/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

It was worse, anon. Far worse
https://twitter.com/EngVTubersOOC/status/1405300584002031616

>>5203291
Kiara had a gun to her head, she threatened to sing Pomf Pomf live if she did anything funny or entertaining

https://youtu.be/re1zknPr2uk

Was it part of her plan to get thoroughly mogged in both conversation and game? If so, it failed spectacularly. Unless it was her fetish to get dominated by someone she idolizes, I'm not sure how any of this benefited her.

Nyanners exposed for having no friends and a dead cancer daddy by Kiara. Hopefully Mori makes fun of the dying girl for the next collab

>>5203451
Bridge building. You dont alienate a giant jap corpo that you want to mix with more. She was probably also given guidelines on collab rules if Cover curates as hard as i suspect Kiaras already comfortable with boundaries and constraints after 9 months with Cover, Nyanners had to filter.

KFP so quick to jump into coping mode so that they wont get the same treatment as braps got last week, it's cute.

>>5203291
Probably too afraid to say anything with you schizos breathing down her neck.

>>5203291
>I just watched this mumbling idiot get bullied for an hour.
That's what made it good. Pink cat getting bullied is good content and enjoyable for both nyanners haters and nyanners fans.

>>5203591
Isn't Nyanners supposed to be the face of vshojo? Why can't she adapt? That seems like a crappy excuse to me. Where are her skills as an entertainer? Given her total lack of enthusiasm and presence, might as well had invited a brick to the collab instead.

So Kiara was awful as always but can anyone tell me if Nyanners is always this.. low energy? I only watch Melody as far as V-shojo goes so I know next to nothing about Nyanners except the pomf thing.

>>5203591
I mean there's having to filter and then there's acting like some mumbling autist that can barely stutter out full sentences.

>>5203591
Cover doesn't regulate shit, other than giving the most basic guidelines, like "don't talk about roommates". Common sense stuff. Nyanners is just a very meek person, she only gets energetic when she's comfortable, and she was the opposite of comfortable in such a big first-time collab.
She's also a huge masochist, she enjoys being laughed at.

>>5203726
>>5203766
I havent watched her outside of maybe an hour or so im just speculating but being essentially the first major collab between Cover and a large western vtuber group puts pressure she isnt used to or is a socially awkward person with those she is unfamiliar with and needs time to open up.

>>5203726
>Isn't Nyanners supposed to be the face of vshojo?
Not really, she just happens to be the biggest one and Mouse and Veibae are pretty close to her in numbers anyway.

>>5203761
No, Nyanners was in extreme anxiety mode in this stream.
She's always like this when she collabs with new people. Her first meetings with Mousey and Melody were like this too.

>>5203850
>other than giving the most basic guidelines, like "don't talk about roommates".
I don't think everyone in Hololive got this memo..

>>5203955
Well, I have no idea what she's like solo, but my first impression is that she really blows at collabs. Not sure what Kiara was thinking.

Takanashi "Your Daddy Is Dead Now Gimme Some Head" Kiara

>>5203850
Cover is pretty strict now, which is why Coco is leaving.

Did she mention her thoughts on Korea?
https://files.catbox.moe/ynk5o9.webm

>>5203435
Stop shilling your shitty clipnig channel every thread. At least turn it into a streamable newfag

I don't get it. You wanted her to be completely destroyed and she was. Yet you're still complaining.

>>5204457
Uh oh, I think we need to cancel Nyanners

>>5203761
she definitely had a gun to her head this stream. im sure they'll open up more as they get more familiar with the group they collab with and cover's expectations.

>>5203761
Nah she's never like this

>>5203291
Imagine spamming this dumb bitch constantly, gloating about this collab, fighting with purityfags and schitzos or whatever else. Then when it finally happens she's one of the most boring, unentertaining streamers I've ever seen, to the point where the worst holoEN outshines her.

Is this really the best vshoujo has to offer? Will dumb niggers stop arguing about this brick wall constantly now?

>>5203761
cute girls make my wife nyanners very nervous because she suffers from latent lesbianism, please understand

>shit there was nothing to rage about in the stream better pick literally anything so I can continue to feel the only emotion left in my husk of a human soul, anger

>>5206699
I'm sorry you're blinded by your simping. The collab was not good. Kiara needs someone she can bounce off, not some dull sperg that silenty takes it.

>>5203333

I dunno, I thought the head lice joke was kinda funny.

>>5203333
Nice.

>>5203291
It's almost like Cover's collapsing under the weight of their own mismanagement.

>>5203451
>Unless it was her fetish to get dominated by someone she idolizes,
Probably true. No matter how much she tries to deny it, she will always be one of us.

>>5204082
Solo she is mostly thinking out loud and finding ways to entertain herself. She probably the most introverted out of all of VShojo and does not do well with people she hasn't collab'ed or sat in a discord call for 10 hours before.

>>5203761
No. This is the worst i've seen her.

>>5218611
Have you fucking seen how she behaves in VR chat? Nyanners is a complete submissive.

Collab was fun. Nothing bad happened so antis call it boring instead. Just get a life.

VShojo is trolling Hololive by making the collab stream boring

>>5220264
>>5220136
This is some next level Vshojotard cope

>>5203291
While we're on the topic of Vshojo, how would a 4-way collab between Mori, Iron Mouse, Connor, and Kiara go?

