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>>50580971Just because Ina never does member streams doesn't mean the other girls don't.
>>50581050*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*>https://playboard.co/en/>http://ikioi-ranking.com/>https://vrabi.net/>https://www.vstats.jp>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-rankingHololive sites>https://holo.poi.cat/>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html>https://trackholo.live/en/>https://www.hololive-songs.com/ Nijisanji sites>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly>https://twitter.com/2434rankings>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber>https://www.nijiuta.com/ Twitch>https://sullygnome.com/>https://twitchtracker.com/>https://stats.roki.sh/Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp
>>50581050this one.
this one
Aki thread
>>50581050props to op for using aki pic
A reminder that using "livers" to refer to vtubers is absolutely retarded.
Clearly this one
This one
I was enjoying cunny but time for Aki
HOLOLIVE BOARDHOLOLIVE THREAD
>AKI SEGS/#/ is inclining
*YESTERDAY’S EN TWITCH/YOUTUBE TALLY OF THE DAY (5/31)*>11,284: Vei (Indie)>10,681: Nyanners (Indie)>9,041: Filian (Indie)>8,691: Vedal987 (Indie)>6,118: Kronii (Hololive)PER COMPANY>0x Hololive>0x Nijisanji >0x Vshojo>2x IndieEN TWITCH/YOUTUBE TALLY W/ TWITCH DEBUFF [Twitch avg vs YT peak] (5/31)*>7,622: Nyanners (Indie)>7,601: Vei (Indie)>7,466: Vedal987 (Indie)>6,118: Kronii (Hololive)>5,175: Filian (Indie)PER COMPANY>0x Hololive>0x Nijisanji >0x Vshojo>2x IndieNotes: >Cut-off time for final tally is midnight PST>Company counter resets in next tally
>>50581155Kys
UNICORN BROS?!?!>YOUR RESPONSE!?
>>50581116Remember to shoot on sight anyone who uses "liver" and "wave".
>>50579907Thread will naturally talk about whatever hot topic is happening.ESPECIALLY if there isn't any other important thing taking up the airwaves.Homo twitter thing is the hottest topic rn, Twitch indies can suck themselves off all they want, but they have limited discussion potential.All the seethe from boths sides of this twitter thing though?That can sustain the thread for HOURS.
sorry, my new oshi
imagine complaining that someone did "only" 18 streams
>>50580680Wait, what, why is Mumei so much shorter here.
>>50581155kys
>>50581189isn't she?
>>50581155Well done, good luck doing it for the next 500 days straight
>>50581174She's smart and doesn't want to scare them.
>>50581155>Dumb anon is still posting his irrelevant tallyAbsolute Retard
>>50581174The girls should take care of themselves when it comes to safety etc
>>50581189Moom 156 cm (5'1")Fauna164 cm (5'5")
>>50581155>comparing twitch and youtube numbershow come you dont include fb live numbers? maybe because most thai and indo vtubers there get minimum 20k viewers?
>>50581183WATAME ONLY DID 19 STREAMS. IT'S OVER
We should have horse races to 2 views.
>>50581155At least some actual effort is being put into this shitpost for once.
t chan is removing shit now
>>50581155holobronies? our response?
>>50581174It's okay Chocotentei, I'll invite Choco mama as well when she inadvertently barges in while we're having sticky steamy sex
>>50581246Anon they were shitposting in the thread all day yesterday.
>>50581155Should have Nyanners, Vei, and Filian tagged as Mythic, not indies.
>>50581155
>>50581255I unironically think Yagoo was right in introducing Tempus. Look how hard they mog their /jp/ counterparts.
>>50581280>not having sex with Choco mama insteadWHY ARE YOU GAY?
>>50580778You don't need kanji to watch streams anon.My listening reps are amazing, I can even understand some weird-ass slang terms from listening to Marine streams once in a while.But God save me if you asked me to write down any of that shit or read long-ass JP comments without a translator.
>>50580844he's a flip btw
GRIM
>>50581268>Reddit againYou should go back and also kys.
>>50581268Why is that Helmite faggot licking t-chans asshole
Patiently waiting for tally anon to post his tally so I may begin my daily hololive wanking and jerk off sessions.
So why is Cover so adamant to burning HoloEN, their most successful sidebranch, just for the Stars? The recline over the past year from Ina or Gura taking a break should've hurt them a lot but they still think Tempus is doing good.
>>50581268>it's not too much of an Obama thanks memeI just can't fathom that there are actually people who communicate in this manner.
>>50581291>Look how hard they mog their /jp/ counterp-JAZZ MUSIC STOPS!>imagine getting mogged by FUCKING ARURAN!
>>50581305>flipworse actually if you opsec the email he used for the account and link it to other social media sitesa malysianfag hapa
Why's Luna getting decent numbers with absolute shit games.
>>50581305Wonder if that's one of depressed (sadly not suicidal) nousagi sockpuppets. Would fit with the corpo bootlicking.
So what did we learnt from the last thread anons?
>>50581155kyskeep yourself save
>>50581155You're gonna get told to kys for at least the first 30 days if you decide to keep this up, so good luck.Also hope you don't miss any streams... that would be bad...
WHY ARE YOU LAUGHING KOONE?! THIS IS PEAK ALPHA
this Aki stage is pretty similar to the one Okayu used from a 3rd party studio, but the assets and recording were rendered in hololive studio
>>50581386>malysianfagCan't never hear about malays and not remember that the guy who originally drew Christ-chan was a malay autist too.
>>50581373At least try to post accurate numbers.
>>50581373
>>50581373Usually I prefer homos go entirely unmentioned, but losing to fuckboy Aruran is embarrassing.
>>50581183I’ll never not be impressed by Gura’s watch hours. 2 streams about 8 hours but 114k watch hours
>>50581155>>50581434> EN TWITCH/YOUTUBE TALLYnever fucking mind, I thought it was just the twitch tallykys
Honestly at this point, I should just post daily vrabi StarsEN - HoloEN tallies to a single HololiveEN twitter post or retweet of that day just to send a message
>Sitting with TV on nearby>Hear the talking box mention Steve Rosenthal Man, Aki is getting popular!
>>50581358They somehow see more potential in ID then EN. ID is about to get their 4th gen, while EN3 is in limbo.
>>50581434already missed a couple includding sodapoppin cutekittykitty and girlisaacs streams
>>50581473AIEE what is this
Tchan is removing commnents on reddit calling xer out again
>>50581268I wonder what rule this broke
>>50581268that removed comment had over a hundred upvotes calling her out for posting info on discord only
>>50581520>>50581321
>>50581434best believe I'm gonna keep at it for more than that since this is one of the most retarded tallies
>>50581483That tally is already on /lig/. This guy is just one of the more subtle raidfags.
>>50581155You should thx me and my 10 browser tabs for those indies ccv.
>>50581155Really should kys especially for calling these girls indies. If they’re indie then everyone else is an indie as well
>>50581389Anon you missed the point where Luna Unironically moggs all of HoloEn in average ccv besides Gura???>>50581183All she needed to do was shed the baby meme shit and lean more into GFE. Bully panda mogged, matsuri surpassed
>>50581389European audience
>>50581155Thy is Henya isn't counted as En? Her streams are in english with occasional translation. Even for Vshojo she isn't counted as JP and more like a hybrid.
>>50581535be nice ;)RJMAD
>>50581507Maybe because Tempus is EN3 I dunno, it seems to look that way now that the real EN3 has been delayed for almost 2 years.At this point, the theme for EN 3 would be LEGEND5
>>50581155As said before this is retarded but try to keep it up this will backfire horribly another way for watamage to fill her superchat meter.
>>50581560not even that accurate which is sad since hes only following corpo vtubers
>>50581520Some of these aren't even that bad
>>50581586>Japanese>Vshojo JP>ENAlso kys.
>>50581602but he said "it was always nice"
>>50581178wait what happened with homo twitter?
>>50581553keep trying diegomarcus, fuerza!
https://twitter.com/dizzydokuro/status/1663921296554577935phasefags, explain yourselves
>>50581470That's not the same stream. Valo vs. Pinneaple
>>50581155BASED BASED BASED BASEDMake ensharts squirm, en tally was always a joke there's no reason not to add everyone who mainly speaks english.>>50581434just like the original en tally anon.
For the first time in a long time I finally decide to come back to the numbers thread and what the hell do I find? Incomprehensible walls of text, 5 different tallys, and Nijinigger falseflag infestation. Um... Who's responsible for this abysmal recline in thread quality?? Why must you ruin the one place where a numbers enjoyer connoisseur (such as myself) feels at peace. Why???
>>50581155>Vedal987Why not use the name "Neuro"?
>>50581619Of course he's a shitposter rather than anyone with an actual interest in numbers.
Koone aiming to be Capcom's ambassador as well
>>50581650The holopro and hololiveEN account got merged
>>50581507They're high off of Kobo just like they were high off of Myth previously. When they fail to clone Kobo in ID4 they'll ignore them too, just like when Council couldn't replicate Myth.
>>50581637kekd
>>50581535Hurting feelings of moderator
>>50581586If you go down the rabbit hole, you would also have to start including the Korean Twitch vtubers.
>>50581658>Numbers thread>Posts offtopic twitter and reddit screencaps.You might just be a faggot, anon.
>>50581174>The girls people want to find a husbands act like femcels >The ones that people want to stay pure act like whoresWhy is vtubing like this?
>>50581473>>50581518Ohhhhh, it was because of the rai->JAZZ MUSIC STOPS!The EN lad got raided as well and STILL got mogged kek.That's how GRIM things are
YESTERDAY’S MY VTUBER FAP TALLY OF THE DAY (5/31) (# of strokes)>2,876: Chloe (Hololive) *Climax*>2,065: Iroha (Hololive)>1,081: Mel (Hololive)>870: Koyori (Hololive)
How can >we save META bros
>>50581710This. The gooks absolutely mog their "totally not vshojo" whores.
Did that funny tally hit your nerves?
>>50581520How does she still have her job? Does JP not know?
>>50581631nah they already implied that the vshojo jp thing is as good as dead
>>50581681Is that just a generic hub or a lobby created by Korone for viewers?
>>50581720he's actually using the rule 64 fanart? that's kind of weird
>>50581298I don’t know how to explain this but I can only handle Kanata and Okayu. I can understand Miko and Pekora but it’s closer to understanding how people speak more than understanding Japanese.
>>50581728good numbers with not even 1mill subs
>>50581183Go Sora!27 streams in May8th in #streams/Stream time
>>50581744> JP> giving a shit about redditWatame just likes to use it like EN twitter from time to time, and even she has started to give up since all the JP lovers have left the subreddit for a while.
>>50581669It is the burden that we must bear for being THE MOST INFLUENTIAL THREAD An elephant dosent care about barking dogs
>>50581757the > fucker is trying everything to incline, and failing miserably
>>50581744All the complaints goes to the trash so en management is a shithole protecting each other asses
>>50581725i thought towa was the one who masturbated the most, wtf
>>50581725I'll object to this tally for two reasons1) The fewer number of strokes it takes for me, the higher it should be in the tally2) If I go with Chloe after Mel (for instance), I'm spent and it takes more strokes and I'm not seventeen anymore, I might not make it to conclusion
>>50581740im just disappointed that the shitpost didnt even try to be remotely accurate and add the literal who vtubers from other sites that would have gotter an ire fromemore people considering some flip “vtuber” in fb live fot 40k auctioning sneakers
>>50581744They don't understand how west works and believe T-chan that people outside of discord are a small minority
Alright, gonna sleep Anons. Gonna dream up being an EN 3 member who gets 20k ccv for every stream and when asked, "why don't you Collab with Stars?", I'll say no and say I don't like them because I want to watch them seethe. Afterwards, I'll go have lesbian sex with fauna
>>50581660gotta support the cause
>>50581669>5 different talliesTrue number enjoyers would love it. They have more numbers to analyze.
