/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Yes, she's leaving a job where she does nothing and makes millions. Because why would you want to stay there?

>>50675035
>why
I blame Tempus

>>50675075
What did they do to her?

>>50675136
Nothing since Fauna, IRyS, Kiara and Mumei don't seem to have the same problem. Sounds like a skill issue on Gura's end.

>>50675002
she going to mystic/vshojo isnt she

peak schizo hours I wonder why?

>connect the world
>then disconnects

>>50675704
gonnect my cock with your nuts

>>50675775

>>50675002
Taking away outlast trials perms was the last straw. Everything Gura finds joy in is stripped away from her.

Why would she leave? She can play with her actual friends all day while making bank for almost no effort

I cant blame gura when every game you wanna play gets banned by faggots at management and repeatedly just tells you to stream minecraft and like it.
Meanwhile nijien just finished guras current favorite game today

>>50676120
>implying shes actually friends with anyone in hololive

>>50676043
She was playing it offline anyways like she cares if she streamed it or not.

>>50676343
connect my dicjï

>>50676343
Cope

>>50676343
She liked it enough to come back for a stream. That's saying something.

>>50676251
I talked about her private friends, anonchama.

>>50675075
>>50676043
>Asking when will her lovely Kouhai will debut
>management: here, your lovely kouhai (homotrash)

>Why I cant play outlast trial anymore?
>management : because you need to support your kouhai(homotrash) first

Cant really blame her though, she literally stop streaming when she knew there will be homo shitshow happen instead of EN3

>>50675002
we sisters will be celebrating with champagne when the announcement goes live

>>50677998
>>50675242

>>50678044
I see you love falseflagging as a woman tranny

>>50677998
If only she would leverage her value towards forming some kind of union with the anti-homo faction.

I wish I had half the energy or time to speculate about this shit like you bitches do. Yeah you read that right: Bitches. Not faggots, not troons, bitches. You're like a bunch of chittering fucking schoolgirls. Nauseating.

>>50678472
I wish gura has half the energy to stream instead of sucking his boyfriends cock all day

>>50678634
>his
ESLchama…

They should just haachama her at this point.
To all our fans, thank you for the support. Gaur Goobers the Shork will be on an indefinite hiatus for some reason like health or shit idk. She will not be able to stream during this time please understand. We will keep you updated (actually we won't, but other Holomen will say you are doing fine from time to time and we can continue to sell your merch). Sincerely, Blue Dorito.

>>50675002
Even if she leaves and goes indie or joins some other group, she's still not gonna stream a lot. If anything, she should invest the money she's made from Hololive into something smart for her future and fuck off from the internet forever.

En = mori coz shes obese
Jp = mio or polka coz theyre morbidly obese

>>50675002
Hold up, this isn't the "Look at my cute shork wife" thread.

No seriously, there isn't one there on catalog for once. Maybe the mods nuked him?

>>50677998
Do chumbuds really?

>>50675002
>channel with the most number of subs
>biggest mascot and flagship character of hololive
>tons of merch and sponsorship deals
>one of the most recognizable designs, maximum normalfag mindshare
>management allows an extremely lax streaming schedule similar to what ayame, shion, and aqua have since they do not want you to quit and become a potential competitor
If I was in her position, why would I ever want to leave?

>>50680239
Yes, they actually believe their oshi hates men while she is out there getting a sunburn.

>>50678472
Putas, even.

Pinche putos, the lot of them.

>>50678198
Like some kind of clique?

>>50680297
Sunburn?

>>50675002
Hope so, at least the world will be rid of the chumpedos.

>>50676200
I can't blame Pomu when every Cent you earn gets 98% taken by faggots at management and repeatedly just tell you to shill cookie cutter keychains and like it.
Meanwhile holoen just finished selling out of plushies five minutes after release

>>50680281
>Making sisters and trannies seeth doing nothing
Yeah if it was me I would never quit

>>50675002
As long as Cover lets her do what she does, I dunno why she would honestly. It's basically free money. If she had any real guilt for her fans or shame about how bad it looks for the branch/Cover's image that she's disappeared for half a year? She'd have done something about it.

So I don't think she cares much anymore really. What's most surprising to me is how many people just sit on their hands lamenting about this and pining over Gura all fucking day/night in /ggg/ instead of go do literally fucking anything else. She's not that fucking important. No vtuber is.

>>50675002
naw the moneys too good shed be an absolute retard to willingly give such an easy paycheck for 9 hours of streams a month.shes just blue ayame

>>50675704

>>50680281
>If I was in her position, why would I ever want to leave?
Gura is dumb.

>>50684281
>>50682424
>gets mad about nijisanji
>is literally the same as the average nijigroid who stans for the company instead of the vtubers

>>50682575
They're the ones happy that Gura is staying silent and sabotaging herself.

>>50675331
Imagine the state of this board

>>50681848
She tweeted that her ISP went down and she went outside and got a sunburn

>>50675035
Stalkers but that's just speculation

>>50675002
No. She doesn't have the balls to quit because of the uproar it would cause. Besides, she's raking in millions without actually having to do anything and Cover seems to be fine with it. Quitting would be idiotic.

>>50686350
People quit easy, high-paying jobs all the time. I'm not saying she will, but it's not impossible by any means. Really it depends on what's going on with her lately and none of us actually know. If she's so desperately unhappy with Hololive and/or management or whatever than quitting is not unlikely. If she's just got something else going on in her life than quitting is less likely, but still possible. Never underestimate what people will do when they're no longer happy or comfortable where they're at.

Hopefully she quits and comes back as a 2 view
Then she may stream of there's not 208769 regulations weighing her down

>>50675002
whether she likes it or not, she has become one of the four pillars of hololive's current success, along with sora, pekora, and suisei
any one of them either leaving or retiring will cause the company to collapse
better find replacements fast, yagoo, your girls ain't getting younger
and in case you're wondering, nijiseethji's current four pillars in my opinion are mito, kuzuha, vox, and salome
prove me wrong

>>50686976
And how many high-paying jobs require you to do literally nothing but exist? Because that's Gura's current "job", and Cover will keep renewing her contract as long as she's profitable.

