/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Holy shit terrible tweet screenshot thread

And im back on my grind

Why is this such a common opinion?

>hey maybe you will want a family someda-
>NOOOOOO I WILL NEVER HAVE KIDS!!!!

>>51805697
Money and hating responsibility.

Women are retarded. They see their future in older women who wish they had children while they still could and they ignore them. Retards can only learn when bad things happen to them rather than seeing it happen to others.

>be mentally ill
>brag about it online
The fuck is wrong with women

>>51805387
This where's future husband better damn well be told the truth before she marries him. Fucking women.

>>51805387
Only in the West is it less shameful to be a whore than it is to be a mother or a housewife.

>>51805697
Which one? Not wanting to have kids, or willing to go as far as to remove their ability to have kids? I can understand the former, but the latter is hardly common.

Spending time on /vt/ makes me less misogynistic. Western women are such absolute skanks that the girls over here are innocent pure maidens in comparison.

Why does it matter? Not like anybody on /vt/ with a penis is going to be reproducing ever.

the breeding fetish line speaks to the fact that they cannot percieve fulfillment beyond instant gratification like the ideal life would be nothing more than repeated orgasms

>>51806107
The "I don't want kids right now therefore I will never want kids" is extremely common. Less common, but still worryingly so, is the "why won't a doctor give me a hysterectomy" complaint that follows.

Somewhere in between the two is the apathy towards / borderline glorification of abortion which is also concerning.

>>51805387
You know... instead of doing irreversible operation that can't be undone, couldn't she just use this newfangled technology invented by Ancient Egyptian called a "condom"?

>>51805387
Doctor is right. A whore would use birth control and get an abortion if that fails. You're not even a whore, you're a dumb whore. Being dumb and arrogant is pretty hot though, so I would dump my cum into her barren womb.

Lumfao. Go through with it. Then you'll turn 32 and be like "wait fuck that was a mistake SHIT! Everyone I know is relishing in the success and lives of their kids and I'm fat and ugly playing xbox! Who will spend Christmases with me!? What about my memories nooooo! x-x "

>>51805387
> anti-kids hysteria
Permanent birth control always bring a regret
Always
Better to have the ability to have one and decided you don't want one, than removing it completely
(unless you're a tranny)

>>51805387
Anyone ever step back and realize that most of this shit is going to disappear within a couple generations now that all the degenerates and freaks are allowed to voluntarily remove themselves from the gene pool? Human genetic fitness is selecting against these type of people like never before.

I hope all vtubers do it, specially the ones I like.
Raising kids means less streams.

Im conflicted.
On one hand people should be discouraged from making unneeded, unnecessary and irreversible decisions like a hysterectomy.
On the other hand, I don't want these kind of people to breed.

>>51805387
>hysterectomy over birth control
How often is Grape having unprotected sex for this to be a financially viable option?

>>51805387
No because raising a child in this world of trannoid subhumans is not worth it.

>>51805387
Anon, I know you may not know much about the female body and sex, but the procedure she's talking about is a tubal ligation, not a hysterectomy.

>>51806264

>>51807981
No amount of unprotected sex would make it a "financially viable option", considering tubal ligation is cheaper than a hysterectomy anyway (and with far fewer side effects).

>>51806709
>Who will spend Christmases with me!?
you have to construct an entire human being from scratch just to not be alone during holidays

>>51805387
If you speak english you shouldn't be allowed to be a vtuber.

>>51806264
You never know, i been with plenty of girls. The other day i actually tried to remember every girl i ever fucked and im sure im over 100 by now. Now they all been escorts, but still.

>>51806446
Anon, a hysterectomy solves more problems than just pregnancies.

single women always say this and then a year into a serious relationship they change their mind, it's not even funny anymore

at least it allows you to separate the femcels from the secret relationship havers

My oshi thinks the idea of her
getting pregnant is gross despite her breeding fetish

>>51808584
I'm sure a tubal ligation is still a significantly more expensive procedure than birth control.
You would have to get a lot of dick for that to be the better option.

>>51809768
To be pedantic, tubal ligation is birth control. Setting that aside, it can supposedly be had for <$6,000. That's cheaper than a lot of other forms of birth control when the birth control is being used for decades.

Look at these two commie bitches lol

>>51805387
I WILL put a baby in her before that happens, mark my words.

>>51811349
I doubt she has decades of fertility left. If she wants to remove herself from the board, whatever. I’m in my 40s and marrying an 18 year old from a third world country. My lineage will continue.

>>51809768
>I'm sure a tubal ligation is still a significantly more expensive procedure than birth control.
A lot less hormonal side-effects though, at least from what I have been able to research.

>>51805697
Trying to be a boss bitch mentality. I have two friends who never wanted that "white picket fence" life and now ten years later, one is married with two kids.

>>51805387
Who cares. It doesn't impact their streaming ability.

>>51805387
I just want to point out this faggot has posted this image nearly every day, sometimes in multiple threads including on /v/, for the past 6 months because he got kicked out of Bat's discord for being a total sperg

For all intents and purposes, women like this are transsexual.

>>51805697
Why are breeders so offended when other people don't want to ruin their life like they did? Parents are miserable and want others to feel they're suffering so they won't feel like they're the only retarded ones who fell for the kid meme

>>51805387
Based, i will feed their mental illness and encourage this nobody.

>>51805387
women moment
they'll regret it later

>>51807356
Would be true if we were squirrels, but human evolution is a little more complicated than that

>>51814714
>ruin their life
I feel so bad for you

>>51814714
If everyone thiught like you, our species would be extinct. It just goes to show how narcissistic and selfish you are that you only think in terms of immediate gratification.

>>51814714
They probably haven't thought about the situation properly. The mentally ill removing themselves from the gene pool is a plus, no reason to be angry.

>>51805697
>hey maybe you will want a family someda-
>3rd world countries: YEEEEEEEEES
HOLY FUCK YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES
I'm 14 but please give me 12 KIDS!

>>51814714
Unironically a redditor opinion. Go the fuck back to the sped class you came from.

>>51815272
Based. This is how 14-year-old girls should be.

