/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Her ego is pretty insane. She isn't even that good at the game anymore.

I hope the guys that ruined Titanfall also ruin Apex just to see this fat bitch suffer.

>ME ME MEtubers are always the best in the branch
I'm noticing a pattern here

>>52764170
She'll be graduating this year too if the rrats hold up.

>Apex
who cares

>>52764170
>i'm the only reason people play apex
how fucking delusional is she and faggoons

>>52764833
Nah. Nijisanji runs 2 year contracts she would've been gone with Nina if that was the case

>thier oshi reflect the fanbase

>>52764170
That is a hell of a me-me-me post

>>52765404
Wouldn't each wave have offset contract renewel timings to line up with their debut timings. Nina's expiring now, a few months ahead of their 2 year anniversary would support that idea.

>>52764170
That's fucking based. Not everything needs to be doom and gloom schizo bro, after Nina graduates the world and especially Nijisanji will continue as if nothing.

>>52765650
obsydia's anniversary is like in a month, so their contracts have probably been signed late spring, so we're guessing it's not Selen this year

>>52765650
They didn't sign their contracts when they debuted. It takes a long while to do that

>>52765650
>>52765751
except the main problem here
Lazusydia got hired together early 2021
they even talked about how management decided right away Elira would be the blue dragon and Selen was going to be the purple dragon
There's no reason for nijisanji to only hand the contract later to obysidia

>>52764170
>free advertisement
by that she's referring to her leeching off twitch ecelebs and pro players? that's the advertisement they're supposed to notice? or?

>>52764170
Holy shit. That's fucking delusional.

>still the most popular multiplayer game among vtubers
>constant customs/tournaments with dozens of players
>the focus of the biggest recurring vtuber tournament (2nd biggest if you count the marketing exercise that is the niji koushien)
>i'm the only reason people still play apex or know what apex is
This would be funny if it weren't so sad

>>52764170
How embarrassing

>>52766157
Could be then that they renewed their contract right before all the shitfest in january happened
How unlucky

>>52766496
possibly, then the whole rrat about winter graduation makes more sense..

Who would only know APEX just for Selen, let alone a vtuber?

>>52766496
You expect me to believe that fucking NINA was the smartest of the bunch and was the only one that saw shit hitting the fan? BULLfuckingSHIT

>>52764170
And people say Selen is one of the good ones? Fuck off.

>>52764170
>nina graduates
>will come back not even a month later as an indie or whatever
>they will all still talk on discord or even collab
Who cares.

>>52766731
Hag brain

>>52766731
Considering Yugo quit even earlier(refused to stream) and Zaion just straight up gave up on NijiEN she wasnt the only one. Hard to tell what was the catalyst that started it all. Realizing that ACCELERATE means their numbers will suffer as every new wave comes out, jealous of the support Salome was getting while they had to pay for their own debut shit, abuse from management, the whole Elira clique and nepotism hires, who knows

>>52766731
If you watched NijiEN at all from Lazulight until know, then you'd know the vtubers aren't the sharpest tools in the shed. Hell Pomu was the only person who had a job in her wave compared to two NEETs.

>>52766909
Sorry Nijisister but your "family branch" was never real
I hope you enjoy more fake Tweets in the future

>>52766496
>>52766731
What the fuck happened to nijien? Someone spoonfeed me

>>52764170
She's trash at apex lol

>>52764170
She's crazy fr

>>52766731
How in the fuck is that hard to believe

>>52764170
She knows acknowledging it will set a death flag

>>52764170
You guys will make threads about anything these days huh…

>>52767430
>Nijisister
Please just call me a nigger faggot cocksucker, instead. It'd be less insulting than the implication that I watch NijiEN.

>>52764170
I can tell you have the maturity of a 13 year old.

>im the only reason people still play apex
What did she mean by this?

>>52764170
by people she means her fans, some discovered it through her and some still only play because she does. idk how that was hard to deduce for good amount of this thread even if her wording was shit. i cant really defend her self ego stroke on that last half though.

selen is the only niji who refers to her colleagues as "competition"
she probably celebrates every graduation

>>52764170
lmao if i was the management i will not allow her to tweet something like this, what a desperate narcissist

>>52769067
Women really do need to be tard wrangled at all times.