>>5203761
she's pregnant

>>5204576
i unironically dislike nyanners less than shitbird

>>5203291
Reminder that unlike autistic girls from Hololive, Vshoujos are normies. They are artifically making their "sense of humor" by acting lewd same way as teenager does it by acting edgy.
They laughed at retards like us that wanted parasocial relationship couple months ago, but now they found that we can give our oshi a lot of money, so they are trying to take something from that.
Don't forget to dislike a video to give Cover statement that we don't want to see bitches that only want attention and money without giving anything back.
I have nothing against Kiara and I understand that she wants to find more friends, but this is about honor of a retard

>>5203435
Based, that was probably the best bit

>>5220590
You do know autistic channer girls exist outside of Japan right?... I find Nyanners streams boring as fuck but you are delusional.
The only reason her vtuber career took off is because she was a notorious /a/ shitposter a decade ago.

>>5203435
>Nyanners trying to laugh off the friends comment
>Kiara trying to comfort her by saying she didn't have many friends either but then immediately goes back into bragging about knowing the games
>that whimpered 'no' when Kiara asks about family
>Kiara's immediate realization and going quiet
>they both start laughing and change the subject back to the game immediately after

Jesus Christ

>>5203435
Germanic people are so blunt, even by western standards.

>>5203435
>>5221321
>>5221885
The best bit was that moment:
>was that your first song!? :D
>k-kinda... haha
Ouch, how? It isn't even intentional but she just has this power. She will instinctively crush you while still making you comfortable with it. Kiara is scary.

People kept talking about how Kiara is the gate to Hololive, since she's easy to approach and wants so bad to make friends, and how it's through her that the slippery slope will begin. But it's more like she's the trap in front of the gate that will break anyone that tries to get too close.

>>5221998
>>5222130
At this point I don't think Kiara is intentionally, but her ESL ignorance
Is this a thing with germans being overly blunt?
I used to know an austrian girl who also used to ask questions with sometimes soul-crushing implications with the straightest face, but it always felt like it was out of pure curiosity and no malice

this is now a bullying thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LipCSKsz_Io

>>5222231
bluntness yields results. instead of dancing around 3 layers of pleasantries/fake interest, just ask and answer directly.

>>5222231
Kiara is sociable but awkward, honest but blunt, sweet but dorky and loud.

Which describes the germanic girls I knew well, no matter how well you think you are hiding your weak points, they will still somehow hit you there, even if they don't know who you are and it's your first time ever meeting them. I swear it's some /x/ shit.

>>5203291
Vaxx fried her brain

Nyanderthals

>>5222130
Nyanners isn't wrong about it not being her first song. She did some meme songs in 2017 and did the vocals for Magic Circuit. I don't think she really considers those as being her "first" songs though.

>>5203291
>Where are the jokes? Where is the banter?
At hololive jp where the girls actually know how to talk to each other and have more than just basic social skills. All of holo en are awkward as fuck and dont know how to keep a conversation going.

>>5221998
>>5222231

Germans tend to be more direct compared to other western cultures and don't beat around the bush as much, when they want to make a point. But I feel even from a German point of view, Kiara's behaviour comes of quite dickish and rude at times like in yesterday's collab. Sure, she's really outgoing and likes to socialize and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. But her ability to pick up social cues is lacking and she acted around pink cat like they were already BFF and therefore immediately engaging in heavy banter instead of taking it easy for the first collab between them or HoloEN and VShojo in general. It might be different behind the scene, but during the collab you could clearly see and hear that pink cat's was nervous as fuck and simply couldn't keep up with Kiara's pacing at all.

Tl;dr: Kiara likes to be outgoing, and that's fine, but she should learn to adjust her sensor for social cues better since she comes off as a bitch even by German standards.

>t. Kraut

I'm worried about you guys. Will you ever mature past this?

>>5224245
don't forget, you're here forever.

>>5224185
The bullying was clearly scripted retard

>>5203291
At present the Kiara's vod is at 260k which is quite a bit more than her average so the collab was a success whatever the weirdos here think.
Nyanners is the biggest of vshojo and the biggest vtuber on twitch. She might be meek and mild but I doubt if anybody in this thread is making bank like she is.

>>5224245
If you mean checking in once a day to watch monkeys throw shit I guess

What's this about Kiara being German I thought she was Austr*an

>>5203627
this

>>5203291
Take away the toilet humor and lewd weeb jokes from Nyanners and this is what you get. "U-Umm... hehe... Umm..."

>>5224674
That's western girls in general. If they dont have "muh vagina" or poopoopeepee jokes to rely on they just collapse in themselves.

>>5224471
>b-but the numbers
And? She was still a low energy dullard and brought nothing to the collab but her brand. She's not exempt from critique because of her numbers you know.

>>5224598
She’s actually Australian, but raised in Austria.

>>5224598
Do you really expect all the Ameritards here to know the difference?

>>5224836
Follow Koopa on Twitch

>>5224897
she's Austrialian?

>>5224471
>biggest vtuber on twitch
That would be Bahroo, Nyanners is second. Vei or Ironmouse probably third.