>>51805697
It causes a lot of internal trauma for women to rate and value their life as a commodity while men do it when they learn how much they want to punch each other. See;
>>51814714
>MEMEMEME
>my short-sighted personal fulfillment
>can understand society won't function and they'll die, most likely horribly, if everyone doesn't have kids
>can even understand people change and they are very different from themselves 5 years ago
>don't cut out [Women's most important thing]? BUT MY PERIODS.

>people who reject responsibility and think of children/family as a burden
>people who can't see the hypocrisy of calling those people selfish specifically for not wanting kids
Every time

>>51813312
Based

>>51815272
please be in Jakarta

>>51814714
"Breeders" are the happiest people I know. How many kids they have is correlated with how content they seem. They really want other people to have kids because it's such a deep level of instinctual happiness, so much that you're willing to put up with a whole year of sleepless nights, and 18+ years of caring for somebody. It's too good not to share.

Meanwhile childless women in their 30s and above are some of the most miserable people I know. They're always going on about something that doesn't really concern them.

>>51815028
Breeders and crack addicts have a thing in common.

Both are emaciated people trying to convince you that what they do is the coolest shit ever and you're missing out / going to regret it.

>>51805387
>hysterectomy
you don't need a fucking hysterectomy to not have kids, anon. "that surgery" is not a hysterectomy, it's a tubal ligation

>>51815907
>They're always going on about something that doesn't really concern them.
Like talking about other people that don't want to have children?

Pro: your oshi will never be impregnated by another man.

Con: she won't pass down the genes that made her so special to you.

>>51805697
Women are soulless harpies who don't know what they want, in another 2-3 years she will hold the opposite opinion and anyone who listens to her will just be kind of fucked.

>>51816198
I don't think being good at streaming is genetic.

>>51806436
The pro-abortion rhetoric is a big part of the reason why women think like this. Everyone recognizes that having children is a burden and that there are legitimate reasons for not having them, but abortion activists have gone way beyond this. They depict children as parasites that invade a woman's body against her will, destroy her life and happiness, frequently kill her, and are desired only by elderly Republican men who get off on tormenting women because they're just evil like that. It's no surprise that women would completely reject childbearing when that is the message they've been receiving about it their entire lives.

your parents probably wish they'd never had you either
good thing most people posting here will be the last of their bloodline

>>51806436
>hysterectomy
opinion discarded, you have no idea what you're talking about

>>51808392
>>51816083
>um akshually she wants a tubal ligation and NOT a hysterectomy
Grape has explicitly stated before on-stream that she wants a hysterectomy lol

>>51814714
Are you stupid? It's basic observation. Most people when very young have no desire to have kids and imagine they never will. Years later, they think they may want kids someday, just not now. Later, they want kids, but maybe circumstances are in the way. Then there's plenty of people who waited too long, got the desire, but never had kids and regretted it ever since. Not saying that's everyone who never has kids, nor even most, but the sensible conclusion is that it's not prudent to lock yourself out now when it's a factor that typically changes with age.

>>51805387
If you can't impregnate your oshi through a hysterctomy, it just means your semen is weak as fuck.

>>51805387
There are legitimate reasons to have it removed like cancer, but just because you don't want kids is stupid. If you can't keep your legs closed use protection.

>>51816914
100% this. It doesn't make sense to lock yourself out of a lifepath prematurely as circumstances could drastically change nearly overnight. People who do stuff like that can end up bitter about it later but won't admit to it.

But that's none of my business, it's theirs. However I'm also not interested in hearing about it unless it's someone I'm in a relationship with.

>>51805697
>Hey I see you made a medical decision about your body but have you thought about this basic thing that you were guaranteed to have considered?
>I only ask because you are a woman and prone to childish flights of fancy so you must have missed this basic thing.
>I realize its your life and future you are making decisions about and I have no idea about any of that but I'm going to go ahead and decide for you instead because I don't think you choose correctly

Who even makes enough money to have kids these days anyways? Must be nice. I guess if you’re making 150K USD or more then having kids makes sense but I’m a poorfag and other poorfags shouldn’t be having children either.

>>51818007
This but unironically

>>51805697
Kids are retarded and make bad decisions. They get slightly less retarded the older they get then eventually start being retarded about completely different things somewhere around middle age, give out take. The only saving grace is that older retards tend to make fewer long term bad decisions than young retards. Like removing or disabling their genitalia before they even know who they are. I mean I'm not complaining-- the gene pool is basically cleaning itself; I'm just saying.

>>51818969
>You make decisions because you are only human
>I will make them for you even though I'm not only also human but also understand less about the circumstances of your life
Faultless logic

>>51805697
WEF propaganda and it's working!!!

>>51815962
You probably know a lot of crackheads, don't you faggot?
At the end of the day what you're doing is coping because you can't make a family with your fag partner's asshole.

>>51805387
Is this that one schizo brapchuuba that scammed a bunch of people for a new model?

>>51805697
kids are life-ruiningly expensive now

>>51819460
>>51818007
This femanon agrees we should let depressed teenagers kill themselves. After all, it's their own medical decision about their own body.
Everyone knows that teenagers are always capable of making rational decisions about their life decades into the future. And so if putting a bullet in their own head after a break up in high school is what they want, then we as a society should respect their medical decision about their future or lack thereof.

>>51816387
A lot of hentai and porn tropes in general too kind of have a habit a habit of portraying pregnancy in a really negative light as like a form of punishment or just subjugation, like the whole plap plap get pregnant thing that was being spammed nonstop with Ina not long ago. It's really rare to see positively portrayed impregnation in porn made for men, pretty much always an ugly fuck forcing himself on a horrified screaming girl with the close zoomin of sperm cells and the egg with the implication she's the one stuck with the consequences of his actions while he'll just disappear

>>51820079
This but unironcally. If we had let more histrionic over emotional pussies weed themselves out in the early 2000s society wouldn't be in the state it is now

>>51805387
My oshi is already pregnant, I’m the father obviously, so I wouldn’t be that disappointed if she wanted to stop at one. It’s not quite the baseball team I envisioned but it’s enough.