>>52764170
lol how can anyone anti selen? she is so harmless and inoffensive its hilarious.

>>52764170
She’s still a better streamer and person then 90% of the branch so i don’t really care if she’s a bit narcissistic sometimes.

>>52764833
Why the hell are you believing that random post? She JUST got her old manager back, she's not leaving anytime soon

>>52766496
No, they renewed their contracts a lil after the mass group Japan trip happened. Pomu went on the trip to decide if she wanted to renew or not. It's one thing to believe the Shu thing because it matches Luxiem's renewal date, it's another to make up some BS about Selen and run with it

>>52766731
despite all the bullshit they still get paid well (of course not talking about the 2% merch)
So if Nina is leaving is because she has something in line that will pay at least the same on top of leaving the clutches of japanese corpo bureaucracy

I will hold hope for the ironmouse nepotism hiring to vshojo in the fullest
which is why the rest of Ethyria only option is to stay in nijiEN, they have no one to put them in the spotlight if they leave

i can understand sweating hard for a competitive game disregarding numbers, but why apex with its aim assist of all things, valorant would've been better on sheer principle

>>52764170
Every time I think Selen can't get any more desperate she somehow does.

>>52764170
She knows that Nina is going to be reborn. May soon follow and join Aqua and Towa. She is allowed to dream.

>>52767722
>Luxiem debuts
>Alot of holofags leaves
>Way lot more of Chink fujos joins
>The chinks inflate the entire branch numbers not just males
>Girls start getting tons of subs like never before
>Scandal after scandal or just getting bored of Luxiem the fujos start leaving in mass
>That also means the girls are losing the fujos that also liked to watch them
>Holofags won't return and Chinks left, the entire branch ccv plummets

>>52770825
they've only reverted to about where they were before luxiem so it can still get a lot worse

>>52770579
she is a day1 apex retard
an age where the controller drama didn't exist
and before that was Overwatch and Splatoon
Simply put she will never like Valorant, she tried to get into it for numbers reasons and still gave up

>>52770997
>she tried to get into it for numbers reasons
Holy threadwatcher, she never wanted to be a Valorant streamer because it fucking sucks

>>52770825
so a nothingburger uh, numberfags deserver the rope

Selen does not suffer Commies

>>52770997
>>52771124
so selen's just coping with sunk cost... her competitive nature could've been spent better elsewhere, oh well

>>52770825
The biggest thing wrong here is the fact that Holofags never watched them in the first place. Did people already forgot how small NijiEN started out?

>>52771212
Nijien members are numberfags too anon. They went menhera when numbers start dropping

>>52771124
I won't even try to persuade you
she talked more than one time on stream trying to get better at it off-stream and most of the chat didn't like the idea

>>52771124
Both games are fucking shit desu. A lot of the F2P esports games that NijiEN joys are.

graduation streams are cringe

>>52771375
faggot, alot of holofags watched nijiEN even before the fabled vrabi chatter statistics revealed how much
this of course was only for lazusydia which is why Ethyria was called the failed wave cause they didn't grab their attention aside Nina with her based game choices
but once Luxiem was announced there was a huge fucking meltdown on /nijien/ about how much they got "sold a lie"

>>52771448
She did it because no one in the fucking branch plays Apex on her level or want to try to learn
Everyone is a Valotard there and due to her competitive nature she wanted to learn the basics to not get mogged on those random Valorant collabs with Shu, Fulgur, Finana, ect.
and she ended being equal on skill level with the people on the branch who play that game since their debut
>>52771522
I agree, for Selen, Apex it's both... a blessing and a curse

>>52771522
>A lot of the F2P esports games that NijiEN joys are.
for the sake of argument what FPS games do you like anon? i mean if you don't like competitive games just say it, you don't have to hide it lol

>>52771653
i'm convinced that all this is just selen's way to cope that she has at least one game she's "the best" in all of nijien, that's what she wants her legacy to be...