>>50581757He's not the first one to do so.
>>50581744send them a report, in japanese form
>>50581507Everything that’s happened and you still refuse to believe they were made as en3
>>50581744any EN complaints probably go through these fucks
>>50581720isn't this a misleading thumbnail?
>>50581183Does anyone has number of streams per Holomem for each month for past 1-2 years? Hours streamed would be nice too.
>>50581807Everyone is fine with the faggot making a twitch tally, but he doesn't want to do that cause he wants to use it as shitposting material.
>>50581720As a fan of a lot of Tempus content, I have no fucking problem with Flayon getting shitty numbers playing Mystic Messenger. He still had way better rention playing that shitty game than Pizza Papa had playing Minecraft.
>>50581769thing is, shes not just reddit that tchan does is it? shes also directly in charge of the en twitter account itself, as per what her discord leaks state
>>50581799>some flip “vtuber” in fb live fot 40k auctioning sneakerskek.
>>50581805>men dreaming of being womeni didn't know pride also reaches the depths of /#/
>>50581806retard that's the autist outfit kek
>>50581744Have you ever dealt with a multinational company anon? This is an honest question. Most of the Jp management doesn’t even speak conversational English, the nuances of the EN speaking fanbase and culture are a complete mystery to them. Foreign branches have a lot of leeway out of necessity, some asshole probably rode the success of Myth until it became obvious they had nothing to do with their success. Monitoring and managing branches in a different country, in a different time zone, with a different language and culture is actually really, really hard
>>50581758If it's any consolation, it takes some time to stick.I've been watching Raw JP streams from time to time since early 2020, and it was only around early-mid-2022 that I started to understand enough to fully enjoy the streams.Keep at it, and good luck. It was honestly VERY worth it for me, JPs are honestly just way better at this, even the ones with lower numbers.
>>50581751I wasn't quite following the whole stream, it seemed like just a normal hub
>>50581728I hope Facebook keeps throwing more of their money into that pit.
>>50581769>even she has started to give upYou sure about that?https://www.reddit.com/user/Tsunomakiwatame
>>50581869Anon, dreaming to be a Holo is fine as all dreams are. You become a girl in your dream and went to Hololive just to be with your oshi. Just as all dreams are, I wanted to be a pilot but I found out I'm colourblind now im stuck becoming an engineer.
>>50581816Optimally make a stink on Japanese boards with translated screenshots proving that she's listening to nijifags but that's hard to do correctly if you aren't a regular there
>>50581876But I though the majority of EN management is staying in Japan?
moombutt
If a talent doesn’t even have 300k subs they’re basically not a real vtuber in my eyes. I suggest we ban all discussion of Holostars until the entire branch has the minimal sub count to be considered a novice big corpo vtuber (300k). Until then they should be relegated to /lig/.
>>50581744It’s because it’s sanctioned by Yagoo. Sweeping changes like this don’t get signed off on without him seeing it and he’s homobeggar prime probably doesn’t watch them himself but he’s always posting about them. It’s just as bad with JP but retards don’t actually pay attention to JP they just shitpost
>>50581520>>50581744t.banned Redditors
>>50581928top managementiirc middle management isnt
>>50581928Based on linkedin, the majority of EN management are SEAs.
>>50581844Isn't the MC of Mystic Messenger female? I have no clue but I figured it was just otome-level shit since that's what Flayon usually plays.
That diego dude is crying about the negative reception in vyt
>>50581969>SEA likes malesYeah, you know what, I buy this rrat
>>50581935When Flayon drops below 500, StarsEN could qualify for /lig/. A matter of time at this point
>>50581935
>>50581969Why does SEAs want to ruin EN but not let homoID be a thing?
>>50581844Perfect for celebrating pride month!(thank God I live in a place where almost no companies are celebrating this cancer)
>>50582020I actually like her videos, she's pretty good but does way too much roblox
>>50581969Alright, new rrat pulled from my ass, EN management is purposefully tried to tank EN because they want ID to be the top sidebranch.
>>50581744I'm waiting on my coffee to actually wake me up, but my brain is reminding me about a japanese JRPG company, I think NIS/NISA? Anyway, NISA you probably know as the ones who've been translating/localizing stuff and butchering it in the process. I wanna say it was YS 8, but they fucked it up so bad that the fans went over their heads and sent complaints directly to the main JP hq, and shortly after they were forced to fix the damage they did. JP had absolutely no idea it was THAT bad because NISA, as their english branch, controlled all flow of information back home. NISA's response at the end of this was 'okay guys fine but never ever do that again, please, I beg you'.Anyway, unless you can figure out how to forward this shit directly to yagoo or something it's never getting better, t-chan and his assorted fags covering his ass in EN management also handle complaints and feedback for the western market, they will NEVER let anything that could touch them make its way back home. I think the only reason leddit moderation slowed down so much after the lockdown is because it caused too much noise to be swept under the rug.
If we cant compare Youtube and Twitch number then how do we know who is the 2nd biggest agency in EN?? Nijien? Vshojo? some Indie
>>50581969As long as cover keeps the requirement that you need to be able to commune to their office this will always be the case.
>>50582003Why are you in the numbers thread, anon?
>>50582003Does that dude even work? I see his name on every site that pertains to the holos
When StarsID is the new hot thing, maybe management will stop pushing Tempus so much and we can all ignore them in blissful peace. They’ll be last season’s toys and the ID fans can have a turn grappling with the forced merge attempts and give us a break
>>50582020how many kids are going to pop their first boner to her?
>>50581243I... thought she was tall. That's like Subaru's and Korone's height.
>>50582094>Custom tagsHello, Redditor.
>>50581650>>50581690No that one got discontinued because of the obvious fact that it’s not growing. This one was for translating JP and was huge I think at 700k followers so they think this will be better for talking about homos. Very first thing they do after taking it over is retweet the homos
>>50582112still too tall for an anime girl
>>50582094kek, he's not even saying which server
>>50582051Sounds like a situation where someone was touting "popular demand" to get what they want
>>50582121Fuck off Diego
>>50581673I might change it to Neuro in the next one. I was conflicted on whether to use channel names or colloquial names.
>>50582112Most holos are really short, which makes the taller ones seem huge by comparison.
>>50582112korone is 154cm right?
>>50582145>N-no you can't call me out!Stay over on Reddit, retard.
>>50582168Wish I had the image of Fauna towering over Peko during HoloFes
>>50582130I wonder if screenshot of their tweets with takeover point marked would make for good thread in few days or if it's good enough already
>>50582147>missing a whole lot more EN vtubers>Mythic = Indiekys
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *Here it goes>76,042: Aki (Hololive)>58,439: Aqua (Hololive)>46,169: Fubuki (Hololive)>38,386: Kanata (Hololive)>32,353: Lize (Nijisanji)>28,237: Okayu (Hololive)>23,139: Pekora (Hololive)>22,913: VSPO (VSPO)>18,348: Lauren (Nijisanji)>16,243: Kanae (Nijisanji)>15,766: Fubuki (Hololive)>15,353: AZKi (Hololive)>13,819: Nui (Nijisanji)>12,608: Tamaki (NoriPro)>12,299: Iroha (Hololive)>12,025: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>11,421: Chiroru (Indie)>11,412: Choco (Hololive)>11,136: Koyori (Hololive)>10,948: Lamy (Hololive)>10,760: Akina (Nijisanji)>10,480: Fuwa (Nijisanji)Another Aki gold for a podium straight out of 2019 with Aqua and Fubuki for Silver and Bronze
I think something really big is gonna happen soon. The GFE JP holos have really really ramped up recently. Something tells me that they are trying to make sure we don't leave after a big thing happens.
list of the graduated/hiatus chuubas post-2023>Nunki https://twitter.com/nunki_dayo Graduated Febuary 26th>Lilita LaPlume https://twitter.com/lilitapuff Graduated Febuary 29th>ProjectHarune https://twitter.com/ProjectHarune Graduated March 20th>TsunariVtuber https://twitter.com/TsunariVtuber Graduated April 2nd>Elaine https://twitter.com/Elaine_KoMETA Graduated May 8th>Wabyuu https://twitter.com/waabyuu Graduated May 20th>Iekushi Chapipi https://twitter.com/IekushiChapipi Hiatus May 25th>Blair Labri https://twitter.com/BlairLabri_NS Graduated May 26th>Natsumi Moe https://twitter.com/vtuber_moe Retired May 30thupcoming graduation/hiatus chuubas>Ayane Hylo https://twitter.com/ayanehylo Graduating July 16th>Miori Celesta https://twitter.com/mioricelesta Hiatus in June/July
>>50582179No, she's 156 meters tall.
>>50582121What's "custom tags"? I may need to familiarize those Reddit things since I want to become a casual redditor in the future.
>>50582232Any proof of this?
>>50582220
>>50582270DAMN, this is good!
>>50582270Abayo nigga
>>50581155>twitch debuff (avg vs yt peak)a hearty kek from me anon good shitpost. i look forward to the daily kys posts if you actually keep it up
>>50582299I-its safe I think
>>50582232good, they should do it more
>>50582299Nipples are all good according to /a/
>>50582048IIRC they were mostly non-ID SEA...since obv ID staff are hired for their own branchLast I remember, the new EN director, Jap something or other, is either SEA or mongolian
>>50582259Proof they're ramping it up? Just member a few of them.Proof that something big is happening? I don't have any direct proof but I am reading the tea leaves. Can you say that you trust Cover not to fuck everything up?
>>50582322I get hit just from areolas
>>50581917She had a time period where she wouldn't post much, it's only after Helmite directly asked her to use reddit more that she started posting again.
>>50582375>Can you say that you trust Cover not to fuck everything up?Hell no
>>50582048at least you said it was from your ass because that kind of shit cant come from somebodies head.
>>50582369Jap's a Malaysian if my Google skills can be trusted.
>>50581155xqc hit 50k yesterday why isn't he on the tally?
>>50582375>holosummer will include holostarshow would you react?
>>50582433>holostarsGo back
>>50581854Just go to /lig/. They already have a devoted numberfag who tracks that and puts in the OP
>>50582255>Shitposting when even a retard could see that Homobeggar/Anti EN3 clearly isn't something the website does itself.
>>50582051your seeing it right now the 2 threads about the announcement on the official subreddit are getting scrubbed clean by the moderators right nowit's full of removed and deleted comments now
>>50582433I wouldn't mind them getting their own streams, in fact I kinda want to see Miyabi in tight one
>>50582433>holostarsgo back negra
>>50582449ok muh homos in holosummer, how you react will?
>>50582433Not watch a second of it and start funneling my money into roommates.
>>50582481Is there a new site to check now? I used unddit last time but apparently some api change fucked everything up.
>>50582398I don't care about that, anon. It's just obvious she's still using it frequently and has been for a year.
>>50581893It’s good now and it’ll probably be better if I get it down but I don’t fully agree. They’re definitely better than most of en but certainly not all. Being able to understand better has made me appreciate gura more. She has her faults but purely as a streamer she’s as good as JP. I might change my mind later since like I said it’s just basic understanding but as of now I can see why she attracted the japs
>>50582488>how you react will?You might've set your translation app as "Yoda" ESL-kun
>>50581780an elephant fears a mouse though
>>50582181I love them
>>50582488>>>/vt/mans>>>/vt/stars>>>/vt/nijien>>>/vt/vshojo>>>/vt/pcgGo back
>>50581155Just do a twitch tally
>>50582549not if it's in hospice care
>>50581932Are they not aware that mumei streams in her underwear?
>>50581535If enough people report something Reddit itself automatically removes a comment or post.
>>50582255google RES
>>50582480I know those specific tags are fake. I merely thought the concept of custom tags aside from "moderator" or "OP" exists in reddit.
>>50582048this but holostars instead of ID
>>50582651>>50582579>>50582484>>50582449
There's no feeling in the world as raw and intoxicating as having a Discord clique. It's worth throwing everything in your life away to have 10-20 random Discord people chat with you and care about what you say. It's better than sex or drugs.