>>51820079
>Teenagers
Nobody is talking about teenagers retard

>>51820248
>let's your woman whore herself online for views
Alright iduubz, not everyone has a humiliation fetish

>>51820353
most women are perma teenagers mentally, lmao
especially 20-something bitches

>>51805387
>wanting children is a "breeding fetish"
the rot runs deep

>>51820353
>too stupid to understand an analogy
Women. Amiright, fellas?

>>51820353
You're right. No one IS talking about teenagers, not even the post you replied to that you failed to understand.

>>51820660
It's terminal.
>>51805965

>>51809099
Go solve your beloved Nippon's birth rates lol

>>51820870
So what is the analogy?
We have to protect teenagers from their own mistakes because they are young and dumb?
But also grown women because they are also permanently dumb unlike smart, logical men?

I've been on this site for over a decade, it's filled with men and I have yet to see a sane rational though on here.

>>51815209
>The mentally ill removing themselves from the gene pool is a plus, no reason to be angry.
This. Nature is healing, why the bloody fuck would you interfere? This is an absolutely necessary sacrifice society must make to get rid of the deranged leftists who are more sensitive to propaganda than their own biology. After they're all dead the next generation will be exclusively be descended from those less genetically susceptible to brainwashing, which is a GOOD thing. Those committing genetic suicide were the weak and unfit, they should well be exterminated anyway and this is the nicest way to go about it.

>>51820110
Yes, and?
It's porn. It's fantasy. Just because someone enjoys rape hentai doesn't mean they want to be raped or want to rape someone in real life. Humans are fucked up animals and one of the consequences of having such a big brain is that humans tend to form complex sexual fantasies and/or interests. However, one of the other consequences of having that big brain is that humans don't act on those impulses or interests if they know doing so is destructive towards themselves or others. Or at least, the decent ones don't.

>>51820110
This. So much.

>>51821282
It's not about it being a fantasy. It's about it being a fantasy for men only.
Almost no woman fantasizes about waddling around pregnant.
Have you seen Alien? This shit is basically real life body horror.

>>51809282
killing herself solves more problems then

>>51821035
I never said any of that shit about women. My point was that we tend to prevent people from making life altering medical decisions that harm themselves, especially if there are easier, less harmful ways for the patient to achieve the same result, despite those results being less convenient for the patient. We do this for both men and women. It is one of the basic tenets of modern medicine.

>>51821264
If you do that then the only people left will be spics and nogs.

>>51821486
If you haven't worked it out yet, Alien was explicitly intended as pro-abortion propaganda. In particular, it was intended on extending the fear to men by showing them be parasitised as well.

>>51821486
It's not always about self insertion. Some women enjoy rape hentai because they want to see other women in distress.

>>51821282
And fiction and fantasy have a demonstrable impact on real world attitudes and perceptions, to this day people think sharks are horrible murderous killing machines because the Jaws movies made them seem scary even though dolphins are a lot more likely to just kill you for fun, or how pedophiles often use drawn child porn to introduce their victims to the concept of sex
You can jerk off to what you want, all I'm saying is you shouldn't be surprised if pregnancy frequently being portrayed as a form of torture or punishment in fiction leads to stigmatization. Even if you're just too high and mighty and intellectual to have your mindset affected by media you consume (which I find unlikely considering you watch vtubers) the general public still is

>>51821712
It was an anti-rape and forced pregnancy "propaganda", i.e. an artistic work of fiction.
If that's what "pro-abortion" means to you.

And that's the point. Pregnancy is fucking horrifying.
Something alien grow inside you, makes you weak and decrepit, steals your health away and then traumatically exits.
If you want the end result badly enough you can force yourself to go through it but expecting everyone to just line up and welcome it is insane.

>>51805387
If they don't want kids why don't they just not have sex?

>>51805697
It's the glorification of the "this is my body and therefore I can do whatever I want!" mentality. Except, those women don't even create themselves, therefore the autonomy logic is faulty. Take this to the extreme and you get MAID (euthanasia) in Canada.

It's too bad it's behind the paywall, but it's a good read that debunks this kind of mentality (I can read it somehow a few days ago). The author doesn't even argue for conservatism (it's The Atlantic, duh), just a different kind of liberalism.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2023/06/canada-legalized-medical-assisted-suicide-euthanasia-death-maid/673790/

>>51822393
Ah yes, euthanasia is bad because people can choose to escape being a cog in the machine that grinds their hopes and dreams into someone else's money.
What a cool take.

>>51822093
>Something alien grow inside you, makes you weak and decrepit, steals your health away and then traumatically exits.
yes, it's so alien and monstrous, sister. your offspring, that you created because you let a dude creampie you for pleasure, like a dumb whore
no one's saying you have to "line up and welcome it", just be ready to become a miserable 40/50 year old hag that regrets making it impossible for herself to have children as a retarded 20 year old

Why aren't you having kids instead of worrying about whether a random woman you will never meet will have children or not?

>>51805387
She sounds like a terrible person who would make a terrible mother, i hope she dies alone and unhappy

>>51821035
Naw 99% of the thoughts are rational, they're just unorthodox within your media inspired zeitgeist so you consider them wacky because you're a non-player in this world.

>>51822584
Your passive-aggressive argument is over my head, Anon.

What about the people that failed by society (i.e. disabled people and poor people who are suffering because of lack of support) so they rather killed themselves? It's just state-sponsored suicide if it's the way. If your oshi is a Canadian, the chance they'll take the MAID because of her being bullied by Twitter and /vt/ becomes non-zero (if the expansion for the mental illness becomes true, currently it's postponed).

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/canada-maid-assisted-suicide-homeless

>>51822678
Do you actually think the kind of people who spend their time on a board dedicated to paying money to e-whores for playing Minecraft have any family prospects?
All the pregnancy and family discussion is just academic

>>51814714
I mean I agree in that I don't want to have kids but holy projection anon, go buy a hooker to hug you.

>>51823040
What's the point of gossiping about literal whos like teenage girls when you're in the same boat as them and will end up alone and childless too?

>>51805387
Now that's what I call a woman moment, she sounds underage.

>>51820660
>>51805854
Quite literally because they think they can stay young and hot if only they hate the idea of kids, but always end up being "44, master's degree in HR, works in HR, wants kids someday" in the long run anyway.

