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Snuffy with an iphone facial tracing app and a western-rigged avy is blowing the doors off of anything in the east tech wise. How come Holo/Nijisanji vtubers look so much worse?

>> No.5087759

I like mouse's 3D better, also there is already a snuffy tech shitposting thread >>5077993

>> No.5087772

>Cover barely tries and still has some of the top SC earners on youtube (Coco, Rushia) and also the most watched channels (Peko)

>> No.5087780

what? hololive isn't cutting edge technology with their 2016 tracking? how

>> No.5087807 [DELETED] 

>>5087665
This is the text book definition of rent free.

>> No.5088171
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5088171

Cover, a "tech" company.

>> No.5088233

I don't get why you keep shilling this chuuba. She must be really boring because I've never seen anyone talk about her content, only her avatar.

>> No.5088286

>>5088233
she talks about sex stuff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>> No.5088498

>>5087772
>still has
>Coco

>> No.5088593

>>5088233
From what I've seen all she's doing is just watching vids and commenting. Is that supposed to be entertaining?

>> No.5088658

>>5088593
You're so close to figuring something out.

>> No.5088719

>>5088498
July 1st, dummy.

>> No.5088847

You have to hand it to her, she's fleecing simp retards for all they're worth. As an indie she's doing iron man numbers.

>> No.5089855

>>5088233
Snuffy is loosely associated with VShojo, so their simps talk about her.

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>>5088233
Yeah, that's exactly it. The model is great, the streamer herself is astoundingly boring. She is a pothead,furry/degenerate, tik-tok watching zoomer. This is her entire personality. You can pull up any, and I mean any, stream that she has ever done and you will see what I mean. She plays "retro"games, opens tcg card packs, and watches tik-tok videos high. Her most diverse content is her collabs which varies in terms of quality. This is it, nothing else to her.

>> No.5092157

>>5087665
I want to dump a load into her fat ass

>> No.5092210

>>5087665
In an odd inversion to how much Jap hardware gets praised, Jap software is legendarily bad. Like 'we keep our engineers chained to the basement on a diet of cup noodles' bad.

>> No.5092312

>>5088233
>>5090935
vniggers btfo

>> No.5092455

>>5087665
It's kind of funny, Pekora might as well have a static jpg for a mouth for how little it moves during her streams.

>> No.5092511

>>5087665
iirc both Hololive and Nijisanji use iPhones for face tracking

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>>5087665
fucking w*stoids continue to be smartass faggots who think they understand everything, no you don't. there's a reason why japanese vtubers don't stream with rigs like this, so that they can avoid complete abominations like pic related. as you can see the better your rig gets the more that thin line between virtual and reality starts to blur and you end up with a horrible abortion born from the pairing of the two. nips come to watch anime girls not a horrifying pixar rejects. if you like it so much you can keep watching her but don't come here to brag about this uncanny valley shit you self-mportant mutts
>inb4 YWNBJ
i will be japanese and there's nothing you can do to stop me, stay mad

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5092582

Man it's fun watching /vt/ make excuses for Hololive's piss-poor software

>> No.5092637

>>5092552
cope and remember YWNBJ

>> No.5092833

>shilling for the streamer equivalent of wet cardboard

>> No.5092914 [DELETED] 

>>5092552
Soi face roru roru

>> No.5092950
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5092950

>one snuffy thread
>seethes
do holoniggers really?

>> No.5093076

>>5092950
no amount of tech will change the fact that your oshi sucks, deal with it

>> No.5093094

>>5092950
>OP shitting on niji & holo
>surprised at the seethe

>> No.5093095
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5093095

chu~

>> No.5093226

she didn't make either rigs so why are you sucking her virtual cock

>> No.5093361

holoniggers are cringe

>> No.5093421

this trashpanda has to have the most fuckable design of any vtuber for me, up there with the likes of Mel

>> No.5093545

>>5088171
in b4 "uncanny valley" holoshart cope.
nevermind, there it is >>5092552

>> No.5093552

>>5087665
Because she's no real competition to them in the one department that actually matters: being entertaining.

>> No.5093563

>>5093545
>>5093552
cope arguments

>> No.5093611
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>>5092552

>> No.5093620

>>5093545
okay that actually looks good. i didn't know she had a live2d. why isn't she using that one instead of the abomination?

>> No.5093619

>>5093563
It's not an argument, it's a matter of fact that she's no threat to Niji or Cover.

>> No.5093636

>>5088171
>getting mogged by her downgrade live2D
Now that's just embarrassing.

>> No.5093682

>>5092552
YWNBJ

>> No.5093785

I get it if holo doesn't want that ultra-accurate mouth tracking her 3D has, but why can't they at least do something on the level of >>5088171 ?

>> No.5093910

>>5093785
they just dont care. their stars print money regardless of what their tracking looks like. Korone and Pekora have garbage tracking but are huge.

