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Nijien deflection thread

Fuck off, BVTM

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>>55084799
She is just mildly autistic. I don't think she means harm by it. She's kind of like Kiara and being German

not like they have to interact much after the first month

>>55084799
by no means im an idolfag but shiorin behaviour and crudeness bother me and it hasnt been a week

>>55085239
>mildly

>>55085055
Fake fans detected!

>>55084799
BAU BAU Go back to watching your nijikek graduations

>>55085239
I want to see the ultimate Autistic Off-Colab Stream with Shiori, Kiara and Kronii.

>>55084799
She seems to lack a lot of tact. Fuckin weird

>>55084799
she knows everyone's secrets

>>55084799
i hate shiori so much it's unreal. please fire her already

>>55084799
BAU BAU MOTHERFUCKER!

>>55085631
BAU BAU

>>55084799

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>>55084799
try try nijicuck but you got outed and shit on by /hlgg/

IF YOU DON'T BAU BAU YOU ARE GAY

>>55084799
i love her so much

>>55084799
BAU BAU

>want goth gf uchuuba
>wonder why she act like autistic goth gal
Don't you guy have friends (of the same gender) ?

>>55084799

>>55085631
I simultaneously hate her and want to fuck her

>>55085840
incel SEAnog hands typed this

>>55084799
I know this is bait but I'll bite and say that while that stuff was weird, Shiori literally carried that collab. There were so many moments when no one said anything and there was dead air and Shiori stepped up to get the conversation going again. I was honestly astonished that the 4 other people in the call couldn't think of anything to say and just sat there letting the silence fester.

>BAU BAU I MUST CONSUME PRODUCT

>>55085922
it's late and they're tired from their own streams, also shiori is just annoying to interact with

>>55085950
seethe and sneed

>>55085631
And the sister reveals herself.

this again, huh?

>>55084799
BAU BAU

>>55085989
>it's late and they're tired from their own streams
What is this kindergarten tier excuse?
>shiori is just annoying to interact with
Even if this is true, she’s still the only actively trying to hold a conversation, so they no right to complain

>>55084799
Because she wants more time to fuck her boyfriend. Yeah me.

>>55085840
Same.

>>55086086
well it's not like these faggots are watching vtubers or anything

>>55086165
>actively trying to hold a conversation,

and then being a cunt when they do talk to her, get the fuck outta here.

>>55085950
This without a hint of irony Bau Bau

>>55084799
It's pretty funny seeing the dogs full on lost most of the time and they have that dopey look to them, it's great

>>55084799
Because of the mercury poisoning she hinted at last stream where she talked about how she played with mercury as a child.

>>55084799
>post deleted
>creates a thread
kek

>>55086425
Bau bau

>>55085989
so much for kayfabe and professionalism

>>55084799
>>55084645
>gets btfo
>starts running to the catalog
kys immediately

I genuinely think she might become a problem for the company I've already seen so many red flags, she doesn't 'act' like shes hololive

>>55086588
go back to /wooo/

>>55086611
I hope she gets graduated real fucking soon

>>55084799
She isn't an asshole but she is a bit self-absorbed. Her narration voice gives off extreme chuuni acting vibes so my expectation was already set for her acting like that. In the end you need to get along with all sorts of people that will be your colleagues, and that's why her gen mates just let it happen.

>>55086664
I hope you get graduated real soon aka you get hit by a bus

>>55086687
or maybe they were uncomfortable and trying to stay professional

>>55086611
She sounds like a twitch vtuber no joke. No fucking clue what Cover was thinking when they decided to pick up this failed 2view.

>>55086664
There is a chance she will if she messes up bad enough and shes rushing a lot of things people take time to warm up to it seems

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>>55084799
looks like we know why it took so long for a new gen. there's just not much options so they just settled. only the twins seem like a winner

>>55086611
I like her but I don't have high hopes for her desu
Expecting anything bad in a few months

>>55085950
Unironically this BAU BAU

>>55086886
exactly this

>>55086777
this but shiori

>>55087063
Don't reply to your own post discord anon.

>>55087011
at least the others are all top quality!

She can't help it. I just hope the others understand it isn't done maliciously. She is very cute when she gets excited about things though.

>>55086825
Typically if it's a problem they'll go through the appropriate channels and have one of the management staff call Shiori and talk to her alone.If it works like any company, or gossip will spread and everyone will avoid her.

>>55087157
Eh, not sure if you are ironic, but I'll bite, one shit chuuba still will bring down the gen by a bit.

>>55084799
I've noticed with this board that anytime anyone points out something negative with some vtuber, you get a hoard of simps damage controlling for her. It's pathetic.
>No she's not a cunt she's just autistic!
>No she's not a cunt she's just sheltered!
>No she doesn't like NTR she just tweeted about it constantly and constantly brought it up in her streams!
>No she isn't a whore, remember when she said she didn't know if guys wore 2 pairs of underwear or not? Forget about all her other streams where she was talking about her 'toxic' relationships she's had in the past!
>No she doesn't love BBC, she just said the BBC line because she wanted to say a funny joke, I bet that phrase doesn't even mean that anyway (it does).

I hate cucks. I hate simps. I usually have sympathy but I can't wait for this bitch to rip her goslings hearts right out of them. It will be deserved and a good life lesson for them being so naive and pathetic.

>>55087139
your a dumb shit there are clearly multiple people in here with the same opinion

>>55086934
niggerchama i love fuwamoco but shiorin doesn't know how to read a room and if you can't discern that then you have aspergers

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>>55087348
Are these multiple people in the room with us anon? What are they saying?