The people who argue stupid shit like muh misery are going to be really fucking miserable when they're 80 and Jamaquata is beating them in the state-run old folks home because they have no living family to take care of them. It's exactly that kind of thing that drove societies to arrange marriages- people have proven they're too dumb to be trusted with running their own lives when they absolutely fail at basic shit like "maybe your boyfriend becomes your husband and gives you kids" and they scream "no, I'm going to be a vtweeter and stay young forever".

Plus in spite of memes, the continued existence of civilization is the only reason you can even have retarded delusions like "kids are a fetish, not necessary" in the first place, but to secure civilization people must breed. It wouldn't matter if the weirdos just fucked off to the woods like Uncle Ted, but we've reached a point where they think free-riding off every benefit they get from a society of 'breeders' is a right, while giving nothing back. And you just know she also has a lot of hot opinions about free healthcare, housing, UBI, free college too, but has no intention of making sacrifices or changes to achieve that shit. Because they always do.

>>51823268
Spoiler she's probably closer to 30.

>>51823282
Post baby

>>51823040
>if you have hobbies besides work and sex, you're le incel
I can't believe 99% of men in history were incels.

>>51805387
my oshi wouldn't want one because I wouldn't like that type of woman

>>51823380
Post tits, retard.

>>51823005
Actual schizo rambling about how women are weak and impressionable.

>>51823552
If schizos were impressionable they would believe literally every narrative promoted by mainstream media. It takes strength to tell you to fuck off when you promote medication which gives you cancer to 'normalize' them.

>>51823400
Factually true desu, historically speaking the majority of men died young in wars or environmental dangers, and even among the remaining ones it was more common for one powerful man to get all the bitches to himself than for the women to settle for lower quality men

>>51823656
>even among the remaining ones it was more common for one powerful man to get all the bitches to himself than for the women to settle for lower quality men
no

Why are you loser so intent on mentally ill/abusive/pieces of shit reproducing?
Fulfilment in life is one thing, but who fucking cares about the happiness of childhood if the people bring them into this world are scum of the earth? Just another fucked up child who will end up suffering in life
You call it selfish to never reproduce, I call it mercy to not raise a child with your fucked up genes and traits

>>51823476
You don't have a baby to post? Leech.

>>51823714
Who asked faggot, the OP asked about our Oshi's having hysterectomy, you cut off your thing all you like no one cares

>>51823703
>he doesn't know

>>51823846
I know plenty, I know your grandparents lived in a treehouse with 50 people in the community for example

>>51823012
If people have been failed by society how is forcing them to exist better than letting them chose not to?
I can guarantee you aren't for better social safety nets either, you don't care about the poor.
If society has failed people so baldly they want to die instead of continuing to live in it not letting them is not a better option.

>>51818020
>Who even makes enough money to have kids these days anyways?
If my high school reunion is anything to go by either everyone is or no one cares about finance here.

>>51823703
Nta, but this is actually somewhat true. Around 10,000 years ago, there was a genetic bottleneck and it's believed to have been caused by the introduction of agriculture leading to giant wealth disparity where one man would own all the farm land and partner with most of the women. This eventually led to violent revolt in which lonely men violently overthrew these prehistoric fiefdoms.

>>51824015
No, stop making up shit because you're not as cute as you'd like to be

>>51814714
you will regret this decision when you're dying cold and alone in an empty house because nobody loved you enough to even put you in a nursing home.

These people are (un)lucky that others who are far less dedicated and just stupid grifting child money collectors will fill the spot they should've used to make a kid.

Kinda sad that some people end their family tree just like that. "Nah, don't want my family to exist in 1000 years. Fuck em". This is how you create a future of browns and blacks, because THEY don't give a fuck. They'll fuck whatever isn't on the tree by the count of 10.

>>51824046
I just clicked on that other anon's graph, and surprisingly, that image is describing the exact thing that I was talking about.
I'm plenty cute. I just also enjoy learning about anthropology.

>>51822678
the sort of female attitude about reproducing seen in OP's pic is alarmingly common among young women these days and it terrifies men who actually want to get married and have kids

>>51824196
https://youtu.be/sP2tUW0HDHA
>>51824245
no it isn't, there are plenty of already mentioned factors which explain it fully.
men have always lived dangerously and still do in this ultra safe world

Friendly reminder this conversation is taking place on a board for childless men using streamers with anime avatars as substitutes for a girlfriend

>>51824251
Women have mostly always been like this since introduced into the work force. Almost no one wants kids when they're young. Eventually, this changes for both men and women as they get into their 30s. That's also why young women shouldn't have these procedures, because statistically, they are incredibly likely to change their mind over time just like how men also change their mind over time when it comes to settling down.

>>51824371
>as substitutes for a girlfriend
a substitute for a 30 asian woman harem*

>>51824288
I think you have the wrong impression. This wasn't a debate. The people who found these genetic bottlnecks are phd level anthropologists and geneticists. They have a bit more authority on this subject than a random femanon on 4chan that has a deep-seeded hatred for men.
And no, elevated risk taking or being ugly or agressive or whatever other misandist bullshit you're talking about does not explain a 17:1 reproduction rate 10000 years ago.

>>51824627
You're talking out of your ass.
It's been explained plenty. War and the way we behave day to day explains fully the 17:1 reproduction rate 10000 years ago.
Your nonsense theory on a farmer having a harem doesn't.

>>51822054
>how pedophiles often use drawn child porn to introduce their victims to the concept of sex
Why didn’t I think of it earlier?

>>51823939
Now you're assuming me in this anonymous Mongolian basket-weaving forum.

I would say that it's "living somewhere in a third-world country but somehow not stressed as much." While the social safety nets are definitely not great, the extended family makes up for it. Both my mother's family and my father's family helped me so much in life. And, I assume that I'll continue the tradition in the future if I am still alive when the time comes.

Again, if society has failed people so badly they want to die instead of continuing to live in it, then people will rebel against such a cold idea. People will ask their government to do something about it instead of making it easier for people to suicide. Even Canadians are realizing it, despite the stereotype.