>>50687734
>And how many high-paying jobs require you to do literally nothing but exist?
There are literally jobs like that, and they are soul-destroying. Teachers who got shuffled out of classrooms because of scandals and instead get paid to sit in their containment room, union workers who aren't allowed to work for one reason or another but can't be fired so they just sit in a room and play cards, or whatever. Hell it's specifically a Japanese technique of soft-firing a person by giving them no actual work or responsibilities, making their work experience so awful that they quit.

Regardless, that's not really Gura's situation. She doesn't stream, but she's not doing literally nothing. She has a manager, she has to attend meetings, she's required to perform for major 3D events and she does other types of pre-recorded content as well. She still has a fanbase she refuses to stream to acting as an anchor of expectations around her neck etc etc. She doesn't work as hard as other members but she's not doing literally nothing, and if she hates where she is that much, she could leave. I'm not saying it'll definitely happen. I don't know wtf is going on with Gura and neither does anyone else on this board, but it's possible she quits. It's ALWAYS possible for someone to quit their job if they're unhappy, that's all I'm saying. She would not be the first, or the last. And having a fat bank account just makes quitting easier, because it's not like she needs to keep clocking in to work to pay her bills. She's Gura, she could basically go anywhere and do anything and still be doing OK, when it comes down to it.

>>50678472

No. She has nothing to gain by quitting and Cover has nothing to gain by firing her. She's just gonna stay in Ayame mode forever.

>>50688393
I think the student has surpassed the master kek

>>50675002
She already left anon...

gura just does not like EN management, if she needs to get her daki approve going to the JP management what does that tell you, gura is having a war with EN management, i think that gura started her streaming problems when she and Ame disagreed with the homos getting into hololive, Ame is a big troon supporter and very 'inclusive' person, gura is not and because management still has troons supporters she will never be free, they need to let Kiara and Gura fire all management and let them chose the managers, Kiara knows the most people and Gura knows what to seek on them, but until then Gura is not coming back, the sad thing is that she is not being proffesional about it and the fanbase is paying greatly, gura will stream but not on her channel, until this war ends.

>>50675002
>I'm tired of making free money guys bye
Yeah I can see it.

>>50689884
Then Gura should start streaming outside Hololive to show EN management what they're missing out on.

Gotta love the niggers itt pretending EN has some kind of value left, if not for Gura this garbage of a branch would be mogged by the likes of VShojo and other big names daily. Mori and Council are a walking embarrassment, Ina who has the highest proportion of parasocial fans, Kiara and Ame forever stuck in the talentless hell, Tempiss not worthy to even lick the dirt off the girls shoes, etc...

You can have opinions, just don't be blindly optimistic over your favorite chuubas

>>50690440
she already tried once using her alt account on twitter wich already had many subscribers, do you think that EN management did not threat her to not stream in her alt, like i said she is in war with the troons in magament and i bet that they have her information for doxxing as usually to blackmail her, the troons tries to harass people, the troons are not fiable people for those positions as they always take everything personal and are not proffesional in this type of environment.

>>50677048
She was invited by the others. Otherwise she wouldn't have stream anyway.

>>50690876
If JP is so talented why do they all do the same type of streams and never do anything unique without the help of ten bajillion Cover staff members working with them in person?

>>50675002
no. she is already gone.

>>50675002
That's the best case scenario. She'll re-debut 2 hours after the graduation stream as the newest member of Vshojo.

>>50686334
ohh, interesting, ppl do have a lot of private information of her and her family, no doubt she must have a coupe of 24/7 stalkers

>>50690876
Anon wat value does vshoujo and indies like filian provide outside 4 digit numbers and maybe doing dumb shit cuz twitch/indies? Please don’t tell me react content and either catering to coomers or zoomer humor is something valuable now…

>>50677998
The Sana Method, god speed little shark. May you purge the Homotrash from our reality.

Ok just move on then? Not like Hololive still needs her aside from selling dino plushies.

>>50687636
You're wrong on a bunch of things. First of all, any EN retiring from both companies won't really be a big hit. EN is fucking nothing, their numbers are abysmal across the board. EN viewers moved on but JP industry strives even more than in covid years. EN branches were and always will be seen just as a pleasant bonus. When evaluating which talents leaving will hurt the company the most it's obvious that you should look only at JP ones. Gura leaving will tank the moral of EN branch but it's not like they're doing that much anyway. Most JPs will probably be just a bit sad and continue streaming like nothing happened because most of them didn't really interact with her and have nothing to say about her other than "Gura-chan kawaii". Hololive JP viewers won't budge and EN viewers will probably be sad but losing the girl who literally never streams won't do much.
If we're talking about Hololive, I'd say that Marine, Pekora or Miko leaving would be absolutely devastating and could lead to collapse, also Suisei and Sora would be pretty bad. Suisei is a valuable asset with traction her songs get and Sora might be unpopular but losing daisenpai would absolutely tank the motivation of everyone in the company.
If we're talking Niji, their best content is collabs and big events because outside of them they mostly do their own stuff that's interesting only to fans of a specific liver. Losing Vox wouldn't do shit, he's not nearly as popular as he used to be and a lot of his content is niche stuff that only dedicated viewers tune into. From EN branch maybe losing someone like Elira or Millie would be the worst but it still wouldn't do shit for JP branch, most people watching NijiJP wouldn't even bat an eye if the whole NijiEN graduated tomorrow. The most valuable people in Niji are those that do a lot of networking, participate in a lot of collabs and organize events, so I'd say someone like Ryushen, Oliver, Sasaki, Shiina etc. Definitely not Salome.

>>50677998
Actually based if true

>>50699219
Too many words didn't read

>>50685958
>20k ccv on outlast
Gura is as strong as ever as a corporate chuuba, the only person who is losing anything is gura herself by cutting herself off from revenue because she got bored of streaming and she's one of those retarded people who could be handed a million dollar check and blow it all in a year with nothing to show for it.

>>50675002
https://twitter.com/Kojima_Hideo/status/1660735888874434560
notice anything?

>>50697577
Retardchama? Sana interacted with the homos before she left

>>50677998
Meds now.

>>50675331
What if she'd been waiting for nyanners to leave vshojo before joining herself?