>>52764170
Selen is literally /here/
https://twitter.com/Selen_Tatsuki/status/1676381578682077185
>had to "clarify" her tweet

>>52771839
>>52770546

>>52764170
>everyone in NijiEN trying to steal Nina's viewers by talking to her and pretending to care in her final week
Meanwhile, Selen:
>Trying to steal Apex viewers

>>52771666
Like I played a bit of N64 Goldeneye on Xbone today and that was pretty fun, the port was terrible compared to the cancelled 360 version but it was still fun since it's still Goldeneye. Achievements are cool too since certain ones unlock "cheats" for extras like paintball/DK mode, and the higher difficulties actually seem to change the game up in meaningful ways. Halo MCC is also still plenty fun even now with an active multiplayer userbase, probably more than Infinite. Oh yeah, and Ion Fury is also good even on the Steam Deck, its like Duke Nukem 3D but cranked up a bit more in terms of difficulty and object interactivity. Dead Island 2 was also a pretty good 7/10 game, flawed but likable and was better than what you'd expect from a project in dev hell.

I can understand people enjoying games competively because I know Halo and Counter Strike had their scenes, but APEX and battle royales as a whole are probably one of the worst subgenres to come out. There's not a ton of fun in waiting to queue, waiting for the characters to be selected, waiting to fall somewhere on some fuckhuge empty map, praying that you can somehow find good loot in time, and hoping that you can somehow survive the first fight only to wait minutes until the next one even happens. It's like you have games like Battlefield or even Hunt Showdown, and suck out whatever fun you could even have from them.

>>52772647
Battle royales try to make the game more random for exciting moments so that the best player doesnt win all the time but they swung too hard in that direction, i get that the audience wants a poker game where the best player still wins but not too much, but these battle royales... too much of the competitive aspect is lost

>>52773016
It also doesnt help that BRs probably use some form of skill based or engagement optimized match making because AAA publishers want people playing and spending as much money for as long as they can. Some publishers are just more dickishly evil in this aspect like Activision.

>>52771839
not the first time she do something
vt gets riled up
and she "clarifies" later

>>52764833
she will. since she boosted to pred in apex as a nijisanji

>>52768886
No, I'm sure people understood that, it's still a retarded thing to say.

>>52764170
>MEME MEME MEME

>>52771212
A nothingburger to rival their viewers

She's surrounded by ass kissers huh

>Does horribly at Vsaikyo
>Gets mindbroken
This tournament and Apex in general has destroyed more lives than I can count, so many chuubas who just went insane, stopped streaming or dropped off cause of that stupid tournament.
Apex is a health hazard.
Ill say this tho, it blows my fucking mind how you can play a game for years and still be trash at it, its only logical for someone to improve through sheer grinding, but so many of the Apex addicts are so fucking bad at it.

>>52774412
Wrong thread, Monsoon

>>52764170
Don't be mean to Selen, today it's her actual birthday and she's having a blast in VRchat with her true friends akka twitch streamers

>>52777877
forgot to add this >>52777583
for Surefour's mention about having a party today go to his last vod 10:17:50
>>43788549

>>52764170
>APEX APEX APEX APEX APEX APEX APEX APEX

>>52766731
You don't need to believe.
>get into NijiEN
>get ghosted by the rest of your wave for being white, not a femcel and unable to sing
>this is in a time where NijiEN is all about unity (sans Petra)
>decide fuck it and play the numbers game perfectly
>be the 2nd most subbed girl in the branch right away
>rest of your wave mopes around and whines that nobody likes them
>Luxiem debuts
>see the money is there right away
>capitalize on it
>grow more
>go as far as flying to meet the boys since you can do it no problem
>sisters eventually come to hate you because you come between them and their yume/fujo delusions
>get death threats every day
>Luxiem boys basically do nothing about it despite you doing everything you can for them
>grow closer to the branch's ace (Pomu)
>decide to not quit where most people would have
>instead reinvent yourself and get closer to your wavemates
>get semi-decent at singing while still being realistic about the fact you'll never be on your wavemates' level
>go back to doing what you want and play autismo games since NijiEN is cozy enough
>get comfortable enough that you feel you can do better
>outright tell your wavemates on anniversary stream that you should stop feeling bad about what cards you were dealt and get on with your life
>spoiler: they don't listen
>branch starts to stagnate after the Luxiem bubble pops
>by 2nd outfit decide you're not going to let that get to you and still do better
>management doesn't help at all (shocker)
>everyone else in the branch continues to stagnate, partly because of management mandated work
>know you and your audience can do better than this
>since your wavemates and most of your coworkers really don't help you much anyway, and since management does the opposite of help, nothing is stopping you from leaving
>leave