>>51824680
>my theory
Lol it's not my theory. It's the theory of scientists. You are claiming this shit is wrong when you have zero academic background in genetics, anthropology, archeology, etc. Who are you to argue with hundreds of scientists who have been studying this subject matter their entire lives and have written extensive scientific literature about it?
Your high level of ignorance on this subject is only matched by your own narcissism.

>>51824700
You are missing the point.
If shit is bad enough that suicide is a viable alternative then suicide is not the issue.
Getting rid of suicide is not going to fix the underlying issues causing it.
All you are doing is making people suffer.

>>51825184
>It's the theory of scientists
no it's not

>>51825218
It literally is.

>>51825241
It literally isn't?

>>51814714
>breeder
porn has ruined your mind, kid.

>>51825261
It literally is if you have read any of original papers regarding this. The funniest part to me is that you somehow see this as some kind of attack on your own hypergamy.

>>51805387
who?

>>51825534
>any of original papers
yeah sure
mate it's not that complicated, it's not the exceptional that reproduces a lot it's the ones too stupid to pull out

KILL EVERYONE IN THIS THREAD

>>51822584
Euthanasia is bad because why force a doctor, and the entire culture of society, to accept you hate yourself when you can just fucking do a flip yourself

>Nooo I don't want to eat a bullet I want an entire institution to tell me they love and support me while they inject cyanide into my bloodstream
For fucks sake

>>51825832
kys
I'm not joking

>>51825918
no you

>>51825918
Nah, I think i'd rather cost the taxpayers the collective salary of every doctor, psychologist, and admin staff to have them kill me instead, because that's supposedly better

>>51825963
>It's bad that people are forced into suicide, if only people cared about each other's plight
>But also how fucking dare they inconvenience anyone with their death

What a fucking 180.
I'm sure you can find a nice rope or a tall building. No doctors necessary.

>>51805387
I'll say this for myself as well. There's something defective about you if you don't at some point have kids. You are broken in some way.
I'll probably never have kids, but I don't lay the blame at the feet of those that are functioning enough for that, or slag them off.

>>51826123
You do realize you're talking to different anons right?

>>51814714
I think it's a fair decision to make at around 30yo. Problem is teenagers think they know what they want. Same thing when teens get their first bf/gf and think it's meant to be and get married at like 18. Atleast you can annul/divorse a marriage, hysterectomies are permanent. You don't want to take that decision at a young age.

Why are incels so obsessed with female fertility?

You'd make terrible fathers anyway.

>>51806264

>>51826196
>>51824371
>>51822678
>>51816422
>>51816087
>>51806264
Why is this board so mentally ill

>>51826196
It's not about being a man specifically but generally being a man makes you more likely to care about your community and culture

>>51805387
Sounds like anti-spiral talk to me.

>>51826196
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sour%20grapes

>>51814714
LONDON?

>>51823012
Don't argue with this idiot. They pretty just want all the poor and disabled people to kill themselves, because they themself is so miserable.

>>51807356
I also thought this but I've also come to the conclusion that degenerates and freaks "reproduce" through the spread of ideology rather than physical birth. Hell there were and are civilizations that would execute degenerates and they're still here. You can only limit their influence by culturally shaming them to the highest level, a slip of tolerance (by todays distorted view of it) and they will spread and prosper to the detriment of your community/society

There is a switch that goes off in a woman's head at age 30 that tells her to breed, breed, breed.
The women that think they're unique and ignore the warnings of the lonely spinsters get everything they deserve

>>51816387
I had a friend use that parasite rhetoric on me during a debate on abortion. I just went quiet and told him he'll regret saying that one day.

>>51822393
I will forever be mad that the acronym isn't a social program to turn suicidal people into brainwashed "no thoughts, head empty" maids. Imagine the societal benefit we would get.
Fuck this King in Yellow dystopian bullshit

>>51823380

>>51805387
>breeding fetish
lol, lmao

>>51805387
I'm thinking, it's probably best that she does not have any children.

>>51805965
Meanwhile, birth rates in nipland is even lower than the west, so...

>>51805697
Feminism was never about making women equal to men, it was about making women men.

>>51829083
why have a baby when you can buy a fucking monkey

>>51805387
>Would you be upset if your oshi wanted a hysterectomy?
dont care

>>51823656
I wonder how many times historically there have been mass die-offs of women who collectively decided not to have children. I'm not convinced this is a novel phenomena, it's probably cyclic; women are 'told' for generations to have kids, and it builds up genetic cruft. You end up with a mass of women who aren't having kids because they instinctively feel it from their genetics, but because it's just the done thing. How many times has this situation reoccurred?

>>51805387
My oshi is going through menopause.

>>51805697
I don't understand why people would rather have other people be terrible parents than just leave them be with their choice to not have kids, the human race isn't dying out, we don't need every single person to be a breeding machine

>>51829083
But the divorce rate in America is higher at 41% and if you go into second marriages it’s somehow higher still. Nearly 70% of said divorce is now initiated by woman so that anons point stands about being mothers or housewives

>>51824181
Nursing homes are a meme.

>>51815164
>having a child isn't selfish
kys, I didn't ask to be born in this world

>>51807356
>>51827469
They reproducte like virus; they hijack positions in systems that can influence younger people (teaching, mass media etc) and propagate their agenda from there, converting normal humans into their kind, which in turn go on to do the same.

>all these people seething because women don't want to have children

Wanting a hysterectomy doesn't just mean she doesn't want kids, it also means she wants to get creampied without having to worry about it. For that reason it might upset me.

>>51832021
>it might upset me
>it might upset me that women I don't even know personally are having sex with other people than me
vt chuds are so deranged lol

>>51832021
>Wanting a hysterectomy doesn't just mean she doesn't want kids
It literally does since it can't be reversed

pregnancy can be very traumatic or even dangerous, some women just die because their bodies can't handle it. so knowing that they just opt out.
there's women who know and understand that they will never be able to afford to take care of kids, or they're aware that they don't have the mental capacity to go through with raising an entire human life (post-partum depression) thus saving a child from poverty and a mother who loathes them.
just saying not everyone needs to pump out babies, some women just make terrible moms and sparing a child from that experience is a good thing imo (chuba in OPs pic)
also adoption is always an option for ladies who really end up regretting their hysterectomy, i'm sure there's lots of orphans out there who'd like a nice home.