>>5224936
show funny clip

>>5224471
the video also has a bunch of dislikes but let's actually ignore that.
in general collabs will get a lot more views then solo streams, i think every collab an en girl had with any of their senpais actually had better numbers then nyanners.
yes, a collab stream did better then a solo stream of EN's weakest member (kiara just has the lowest numbers on everything but superchats, it is what it is i don't even intend it as a dig) but that's not much by collab standards.

>>5224993
Ironmouse is bigger than Nyanners (just not on YT) and is on OG Vtuber. Bahroo doesn't even count, jumping on the V-bandwagon for views and clout like Pokimane.

>>5225438
>jumping on the V-bandwagon for views and clout like Pokimane.
That's exactly what Nyanners did though, she used to be a camstreamer. Didn't even rebrand.

>>5225438
Bahroo is based though, unlike Vshojo

>>5203561
you really think Mori is capable of handling IronMouse in such a manner? A boricua with a tongue that is as sharp as a knife? Mori will be the one getting bodied if anything.

>>5203291

>>5225575
I didn't say Nyanners is any better. We all know Steel Rat is the only redeeming factor of Vshojo.

>>5225637
Oh nooo a vtuber is gonna lose $5 a month how can she ever recover

>>5225708
are they wrong tho? I doubt the average penis lenght of /vt is that high

>>5225580
I don't know about based but he's alright and tolerable.

>>5225637
i wonder how many people actually will stop their membership/superchats.
there's gonna be a lot of people saying they will, but i think most of them never liked her to begin with.

>>5225749
/vt/ penis is bigger then average because we're all black.

>>5225749
Make a thread on /soc/ and I'll post my dick there.

>>5225749
the women lurking here are statistical outliers and are bringing the average down

>>5225784
i cancelled mine for now

>>5225844

So Kiara was an annoying loudmouth and Nyanners was a nervous hyperventilating mess. Anyone who even remotely knows the two would know that's how it would've went from the start. The real show should be Saturday. Though I wish it was anyone but Mori collabing with IronMouse.

>>5225580
>>5225763
Bahroo is a sellout who constantly shit on Atlas about how terrible a game it was when it first came out, he then gets sponsored by them and the next stream he's gushing about how great it is.

He got hard called out on this but it's left the impression he's never to be trusted on this shit again. Also fuck bandwagoners.

>>5225979
damn what a bitch. I take everything I said about him back.

>>5224598
Austria is rightful German clay. They didn't join Germany because of all the Slavic and Magyar baggage they had at the time of the Unification, but now that they're free from that it's only a matter of time before the annexation of Austria, as well as of The Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg, Switzerland, Lichtenstein, Alsace-Lorraine, and the former Prussian territories around the Baltic.

>>5225946
mori can have good collabs, most of her bad collabs were in japanese and she's getting more comfortable there.
i'm not guaranteeing the 2 in the pink collab will be great, but it should be okay.

>>5226180
You crying about your lebensraum again, Fritz?

>>5222130
>Was that your first song :D
BASED. She totally knows
ORANGE WOMAN LOVE

How would you judge Nyanners today without knowing about her past?

>>5226180
stop jerking off to your history book Hans, go back to reality where you get dicked by french niggers at your national sport

>>5226347
i like that compilation/remix of her saying monkey but otherwise she's super boring

>>5226347
she's has nothing to offer. she isn't interested in anything or interesting to listen to.

>>5226347
She was undeniably dull here.

>>5226216
should be decent with some chance that it might be really really good. If IronMouse has to take her meds before or during it then it would be pure chaos. She gets really loopy and her inner boricua starts coming out real strong.

>>5226347
she is not horrible, her Truck simulator streams got some chuckles out of me, but she doesnt feel outstanding, even in Vshojo Mousey, Silvervale and Zentreya can be more entertaining(by twitch streamer standards) but like, she isnt horrible

>>5226347
>How would you judge Nyanners today without knowing about her past?
Boring
0 Charisma, how is she a streamer

>>5225749
/vt/ has a decent female userbase, which brings the average down.

>>5226347
The e-girl I was jerking off to was Rose so I never really had much knowledge of Nyanners aside from "that girl who did pomf". When I started watching vtubers I got recommended her fall guys compilation and she strikes me as someone who was raised by a shithole like 4chan and now wants to integrate back into the more normie circles of Twitch but unable to completely grow out of the identity.

>>5226347
She is creative and does some good content. She also occasionally does interesting high effort bits like the clone streams. I can't deny that.

>>5226180
UGH... what could have been...
Mein großgermaniums imperialis... free of niggers and kikes and mean brown kids who bully me in school...

>>5226918
You will never become Lamy

>>5226347
I watched her and dropped her after she started reacting exclusivly to videos on stream and stopped doing any good content.
Seems like she at least plays some games again.
She will still forever be the pink fag and I wont pay her a single dime
Except if she does JOI. If she does JOI you will find me under the table suckeling on that clit all night long

>>5227155
Newfag here, just what is JOI?

>>5222452
Girls bullying each other is so satisfying

>>5203291
State propaganda isn't meant to be funny or entertaining.

>>5203291
She went back to being cringe once the collab was over

>>5227492
she tells you when to, and how quickly you can touch your peepee

>>5225708
dangerously based

>>5226918
>and mean brown kids

sounds like some bucks need to be broken

>>5226487
oh she's more chaotic with meds? i'd have thought they'd make her sleepy.