>>50675704
connect da world
my final message. Goodb ye

>>50675002
>after
Chumkek, she already left..

>>50675331
The fallout if Gura joined VShojo would probably be the most entertaining thing to happen on this site in years.

>>50701346
>>50675331
>>50701603
She is more likely going to go independent and join mythic, which has more freedom then even vshojo right now due to just being a management company rather then a true agency.

>>50675775
Woah pal how bout you eat my saliche if you know what I’m mean.

>>50675035
Gura is not a monetarily motivated person. If she legitimately has some sort of mental health issue (which Im assuming she gave to Cover), its likely she would prefer to be removed from the public consciousness and go work shoveling horse shit over free membership money but knowing subconsciously haters and schizos are being born every day she doesnt stream.

>>50675775
>>50701782

>>50675002
Sorry shrimps, but she's carrying my seed.

>>50678472
Well o course you don’t have the energy. You never had the makings of a varsity athlete.

yea it's the chumbud fault. the first year of gura vtubing there was barely any weird shit in her chat then idiots began piling in. the wanna be neo-nazi losers. it's so fuckin cringe that she doesn't even want to stream for her fans anymore. Not even real racists just a bunch of douchebags acting like losers on a vtubers chat. real fucking cool guys. YOU DID THIS. gura is jewish you idiots

>>50690996
So all it takes is for people to invite her? Why aren't more people inviting her to do shit then?

>>50675002
There's more to Hololive than streaming.

Here are my rrats.

1. At the end of April 2022 she went on a 2 week break because she said she was moving that she later changed to a "house hunting trip". Right after that she dropped schedules. She might have went to visit Barb and he knocked her up. That would explain all the time she missed starting in November of last year.

2. She's had a boyfriend since last May and ever since has felt guilty about taking money from lonely men while some 33 or 34 year old Swedish chad, who is 10 years older than her, is pounding that little cunny.

3. She just doesn't like streaming anymore and hasn't for about a year. She doesn't care about her fans either. She wishes she could go back to being an indie and streaming 2 times a month and be able to stream with her guy friends on stream. She doesn't stream with men while in Hololive because she knows her fanbase

4. She's been pissed off at management for a long time and as a result is not streaming as much, but she's hurting her fans and doesn't care.

5. She finally realized that they can never get Muse Dash perms again and that was her favorite game and won't be able to play it on stream. She's talked about hoping they could get perms back one day but finally realized it's never going to happen.

6. She might have gotten suspended a couple times behind the scenes, Cover just doesn't want to publicly announce it. Why would she get suspended? It could be that she's done stuff to piss off management on purpose, Gura is a little rebel. Maybe they tried to get her to collab with Homo's and she refuses.

7. She legitimately has a severe health issue. Back in November, she said she didn't want to tell us because it would lead to speculation. Well, that gives the pregnant rrat some credence. What else could she not talk about that would lead to speculation? Maybe she has a terminal disease like ALS and doesn't want the fans to know. That would definitely keep her from streaming.

>>50702202
Took you long enough jake was starting to suspect you were impotent

>>50701346
Did you really just bring up that ancient 5 uear old rrat lol

>>50675002
>the chick who constantly gushes about loving where she is in life is totulally gonna quit right
Meds. Now.

>>50706560
if we leave aside for a moment that she's a good liar, if you think her behavior looks like she 'loves being hololive' you are actually autistic.

>>50675002
To be honest I am starting to think the pregnant at the airbnb rrats were true and the problem is that she has been on maternity leave/can't find time to stream without baby crying.
Either that or she is just having a massive year long fight with management.

you motherfuckers already spent a damn year saying
>S-she'll leave after --- event you'll see!
I don't care who you are or why you post this garbage, find better material retards

>>50710805
Was that the time she hanged out with mori and got party date raped nakadashied?

>>50711123
Yeah. Immediately after it was when she started love bombing chat for a few streams then did drunk offline rust then finally no updates and barely any streams.

>>50688278
>She's Gura, she could basically go anywhere and do anything and still be doing OK, when it comes down to it.
Could she really though? I feel like she is burning people with her antics of late and maybe getting a pass yet thanks to Hololive as well as her iconic design. Whatever she does next I don't see her getting anywhere near as good a design as she currently has. And by then all the bad feels that have been brewing will begin to come home to roost and rot her potential fanbase from within to a degree. I guess she could still do OK but I don't think she would ever be as big as she was ever again.

>>50711461
Also all the people saying Gura will join Mythic ks forgetting one thing.
The top guys in OTK and Mythic hate lolicons and consider them pedos. Gura is a lolicon and those streamers and their fans will attack her unless she restricts herself even more than in hololive.

>>50711669
Fillian is on the roster and orbits OTK really closely. she's pretty much the best 3d-focused loli around right now.

>>50711461
She doesn't have to be as big as she was, is partially my point. The world is full of professional streamers with a live audience of ~100 people, and even Gura at her worst will be pulling several times that and still living a comfortable life. She could eat babies live on stream and still have enough fans left over to pay the bills.

Is there any basis for the speculation of her graduating?

>>50711669
>Gura is a lolicon and those streamers and their fans will attack her unless she restricts herself even more than in hololive.
I am pretty sure that will happen regardless of who she joins, plus mythic streamers are pretty isolated from each other due to mythic just being a management company to help you get sponsorships.

>>50713548
Ghosting her fans and putting in minimal effort for the better part of a year

>>50712700
I could see Gura becoming the Vtuber equivalent of Jonathan Taylor Thomas, the IT kid of the 90s who is a complete Who? nowadays.

>>50712194
plus she collabs with the AI chatbot known as neuro-sama which also uses a loli avatar.

>>50713615
That still doesn't feel like its a point against her graduating, it could just be her just coasting by on doing nothing, and that's being cynical and not assuming that she has a buttload of mental health issues she's dealing with like Imposter Syndrome.
Realistically if she were to graduate, where would she go after this? If she went back to being indie, she wouldn't be able to use the "Busy working" excuse. And while any corp would take her, would she really want to apply? It's not like they'd be good for her mental health, the opposite probably.

>>50710805
She better watch out then.