>>55087243
I wasn't, i genuinely think they can do a lot they have the spirit. Hopefully either Shiori magically levels out and its mostly anxiety/newness or something happens quick before it tarnishes the others

>>55086886
she is NijiEN material, nor HoloEN, she feels so foreign

>>55084799
I expect she will be the black sheep her gen ignores at this rate

>>55087179
>I just hope the others understand it isn't done maliciously
Even if it isn't I can see it being hard to deal with if she keeps doing it. One can only go "it's not done maliciously" for so long if it keeps happening, so hopefully it doesn't.

>>55087405
being autistic isnt the problem though other chuubas can use it to their advantage sometimes. She just isnt Holo material

>>55087345
I just learned this lesson the hard way. I would advise other anons to actually pay attention to this and jump ship. If you're constantly making excuses for someone, it's more likely that they're just a shitty person than anything.

I can't decide whether I like her or not. in fact I can't even decide if I want to like her. I enjoy that she's very supportive of fan work, but simultaneously I feel that she might be too controlling over it. I think it's cool that she has varied interests and wants to stream about them, but at the same time I dislike her verbal prose and the structure of her presentations. She likes books but she has too many reading habits that I find annoying.
I think the archiver is a good role for her because she seems to be one of those people who collects a bunch of random knowledge about various topics to no discernable end and with little deeper analysis.

Anyway the model is sex.

>>55084799
>she
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>>55086886
because she literally was

>>55087345
it's not "no she's not a cunt, she's autistic" and more "she is a cunt, being autistic is the reason why"

>>55087672
This. She's just not Holo material. The other 4 are great though.

There is not an ounce of hololive qualities to this girl.
She was a 2 failed 2 view for years. Her streams consisteted of her streaming with her twitch friends, most of which were male, and most of the time they made crass jokes with each other, which is typical for failed vtubers. Her number 1 fetish is NTR and she talked about it constantly, memed about it constantly.

She would fit in perfectly with Vshojo because she's another Nyanners. That's essentially who she looked up to, it's how she acts, its how she thinks. She's just nyanners but much less charismatic.

>>55084799
>>oh? you guys know nothing about the west LOL
what was "the west" in this context

>>55085559
Kronii isn't autistic, she's just an asshole. Kiara isn't either, she's just european.
Shiori is the first actual legit autist in HoloEN, which is why people find her off-putting.

>>55087672
>>55087405
She has clear
>I'm going to add/relate to what you just said by interjecting with a story of my own
aspie energy that can be trained out of her, but who knows if it will become a major issue or not in future collabs.

>>55087477
>tarnishes the others
I'm worried about that, if she is gonna have girl boss moment, I hope no other girl in gen will support her.
Reality is, I don't really care if chuuba collabs with males, I won't watch her, I don't like the idea, but I don't mind her being on stream of chuuba that I watch, and generally I'm ok with them as a person.
If she does something bad on purpose to "own" someone, then I wouldn't want her to be even close to other girls.
Judging by how she collects all the goslings, I don't see a good resolution to situation. UNLESS ofcourse she does complete 180 with what she had before and continue just being cgdct and gfe without anything bad.

>>55087772
so were other holoen in the past, but they didnt turn out like this.

>>55084799
I really hope Cover forced them to talk for a few months.
HoloEN literally have no chemistry when they debut.

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>>55087814
Cartoons like southpark etc

>>55087345
>she was talking about her 'toxic' relationships she's had in the past
got the sauce on this? i wanna start digging in to her past

>>55087807
Vshojo wouldnt take her shes not even good enough for that maybe Eien.

>>55085989
I think the age gap is just a lot to handle. Bijou and the dogs are super-zoomers, and Nerissa is like an arch-hag. Shiori is just a sperg in the middle. It's a bit difficult for them to connect in huge setting like that.
But I expect things to smooth out, we just need to give them some time. I also think each of them will likely find more fitting collab partners in the other gens. (And Shiori will definitely prefer one-on-ones.)

It's over for EN3

roru
romao

ITT: rmposting rm rm rm rm

how are these faggots not banned yet?

>>55087821
Im an autistic vtuber, and she's more then autistic. Its not that.

>>55088018
Not even EIEN maybe phase connect

Do you faggots have to nitpick every single stream? Kys

>>55087905
she has to have someone call her out for it but that will never happen live, though maybe in DMs. I used to be like that until my friend literally told me "yo can u let me finish what i was trying to say"

>>55087672
lol, those chuubas are not actually autistic, they're just larping or have a very mild form of it. Shiori is the genuine article.

>>55087905
this is really it exactly. I work in a lab with a few sperg women and I don't even register it as rude anymore, but objectively I know it's offputting to most people

>>55088116
Nah phase wouldnt have a bar

>>55087821
>Shiori is the first actual legit autist in HoloEN

>>55088023
Dogs are definitely not zoomers

>>55088078
This is going to be fun.

>>55084799
You honestly sound autistic if you think Shiori would be mean to them in a live stream of 24k viewers.
It's not meant to be taken as an insult, and maybe the twins insisted to her behind curtains to treat them like theyre not from Canada to protect their identities.

>>55088209
>>55088116
>>55088018
>>55087807
How the fuck did she even get into Hololive?
Had to be Nepo hire, right? Right????

>>55088199
Nyanners is fucking aspy dude

>>55087980
and to be clear, she wasn't wrong and that wasn't one of the times her genmates clearly reacted as if she was rude (which did happen)

If she male collabs that'll be the final nail in the coffin

>>55088134
>how DARE you discuss things said in the stream and point out things that make this vtuber look bad
fuck off
if it's too much for you to handle go to some hugbox somewhere else

>Another Shiori bait thread

>>55088023
Only 4channers would say a difference of 5-7 years at most would be too alienating to talk to

>>55087917

Koseki called them "actual dogs"

>>55088275
Someone said it was Moris nepo

>>55088228
Are you kidding me? Mori is more like a normalfag who just stumbled onto 4chan and decided to go with it. She's not autistic at all.