KFP falseflag thread

>>52764170
Selen has not been the same since losing that tourney a few months ago. Pre 2023 Selen would not have tweeted something like this. Completely mind broken by the fact she got her image of being a good Apex player destroyed real-time.

>>52783347
Do honeyfag always victimize nina

>>52764170
wtf is a nijisanji?

>>52784457
Honeyfags didnt even exist for a long period of time because there was a period where Nina left to chase numbers. It's only now that she actually put effort into building back up her fanbase.

Why are catalogue trannies so mentally ill? seems like being a nijifan in /vt/ is like being a Republican in California.
Leave Selen alone you freak.

>>52785214
>he wrote this while /NijiEN/ was the first to shit on her

What makes apex so addictive to these people?

>>52784316
probably didn't help that people were hyping her up as the greatest apex player on the planet before she even did much

>>52785298
>butwhataboutism
shut your bitch mouth

>>52785214
>don't be like a certain apex predator

>>52785214
>leave selen alone
As an ex fan: no. She's become everything she used to mock and deserves the criticism.

>>52765079
Very. She always blame someone else when she failed a big Apex tournament.

>>52764338
>She isn't even that good at the game anymore.
Never was anon.

>>52770997
>Simply put she will never like Valorant, she tried to get into it for numbers reasons and still gave up
Skill issue

I wonder what will happen to her channel if Apex gets shut down by EA? Will she play a different game instead?

>>52785214

>>52791782
seethe trannoid

>>52788839
She'll probably go back to Overwatch 2 I guess, but that game is struggling a lot more compared to APEX due to a massive content drought.

>>52764371
kronii ain't shit

>>52788839
>Wed
she'll find a game no one plays to claim she is the best at it and somehow she will still come on 2nd and have a mental breakdown about it

>>52764170
t. Enna

her ego is so fragile I can't wait for her next apex breakdown
you know its happenin faggoons

>>52788839
i really wouldn't be worried that her streaming career's going to outlive the game
i'm not implying any kind of insider knowledge about her, just that even with people complaining about how bad the game is, it's still on a growth trajectory, and EA appears to be in it for the long haul
professional streaming is much more likely to be subject to some major upheaval at some point

>>52771646
Nah, meltdown wasn't because of 'sold a lie', but because of inability to catch even a solo girl stream... Just think about this, there was a long period where this fags were literally everywhere and you couldn't even complain because hordes of homobeggars&sisters this is first time when them appeared en masse btw.
Once i used to welcome them, but they managed to turn me into diehard unicorn...

>>52764170
Selen obviously doesn't give a shit about anyone in EN.

>>52785214
Go back to sucking Sonny's pencil dick, /NijiEN/sister

>>52766909
she fucking is. that's the absolute state of nijien

>>52788839
Apex made a lot of money, anon. Also EA is well known to milk their franchise dry and even keep the drying husk of a corpse in their closet forever.
>t. Total War series

>>52791782
Really hard to defend your oshi when there's internal infighting between fans.
>A house divided cannot stand

>>52771375
i watched them then
t.holofag since 2019

>>52776580
>Street Fighter tournament has fleshtubers and vtubers work together as a team, builds friendships and everyone improves with each other
>APEX tournament has at least a few people fucking hate themselves/each other every time

>>52771375
despite what luxiem tourist sisters believes, i watch them including nijiJP before holoEN even exist while shitting on the company and 2%

>>52776580
a little spoonfeeding on why people get mindbroken about apex tournaments? is it just a bad mindset and not being able to accept that a lot of battle royale is random?

>>52784316
was her mindbreaking really that bad? she couldn't accept just getting beaten or was she beaten BAD?