>>50701893
Gura has no ambition at all. She was a nobody who desperately wanted game/wealth now she has it, she has no further motivation at all. She's a typical brain rot zoomer with money.

>>50686976
>If she's so desperately unhappy with Hololive and/or management or whatever than quitting is not unlikely.
Gura doesn't seem to have any desire to quit but her fighting with management would explain a lot of the past year. Ina and Sana were having major problems with streaming at the same time that Gura's streaming hours went down so I am skeptical that everything that happened in holoEN were isolated "health" problem. There is some type of huge fight in holoEN that escalated with time.

>>50715293
Seems like the only one somewhat satisfied is Kiara, I remember her calling out Gura and Mori when they were trying to push back on their perceived shortfalls by pointing the finger at management while Kiara chastised them a bit in attempting to absolve themselves of any blame.

>>50715700
source: your rectum

>>50715766
source: https://youtu.be/LTgoqNDkLkM?t=6183
Kiss my ass you doubting faggot

>>50675002
What's connect the world?

>>50714007
she will just do nothing.

>>50689884
>Ame is a big troon supporter
Where do you get this shit lmao.

>>50712194
Not to stick up for the other anon, but Filian isn't a loli. Her model might be, but her style is not, and style cannot be ignored in applying the label.

>>50677998
what the hell is this thinking process

>>50675002
EN3 will be revealed right after, right?

>>50703475
Because she's always "busy"

>>50714321
a fan stabbing an idol would only happen if it was a female fan and a male idol.

>>50675035
she loves getting fucked, and the only way to keep getting fucked is to leave her jobs so she can fully focused on getting fucked everyday

>>50675002
Who knows

>>50675002
the way kronii just mentioned in her member's stream dreaming of one of the girls leaving for 3 years for a vacation.. kinda makes you think she's reminded of a certain convo hmm

>>50675002
Based
Every girl should leave this retarded company and become indie

>>50677998
Anon, you're making up scenarios to get angry at again. Remember how you talked with your therapist that this isn't a healthy hobby? How is your job search going? Your dad sounds really serious this time about the ultimatum.

>>50716048
wtf I love Kiara now?

>>50734224
>the way kronii just mentioned in her member's stream dreaming of one of the girls leaving for 3 years for a vacation.
That is a weirdly specific dream since Myth will soon have their 3 year anniversary. Gura and Ina do have problems with management but would be a shock if holoEN had another graduation.

>>50675035
good point

>>50678198
>value
what value? her 4m dead subs? her merch sales doesn't benefit the rest of holo en. she doesn't fucking stream. 0 creative projects since debut. no, paying animators for a softcore naked loli hentai animation doesn't count. her "covers" are organized by other members. 1 original song as the "top" vtuber.

>>50719917
truth, reality, facts

>>50741946
>Form a clique around the pro-unicorn talents like an anti-Enna
>Silent protest and let your brand degrade while keeping your fans in the dark
If only she wasn't a dumb shark

>>50715700
Anon, Kiara is defo terrified of Myth falling apart, it's her only chance at somewhat being a JP Idol to any degree anymore. You could argue that after Hololive her own brand could hold up but considering how autistic asian grudges are, I wouldn't be surprised if she is forced to be Indie, but knowing Kiara she will likely stick to some borderline stuck small EN corpo and become their star through sheer autism while lifting the entire thing. Either that or she nopes out of vtubing straight into regular streaming.

>>50675075
So the rumors were true. Vesper in a menhera rage violated Gura in the brief period they were both in JP. He then stole her free factorio codes. Naruhodo, chumbud.

>>50742613
Kiara has done enough networking to go basically anywhere in the Vtubing sphere with no issues if something happens to Hololive. I'm sure she'll be fine.

>>50699219

>>50741946
TBF the entire "star of HoloEN" thing was a complete accident, Mori was originally the obvious front runner if you look at the debut merch, illustrations and even the screencaps from the cover site back then but Gura just has the charm to be the center of attention so she just became that. Also, early was completely unfit for the frontrunner role, she just had the design and I can swear to God EN feels like there's never anyone at the helm of the entire thing save for Kiara aggresively pushing and current Mori being more and more girly and energetic and perhaps Ame with her collabos. None of EN2 nor IRyS feel like fit for the front and Gura is just well, bratty. And not even the UOH type of interesting bratty.

>>50742721
This is the only truth here, every other rrat is garbage and ficticious.

>>50742844
>early Mori*
Fucking autocorrect.

>>50685430
Clearly not since she's playing all her fans, when will chumbuds realize Gura is a smart girl and her whole persona is 100% kayfabe? do you SERIOUSLY think she doesn't know how much 2+2 is?

>>50675002
She likely renegotiating her entire contract with COVER under threat of flat-out terminating herself. Not even a graduation. She might be a lazy and stupid shark, but she knows the amount of damage she would cause where she to force a termination and thus force COVER to rip her character off the Hololisting alas Rushia.

>>50675002
Can you imagine if she and Haachama are just chilling together and we are all just arguing for nothing?, Such plot twist.

>>50742964
And what do you think she's renegotiating it for? What the fuck would she even want? More money? I think Holo girls' contracts are already quite lucrative enough. More breaks? As if she doesn't get them now with no repercussions. More games to play? I don't think they can give more permissions to her and only her it's a whole company or no one kind of deal. More creative freedom? They are not going to budge on this one. They didn't with Coco years ago and they are even more corporate and sponsored now. I don't see a reason.

>>50743101
It would have to be fore more money/ projects that keep getting pushed back.

>>50743267
she ain't working on shit dude. "Projects" is a just a cope, she doesn't even do anything like direct these projects and just throws money at people like kanuru. Good chumbuds are the biggest retards in the universe.

>>50743402
She talks about not wanting to spend that much money. So wonder if cover is paying them for her. The only thing we know 100% that Kanuru did was her Gura TV and gura only did the voice. Gura did the song and the dance for it with Bea but besides that I don't think she did that much in Japan.

>>50742844
>Gura
>Charm
It's literally just her design, the "a" thing, and "Ride on Time" going viral. It was absolute lightning in a bottle.