>> No.5093955

>>5088171
Let's be honest here, the trash panda or whatever that's supposed to be seems to have better rigging here. However, I've tried, emphasis on TRIED watching her content. And it is completely, utterly unwatchable. I mean what's the point in watching really nicely animated garbage? I'm not into modern art. Also I think the only difference between every vshojo vtuber out there is their model. Seen one, seen them all. Copy paste character with a different avatar. SEX SEX SEX. GAMER MEME SEX SEX. No soul. I might be wrong. But it would be really hard to prove this to me as their content is unbearable. Sorry. High quality animated shit is still shit.

>> No.5093973

>>5093910
Korone is actually funny and creative
Snuffy is an e-whore who's entire personality is centered around "my pussy hehe i like sex"

>> No.5093982

>>5093785
the simple answer is they don't use all the face shape data from the iphone camera
snuffy explicitly has all face tracking data used in her model and pays a premium for it
cover cheaps out on their software

>> No.5094098

>>5093973
YWNBJ

>> No.5094140

>>5094098
Amy Schumer

>> No.5096481

>>5090935
Based

>> No.5096737

>>5087665
if only her design weren't weird and she had talent.........

>> No.5096885

>>5090935
this is a bit off topic is the name of this polish ball meme

>> No.5097507

>>5096885
polandball

>> No.5098550

>>5093973
Stop watching clips and try a stream you goddamn faggot

>> No.5098849

>>5098550
seethe

>> No.5099010

her laugh is infectious

>> No.5099156
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>>5098550
Nigga, do YOU watch the streams? I do and they are exactly what everyone says they are. Do you ever wonder why the only thing people clip from her is when she talks about cock? It's because that is the ONLY thing that is interesting about her streams. Her streams are her either high and watching tik-toks or her opening cards for card games she doesn't know how to play. The only ancillary thing that she does is play videogames from before 2010 which is over a decade ago anon.
ANON YOU DON'T WATCH THE STREAMS SO STOP BEING A SUCH A FAGGOT

>> No.5099184

>>5098849
Hating holoniggers are the ones seething about anything non holo for existing, stop seething first and ill gladly fuck off

>> No.5099227

>>5099156
Ive watched multiple streams where she didnt say a single sexual thing, fuck off

>> No.5099286

>>5096885
voltorb

>> No.5099352

>>5099227
You don't watch the streams anon just stfu already

>> No.5100028

>>5099352
I do, and you can talk as much shit as you like

>> No.5102021

>>5093955
>I might be wrong.
You're not. Dubs verify. Checked.

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>>5093955
The difference is that she is not an actor and does not pretend to be. She's just some girl geeking out with what she likes and having a fun time. Some of us like that honestly rather than jap shiIling streams and mobile game promotions. I thought her play through of Resident Evil Village was pretty good, where as I tried to watch Botan's and she came across as disinterested at times.

>> No.5103027

>>5093955
based qualitycontentenjoyer

>> No.5103166

>>5087665
Snuffy with iphone face tracking, but where's snuffy with iphone pussy tracking?

>> No.5103198

>>5102696
>EOP can't into nip
>says nip chuubas are boring because it's easier than doing language reps
Have you heard of The Fox and the Grapes?

>> No.5103246

>>5103166
her patreon

>> No.5103303

>>5090935
>watches tik-tok videos instead of playing the game
>does IRL stuff like opening TCG card packs
>spends half of stream talking about shit
>other parts are actually playing the game
She's well on her way to either being an equivalent to asmongold or vargskelethor. All she'd need to do to match asmongold levels is if she were playing an MMO for a majority of her streams.

>> No.5103315

>>5103198
>language
>assumption the post

>> No.5103368

>>5088171
The duck is still more adorable.

>> No.5103447

>>5102696
Botan's not very emotional so you're probably looking at the wrong Chuuba there. Botan has fans because of her random noises and that she's good at shooters. Village was too easy for her, basically, and she wasn't scared by anything except the pipebomb she accidentally threw at herself.

>> No.5103661

>>5103303

>vargskelethor

For that, she'll have to stop everything she's doing to spam "IN 1972, A CRACK COMMANDO UNIT WAS SENT TO PRISON BY A MILITARY COURT FOR A CRIME THEY DIDN'T COMMIT"

>> No.5103741

The fact that this thread quickly derailed into comparing personalities tells you what you need to know about how much the implementation actually matters anon

>> No.5103910

>>5102696

facts, holoniggroni fags will get mad trying to defend against this lol

>> No.5103943

>>5103447

she's legitimately boring, idk why people watch her aside from the fact that she has a really nice model

>> No.5104169

>>5103741
the only thing that shows is that insecure holoniggers will immediately resort to coping tactics when faced with uncomfortable truths.

>> No.5104267

>>5103303
This is the goal of western streamers, it's what they do. It's how you get big. No one gives a fuck about this "uwu pwease giba me pepaloni" in the western market, they want "relatable" and "normal" streamers to fill their everyday monotony. That's why all the top streamers all have fairly similar content with their personality and reaction to it being what sets them apart. I won't deny it's not what /vt/ likes whatsoever, but it's the most prevalent and most popular form of content outside of esports. Look how hard some of these big streamers mog vtubers in terms of both earning and viewership.

>> No.5104278

>>5104169
its almost like you need a good personality to be enjoyable to watch

who knew?

