'm to lazy to read through all of this again. If you really care see for yourself. She talks about having a high number of EU and a lot of new Korean viewers.

>>5010646
Please man you telling me the majority of her german speaking audience are mutts instead of krauts?

>>5010549
>Germans just don't run in fear from a turd.
and by "don't run in fear" they have shit covered sex. Face it krauts are degenerate and that kind of shit doesn't fly in English areas

>>5010646
Honestly i can understand using a proxy for SCs, Euros get fucked over hard by exchange rates to colors.

>>5010689
ah so your'e just anti Kraut, that's why you shit talk her EU viewers all the time. Now it makes sense. Where are you from?

>>5010688
No, I'm saying the krauts that don't donate in Euro are likely mutts, while they might be more vocal the Europeans are a minority.

>>5008926
Imma try to spin this positively for you if you need help coping. For Kiara, the "worst" part of Yakuza is mostly just when they go on another 30 minute lore drop of people just standing around talking vaguely about complicated political intrigues. You know how it goes, we already talked about the game/series pacing issues, because it comes up every other time. That's where her eyes glaze over, she's getting bored and starts to whiiiiiine, because yeah that shit ain't fun and she's bad at dealing with having to pay attention and be silent (you can almost see her struggle through the screen, should I talk? I've been just nodding along, not understanding anything, for over ten minutes now. But this is an ~important cutscene~, so I can't interrupt. Uuuugh when is this finally over?). Which makes it (the game, her stream, whatever) come off worse than it really is, because for how bad these segments leave a noticable impression, they're not THAT much of the total playtime, and the rest is usually actually an at least good to great at best stream.
So when the game is actually not in loredump hell, but just in regular walking around/ questing/ battling gameplay, she's actually quite relaxed and has fun (or at least has not visibly no fun), because there she's free to talk about anything she wants, either on the game (if something noteworthy is happening) or off the game when there isn't, and instead fill the air with one of her cute tangents or whatever else she wants to talk about at the time.
So yeah, just hold your breath and "endure" it, if you must, because it'll only be around two more marathon streams (so, normal streams for her), until we are all free from it again. Hopefully she takes some lessons from that experience in the future (we kinda already had the same with FE, which also dragged a bit in the end), even if just to pace herself better and probably be more careful before committing to yet another 60h RPG playthrough. I certainly wouldn't mind more varied content in the future, doesn't mean she has to become a FOTM chaser like everyone else, but at least shorter / one-off games from different genres would be a better palate cleanser and make for more digestiable content in the long run (not everyone is willing to commit the same hours watching, or hopping on as an outsider in part 643 of a 185249367 part big RPG which at the end not only the audience is already burnt out on, but she herself is, and the stream quality suffers - also those tend to needlessly occupy too much slots in an already precious schedule time, which could be used better instead of "wasted"). For how much she says she "likes" playing RPGs, it's certainly sometimes not readily apparent why, or what she actually likes about them, if she has a bad time dealing with some of the staple aspects of the genre (heavy/dry lore she's averse to getting into, or complex mechanics she's not interested to learn, etc.). I mean, sure, if in the end it's mainly just about ~pretty anime girls~ for her, those aren't exclusive to rpgs anymore, she could for example go back to easier mobile games any time (disclaimer: do not go back to mobile games, chimken).

>>5010718
>Honestly i can understand using a proxy for SCs, Euros get fucked over hard by exchange rates to colors.
Polish get fucked over the hardest an aka is $135, still normies with who the twitch donation culture Hololive is making money off of don't proxy it's not in their nature remember this is the same generation that doesn't know how to torrent.

>>5010721
It's not anti kraut to acknowledge cultural difference is humor. Germs are just more into shit than Americans. It's like how Jap humor is pretty horrible since they never evolved past abbott and costello style, or in nipponesse Manzai.

>>5010837
>I'm not anti kraut dude I just call them germs
>Hey man krauts eat shit all day did you know?
>Hey I'm a huge south park fan, did you know that gingers are evil?