>>52795561
gunplay + parkour + teammates + inventory management + character abilities + map awareness + BR randomness + massive grind = eventual mindbreak

>>52795561
>waste time spamming apex
>hope to perform well to catch a lot of eye
>lose and laughed at
>mindbreak

>>52764170
fix her

>>52770579
Valorant is sterile of any potential form of creative gameplay with how it was designed from the bottom-up to appeal exclusively to the esports scene.

>>52796053
+ entertaining chat

>>52795388
Even with Apex it only improve friendship between Aqua-Suisei-Towa.
Selen? Eeeeeeeh...........

>>52795561
Simple. It's just a matter of pride and ego.
Some people taking Apex a bit too seriously.

>>52767160
>The hag is the smartest one compared to the NEET and the zoomer
shocker.

>>52771375
the entire western and """western""" vtuber fanbase was Holofags from 2019/2020 until relatively recently

>>52776580
>so many of the Apex addicts are so fucking bad at it.
Apex doesnt reward personal skill.
In something like cs or valorant a really good player can go 1 v 5 and win or hell even if they just win every 1v1 they are good. Apex and otherbattle royals say fuck that some dude hiding in a bush the whole game wins. Or even if you win a 1v1 a random 3rd party shows up and caps you since they had full health and you were weak from the first guy. A 1 v 3 is almost impossible a pro could easily get wiped. Other factors are in play that let people who suck at shooting succed at apex.

>>52798356
>Valorant
Stopped reading there

Are tweets even real anymore I can't see any of them

most anons posting about apex don't know very much about apex just like how they don't watch streams
take everything you read with a whole shaker of salt

>>52798622
I refuse to play a worse version of Titanfall

>>52795724
>or was she beaten BAD?
Anon she got 57th place out of 60 participants in the tourney. For someone who was touted as a god Apex gamer this hurt her pride BADLY to the point where she's been acting schizo ever since losing. Constantly coping on Twitter about how "good" she is (like in OP's pic) and bragging about insignificant accomplishments. It's actually quite sad to see her mental state deteriorate like this over a meme FPS.

>>52800615
baby towa...

>>52800615
>Tempus in her team are placed higher
Yeah, that's gotta hurt

>>52800615
>Get shit on by blue tempiss man

>>52764170
>Selen has become a total egomaniac who betrayed her original promise not to overdo Ap4ex, Pomu is just a sad bootlicker, Elira started the cancerous clique, Petra is still boring, Feesh is Feesh, and Nina is now one of the good ones in the branch whose departure will only make things worse.
How did things turn out so badly for Lazusydia? Only Rosemi seems to be worth a damn within the original wave hires these days.

>>52766731
The 30 year old is more world wise than the 20 year olds, I'm not shocked. Nina also has held actual jobs to compare it to.

>>52785628
Yeah the whole 10 point thing probably was bearing down on her pretty hard because she has always been bare minimum menhera-adjacent. Performance anxiety was inevitable.

>>52783347
>>outright tell your wavemates on anniversary stream that you should stop feeling bad about what cards you were dealt and get on with your life.
When Nina first said this I thought she was saying it out of ego, but now I think you are right she was giving her wavemates some much needed advice to stop bitching about things.

>>52801032
As you get older, you quickly start to realise how much young people absolutely do not want to listen to any advice they get.
I'm only in my late 20s and I had to give advice to a dumbass teenager and it was like trying to ride a bike underwater. I never want to attempt it again. That can be someone else's headache.

what does ipn have to say about this

>>52764170

I had a feeling she was headed this way. I dropped her because I was getting this schizo intuition that this shit was all getting to her head.

That or she's going "fuck this shit I'm graduating soon anyway"

>>52764170
She'll be ok

>>52768443
literally this board
Also lonely old men, homo loving fat girls, and the mentally ill

>>52804962
Okay, so which one are you?

>>52800699
The good thing aout Towa is that she's not complaining or acting schizo. She actually improved her Apex skill a lot and did way etter now.
Selen on the other hand.....

