/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

This is bait and I'm taking it.
>Gura above Sora.
There. You got your (you) now fuck off.

>a ISIS
ESLChama...

>>52750316
>True idol spirit
>put gainji
(You)

>Botan represents the true idol spirit

>>52750316
I'm gonna keep watching Bae

>>52750316
How can Mio represent the true idol spirit when we have lovey-dovey leg-lock missionary sex every single night after we put the kids to bed?

How can i watch gura?

shit bait

>>52750316
>Pekora "true idol" even though she collabs with male fleshtubers and streams porn
Nousagi cope

>>52750436
Real idols are cocksucking whores anyway, Sora can have all the idol spirit in the world, I couldn't care less.

>>52750316
What did Kaela do to damage the idol spirit? Isn't she the only ID who hasnt collabed with males?
And Korone and Botan shouldn't be on the first tier, they already whored themselves.

>>52750316
>OP admit he has no idea what an Idol is

>>52750316
Putting the whore of vesper, Kiara, in idol tier made the bait too obvious anon. Let me guess, gigguk doesn't count either?
Better luck next thread

>>52750316
>Noel
>literal pornstar is an idol
Lazy bait

i don't watch holoshit

Niggas on this board has no idea what the idol spirit is and should stop larping

>>52750683
>streams porn
Maybe not watching streams was a mistake....
Just of herself or other people too?

Choco always gives me idol vibes when she's performing. Her dancing and singing have slowly but steadily gotten better and I always enjoy her in events. I guess talking about fuckbuddies and such is against being an idol? I never followed idol stuff prior to hololive.

>Sora
>the one actual 本物のアイドル in the entire fucking company
>some idol spirit
retard

also
>Botan
lmao

>>52750316
>Haachama not in one of damaged tiers
I know you shouldn't badmouth the dead, but come on.

Western women love to eat Hot Cheetos and harm the Idol Spirit

Brown thread.

>>52750316
Bae's a fucking idol have you seen her dance moves? Get out of here with your shitty bait.

>>52750436
>boo hoo she can’t be a true idol because she’s not streaming waaaaahhh

Faggot go back.

>Sora isn't in a tier of her own
Not even bothering to look at the list

>>52750316
I disagree

>>52750316
>ENshit
>top anything
LMAO

>>52751185
She also dances on male holostar cock, sorry anon

>>52751252
>Not even bothering to look at the list
>clearly already bothered to look at the list to see where Sora is in the list

>>52750316
how the fuck do you even watch Gura? she doesnt stream

>>52751185
Bro, she dance like a stripper on a night club.

>>52750316
Marine is a true idol

>>52750316
Seaniggers need to be banned from 4chan.

I can't stand idol culture cuz of how make believe and fake everything is. I prefer vtubers who are allowed to actually say shit and play games they want. Fucking cringe dude

Cover Corp is absolutely not an idol company, and NONE of those girls are anything close to an actual JP idol. Grow Up!

Real Idol culture is fucking soulless

>>52750316
>Gura
>koyori
>pekora
>Okayu

Based tier list, the rest are whores unfortunately

>>52751185
>pole dance moves mixed with some lap dance moves
>Idol dancing

>>52750316
I will never watch f*ids

>>52750316
>calliope mori
>not an idol
>yozora mel
>idol
OP has many things to learn after he takes those cocks out of his mouth

>>52751525
You're as retarded as OP doesn't know what idol is and you're falling for freedom meme if you think being not "idol" then you can openly say nigger or other controversial thing without consequences

>>52750316
What did Sora do?
What did Polka do? She has genki spirit imo despite depressions.
I watch Kronie ironically because its lathargic.

>>52750316
Fixed your tier list

>>52750316
>True Idol Spirit
>Eddy, Brian and that guy Gura fucks

>>52751036
Sora is overrated

>>52750316
its just male collaborator tier list, except this create by EOP so he doesn't know much beside from catalog reader and clip watcher

>>52752313
I could play this game too but instead I'm being nice here.