>>5010773
I mean I actually SC and member in euro because at the end I want to support her, but if I wanted to bring something up say asking some specific question about the TTRPG or something along those lines I'd have to put down ~60$ for a pinky.

>>5010921
I member her in Euro but donate in USD as well.

>>5010837
>Jap humor is pretty horrible
Sakura Gummy Long Long Man is the greatest romantic comedy of our time, shut your mouth!

>>5010910
never said you guys eat shit just that you're more open to it. Also why the fuck are you bringing up south parth? The whole point of this conversation was how culture humor differences which 100% exist and is a reason for Kiara's shit jokes not landing well in English

>>5010743
She isn't into numbers as much as one would think and just plays what she wants to play. Which is often JRPGs.

I hope at least her positive interactions with Watame help her overcome her "I don't have an excuse to stream on the JP MC server" autism.

>>5010837
Dein Köder ist Scheiße. Hier, nimm dein (Du) und verpiss dich.

>>5009122
Bringing back an old post that expands a bit on the apparent "lack" of EN chemistry that makes her come off as worse than she really is, and why Kiara seems to "work" better in JP collabs:

One thing that makes her let's call it "polarizing", is that she's ESL (or ETL if you want), which can come off as weird and arkward sometimes (if you like her you find her stumbling over words and sometimes putting out the wrong ones cute, if you don't like her you always want to misinterpret it into some malicious meaning).
The second strike is that she's not just any kind of ESL, but unfortunately austra(lian), so she gets that added debuff of germanic sperg mentality which combined with her less than perfect command of english (see above) cause her to blurt out things sometimes that can sound rather blunt and harsh, especially when you are already a hater and committed to look for and interpret every little thing she says negatively and thus your confirmation bias makes her look mean-spirited, when in reality that's just how krauts riff and banter with each other in a friendly way.
Her being the only EN who didn't grew up in North America makes her also unaccustomed to some things like cultural differences that the others share naturally among themselves, so she can come off sometimes as the odd one out that doesn't really fit the "vibe" of the group and makes her an easier target to dislike.
And the third strike is that she's a social extrovert - sure, her actual fans might know that's only by superficial appearances, because inside she's actually just a messy bundle of insecurities, but compared to the others who are all varying degrees of introverts and autismos, so to any casual onlookers she again sticks out like a sore thumb in the group. See for example the common complaint that "she's too loud" and "she talks to much" in collabs, and while it is fair to say that she has (had? she's gotten better over time) trouble adjusting to the "vibe" of the others, she has that type of take-charge personality that's necessary to drive a group collab forward so it's not just a flat sludge of "uuuuhm"s, *silence*, "errr..."s *silence* and "sooo.. what do we do now?"s. Again, that's not something that's gonna be liked by everyone, especially on something like 4chan, where the concentration of autists (and thus, people who probably share a vibe of an other girl better) is higher than normal, therefore she attracts more hate for it.

>>5009122
>>5011089

pt.2

But when you actually understand what she's doing by talking "so much" (instead of just disliking it by prejudice and thinking it's narcissism or whatever) is that she's actually constantly asking questions to the others and offering conversation topics for the others to involve themselves in - but many times, no one is actually biting and responding to what she initiates (see autismos and introverts), so it kinda just awkwardly trails off and she is left hanging and looks bad.
Then you have to remember that she is actually molded in the japanese style of group collab dynamics, by her previous idol experience etc. In JP, it's usual (and even expected) to interject frequently (aizuchi) as it shows you're listening. Interrupting if there's a joke opportunity, talking over each other and getting fired up is also not seen as seen as "rude" as in the west but rather what the nips think makes for an entertaining to watch group dynamic for the audience. And also a lot of japanese comedy tends to naturally gravitate into a tsukkomi-boke mindset: someone says something stupid, someone retorts bluntly, everybody laughs. And Kiara fills both roles as necessary. If there's an opening for a retort, she takes it (which again, if you don't know what this is supposed to be, can come off as just being a rude and bitchy to westerners), or if no one is offering, she's not afraid to make herself the fool and invite the others to make fun of her (which, if they don't, just makes her look stupid).
See also her pushing for batsu games, funny "punishments" for losing a game, which is another staple of JP entertainment. No japanese Holo for example would ever complain about this, for example, they know what to do and join in, but if you have only westerners who don't play along, it falls flat and comes off very poorly and arkward (see for example the Puyo collab where Mori was a total stick in the mud about it, or the infamous shitshow from the Uno collab. In HoloJP it would've been no problem and everybody has fun when the losers of a round have to go "babu babu" or "ooga booga" for the next game, they all play along, but apparently the rest of the ENs aren't quite there yet). That's why so many of Kiara's JP collabs work better than her EN group ones, the JPs know what she's doing, because she's doing the japanese entertainment style they're all familiar with, so it's much less arkward.
Now, of course, it's totally fair to say then well Kiara is still at fault for trying to use the "wrong" mentality in a different setting where it doesn't work and that she should adapt to them, not the opposite way, but she has gotten better at adjusting. Sure, maybe not totally perfect and fast enough that the haters who already set their opinion in stone from a bad first impression and don't give the chance to reconsider her.