>> No.5104312

>>5087665
I want nothing more in life than to eat her ass

>> No.5104601

>>5104312
she sounds like she gives a good blowie

>> No.5104673

>>5104278
braindead holosharts like you dont care about personality. the only thing they care about is the name "hololive". they are corporate bootlickers with a really bad case of brand loyalty. to them, "enjoyable" simply means "being part of hololive".

>> No.5104726

>>5104601
>>5102696
I want her to give me a handjob while I play vidya and while she is streaming.

>> No.5104899

>>5093955
Honestly this, out of all of Vshojo, Nyanners will sometimes veer into actually funny content. but the rest just seem to be
>sex sex sex
>gamer meme lololol

Someone please enlighten me about whats interesting about them, maybe ive only caught them at bad times.

>> No.5104929

>>5104673
i sense projection

>> No.5104969

>>5104899
idk i think melody is the least offensive of them all

maybe thats because she gets her hoe out on chaturbate

>> No.5105201

>>5104899
melody is unironically the most wholesome of the group and get down to business . It's when she's on chaturbate she'll go whole hog.

>> No.5105619

>>5096737
she might not have a talent for streaming but by god if she doesn't have a talent for baby-making

>> No.5107507

>>5092582
>>5092637
>>5092950
>>5093545
>>5098550
>>5103910
>>5104169
>>5104673
Keep seething, no amount of good rigging will change the fact that your literal who vtuber is boring, unfunny, cringe and will forever be irrelevant if it wasn't for you retards creating threads about the only thing that actually attracts people to this mediocre vtuber :)

>> No.5107663

>>5088233
You aren’t wrong people only talk about her model or hyping her up for having a normal voice. I have no idea why Vtuber fans act like they’re never heard a woman speak before.

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>>5107507

>> No.5108966

>>5107507
>literall who
>thousands of viewers
>thousands of subs a month
>thousands in bits per month
>makes more than most holos and gets to keep their money
>free to do whatever they want whenevr they want

Being a literal who is looking really nice.

>> No.5109916

Cartoons look better than Anime, why Japanese people are not making them looking like Cartoons?

>> No.5110035

>>5108966
>>literall who
>>thousands of viewers
>>thousands of subs a month
>>thousands in bits per month
>>makes more than most holos and gets to keep their money
this is just not true, at all
>free to do whatever they want whenevr they want
freedom to SEX and to be as uncreative as possible, truly the bastion of freedom esl-chama, you've convinced me to turn off my brain and enjoy these chuubas

>> No.5110125
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5110125

Why cant we just live together in harmony with our oshi's?

>> No.5110142

>>5105619
I want to breed her to have many children and make her children watch me fuck her every day till they come of age where they set out on their own having the image of me fucking snuffy deeply ingrained into their mind of which not even death will save them the mercy of purging it out of their head.

>> No.5110211

>>5110125
the people who do aren't vocal

>> No.5110318

>>5088171
>more movement = better
Looks like shit. The way everything bounces excessively reminds me of bad flash animation.
>>5093545
>muh uncanny valley cope
Doesn't apply here, but it IS uncanny, and you retards forget that uncanny is an actual word and doesn't just refer to the uncanny valley.

>> No.5110572

>>5103198
Imagine spending hundreds of hours learning a one of the moat needlessly complex, unintuitive language that is basically useless on the global stage just to watch an average woman play videogames.

Now imagine thinking that somehow makes you superior to someone else.

>> No.5111886

>>5110572
>needlessly complex, unintuitive language that is basically useless on the global stage
What a cope, holy shit

>> No.5112418

>>5110318
So you're saying the image on the right looks better?

>> No.5112533

>>5102696
OMG, what is all that gunk in her nails?

Disgusting.

>> No.5112538

>>5110572
medical-grade copium

>> No.5112588

>>5110035
What part isn't true? She's got thousands of viewers, she's got thousands of subs. She makes thousands in bits per month. She's pulling at least 10k a month just from subs alone before adding bits and cash donos (which is in the thousands as well), and 100% of that money goes to her. Not every Holo member is Pekora or Rushia.

>> No.5112619

>>5088171
I guess if you grew up with Dreamworks films left looks good to you.

>> No.5112680

>>5112588
>hes still trying to numberfag
sit down vshitter, unless you want the lazy shark to mog your oshis again

>> No.5112829

>>5112619
is that supposed to be an insult? Not even shit-tier anime have that terrible mouth animation on the level of most holos

>> No.5112880

>>5093955
The Silvervale basket tour of Japan with Rob was comfy, though.

>> No.5112885

>>5112680
I don't even watch any of them, but you can't really deny facts. If that's a literal who I'd love to take up streaming and be one.

>> No.5112960

>>5112885
heres a fact you can't, you're a faggot

>> No.5113068

>>5112960
its wild how upset people get when they realize people don't like are successful. stay seething over some chick that makes tens of thousands making pussy jokes and opening pokemon cards

>> No.5113083

>calling snuffy a literal who
thats some weapons grade copium, and i say that as someone who’s oshi is a holomem and gives no shit about other vtubers generally

>> No.5113211

>>5113068
What is there to seethe about, my oshi puts in even less effort into streaming yet she mogs on yours every day
not my fault nobody likes your SEX chuuba, faggot

>> No.5113242

>>5112829
No. Stop feeling persecuted.