>>50582506reveddit still works
did that plusmate leak any new websites lately or did he get stamped out
>>50582048Why go that far when they are already are known for shilling holostars to the point that they force everyone else to stop streaming?
>>50582506reveddit can restore mod-removed comments from user pages, but it's kinda flaky for me
>>50582072Because only 2 companies have taken over amusement parks, and only one has broken barriers for their lesser competitors. All without outside forces
>>50582322I got hit once for a similar one long back.
>>50582506reveddit but it's unreliable
>>50582506reveddit, but it cant recover all of them
How long is this thread going to talk about reddit and the fucking homos?
>>50582099They added id to the en discord so they can welcome the homos. All while not telling the jp side about their existence. If they make homo id they’ll add them to en Twitter as well
>>50582769until en3
EN3 were the friends we made along the way
>>50581969Post the proofs or GTFO
>>50582769Any time you try to call out Fauna for being a reclining whore they deflect to homos so never
>>50582523Gura, yeah I agree. Probably 2-3 more of the top ENs too.Problem is always that they aren't streaming though, isn't it?It's the reason people ask for EN3 after all.
>>50582769Until you bring something else to talk about
>>505822207-12 win for nijisanji, hololive is dead
>>50582769Until we get good news
>>50582605Shirt, bra and panties is her usual getup. But she does keep emergency pants around.
>>50582769until we get something else to talk aboutgot anything?
lewds doko faggots
>>50582211Few days later would work but you’d have to explain it because so many people are unaware that this twitter was never about holo en. Even the supposed jp fans that litter here didn’t know about it
the worst of the holo fancords is that during pride month they put rainbow and trans flag on the server pfp but they don't put blacked on the server pfp during black history monthok, time to go back to watch doog
>>50582072While I do agree Twitch has inflated numbers compared to YouTube, I don’t think the inflation is actually as large as many anons here make it out to be, and the biggest EN Twitch vtubers are probably close to par with HoloEN nowadays (sans Gura). Or certainly at least much closer to peer status than NijiEN is.
>>50582433Would be unhinged
>>50582549and the mouse fears its own miniature
I just want EN3 to debut
>>50582813No, I just reply to Faunaschizo with cunny
>>50582896>Or certainly at least much closer to peer status than NijiEN is.That's a no brainer, what that branch sinking below 4k
>>50582896.......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU2m_Dh5mS4>123k in 3 hourswhaaaat?
>>50582813
>>50582919Is that a MAtranny?
I still don't understand why we can't have seperate twitter accounts for Holo & HomoEn and then just have one account for "HoloproEN" news. Are they really that desperate for engagement?
>>50582961FOTM
>>50582971The transformation will be painful, but so worth it
>>50582942nice fake site, it doesnt exists
>>50582961This one I'll actually listen to. Fubuki love.
>>50582961fubuki is the foxburgerking, so obviously
>>50583004Because, anon, only one of those accounts would get views and followers. Only one of those products actually has an audience. Stars is only viable if they're the misshapen, shameful, deformed conjoined twin of the thing people actually want.
>>50583004It does exist, just not for ENhttps://twitter.com/holostarstv
>>50583023 (me)It was amazing. Thank you for the good cover, Fubuki.
>>50582961I wonder if it also got a typhoon buff
>>50583004Because they missed the timing and were not confident enough at the start.Holostars en should have appeared since day 1 of tempus. But also im sure they have only 1 intern that doesnt watch the girls to begin with handling the en twitter account
>>50582886So something like>homo shilling>--------->JP news ?
>>50582896twitch numbers arent inflated, its fucking youtube that crashes its own numbers you are literally playing with half a puzzle with youtube numbers. only time twitch numbers are gamed is if you are embedding on a massive website (fextralife) or you happen to be one of the front page featured streamers of the day.
>>50582044Seething nigger worlder has gays finna rent free in the headawww shieet
>>50583065@hololivetv still posts both holos and stars. So even on the JP side they get preferential trestment.
>>50583004they know if they made a starsEN account it will be a barren wasteland, especially when some members is almost a 2 views POPULAR DEMAND, just keep leeching the girls when theres really no point if the dudes can`t stand on their own
>>50583176>starsEN
>>50582851In which stream did she mention this?
>>50583018it clearly existed at one point retard and they took it down exactly because it kept receipts of the bullshit youtube pulls off
>>50582232Honestly they are either extremely horny or it’s finally clicked how this is better job than anywhere else. It’s definitely ramped up in the last 2 months but literally every problem en has jp has as well. Only difference is JP holos outnumber them and get all the jobs so it’s not as noticeable. There’s nothing they could do save adding homos to Hololive summer that would make fans unnaturally angry
>>50582961>133k nowis this going to be 1 mil in 2 days kind of cover??
>>50582896>adblock>tab outs>embedsthese three make it impossible to ever compare twitch to youtube not even counting the other problems like mute. it's cope to think hololive viewers aren't using adblock, don't use two monitors, don't watch multiple streams at once, don't tab out to other pages, and don't watch on holodextwitch inflation has nothing on how much youtube cripples ccv
>>50582220How are (You) going to reward your wine aunt?
>>50583160>twitch arent inflatedI could have a stream muted and in another tab and i will still count as a view.That is why is inflated while youtube has a lot of filters is a better metric for active audience watching a stream
>>50583197Not everyone enjoys using 2nd-grade kindergarten insults like "Tempiss" and "Homos", even if they dislike the Stars.
>>50583163Anon, there are less niggesr in my country than in your mom's bed right now
>>50583018the state of this thread
>>50583251>>50582579
>>50583018newfagchama...Vnuma was the precursor to vrabi (or rather the latter spawned when the former died)
>>50583233>youtube actively sabotaging numbers if you ever so happen to ever use it as background noise is BETTERkill yourself
>>50583261>>50583254
>>50583018>ESL>RetardOf course.
Here's what Mumei's next outfit is gonna look like. Just make it brown or purple instead.
FST will save this thread
>>50583274Is one of the reason sponsors and advertiser prefer youtube. We hate it but it is better for the site to get sponsors happy with this kind if transparency.
>>50581744English branches in JP companies of anything are extremely incompetent and JP side mostly not giving fuck , why do you think Hololive would an exception
>>50581155I think we have different definitions of "Indie"
>>50582369>since obv ID staff are hired for their own branchWrong, HoloID currently only has 10 staff members, and 4 of them were newly recruited 2 months ago. These are some of ID staff at Cover HQ who are not part of HoloID staff.
Is twitter TL function broken for anyone else?
>>50583274I don't think it's objectively worse. If you care about your viewer engagement, you might not care as much about people who aren't paying any attention
>>50583274nta but did you miss the part "active audience"I can have twitch inadvertently running in a tab and I would still be counted
>>50583361broken for me too
>>50582862>Hag lewdsI only participate when it's cunny or hebe girls.
>>50582769Hi, diegochama.
>>50583361Been broken for me since last night.
>>50583018There needs to be a web archive version of lmgtfyhttps://web.archive.org/web/*/hiyoko.sonoj.net
>>50581358YAGOO's biggest regret is seperating the male and female branches. If EN can prove that a co-ed gen can be successful then he can do the same to JP.
>>50583203Can't remember exactly when, but the emergency pants thing was in a discussion with Ame, I think, underwear was in a solo stream. Said something about not wearkng much because of the heat, which cpupled with ban pants leads to underwear.Her wearing a shirt on top is just me guessing, I doubt she only sits in a bra and panties.
>>50583356>Have to deal with Indonesians everydayHonestly, I would be tired too if I was an EN member.
>>50583356I hope they get bullied on a regular basis
>>50582862eh not in the mood right now and I'm watching Mr Paradise
>>50583390ogey
>>50583356>2 out a 3 on HQ is womenyeah good luck on StarsID its never happen
>>50583371Yeah most of twitch viewers dont watch streams or have a bunch open and jumping between them and getting counted on all of them.That is why polls have terrible engagemnet there.
>>50583361Yep it's broken.
Awful retention. Shameful display foobs. Graph forma de niji
>>50583440No wonder Kiara is so fucking racist
>>50583390Based pedonaito.
>>50582923Me too, I miss having an oshiI don't think EN3 will remedy that but at least then I can be properly disappointed and kill off the little hope in the back of my mind
>>50583233I would still prefer Twitch’s underfiltered counting over YouTube’s overfiltered counting. YT Polls being able to amass more votes than there are live viewers within only a matter of minutes is broken as hell. You can’t convince me that the viewer churn is actually that extreme.
>>50583422Girls like being fully nude anon, especially when they have attention on themThe only reason they would have underwear on is due to either cold or their juices staining the chair
>>50583408Good thing it doesn't work with EN either then
>>50583356jfc that's grim
>>50583474Well All her guests were either Homos or Nijis, so it's to be expected.
We need a Chun Li for EN3
>>50583422Emergency pants was with Gura in the room review streamhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKDcy2oqVsQ>This stream was well over a year ago
>>50582816Yea it’s very disappointing
>>50583233Explain Kpop live stream.
>>50583339>>50583368>>50583371When things like topic channels exist for music it's pretty stupid.
>>50583477No that's just cause she's European. We're all racist against asians (minus Japs because they embraced Enlightenment) by default.
>>50583482I would too.But you as and advertiser, contnet creator, sponsor SHOULD prefer the other oneIs just more data that allows you to work better with how your channel is growing or where your ads should be targeted. Twitch creators dont give a fuck about a viewer average view time they only care about watch hours as a metric for success.
>>50583503Anon, she has boobs. When you have those lumps of glorious fat you're gonna wear a bra half your time awake.
>>50583356But I thought every subgroup had 35-40 staff members.
there was more popular demand for horsepussy en than tempiss
>>50583527>>50583422>>50583203Glad to see someone else remembers that great stream
>>50583553That has nothing to do with streams and topic views still work towards the channels views.
>>50583474well, she didn't call anyone interesting
>>50583527Ah. Guess I have to watch this stream again. Woe is me.
>>50583622There probably were more demand for monthly Sana streams than all of tempiss combined
>>50583637Gura-Mumei is a kino combo. Their Ark stream is also a classic.
>there are anons in this thread that didn't heed to Mio's warningEXPLAIN YOURSELVES, ANONS!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ks2PZPQE2wM
>>50581744>>50581876Hmmm...I think I'm getting a picture how things are within Cover. I'll use "Omega" to represent the side of management wanting to destroy HoloEN, promote the Homos and nijify Hololive. I know he's probably fired, but this group of people still remains within Cover nonetheless.Now, obviously the way Tempus was handled was not well received in Holostars Japan branch, because they completely got shut out of the entire process of recruitment, branding etc. of what was supposed to be THEIR English branch.Shinove would have at least told Yagoo about this - even if that wasn't the main reason for him leaving.This + Gura's sudden roommate post after the gutting of her 3D Live would naturally have caused a lot of panic back in JP, which is around the time when A-chan revealed that she was taking English studies a lot more seriously.Gura may have sensed the opportunity, leading to her bypassing EN management entirely in order to get her loli dakimakura approved by JP.Now, Yagoo also said he's been learning English. Him starting to sit in on EN meetings (and saying that publically) + A-chan taking over HoloEN Youtube obviously made it so that Omega lost a lot of power they had over HoloEN.You will also note that Nodoka has completely disappeared from the front lines, which probably means that a lot of back-end stuff that used to be handled by A-chan has been given to her so that A-chan can handle both her regular front facing JP duties + handling the EN channel. At least for a while.I'm sure they're attempting to set up a management figure on the EN side as well, since A-chan won't be able to permanently handle the EN channel. Possibly one of the original 3 Myth managers.Once the EN channel was taken over, Omega didn't have much leverage for asking it back either, since in their infinite wisdom, they hadn't done much themselves to grow the channel.I think that this little twitter thing was a desperate attempt to scrounge up some form of clout and power in the HoloEN side that they have been losing for a LONG time.And this is such an easy sell to Yagoo as well -> Tanigo-san, we can use the big Hololive EN twitter account to promote Holostars as well!> All under one group, HoloPro, would make it easier for the audience to accept them!> Very few people click links from these accounts, so there is no harm done!Now, Yagoo obviously won't say no to homo shilling. He doesn't know about the translation team that has been handling the HoloEN account, the ones who have been doing great work with translating tweets and stuff from the main account.These guys have now been folded into Omega's wing, and they might get suffocated for a while. I hope if any of them are reading this, they take this to Yagoo directly, because I assure you he does not know the ground situation.Good thing is that, I think both recruitment, training and branding of Hololive EN has been taken away from the Omega group. So this twitter thing is just scraps they have to scrounge up.Of course none of this will be proven until EN3 lands... but I think that things may not be so dire in the EN sphere as many of /here/ think.