>>55088322
>if it's too much for you to handle go to some hugbox somewhere else
This.
I discuss all aspects of streams, positive and negative.
I don't simp for any streamer.

>>55088348
its not bait its concern for advent

>>55088142
Yeah I have an autist friend like this which is why I'm already recognizing it clearly in Shiori. I have great one-on-one conversations with my autist friend since we can deep dive for hours on our weeb niche interests but when group friend settings come around I know to dial back on the weeb shit while my autist friend rambles on for too long/monopolizes the conversation.

>>55088430
Well they certainly have a lot in common!

>>55088348
Because she is a big fucking elephant in the room.

>>55084799
>Why is she such an asshole to her genmates?
Angry about being last. Fuwamoco have 60000 subscribers more and her cuck fanbase is seething hard.

>>55088275
She has 5 years of experience, believe it or not.

>>55088229
How did they not know about cassette tapes then?

>>55088356
It's more about cultural contexts and maturity. I think very young people can be mature for their age and old people can be childish. You don't think there was a divide between at least Nerissa and the others?
Also, not having gone into dox info, I would guess Nerissa to be 30+, and Bijou to be maybe 21. But maybe they're much closer. It's just my read on them from the streams.

>>55088662
oh fuck that's bad...I knew she'd been around awhile but damn

>>55088686
They do, they quickly said they did at the end. They acted like they didn't so it didn't seem weird for their kayfabe.

>>55085922
Wasn't this stream being hosted on Shiori's channel? She was supposed to be leading. Heck, even the thumbnail only had her in it, I didn't even know the other members were in this stream.

>>55088540
You guys are so easy to piss off lmao.
No different than girls after all.

>>55088464
Yeah it's pretty common. Shiori fits that 100%. My brother is like that too and I have to tell him to calm down sometimes in the middle of a sentence. (Seems rude at first, but he genuinely does not notice himself.)

>>55088800
which isnt good in a professional environment

>>55088787
Even from debut the schedule listed it as open VC. Considering it was Advent only, it went totally as expected.

>>55088099
Let's get married

>>55088760
Oh, I must have missed that. When Nerissa said it, it genuinely seemed like she was alone and the feeling was relatable.

>>55088686
Nerissa is nowhere near 30 anon. All ill say

>>55088712
She's one of the old guard. She's terminally /here/ and has been on 4chan for most of her life.

>>55088943
Shiori 100% knew as well, but she gave the others a chance. She mentioned that she could see her own chat as well so answering would defeat the purpose.

>>55088878
Often true, but it depends. Autists can be great at certain tasks as long as adjustments are made. I think Shiori will be awkward in larger collabs, but probably just fine in smaller ones, like her and one other member. And that's fine, she's just her own niche.

>>55088986
25 is not nowhere near 30

>>55088275
that faggot loserbait amelias manager not sure if he stills around

>>55089077
It isn't though

>>55089042
how is she not better then? i've only become a better chuuba by being on /here/

>>55085950
BAU...BAU

>>55085950
>seething at the superior product
BAU BAU

>>55089042
>She's terminally /here/ and has been on 4chan for most of her life.
In that case I can already see how her career ends: she gets fired after doing something monumentally retarded and insane

>>55088356
I dunno, 5-7 years between college-age kids and late 20s adults can be pretty apparent in social settings. Even in Council the slowburn Mumei/Bae friendship that's become super close feels fueled by their zoomer maturity levels more than anything. Bijou definitely has a similar zoomer feel to her while the other Advent members seem older, especially Nerissa.

>>55089197
especially if she's reading this shit constantly

>>55088986
I'll take your word for it. Let's just say that she seems like an old soul then. (And no, not just because of her voice or tall model.) Though I'm sure part of it is simply because of how articulate and proper her speech is compared to some of the others. (I can't understand what the dogs say sometimes through the kayfabe.)

>>55089064
That's true, but she does strike me as like a young millennial. (Well, younger than me anyway.)

shiori is older than nerissa.

>>55084799
This is fucking obvious, but maybe it's a you problem?
Maybe you got bullied and ridiculed and made fun of in a regular basis by your friends and family, developed childhood traumas over the years... that anything that's not a compliment you percieved as an attack or an insult?

I know that my extroverted friends wouldn't be offended if someone told them what Shiori said on stream.

I think you and a lot of people here are just... broken.
Ever think about that?

>>55088116
>EIEN
I miss my unapologetic whore of a wife

>>55084799
Whoever coordinated the designs for this gen should be fired, everyone uses almost the same palette at a glance its difficult to distinguish them from each other except for the twins.

>>55088356
I don't know anon, me and my coworker has 20 year difference, sure things get awkward sometimes, but we both have laughs at something together or talking about something just fine, and we are completely different people, I'm a weebtard that hides power level and he is just a hardworking guy with hands of gold.

>>55087345
My exact thoughts about Shiori's "goslings"

>>55089077
25 is right in the middle of your 20s.

>>55089042
Hi Shiori

>>55089042
>she's terminally /here/
she's fucked.

>>55089042
Having an actual NTR vtuber in hololive is surreal, I don't know what to think....

>>55089199
What's ironic is Nerissa's PL is mid 20s,

>oh? you guys know nothing about the west LOL
>wow you guys really rehearsed this LOL

Felt bad for Fuwamoco after Shiori said that and there was no response from the others. Was like school bullying.