>> No.5113306

>>5113242
vcűcks can't stop feeling persecuted, they go into the one website that doesn't like them and attentionwhore

>> No.5113363

>>5113211
Your oshi also has the backing of a multi-million dollar company with access to some of the best artists in the industry, as well as an infinite amount of advertisement and industry pull. Snuffy is a random girl who bought a cheap 3D model and snowballed on her own. If you can't se the difference then just keep drinking the koolaid brother.

>> No.5113430

Snuffy is a furry. Furries are always trouble, no exceptions. I was with her until this furry vr stuff tonight. No thank you.

>> No.5113489

>>5113211
Your oshi can also do something that Snuffy never will
be forced to graduate

>> No.5113583

>>5113363
you're the one trying to numberfag nigger, should have kept your hands off the keyboard if you didn't want to catch shit
>>5113489
cope

>> No.5114081

Does anyone have the clip of that time she tried to get into her helicopter in GTA, a guy stole it from her and then he and the helicopter immediately got hit by a train?

>> No.5114193

>>5092582
Or maybe we don’t care about the model and watch for the actual content of the vid

>> No.5114376

>>5103943
Cuz she’s amazing at fps games and her laugh is the best. Plus when she collabs she trolls the other girls a lot making it very funny

>> No.5114440

>>5113430
Based! Fuck all furfaggots

>> No.5114534

>>5092552
Jajaj todo naco miado puton

>> No.5115180

>>5110125
Cover cocksuckers threw the first stone my way and I'm not dumb enough to wait for them to throw another at me by doing nothing.

>> No.5116567

>>5104899
>>5112880
Honestly, despite the big tiddy model and a boob/sex joke now and then, Silver's remarkable tame on her own. Her streams in general are just comfy with cozy games. And lots of modded skyrim.

Collab streams do see to make her more horny tho, undeniable.

>> No.5116703
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While I really like Snuffy's model rigging (done by ArtGun for a number of the girls), I do understand where SOME of the uncanny complaints come from. I can't put it into words properly, but it feels like her mouth gets TOO realistic at points, pulling off movements you don't expect from anime character. It's slightly weird in the same way rotoscoped anime looks weird. Again, not all the time, just some. It's why I think her laugh can come out odd with it (full open mouth like your trying to swallow a burger)

Honestly, I'd like if there was a way for her face tracking to tell she's making an expression and then her model automatically playing a textured image of the "anime'd" expression she's trying. Like a picture of this kind of smile when her mouth forms a similar smiling expression?

I dunno, I think I'm rambling.

>> No.5117319

This thread again.

Coco's v2 is kinda untouchable.

Ain't nothin wrong with Snuffy she looks cute but actually watch other vtubers.
Hidden.

>> No.5117472

>>5087665
I want to stick my nose up her butt

>> No.5117740

>>5113430
based

>> No.5120585

>>5116703
The only thing that weirded me out about her mouth is when she opens it wide, it straight up looks like something from the furry fandom. I've since gotten used to it tho.

>>5114081
Is a timestamp in a youtube compilation good enough for you? https://youtu.be/ya6wJ45UykI?t=2607

>> No.5120808

>>5103661
Ah, I see you're enjoying E3 as well

>> No.5121194

>>5092210
looked into the hololive software jobs, it looks like they're following relatively modern practices.
It's all just iphone's face detect api, and applying different images for different output classes.
Then again there's like 2 jobs you can do that you can get imported there doing english teacher and software developer. Some jap software's ok like rpgmaker, but I can't say I've seen too many examples. I guess maybe sony firmware and nintendo games?

>> No.5121484

>>5103943
I'd rather watch her boring streams or Sora horror games instead of a pewdiepie wannabe who doesn't even own a limiter because loud noises are funny.

>> No.5121709

I want to know why the holos took forever to do something as seemingly simple as pinning an asset to their rig and having it move around with them.


>>5104899
In the case of Veibae (her charming live2D model aside): I don't know if this is an intended schtick or a side effect but despite being a succubus, a good amount of the sexual stuff she says shows some inexperience; basically a young succubus that talks big. That in itself is cute in a way.
She's also the type of clown who looks at half-cooked squiggles of ground beef and says "imagine cumming and it looked like that", speaking her mind and saying some pretty gross stuff.

To me, the vshojos (and snuffy) are best when they collab with each other as that's when things get slumber-party-tier hilarious. You also hear some pretty relatable random thoughts or scenarios that make them human.
That's how it is for me, at least.

t. a weirdo that never had fellow weirdos to be candid clowns with
How do we know ground black pepper isn't ground caterpillar poop?

>> No.5122447

>>5112418
Generally yes, I think Subaru looks better, although it's disingenuous to use that clip as comparison because she's barely supposed to be moving there to begin with.

>> No.5122643

>>5110318
Look at the way her hair moves at the slightest motion. Its as if she's underwater

>> No.5123129 [DELETED] 

Why is it the people who telling other to cope are the one who coping because they still think Hololive is the best

>> No.5123199

She's that fucking futa eroge where everyone jiggles like jello

>> No.5123442

Is she good at FPS games like Botan?