>>52751525
Pee poop snot diarrhea period clots farts gangbang so one time I was getting railed by this dude and

THERES YOUR TALENT FREEDOM EAT UP KEK ISN'T THIS SO FUNNY AND CREATIVE AND ENTERTAINING

>>52750316
I dont watch because my oshi don't stream i only watch collabs clips

>>52752313
So, if we're following that logic, Kronii and Reine deserves top tier while none of the ones above deserves it

>>52750316
>3 of the 6 chuubas I regularly watch are in bottom tier
Feels good to be based

>>52750669
Not bait idiot

>>52750316
>no nyanners
Kill yourself

>>52750316
I don't watch Holosanji

>>52751244
>Doesn't dance
>No og songs
>Doesn't interact with fans
>meme humor

What exactly makes her an idol?
This entire OP is just "How well do they support my 'no males' ideology"
It has nothing to do with idolness

>>52751678
>>52751454
You need to be a braindead troglodytes of some newfound degree to not see how insane flashy and slick her dancing looks if broken down and payed attention to. Last samurai monkeys have to make shit up to gain leverage though so I understand

Idols is when no males
The more no males there are, the more idol it is

>>52752616
mindbroken by /vt/ beyond repair kek

>>52750316
laplace is bottom tier.

>>52752318
Your life is overrated. End it now (in Minecraft)

>>52750316
I still won't watch your whores, Holobeggar.

>>52750316
>Noel and Miko in "True Idol" tier

>>52750316
>Known Apex/Valorant grifters in the top tier
What did OP mean by this?

>>52753348
And they don’t even have Kanata in her own tier

>>52750436
Towa, Moona and Laplus are lost cause, they have todo mucho validation as whores, they can't go back

>>52750659
Gura streams 24/7 in schizo heads. Just stop taking the meds and she will stream personally just for you.

This is just a list of who interacted with males from simple collabs all the way to just exchanging one small sentence with them

>>52754247
Just exchanging a line isn't a problem since there's plenty of those in the top tier.
People in second tier have pretty much all done several male collabs.

It's actually more like this

>>52754173
I know you guys think having a V card is a badge of honor but most people in life have had sex. Your parents had to have sex to have had you. Is your mother a whore?

I don't watch any of these, my 2view oshi is supreme and more soulful than all your holochuubas or nijitroonjis combined.

>>52754366
So?
What does that have to do with being an idol?

>>52750698
>Kaela
This is the most baffling. She is the best example of an idol IMO

Rat is an idol. She said so.

>>52750316
>If you are not watching the vtubers on the top tier then leave the board

>>52753223
I hope you're not a cuckbeat but your response reeks of mori

>>52754638
According to schizo unicorns they're no longer an idol if they speak to a male despite actual, real life idols doing that all the time.

laplus is at least as bad as matsuri as for that tier list. Personally I think she’s worse.
And the only EN that is an idol is Kiara.

>>52751185
I have. they didn't impress me.

>>52751185
I have. they didn't impress me.

>>52751185
She dances like those kpop whores who try to make up for their lack of ass.

>>52755997
Truthfully speaking, she can do most of typical idol dances the JP girls can do but better (unless they are distinct styles like Aki or Korone) so she has to dance according to the vibe of the choreography to make it fresh
Psycho was anything but kpop but you couldn't see shit because Cameraman was on drugs

>>52756096
I wonder if there is anyway they can release the normal cut.

>>52754978
You know you won if they resort to spamming basedjacks

>>52755563
Laplus became Astel's fleshlight for a while

>An idol (アイドル, aidoru) is a type of entertainer marketed for image, attractiveness, and personality in Japanese pop culture. Idols are primarily singers with training in other performance skills such as acting, dancing, and modeling.

>>52757234
So Mori then

>>52757254
That is correct

>>52750316
>Hime-sama is below seasonal sidekick character
>Hime-sama is below whorish coomerbait warrior
>Hime-sama is below blacked elf
>Hime-sama is below numberfag bunny
>Hime-sama is below ko'one
>Hime-sama is below lazy mogger
>Hime-sama is below hag
>Hime-sama is below married oni
>Hime-sama is below brat
>Hime-sama is below retarded onion
>Hime-sama is below graduated
>Hime-sama is below /r9k/
>Hime-sama is below local rapist
>Hime-sama is below try-hard wannabe
This rating is rigged af.
You should delete this tierlist and make a proper one, OP-sama.