>>55089245
Oh she does, along with bijou

>>55089404
which is only 5 years to 30 mate

>>55089317
>does not know the difference between friendly banter and autistically thinking out loud

>>55089436
People say gen z starts in 1997 but everyone I've met who's 25 definitely relates more to the millenial side. I see real zoomer energy in 2000s and onwards.

t. 96er

>>55089199
Thank you! I feel like I'm taking crazy pills in this thread.

>>55089296
She seems to have had a strange childhood, so I would believe that. Interesting info though, to me she seemed younger in demeanor. But that might just be the old 'tism.

>>55089476
Bijou suits holoen kayfabe though

>>55085950
NIJISEETHE

>>55089432
Shiki... My love

>>55086611
She’s got tons of red flags but it’s too late now. Whatever happens happens.

>>55089476
Looking at the shit bijou did on the side that was left undeleted it's clear she's /here/ too, maybe still a newfag but she's immersed.

The Dogs by contrast I wouldn't see them here unless they were in /jp/ and never left.

Really I'm guessing the dogs were trained to be idols their whole life and were given a diet of carefully monitored anime only to give them the right mindset.

>>55089453
>wow you guys really rehearsed this LOL
This whore is just annoying enough to ruin vtubing. How did this slut get hired?

>>55089293
By old soul your mean that she acts genuine unlike some of these others in their 30s.

>>55087345
I've noticed ya'll motha fuckers are insane drama queens that constantly write the most ridiculous head canon for every stupid fucking thing.

This board often just reads like really bad doom themed fan fiction.

Why do nijiniggers hate shiori so much?

>>55084799
Grow some skin.

>>55089541
And millenials were supposed to start in 1980 but most of the ones up to like 88 tend to act more like Xers than millenials.

>>55089453
>wow you guys really rehearsed this LOL
That was hilarious, but I did feel a bit bad for the dogs.

>>55089489
Sure, but it's still solidly in your 20s. You'd never say someone age 15 is being "close to 20" for example.
Look, I agree that 5 years is not a lot of time especially when you get older. However, for someone at 25, it seems like a lot more.

>>55089528
If it's a fucking insult, chat would point it out.

You guys are all projecting here

>>55089432
jerk off to ajisai and call it a day, please don't enable ntr in hololive

She's like a weird mix of Mumei and Kiara
>strange interests and personality, says weird shit all the time
>stacy energy, just says whatever is on her mind and is very blunt, which can come off as rude
Its a potentially dangerous combo that'll make a lot of anons anti her.

>>55085559
Kiara is like that because of germanic culture.
Kroniis is like that because she's a dip shit who irl gets away with it because she's a woman.
Shiori might legit be autistic.
If a collab DID happen it would just be another repeat of Kiara/Kronii Kiara/Nyanners. Kiara would give them ptsd while being completely unaffected by whatever rude shit they're saying because she's used to it due to her culture.

>>55089664
Bijou said she wants to "bond with her community" a lot, so it makes sense.

>>55089697
omg hi shiori

>>55089664
That's what I think about dogs too. Not knowing scooby doo, either a lie or they are veeeeery sheltered, which isn't a bad thing, but makes you think, are they the minority of chuubas that never gone here, or they still egosa.

>>55088800
I myself am diagnosed Asperger's, and she 100% lines up with my internal and external observations about the condition.

If you are sheltered, upper-middle class, very online, and above average intelligence, it's easy to develop towards narcissistic martyrdom, which is where some of the negative aspects can start taking over.

It takes direct self-awareness to keep it in check. Basically, the person becomes a hurricane internally, and even if they try to keep it in, the chaos seeps out, and anyone close will bleed.

I can forgive anyone else displaying similar patterns- intentionality is not always easy to discern. Still, if the individual is unchecked and misunderstood, it will cause psychic damage for everyone.

Most certainly other autists developing parasocial bonds would be wise to be on alert here.

>>55089718
They don't, they only hate her now because they think she's GFE alone, look at your pic, they love the idea of her breaking peoples hearts. Look at all those likes that comment got.
They'll love her when they realize she's the NTR vtuber because the only thing they know how to love is pain and misery.

>>55089697
scroll up tard shes a trashy bitch

>>55087475
They're saying what's on their minds? The same shit can be said for people shilling her.

>>55089697
shiori is terrible

all i learned from that stream is that Nerissa will probably be the glue of that gen. Neutral, mature, and not autistic.

>>55084799
Which is it OP? Seething beggar? Jealous 2view? Coping Kurosanji? bvtm discord? brown hands typed this post?
Not falling for the Holo vs Holo psyop during our golden age

>>55089718
Because they think she is gfe incel pleaser, little do they know, she is one of them.

>>55089766
All this generational labeling makes no sense its total bullshit. I grew up in a first world country with cassettes VHS and an n64. A guy I know the same age as me has a Wii as his first console has never seen EVA says stuff like 'frfr' and has only used Spotify.
I wish people would shut up about generations

>>55088199
She definitely wasn't autistic in her PL, she was in multiple groups ffs.

>>55089961
You guys have low self-esteem if you think this is the most awful shit anyone said on stream.
This is menhara bait.
Only menharas and other mentally fucked up people would create drama out of this.

>>55089676
I just mean that she acts more like how you'd expect an older, more mature person to act. It's a compliment.

>>55089766
Don't be ridiculous, 1987 is like the middle ground for millennials. People born in 1997 are more like pseudo-zoomers. (And gen X is in their 50s now.)

>>55089848
I'm not? I'm shocked but I very much dislike it, but at the moment I'm more perplexed than anything.

>>55087345
Anon, she's attracting the same mentally ill faggots that Mori and Kronii attracted. Just like them she'll probably have a defense force discord shitting up this place within the month.