>>5226918
Post the real image next time

>>5203726
Nyanners' one schtick is towing the line with her uwu voice and little girl avatar. Once she can't do that she is fucked, she has no charisma. All of her success is due to novelty rather than skill.

>>5226347
Tried to watch her once, personally, her humor is cringe, it’s like watching the combination of a hyperactive toddler and a horny teenager

>>5204541
>I won't watch clips!
>Unless it's a streamable, then I love it!

>>5227688
she does get lethargic for about a minute or two depending on the strength I assume but then she starts lisping and has a very weirdly wired brain for some time. I know we all hate Cdawg here but if you watch any of her collabs with him you'll see it. People also think she can be bullied by Mori like Kiara walled Nyanners which is hilarious considering she is from puerto rico. They practically roast eachother their whole lives and unlike Nyanners Mouse got a very sharp tongue.

>>5227551
This I understood, I mean the exact wording of the abbreviature.

>>5226180
>They didn't join Germany because of all the Slavic and Magyar baggage they had at the time of the Unification
They most of all didn't join Germany because they had a Monarchy of their own who arguably had a better claim to ruling a greater German Empire than the Lutheran, Swabian backwater House of Hohenzollern.

>>5226347
Didn't watch the stream so I couldn't say. I'd praise her for being good at working with the YouTube algorithm

>>5227155
I want Nyanners to tell me to coat her flat chest with cum
>>5228161
Jewish Outreach Institute
Jerk Off Instructions

>>5203291
Kiara kept doing that thing where she would try to raise other conversation topics while they were playing, which she only does when a collab is going poorly and she can tell the audience is bored. She did it like five times in an hour.

>>5228465
I would agree but Kiara is literally the type of C-list celeb who thinks a second of dead air is bad. Sometimes less is more and pacing is everything.

>>5203435
>autists on /vt/ won't recgonize that this is a joke
I realized that almost everyone on this board is too young to recognize improvisational comedy.

>>5228667
> who thinks a second of dead air is bad
She is correct, though. Dead air adds nothing but discomfort. Kiara did everything she could here.

>>5228781
sorry but it is correct. Only amateur comedians and poor entertainers think that filling every second of your performance with words and energy is good. Something else which is a professional practice is learning how to tandem with your partner/s. Filling the time with more of yourself is terrible practice. And learning how to open up a nervous or shy partner is entertainment 101. Your Theatre and Drama grad. Not that I would expect anything like that from a YT Vtuber but s

>>5226347
It depends how far and how much do I know about her. What she did 6 months ago? It would still be the same and I would still hate her if I knew she blocked lolicons and followed antis, but I'll think of her as more of a vtweeter and less of a grifter. And if I didn't know she cancelled Nekopara? I would not care enough about Nyanners. I'd probably think she's just some loli who's just being a loli doing loli things. Basically what the Japanese think about her.

>>5226347
>hates lolis
>promotes SJW garbage
>doesnt care about the industry
The only thing that would change is that I wouldn't know she happily sang "Nigger~ Nigger~"

>>5229176
You have no idea what you are talking about, no concept of the performance style kiara is delivering, no frame of reference. You contribute nothing to this discussion.

>>5225749
Go ask on /adv/ and everyone has a 7 inch penis.

>>5203668
This guy gets it

>>5203761
look at the first collab she did with silver,mousey and mel (its on her youtube). she didnt filter herself as much but holy shit was she nervous

>>5204026
Consider the pre lashing out and the fact that her collab with Kiara is the stepping stone for her entire company to be able to follow and I'd have been surprised to see anything else than an awkward ball. Kiara is based enough to play off it at least.

>>5203291
seething threads are comfy

>>5226918
>lamy transformation degenerates are /gsg/tards
it all makes sense now

>>5229898
seethe KFP
that was entertaining to read unlike the collaboration

>>5203726
pretty sure that she does not have any media field education. kiara is a trained professional and even a total brainlet should be able to see it

>>5203291
This was to be expected. Nyanners is barely containing more spaghetti than the whole of Italy. It takes a while before she's comfortable enough to be herself during a collab. Coupled with it being a collab with Hololive and all the drama leading up to it, you're crazy if you thought we were getting a peepee poopoo gremlin instead of a scared kitten.

>>5230317
So what you're saying is that she basically has no relevant skills and is massively overrated. Seems about right.

>>5203591
what even is vshojo? people talk about the company that is behind hololive all the time but you never see people talk about vshojo like that. it feels like something that just connects these otherwise random girls while cover seems like a company that is actually actively doing something

>>5227790
I watch clips, but I will never give views to clipnigs. Simple as.

>>5230317
>Kiara is a trained professional
I was giving her a pass but if she is... guess you can't teach a chicken how to sing like a nightingale no matter how hard you try

>>5203291
she is a scripter that mean she needs to write his jokes beforehand

>>5228286
cope

>>5230460
Vshojo is purely an agency not associated or owned by a company. Hololive is an agency owned by Cover. Treat it like VOMs excpt instead of Gyari it's Gunrun.