>>50583670INDOGODS WW@?!
>>50583371how is that bad though if you are actually listening and pay attention? I know when i have yt streams on its mostly in some buried tab while i work on other things knowing im literally 'not a viewer' is kind of shit despite listening to several hours of a stream.>>50583339ill concede this point its still shit though. >>50583233I will add onto the mute thing very few people actually do that unless its drop season for a game in which case yes thats a case of inflated numbers Id forgotten exists until i read your post.
>>50583677The baby dodos...
>>50583638Only for music channels. Where do you think Suisei and Marine get all their views from?
>>50583686Did some more athletes die or what?
>>50583339Yeah, youtube ads pay creators a lot more as well.
>>50583697>unless its drop season for a game in which case yes thats a case of inflated numbersThat's the case right now for VShojo (and former VShojo) and Smite
>>50582961that "aaa" is perfecti love foobs
>>50583692>>Good thing is that, I think both recruitment, training and branding of Hololive EN has been taken away from the Omega group.This is cope but i do hope you are right
>>50583440>He thinks the western staffs is better than the ID staffsRemember those Cover Corp guidelines they dropped a few days back? that was all cooked up by the EN staffs and got approved by Yagoo.
>>50583004>Give them a joint twitter goes so bad it kills EN’s actual twitter You can’t figure out even 1 reason why they would rather take over another new account this time with 700k followers, not meant for either en branch, instead of making their own
>>50583742Funnily enough, athletes kicking the bucket "mysteriously" precedes the pandemics, and is more likely due to "undetectable doping" that fucks their hearts (and give East German swimming chicks 4 inches long clits and armpit unshaveable hair)
>>50583697because youtube values more an actively engaged audience, simple as, it's a good metric to see who is fully invested in the stream with their full attention
>Complain about lewds>talk about homos and EN>3 hags are literally streaming
>>50583482passive viewers are barely better for advertisers than bots. youtube risk losing a shitton if it came out that 30% of their viewers are smart fridges. its better for them to over filter than to under filter, especially since they are still operating at a profit unlike twitch.
>>50583164Don’t feed them it’s how you catch the shitposters
>>50583596I don’t think sponsors and advertisers care about CCV period. Only subs and views.
>>50583361same, I've been having to use my regular translation addon
EN3 ETA?
>>50583638But is it any different?Also what's the point in not counting CCV, but counting for views? If something is good enough for one why not the other?
>>50583130Yea something like that would be perfect. Might have to add the actual holo twitter as well because they posted the en homos recently so it’s definitely been translated on that
>>50583164The main criticism for the "holoproen" account was retweeting literally who fanart for Tempus while missing some of the girls milestones to the point it became a running gag that they would always make an immediate subsequent post for "da boys" after posting anything fot eh girls to make sure it is always the most recent post in their timeline
>>50583816That shit was obviously written with JP in mind given it was dropped during JP primetime and only JP talents reacted to it.
>>50583834yes, i'm watching a prime hag beat up her fans
>>50583902July.
MAY VIEW/TIME RANKINGS See the picture for the numbers. Just look at the big table on top for the quickest results; or the one on the bottom for individual ranks.>If you want a quick summary, there is a lot of fluctuation inside the categories this month, but in general most categories remained stable or declining it seems.>I’m using the metric (vod) views/time because it seems to be the best metric we can use for comparisons.>There’s no way to calculate direct hours watched without having access to data analytics from inside each channel owner or bullshitting it; simply counting total views doesn’t take into account how much did they stream to get there (and they usually count small skits and music videos as well); and live viewers (on youtube) are very buggy and cut off a significant portion of that real number (for example, comparison between Miko’s twitch and youtube minecraft streams seem to indicate that 35% of her yt live viewers numbers are hidden [read the OP or the whole thread >>2253454 for anons discussion on the possible reasons for it) (not to mention that twitch max live viewers are constantly influenced by twitch raids coming from other channels). Or see this <span class="deadlink">>>17329929 for mori-mousey split pov numbers.</span>>Reading and trying to compare all those ratios for each hour length would have been a pain, so that’s why I’ve already made the ranking tables, with ranks for inside each time length.>The longer the stream time, the fewer vtubers that had any videos available to calculate.>Never compare general view/time ratios of streamers who have very different stream duration averages - that’s why I just don`t rank those anymore, since people are too dumb.>Only compare data (or ranks) from the same time length.>For combining those ranges from each time length, i inverted each position into a fraction (position/total), calculated the average of all available time-length fractions for each streamer, and then compared those resulting numbers: the smaller your fraction is, it means the higher yours positions were, so you rank higher.>You can see a practical example (from may) here: >>4423534.>Video types like short skits, short amvs/covers/original songs, watchalongs, members-only, sc-only, or deleted were not included for the calculations.>Videos analyzed for 'this month' are from the time period of 30-04-23 to 31-05-23 (~1pm jst).>You can see the biggest individual growth fluctuations with those vtubers who had some huge special stream (like 3ds, costumes, returns, tournaments).>They can be big rises if the special vids happened on this month; or big falls if the special vids occurred on last month.>On those cases you can see % change of one specific time length way superior than the rest for that vtuber.>Collecting all this data was a whole lot of work, so no promises that I’ll be doing this again, or as big of a list. And im getting tired of adding all the new debuting midgets. >I don’t think I missed anyone too big, I left out the smaller nijisanjis, or holostars or whoever else because I don’t have the time to include them all - but I did include a few smaller ones just out of curiosity.>Expect the list of checked vtubers to be cut by a good number on the next month.>And no "now im suddenly a vtuber" trendhoppers were included either. >If you think I left out someone relevant you can try convincing me to do their numbers as well, although if they are too small I’ll just tell you to fuck off. Or you can just calculate it yourself and post it here, not too hard. >I didnt proofread this, if something mentions september is because i forgot to update the text or pic. >i think on last thread someone asked if i would update those names. Definitely not for this month version, as it will likely mess with some formulas. Give me a full list of those names youd like changed and ill see what i can do for next time. Short lists will be ignored. >do not repost cutouts of this without the full source.>i will reply to myself with that top vtubers history pic
>>50583692>This + Gura's sudden roommate post after the gutting of her 3D Live That was two and a half weeks after the 3d live itself, rratmerchant, and right at the end of her September into October vanishing act that had everyone antsy. No one knows what the hell that was about but I definitely don't think it fits in with this.
>>50583697Drops literally do that. People are not watching just afkingn thereWhile it is shit it is needed. Like doing a sponsor stream and im just listening ti it but not watching youtube gives this infonto the creator. Is not a perfect system but is a system that gets more info and has advertisers happy.
>>50583816>Written in JP and translated to English>Dropped during JP hours>Only JP talents reacted to it, EN talents appear to not even know it happened
Kiara numbers
>>50583974me again, and here's the vtubers ranks history, updated. This one is not supposed to be perfect especially for the past years having worse sources, but it gives a good indication I guess. As usual the 0h and 1h were filled with events and special streams. The koreans of twitch remain deleting all their stream vods; while there are sometimes a few rare vods they upload on youtube that i can use. Veibae got suspended and her vods got deleted with it, i could only get one that was maybe too early. Added Mythic color tag.As things of interest:- subaru had her best position ever tied with another month- watame had her best position ever- azki had her best position ever- chloe had her best position in a year- mito had her best position in a year- luna had her best position ever- lui had her best position ever not counting her debut month- sora had her best position in a year- ichinose had her best position ever- furen had her best position in a year- sumire had her best position in a year
>>50583978anon i did say that drops do that.
>>50581859I'm pretty sure she's also the head translator.
>>50583760True, except all you do is shorts lol
>>50583482No body cares about your preference and that poll shit only happens with holos
>Kiara starts stream>Mogs all other EN vtubers online
>>50583845Yeah i also think twitch will never filter the ccv like that even tough it is easy because how bad it will look after.
>>50583313Oh yea if they copy myth next is formal
>>50583974>>50584027It's going to take me a while to read all this
>>50584027>>50583974Oh hey it's chart anon didn't read again, Miko wins nice
>>50583974>>50584027Return of the King
>>50583974>>50584027>Gura #3 on a tally based on VOD>2 public streams in the monthkek
>>50584027Go Luna!
>>50583665kek
>>50582322About that...
>>50584055Except if*
>>50584014Better than her jrpg streams i guess
>>50583692>omega lost controlgod i hope you are right, i need some copium right now, my worse nightmare is holo mutate into niji
Why must they do this to me...
>>50584027So Fauna is #2 in EN
>>50584079Why doesn't Vesper get more views he's better at the game than Fauna
This thread is full of self-admitted Sapling, Iryscrats and Moomans. Take any statements with a grain of salt.
hag love..lewdposter love..
>>50584373>he's better at the game than FaunaI sincerely doubt that.
>>50582426Probably chinese Malay like Bae, educated minority in a jungle nation.
For those who missed yesterday, here is the>30 DAYS MEDIAN OF PEAKS AND TRUE AVERAGE, KAIGAI ONLY, MAY 2023As usual, five (5) or more streams to qualify for these tables>which, among others, excludes Gura's 2 public streams in her channel and her 17,447 median and 14,099 averageSome comments1) Fauna finishes as #1 in the median table, repeating her feat of March 2023.Ina finishes as #1 for the average, being the one to hold that position in all of the 2023 months so far.2) Mumei is the other Holo to complete the top 3, being #3 in the median and #2 in the average3) Kronii and IRyS complete the top 5 in both tables, in alternating order4) The highest ranked NijiEN in both tables is Shu, in both cases under 5k5) The Kiara line held strong in both tables and Moona as well finished the month ahead of every NijiEN girl6) The highest median for the Holostars went for Vesper, 1799. The highest average for Bettel, 1844.7) Pippa finished the month with a 2.6k median, and Rin Penrose, 1.2k. Both also sport a four digits average8) Shinri, Hakka, Axel and Flayon, plus Scarle, Finana, Vermillion, Aia and Aster finished the month with a 3 views median9) The ranks of the kaigai tables grow steadily, with 149 tracked channels.It is one of the only things growing in it tho, because both the #1 median and the #1 average being the lowest no record, for the first time either below 8kand the punchline10) DaCapo, from the Thai vtuber group Algorhythm Project (ARP) is the highest ranked male vtuber of the tracked kaigai ones, surpassing all of Luxiem for the feat.His company mates are very well positioned too, with Baabel outranking Vox and Ike and Schneider outranking all non Luxiem males.
whats up number trannies?
>>50584360>more zeldaJUST
>>50584431Halfway through the week where she promised this week would be more than just Zelda and it's still just Zelda
>>50584431my favorite! an ina stream!
>>50584360Koyori is probably going to end her stream early, another day without a full Lamy overlap
>>50584360watch vods instead of bitching about dead hours for EN once all 3 are doing.
>>50584446She also said something exciting is gonna happen this week... Ina is a fucking liar
>>50584446Be happy that you got a Zelda thumbnail drawing stream
>>50584413>Actually does side missions and completes them Yes he is
>>50584424Fauna Sweep
>>50584424what about the sc?