>>5011056
Yeah the only time she cares about numbers is for projects she works hard on

>>5011089
>>5011131
I swear this split is the only place where anons can consistently write essays explaining the intricacies of Kiara's personality

>>5011224
The discord was the same until it became a bannable offense cause it would always spiral into doomposting for hours at a time.

>>5010688
There was that one time where the USSR uhh...
Anyways, my family escaped religious persecution long before that.

https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=4809140

>>5011345
Not that bad desu

>>5010837

Germans are not really "into" shit, any more or less than their european neighbors, it may just appear that way to american eyes because we also don't shy away from the topic and faint at the mere mention of a natural body function like hysterical puritan americans who seem to need a fainting couch everytime they're reminded that poop even exists.
And even for the meme that there is (was? I'm not interested in keeping up with stuff like that) a greater than average scat fetish scene in Germany especially, that's probably, like it is with most of these things, a small but overactive minority, which taints the impression for the rest, but be assured, if you tried to bring that up to any normie here he'd also think you're a weirdo.

>>5011394
>And even for the meme
That meme comes from south park, that's why I mentioned it.

>>5011089
>Her being the only EN who didn't grew up in North America makes her also unaccustomed to some things like cultural differences that the others share naturally among themselves, so she can come off sometimes as the odd one out that doesn't really fit the "vibe" of the group
the Jackbox collab really showed it off and Ina's cannuckness as well to a degree but not nearly as major also Kiara's time in Japan makes her great at reading a Japanese room as that one shitty game showed but Japanese and German cultural norms aren't American and that's the majority of Hololive.

>>5011131
>because she's doing the japanese entertainment style

Or simply just any entertainment style. I don't think "4 people chill in discord if the game can't carry their conversation" qualifies as entertainment.
I watched quite a bit of A Hat In Time with Ame and Ina and if that amount of dead air is considered fine western entertainment I'll gladly get called a weeb for prefering the JP style of "actually doing something to entertain your viewers".
I like Ina and Ame on their own well enough but that collab was just painful.

No wonder InAme shippers are even more insane than TakaMori shizos, going full existencial angst and exploitable detective vs. possessed priestess when the reality is just two people who can't talk sitting next to each other.

>>5011224
Pretty sure I saw these posts in /hlgg/ before.
Also her anti threads are way better at writing essays on Kiara's personality.

>>5011394
>we also don't shy away from the topic
that by definition makes you more into it numbnuts
>a greater than average scat fetish scene in Germany
literal proof
>>5011430
The "meme" is older than south park

>>5011394
I believe it's Mozart's fault. filthy austrians.

>>5010743
Thanks for explaining. Yeah I agree she should be careful with starting huge RPGs. That's why I don't want her to start 100h games like dragon age or the mass effect trilogy. She should stick to shorter, 10-20h games. Games she can finish in 3-4 streams. Or about 2 weeks if she streams them twice per week. Those would be perfect.

