/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

rope yourself BVTMnigger

>>53584627
Senzawa for vshojo soon

>>53584627
It's literally just better content as long as they watch something interesting. There's no reason why one would dislike it other than childish console wars reasons.

isn't seeing the vtuber react to something the entire point of watching her? or do you just want her to tell stories irl that has nothing to do with what the stream is about? (which they can't do in corpos because doxxshitting)

>>53584835
reacting to video games is good because hololive can do it. reacting to videos is bad because hololive can't do it. except when you react to a movie and call it a watchalong or react to hololive videos, then it's good again.

Why are you brown, OP?

>>53584667
Imo that would be really funny

>>53584667

Senz is dead. And so is shitshark.

>>53584667
Imagine for a moment, the following.
Gura leaves Hololive on her next contract renewal. A couple months later, reappears under a new name as the latest VShojo member. Revitalized by the heavy dose of "talent freedom" she immediately gets to "work" watching vtuber clips and daily dose of internet. The ink is has not even fully dried on her new contract before Amazon pressures Twitch to finally crack down on react content, wiping it completely off the platform using severe penalties and a Youtube-like "three strikes" rule for those that continue to do it.
Gura no longer an idol, no longer has cheap lazy content, on top of "talent freedom" to not stream. "She doesn't stream now!" yeah and what would that be like if there wasn't even a manager trying to force her to do it?
Eventually starts streaming on Kick where she only shows up to do drunk streams and divulges non-disclosure information about Cover, who sues her for damages, draining her bank account of the money she originally obtained under them.
It would be a tragic comedy.

>>53585442
You have been watching too many sayu streams anon

everything that's not original content is react content, including playing videogames
you watch it to see their reactions

>>53584627
A lot better than seeing the same vtuber play Minecraft for the 17826383377477281772627th time.

>>53584835
React content isnt the same thing as "watching the vtuber for reactions." Its a very specific kind of content.

>>53585442
Wow, this is how rent free Gura is in the minds of bvtm.

>>53584627
You're the cancer, and I hope you get chemo'd and dies

>>53585719
>including playing videogames
>you watch it to see their reactions
Or, you know... How they play the fucking game?

>>53586263
and hololive has already done that type of content way before the EN girls even existed. still looking for a legitimate reason to pretend to hate react content when you have bitches doing more normalfag shit like spamming minecraft/undertale/whatever is popular streams. or doing the "lol Im such a slut" stream like someone shaving their pubic hair, fapbait ASMR, etc. Watchalongs, streams where they just visit a place or LITERALLY have r*ddit accounts reacing to r*ddit memes. yeah everyone already did react content, but more importantly, they've done worse. honestly don't know where this holier than thou attitude towards reacting came from when most holos' humor are already just yelling and sex jokes

>>53586576
He's not wrong tho, you watch for the vtuber's input on whatever she's playing or watching. That's the whole point. You want her to make jokes about it or hear her opinion on it. You're not impressing anyone by being this tryhard who thinks reacting to something is worse than whore streams or reddit streams. And besides every vtuber that has a react stream has just as many if not more gameplay streams than streams where she's just watching something.

>>53586597
I think the parasitic aspects of some kinds of react videos are genuinely a problem, especially when they crowd out creators. The meme review stuff doesn't have that problem.

Beyond that, a lot of reaction content is just like a bad version of mst3k. Video games tend to ground things better, because they have to engage more meaningfully.

>>53586597
I was, and continues to be, the absolute lowest, most braindead form of video content. It was that when it all started on television with viewer-submitted video tapes, it is now with the internet-trawling livestream.
It is popular because it holds the attention of the largest demographic, because it requires the least amount of thought...which is saying something when the majority of video content already only necessitates the bare minimum of "just above vegetative" to consume.
It is THE bottom of the barrel, and when it comes to most things, in most aspects of life, people prefer higher to lower quality things, where they can be had. That this has to be explained time and time again wearies the soul, but I suppose should be hardly surprising.

>>53587358
it's fine when japanese vtubers do it. japanese television is founded on this sort of content and vtubing is just a continuation of that tradition.

>>53587392
Funny how it was nobody gave a fuck about vtubers when they started, huh?