>> No.5123693

>>5107507
>vtuber is boring, unfunny, cringe
But we are not talking about Hololive

>> No.5124357

>>5123693
seethe vshotard

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>>5093552
Pomu Rainpuff is way more entertaining than Snuffy.

>> No.5125138

>>5124577
>rainshit entertaining
lmao

>> No.5125696

>>5125138
seethe more snufftard

>> No.5125872

>>5124357
>Funny noise peko peko *meme arrow* A nigga~ dochi dochi I'm horny ecum bocum
Ah yes. Hololive talent.

>> No.5127211

I understand why holofags are disturbed by Snuffy's movement. After spending a year staring at glorified PNGs that barely move, anything with actual life must be horrifying.

>> No.5127377

>all this bickering
Just post the porn already.

>> No.5127593

>>5125872
Kys clipfag retard

>> No.5127714

Because in the end, personality is the biggest catch and I don't care about watching western thots.

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5131466

Shut the fuck up, it's not just this fat roastie. This random Japanese indie has great tracking as well: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMNn_MIASpEPtIXdLMZY9vA

>> No.5132164

>>5131466
looks like shit

>> No.5132699

>>5087665
Reminder that if Snuffy kept her original pink cat Nyanners rip off avy that she started out with, nobody would give a shit about her and she would disappear into the vast sea of fat women putting on a loli voice.

>> No.5132909

>>5116703
>I can't put it into words properly, but it feels like her mouth gets TOO realistic at points, pulling off movements you don't expect from anime character.

Hope you don't like KyoAni, Mitsuo Iso, and sakuga stuff

>> No.5132936

If Snuffy was Japanese nobody would be having these complaints. Always remember YWNBJ

>> No.5133110

>>5132164
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Behs7DGh7QY
Her mouth has the same degree of accuracy (while also looking much less uncanny) and she can move her hands unlike her. Cope. Your western roastie isn't special.

>> No.5133144

>>5133110
>stiff lip syndrome
>bitch sings like shit
Do better retard.

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>>5110572
thats called swag, loser

>> No.5133309

>>5133144
>stiff lip syndrome
Wtf does that mean? The movement is as good as it gets. It's just not uncanny and exaggerated.

>> No.5133408

>>5132936
>Always remember happy day
FTFY

>> No.5133454

Her new avatar is niggershit.

>> No.5133468
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>>5088171
>this holocucks cope
insta save this image

>> No.5133514

>>5092582
i don't like this pic, it's smug aura mocks me

>> No.5133528

>>5114193
If you watched a Botan or a Korone stream you would know how fucking boring they are.

>> No.5133541

>>5111886
>>5112538
>>5133148
You will never be Japanese. You will always be seen as a foreigner. Your language skill will never be on par with a native speaker.

>> No.5133570

>>5133541
You are simping for a fat furfag please reconsider your life choices.

>> No.5133676

>>5133570
what are you talking about, there are no simps on /vt/

>> No.5133738

>>5133570
>there are no simps on /vt/
Bro...

>> No.5133889

>>5088171
Wont deny its more animated but i get more of a pixar feeling than anime from it.

>> No.5134073

>>5133889
Anime faces are stylized, so combining 3d animation type motion tracking with anime aesthetics is just a little offputting to me. I wouldn't say its clearly superior except maybe in a technical sense.

>> No.5134146

Korone and Pekora have absolute dogshit facial tracking and it doesn't affect how they perform numbers wise.

>> No.5134159

>>5133570
she's not even fat
you're probably morbidly obese and undesirable

>> No.5134168

>>5134159
>he doesn't know
Oh no no no no no

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>>5133541
i know. i just want to know what the cute anime girls are telling me.

>> No.5134311

>>5133570
Snuffy provides me with the true GFE that I can't get right now. She hits a sweet spot for me, so I gladly simp for her dorky ass.

>> No.5134472

>>5134200
yoooon... saaan... niiii... iiiichi...
ze-ro.
haaaai~ pyu pyuuu~
pyu pyu pyu pyuuuu~

>> No.5134640

>>5134168
she said she gained weight and her current weight is 150lbs

that would put her at a normal BMI or barely above overweight, unless she is a midget

>> No.5134660

>>5134640
She's 4'6". Fucking womanlet.

>> No.5134730

>>5134660
holy shit my cock would destroy her

>> No.5134849

>>5134640
keep in mind she said that a few months ago so it's possible it's changed by now, although I doubt by much

>> No.5135088

>>5087665
this image makes me horny

>> No.5135318

>>5134660
shortstack shortstack shortstack!

>> No.5135377

>>5134200
ngl lie anon, you're a based-ass little bitch for this one

>> No.5135387

>>5134660
AAAAAAAAAH SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEX

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>>5134660
>Thicc
>4'6''
>shortstack
MATING
PRESS

>> No.5135766

>>5088171

Does her tail move randomly or is it based on something?