>>55089476
most holos are terminally /here/ anon. that tweet from mumei in the leadup to advents debut was the most pointed dogwhistle to the catalog that she probably could've made without just saying 'hey I visit veetee all the time!'

the problem with shiori based on what anons have been saying is she isn't just /here/ she's also a lolcow on top of that.

>>55090137
calm down fag shes trash get over it

more like shitori lmfao

>>55089718
That site is filled with women.

>>55089946
Just FYI, you don't need to do reddit spacing on here. That just marks you as a newfag.

>>55090103
Yeah, Nerissa seems very level-headed and sweet. I want to watch more of her now.

>>55084799
I don’t think it’s malicious on her part, she’s just autistic. Anons are giving her credit for keeping the stream rolling along but there were also multiple times where Shiori told a joke and nobody laughed or said anything. It gave me Sana vibes.

She’s not good at telling stories or maintaining a conversation either. Something tells me collabs will not be her strong suit.

>>55090133
This.
She isn't autistic at all, I don't know why people think that. If you think her liking morbid shit is autism then you don't know what autism is at all.
Autists don't lead and take over conversations. Shiori is very familiar with group settings, she's just a cunt and everyone she previously hung out with were cunts too. That's what you're seeing, not autism.

>>55090149
>I just mean that she acts more like how you'd expect an older, more mature person to act. It's a compliment.
I understand but she act pretty normal. It's others that she's being contrasted with that play dumb and act like they don't know things as a way to appear younger than they actually are. Old soul effectively just means she doesn't pretend to be 15 years old.

>>55090133
That's because she already knows those people very well. In Hololive she has only known people for a little while by comparison. Autists need a long time to adjust. This is probably why she said what she said in her debut. (And also why it sounded so vague and awkward.)

>>55090330

>>55090194
Her fans are already obnoxious as fuck so believe me when I say that I know bro, I know. You're not wrong at all.

>>55090123
This post reads like you are being sarcastic about all the cope to deflect any criticism BAU BAU

>>55089697
You're not doing yourself any favors Shiori. Also hiring you was a mistake.

>>55090347
But autism would be more relatable so anons will stick with that fantasy.

>haha she's just an autist

No she's a cunt, nerissa is autistic.

>>55090382
but where is the uoh in that?

>>55090317
Thanks, makes sense because that was actually my first ever post here.

Someone like Mumei is autism incarnate.
Shiori is nothing like that, I don't see anything autistic about her behavior.

>>55090347
Yes but you can't really expect people to own up to how disgusting she is right?
I mean she tried to do gosling bait plus two collabs in the first 2 days yet still she is tied last of her gen. tens of thousands of people already rejected her. Long before any jabs just because she is such a disgusting person.

>>55090209
Making a lot more momey and friends then you'll ever see.

>>55084799
shes based, that's why I watch her because she hates Holo shit like I do

>>55090330
>there were also multiple times where Shiori told a joke and nobody laughed or said anything
I get where you're coming from, but most people would just laugh politely instead of letting you hang there, even if it was a poor joke.
But I do agree, Shiori will probably not thrive in larger collabs. I think she'll be much better at smaller collabs though, as long as she harmonizes with her partner.

>>55090347
Autism is a very wide spectrum. Some autists are loud, others are very quiet.

>>55090382
Sure, you could look at it that way. I was thinking is terms relative to the rest of the group.

>>55090553
cute

>>55089042
The worst thing any vtuber can be is /here/

>>55088943
The doggos are definitely closer to Marine generationally than Laplus. It's a hag heavy gen

>>55090486
lol, Nerissa is like the most normal person in HoloEN. How do you figure her autistic?

>>55090588
Not him but is that all that matters? I see this everywhere as a comeback but if money is the only thing to get from life I think ill kill myself
>you get money to do what you want
I have no interest in that

This thread is no longer interesting. Feel free to continue recycling posts until it dies but I'll be taking myself elsewhere!

>>55090583
I doubt people actually rejected because she is disgusting person. Most people don't care right? In a sense I don't think a lot of people do background check before watching someone right? It's only prevalent here, but feel free to prove me wrong.
And for the people that watch her and defend her by saying "uuuh it's a joke" and her whole obsession with NTR, if she does this shit on this persona she will catch a lot of flak and it will be another whole unicorns that were fans vs homobeggars that didn't watch her or cucks that are into that.

she gives off superwholock girl energy.

>>55090407
She literally said in debut that collabs will be rare because she'd only collab with people she's already friends with.

Being forced to collab and pretend to be friends with the other girls must be taxing on this poor retard's psyche.

Maybe she'll get better as they build rapport in the future, but I don't expect she'll be part of any unity anytime soon

>>55090567
You have a very poor understand of autism then.

>>55090697
Then they're really leaning into the dog kayfabe hard. I'm honestly impressed, never would have guessed.
But that's good. I think everyone will be much better in like 6 months time. We must remember how awkward things were for both Myth and Council at first too.

>>55090347
This is the truth but it's easier for anons to convince themselves that she's something she isn't so she becomes easier to support, and they will fervently deny any statements to the contrary.

>>55090733
Shitposting being interpreted litrrally and unironically.
Fuck, you guys really are autistic SEA menharas here.

>>55087905
>I'm going to add/relate to what you just said by interjecting with a story of my own
What do you mean with this?

It's just Bau Bau, anons. No additives, no extra insults, no essays, not posting it a million times.
If you do that you're still just turning it into a fight and missing the point of Bau Bau.

>>55084799
I don't see them collabing after 6 months

>>55084799
I think she is an inside plant by a rival company to take hololive down from the inside

>>55090864
You know what they say, it's easier to con people then convince them that they've been conned.