>>53586690
We both know that react content is sitting in a chair, eating chips and watching YLYL videos until your ass is glued to the chair, let's not kid ourselves. I hate watchalong too most of the time, they're boring as hell and there's 2-3 chuubas that can pull it off

>>53584627
The thing is, Gura can't even do that.
Her fans would have been overjoyed if she'd just watched 2-3 movies in Movie May. She stopped after Star Wars on May 4 and never did another member's stream.

>>53587358
reminder that there was an extremely popular hololive stream of two women just taking a shower talking about how big each other's boobs were.

>>53584756
The streamer also needs to be adding something to the experience. The reason that people rage against react content is that there are a lot of streamers who put on a video and then sit there doing nothing. It was especially bad a few years ago.

>>53588079
now that I think about it that was literally just a shower reaction stream with Kanata commentating

>>53588079
Did you not read? Can you read? Please learn to if you cannot.

>>53588311
Are you implying there's a lower level of content than two women taking a shower while Kanata fact checks them on their boob sizes?

>>53588079
there was also a recent stream with two women talking about how much they enjoy NTR porn

>>53588399
Yes. React content

>>53587047
Video games are literally more parasitic. You're broadcasting a paid product that you didn't create for free to thousands of people, and taking money for doing so. None of that goes to the creators. Compared to broadcasting a video that is distributed on the internet already for free.

>>53588480
>vshojo-tier coomslop is worse than innocent react content

>>53588140
forsen

>>53588521
Not even Project Melody has reacted to naked women just touching each other's tits.

>>53588497
A video game can never be a complete substitute for playing it yourself. Compare that to asmongold making funny faces while a full video plays.

>>53588399
No, I'm implying you're illiterate.

>>53588641
Asmongold's face is not a substitute for watching a video on your own.

>>53588521
My man, Vshojo has literally never done a stream like that. Not even close.

>>53588641
>A video game can never be a complete substitute for playing it yourself.
yea it can. i'm never gonna play only up because i watched pekora do it. i know what it's like already.

>>53588841
That's another sentence. Deciding a less comprehensive free version is enough isn't the same thing as the more comprehensive free version. That's what react content is. And it's just as bad for their bottom lines, if not worse.

>>53588994
nah, if I see a funny video on a stream I'll look it up and watch it on my own afterwards.

>>53589082
You are in the minority there

>>53585326
Gawr will always be part of her.

>>53589136
no i'm not. you could prove yourself correct pretty easily. find a good video that asmon reacted to that has slowed in viewership after he watched it. it doesn't happnen. it's free advertising.

>react
>content
pick one

>>53589526
>video game
>content

>>53589576
Unironically yes. Video games require you to play them. Interaction, different strategies and playstyles. Actual skill needed depending on the game. Reactions is just "ooh oh wow lol". Where is the skill required?

>>53584627
You would get the same amount of streams, but most of them would be react content.

>>53589719
>video someone else made
:(
>video game someone else made
:O

Both react content and video games are good if done well. They can both be shit if done poorly. You don't have to imagine it's black and white and choose a side.

>>53589738
>didnt answer my question
case closed. have a nice day theres a party downstairs waiting for me

>>53589908
>streamer sees a funny thing and says "ooh oh wow lol"
>:(
>streamer sees a funny thing and says "ooh oh wow lol" as she presses the X button on her controller
:O

>>53588140
This. I don't mind react content so long as they're genuinely adding something and meaningfully discussing what's going on. I loathe it when it's very obviously just used as a chat retaining distraction while they fuck off to take a shit or eat or whatever.

>>53584627
The point is it's difficult for her to stream a game she does not enjoy. She knows that many games are just bad content. She understands that streaming just for the sake of streaming pushes away viewers. But then again, she can stream Peppa Pig and still get plenty of viewers. Notice how she doesn't want to stream the FOTM?
React content is another option that allows her to cook and engages the crowd. But can understand Hololive's stance on it. If it were on Twitch, they would probably still allow it. But YouTube often gives strikes even if it's allowed on another channel. Doesn't help when have a large following of antis anxious to report any infraction.
Gura is still doing what she enjoys, though it's mainly idol work. Never worry about her being successful if she ever decides to leave.

>>53590263
yea they should just end the stream rather than take a 10 minute break with a video playing. this is why your holo streams are only 1 hour long.