I missed the collab live, what were the live viewership NUMBERS for both the twitch and youtube versions of the stream? Also if anyone knows, how many followers/subscribers did both channels get by the next day? I'm super curious on how the Hololive collaborations will affect the Twitch vtuber market since V-Sho are the gateway that trickles down to almost all EN indies

>>5230737
1500 dislikes even with YouTube deleting bots

>>5230773
No not the disslikes, thats irrelevant, who cares. How many people were watching on Twitch vs YouTube when they were live? Also that number isnt even accurate, the VOD has just over 800 disslikes

>>5230737
22k concurrent viewers Kiara side, 17k Nyan side if my memory is correct. Oh, and 30k likes, but yknow.

>>5230907
14-18k on kiaras vs 4k on nyanners

>>5230504
that would be a separate thing but the way she talks is not normal. she can easily talk nonstop for a hour without even taking breathing breaks

>>5230961
Nyan had 22k too. Kiara had 23k st one point.

>>5230961
Thank you. Thats pretty impressive Nyanners was able to hold that large an audience for it, even when you count that Kiaras live viewership was likely higher than listed aversge due to YouTubes wonderful "feature" of chopping the live count down by 1/3rd to half of its true number

>>5226347
I don't care about her past or her content, I just like her voice and want asmr

>>5230737
>>5230907
>>5230964
Numbers

>>5225222
You're ignoring that an essential single viewpoint collab was streamed on both channels.
Also this collab was literally Nyanners most watched stream ever, it's not exactly comparable with Ina/Pikamee that was only streamed on Ina's channel.
>the video also has a bunch of dislikes
Yes, but they just got bot purged again

>>5203668
5D chess, pink cat played all of us

>>5225637
>no membership badge
That is just embarassing

>>5231082
>due to YouTubes wonderful "feature" of chopping the live count down by 1/3rd to half of its true number
I'm still convinced that's a rrat. I wasn't able to reproduce the "bug" in a short small scale test. At this point I assume the old higher numbers were the bug.

>>5219995
My fucking dick

>>5231226
>angry lolicons resorted to botting dislikes
>even though dislikes are the same as likes and only help to promote a video
I would laugh at how sad that is, but we all knew it was coming.

>>5231061
I think Nyanners numbers went up a fair bit when Kiara's stream crashed

>>5231271
twitch is the one where numbers aren't very accurate. theres a long delay between the update and thats why you can see sudden joins and leaves of thousands viewers

>>5231271
Anon we literally had stream series drop to ~1/2-2/3 their prior viewership from one stream to the next. And that is with VoD views staying consistent.
Everything points towards the current numbers for live viewers being wrong.

>>5231370
I wouldn't know. Kiara's number didn't drop much during the crash though.

>>5221885
The spaghetti was flying everywhere, unironically best Kiara collab since the Peko one.

>>5231379
If YouTube isn't accurate, and Twitch is very inaccurate, then what the fuck is Bilibili? Last time I went on that site it told me there were 10k people watching a touhou gameplay event (which, if you know anything about touhou gameplay, isn't possible).

>>5231435
I'm not saying that nothing happened. I'm saying that the old live numbers being wrong is just as likely as the new ones being wrong. Maybe youtube fixed a bug.

I actually tested this with 3 other people for a few minutes, it's definitely not adblockers like /vt/ claims it is. Viewers with adblockers are currently counted, at least on very small streams.

>>5224245
Don't forget where you are, anon

Nyanners tried to sabotage Kiara by making her look like shit on her stream.

>>5231481
a slow and confusing site

>>5224993
Bahroo more like BahWHO amirite

>>5231542
dammit, I knew I shouldn't have told anons about PM...

>>5231542
I think that was actually Kiara broadcasting her model in low quality to Nyanners.

>>5231542
pretty sure that it was on the other end. i heard that they used discord and that at least once something was changed to make it look better

>>5231513
And I have seen the complete opposite, viewer number showed 3 views, chat had 7 people talking in it concurrently. Or once a streamer had a cytube that was linked in the discription as to avoid the VOD being copywright struck after the fact, and the stream had 21 viewers while the Cytube had 46. It absolutely not a rrat, YouTube is fucking broken spaghetti code and instead of fixing the issue has covered it up and lied profusely about its existence for six months straight.

>>5231513
>I'm saying that the old live numbers being wrong is just as likely as the new ones being wrong. Maybe youtube fixed a bug.
Let's put it like this since it's the main example people recognized the bug on in the first place
Kiara's first Holotalk with Marine
>52k avg viewers
>57k peak viewers
>length 1 hour
>165k views at stream end
Second Holotalk with Fubuki
>32k avg viewers
>35k peak viewers
>length 1.5 hours
>187k views at the end
Which of these sets of numbers look more legitimate?

>>5231825
I don't think small-size tests are really a good indicator. They might highlight:
1. That YouTube only counts a percentage of views, which has an effect on large viewerships (what you are trying to prove)
2. That YouTube is bad at counting every single view accurately, resulting in the loss or addition of a few dozen views at most (equally if not more believable)
You just can't know which it is.

>>5231542
No seriously, why was the stream quality so bad? What the fuck was this idiot cat doing?

>>5231981
I'm not gonna re-tread what other anons have already said, but I will say: please continue to pretend you were watching the collab on twitch, it's very amusing.