>>50583677>Ark
Kiara/Kaela Diablo stream next week
>>50584539i prefer zelda streams
>>50584360>Another BOTW stream for InaIna... when are you going to reveal the exciting thing? The week is almost over.https://twitter.com/ninomaeinanis/status/1661883957632454656
ChuuyMine reached 2m subs and passed Korone.
>>50584428bitching about males, twitch, holoen and overlap. the usual
>>50584558What do you watch him or something? Are you a fag?
>>50584607BOTW is exciting!
>>50584597>next weekDO IT NOW RETARDS
>>50584597Seems like Mori might possibly join
>>50583975Besides her gutted 3D live >Daki>Another animation (Possibly 2)>2 covers one being Queen>Original >Reflect (jazz)3 of these things were completed 1 was to release late November to early December and the other 2 supposed to release in December. Daki was delayed because she got sick and they let her set it up on her return. The other 2 was supposed to be a cover and Reflect (Jazz) but she won’t even bring them up anymore. In one of her recent members she brought up a lot of things being canceled and in a different one she’s brought the animation and Original nearing completion. Of 6-7 projects only 1 has been released and even though they are nearing completion they can just decide to not let her release it. Just like the 3D and her first animation
kiara,kroni,mori,kaela diablo collabprediction?
>>50584558men being better than women at video games is just a normal thing anon. the thing is there is no shortage of men being really good at video games
>>50584607She is gonna announce that she is starting TotK on Monday!
>>50582769Welcome to EU and early EN hours, we always have a lot of homo discussions at this hours
>>50584679multipov? ill bet on kronii
>>50584642She is apparently going to do a short stream
>>50584424>all of NijiEN is below 5k
>>50584342He’s not right. Well let me rephrase it omega seems to be gone but it’s time we admit he wasn’t the problem
>>50584609No one cares spic
>>50584688He's not better. He spends the entire time getting backseated. There's also dead air out the fucking asshole and he can literally sit there thinking about his next move/what he plans to say for a literal minute at a time.
>>50584679Depends when it is but if Kiara insists on making it like 2PM it's not hitting 10k. Maybe like 7-8k.
>>50584360I'm gonna uuuu so hard at faufau
>>50584679>ME ME ME>autism>autism>autism
>>50581520I thought reddit was a hugbox bros?
>>50584679assuming no overlap except in the collab itselfKronii>Kaela>Mori>Kiara
>>50584558So I'm guessing he's cleared Hardcore Freelancer mode.
>thread filled with unironic vesperfags
>>50584360Official notice to Fauna's customers, usually referred to as Saplings, from now on the audience:The streamer with a virtual avatar Ceres Fauna (TM), from now on the streamer, will be performing during 3-5 hours at the indicated time. Please refrain from any kind of contact not previously consented by the streamer, the streamer does not care for or want any kind of attachment from the audicence that could be considered parasocial by other, most respectable members of the audience, or by the streamer with a virtual avatar Ouro Kronii (TM).Lastly, the streamer wants to remind you to buy her merch.Sincerely, Ceres Fauna (TM).
>>50584800They all ran to the vyt (niji) subreddit to cry about the Holo subreddit instead.
>>50584679>kaela>kiaraSo is going to be at a shit hour
>>50584819i think it's just vesplings
>>50583812December 2021 was the last time EN audition announcements were made, about it being open auditions from then on.Now, since it's an open audition, naturally anyone choosing to apply would know that it's "available" so to speak.But if none of the girls that applied were getting views on their applications, even after 3-4 attempts?They might think it's not happening.Since Tempus AND Tempus 2 debuted after the announcement, a lot of other EN3 potential girls would have gone to places like Idol corp, Phase etc.2023 Feb is when the most recent announcement "reminder" happened.They also rolled out an entire Video for it a week ago, which I assume they'll play as ads on Youtube etc. for future use as well.But let's take that February announcement as the start of them seriously looking for EN3.Now, obviously they stated that auditions are open for all branches. And tagged both HolostarsEN and HololiveEN on their post (missing HoloID, who was in the picture, which I assume the ID account took care of).Remember that this was on the HoloPro account, run by Omega. He naturally wouldn't be happy with having to say that only Hololive EN were recruiting, so it's possible that he might have put Holostars there as well. Or it could just be management defusing tensions, allowing both Holos and Homos to apply but only looking at Holo candidates, since the recruitment process has been completely taken over.Such "reminders" about existing auditions don't just come out of nowhere. In the corporate space, it usually means there's been some form of change. Which is why I think Omega group lost control of the EN audition process, and are left with just the HoloPro twitter account (which is now the main twitter account).There's some people that think that EN3 has already been recruited, and that the announcement was for EN4. But considering just how dogshit the EN branch has been handled to the point that the highest JP management folks had to step in, I don't have that level of optimism.This audition announcement is for EN3.They might fast track it though, similar to early Myth auditions which took around 5 months to materialize.If they shave off a month, EN3 is likely to come out some time this month.Oh, and look at that, a perfect space of 5 days this month... wonder what they could be used for... hmmm...
>>50584373he's only good at administration/simulation games also he only has played hitman for more than two month
Korone really nailed it with the character creation
>>50584843You are really proud of that shitpost huh?
>>50584661jesas, wouldn't surprise me if omegalul faggots have been tried to pull a "banishment room"-like thing on gura
>>50583845I think the main thing that hurts Twitch’s as revenue is the age of its audience. Roughly half of Twitch’s audience is younger than 25, which is the least value demographic for advertisers.
>>50584679Looks like Kiara has given up on waiting for the rest of them to organize collabs
>>50584884>no chammers anniversarytotal grim that not even grimchads are happy
>>50584679NiceMan why can't other ENs be straightforward as Kiara and ask for collabs.
>>50584679Connection issues out the ass
>>50584342He's not fully gone imo, or rather what "omega" represents isn't gone.There'll definitely be a little more tug of war for a bit more.EN3 this month though.
>>50584846kek they are even begging for a list of dozen names who are fed up with homos to be banned, at the holo sub, on the vyt sub
>>50584424And here is the first of the global tables. For starters, >30 DAYS MEDIAN OF PEAKS AND TRUE AVERAGE, GLOBAL, MAY 2023, TOP 50Some comments1) Miko clinched the month with a sky high 45k median over 18 streams, her return to the top after November 20222) Marine and Pekora complete the Top 3, with a 30k+ median.3) Toya, Suisei, Subaru and Kuzuha complete the 20k+ club and Shigure Ui, Korone and Mio complete the top 104) Hololive has 29 channels in the top 50 (4 EN), Nijisanji has 15 (0 EN), VSPO has 2 and Shigure UI, Chiroru, NeruMero and GatchmanV complete the top 50 as indies5) 29 channels finished ahead of a 10k median. Salome failed to make the cut tho, with Lize being the highest ranked Niji girl6) Chloe was the only HoloX not finishing the month with 10k+ median, finishing with a 9.7k one7) Nui had a very good month, finishing with a 11k median8) AZKi seems to be cementing her position on the top part of the table, finishing as #13 with a 13.9k median9) Lauren is performing well after his many strumbles and is third highest ranked boy in his company after Toya and Kuzuhaand the punchline10) Chiroru keeps a steady, stable and high performance and finished the month with a 13.k median over 24 streams
>>50583902In my dreams June, hopefully July, realistically October and worst case next year
>>50584916good, mori just organizes THESQUAD collabs
You can pretty clearly estimate how many memberships Enna has. >>50565152Along with this tweet: >https://twitter.com/EnnaAlouette/status/1651684091232677895It pretty much proves how much of a liar she is.
>>50584884I like your optimism but after a year of hoping that they are just around the corner i have completely lost faith.
>>50584893BLESS MR PARADISE AND HER HONKERS
>>50584974Go Miko Go!
>>50584916>proactive kiaraImagine.>>50585014>zhang>lyinghttps://youtu.be/0i4VBhm81UU?t=176What did you expect?
>>50581520Did that app release already? They're talking about both it and homos. Did a shitshow happen?
>>50584877>vesplingsVesper's overlap. For someone who streams within a few hours of him typically ending there's no real significant overlap.
>>50585004I feel like half the time they collab magni doesn't wanna be there but can't say no to mori
>>50585020
>>50584908I’m not saying she’s in the right for not streaming but every one of those except the Daki is paid out of pocket. Technically the daki has well but cover puts up some money. It’s gotta be disheartening to spend that money never see it released then you’re blamed by everyone as lazy and a liar
>>50581155have i ever mentioned to you to go kys? no? then go kys
>>50585054No, but they are hoping for it since apparently it is rumored that you can customize what talents you will get news about
>>50584758fauna isnt good at video games anon, from my short time watching the fags off debut they were all better than most of what hololive offers in gaming but again, there is no shortage of entertaining men who are good at video games to ever consider watching tempus.
>>50585078It already feels like that he checked out of that homo thing, so expect him to not renew his contract once that time comes again
>>50584609>Convert's clip channel
>>50585004Mori organized the Outlast Trials collab shitposter-kun. Even discounting mixed collabs, Mori still organizes more collabs than anyone in EN besides Kiara.
>>50584974Isn't Lauren the nipple guy with bot ads on his stream? His random rise to "popularity" with no other explanation than he sometimes streams with Kuzuha has always been suspicious. A lot of people sometimes stream with kuzuha and are still shitters or mid outside of said streams.
>>50585090eh, I watched Gura mostly to brighten my day, I just await her streamsbeen trying to watch some twitch whores (one of them comes really close) but it's not the same
>>50584688There’s actually nothing that women can reliably beat men at. Even things where they start with an advantage still tend to get overshadowed by men>>50584758Stop watching homos then
>>50585146My guy I've sat through a Vesper hitman stream just like I sat through Zeta's and just like I sat through Reine's. Vesper is not fucking good at the game, he takes forever to do anything and he is CONSTANTLY REPEATEDLY asking chat of his next move. Fuck off.
>>50585138It’s not a rumor, it’s the main point of the app. Beta testers were able to choose between Hololive / Holostars and pick and choose which feeds they wanted to see.
>>50581155>No henyaUseless even as a shitpost tally
>>50585197your whores i need names now.
>>50585226Henya is a JP.
>>505851502 weeks? like haachama?
>>50585014I don't think anyone should care about Enna that much, not even Enna. It's genuinely creepy. Find something more meaningful to do with your life.
>>50584884Didn’t read all that but June has to be a debut for a branch the next good one is October and I’m pretty sure JP has that spot
>>50585222Now i get the excitement, has it been confirmed that they can't fuck it up if you don't want the homos?
>>50585212The guy is obsessed with not looking stupid and bad at games than he is with actually entertaining people.
>>50585237nyo
>>50585171yeah, and sadly most of those collabs were a shitshow the first 30 minutes
>>50585014>enna>a liarwhew who knew
>>50584916Blame Myth. Council has been doing tons of collabs.
>>50585300They can always fuck it up by just marking news that contains Homos as also being relevant to Hololive in some way. You just have to trust Cover not to do that.
Anons... isn't it dangerous to shit on reddit?
>>50585300I guess they can still feed you homo news if you follow the equivalent of the main account unless they implement a tagging system so you can specifically block and stars news.
>>50585212Fuck off
>>50584914also doesn't help that they foster an anticap audience. their biggest streamers are constantly streaming pirated software and shows/anime. its shit spot for advertisers to buy an ad in a middle of a illegal kitchen nightmare marathon.
>>50585197Obviously not you I’m talking about people on Twitter, Reddit, youtube. They try to shit on her constantly
>>50585171>Organizes collab>Still got the lowest POVgrimbeats winning
>>50584609awesome
>>50584884is this why Astel is so op?