>>52750316
I fixed it

>>52757552
Married oni ? I don't know what you're taking but i need some of that ...
>>52757879
Now that's one tier list i can agree with
(except for iroha and nene)

>>52755179
>60% chance of being right
>is still wrong
I do have to say, she lives in your head though

suisei is the most idol like out of all of them and should be in her own tier

>>52758536
Suisei will remain in the same tier as Sora.

>>52757879
Would bump Flare down, she is just an Autistic neet

>>52758672
As the only 2 real idols

>>52751525
>reddit spacing
>IDOL CULTURE.. LE BAD!
every time kek

>>52758842
>reddit spacing boogeyman
>no rebuttal of any points
>haha they are basedjak
every time

>>52757879
see >>52757234

>>52759190
there is no point to refute, youre just bitching about hating idols with no actual knowledge of idol culture. go back.

>>52756832
It wasn’t/isn’t Astel alone.

>>52759279
I'm not him, and this entire thread and the OP has no idea what idols are.

>>52759788
enlighten us

>>52754376
Whoever made this doesn't like street fighter

>>52750316
god just watch whoever you like and stop being such a faggot, doomposting is killing this board

>>52754247
Irys...

>>52756669
>Incel losers
>Winning
LMAO. Get fucked. Oh wait... you can't. :)

>>52759823
this >>52757234
They have an expectation to not be in a relationship, not live in a cave wearing burka and avoiding looking at men or whatever the fuck it is that you claim they need to do.

>>52760029
>or whatever the fuck it is that you claim they need to do.
>4chan is just one person
retard, i didnt claim anything. i agree with this definition. what i disagree with is that idols are bad or that idol culture somehow harms vtubers.

Sora is pictured in the dictionary nextn to the defintion of Idol.Commit Sudoku now

>>52755563
the reason you think that is that you're retarded. (or a threadreader.)

>>52757552
TOTAL LUNA VICTORY

>>52762365
>t. cuckmate

>singing talent
but Suisei is a worse singer than Gura. Suisei is a one-trick pony who can only belt with mixed voice

Gura can both belt with mixed voice (1:02) and chest voice (1:25) for she is very capable and her bag of tricks is endless
https://litter.catbox.moe/bnct6p.mp4

Sora is overrated af but homobeggars just hate to admid that someone like Pekora is better than this hack

>>52757879
I get the others but why is Reine in the bottom?

>>52757234
>Meaning
>An idol is a type of entertainer whose image is manufactured to cultivate a dedicated consumer fan following. Talent agencies commercialize idols by recruiting preteens and teenagers with little or no experience in the entertainment industry, and market them as aspiring stars.[9][10] Idols are marketed for their image, attractiveness, and personalities. An idol's main objective is to "sell dreams", offering fans a form of escapism from the troubles of daily life.

>>52750316
This is the most "I get all my information from the catalog" post I've seen so far this year

>>52757234
>>52757254
>>52757349
>>52758536
>>52758819
>>52760183
>Several idols were confirmed to have been dismissed, suspended, demoted, or forced to leave their groups following reports of them dating or having sexual relations
>Most idols are not allowed to form romantic relations
>Because idols share an intimate relationship with their fans, fans may feel "betrayed" if idols reveal unfavorable parts of their personal lives that are different from the image they present, or break the illusion that they are there exclusively for fans.
>Common restrictions include not being allowed to smoke in public, or pursue romantic relationships.
>being linked to the Odagiri effect for featuring attractive people of the same gender interacting with each other.

>>52765041
so nothing that either Sora nor Suisei have done. thus, idols.

>>52765041
If that's the case why are they still popular and liked?

>>52750316
No.

>>52765869
Ehh relatively, but the numbers don’t lie, it is not a coincidence that all the least popular girls in hololive are the ones who regularly collab with holostars or do things that betray idol culture

>>52750316
>Fauna
>true idol
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

This is what an Idol looks like

>>52754376
but I thought jamie was le bad???