Look at biomutant. I didn't think this game was shit at all. It was entertaining, got good numbers, she said she had fun and she is already 30 or even 40% through. She could finish it in 2-3 streams.
BUT she should never cancel games. That's why I want her to rush through yakuza instead of canceling it even though I absolutely hate it. Canceling games is just a shitty thing to do that will always make tons of people mad.

Don’t German toilets have a poop inspection shelf?

>>5011489
>I don't think "4 people chill in discord if the game can't carry their conversation" qualifies as entertainment.
To most people that actually does. Shocker right? Some people just want to chill with a stream

>>5011632
There are two models in Germany and one of them has a shelf. It's not for inspection it's to prevent splashing.

>>5011536
No1 cares what a few degenerates do. Mutts have the biggest cuckindustry by far they literal invented it. They make the most degenerate porn, even more than japs. That doesn't mean that every single mutt is into that shit. Calm the fuck down. Just because she made that shitting pants joke as baby Kiara you got your feelings hurt or what?

>>5011632
Yes they do

>>5011692
Depends on who it is. Some groups can be extremely entertaining just doing free talk.

you guys know that when something is off topic, you should ignore and report, right?

>>5011632
The ones in the 80s did. But this was actually so that you don't get pisswater on your balls when you drop a wigger

>>5011692
And most people are happy watching the 100th clip of Ame cracking a ground pound joke with a wry smile. Ask the teamates if they are proud of that fact.

>>5011799
Is it really offtopic when it's examining Kiara's cultural difference between her and the North American market and why her baby jokes didn't land as well

>>5011692
>Shocker right?
Actually yeah. Why even watch a stream in that case?
If you just want background noise VOD-only stuff still gets made.

I hope we get another power weeb in EN2 so Kiara has someone she can vibe with without feeling quilty about leaving her branch behind.

>>5011632
You don't? Have fun dying of preventable asscancer.

Seriously though, nah those were, at most, a thing of the past and more explained by different building codes, water pressure, tube thickness etc., and not because Germany has a singularly outstanding fecal fascination. But of course, the boring explanation is never as memorable as the le funni meme.

>>5011692
But that's exactly what the other anon was talking about. This is like twitch content but it's on youtube and behind an avatar. and that's why many normies don't get into Kiara because western normies want twitch content. Did you ever see Gura's or Ame's normie fanbase? This is LITERALLY twitch. Of course they can't stand highly concentrated entertainment and idol stuff like Kiara/JP does.

Kiara is basically an JP streamer but who speaks in english plus ahs her own very unique, great special flavor on top of it.

As long as americans keep bleching their anus(i), the germans are fine to keep the fecal jokes.
Bird shit/shit bird is even on topic, so blame Mori.

>>5011934
>Actually yeah. Why even watch a stream in that case?
We're Kiara fans our expectations are different. Some people just wanna "vibe" and that's pure vibing with just small bits of casualness instead of no dead air constant attempts to entertain. I like Kiara's style but it just isn't normie friendly.
>I hope we get another power weeb in EN2 so Kiara has someone she can vibe with without feeling quilty about leaving her branch behind.
same, would be fun seeing her have someone to constantly bounce off of. Look I'm not saying I don't like Kiara or her content just that as we all know she filters people.

>>5012198
>Bird shit/shit bird
not really shitbird and bird shit are two different things one is using an insult just like how fuckbird doesn't mean birds fucking and the other literal shit

I personally very much enjoy the Yakuza streams, but one thing I noticed is that Kiara plays RPGs in a very meandering way.
As an easy comparison from a quick look Pekora has reached the end of chapter 6 after 2 streams. (meeting the chinese twink boss for the first time)

>>5012178
I was saying his "I don't think ... qualifies as entertainment." is a very ignorant view of the common person

>>5012329
Yeah, she takes in the scenery and stuff. And don't forget she sometimes outright paused the game to fit in more tangents.
Kiara's solo streams are a lot about talking so her progress is often slow.

Pekora also finishes games fairly quickly by streaming it close together while Kiara spreads out her playthrough a lot which of course means she forgets things between sessions.

>>5011607
>BUT she should never cancel games.