>>50585021Well, if you'd prefer the slightly more pessimistic angle, then I have one for that too.Nobody gave much of a shit about the February auditions, and Cover didn't get enough "quality" candidates.Sure, they would have gotten 10s of thousands of 2views and twitch thots hoping to "make it" but no one with any level of quality.Hence the release of the audition Video, in order to reach a wider audience, and hopefully get some diamond in the rough candidates.Possibly all 5, but more likely to just be looking for the last 2 or 3. There would have at least been 2-3 recruited from the February auditions after all.And if THAT's the case, then EN3 will take an additional 2 months since they will need to have group chemistry training as well. That would mean EN3 debuts will be in August or September. Both months have calendar spaces where it can be fitted in, and in any case debut spaces have never mattered to EN before since they usually debut the entire branch in a single dayBut if THAT changes though, and every EN debuts one day after another... then holy fuck that will be the biggest proof of recruiting team change.
>>50585406None of what I said was painting them in a good light and I'm not even the one that started this fucking conversation.
>>50585430
>>50585212I remember when i watched him at debut and he refused to play games "blind" does he still do that?
>>50585487Ask in /mans/ I was only curious about Hitman specifically.
>>50585014Most of her memeberships are gifteds that are payed with monopoly money, not defending her but still...
>>50585372READ ANON >>50585138
>>50582642I haven't used reddit in years but iirc it's an extension you can use to tag people who you suspect have ulterior motives. It was popularized by leftists who used it to shame anyone who posted on conservative subreddits but it's just as useful for marking anyone with an agenda.
>>50585510Yeah i don't care enough to do that
>>50585430>44% CCV incline>101% hours watched inclineIt's fucking over holofags
>>50585346very well ill enjoy my own whores.
>>50585020That chart is pretty useless...Except for health-checking the first army.
>>50584806I don’t even think Kaela’s POV would beat Kiara’s let alone Mori’s. Kronii is definitely gonna mog all of them though.
>>50585014I’m actually impressed because some schizo brought up the tax brackets in canada and this puts her right in that range. He’s off by 6% though people should really check out youtube’s help section. They take 24% if you don’t live in America and technically you can increase it back to 30% or even make it lower. All channels come from japan so they all start at 24%
>>50585517>Most of her memeberships are gifteds that are payed with monopoly moneyThat post proves you wrong.Most of her memberships are actually recurring-payment memberships, she only gets about 1000 gifted per month and is still over 5k members. Also most of her donations are in USD, the average value of her donations are 0.85 USD
>>50585430He's already got a Mythic contract lined up right? Or I guess El Mythico.
not even Minecraft buff can save Kiara?
>>50585524What I'm saying is that you can pick some talents to get news from and the Cover marks a news post that contains Homos as being about that talent as well and it goes into your feed.
>>50585079something interesting >Niji had more streaming time compared to April, but they still lost out to April in total views.
>>50585372Basically double tagging the posts, here's hoping that it works as an blacklist/whitelist that bypasses that
>>5058497435chads can't stop winning
>>50585643Kiara is the Aki/Mel of Holo EN.
>>50585655well, there's nothing you can do if you pick fubuki and you don't want to get stars on your feed
>>50585430>have shitload of suscruber on youtube>stream on twitchI will.never understand these niggas even if only 5% of his subscribers watched him that is better than that
>>50585437>then holy fuck that will be the biggest proof of recruiting team change.Actually a pretty good point and something to keep an eye on.Myth debuted over two days (JP recruitment team)Council all in one day (Omega)Tempus all in one day (Omega)Tempus2 all in one day (the last vestigial remnants of Omega's planning/influence hopefully)
not sure if i really should believe the "omega holoen manager faction" rrat
>>50585722>expecting shitty shorts subs to watch livestreams/long-form contentUnless you're EXTREMELY compelling/clickbaity, good luck on that.
>>50585643>en minecraft buffThat ship sailed when we get like 1 mc stream a week ir 2 if we are lucky.Now enjoy your zelda stream #345
>>50585722>spam shorts>get paid worse than mcdonalds workerthese shortfags are doing everything wrong
>>50585734from my perspective, Myth also all debuted in 1 day.
>>50585741You could replace "omega" with "retard" and hope that a subset of the managers aren't as retarded
>>50585754EVEN 5% IS BETTER THAN THIS.Even rin has 1k ccv from phasekeks
>>50585734First Tempus was actually split into 2 days
>>50584974>Chloe was the only HoloX not finishing the month with 10k+ median, finishing with a 9.7k oneWait, then that means...>Lui: 10245 median over 23 streamsINCLINING
Viewership is down for EN this week because they're watching SGDQ
>>50585594eh, they're probably the same
>>50585809Oh word? Never mind then. We'll have to look at other sheeps guts for our omens.
>>50585437That's my own pessimistic take as well, sorta. There were some good picks that moved onto smaller ponds, and yes I'm aware that you could probably look at them now and say 'nah, not a good fit/too retarded/whore' but you're shaped by your environment. I'm positive at few of them could have grown into the role as entertainers, grown as people. They left those diamonds in the rough to sit and get processed by others and set wrong for the sake of...whatever the fuck we've got going on now.
>>50585014no one watch niji on this board anon.
>>50584884>considering just how dogshit the EN branch has been handled to the point that the highest JP management folks had to step inIt's actually crazy it got to this point. JP management having to step in for a sub-branch management first happened for holoCN and didn't happen again since then, that alone should tell you just how bad the situation got, and we only get to see a glimpse of the shitshow from the outside and the few doomer mentions from the EN talents, who knows just how bad things were looking internally.
>>50585722is it your first time with shorts and clips uploaders?
>>50585643Compare her numbers in May/April to Buff minecraft now. I don’t know why you let fags gaslight you into thinking her numbers didn’t drop
>>50585864EN is constantly breaking new grounds, like Vesper and his suspension
>>50585851true, but this girl has been using her supposed "poverty" to milk donations out of her chat, while being the top female streamer in NijiEN. Considering that even low view trash like Finana isn't leaving the NijiEN boat is proves that something is amiss here. And it's true, if you do the calculation for her memberships you will come to the conclusion she is lying.
Watching Korone, the new SF looks pretty cool but I just know that I won't be able to get into a fighting game.
>>50585843That’s what people are forgetting kronii, mori, kiara, and Ame would all be worse than pomu if they were in nijisanji. Gfe corpo builds gfe girls. And Hololive at least keeps your head over water
>>50585722Until YouTube adds a channel points system, Twitch is just simply a better platform for streaming.
https://twitter.com/HizukiMiu/status/1664270401332187138
>>50585841if they debut each EN on a daily basis instead of all in 1 or 2 days then you know someone else in charge
>>50585879There's plenty of clip/short spammers that have high sub YT channels and also get decent ccv like Filian, Ren, or Ironmouse, but this guy's demographic is literally gradeschool children. They aren't watching twitch. Imagine the numbers Cookieswirl would get if she livestreamed her typical content there. Maybe decent for the first stream until people realized "oh this is for 8-year olds".
>>50585879at least clippers get more money
europoor here, since you fucks are keep talking about muh wawa, muh EU branch why would I watch Kiara when Korone, Luna or Noa is on
>>50585807excellent bait if there was actually phase or idol fags about.
>>50586052>bilibili
>>50586052JP7...
>>50586083for every decent one there are 100 terrible ones
>>50586041Now that is delusional. The only thing twitch has right now is chat delay.
>>50586052>never heard of this corp>checking its official website >seeing thislmao WTF is this.
>>50586052don't understand, but wasn't her the friend of the wactor ceo?
>Mythic CEO Asmonbald returns>Less CCV than Aqua being a retardJP bends the knee to no one
>>50585643it's not a buff if she can't keep it up and interact with the oters, what? she gonna do MC sparsely every now and then and not develop anything meaningful on it? she might as well be playing jrpg for all I care
>>50586189the chinese truly are shameless
Let's say I watch a full video without ad, and without clicking away, but that I later delete it from my watch history. Is the view counted?
>>50585817HAG SUPREMACY
>>50586236with ads*
>>50586236Nope. The view is deleted to expunge it from your history
>>50586209I prostate you fucking retarded Onyan
>>50585014You're a sad, obsessed retard but at least you actually put in the work.I don't care about most of the stuff /vt/ goes schizo over but I draw the line at pitybaiting for cash when you're already a top earner.
>>50586236you mean youtube acc history and not browser history right? its gone.
>>50586175Can't you delay chat on Youtube by increasing stream latency? Or have I misunderstood that option?
>>50586236Yes assuming your account hasn't already been flagged as low quality
>>50586396yeah you can
>>50586173There's not 100 vtubers with 1M sub clip/short channels. Or even 100k channels. It's really hard to do and you also need to be incredibly lucky. There's a lot of people who have tried shorts and gone nowhere, but there's a lot of people who have tried to be regular vtubers and gone nowhere too.
Happy pride month Holobros
>>50581864majority of them are probably viewbots. that site doesn't have any anti-bot measures at all.
>See Kiara with 3.6k on a Minecraft stream>"Oh, she must be in superchat reading already">Actually playing the gamethe grimmest of grim
>>50586500Happy watchamacallit sister
>>50586396Normal latency on youtube is nit optimal and you dont want to domit in case of a yab.
>>50586500>>50586587male EN corpo vtubers were a huge mistake and everyone would have been better off if they never happened. Hololive, Nijisanji, everyone. Literally every corpo.
>>50586584Kiara is mostly outside of the EN box and especially at this hours. Doesn't help that EN has failed to really do anything with MC so you can't get people outside of your fanbase to tune in.
>>50586584People aren't amused by the Austrian returning to her roots
why the sudden image dumpling?
>>50586584>still in fucking phoenixtownKiara issue is that she doesnt want to let go
>>50586592Spoiler that shit
did any holo or homostar mention pride month
>>50586697pissing your pants now, nijishart?
>>50586500I'm baffled that it was the dudes that brought in this shit and not the girls
>>50584974>20 of the top 29 are hololive members>25 of 35 members of HoloJP are in the top 50And people say HoloJP isn't utterly dominant.
>>50586741oh, it's a bvtmfag, hello, keep posting niji pics, don't care
>>50586786cope
>>50586720That's even worse than I thought. >>50586676 I guess she just doesn't give a fuck.
>>50586739Vox made a textbook post about it.
>>50586587PLEASE DELETE IT SIR
>>50586739Mr Paradise is celebrating it right now with some man to man action
>>50586720Wait…. She didn’t go to the merged server yet?
>>50584974>>50586756Salami is going to drop under HoloEN at this rate.
>>50586858Yeah she hasnt built anyyhing there.
>>50584974>Toko is EN tier nowGrim. Bad content choice for the month?
>>50586756who says that unironically or not just for the sake of shitposting?
>>50586858She is busy with killing villagers
Pathetic
>>50586841Based intimate male interactions enjoyer
>>50586880Is she mentally retarded? Why is staying behind in a mostly abandoned server?Is she publishing her music on MySpace and checking in on foursquare as well?
I just realized, tomorrow is EN concert right?
>>50586897>7k median>EN tierroru
>>50586236To be counted as a view you have to stay on the video longer than 30 seconds. Don’t know the exact time but it has to be more than 30 seconds. You’re misunderstanding video view with live view. Those are different but if you have premium it seems like it’ll count anything as long as you’re on the video. Don’t have proof it’s just that one of the selling points of premium is being able to watch while not on the site and full ad rev to the youtuber at all times.
>>50585722Did he start as a streamer or clip uploader first?
>>50586927Don't shitpost.
>>50586812>voxomega wished vox was a homostarthe reason EN is in such a shit state is because he tried to get his own vox into EN
>>50586897>NowShe was higher in the past but so was HoloEn. Toko has always been HoloEn tier…
>>50586697Just shit on phasetrash to make him stop dumping stupid pics about niji.It works for me last time.
>>50586944Please don't pretend anything would change if she went on to the new server. Look at Fauna who could be there for 4 hours and no one joins her. It's the middle of the night in JP and even Kaela left.
>>50586950Isn't it next month?
>>50586944Because autism and doesnt want to move on. She doesnt want to depend on jp server which i understand but also isnfucking stupid at this point.