>>51805387
My oshi already stated she wants kids someday

>>51833413
Finana should not be allowed to reproduce for the good of mankind.

Women are garbage

>>51833733
My strong genes are going to compensate for her retarded genes

>>51814714
Happy Hanukkah!

(I know it’s bait)

>>51807506
The faster they remove themselves from the genepool the better

>>51831705
You just said having children makes people miserable, how could it be selfish?

>>51821621
Right wing whites out breed them.

>>51805387
I will love it! everyday full of raw sex! what can be better? and if I need kids I just impregnate another girl

>>51829083
Japanese birth rates are the same as white people. The only reaon the birth rate in the West is stable is because White people's brilliant solution was to mass import people of other races to replace them. More than 50% of all births last year in the US were to non-whites for the first time.

>>51831151
It's funny to me that you think women would have had any choice in the past.

>>51832119
Whores destroy the fabric of society.

>>51834616
>>51836425

>>51821486
>It's about it being a fantasy for men only.
Porn for women ("romance novels") is like 90% about rape.

>>51805387
This is literally a nothingburger.

>>51831320
There is nothing new under the sun. If this stupidity is happening now, spawned from human nature, it's no doubt happened many times before. Hint: there's been plenty of matriarchal civilisations in the past, even in Europe. Hint #2: We know very little about them and why they didn't last long.

>>51839618
meant for >>51836528

>>51839618
"Matriarchal" doesn't really mean what people think it means, it just means that children's ancestry is traced by mother. And these societies existed for a really, really long time, most of humanity's history actually.

>>51836655
Again, there's more nuance to it than that. Liberal whites are well below replacement, something like 0.9 iirc. Conservative whites however are comfortably above replacement levels. Then you've got the white mormons in Utah having like 10 kids each. The problem is self-correcting: demographics are destiny, and liberalism is getting itself systematically exterminated because their women don't want kids.

>>51805868
Do you really want mentally ill women raising children?

>>51805387
Hysterectomy? No. Abortion? I'd denounce her on the spot.

>>51839797
>because their women don't want kids.
but theyll raise your kids in their ways :)

>>51805387
I just think it's retarded to get something as permanent as a hysterectomy, even if you're 100% convinced you will never want kids, when we have plenty of highly effective contraception methods, especially when combining multiple.
Right now, I am like 90% sure I will never want kids. But I'm still never gonna get a vasectomy, cuz I might change my mind someday, and BC + condoms is perfectly fine in the meantime. And vasectomies are even able to be reversed in most cases, unlike hysterectomies.
Plus, women with opinions like picrel always have a tinge of feminist girlboss ideology attached to them, which is it's own issue. And I wouldn't make a woman like that my oshi.

>>51805387
if you don't want to get pregnant you could just not be a whore but that seems to be a hard thing to do for most women

>>51826367
You neeed a special kind of brain to enjoy vtubing, its honestly a weird mix, streaming is supposed to be appealing cuz you get to watch someone being themselves, vtubers however have to put up a persona, even if they dont rp much they all hide behind an avatar, anime is supposed to be fantasy, chubas cant achieve that cuz they work without a script and their personalities and personal issues will sooner or later shine throug.
So its a pretty fucking weird niche

>>51805697
Who cares? Sit back, relax and enjoy as these women who turned their nose up at the average guy, who had every opportunity still found a way to be alone and miserable. Schadenfreude is delicious and she will 100% want kids, I know because my co-workers are older women who now seethe that they aren't married in their late 30s despite admitting they didn't want to get married when they were younger.

>>51805697
who cares, let them get mutilated and if they regret it later so what
these kinds of people shouldn't be reproducing

>>51845543
Chuubas deserve everything they get. They play idols. They're the center of attention and worship. Money flows to them freely, all they have to do is keep the facade.
Those that slip up get caught in very human elements that destroy their idol image. The good attention that came to them turns to negative attention just as easily. But nobody put the spotlight on them but themselves.
Easy come, easy go.

>>51805387
No

Is this the best type of thread you people can generate? Extra comment sections for inane and barely relevant offsite discussions?
...well, not having children is based, not because it allows the youth to epicly dodge responsibility and be sluts(gender neutral term) but because bringing more people into existence is suffering, for everyone, both delayed and immediate.
Even if you ask boomers why you should procreate, they just ramble on about "god's plan" or continuation of bloodlines. Nothing besides tradition or anthropic instinct.

>>51832146
Reread what you quoted

my gf said shed be willing to get her tubes tied cuz shes addicted to raw cock sex with me and wants to get creampied. i never thought id have a conversation like this and im not mentally equipped

>>51845543
I was talking about the posts I was replying to, they are part of this board too

>>51805387
>>51805697
houseplant syndrome, girls that have never really fully matured and just exist to be taken care of by someone more responsible

generally it's a socialization issue, these girls were less socialized than other girls their age so they weren't able to adapt to a fulfilling life
they are the other side of the gendered coin that men, especially the men here on /vt/, suffer from, stunted growth

>>51854093
raw sex is literally meaningless if there is no potential in having kids, you mind as well tickle each other instead

>>51805387
hysta what

>>51840111
Frankly, most women are mentally ill.

>>51854800
it's where they remove the womb, turning a woman into a very sad creature

It's very telling that the immediate response people have to others saying "maybe you shouldn't get an irreversible surgery based on your current feelings" is that this means they immediately have to have someone jizz inside them 15 times and carry a full term pregnancy. There are a million and one ways to avoid that scenario even without irreversible options

Shouldn't they call it a hersterectomy?

>>51855613
anon please put a garbage bag over your head and tape it shut

>>51805697
Those women have bought into the feminist lie that rampant promiscuity will make them happier than if they were to marry and have children. Horribly sad but many people can't resist a lifetime of constant propaganda.

>>51805387
From my experience, women who said that they don't want children tend to be the one who regret it the most a decade later.
It's like, people change (surprise surprise!) but some decisions are irreversible.