>>50675002
So far the theories go like:
>She is getting railed
>She's pregnant
>She gave birth
>She's s actually dying from something
>She's going full menhera
>She's renegotiating her contract
>She wants out of Myth and Hololive
>She's getting replaced
>She's mad at us for X
>She can't keep getting away with X
>She's going to college
>She's doing more projects than Suisei and Sora combined and can't stream for that
>She's actually missing
>She wants to fleshtube but can't
>She wants out of the internet
>Some actual R E T A R D E D chumbud is stalking her, got caught or got bold and she's suing his ass.
>Related to previous, She's relocating
>She's just being herself
The most likely answer is that she is just having a depressive episode AGAIN. If you know, you know.
There's also the uncertain but horrific (to chumbuds) probability that she's already out of all of this and we don't know it. Yet.

>>50743734
>She is getting railed
>She's pregnant
>She gave birth
>She's s actually dying from something
>She's going full menhera
>She's renegotiating her contract
>She wants out of Myth and Hololive
>She's getting replaced
>She's mad at us for X
>She can't keep getting away with X
>She's going to college
>She's doing more projects than Suisei and Sora combined and can't stream for that
>She's actually missing
>She wants to fleshtube but can't
>She wants out of the internet
>Some actual R E T A R D E D chumbud is stalking her, got caught or got bold and she's suing his ass.
>Related to previous, She's relocating
>She's just being herself
It's all of the above

>>50743734
If by depressive episode, you mean she is using "mental health" as an excuse to malinger and be a worthless lazy cunt, then you are right. She's the apex zoomer and embodies all the flaws of her generation.

>>50743854
All involve me as well, by the way.

What's weird is that during the break, we got more reassurances from other members that gura was doing okay. Now, we neither get gura streams and reassurances. Like members are purposefully not acknowledging something.

>>50743972
not acknowledging what?

>>50743972
I don't think there is some sinister reason. I think that most of the members are tired of trying to reach out to her when she clearly doesn't care to talk to them. Kiara being the only exception due to her own.... unique qualities.

>>50743101
Gura might be involved with renegotiating a hololive contract but it might not be for herself. Gura was angry with management when Ina had that 3 month "health" break that somehow changed from a heart problem into a forgotten work phone. She refused to attend the Halloween collab and suddenly needed her own "health" break at around the same time that Ina stopped being radio silent and announced that she would return.

>>50744532
Ina? The same person whose parents hired a financial adviser after her first Holo paycheck? This Ina? Her parents have probably made her hire a good lawyer while the first contract negotiations took place to make the best deal possible. I don't think she needs Gura to fight for her rights.

>>50744532
You have way too much faith in Gura. She's just bummed she can't play whatever dumb meme game is FOTM on Know Your Meme and do react content like a twitch streamer.

>>50675002
why would she
hololive makes so much money on her merch and she doesn't even have to stream

if she "graduates" they have to retire her stuff

>>50744532
Gura never talked about a heart problem.
>>50744613
If you know anything about gura you would know her family would have done the same for her if not more.

>>50744658
Not if they replace Gura's voice. But if they did that she would go downhill very quickly.

>>50744532
>>50744613
ina was working her second job as an artist, the anime she designed the characters for was in full production and she couldn't keep up with both

>>50744682
Yes, and this is why "Gura is having a fight with management over her contract THREE years in Hololive" rrat doesn't make any goddamn sense.
>>50744730
Also this. Ina's breaks make sense since she is an adult woman with a job outside of Hololive with responsibilities and deadlines. Gura isn't like this at all.

>>50744730
well actually being an artist is her main passion/job, hololive is second

>>50744799
See with gura if she had a lawyer to look at her contract to get a better one (legal by the way if gura did not know) then I can see why she is not streaming because as of right now gura would not be under contract if it was not renewed and she would be trying to get a better one so why do work for a company if you are not under contract because then they can end up not paying you almost nothing and get away with it.

>>50744890
Three years in. They renew contracts every year. She would have a lawyer look at her contract in the summer of 2021, not 2023. Maybe 2022 if she wasn't sure about her position after just a year. Right now doesn't make sense.

>>50745022
But what if she was one of the people that did not have a lawyer look at it at all got bent over in the contract and now is trying to get out of it and get a better one?

>>50699219
Finally. Someone said it. The most valuable people in the company are the ones who network. Which means that other than being a mascot, Gura is useless. It would suck if she quit, but Cover would get over it. Her fans are useless too, since they don’t watch other vtubers.
Therefore, Gura is both valuable enough as a mascot and useless enough as a streamer that they’re fine with her being gone. They just need to reinforce the propaganda that anyone who complains about her not streaming is a schizo to keep people quiet. Reddit revolts and the like can fade away from memory.

>>50745098
She is currently getting paid several times the median salary to work less than 10 hours a month. What possible "better" contract could she get? It's not like they need her permission to sell Gura merch. Clearly her lack of streams hasn't hurt sales.

>>50745137
Well something is going on causing the lack of streams and I don't think its her working on projects because if you remember she pulled that all last year. She told us we would see the hard work she put into her projects at the end of 2022 and now here we are almost halfway though 2023 and she has nothing to show for it.

>>50745251
I forgot the add that when it come time to show off her projects she was working on chat was asking her over and over and then she just straight up started ghosting and then took a health break and now when a few people in chat asked her about it me included now she is nowhere to be seen. I really think she has convinced her self if she stays gone for a long time the problem will go away and she can come back and not say anything and pretend nothing ever happened.

>>50745251
I think she just isn't into it, but has golden hand cuffs. I can't blame her. I don't think she hates her fans as much as some people here say she does, but I don't get the feeling she really appreciates them much either.

>>50699219
shorten it or i'm not reading your reply to me

>>50745422
> has golden hand cuffs
They can't force her to stay if she wants out. That's against the law and as a company that relies on good will of Vtuber fans they don't want that over their heads. If you mean that they force her to stay with the promise of financial stability she should be fine to retire even now with enough money to last her into old age if she makes smart choices and doesn't just spend her wealth on stupid shit like rappers or certain celebrities do. I don't get that vibe from her.