>>5231825
The thing is it's definitely not adblockers and I'm still doubting because youtube would fix a bug like that with high priority because lower numbers being shown is actually bad for business when it comes to sponsors and stuff.

>>5231625
gigastacy or ultraretard?
>>5231618
Black Mirror-anon here. You're right, you shouldn't have, I was on it for like 2 hours straight last night lmao.

>>5203291
Based, now pedo lovers found their new oshi known as Kiara

>>5232043
Of course I couldn't watch the twitch pov, it looked like shit.

>>5232066
kek, and another coincidence. There's two edits of the Kiara hand-in-pants pic, the second one made by me because I couldn't find the first one. You can notice the difference because I slightly fucked up merging the layers and there's a visible transition on her right leg (her right, not yours). I swear I'm not responsible for THAT much OC, you're just insanely lucky. also pls stop using my memes to bash pink cat :(

>>5232043
i did that initially but all of the webshit has performance issues with that many viewers so i just ended up loading the youtube stream on mpv. the video quality on both platforms should actually be identical since they both were using avc @ 6k kbps

>>5231981
Cat's stream was in 1080p 60fps and looked completely fine. Only kiara's model was weirdly low quality.

>>5232225
>but all of the webshit has performance issues with that many viewers
Huh, I don't doubt you but I usually get better performances on Twitch than YouTube. How old is your PC, anon?

>>5232255
Some people seem to get better performance on youtube and some get better performance on twitch. Twitch's chat implementation is definitely better at handling many thousands of people though.

>>5232255
pretty old but it can even run fancy graphics games without issues. its only these shitty javascript chats that cause problems. normally twitch would run without issues for me but these special events have too many flooders so both platforms end up performing just as poorly

>>5203435
nyiggers...

>>5232201
>I swear I'm not responsible for THAT much OC, you're just insanely lucky.
MFW this anon ends up being half of my VT folder. Aight I'll stop, but only because you're cool. I think I might have the other rendition, leg looks fine.

>>5232306
I have a feeling YouTube adds every chat message as an HTML element in the page, then just leaves them there forever. Leaving YouTube chat open for more than 10 minute inevitably ruins my otherwise pretty good PC.

will be interesting to see if nyan cancels todays stream

>>5232306
Twitch chat with FrankerfaceZ or whatever else you choose to use will forever >YouTube chat, but LiveTL's "Hyperchat" at least unfucks the performance a bit.

>>5232374
>leg looks fine
look harder

>>5232425
Fucking gangstalkers shit, when did my /vt/ become a Black Mirror episode. GET OUT OF MY STASH ANON.

>>5232411
i wonder what kind of supercomputers the hololive streamers use since they have the chat scrolling on the stream all the time and it gets hundreds of lines per second as long as the stream is on

>>5232385
She already canceled tuesday since she was hungover from her birthday. I will not forgive her if she cancels today too.

>>5232547
im going to be surprised if shes on today. quick recovery from this kind of stuff just isn't her thing

>>5232507
>supercomputers
Kiara definitely isn't using a supercomputer, kek. Her rig choked on the Steam version of NieR: Automata, and pic related.
I don't stream on YT, only Twitch, but I imagine it would depend on how they have chat piped into OBS, no?

>>5203333
>look at us guys we're just like your kawaii kyoani girls!!!
Jesas please never collab with this retard again, Kiara. What little penis length I had shriveled up from the massive amounts of onions emanating from that image.

>>5232656
idk. feels like the stream related stuff runs somewhere else because her stuff crashed and she talked about having to restart everything but the stream never ended. the background thing and chat was there all the time

>>5232656
>that superchat
Somehow all the /vt/ leaking I saw was either pro-nyanners or just ambivalent. It was nice to see.

>>5232905
it takes a special kind of cuck to give someone they don't like money for a negative message that has a 99% chance of getting ignored, better to just turn the adblockers on and spam pomf in the chat

>>5232905
I mean there was that one assmad ARS SC.

>>5233103
I know people post pomf to voice their disapproval, but it's not hurting Nyanners as much as they think. Even Nyanners's friends, like Haruka Karibu, occasionally tease her about pomf and she's able to laugh with them about it.

>>5233210
I saw that one, but I expected way more than one negative SC. Calli's collab with Gigguk got multiple negative SCs. There was a positive akasupa (in actual dollars) from this place too.

>>5222130
Didn't she also ask Amelia about her parents?

>>5221659
And she walked back on all of that.

>>5221659
>The only reason her vtuber career took off is because she was a notorious /a/ shitposter a decade ago.
Indeed, which is why you were so easily able to turn her audience against her and end her career. Wait a minute...

>>5203627
What happened with Mori? I was in coma.

>>5203291
Isn't this what you all wanted? Nyanners the traitor being humilliated by the chicken with low self esteem?

>>5203591
Perhaps she should've started by not shittalking the profession and community as a whole. She's an outsider and a grifter who's only doing this because her voice acting career (and her attempts to sanitize her online personality to enter it) failed spectacularly.
It's clear Nyanners holds nothing but contempt and disdain for her fans and the profession as a whole, it's nothing but a stepping stone to her. As much as I despise that Austrian whore Kiara, she did what needed to be done by thoroughly emasculating that grifter POS.