>>53590429
Fucking neck yourself, Hassan Horsefucker.

>>53590580
i have literally no idea what that means.

>>53588521
yes.

>>53584627
Senzawa for vshojo soon

>>53589944
Answer his question. You make decisions, have options, and choose different ways to do shit in games. Where is the choice in watching videos?

>>53586576
Yeah bro I watch the retarded japanese anime girls for the high quality of their pokemon gameplay

>>53594107
Not him, but react content can be done incredibly well. If you think about it, Plinkett from RLM just did react content, but his videos are incredibly popular and everyone loves him.
I agree that react content is retarded if it's just someone playing a video and saying nothing, but if the "reaction content" is actually a well thought out and intelligent critique, then it's very entertaining.

>>53594388
That's commentary. They used brief snippets and critiqued the movies.

>>53584756
Gurakeks are unbelievable lmao

I like video games. I like watching vtubers play video games, because it’s like I get to share my favorite interests with a cute anime girl.
I don’t give a shit about YLYL compilation #69,000 and I don’t want to see somebody else react to that either.
Watch-alongs can be interesting if the movie is good, or if the chuuba can provide interesting commentary.
If the commentary can be summarized as “omg…. No way…. He really did that, oh my God I can’t believe that….. that’s sooooo messed up, dude….. okay hot take *proceeds to say the most inoffensive shit that everyone already agrees with*”, then it’s not interesting and I am not going to watch it.

>>53594573
Okay then I'll use devon stack as an example.
The problem with react content is that lazy people make it lazy. if the content is carried out in an intelligent manner, then it's not bad.

>>53594388
>gura
>who spends her streams spouting meme after meme
>well thought out and intelligent critique
You'd have better luck getting her to stream consistently again.

>>53584627
everything chuubas do is react content. you're literally watching a stream waiting for a chuubas reaction to something that happens on stream. the chuuba might even react to something somebody says in chat that might be funny. react content in itself isn't bad but i always find it funny when mongoloids on this board think watching someone be bad at games is somehow superior to just sitting there and watching videos

>>53587047
>parasitic
you don't know what that word means. It's parasitic if the video reacted to isn't credit. But most react streamers credit the video which leads to the video maker gaining 100x more views than they would relying on youtube's algorithm. There are vtubers that blew up this way (Lucy Pyre reacted to by Asmongold) and she got 600 viewers INSTANTLY on debut. It benefits both people, not one-sided like retards think.

>>53585719
When a streamers plays a game, they can talk during gameplay and stay quiet during cutscenes.
Reacting to a video is like playing a game that's 100% cutscene. So either they just stay quiet, which makes it pointless that they're "reacting" to it in tie first place, or they talk over the video, which is annoying, or they have to keep pausing the video to talk, which is also annoying. It's absolute garbage.

>>53584627
You could've just said "I'm a short attention span retard" and we would've got the message

>>53600562
I get a lot of people find it annoying but pausing the video and talking about it is to me the least lazy way to engage in react content.

>>53600722
Anon... OP is implying that's Gura. Although would you deny she's a short attention span retard?

>>53584835
>>53585719
>>53600146
So if everything is react content why is she still being a lazy piece of shit? She at least has an excuse, albeit an very bad and extremely laughable one, over just being a lazy fuck, plain and simple.

>>53600146
Because growing while not creating anything of your own is frowned upon, which is good. When you're playing a game, you're creating what you're reacting to, at least to an extent. Obviously the game has a set amount of content, but your playthrough is unique, though perhaps in some games only pedantically so.

>>53601925
You can literally apply the logic to videos. The game and videos are made by other people. It's the reactions that chuubas add that make it their own content. It's a different story however if chuubas actually try to do something creative with the game which is 99% not the case in the two big corpos.

>>53584627
Depends on the game but both are usually pretty fucking shit.
Zatsus and karaokes reign supreme.

>>53605859
Imagine doing zatsus for an audience you severely hate lol

>>53584627
Agreed. If I'm going to pay full attention to something, anime/movies or playing a video game myself is more entertaining than gaming streams. But if I want something to listen to in the bg while I do something else, react content makes for better zatsu than gaming streams.
The only gaming streams I have any reason to watch are multiplayer game collabs.