>>52765356
Sora and Suisei have no qualms with having a boyfriend behind the scenes and are dismissive of people who do, so they have no reason not to

>>52751244
Strong work ethic is literally one of the most fundamental pillars of being an idol. You know, the ones that aren't just roleplaying one on the Internet.

>>52765869
>anon thinks you have to be an idol to succeed in content creation
You do remember that normal singers and streamers exist, right?

>>52750316
>finds my oshi
>true idol spirit
Excellent tier list, anon.

>>52757254
>attractiveness
Sorry, try someone else

Ame is my kamioshi and there's nothing you can say to make me think otherwise.

>>52763900
>Suisei is a worse singer than Gura
I know there is no possible way any real person thinks this but fuck you it still pisses me off, I'm taking the bait.
Never post again.

>>52750886
hes probably referring to this, but frankly calling it porn is a blatant overreach

>>52763900
This larper trying to sound technical while calling Sora someone who got high technical ability capable of singing in very high key like in those crazy high vocaloid songs overrated while praising someone like Gura someone with basic ass technique only capable to sing easy songs, Based deaf retard lmao I can't

>post literal lies because i dont watch streams
>make it related to idols so the 10 unironic unicorn faggots get triggered
>get (you)s
>?????
>profit

>>52768251
who asked

>>52750316
>if you're not eating McDonalds then you should leave
Grim.

>>52754502
Anon, if you are in the Idol business, there is only one answer, be pure, if not then become a niji, vshojo or a porn star, the title of idol has that much weight, there is no argument about your mother this or that, it has nothing to do

>>52750316
> has any English speaking vtuber above shit tier
Your opinion is actual trash.

>>52750316
>True idol
>Noel
Roru

>>52770041
That wasn't an answer to a question.

>>52751096
Haato =/= Haachama, you fucking tourist

I don't watch tubers anymore

>>52750316
>kiara #1
i dont even have to read the text to know this is not my tier list.

>>52772217
Moona, Azki and Aki are... u know... So, Hololive is not an idol company, period.
Your problem is thinking on pre AKB mindset

Can someone explain to me what's the idol spirit exactly?

>>52781287
spirit of infantile behavior which their fans reciprocate

>>52750316
>all holoshit
Sorry I grew out of idol garage made for teenagers where the most edgy shit they’ll say is “what color are your panties”. Fucking lame recycled content built as a incel breeding ground

>>52750316
>top tier
shit taste lol

>>52750316
The lazy pieces of shit of manjigumi on the top tier lmao

>>52750316
kfp talons made this

>>52782453
I actually find them cringe now...

>>52750316
What did Mumei do?

>>52751343
That's so fucking hot. I want to watch her get railed by dudes.

>>52763900
So many things bad here jesus.
Suisei didn't work her way up not matter how delusional hoshiyomis put it, she just got lucky after some attempts at this at getting at the right company at the right time. The "idol journey" story is very cool but both have been cashing in, living a luxurious life and being very popular for like the past 3 years already, they're completely disconnected from that previous reality.
I always found funny when they Try to hide Suisei's obvious disgust/not giving a fuck to her fans as being le mysterious professional idol, hilarious brainwashing. Holo fans are masochists.
Also the vocal capabilities of both are a big circlejerk.

In the other side, Lamy isn't GFE anymore (she doesn't even do ASMR by now) unless you count normal zatsudan spam as it and Kanata has never stated it directly not makes almost any of her content related to it apart from a couple of tweets every now and then.

I agree with the last one.

>>52750316
>Sora and Azki arent on the top
>And Gura on top
Shit tier and kys now

>>52751185
Bae is the type of modern idol that Cover wants to support but their business model is so dependent on a niche of whales they can't fully support. Yagoo almost certainly wants holoPro unity which is why management promoted it more heavily in the EN branch. Hololive is slowly moving to a point where the true idol spirit will include female idols and male idols dancing at the same concert.