>>5233891
>Perhaps she should've started by not shittalking the profession and community as a whole
????

>>5233240
links, either way it still has to bother her somewhat because she hasn't unprivated or re-uploaded the video yet

>What's the matter Nyanners, don't you have any friends? Don't you even have a family? Lmao

>>5203981
Mouse is bigger than Nyanners on Twitch. But just by a slither. Unlike Nyanners though Mouse has a steady growth in both followers and pure numberfagging. She might reach 1 million on Twitch in 10 months. Cat will slow down at smth like 600k+

>>5234017
based

>>5203291
I want the nyanners/aqua collab for cringe kino of the century.

>>5203435
Based Austrian.

>>5234017
Takanashi "Dad croaks, time to make jokes" Kiara.

>>5234087
>absolute literalwho surpasses the grifter bitch who spent her whole life building a presence
Why is the mouse so based?

>>5234087
>Mouse is bigger than Nyanners on Twitch.
By what metric?
checking twitchtracker Nyanners seems to have both higher peak and average viewers, mouse just streams more often and longer.

>>5234087
Mouse may have more followers, but Nyanners consistently gets more live viewers than Mouse.
Mouse probably has a few more subs due to her sob-story though (not holding that against her).

>>5234016
>links
Here's one example. 38 mins if the timestamp doesn't work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujsdoP8VKOA&t=2280s

>>5224598
Austrians are germans as in they belong to the German Nation, but they aren't german as in they belong to the Federal Republic of Germany.
>>5226180
>I-fixed-Germanyposting on /vt/
Stop playing parajew games

>>5234087
>>5234243
>>5234276
>>5234277
Looks like nyanners is bigger from this

>>5234243
Well Mouse is a genuine Vtubing fan,more like she ADORES Vtubing. She's as people here say OG(2017 before Sora).
She isn't fake weeb like most western Vtubers, she knows her shit with a powerlevel of gigachad. She isn't in it to rake the money. She does have a peepeepoopoo humor side but I don't think anyone except schizos actually hates Nyanners for peepee poopoo. Also the tearjerker story of her life of course but most of it is she can be very entertaining and she actually finishes games. Also has tubes, a cocktail of meds in her body and damaged lungs and still sings better than Pink Cat.

>>5234395
Mouse has more followers, but Nyanners is bigger in most other categories. It doesn't reall matter. They're both around the same and the 2 heavy hitters in vshojo. Veibae is pretty big too and just slightly behind them.

>>5234395
we'll see how this goes past Mori collab. But I was going purely by followers and subs.

>>5234566
that website says subs aren't tracked for those 2

>>5220571
then you should kys

>>5234689
doesn't take many braincells to figure out that Mouse gets more subs than Nyanners

>>5234689
Mousey shows her subscriber numbers on stream and fluctuates between 10k and 14k. Nobody knows for Nyanners.

>>5234772
>>5234689
Mouse has ~12k. Veibae usually has 7k-8k. Nyanners doesn't show her number, but based on those 2 I would think it's probably around 10k? Maybe slightly more. She has more viewers, but she doesn't have the sad backstory buff that Mouse has.

>>5234917
Mouses core viewer base is also very dedicated. Nyanners gets a lot of traffic but a lot of the viewers don't support. Ironmouse chat is usually 90% subs.

she had stage fright because of all the anti posting

>>5224471
Nyanners also sat at 22k for most of her stream as well.

>kiara tried to dox her

>>5234999
Yeah, but pink cat should have at least Veibae numbers. Neither Veibae nor pink cat bait donations and they are pretty comparable all things considered. Pink cat is slightly bigger so she probably has slightly more subs too. All I'm doing here is guessing though.

>>5235128
that's a good educated guess I'm not disagreeing with you.

Also now that this collab is done for better or worse how do you think Mori/IronMouse collab would go?

>>5222130
BASED

I LOVE KARIA YOU CAN'T STOP ME

>>5235292
Considering the "shitstorm" was a nothingburger and Mousey is the least hated vshojo I'm expecting not much fallout at all
Although if they ever do someone like Gura that might change

>>5208786
Same
And how it cut off right after that

>>5235411
I wonder what's gonna be the game of choice. Or if they will sing. I hope singing won't be the whole collab. Mouse did some rap cyphers but she excels at opera and Mori isn't... very good at classic singing.

>>5203435
What the fuck I love chicken now?

>>5203435
wtf lmfao

>>5233891
wrong person, schizo

>>5235724
She had it coming.

>>5233840
im a newfag so i dont care about nyanners, but honestly i wanted to see mori and veibae getting fucked, not them

>>5233840
No, I want her gone.

>>5224185
this is funny because as eastern euro, people here often say germoids are fake and don't talk directly

>>5232248
Kiara being part of hololive uses the app cover made for their vtubers. Since nobody outside hololive is allowed to use it, I bet kiara had to try some third part shit to make it work. So of course it ended looking like shit

I hate the way Nyanners talk, so regardless of what she does I wouldn't enjoy watching her, but I honestly start liking Kiara more with every collab. She's almost always the only one not killing the mood.

>>5203291
>Where are the jokes?

Could it be that Nyanners talk deck got a whole lot thinner on after reading the 10-page-banned-word-and-topic list Cover hands out before collabs?