>>50745961
No, you are right. I'm not using "golden handcuffs" completely correctly, but it's the closest phrase I can come up with. I more meant that she has such a lucrative position that requires so little work, it would feel silly to give it up. Sure, she could leave and be financially secure, or she could go on doing 2 or 3 streams a month and making absolute bank. Maybe I'm thinking too much from my own perspective, but I know it would be hard to quit that gig for me even if I were miserable.

>>50745102
your fat whore can't rap (gets mogged real hard by AI), can't be an entertainer (the only thing funny about her is when she babbles about Shrek because she sounds like a clown), is not likable (the nips like her because they don't know any better), is not hardworking (I just watched a streamer who did a 30 hour stream), has no value left in this company (gotta do Raid Shadow Legends sponsored streams), her career is dead in the water (her music lost to fucking Kiara's), never owned any haters (Tempiss deadlier than her career), has a D-tier roommate (she's popular among e-celebs for they feel comfortable when they see Karen's ugly face)

and most importantly, not just hololive that would become a better place, the world would be a better place if Mori's gone for good

>>50746064
>responds to a post that doesn't mention Mori
>seethes like a motherfucker about the pink woman
How does she keep getting away with it?

>>50746056
I mean if we are talking personal perspective in her position I would be eaten by guilt and forced to stream at least a few times a week by that alone. Even miserable and unmotivated. And I don't see Gura as someone completely devoid of empathy. That's why speculating gets that wild about what's going on because looking at the situation no explanation makes perfect sense and there is always something logical that contradicts it.

>>50746421
That's fair too, and I share your perspective. I would do something to throw a bone to fans, at least communicate more and do some lame MC streams or something. But I don't want to speculate completely. There's something going on and I am terribly curious about what it is, but I doubt we'll ever even know half of what it is. Also, it would probably be very disappointing to the schizos here. It's likely a "serious" issue, but a mundane one.

>>50746651
I find it strange that there is no official explanation. Wild speculations hurt the fanbase, hurt the brand and the streamer as well. Even if they have to lie and just release something a completely lame excuse at least people would have a point of reference and something to point schizos at when they get rowdy. Like when Gura was on break in the end of December-January-the start of February speculations were exclusive to antis and were mostly laughed at. It also came with the advantage of no infighting between membershrimps. Official explanation cut chumbud speculations out of the equation and unites them against shitposting antis even if the explanation is not good or even true. I honestly can't imagine what are Cover or Gura thinking handling the situation like they do.

Honestly gura fucking disgusts me. She's pretty much spitting in the face of all the gen 1 members. Instant popularity without having to do any hard work and still whines like her job is so difficult and never puts in any effort to stream. Actually makes me angry.

>>50675035
She's probably one of those SEVERELY menhera types that unironically WANTS to be a 2view with a really small close knit fanbase.
but she's too cute, so she explodes in popularity every time she incarnates

>>50675035
She is literally retiring after saving up for a lifetime

>>50746903
I'm willing to blame Cover for that more than Gura. I really don't think they care much for the EN branch. Vtubing in the west was a bubble that already popped and they aren't willing to spend much resources in this area. Sure, Gura has the most subs, but she isn't even close to the backbone of their main operation. It's still very weird though. They could do very simple things to avoid insane theories and keep fans calm. I won't pretend to know how they operate.

>>50747566
Their statement on it is whatever Gura's is, when she officially went on break, they made a statement. She's officially come back, evidently in a limited capacity, but there's nothing for them to actually comment on.

>>50746990
Japan needs a third nuke, whats wrong with them that they don't like Aki?? and fuck Hachama for not showing up on time, I've become her anti for this. Also Matsuri is a menhera bitch and Mel is a whore.

>>50746990
The popularity they got is only due to Covid buff.

>>50747908
yes, but there's a notable difference in effort to use said popularity
>Ame doing a charity stream, building a studio for other Holos to use
>Ina pushing further to the art community with things like her pixiv deals or virtual gallery
>Kiara pushing Holo appearances into more conventions, reaching out to other companies, supporting every single Holo project
>Mori doing a ton of music networking, getting her UMG contacts to do shit for other Holos (ex. Bae getting a Teddyloid remix out of nowhere), doing ton of events and TV showings

meanwhile Gura's biggest contribution to Hololive's reputation is mostly just passively existing, she got the golden talent and just buried that shit

>>50744730
>>50744831
>>50744799

Ina-chan's anime was cute. I like the total doyagao smiles in the OP.

>>50746064
you sound pretty owned, my dude

Just wanted to contribute to the doomposting and point out that for some reason the HoloEN rewind has had episodes centered aroubd Kiara, Ame, Calli and then weirdly two Inas in a row instead of Ina then Gura.
I remember there were some events that Sana was not a part of in the months before her graduation announcement.

>charity stream
for fucking pitbulls, and do cuckmates really? it's called "charity" for a reason you know

>building a studio for other Holos to use
nobody, not even Ame, uses it. also nobody asked for

>Ina pushing further to the art community with things like her pixiv deals or virtual gallery
the same goes for Gura as an idol, an entertainer, a singer and a voice actor

>Kiara pushing Holo appearances into more conventions, reaching out to other companies, supporting every single Holo project
still the same obnoxious bitch and the same snake that doxxed Subaru and some other holos

>Mori doing a ton of music networking, getting her UMG contacts to do shit for other Holos (ex. Bae getting a Teddyloid remix out of nowhere), doing ton of events and TV showings
stopped reading here, your opinion is worth less than dirt, but good luck with your 3K ccv whore i guess

>>50749057
I don't think the moment where Ame and Gura stole the show by showing each other middle fingers is really a Kiara episode.

>>50736454
go back to red.dit cuck

>>50749154
>the episode where they censored out the only two other people in the video in the thumbnail was actually about them
That's real strong copium youre huffing right there

>>50749248
You're watching videos, right? Not thumbnails?

>>50749688
Yes, you should watch the videoS. It's clear what they were trying to do. I can't explain context clues to someone who blatantly ignores a lot of correlated information just to make an interpretation work so they satisfies their cognitive dissonance.

>>50744658
>if she "graduates" they have to retire her stuff
Lol, no they don't. We've gotten Sana merch as late as March of this year. Cover owns the IP, so they can continue to use it for as long as they want.