Ah well, seeing as how Ame got flack recently by some shitstirrers because she dropped Nier, I'm just laughing at the absurdity of the situation.

>Some idiots tried to flame Ame because she dropped their beloved bideogayme
>Some idiots tried to flame Kiara because she didn't "appreciate Nier's ending the ~right way~"
and I'm like, holy shit shut the fuck up you faggots (you never liked Kiara in the first place, why should we care about your opinion at all?), if you just want to see anime girls crying at the end of your babbys1st2deep4u game like you yourself did, just go look up literally any of the dozens other playthroughs that are all the same on this, as if you needed any more. People (and I'm even generously assuming they were serious in their outrage here) need to stop getting so invested that they take it as a personal attack when "oh no, she didn't like that thing I liked, now I hate her". I for one rather appreciate that Kiara's ending reaction was something DIFFERENT for once (hell, I didn't even know you could lock yourself out of the final "sacrifice" if you message was negative, so hey you even learn something new) and she spoke her mind instead of just being another unmemorable streamer.

But yeah, "finishing / not dropping" games appears to be a hot button issue for some spergs. Even trying to see it from their side, okay they made time and want this content, so they're going to be disappointed, and that's regrettable. I think most of this can be prevented if you just don't make too much, or any, promises in the first place. Instead make it more clear from the start that some streams are just on a oneshot-basis, or prominently disclaim that it can be iced anytime if you're not really feeling the game anymore/ are burnt out/ want to spend the time rather with something else. It's all about managing the audience's expectation right from the get go. While you still (probably always) get some complainers about being "flaky" or whatever, at least you can say you never broke any promises if you didn't make any in the first place.
Over time, the (remaining) fanbase gets "trained" on that anyway.

>>5011607
>mass effect trilogy
I think that's different because it has FPS elements and Kiara being a novice at FPS would add another entertaining factor also it's a beloved western series instead of more Jap

>>5012878
I didn't play the remaster yet but I can tell you for sure the old versions are not really fps, especiall ME1. Just like in Dragon age, you can always pause the game mid fight, give your allies tasks etc. You can also simply play a "mage" and ignore most of the fps elements.

>>5012932
there would still be some shooting for her to do also it's Kiara do you really expect her to go through that effort of telling her allies to do everything for her

>>5012735
Hey man I agree with your first statement. I also hate people who get mad at you just because you don't play the game §their way" it's retarded. I play through Nier lots of times and because of Kiara's unique way of playing it I learned a lot of things I didn't even know about and it was also entertaining as fuck for me even tho I know the story and everything.
so yeah, I 100% agree with you there.

BUT I absolutely can't stand people who drop games. I just can't. It's a very scummy thing to do. first of all you basicaly "numberfag" new people into your stream who are not really interested in you, but the game. Secondly You fuck up your own fans who were very happy that you finally play their fav game.
Just don't fucking make promises or do it like Kiara does and say right from the start "Hey this will probably not be a series" so people know that and can lower their expectations.

>>5012992
The shooting, or any other "skill based" gameplay in ME can be adjusted downwards to babby mode "I just want to enjoy the story"-difficulty, so I don't think that would be an insurmountable barrier to entry should the chimken ever decide to go into it.

The more prevalent issue for her, and we saw and discussed this regarding Yakuza, is that she gets more put off by badly paced lore drops and dragged out "characters standing around, talking about nothing really interesting" bore-segments. I haven't replayed ME in ages, can anybody tell more about how the narrative structure is, especially compared to Yakuza which can serve as a current example of what NOT to do with her?

And in general, would Mass Effect overall be a good game (I don't want to say "series" yet, let her try one game at first and decide for herself how long she wants to get into it) for her, WHEN (not if, because our thougths on her content style nonwithstanding, she'll probably always have some sort of longer-running rpg series going on) she's going on her next longer adventure?
Or, what RPG would you have her rather play. I don't disagree that I'd rather prefer some shorter, varied games for content, but if it absolutely HAS to be an RPG, I think there are not many better franchises, and many WAY worse ones around. (Like ugh, Dragon Quest for example would be a downright bore, and honestly test my "catch every chicken stream" resolve)

>>5012735
To be fair, in the case of Ame, dropping Nier was not the problem, the problem was being wishy-washy about it and not just telling the truth in the first place. She tends to do that, like the time she pissed off her members when she didn't want to put up a schedule and said cheap lies justifying it. If she wants to be a streamer, putting her foot down should be natural since otherwise she'll get dragged around by her audience and she's not the type who's fine with rolling with it.