>>55090957
occams razor

>>55090476
Nah I don't care about anyone to ever bother defending them, never will. I just find it legitimately hilarious how there is so much head canon written around here about every stupid thing. Bunch of you idiots act like youre Holo managers with an inside track, X hates Y Y hates Z.

It'd be sad, if it wasn't so funny.

>>55090880
>litrrally

The new Hololive standard: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRNX34Qxaag

>>55090880
So true sister! So true!
When she talked about her love for NTR back before you even knew she existed, was she shitposting then too?
Tell me how much of a newfag you are that knows nothing about her anon. Tell me more.
She had NTR in S tier for her favorite fetishes lmao and she loves the idea of cucking her bf.

>>55090841
Yeah, but she said it in a vague way, so some people assumed she was preparing us for collabs with her 2view twitch buddies or something.
I think she'll be fine, she just needs time to adjust.

>>55090880
They're just newfriend normalfags. It's an understandable conclusion to make for them.

>>55090880
Isn't she actually SEA?

>>55091010
Normal people would assume this was a typo, but you point it out anyway.
Proved my point.
You have autism.

>>55091019
I hate dolphins

>>55091019
Did they actively hire the most disgusting person they could find just to force the twins to collab with her?

>>55091019
It's Bijover

>>55091155
it was the monkey's paw for the twins to get into Hololive. pray the deal is not altered

>>55084799
Bruh
Bijou called them actual dogs.
If anything it feels like they're all secretly pissed that FuwaMoco are trying too hard.

>>55091077
I didn't say everyone in SEA are autistic.

>>55090567
>Someone like Mumei is autism incarnate
Mumei isn't autistic at all, her social interactions with everyone run very smooth and she's a typical "shy when you first meet her but very excitable and quirky once she gets comfortable" girl. No one in Council has any 'tism signs, even Kronii, who's really just depressed more than anything.

>>55090280
For me, it's Shi-whore-i

>>55091240
Fuwamoco really should've been in JP

>>55091116

>>55091155

>>55091006
>head canon
So far people have just posted about things Shiori has said, which is factual, and things she's said in her PL and how she acted in her PL, which is also factual, to argue that she's not autistic nor is she a good fit for Hololive.
Just because you don't like or don't understand what's being said doesn't mean it's headcanon.

>>55091240
this
imagine wanting to be a normal western whore vtuber and have to compete against the power of the twins

>>55091251
But wait, do you think she is autistic or not then? So is she an autistic SEA or just a SEA that's a cunt? You need to explain yourself better.

>>55084799
I think she's just extremely autistic and weird. After watching her collabs so far, I think the retarded collab statement on her debut means that she just won't do collabs, period, unless management is pointing a gun at her to do it. She's quite literally not like the other girls.

>>55091011

>>55091240
Bijou is a zoomer, are you sure that was ill intended?

>>55091384
>reading comprehension
Retard. Way to project a ton of shit I never commented on. Did you even read the OP? It's direct correlation to that ya fuckin sperg. Pretending some harmless comment is being a bitch etc etc. There's countless examples of this shit around here. Some of it's bait, sure, but idiots like you are actually being serious.
>lol

>>55091490
Fucking hell I can't stand reading comments like this.
SHE HAS BEEN STREAMING FOR WELL OVER 5+ YEARS NOW.
SHE'S VERY USED TO COLLABING IN GROUPS, SHE GROUP COLLABED MORE THAN YOU WILL EVER KNOW
SHE'S NOT 'AFRAID' OR 'SHY' OF COLLABING, SHE'S FUCKING COLLAB'D WITH TONS OF MEN, MORE OFTEN THAN NOT SHE WAS THE ONLY GIRL IN A GROUP COLLAB CONSISTING OF MEN.

>>55091240
yea at one point in the convo even Nerissa had that tone in her voice women have when they're thinking "Oh really, you're gonna pretend/play dumb just like that? We'll see then."

>>55084799
My girl really has you retards panties in a bunch doesn't she.
Don't bother giving me a you.
I just wanted to call you retarded. That all this thread really deserves.

>>55091424
The power of kindergarten entertainers who can't contribute to a conversation about tv shows beyond fucking blues clues.

>>55090880
It would be a shitpost if it's one or two occasions, but she is obsessed with NTR.

>>55091559
you saying zoomers can't be mean or do mean things?

>>55091602
They're in a business of play acting but everyone has their limits. If you really want to understand how the sausage is made then you'll have to realize they all know what's up.

>>55090906
Imagine a conversation where someone's introducing a new RPG they got into recently. An aspie/autist might interject with
>I love RPGs, my favorite one is ____ because it's...
or
>I haven't played that one, but did you know the history of RPGs started with...
when a typical person would reply with something more like
>How are you liking the game?
or
>What got you into the game?
and let them tell their story/what the person wanted to share about the game in the first place. Afterwards, the second person could segue into the RPGs they've played or wait until the first person asks them an RPG-related question to "put the ball in their court".

>>55091642
I think they should just stick with collabing with jp.

At what point do things stop being considered 'red flags' and instead just become fact?

>>55091601
>literally shitting and crying
Didn't read lol.

>>55091790
maybe this >>55091011

>>55091642
>>55091424
They're grown woman that are acting like toddlers and dropping innuendos for thirsty male fans. Try not to protest too much if you can't deal with the push back.

>>55091604
It's our girl incel. I hope you like to watch otherwise sorry.

>>55091602
Nerissa also pulled a “You’re so funny, Shiori.” After Shiori tried to push the scissor thing for the 15th time and there was an awkward pause.

I actually liked it.

>>55091739
doesn't really excuse them acting like they want the dogs to drop the act and break character to talk like normal IRL people
that's really dumb

>>55091011
can't tell if actual autism or just another woman that doesn't have personality. I liked where she was going tho

>>55091834
Aren't the dogs actual zoomers though?