>>50742844
>>50743708
Let's not pretend that one of the factors wasn't who she had been. The closest equivalent I can think of sheer scale of prior known presence and fanbase is Noel who just like Gura got an initial boost over her genmates (Noel was #1 largest in Gen3 for months after their debuts). Unlike Gura though, Noel didn't have her 'lightning in a bottle' moment to fully capitalize on her moment and drifted down from being one of the figureheads of Hololive to just being part of the middle lane.

>>50678472
>You're like a bunch of chittering fucking schoolgirls
hot

>>50745102
>Her fans are useless too, since they don’t watch other vtubers.
That used to be true but Gura is bleeding those particular fans. The ones dropping Gura this past year are the fans who weren't all that into Vtubing as a whole but rather just in it for her and her alone.

>>50717176
https://streamable.com/lpvbje

>>50754864
Teamates get cucked by this

>>50675002
she left a long time ago

>>50748897
Frothing, even.

>>50675075
This.

>>50749100
>for fucking pitbulls, and do cuckmates really? it's called "charity" for a reason you know
Wtf I love Ame now.
Maybe I was wrong about Ame being over the Tempus thing.

>>50759722
Tempus + Ina and Gura absence did that. Gura is the shogun of /vt/ and without her people simply lose interest in vtubers, especially now that she's neglecting her fans and making them feel bad, they won't even move on to another girl, they'll just find a different hobby. I'd never want to fall for the same scam twice.

>>50744649
>You have way too much faith in Gura.
Ina gets the most revealing outfit in hololive, Korean parents are disappointed with her coomerbait design, management promises talks for a redesign that never go anywhere, childhood friend Sana gets into so many fights with management that her contract isn't renewed, and Ina reaches a point where she is thinking of graduation. If her friend had gotten to that point I believe that Gura would try to encourage management to reach some type of settlement.

>>50749100
> the same goes for Gura as an idol, an entertainer, a singer and a voice actor
Gura barely releases any projects at all. Yes, I know management has it out for her, it doesn’t matter. The difference between her non-streaming output and the others’ is so wide that isn’t a fucking excuse. Gura is a mascot, and if Gura died and they had a puppeteer move her stuffed corpse around no one would see the difference. The only people who would care don’t watch any other vtubers, so their opinion is completely worthless too.

>>50746404
I finally went to bed after posting that, so I didn’t see the reply until now (I’ve started watching JP again…still not sure if the damage to my sleep schedule is worth it desu but it’s fun).
My opinion on Mori lately has been “she’s still cringe and I’ll never listen or watch anything with her in it but at least she vaguely gives a fuck.” The faintest praise one can possibly give. As long as she stays the fuck away from the people I actually watch I don’t mind her. How that anon thought me shitting on her means I’m a deadbrap eludes me.
Sure, I think she’s the second-least deserving of hate in Myth after Kiara, but that’s because I don’t watch any of their streams. That means all I care about is their ability to form connections and network, and Mori is the second-best in the gen at that. But it also means my opinion regarding their actual content doesn’t mean shit, so it definitely shouldn’t be confused for me actually liking her.

>>50762569 (me)
> How that anon thought me shitting on her means I’m a deadbrap eludes me.
I meant to say “How that anon thought me shitting on Gura means I’m a deadbrap eludes me.”

>>50749100
Cuckbuds. It's okay to be angry, but don't take your depressive state out on other HoloEN members.

>>50749100
>Kiara doxxed subaru

Why are chumbuds such shitty liars.

>>50759722
Even setting aside the obvious peak and going with the slightly lower plateau around 3rd Fes last year, HoloEN has lost close to 33% of its audience.

>>50763429
then explain this KFPhaggot (spoiler: nobody could)
>>/jp/thread/S29009967#p29013569

>>50763789
>explain this
>person in post explains that it was weeks in between
>this is somehow Kiara's fault and not the schizo

Naw you're crazy and you're abstaining from blaming the actual crazy JP schizo which says a lot about you.

>>50763789
That isn't helping your case anon, you're siding like the schizo discussed in that link

>>50686334
why the fuck even stalk her. you niggers think her pussy is made of heroin or some shit

>>50764017
Because it took some time before Kiara was able to sell the info she gathered? fucking retarded KFPnigger white knighting for an escort that got blacklisted (and for good reason), please drown yourself you delusional faggot

>>50763789
Why would you direct someone to a post that disagrees with you as proof, you're either the biggest retard ever or this is some high level falseflagging.

>>50764392
Shut up SEA. Literally nobody believes you inane bullshit. I don't know why Kiara triggers your mental illness so much but maybe you should consider killing yourself.

>>50762634
you praised networking and Mori is most active in that regard (you seem to put Kiara over her, but that's mostly internal connections where she shines, she had issues with asking GiGA to work on an original for her, for example)
for some people even the faintest amount of praise towards Mori (or even the mere suggestion she shouldn't be terminated/killed) is enough to paint you as a deadbeat

>>50764499
but he didn't know that
>Kiara lied and tried to hide the reason she got fired from her old company https://archive.ph /EO4t8 #10375
>Kiara is an evil bitch >>/vt/thread/47748889#p47752457
>Kiara had a way to communicate with the chinks
>Kiara tried to take IRL photos of the girls
right?

>>50748355
i dropped it after a few eps
it was so bad but the chars were cute

>>50765118
I'm sorry for whatever disease it is that you have.
I hope you find the help you need.

>>50675002
Good, Clearly she cannot handle the pressure of being first. Maybe post Gura we can purge the fools that follow her.

penis

>>50775273
Guras Peginis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qeTpVvEszg

>>50675075
Rent free

>>50765118
>Girls wanting to take pictures with each other
Holy Father, say it ain't so. What a disgusting bitch she must be
t. schizo

>>50776588
Id let her take a picture of me.

>>50776801
I would let her dress me up like a doll, a plaything for her to abuse and take indecent photos of

>>50777227
I would let her beat the shit out of me. That's how much I love her.