But to get back on topic, one of Kiara's strong points is that she's not making promises and if she doesn't feel like doing something, she tells it outright. For example, the German reading videos: she came out and said that she puts in a lot of effort into them and they get meager views, so she's going to do something else that's worth her time more instead, even if it's just a couple more hours of streaming a week.

>>5013431
>The shooting, or any other "skill based" gameplay in ME can be adjusted downwards to babby mode "I just want to enjoy the story"-difficulty, so I don't think that would be an insurmountable barrier to entry should the chimken ever decide to go into it.
which is a good thing since she's never played any FPS getting her behind any gun would make for good content
As for your question I'd want her to play New Vegas. Look I just want her to at least try as Western RPG over a Jap one for a change

>>5013475
To be fair it took her a lot of time to confirm she dropped sunshine, and she did it only on twitter. Youtube-onlyfags may still think she will continue sunshine one day

>>5012735
So fucking true. All it boils down to is, "They didn't react to this part the way I wanted them to!" Why are you even watching someone else play, if not to see their unique perspective on things? They're only after someone who will parrot their own feelings.
Why even make connections with others if you only want yourself reflected back at you?

>>5013431
Story is better and much much better paced for sure. But it also has WAAAAYYYY more story and dialogue. Like...a lot. I don't think this is a game for her. The the trilogy (so all 3 games combined) will also probably take her about 10h to finish. Which is also bad.

Also: I just KNOW there will be lots of bioware fags who get mad at everything she does. I can already see it:

>wtf you didn't romance X, why?
>if you choose this dialogue option you can't do this one quest anymore, please reload!!
>what? why don't you like that guy? He is my fav character don't insult him, reload!
>omfg why did you get this ending instead of the other one?

She should avoid bioware games at all cost

>>5013525
>western games

does Gothic count? Cause she is gonna play it

I'm never trusting a metaposter again.

>>5013813
Meant to say 100h*

>>5013813
>does Gothic count? Cause she is gonna play it
Sure though that will be a german stream so might be weird. I swear why hasn't she done a german collab with Iofi yet

>>5013918
The weird thing is she actually asked chat if that game has english VA. I was like what the fuck does she mean by this? Is she gonna speak german but play the game in english? what?

>>4993141
>>4993575
why did nobody tell me about this
fucking based

>>5013813
>But it also has WAAAAYYYY more story and dialogue.

I think one thing that would make long story/dialogue segments more palatable for her than in Yakuza is that it's not just 30 minutes of watching a cutscene/doing nothing, but you occasionally (or sometimes really often) you get to make a dialogue choice etc., so it's not just as dry and you get to define your character more.
(to be fair, that seems to be generally more prevalent in western rpgs than in japanese ones).

As for your fear of backseatfags getting mad, we shouldn't forget that she's the EN who has a "good"(?) relationship with backseating in chat. Or at least I personally never found it too bad in the past. She often asks for advice, appreciates getting help and is also not afraid to say her mind when she doesn't.

>does Gothic count? Cause she is gonna play it
Yeah she mentioned wanting to try it, mainly just a one-off for nostalgia reasons.
I mean, sure, that's also what she said about WoW, but I really can't see her doing a full Gothic (2 in particular, she mentioned) in the first place

>>5013525
>As for your question I'd want her to play New Vegas. Look I just want her to at least try as Western RPG over a Jap one for a change

Or hey, an even better idea came to me concerning western RPGs - its obvious, Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines. You could probably even make it more enticing to her by how it ties in with their TTRPG campaign and how she could learn more about the world, settings and mechanics by playing it, and it's not too long and drawn-out either that it would be a major time investment, you could get it done in maybe 20-25 hrs.