>>50586756When has anyone ever actually said that recently? Hololive has been dominant since mid 2020 and the dominance grows every year
>>50586950July 2nd
>>50586950july anon, not june
>>50585271Next year duhh
did anykara release the full report?
>>50587021>>50587008>>50587029Fuck, I switch up my months.
>>50586950I'll have whatever you're having right now.
>>50586950Oh my god, I have to get to LA quick! Holy shit! I almost missed it. Thanks for reminding me anon. I'm going to hop into my car right this second without reading any other posts in this thread. Can't spare the time.
>>50587075Don't get shot anon, good luck!
>>50586266The Japanese are failures lui would already be a mother if she was over here
>>50587005If she was building in the main server she might get comments from the ID and JP members when they login.
>>50586115So you agree that there shouldn't be any further HoloEN members based in Europe since the EU folks will just watch the JP night owls?
>>50587051not yetNext week, I think.
>>50586459How many vtubers have actual channels over a million? Bot
>>50586756>HoloJP isn't utterly dominant.Who the hell says that outside obvious shitposters?
>>50584107I think Mumei already hinted at her next one being formal
>>50581520What site did you use for this? Reveddit?
>>50587137yep that's right
We need a EU Holo who follows footy, does match day watchalongs, and player ratings.
>>50586676Stop making excuses go check her old Minecraft streams before july 2022 on the debuff server
Kiara is way too enthusiastic about burning villagers alive
>>50586189>AZKi and Sora as the centers on top>Fubuki and Matsuri as centers on bottomnice
>>50587137There's nothing stopping a European vtuber from streaming at night. It's not like they have children or another job, they can sleep and work whenever they choose to.
>>50587005It's a viewer thing, anon. People will show up if they hear she's looking around or doing something on the shared server rather than this place. Compare any Holo server MC stream to solo worlds.
daily reminder that Mumei is close to 900k and im all for that.hell, she might reach 1 million before irys.
>>50586500When he makes the Twitter post then you can do your thing. I think only Vox has done one so far though I stay the fuck away from Twitter myself other than the links shared here.
>>50587211Stop shitposting.
>>50585014Based anon, list all their lie so those ennafag can't counter shit.
>>50587137isn't that obvious by Kiara's numbers? almost all the euros I know did their reps years ago and are watching JP chuubas
I thought there were no KFPs in this thread
>>50586592This is... fake, I hope?
>>50584843
>>50587348Nah, but it's old as fuck.
>>50587277At their current growth she will.
>>50587302Why won’t you check May then homobeggar
>>50587201She'd be the most powerful western chuba
>>50587277I was hoping she'd pass Kronii this year, won't happen if she keeps needing breaks
>>50587342I always have this thread open to catch the /news/ but i never talk about Kiara
>>50587395It’s a 15k difference it’s happening this month
>>50587201what about a holo who on top of that does Fifa streams with pack openings
>>50587005Kaela is currently considered the GOD of the server merely by the fact she’s present, even if she’s not sharing the same slots as the other girls more often than not. Even Fauna never encountering any JP girl, her work gets mentions here and there
>>50587342There only 3 thread worth going in this board, where else anon.
>>50587342Yup they are in global. Anybody larping as kfp here is just trying to get (you)s. It mostly isn't effective so they larp as nijisisters or homobeggars instead which guarantees (you)s.
>>50587342love numbers and my orange chicken
>>50587201She'd enjoy a massive 1k average viewership, which to be fair is really good by StarsJP standards
>>50587392>Randomly brings up homosThanks for the info, Nijisis.
>>50586584You absolute retard. Even faunas minecraft numbers are down. Minecraft is only a buff if there is a chance of interaction
Did Kiara talk about the super daily yab on the level of her spilling some water on her shirt yet?
>>50587429Nah, 2 months from now at the earliest based on growth, need to account for Kronii sub growth too (gap is 16k since Kronii ticked earlier today)
>>50587211Kiara literaly had 5k minecraft streams in 2021 when en still had 20k streams
>>50587506Just keep defending them
I take it Kiara isn't clarifying her vagueposting
>>50587499Mate, Sana should have taught you that a Holo girl could debut, stop streaming consistently IMMEDIATELY, visit her channel once a month to spam the shittiest Pokémon game and >OUTRANK EVERY NIJIEN GIRL AND HOMOSTAR BOYwith ease.
>>50587543Her avocado from Hello Fresh was rotten
>>50587561Kronii barely grows at 5k a month long as she gets 20k she wins
>>50587584>Talking about Kiara's MC numbers>Retard randomly loses their mind and starts talking about homos.Not sure what sort of mental illness you have, but take your meds. Preferably a lot more than you should be taking.
>>50587632I honestly can't tell if this is a serious answer or not
>>50587585Gomen my math must be wrong I thought 5k was bigger 3k.
>>5058764920k per month isn't happening in this EN sub climate esp with no trickle down subs from people like Gura. I think Gura has been stuck at 0 0 0 for a while now.
>>50587734
>>50587001the way those faggots making fun of niji really makes me hate phase connect to be honest.
>>50586052>>50586189>>50586195It's one of the WACTOR chuubas. The company rebranded after the LITERAL BLACK CORPO YAB where they basically took over one of their talent's account to hard dox them.META-MUSIC is one of the new rebranded companies. Miu stayed with them. Dunno what this is about though since I don't read moon.
>>50587683At least try harder
>>50587787Not the way they mimic the nijiniggers? And this?
>>50587616Sanners was kinda entertaining IF only she weren't a negra
>>50583482Well I mean they filter out people who actually doesn't watch>Tabbed out>Have adblock (Can't watch ads)
>>50587736Yes and? Minecraft used to be a vig buff game that could get almost every en to 10k. Now not even the biggest ens except gura manage that
>>50587616to be fair sana was entertaining and had great banter, it's just she though this was gonna be a side thing and didn't want to put all that work
>>50587899Retard she was getting 5k-7k last year on the debuff server yet on the buff one she can barely hold 4k it’s not a minecraft problem
>>50586927It's good business. It's free to post something like that and get a few more members.
>>50584342I mean Kiara pretty much confirmed Omega is gone in that member stream, pretty clear she hated him as much as we do and probably other members shared similar feelings. No idea if the homo obsession actually came from that dude in the first place or was he just too lazy and self-absorbed to say no when beggars (probably including Yagoo himself) pushed their dumb ideas so rather than homolover he was just a passive faggot with no vision and understanding of the fanbase.
>>50587969>buffIt isn't a buff server and that is the point. Everybody numbers are lower or how else would you explain fauna 8k? Kiara only used to get good minecraft numbers when she had a clear interesting goal lile elytra or frogs
>>50588067>or how else would you explain fauna 8k?She was overlapped with Ina the full fucking way through
>>50587966I am sick of you retards pretend like you have always liked Sana because she isn’t here anymoreBack when she was still here all of you keep spamming about Le voice and her skin color and how bad she is in collab
>>50588164Anon you are in /#/. People shit on hee because they use shitting on hologirls to feel better about their own failures
>>50581869/#/ supports the cause
>>50588164hey dont include me on that i still dont like sana
>>50588164Relax. Take a drink.
>>50582220Pekora been really slacking, I hope this slacking mean she have ways to bounce back in the work
>>50588164I didn't like her but i can still acknowledge that she had potential if she didn't fucked off to the point that every council collab felt like she was collabing with them for the first time
>>50588067>Everyone’s numbers are lower It’s definitely minecraft and no outside factors. Being gay is supposed to be a minority but so many of them appear here
>>50588164>/#/ is one hiveminddon't be retarded anon, sana/kronii micra was some the most kino content in holoEN
>>50588336She was literally a cute girl doing cute thingsShe like playing Kirby and draw cute stuffs, always positive and smile even if she is a bit crude at times
>>50588393Sounds like Fauna but Fauna didn't give up and gets called fake instead.
>>50588386It wasn’t
Are Vspo chuuba today bigger than others?Can they tank the Friday debuff and break their own record?
>>50587839Actual bot response. Your handler not giving you enough gift cards these days, Nijisis?
I wish Omega include physical feats in the girls lore so I can Jack off to it
>>50588463Not on Friday. I think they'll still get good numbers, but not a new record.
>>50588463Beni's 3d debut will break every record with the power of sex (Beni sex) (sex with Beni)
mr koro has free friday?
>>50588463Nah doubt any of them beat Ema let alone Nose. Hope I get proven wrong though and Beni pulls through.
She look like someone I know but can’t quite put my finger on it
>>5058620970K now
>>50582220Why is Peko playing so much kusoge lately? Never heard of this shit she played today.
>>50588555She's been streaming for about 6 hours today, +3 hours including her mengen watch along and immediately went with her SF6 streamNo, she'll be spending it with me
>>50581183May was gonna be Miko's month she came out the gate flying, but ended up getting sick.Proud of my baby nonetheless.
>>50588647only Sonico comes to my mindmaybe it's the hair, it reminds me of Tsuji Santa's art style
I'm hopeful but also kind of dread if EN3 is over qualified. If they outclass the old heads of HoloEN I hope they don't lose motivation. That's my only fear I have.
250k doryaaaaahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU2m_Dh5mS4
>>50588164>Back when she was still here all of you keep spamming about Le voice and her skin colorWhat? Sana was arguably /vt/‘s favorite when she first debuted.
>>50588704It’s the new mascot horror game, Koyori played it too as well as some ENAlso it’s because the new perm guy is competent so as I said, the girls will be able to play all the numberpoison kusoge they want now, consider it a trade
>>50588961Holy fuck that's some insane growth.Helps that the song is so short I guess.
>>50588922I hope they outclass the old heads, maybe it will light a fire and get them to try
>>50588922fuck them lazy bitches, it should motivate them more if anything else, like how much Gen 3 impacted Holo as a whole
I want to fuck bae so badly her design is insane why is she like this bros please I want
>>50588922That would be the best case scenario, the lack of competition only leads to stagnation
>>50588974No she isn’t, she is /vt/ favorite as in you can use her as shitpost materials
>>50588922A little competition never hurt anyone. It invigorates the soul.Being at the top with no threat or pressure is how stagnation occurs.
>>50588961gonna need the Fubu/Miko mashup now
>>50589033bruh
>>50588974her debut intro was good ngl
>>50589033Wrong thread. Her recline makes me sick
>>50589080Her outfit stream was pretty cool as well, the way she do it
>>50589012Yeah Gen 3 impacted>checks notesUhh, Sora, Roboco, Mel, Haachama, Matsuri, AkiRose, Aqua, Shion, Choco, and Ayame. Really lit a fire under their asses.
>>50583610actually I remember Lamy mentioned that Nene goes around her house pretty much naked with one pair of white oversized panties and nothing else.
Why is bae incapable of inclining especially with that design? Is her personality that bad
>>50589165I love Nene
>>50589165>nene wandering around nude
[Sad News] haatons are starting to lose their hope
>>50588922I’m not worried because my Oshi isn’t shit. But a lot of ENs frankly deserve to be shown up by a new gen.
>>50589187Yes. It is impossible to listen to her for more than 20 minutes because she is too much of a fake zoomer
>>50589187bae is a normalfag, she doesn't appeal to nerds into vtubing but normalfags also don't get into her because vtubers are weird to them
>>50589161To be fair streaming culture was not a big thing in Hololive until gen 3 bring a bunch of people with streaming experience in. I bet you we wouldn’t have as many stream to watch these day if they weren’t there to show their senpai how it’s done. Even Sora got better at streaming
>>50589161You're basing that on the current climate and not how it used to be?
>>50589228That's understandable, when was the last time they got an update about her?