>>52783347
It will be hilarious if that Holo announcement for a new solo wave is actually Nina.
But if she ended up becoming Indie, I'm fine with that. Also I hope she's in contact with Vesper, because I ship them

>>52771653
Kinda expected to at least have some aim if you make it to a high level on MnK

>>52801201
Fuck I can actually relate to this so much
I have nephew that I try to help to grow up as a responsible adult. But all my advices don't seem to stay in his head.
I don't want to give up. I don't want to see that kid to become like his dead beat dad that did nothing with his life.

>>52764170
Didn't she cry a few days ago because she wasn't eSports relevant enough to have a liquidpedia page? I really don't know why she does shit like this literally tries everything to worm into the eSports scene EXCEPT actually competing and playing at a high skill level.

>>52764338
Most video game influencers aren't good at the game. Being entertaining to watch and being skilled are two different things.

>>52795561
>Play the same game for months on end, maybe even an entire year
>12+ hour streams off it
>Get invited to a tournament
>Do horrible at it
That would mindbreak anyone. Especially in Selen's case she's always been known as the Apex person, thing is Selen always tended to keep Apex to a relative minimum, after that vtuber tourney she's really cranked it up and joined multiple tournaments

>>52784998
i don't know

>>52767051
The catalyst that started it was the failure by management to protect talents. Moruru was harassed from within the company, and management failed her, so she left. Lulu got death threats. Gundou got harassment from both fans and management, and Axia felt as if fans harassed him, with management doing nothing to mitigate the complaints he was having. Yugo got terminated for going into a recording studio with bandmates. Zaion's spats with management are well documented. Nina has been harassed on all ends from the start, there's no wonder she's leaving if we know management isn't doing anything to deal with this, and it makes sense that the leaks imply Shu is leaving, and Mysta would too if not for his mother, since Luxiem has schizo fans and Selen's own implied impending graduation, dealing with menhara struggles post-VSPO with people posting that she is why TSB lost (which is true, but it's not good for her mental health)

>>52808321
>spoiler
what happened with mysta's mom?

>>52808321
Did Lulu get death threats? I don’t remember reading if it went that far, though I think people were stalking her IRL. Granted she didn’t seem to care because she had a punching bag and was physically active. If anything she just wanted to play vidya and seemed more disappointed that Anycolor wouldn’t let her stream so that they could form a case to present to the judge.

>>52800922
Who knows. Maybe streaming nearly 24/7 isn’t great if it ends in the talents showcasing their mental breakdowns. Maybe the company just changed so much internally compared to when it was 6 talents, nevermind the pressures that come with being a publicly traded corporation on the Tokyo Stock Exchange. Or maybe there’s so much bullshit going on internally that the talents just don’t care anymore and only do it for the pay check, because most of them realistically would have nowhere else to go

>>52808652
Mysta's mom appears to be one of if not his only support network outside of Nijisanji and her health and life situations fluctuate a lot. He very obviously values her more than he values Niji, cancelling streams out of concern for her, and I believe he also uses some of his Niji money to help her. Without this job he can't support her.
>>52808321 (me)
Looping back in on Yugo and Zaion, management forcibly terminates talents if they are concerned they may speak out or legally strike back against Niji in hopes of preventing a monetary loss. Zaion obviously has a lawyer, but Yugo probably is sitting on a trove of stuff from Niji's management and possibly talents about his whole... thing, which will blow NijiEN up and kill the branch.

>>52795561
unlike round based team vs team games where you can lose but be "close match"
in Apex having 20 teams of 3 players, means your team can get fucked over pretty early
no matter how good your team been performing in scrims, the tournament day performance is what matters
Happened to Selen this year, happened to Aqua last year
clocking dozens and dozens of hours playing with your team to get clapped by a single mistake in the actual day is a terrible feeling

>>52766731
?
She easily has the most life experience next to like Ren or something.

>>52808951
>uses some of his Niji money to help her.
some is underselling, he bought realstate in the UK for her

>>52808652
Karma for trying to troon him out as a kid. Mysta being stockholmed still supports her.

>>52764170
based
fuck commies

>>52808884
>Did Lulu get death threats?
I remember she worded them as "letters of challenge", which is a subtle way of describing death threats.

>>52808951
Wasn't he scammed buying some land for her?