>>5013918
>I swear why hasn't she done a german collab with Iofi yet

Does Iofi actually -speak- german? Honestly asking, because I've never actually seen her do it (to be fair, I don't watch much Iofi in the first place, so if someone could point me to clips or timestamps, it would be much appreciated). I know she put "german" under her languages in her introduction, but I wondered how much that actually meant. Because there's a world of difference between just having memorized a few phrases like "Guten Tag Fräulein", just to put another checkbox in your CV for vanity reasons, and actually being able of holding just the barest of conversations in a language.

>>5014600
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfFhMB_RK0w

>>5014419
>I think one thing that would make long story/dialogue segments more palatable for her than in Yakuza is that it's not just 30 minutes of watching a cutscene/doing nothing, but you occasionally (or sometimes really often) you get to make a dialogue choice etc., so it's not just as dry and you get to define your character more.
>(to be fair, that seems to be generally more prevalent in western rpgs than in japanese ones).

You make the mistake and think too much about what Kiara likes. Don't get me wrong I love Kiara too and want her to enjoy the games as much as possible. But in the end her job as a streamer is to entertain the audience, not herself. Most people don't like watching half an hour or more of pure dialogue. Because that's why ME is. It has 30 min -1h of action gameplay, then 1 hour of dialogue and repeat.

>As for your fear of backseatfags getting mad, we shouldn't forget that she's the EN who has a "good"(?) relationship with backseating in chat. Or at least I personally never found it too bad in the past. She often asks for advice, appreciates getting help and is also not afraid to say her mind when she doesn't.
It's not her fanbase who will shit on her, it's the newfag who come for the game, not for her (see Nier example) . There will be lots of biowarefags and /v/. When a cute 1m+ sub vtuber girl plays ME there will be high numbers for sure. But also high amount of backseating and hate. I just don't think playing popular RPG mainstream games like this one will be good for her.

>>5011305
> Official Kiara discord
> Can't discuss Kiara
what on Earth is going on in there?

>>5015682
Playing armchair psychologist on a volatile imageboard is already cancerous, i can't imagine how bad it is in a permanent chatroom

>>5015682
It got so bad eventually somebody made a checklist of specific Kiara topics that would get discussed every day

>>5015821
That's what I'm afraid of.
"haha, we're totally not a cult!" was funny at first but now I think they genuinely are one.

>>5015682
Imagine that one dude here ( or used to be here) who always brings up RMT. We talk about Kiara and he immediately bring up RMT and talks about "but she said X in this tweet so I don't think Y would matter if she does Z in her stream" and shit like that.
This what normie discords used to be. Constantly giving hints and bragging about le forbidden knowledge. It's good that mods crack down really hard on this.

>>5015682
That shit would drag down the mood of any conversation really easily, also it is kind of creepy trying to guess how she is or how she's going to respond to situations
I imagine if she was casually watching her discord from a sub account one day and she sees all those people trying to get into her head, that would creep her out

I want her to play Plague tale.
1. for the memes. It's literally about rrats
2. Cute teenage girl main character (huge bonus for Kiara)
3. No politics or anything like that. Just a game.
4. Great graphics and cut scenes as well as a good story
5. Fun to stream/watch cause it doesn't have 1000 hours of dialogue.
6. "short" game. She can finish it in maybe 2 or 3 streams.
7. buff game. Will get good numbers.

>>5016163
Hi Kiara

>>5016210
Yea, you should suggest it in SC, good choice for a game.

>>5008765
Except they do? Mori and Kiara have a lot of teetee moments but most of them are played off for laughs. Like how Mori seemed to want to give Kiara genuine compliments in one of the ITT streams but our best bird was too busy shrieking over game mechanics to notice. You just can’t expect the same teetee formula as others because of their characters. And you have to be socially stunted to not see the difference in synergy between Watame and Kiara and Kiara and the other ENs. Kiara and Watame are obviously just a little closer than acquaintances. There’s a little too much respect between their interactions to say that they’re close. Check Kiara’s interactions with another senpai: Subaru.

chikin

>>5017672
Rude, don't leak her next cover song!