>> No.5135902

>>5093955
you are absolutely correct, vshitshow will never have someone as soulful as pekora, she is above all those normal basic whores

>> No.5136207

>>5135902
We are not talking about the talents or how good they are, we are talking about the rigs. The question is not whether Snuffy is a better Vtuber than holos (she is NOT) the question is why can't more successful and better Vtubers in hololive and niji have better rigs that come close to hers (more specifically her live2d, not her 3d)

>> No.5136231

>>5110572
>average woman
hore shit the copium
your vshitjo whores pray to be in hololive, i bet veishitter got rejected that's why she is so butthurt and coping

>> No.5136420

>>5134660
4'6" and 155lbs is fucking obese.

>> No.5136449

>>5120585
Thanks.

>> No.5137258

>>5136207
>(she is NOT)
she is. far more entertaining than random squeaks and fake knowledge over what they're trying to do

>> No.5137582

>>5087665
Scunny

>> No.5138565

>>5135766
I think the tail and ears move randomly

>> No.5140731

>>5087665
where are the lewds

>> No.5140814

>>5140731
There's plenty if you look on the boorus.

>> No.5143161

>>5140731
She had a nipslip during a vr chat stream

>> No.5144341

>>5087665
and to think that there was a time when the japanese were honorable enough to commit seppuku after disgracing themselves like this.

>> No.5144515

Snuffy's model giving a kiss is cute as fuck and Nene's kisses are missing out that flavor

>> No.5146279

>>5140731
Careful anon, Snuffy seems to draw the weirdest kinksters to her lewds.

>> No.5147024

>>5087665
I don't get why people hate her so much. She's not my cup of tea but she isn't insufferable to listen to or anything.

>> No.5147954

>>5147024
They were mind raped. Dragged in by the design but reality hit them like a truck. Except that truck is also a rapist Decepticon.

>> No.5153275

I want her feet pics

>> No.5159549

>>5090935
You literally sold me on her

>> No.5161467

>>5096737
Her design grew on me a lot, but that's it.

Her content/overall demeanor reminds me of, how should I put it? One of those 00s fat girls who would wear Nightmare Before Christmas shirts and quote Invader Zim and gigglesquee you, but like an edgy version of that. Like say one of those girls past high school age, now working at Starbucks and fucking her manager or something. In short, trash.

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>>5136420
It seems to be well into the obese range at that.

>> No.5164747

snuffy's good. she's got a sincerity to her that you can appreciate and it makes her streams fun.
>>5161467
incredible projection

>> No.5165067

Thanks thread for selling me on the obese furfagette. Following on Twitch now.

>> No.5165309

She's a trashpanda. She's suppose to be fat.

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>>5134660
I want to plow her fat, dorky raccoon ass so fucking bad

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>>5135766
I assume it's random but her tail sometimes seems to move around more whenever she's giggling up a storm so I wonder if it's tied to her voice activity in some way.

>> No.5172181

>>5087665
It's literally only the mouth tracking though

>> No.5172419

>>5172181
she used to have quite decent hand tracking too, although it looked bad with her model's fat little fingers.

>> No.5172593

>>5087665
How can you look at this fat raccoon retard and not want to shove your cock down her throat and drown her in gallons of your semen

>> No.5173549

>>5134640
I'm not going to argue that she isn't obese. She's an American, it pretty much come with the territory.
What I will argue is that she likely weighs less than the bulk of the people on this board. Which isn't a very high standard to clear.

>> No.5173671

>>5173549
do you not understand that weight by itself doesn't mean anything?

>> No.5173721

>>5173671
I'd wager she also has a lower BMI as well. Again, not a difficult hurdle.

>> No.5173769

>>5093955
Westoids love talking about sex and will remind you to have it daily while you're focused on becoming Japanese. Don't fall for the bait.

>> No.5173872

>>5173721
well, mine's 24.8.

>> No.5173910

>>5173721
Doubt it. Most Americans girls I talk to weigh the same as me while being almost a foot shorter

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>>5172181
Her eyes are tracked too.
>https://www.twitch.tv/snuffy/clip/SuccessfulCharmingDragonfruitTheTarFu-7PAHpnXHwruYZMBo?filter=clips&range=30d&sort=time

>> No.5174533

>>5173910
Fair enough. The only way to know for sure would be if enough people had the balls to submit theirs like >>5173872 has and be completely honest about it, which I have little faith anyone would do. Similarly, I have little faith that anyone here actually talks to women, but here in the Midwest I can confirm that a lot of women look like they stepped out of Gauntlgrym. So it's not like I can say you're wrong.

>> No.5176730

>>5174533
Im 181cm 74kg btw if you wanted to know. At my skelliest I was 68kg. I mostly hang out with weeb/larper girls so that is a big bias for weight lol

>> No.5178578

>>5134640
Kek. Two years ago I was in the 140s. And I'm 5'10". She has to be a fattie.

>> No.5179487

>>5114376
>Cuz she’s above average at fps games and her laugh is the best
ftfy

>> No.5182364

>>5136420
She's not 4'6" tho

>> No.5183506

>>5174033
Her eyes are actually even more expressive in 2D, at least that's what I think.