>>51855476
Why would someone want that?

>>51856290
To be fair, a lot of vtubers have husbands and boyfriends despite it being completely counter intuitive
Having other men give you money and rewarding them with attention always ends badly for sustaining a relationship, look at Amouranth

I have to blame the men in this situation, women just don't know any better and are easily susceptible to easy money, as a man you shouldn't be trying to make money off your woman because that's a woman that will eventually leave you for the man that has all the money

>>51856479
sometimes it's cancer, cysts, etc
since you no longer have periods, some women get it just for that, even though they usually need the excuse that ovarian cancer is a risk in their family

>>51805387
that means she wants to join weekly orgies without any possible liabilities

>>51805854
Sadly learning the hard way will never undo what they've done to their bodies.

>>51807506
It's better to let it happen
if they were so retarded this young, they will still be retarded after 30 and worse yet will put a child in the world that will grow up to be retarded like them
keep in mind the whoredom of today is not a majority despite what society/media make it look, is just that when they are whores is blatant and on your face

>>51856520
>easily susceptible to easy money
It's not gender specific thing anon. When you're given a chance to get easy money you obviously going to take it too.

>>51856479
>>51856564
My mom had to have one done when she got uterine cancer

>>51856906
>>51807506
One of the things you realize as you grow older and get experience with women is how incredibly childish women are and in a vacuum with no strong male presence in the lives how self-destructive their thought processes are.

I'm not saying you should be simping for every retarded woman on earth, but most women can actually be saved from themselves, they practically 180.

>>51857001
That's why I'm criticizing the boyfriends here, they are milking their girlfriend for money and it always backfires because some richer guy eventually comes around and says he'll buy the whole cow

Marketing your girlfriend/wife to other men is like a divorce speedrun

>>51856804
This is why there's already a prediction that in 30 years there will be a generation of old bitter single women. I don't know what aging zoomers will deal with that but I guess newer younger generations will see how their elderly act and shun feminism as a result.

>>51857026
Then it's fine to do that. What people complaining here are healthy women who did it so they can go wild.

>>51831705
what won't you take your own advice since you didn't want to be born?

>you don't understand periods are yucky and I need to have sex with strangers without consequences
>you HAVE to destroy my endocrine system NOW you fucking fascist
I wish I was a doctor
I'd rip out their baby bags for free just to remove them from the gene pool and watch them need to take hormones replacement therapy or develop osteoporosis at 35

>>51833972
you're on vt with us, your may genes be strong but also retarded too

>>51857058
True. People are going to mald when you say this to them but what you said is true. I don't believe this is the case 100% of the time, not every guy is always going to know what is best for every woman in every circumstance, but it is still generally true enough that it makes a good rule of thumb.

>>51832379
Don't use Senchou for your retarded chink propaganda

i have pcos so my chances carrying to full term is probably challenging to impossible. but honestly if you are scared of pregnancy or just don't want kids--yeah, maybe wait a few years. but if you do get your tubes tied, you can always adopt older kids like 12+. they tend to be adopted less than babies and im sure being in a home where you're welcomed than a nuisance or a burden will be more nurturing

>>51829083
yeah and they have a higher ratio of whores for their population size.
have you seen the amount of whores on fc2?
the japanese are worse, they’re just better at hiding it

>>51831705
Nobody's stopping you from leaving it.

>>51829083
Well the majority of your country has high education they are less likely to have kids early, simply cause they know how fucked up life gonna be if they do so

>>51846336
Everyone should be reproducing. If your "stock" had anything to do with your ability to be product, nation states would not wax and wane in power. The only thing you get by having people in your country not have kids is a weaker future because your population cannot keep up by 2050. The only way the west will lose relevance is population decline, that's why "child free," and describing babies as fucking parasites, is bring pushed specifically to western women.

>>51808616
It's not always easy to have friends for Christmas
Even when you succeeded in making good friends, most of them will pick their own family
Even when you're invited to another family's Christmas event, it will be quite awkward because for most of them you're just a stranger
You having a bunch of single friends together? It could work, but not always. Keeping friendship, especially genuine friendship is hard, especially in a big city
Especially when you're not a college kid anymore

>>51858246
Well, Japanese govt recently (like, last month) gave more subsidies for people who have children
So saying that it will be miserable are just zoomers thinking.

>>51858246
Do you idiots not realize how much worse the collapsing population dead civilization route is for everyone?

>>51858807
They were born with a piggy bank and their first instinct is to smash and steal from it

>>51858949
They'll suffer the worst though
I'll be so old I can just kms without worry
Zoomers? Gonna be watching everyone starve, die to stuff that wasn't a threat 5 years ago like a bad knee scrape, and roving cannibal rape gangs.

>>51805387
Her in 10 years. Gonna be hilarious for everyone other than her.

>>51859757
/HAG/ Is going to be eating good

>>51805697
Zeitgeist and the modern womanchild.

>>51854093
Begone, fornicator.

>>51806210
And the sad thing is western women in the 90s have way more class than this.
It's like, when they demand freedom, they went overboard with it.

>>51805387
God damn what a waste of two pussies. The men that is dumb enough to marry these selfish bitches has to be a monster as they are to keep that marriage going. And if they decide to adopt I hope they are asked question upon questions before they're able to brainwash that kid(s) with how they think.

>>51856290
Not everyone wants kids retard.

>>51861082
Yaaas kween sleigh

>>51857058
>>51857786
You sound the same as the retarded femcels that say this same shit you said, but reverse the genders. You need to just talk to women, and get off this board.

>>51861158
Are you 12, or actually retarded?

>>51832379
tf this has to do with Marine? Her big ass and hips can deliver my babies.

>>51832379
I WILL SAVE HER

>>51833972
If you're white you don't have "strong genes".

>>51805387
I in my 30s feel like my 20s were my teens part 2. neither my career nor my tastes nor my opinions are the same, they all changed or matured. i can't imagine my self in my 40s how cringe thinking about my 30s will make me.

>>51836595
It's the white man who allowed their white women to think this way. Blame yourselves.