>>5017672
oh shit it's real

>>5017672
>Yakuza is Coco's favorite game series
>September is when the Taiwan yab happened
what did chikm mean by this

>>5011089
So what we need is a northern lass that can handle her banter.

>>5017672
She was singing along to it the other day so probably misclicked the add to playlist button.

>>5034296
she's done this before but with a different song it just means she's planning Karaoke

>>5013969
She plays her JRPGs in English with Japanese VA. Having the VA be a different language than the one she streams in seems to be a theme.

Which is a shame since the English dub is horrible while the German original is decent for a game of the time. But I can see her try to not lose engagement with her audience completely.

If she continues with Gothic (which I'm not sure she will - the controls are extremely filtering) she might switch it around and have English commentary and German VA.

>>5035459
>english dub Gothic
abolutely soulless

>>5035523
She might be in the mindset of "English VA decent, German VA dogshit" since that is how almost all games of the time were.
After the first stream she hopefully notices her mistake and won't be too stubborn to fix it - if she wants to continue that is.

>>5035459
If she wants to play Gothic for her German only Stream and decides to play in English, I am sorry but I will constantly shizo post in the Stream Chat. What an absolute backwards way of thinking, sad thing is I can totally see this happening with this bird brain

>>5033881
Never forget, never forgive. Orange women solidarity!

>>5036372
You will either get banned since she told her mods to crack down on that as well or you will just make her mad and have her dig down harder keeping the English VA for future stream.
You know how stubborn the chicken is when random shizos shout at her.

>>5036372
Why do you care that much? It's just a game. So far it's not even confirmed she'll do the stream. Get a fucking grip, man.

I enjoy her content a lot but because of my college reps and how long her streams are I can't watch her that much.
I'm an EOP so I don't watch JPs and other EN girls are too silent for me. There is not that much happening in their streams:
>I couldn't watch Ame because of timezone and I don't like gremlin humor. I also never got into a parasocial relationship with her so that's that.
>I don't like the games Mori plays and how she plays them. She is too autistic for me and her SC readings are just straight up bad. Also, she was doing coomerbait jokes and streams in the beginning and that's why It left a bad taste in my mouth right from the get go.
>I like Gura's streams. I find her entertaining but the fact that she got too popular too quick made her fanbase just unbearable. I watch her If I find her live but I don't because of my sleeping reps.
>Ina's streams are at perfect hours for me but there is not that much going on in her streams. She has a very chill vibe and doesn't talk that much. I guess that's why I skip her streams and listen to music.
Thanks for reading my blogpost

>>5037375
If you don't have much time that just means you have a ton of VODs you can catch up on. I kinda envy you, when she isn't streaming I'm left without content.

Make sure to watch the TTRPG tutorial and any stream with Ina those are her best collabs and shine a good light on her partners.
Maybe you can get into Ina when you see that she can actually banter with Kiara.

>>5035459
She uses JP voices in JRPGs because she still wants to include her JP bro audience. She has said this several times. She also just prefers the JP voices in general, an opinion majority of her audience shares, which is nice because she sometimes points out when the subs are different from the original dub.

Polka is now Kiara's half-sister. I hope they will collab again, Kiara said Polka deserves better than the scuffed MC collab and wants to do it eventually.

>>5010387
That's a JP culture joke since being pooped on by a bird means good luck
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kin_no_unko

>>5040171
not only in japan. I know it's also a common superstition in germany and russia.

>>5039931
>Polka is now Kiara's half-sister.
Keffy doing hard work again or what?

>>5040840
Yes, she got a 2D upgrade today.
She now has a bigger mouth than even Kiara but her Gangimari are not quite as extreme.

Does anyone have the video in which Kiara reads out the "my dog died let's goooo" message? I remember seeing it but I did not save it for some reason.

>>5041850
Wasn't that Gura?

>>5041850
This? She never read a SC saying "my dog died lets gooo" I think, only Gura did iirc.

>>5041850
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztgi5vV0pCU

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