>> No.5186213

>>5183506
Yes

>> No.5196368

Love her bros

>> No.5206363

idgasf if she's chubby i would mating press all the fucking way bc i know she would be into it.

>> No.5210173

>>5164747
I've been slowly losing interest and noticing little things. While I know she's probably the most sincere Vtuber you can watch, lately she's been changing my mind a little bit. Her current hiatus/extended vacation has uncovered a few things I find odd or annoying. The few streams she's done have been charity streams, sponsored streams, collabs with her friends and on occasion she'd pop in and open some pokemon cards. It made me question her sincerity. Streaming for friends, Streaming for money, Streaming for charity, Streaming for herself, about the only people she doesn't seem to stream for is her own viewers. It's almost like she doesn't care about the people that actually watch her streams. I guess the simps have given her enough money she doesn't really care anymore maybe she never did care. She also recently brought up how she used to fat shame people and that's why she feels self conscious about her weight and honestly I kind of wonder how many people she bullied for being fat in school. Maybe the reason she has such harsh imposter syndrome is because of this. All the people she presumably bullied are probably still dealing with those mental issues today. Gotta love making lives worse and giving people long term personality disorders right?

Even though I think she changed a lot and she's said incredibly kind things on her streams it bugs me to think there are people out there going to therapy or they have eating disorders because she couldn't help but mock someone. I apologize for my lengthy wall of text rant but this has honestly been bugging me for awhile now and I had to vent anonymously for a moment.

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>>5210173
I think your overthinking it a bit there, not that deep.

>> No.5212421

>>5210173
>Gotta love making lives worse and giving people long term personality disorders right?
why don't you tell us? you're clearly into this shit, trying to get under her skin in here by being passive-agressive.

>> No.5212532

>>5210526
Yeah probably, I mean she did do the VRChat model reveal before the collab so that her viewers would get to see it first and she still occasionally does stuff with her subs, She even chats with people in her community a lot which is far closer than other vtubers get with their viewers, this big sis personality is why she's my favorite VTuber even though I vented I still adore the trash panda and I don't really want her to feel bad I know she occasionally comes here but I really wanted to vent.

>> No.5212609

>>5102696
Kiara legit gives personal info 24/7 and non-stop talks about what she's going to be doing and has recently done irl. She talks about her past without straight up saying who she was and gives so much info that she's the realest of the EN girls. The only difference is that she does so while also not spazzing out and using the Twitch meme words of the week. She's built her own humor and inside jokes (just like most of the Holo's) and doesn't fully really on POGCHAMP LOL GAYMERS WHAT UP I WANNA GO FINGER MYSELF XD.

>> No.5213379

>>5212421
Oh I have a shit load of mental issues ranging from being bullied as a child for all manner of things to family issues. I tend to passive aggressive "bully" which has been pretty affective even if it's slightly unintentional, I use 4chan to vent my frustrations with stuff which can come off as bullying and up until recently none of those people saw my shitposts/opinions, I don't want to stop venting my frustrations just because she might actually see my post, I don't want to bully I just want to state my opinion on 4chan which is as good as tossing a glass bottle into the ocean, I might use harsher words than I mean to use but it IS my opinion most of the time. I don't know Snuffy, I never will really know her, all I can do is watch streams and express my opinion on said stream.

>> No.5213544

>>5102696
I have mixed feelings about Snuffy. The avatar is cute, but she's the kind of girl I wouldn't like to be friends with in person. I do really like that she's genuine.

>> No.5214313

>>5213379
Well that's some military grade trolling that you've posted and I wouldn't be tossing it around aimlessly if I were you. But I'm not you and I don't believe in censorship, so I guess it'll just be on your concious if she reads this and eats herself into a coma afterwards.

>> No.5214925

>>5212609
That’s cool dude I’m happy for both of them

>> No.5217087

>>5110572
Yeah imagine investing in a skill

>> No.5218464

>>5088171
It's only partially rigging. The real advantage is the meme burger girl is using an IPhone with face ID for tracking. Makes a bigger difference than you might think.

>t. Vtuber rigger

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>>5214313
I'm just some idiot on 4chan that just happens to watch every Snuffy stream. I'm quite aware of how my opinion posts could hurt certain individuals. I really don't want to be mean to Snuffy. It's just that I thought she was a very kind person which she absolutely is, I still believe she's kind and she probably doesn't deserve the sting of my shitty negative opinion but when she said she used to shame fat people without elaborating just how bad it was my mind built it into public shaming such as school bullying. Perhaps it wasn't like that but she never elaborated. I can forgive people for past mistakes of course and I'm not really obligated to any explanation elaborating further nor do I want more explanation into her real life. I'm just a dickhead really.

>> No.5219189

>>5218585
I'd also like to elaborate something I feel that I failed to say properly. The act of hating fat isn't bad, It's an opinion or preference, my judgement is for public shaming or bullying of individuals. Everyone is entitled to their own preference and opinion.