>>50588922I hope they do, the girls really need competition to wake the fuck up
>>50588164So I get her antis shitting on Sana due to being "wasted slot" or whatever even if holding any grudges over a year later is retarded but I really don't get why they also go out of their way to also slander and diminish everything related to her as well, like seriously you would think she killed their dog and forced them to eat it or some shit
>>50589187She's in the process of inclining right now. She just needs to make smart content choices and appeal to the Holobox as much as possible.Navigating a Holo career is like being the captain of a coastal frigate. You have to avoid the shallows where you run aground, but you also have to avoid the deep seas. The Holo is like the helmsman also. And the Holo is also the quartermaster. And the Holo is also the cook. And their manager is like the first mate.
>>50589187She lacks real charisma. That's about it. She can be funny sometimes but overall she's either boring or annoying.
>>50589263>until gen 3 bring a bunch of people with streaming experience injesus this thread is killing me today
>>50589161All of those in their second anniversary streamed more than the current EN girls
>>50589263>To be fair streaming culture was not a big thing in Hololive until gen 3 bring a bunch of people with streaming experience inI swear to god, you people just make shit up on they fly as you type.
>>50589244This is now the new cope. Bae is too cool for vtubing
>>50589373>She's in the process of inclining right nowYou faggots have been saying this for close to 2 years.
>>50589232Who is your oshi? I feel like all of EN are stuck in a tar pit of dead motivation at this point.
>>50589187Give her time being a vtuber is not a race it's a marathon. Most of the first army started off pretty small and inclined through out the years bae will be the same will do to her skill set.
All I know about the rat is that I wanna impregnate her.
I just think it's sad that such a sex design is kinda wasted on Bae same with Kronii
>>50588922>EN3 is all on JP level>They manage to bring back good chunk of people that fucked off >Even reignite motivation in Myth>Then you wake up
>>50589187When I watched the Phone collab with JP I had pavlovian reflex to turn off that stream at the start because Bae started with WHAT'S UP GUYS, her mannerism and behavior is literally a random let's player from 10 years ago
>>50589436They just weren’t ever good. People let it slide because they’re woman but then they decided to be bitches. It made them rely on actual personality and now the only people that watch them are those obsessed with them.Gura not included though
>>50589423Rome wasn't built in a day. It took Michelangelo 4 years to paint the Sistine Chapel. Da Vinci took 3 years to paint the Mona Lisa but he continued to make changes for decades after. Great art takes time.
just realized i can use hololyzer instead of holodex as a schedule to avoid seeing the homos
>>50589559No great art takes talent.
>>50589559Rome was already build with Holo JP fag
Oh wow Bae might actually pass Fauna in subs thanks to that dick stream.
>446k viewshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzsObRfnyaY
>>50589559You forgot the important part in all of these, it's talent which she doesn't have, she' like Hitler wanting to become an artist and failing at it
>>50589481I just want the new gen to bring back unity collabs. Those were the funnest times for holoEN for me. Everyone just having fun during big collabs and stuff. Bring me back to when Council were new babies.
How can rat beat the green woman what is this
>>50589592Or you can just block the homos on holodex
>>50589640Why don't they just make Starsdex? What percentage of Holodex users actually click on Stars streams?
>>50589636Everyone know streaming is bad for sub
A SINGLE KORONE AMONGST EN3 WOULD SAVE EN
>>50589044Sana didn’t really lose grace here until the dog hort arc. She might have had low numbers, but she had a pretty strong cult following on /vt/ similar to Kiara in the beginning. Certainly more than Bae and Fauna.
>>50589080As soon as I saw her put astrology shit on her debut/schedule I noped the fuck out.
>>50589674That kind of woman would've already been a tradwife in the western hemisphere but I do agree we need more Hags
>>50589640too much work when i use a different pcand im not logging in to that site eitheri dont even watch streams on holodex so hololyzer is just better in every way
>>50588998this parody(?) isn't having an insane growth...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xewX2FSGbcA
If nousagi are numberfag why are they enabling Pekora playing kusoge after kusoge? I want the January Pekora back
>>50589673The fact that starsdex isn't a thing probably gives you an estimation, unless they are unityfags that fell for the holopro shit
>>50589187She just doesn't have the personality to capitalize on her design. She's fairly boring and off-putting both in personality and demeanor.
>>50589686Her actual fans were more numerous than Bae's from what I remember well until the graduation arc where her raised activity boosted everyone's perception of her hard
>>50588704run out of games to stream since all the new releases are even a bigger number poison than kuso games
>>50589686So, she was liked for the first month.
>>50583213They might finally make the next step since 2019 and merge holostars with hololive like anykara merged ID&KR for the same reason --> IPO. Shinove quitting and those weird "holopro" overlap bans would also point in this direction.
>SanaWho?>KroniiWho?>BaeWho?The only CouncilRyS I care about are Fauna, Moon and IRyS
>>50589733stop ban evading seashitter
>>50589728This one is doing well thohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-sWXaZmovk
What the? Why is Kiara not in the new server?
>>50589436>stuck in a tar pit of dead motivationThe actual solution would be to figure out why this is this case and change it. However, it looks like it's a systemic issue or something that can't be made public without breaching contract. Even if we get an EN3, what would suck is if these issues are not addressed at all and they end up becoming just as demotivated as the rest of EN after a year or two.
>>50589846Looks likes she just wants to organize stuff and chat with her fans
>>50588922At this point I lost hope in the EN speaking community.EN3 won't change things that much. We'll just get more streams and that's it.
>>50589768Sana's core audience was always below Bae's. Sana was the runt of all Hololive outside of ID.
>>50589830The fuck are you talking about faggot, and I'm not sea, retard.
>>50589815>vapid boring cunt with fake voice>retard that's forever on break>throat hort lazy bitchDamn they ALL suck.
>>50589628Fall 2021 was so kino. All the Minecraft and new collab pairings and stuff... Every week was like something new and exciting
>>50589897I feel like we have an inkling about what it is considering headless way the managers have been acting
The JOPs mock me with having a korone I can't even understand her most of the time Yet I enjoy her streams more than any ens
>>50589897But we know exactly what the issue is, it's the fucking management and lack of new people combined
>>50589844feels like i need a blunt for that
>>50589768There is a reason it was called the Sana line, she was always the runt even when she did stream.
>>50590019You can say a lot about EN but they sure haven't been quiet about the things that irks them
>>50589997BASED FELLOW KORONESUKI
>>50584893Jesas. How fucking stacked is Korone, really? All I know is Okayu and Marine saying that she's huge.
>>50589808Yes, that is precisely what I’m arguing. Following the chain of responses and you’ll see that I’m specifically rebuking that poster who said people here hated Sana because of her voice and skin color which is patently false.
>>50588922Myth already has no motivation and the only one that could get dishearted in Council is Bae
>>50589559Rome was also built 2000 or so years ago, you can't use the same excuse in modern cities.Bae isn't a "founding member" pioneering a path in the VTubing genre, she's someone who's following the paths established by her senpai over the past 5 years.Bae's also been a Hololive Talent for longer than Coco had been.And she contributed more to Hololive within two MONTHs than what Bae has contributed in 2 YEARS.
Who would have though seeing women that are happy, enjoy the chat, and enjoy the game they are playing would make the viewer happy
>>50584893
Only ccv that matters is debut ccv therefore Myth was the failure and not Council.
>>50587766I really like this Mumei. Her showcase is gonna be a smug treat.
>>50590028Shitposts from this song are pretty high quality all aroundhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtGDGCxq6m8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqKoQYc1Hck
>>50589900These girls make anons here seem like social butterflies. They are actively trying to avoid any interaction with other JP members or EN members .
>>50589724this but horsepussy
>>50589946yes you are, you posted this same thing last night or the day before with your catchphrase
I think the next en gen is going to be a mixed gen.They would not get rid of a perfectly good twitter account for no reason and replace it . Their going to use the old holopro en account and turn it into a shilling program for their new mixed gen project. A group that nether hololive or holostars
>>50589986I'd argue the excitement carried EN for at least 6 months. Even a small break during winter they managed to make Summer amazing. Then the last 9 months were absolutely awful. Like stuck in a limbo hellscape of nothing to watch.
So when was enna marriage stream again?
>>50589724sorry i meant this>>50589674
>>50590155>He thinks Rome was just "built" at some point and stopped changingRome was built over the course of thousands of years anon that's the point of the saying. Rome was founded in 753 BC and the Colosseum was opened in 80 AD, for example.
> Aki's Live and Aqua's stream trended at #1 and #2 worldwideJesas, Hololive stronk
>>50590166FUCK! LOOK AT THEM HANDS! LOOK AT THE GAP, HOW FUCKING LARGE ARE HER KNOCKERS
>>50589927Her core audience on YouTube yes, but not her core audience on /vt/. Bae and Fauna had almost no traction here until much later on.
>>50590226>last nightLast night I was plowing your mother, I wasn't even on the site and it's 3 pm for me.
>>50590244the cuckening never ends
>>50589997Doog is cuteGive doog your yubi
>>50590327I already gave her my yubi down under
>>50590244The cuckoldry will continue until her numbers improves
>>50590166holy FUCK
>>50589830why are you lying on an anonymous image board
>>50590166Has she ever given her actual size?
>>50590166Her hands are floating far out from her chest but still close around her waistShe do be huge
>>50590418meant for >>50589946
>>50590268So you're saying Bae is a VaaS then?VTuber as a Service?
>>50590445No. Only thing we know is that she's stacked according to Marine.
So we agree it's the IRyS line right?
I thought iyrs has good numbers
>>50590580when she does karaoke or minecraft
>>50589810That would actually cause problems and no way shareholders would accept that. Even if ever holo doubled their numbers after this the income would drop because sponsors would have to include homos so instead 8 selling well that’s 2 that aren’t moving. It would attach actual dead weight to the girls
>>50590526nope Kiara line
Don’t look now, but the runt of Council is about to pass the runt of HoloX in subs.
Who
>>50590664>israelHagbros, our response???
>>50590682Have western vtubers really reclined this hard?
>>50590623Kia>ais
SHE FINALLY DID IT
>>50589897Of Gura’s upcoming projects being 6-7 only one of them was released and it’s the only one that involved cover spending money. She’s talked about the animation and original nearing completion but jazz reflect is complete and she can’t release it. So being completed means nothing.
>>50590463I'm saying that Hololive is a beautiful collaborative project like the ancient city of Rome. And Sora and A-chan are Romulus and Remus. And Pekora is Julius Caesar. And Suisei is Virgil. And Gawr Gura is Hadrian. And Fauna is Marcus Aurelius. And Bae is Antoninus Pius.
>>50590240They did a winter wonderland event for Christmas
>>50590782Who the fuck is madman Nero then?
>>50590782who will be the nero that burns down everything?
>>50590782Ah shit, wait. Bae can't be Antoninus Pius, I mixed my timeline up.>>50590809Omega
>>50590708To masterbate to Ruinee
>>50590831Nero was cool fuck you for casting Omega as him
Now that I think about it has there ever actually been a Twitchtuber that ever broke into 100k+ CCV range? The largest streams I've seen only break 40k but never go above 50k.
>>50590809Mori>Loved by unwashed masses>Drunk on poison>Degenerate>Watches hololive burning while singing
This is the month when we will witness that majority of Tempus fanbase is just males with different pronouns
>>50590809>>50590821kronii. see the hair vents?
>>50590866Xqc is a vtuber so him
>>50590809>>50590821Yagoo
>>50590912He's a convert so that doesn't count.
>>50590019All we have is vague hints pieced together from reading between the lines of comments made by talents, LinkedIn pages, Cover's IPO and 2023 FY reports, interviews with Cover staff and Yagoo, and the actions of people who run the EN Twitter and Reddit. This is hardly knowing "exactly what the issue is", but it's our best guess from the outside looking in. We still don't know crucial details, like how much control and autonomy the EN management actually has compared to the rest of the company. Or how management is actually structured and what processes they use to determine things like project work/funding and recruitment. It's easy to just replace everyone and call it a day, but if the issues are systemic, like stifling bureaucratic processes, it's just going to happen again with a new set of people.
En needs a Aurelian to save them it's so bad