>>55091865
Just feels like Nerissa doesn't like it when her genmates are genuinely acting in-character and not just doing it ironically or as a joke.

>>55084799
Ikr? She's so fucking perfect.

>>55091906
That's just the fantasy. All Hololive have to be a minimum of 18 years of age to even apply, and they worked for another company before that.

>>55091642
yes

>>55091597
>Retard
>he says when he doesn't even understand what headcanon means
Commenting on what someone has said and what you think of it isn't headcanon. It's just stating an opinion. Maybe don't use words you don't even understand, you neanderthal.
The rest of your post is just you projecting.
>lmao

>>55090880

>>55091991
Zoomers are as old as 26 now, apparently.

>>55084799
Do you have friends, OP? This is very mild ribbing.

>>55091292
Council get along real smoothly. They have better chemistry than Myth and it’s not even a struggle for them to make Irys fit into their big group collabs. They are definitely the tightest gen on the EN side.

>>55091991
>>55091906
They're 20 if they weren't lying on twitter back in 2021.

>>55091358
Wtf she just stole Pekora's husband?!?!!

>>55091889
The nigger loving bbc porn watching whore is just autistic and totally not another average putrid whore who's completely out of place and dragging the rest of her genmates down the gutter where she belongs. Don't worry anon, you can save her, her five niglets and her used up cunt, just be the cuck she vocally claimed to love in the past! You can do!

>>55092012
Do I really have to explain head canon to you? How fucking retarded are you? It's pretending you know what something is, when you have no actual fucking idea.

In this case, it's acting like anyone was butthurt from two extremely mild teases. Head canon ARE opinions masquerading as fact.

>>55092013
He is her bf alright, imagine getting cucked by some girly twink lmao!

>>55092169
Peko...

How legit is this? >>/vt/thread/54642748#p54661331

I feel bad for the dogs, they'll never really be a good collab partner because they play into their act too hard

>>55088078
Is that why she sticks with YT now? Fuck Twitchtards

>>55091601
Why even bother fighting that level of cope. Those who know know. She’s just an indie twitch cunt. It’s the only way she knows how to be a vtuber.

>>55091876
Maybe the dogs should reign it in on their own instead of forcing everyone into an uncomfortable situation of playing along with their pandering. Maybe the dogs should not break character themselves to assume some other kind of meta-character that is playing the character. Since their actual characters are ancient and should know more than 10 year olds.

>>55092047
Are you going to pretend to know how female friendships work again?

>>55092245
nah I'm sure they will get more comfortable with time

>>55092245
JP collabs exist anon

>>55092237
No way to prove, but I'd argue tweets are way worse than whatever the fuck is this. And her mentioning Pending in description on her microscope stream, guy from her PL, seems like bf.

>>55092237
It's her.
She's a regular on 4chan and she pulled the same shit as Pomu and Nyanners.
She started off a /b/tard, like all true channers.

>>55092237
It seems true because why would someone act as if they're her in the past only to sabotage her now? That's some foresight or at least coincidence of having an anti pretend to be her back then. The other claim that she's trans and showed her dick is probably fake.

>>55092271
t. Shiori

>>55092388
>pending in description
context?

>>55092237
Voice matches perfectly.

>>55092175
I thought she was making fun of niggers. I didn't really get the hype around her. I went BAU BAU

>>55092498
Pending is someone she used to cuck her twitch fanbase with. He's a vtuber.
See ->>55092013

>>55092245
They're not even good at their act, but it doesn't show as much because they don't realize they broke/undermined their own character/backstory.
>t. rper

>>55092573
>>55092498
>>55092013

>>55092554
>I went BAU BAU
Based

>>55092576
Isn't all of Advent's backstory just
>we were in the cell for an undetermined amount of time
Seems pretty easy to work with. I thought it was weird that the other wouldn't at least play along with FuwaMoco being dogs, that's super basic kayfabe.

>>55089697
>really bad doom themed fan fiction.
No wonder she's /here/

>>55092573
>Research assistance
How can she be so public about this? wtf is she doing?!

>She's just an innocent sheltered girl
lmfao dyrbt?

>>55092237
Jesus, if this is really her she's a ticking time bomb just on the menhera side.

>>55092388
I can’t believe that management would sign off on that. She had to have done that on her own right?

>>55092573
Getting that holo money by proxy.

>>55091998
I would actually like to see the other 3 act retarded and cutesy for even just one full stream

>>55092573
>>55092642
what a fucking mistake

> oh look it's another mumei fauna situation back when their first week after debut situation
yawn you cocksuckers will eventually be the same cuckold like you did to mumei and fauna. Pathetic

>>55091322
They live in Canada and wants to chat in english, so nah.

>>55092792
I doubt management does even bare minimum of research that anons do here. Honestly, I was like wtf when she said her thing at the end of the debut, then I liked her, saw vocaroos, thought it's nothing burger and can't be proven, but tweet stuff and anons started talking pending this pending that, I decide to check archives what's up with that and then checked description and it just clicked in my head, fuck her desu. I will look from afar, but I'm not trusting this bitch at all.

>>55092237
yeah its her

>>55092949
Yes yes, let the hate flow through you.
Turns me on so much. Fuck.
The angrier you get, the more sexier.

>>55092668
Excuse me sir, you dropped this

>>55092237
If true, she got a good future. pink cat did the same and doing great, plus fucking over two communities, maybe even three.

>>55093073
you ok dud?

>>55093177
Pink cat denounced her past and this site though, Shiori hasn't so it's not really the same in the eyes of normalfags

>Be a whore
>Get rewarded
Many such cases!