>>50777577
I love her so much that I would let her ghost the shit out of me. Why do you think she is not streaming? ToT

>>50675035
>makes millions
kek

>>50701738
copium. she's def going corpo again

>>50675075
>Leaving because of Males
>Goes back to her PL and starts stream in a full disc call with males and females
Like she never left

Would make sense, they whored Sana and Pikamee out until after the closest major show/event/merch sale
Also feel like they are far more invested in Mori, Kiara, and IRyS now and just see Gura as some derelict construction site they were going to build something amazing out of, but now just rots there

>>50675002
yes

>>50784430
Proof?

>>50784824
3 year anniversary, contracts are yearly, she doesn't stream, she doesn't love you anymore

>>50785303
contract proof?

>>50785447
cope

>>50675002
It would be for the best. She can redebut with vshojo 3 days later and start enjoying streaming again. Also, I really want to see what her leaving Holo would do to the org. Will all talents become 2 views? Maybe.

>>50675002
Chumbuds are the biggest bitches in any fandom

>>50787171
come on man, she's only been "sick" for 6 months, that's totally normal right

>>50787334
Bitching and whining 24/7 doesn't help the fans now does it?

>>50677998
what the fuck does Tempus have to do with Outlast?

>>50787407
you're just mad because you're oshi doesn't pull as hard

>>50768888
They'll just go to JP instead. Or small corpo. They'll just find someone as malleable to their demands.

>>50785730
You're overestimating the importance of Gura to the company. Gura has the most subs but she's outdone in basically every other metric by some JP or another, and all the other girls in EN have their own fanbases which may not be as large as Gura's but are easily on par with all but the top few nijis

>>50788144
it's not only that she's the first, it's that no one is even close

also don't hit the copium so hard like this guy >>50788627

>2020 anon would be weeping into their pillow over even the thought of Gura leaving
>2023 anon is helping her pack her shit

>>50788688
nigga she didn't even debut for another 3 months

>>50788669
I don't even like numberfagging but if you think Hololive would collapse over Gura leaving you don't understand how enormous the viewership is. They obviously wouldn't want her gone but she's not even carrying her branch let alone the entire company. You're talking as if it was Nijisanji ID and it was Hana Macchia leaving.

>>50788865
>Hana Macchia
now i know you're trolling

>>50788950
No, you're just not understanding the incredibly simple analogy I made. Even fucking Anya would be considered succesful as an indie and there's no universe in which anyone in Myth drops to her level

>>50789145
>incredibly simple analogy I made
>Hana Macchia
whomegalul

>>50789300
Either you're the one trolling or you're genuinely a brainlet. I'm not explaining it to you

>>50788865
nobody said she's carrying an entire company you fucker. honestly, Gura leaving would be interesting because the EN girls won't have anyone throwing bones at them anymore, and by then Orcschizo will become the #1 EN , imagine the endless supply of shitposting

>>50789327
sorry buddy but your oshi is literally a who

>>50788865
imagine thinking people know some obscure nijisanji person in a holofag thread.

>>50789686
>anon thinks Gura leaving would be a disaster for hololive
>I tell him he's underestimating how big Hololive is and that Gura isn't actually drawing any outsized amount of money or viewers relative to the total audience
>anon's reasoning would be valid if we were talking about Nijisanji ID and Hana Macchia
>from this we can infer that Nijisanji ID has a much more tenous viewership and was, in fact, getting carried by a single person
And yes, I would expect that if you lurked for a little bit before posting you would know a few chuubas who aren't Holos even if you don't watch them

>>50789974
>p-please watch other v-
no

>>50789974
>niji
OMEGAKEK

>>50789974
>Nijisanji ID

>>50742376
>truth, reality, facts
Got sources that you are basing off of?

>>50792483
They're self-evident, there's no need to explain. Trannies and Tempus are the reason Gura is so burnt out. They need to be erased.

>>50680281
money only goes so far. Diminishing returns

>>50699219
All those words just to say you hate EN branch based on very confounding numbers

>>50792574
>They're self-evident, there's no need to explain. Trannies and Tempus are the reason Gura is so burnt out. They need to be erased.
Sounds like the old "correlation is not causation"

>>50686350
Money isn't everything. Diminishing returns once you get your first few millions. If the stalking really is as bad as people say, i'd quit too

>>50689884
peak schizo fanfic

>>50710805
Don't you think it's simply more likely that she hates her job? I'm not saying you're wrong, it just seems unlikely

>>50714007
retire. She never has to work again if she manages her wealth properly

>>50746990
I understand anon, sometimes I feel the same way but you have to let go. Being angry won't help you. Just don't support her

>>50749100
chumbud: accept the fact that your oshi is trash

>>50792574
you need help chumbud. Your oshi doesn't love you

>For every nice comment supporting Gura, there are 10 comments attacking her
Gura really is the Jesus of vtubing. Even if you all hate her for no reason, she still loves you.

>>50794261
No there is a big deference. Gura has not rose from the dead yet. She will let us know when she is back for real I'm sure.

>>50677048
Gura literally doesn't care about other EN members. During her Baldi and Choo Choo Charlie stream she made multiple comments about not being able to remember what other members sounded like, or mentioning she hasn't talked to them in awhile. She plays with her irl friend group and ignores everything else.

>>50796301
and she did the right thing, Myth minus Gura and Ina can burn in hell for all i care

>>50675002
Yeah, she will marry me.

>>50788669
Gura is entirely insignificant to Cover's success. Why do people keep acting like they can't afford to lose her? Gura is the equivalent of when a shitty e-sports company hires a completely unrelated e-celeb to do be a "content creator" for their org. Cover does not care about HoloEN. Gura is a nobody.

>>50675002
No.

>>50792574
Cuckbuds will do everything they can defend their ghost bitch oshi instead facing the truths of her personality and faults.

>>50800928
Everyone has faults. Just like you do about your Cuck fantasies. I have my faults like my ghosting fetish.

>>50759722
Tempiss debuffing so hard that also lowered both niji and Holo ID number

>>50795871
She already gave you the answer. She'll stream when she can, there's no "back" idiot.

>>50802459
She needs to clarify what she meant by that.

>>50675002
Hopefully, the seethe on here will be delicious.

>>50804931
being vague and meaningless wasn't a mistake.

>>50805904
Chumbuds get what was coming for them