>>52786852
if he wanted "holopro unity" why didnt he just keep hololive as is in the beginning. holo JP was already collabing with guys but now they have a weird reputation that they cant get rid of

>>52750316
I dunno, man, there's a bunch of shit-tier vtubers in your highest tier here.

>>52754685
You have no idea what an idol is.

>>52750316
I thought the idol spirit was about singing, dancing, and making people happy.

>>52750316
>Kiara first spot, i already know your opinion is wrong
>Only 4 of the 26 in the top are watchable, rest speaks in moon runes
>Realy good chuubas you could actually enjoy are at the very bottom, like Mori or Bae for example
>Only holotards, i get not putting any Nijis on the list, but no VShojo, no indies, no phase connect?

OP may be stealing the award for biggest retard on this board

>>52753350
even if that's true, her choreographies were bad.

>>52788080
>Talking about idol then complaining about JP chuuba where idol is originated
>Vshojo, Phase
>>Idol
You're competing with OP for the biggest retard on this board

>>52750316
Kiara being in the first place while most of the talent is organizado by debut with a few exceptions that where probably from laziness really shows this is bait

>YabaIRyS
>Idol
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>52789089
>organizado
ajajajaj

>>52750316
I am not a holodrone.

>>52763900
I really don't agree with much here, but if you are going to do something like this I think a spectrum is more accurate/appropriate. Using Kanata as an example: Kanata does do the whole no males thing, but she doesn't do that much GFE stuff and when she does tweet something remotely similar to that it gets overblown like she's Rushia 2.0 (Rushia is probably the only hololive member who would ever really fully fit that category)

>>52785709
>I always found funny when they Try to hide Suisei's obvious disgust/not giving a fuck to her fans as being le mysterious professional idol, hilarious brainwashing.
fuck are you talking about? suisei gives constant updates to her fans regarding her status and what she's been up to, is constantly thanking them for supporting her through random mediums from youtube posts to suddenly screaming "i love you" during her last sololive, when she went on a very long break she had prerecorded content ready so her fans wouldn't feel it as badly ranging from covers and youtube shorts to fully edited playthroughs, after her startend stream ended she came back simply to thank her chat for having a good time with her, she didn't want to finish building her minecraft house unless she could do it on stream for everyone to see, and she clearly trusts her fanbase (off the top of my head: the time she gave mod powers to her members to get rid of spammers in chat).
let me guess, "she doesn't like being lewded in her fanart tag", "she doesn't enable gachikois", "she won't give her fanbase a mascot design"? somehow that means she feels disgust for her fanbase?

>>52750316
Bait used to be believable

>>52750316
total
idolfag
death

>>52750316
Why is it KFP or Chumbuds that always do this shit?

>>52768338
the fact that chumkeks are actually THAT delusional about gura's mediocre voice amazes me to no end
Most of the JP girls that sing are better than gura

yet another schizo tier list

>>52789753
Lamy isn't GFE anymore so this is still wrong

>>52787697
Having a boyfriend and collabing with guys causes sad and therefore is not maximum idol spirit

>>52787697
lol at least half of them can't sing and/or dance. "idol spirit" in this retarded tier list is just another word for non-male collabers, and even that is not entirely accurate, KEK

>>52750316
I get this is a tierlist for girls that collabed with males and shit but when did Mel do that?

>>52793704
I didn’t adjust Lamy I just moved Kanata since I was using her as an example. I already said that Rushia was probably the only real member of that category

>>52750724
To be fair, nobody on this board knows what an idol really is

>>52790063
>constant updates to her fans regarding her status and what she's been up to
Normal behavior for any streamer
>suddenly screaming "i love you" during her last sololive
Part of the performance high
>when she went on a very long break she had prerecorded content ready
Every content creator does this so they don't fall out of the algorithm treadmill.

>>52750316
what did polka do

>>52750316
>someone that does literal porn represents the true idol spirit

>>52796738
A lot more than someone who hated their fans would do, no? But I'll take ignoring the other points in that post as you agreeing.
>Every content creator does this so they don't fall out of the algorithm treadmill.
roru

>>52785709
>completely disconnected from that previous reality
>still friends with indies