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>>5103661
>In 1972
Still makes me chuckle

>> No.5220085

>>5124357
>vshota
now that's an organisation i would sub to

>> No.5221854

>>5113583
Bro you have 0 actual points, just pure seethe. You are literally the only one butthurt and coping. Now seethe more monkey, seethe for me you pathetic fuck, its funny as shit and i want to laugh more

>> No.5221902

>>5127593
>only watches snuffy clips
>WHAT A FUCKING WHORE
>someone does the same thing this faggot just did but hololive
>DIE FUCKING CLIPFAG

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>>5087665
girldm has some good tracking too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nlk61zXlPE
Her live2d model is okay too and she showed how to add new stuff to your live2d on the fly in a few seconds, so I have no fucking flying clue why hololive is stuck with only accessories provided by the artists, and anything else is just fucking staying there without integration with live2d.

>> No.5224487

>>5221997
I like the way she is emphasizing the 'F' and 'C' sound. She knows how damn good her tracking is.

>> No.5225386

>>5088171
Somewhat unrelated to the topic but I really wanted to point out I love that little ear wiggle under the hood. So cute.

>> No.5225821

>>5113583
After all that, that's what you have to say ? Jesus you got mogged the fuck out Holonigger

>> No.5230204

>>5087665
worse how?

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>>5212609
Good for her

>> No.5233033

>>5093955
>>5099156
>>5092552

There is nothing a /vt/ard despises more than a woman with normal interests and it shows. Just look at how these niggers recoil at the sight of any vtuber that isn't A. spastic or B. a gook barely capable of speaking English. Niggers see one streamer that reminds them of their inadequacies and immediately revert to r9k-tier mannerisms. It's like seeing banal, normie-tier white women immediately resurfaces years worth of adolescence PTSD.

>> No.5233411

>>5233033
So this girl is literally just your usual run-of-the-mill e-thot with vapid interests and opinions. Weren't you supposed to sell me on her?

>> No.5233488

>>5233411
Selling her was never the plan.

>> No.5233577

>>5133541
>Your language skill will never be on par with a native speaker.
This is a common myth among retards too dumb to deeply learn a language. The average native speaker doesn't really understand his langauge, and can be mogged in three years.

>> No.5236113

Feeding ducks with Snuffy!

>> No.5236174

>>5233488
idk about that bro id pay top dollar to have her in a collar and leash

>> No.5237247

>>5110572
>Probably speaks the most souless lenguaje of all
>Probably doesnt know a single shit about spanish despite +12 years of education
>L-Learning something is difficult!

>> No.5237388

>>5087665
Elienes’ family has had far more advanced 3d technology by ages above all the other vtubers for years and no one noticed,

Theres a reason why all their videos are done in 360%

Hololive is just super lazy and dont invest in this stuff

>> No.5237417

>>5218464
>The real advantage is the meme burger girl is using an IPhone with face ID for tracking.
Isn't that what all the holos are using? The hololive application runs on a iPhone lent to them by Cover

>> No.5237559

>>5233577
You will always speak with an accent, there is no way around this unless you learn the language at a young age. There will cultural idioms and context to the language that you will not know because you didn't grow up with the culture. You will always be seen a foreigner and will be treated differently for it. You will never escape "nihongo ga jouzu desu ne".

>> No.5237763

>>5237559
>here will cultural idioms and context to the language that you will not know because you didn't grow up with the culture.
There will also be cultural idioms and context that you do know, but the native does not, because the native isn't as educated in his own culture. It might be easier for you to think in english. How much does the average english speaker know of his culture? If you referenced classic literature, would he really have an advantage over, say, a professional translator? Of course not.
>You will never escape "nihongo ga jouzu desu ne".
This is also a lie. Once you reach a certain level, and it isn't even that difficult, they don't praise you for merely speaking, and assume you were born in japan. The assumption that native speakers are at a level you will never reach is stupidity. Try actually learning a foreign language deeply.

>> No.5237791

>>5221997
>>5237417
Hololive uses iPhones for 2D face tracking, but they use their own custom in-house software for the animation. That's the source of the limitations that you see.

>> No.5237836

>>5237559
Literally all of those things can be learned, retard. It might be impossible for you, but thankfully, not everyone is as dumb.

>> No.5237976

>>5237791
Thanks, that clarifies it

>> No.5238260

>>5090935
TIGERS

>> No.5238309

>>5092210
Probably a consequence of their culture. Currently effective software methods depends on being able to talk freely to customers, something that Japanese people can't do

>> No.5238373

>>5133528
Botan is chill, she's really good background noise. Don't tell me you actually watch streams while doing nothing else?

>> No.5238399

most hololive rigging looks like shit let's be real

>> No.5238401

>>5093552
Or earning money lol

>> No.5238473

>>5103447
>Village was too easy for her, basically
She didn't do a VoS new game though, that might be some challenge

>> No.5238492

>>5210173
Karma hit her back for bullying fat people by making her develop a fetish for fat bastards with fat cocks

>> No.5238687

>>5237559
Black people born in America can't even speak English properly. An immigrant with would have no trouble outskilling natives in English. I was born in Ukraine and speak Uke Russian and English with no accent

>> No.5238830

>>5238399
Some holos have half-way decent mouth tracking, like Botan and Reine.

>> No.5238944

>>5210173
>snuffy bullied hamplanets
wtf I love snuffy now

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