>>51839618
Even if they have matriacharl's it's false regardless of their ignorance as this is typically done by pagan's as matriarchal's do not have lineages. Patriarchal are the only ones that do. In war ages ago the unmarried women would be saved to be a maid to the other nation maybe even wed to one while a boy could be enslaved and sold but if boy was an adult usually they were killed especially if they were married to a women both would be killed or just the male while the widow gets sold as a slave.

The unmarried women who belonged to the nation that lost would help the males who won to populate the nation by bringing forth children and continue not only their nation but the lineages of the men. Nobody ever says a female's lineage can be blotted out because as I already wrote women do not have lineages, it's only said to the men.

>oshi
>western shit

>>51839780
Which is why many of it is illegitimate. Women cannot pass down lineages whatsoever. The entire thing is absurd since it's the man who brings life not the woman. She only gives birth.

>>51854093
Don't convince her to do it. My dad got my mom tubes tied out of selfishness and she's had issues since. It's safer for the man to get his tube cut then tying a woman's tubes. So if you don't want that she needs to get use to the feeling of rubbers as I would not want my woman to take birth control pills either because who knows what it fucking does to her body let alone her brain and mental state.

>>51860151
That's not what a fornicator means retard. Fornicator means to have sex without the means to get married. It also means to have sex with animals, have orgies, faggot or lesbian sex and so forth.

>>51854093
Also that's not your girlfriend. That's your wife when you two decided to have sex you engaged in marriage as that is what it literally means, sex is marriage. Not some retarded ceremony or piece of paper saying you got married. If people knew this they would have more value when it comes to sex and who it's with but because adultery is not taken seriously and people aren't dying people don't take the value of sex serious.

>>51805697
nuWomen hate responsibilities

>>51815962
>Written by a suburban kid who never have crack addict friend.

>>51816208
This is actually what happened lol. The author of Sex and The City actually regret choosing her career over having children
https://www.news24.com/you/celebs/sex-and-the-city-creator-says-she-regrets-choosing-her-career-over-having-children-20190731
She's part of the new wave of feminism. She screwed a lot of women for her short gained "muh freedom"

You are not entitled to your kids love by the way.
Its perfectly fine for them to throw you into a retirement home as soon as they can since you were inconsiderate enough yourself to have them in the first place.

>>51821486
You need to read more female romance novels and shoujo manga.
For example, Kaikan Phrase is about a a high school girl that have a popular singer as a boyfriend. Most of the sex scenes were him forcing himself to her, manipulating her to move in with him and even some of the band members get some action with her as well lol.
Also Kareshi Kanojo no Jijyo (manga version) the male protag got mad and raped his gf in a library and she got pregnant afterward. The worst part is the fact everyone seems fine with her teen pregnancy and make it like it's nothingborgar.

Female authors are fucking degenerate

>>51822054
This is the same as people who said that playing violent video games will make you violent IRL

>>51859757
>Talking about being single and desperate while using screenshot from Bridget Jones movie
This is fucking hilarious.

So does anyone in this thread actually watch Grapechann or Bat?

>>51822093
>Imagine calling someone that share half of your DNA and if you raise them right they will love you and treat you well when you're old
But you will never do that will you. There will be no love from a child that you already call a parasite the moment he/she is still in your womb.

>>51824015
>Around 10,000 years ago
[CITATION FUCKING NEEDED]

>>51824627
>>51825184
>Keep saying that this came from scientists
>Never give proper links for sauce
>Pretty much "TRUST ME BRO"

>>51827469
Yep, this. Degeneracy not going to die, but it's always limited by social rules and laws.
It's always funny to see how USA is a big UAE supporter and ally but they still silent about pushing their woke agenda in UAE.

>>51845667
Yep. This is actually what I noticed with that youtuber Let Me Explain Studio.
In one of her early video she's talking about how she call herself as "girlfriend fairy" because men dating her for a short time and broke up with her and hooked up with other woman later. She thought those men using her as training tool to learn how to get close to the woman they actually want.
Then years later she made a video about a guy who asking her for a date and genuinely interested in her (he even act like her) and yet she rejected him, not even giving him a chance for a first date.

The more I watched her videos, she sounds like a self centered girl and going to be alone and miserable when she hit menopause.

>>51814027
why did you mention two friends if you only told us what happened to one?

>>51805387
I'm a 32 year old virgin. I couldn't touch a woman to save my life lol

How the fuck did this retarded thread reach 300 posts. You cunts are insufferable.

>>51805387
Any chuba who wants this is a confirmed whore, you can't have kids if you don't have sex.
https://youtu.be/xLypnV8hs_c?t=62

>>51822215
>STOP HAVING FUN!!

>>51866582
I mean technically you could, they wouldn't necessarily be pleased about it though

Thanks for showing me a twitter post

>>51805387
Just use a fucking condom, how hard can that be? That's how you know those are some STD ridden cunts doing it bareback every chance they get.

>>51814714
Damn, someone doesn't like looking in the mirror. Are you okay?

call me the joker because I’m seeing a lot of seething bats here

>>51870156
she’s the only one I’ve seen ever call wanting to be a father a breeder fetish so you can tell it’s her crying over it

>>51805387
I would respect their opinion if girls like this didn’t drop it the moment chad comes into her life and then leaves her a single mother

>>51805387
Insta drop.

>>51854678
So you’re saying you have a breeding fetish?

>>51805697
at least when the hit their mid-life crisis it always brings entertaining breakdowns over not being able to start a family.

>>51874362
They will fail to see it that way and it'll be everyone else's fault they are unhappy. I guarantee it.

Alright Bat, after Mari I’m waiting for you to slip up next.

>>51822393
>>51823012
>>51825832
>>51824700
Suicide is unironically the ultimate expression of freedom. If you don't have control or ownership of your own self, you have no control or ownership of nothing.

>inb4 the kys comments
For those who choose to take this path, it is the greatest form of self-determinism possible. I don't want to kill myself, but I would never deny someone else the freedom to die, especially under peaceful lab conditions.

>>51807356
>>51827469
>>51864551
I miss the days when /pol/ actually served its purpose as a containment board, and their moronic drivel didn't seep into the cracks of all the other boards on this site and beyond.