No need to sweat dear, it's only a lawsuit

>retards making shit up about the collab
It went fine and had excellent numbers. Nyanners didn't need this or want this, she doesn't care about holoEN, that's why she didn't join.

>>5246199
Implying she ever had a chance to join

>>5246620
She would have had she bothered to even apply.

>>5246199
they all need to cope somehow

Fucking kek. I've literally never seen this e-mail before. So THIS is how the bugs and changs were able to waste so much money sending akasupas to Coco, even in "not-quite-as-monopoly-money-as-ARS" HKD/SGD/TWD. Google fuckin' says "sorry you got jannied, want a refund?"

>>5247971
What does Report a Problem do? Does it actually ends up refunding you your monopoly money?

>>5248299
Tried it for the lulz. We'll see. I sent her an actual super chat later on anyways and was OK with her keeping an extra $10.

>>5247971
Are you the retard who sent that rrat?

>>5247971
imagine seething this hard

>>5248624
>this one
>seething
>not the retard who SC'd actual money

y'all mad?

>>5248692
normal simps aren't seething but this fag spent money just to get a red background to his troll post

>>5248692
His money went to his Oshi and he outshitposted you.
I'd suspect Google would actually flag your account if you request a refund though. Not that it matters because you're an arsnigger

>>5248784
doubt it. chargebacks are what make them angry

>>5248784
We'll see.
t. not an ARS nigger

>>5248778
>>5248784
You're both defending the retarded containment breaker who (You)'d in a SC.

>>5248824
Anon using a VPN is what makes you an arsnigger. Actual argentinians deserve nothing but pity.

>>5248951
o

>>5248923
pls learn to read before quoting posts. i was absolutely not defending him there

Natasha "my dad is as dead as my rep on 4chan dot com" Nyanners

>>5249141
Does this image expire after the next collab?

>>5232248
Didn't it only screw up after Kiara's display drivers crashed while they were playing checkers? Or was it like that the whole stream on Nyanner's end?

>>5232656
Im not sure if the Nier issue were from her PC though, since she was playing the stream versions which never got updates. After she bought it from Microsoft store and had not issues.

>>5225006
Literally any section of her Deus Sex stream
She also has clips on her YT channel

>>5249602
I remember it being like that from the beginning

>>5232656
She has a Ryzen 3 5800X with a Radeon 5700XT.

>>5220590
You're talking like HoloLive didn't have a profit motive from the very start, you're warning us of a trap while being stuck in another

Kiara hinted at it and I know the troll bait posts are mostly antis but Nyanners is a much bigger name in that cosmos than Kiara. Nyanners history of doing content is now over 10 years. While Kiara was traveling japan, chasing an idol dream she would never achieve, Nyanners was already grinding away and she already had all stages of drama around her, hiatuses from making content, trying to hide her old persona, doing VA work, etc.
I'm not a Kiara anti, in fact I really appreciate how Kiara takes her "setbacks" and how she still gets up after failures. This is her charm point.
However Nyanners has already finished the entire youtube/twitch content game and is already on NG++ with her current iteration (same with Gura).
There are worlds apart between these two.

>>5249911
It was jork. I know her rig is plenty powerful enough, but she's too "feigned helplessness" to troubleshoot any of the usual issues that come up when PC gaming...

>>5249911
its not running the stream tho? when she had those problems none of the stream related stuff crashed. it was just the stuff that she would run on her own pc

>>5250215
The stream itself was spazzing out during one of the NieR streams that she ended up cancelling and turning into an unarchived zetsudan/Minecraft stream.

>>5250136
they are two failed idols in two different ways

>>5206507
Taste your own gangschizing moshe.

>>5203291
https://banned.video/channel/bill-gates-is-evil-

>>5224360
So are you actually implying shitbird or nyancunt can read?

>>5203291
Dude, the collab happened. Get over it already. Bots dislikes were removed. 99% of people were either neutral to the collab or enjoyed it. Fanart is being made and requests for more Vshojo/HoloEN collabs have been pouring in. You lost. Time to throw in the towel, my man.

>>5203291

>nijisanji is for nips.

>hololive is for zhangs.

>Vshojo is for amerimutts.

Change my mind,

>>5259547
based on what?

>>5260200
Based on you getting no pussy

>>5260583
You will never be a woman just like nyanners will never have a dad

>>5260764
Enjoy the future HololiveEN and JP Pride streams on top of even more Vshojo collabs

>>5261216
alright underaged b& back to your epic raiding discord server

>>5261327
That's all you got? You lost and will continue to lose. You all will keep moving your goalposts further and further. When the Kiara/Vei collab happens, what will you do?

>>5261216
Enjoy your delusions. You will never be a real woman.

>>5261528
I don't know. Just make something up. It's your delusion. You get to decide what he does.

>>5203291
>Pink cat
KWAB

>>5261955
>>5261992

>>5206507
>"worst holoEN outshines her"
Bait aside, Kiara is pretty strong in collabs, being an extrovert with no filter is literally her only strong point. Mori and Ame have been far worse overall, and even Gura had two snoozefest collabs today.

>>5227708
If only

>>5228744
Except this was hardly that unless you squinted really hard.