>>55092573
she is quite literally playing out her cuck fantasies with her viewers if she's retarded enough to dogwhistle like that

Her post debut streams perform better than Nerissa and Bijou. Hell even when both of them were collabing and overlapping her today, she managed to get the same viewership as them just rambling about stuff. You roasties can seethe all you want but this supposedly bad hire is clearly doing something right lol.

>>55092573
was she trying to be slick here to make it sound like it was 'pending review' instead of being an actual person?

>>55093487
It's like being cucked without knowing!

>>55093469
No shit cum for brains, because so far she hasn't acted out her fantasies, if she keeps being how she is right now, she is a good hire, but will she keep being like this?

>>55092573
Yeah, too many redflags here. Going to stick to the comfy raven.

>>55093487
That's kinda worked on me, because I looked at it and thought "pending, pending...pending what? Is she gonna edit it later or what?". Straight up evil lol

>>55093487
What a sneaky little bitch. Holy shit.

>>55093487
I saw the "Pending" on some other anon's screenshot of that yesterday and assumed she was going to add in the twitter url of whoever helped her later. This is insane, what's the purpose of doing this?

>>55086611
Cope. She's Yagoo approved.

>>55094105
>Why?
so she can masturbate to it later, duh. Probably sitting in her general screenshoting love confessions right now. (exaggeration)

>>55094105
>This is insane, what's the purpose of doing this?
I don't think you understand how much she loves NTR and how obsessed with it she is.

>>55092573
>>55092642
>>55092013
In another thread people were critiquing her first stream because there were no slides. Even basic slides should have been a given and there were good arguments that it should have been expected with her educational goals.

So what if the bf is here too and astroturfing and defending her and getting feedback? Would be weird.

But calling it research assistance is stupid. They googled it and didn't even reference their sources. Giving credit was a pointless mistake.

>>55084799
BAU BAU! Go eat a dick faggot!

>>55084799
bvtm garbage.

>>55094224
So this is about the rape rp? Big if true and Cover Corp condones rape rp.

>>55093763
She's really vile...

>>55094663
>>55094580
Very organic NTR sister.

>>55094672
child*

>>55094224
Attach some proof and maybe they'll listen?

>>55094683
I hope I'm a schizo that overthinks everything about her, but everything so convenient...

>>55094105
she's not memeing when she says she has an extreme NTR fetish

>>55094791
Well 4chan won't care but others might.

>>55094814
About a dozen vocaroos and a couple images were attached, she's Yagoo approved.

>>55094871
probably trauma from getting cheated on or something, perfect for mindbreak when we cheat on her for another advent? who did she seem to like the least? baus?

>>55092107
bro they are like 28 at youngest

>>55090330
>She’s not good at telling stories
She's been getting better viewership than Nerissa and Bijou for her vtuber lesson and microscope stream. A large portion of those streams are just her going on tangeants and telling past stories and she have pretty good retention, even when getting raided.

I hate NTR with a passion, it's a disgusting degenerate fetish. One of the worst.
So by virtue of that I hate her. All she's going to do is hurt people for her own selfish pleasure. Vile, vile cunt. I cannot believe someone like her got into a company like Hololive. In the same gen and the Bijou and FuwaMoco no less.

>>55094948
lol are you the pathetic nigger spamming the fake vocaroos in this board? just kill yourself already

>>55094948
What are you expecting them to say? Oh, thanks for letting us know we will kick out this whore right now?
They don't care they have camwhores in holoJP and NTR is part of their culture it seems like.

>>55092208
>Do I really have to explain head canon to you?
No because I actually know what headcanon means unlike you because you are genuinely fucking retarded. Headcanon is something that did not happen but that you choose to believe happened and is real. Shiori said the things that OP posted, which means it's not headcanon because it actually happened and is real. Retard.
>How fucking retarded are you?
Projecting again.
>It's pretending you know what something is, when you have no actual fucking idea.
Again, you have no fucking idea what headcanon means and you are a bonafide neanderthal, literally lower double digit IQ and subhuman.
>Head canon ARE opinions masquerading as fact.
How fucking retarded are YOU to not understand what an opinion is? An opinion is a view or judgement formed about something. OP thinks Shiori is an asshole and rude to her genmates and he feels bad for the rest of Advent for having to put up with her. That's not headcanon, that's an opinion based on the things she's said to her genmates.
You are an actual, unironic ooga booga cave man. I'm impressed you even managed to navigate into this thread being this retarded. I applaud you for that at least.

>>55095075
Wild isn't it? Two(three) of the most seiso in the entire company and we get a complete whore like her in the same gen. This is most certainly not going to end well, you just need to wait and watch it crash and burn eventually.

>>55091240
Pretty sure Bijou was just nervous and wasn't thinking straight.

>>55095030
NTA but do you think that's directly correlated with her activities during the stream? Do you think the views would have going down so much if she was more serious about educational content or if she acted more like the others? There are good reasons to assume their specific actions have insignificant impact on the numbers during the stream.

>>55094224
tbf fauna is doing nothing that go againts Cover's internal guidelines because its an entertaintment company. But her RM? Those other anime girls that stream? Doesnt go againts Cover's internal guideline either. Whether their RM are married or have BF, they do whatever they want. If someone are to blame for giving money to them, it should be the SC-ers themselves for not understanding this business. So what makes you think Shiori does not fit into Hololive?

>>55094948
How about the Pending one, isn't cover concerned about leaks to a third-party?

>>55095196
I just don't understand what hololive is doing desu, obviously it won't have as much impact, looking at Kronii, not much has changed right? I admittedly only watched holos from afar, because of few rotten apples, so I don't know how much of a decline/incline there was during Kronii/Mori homo arc.
It will still cause some shit storm that's for sure.

>>55089697
>ya'll motha fuckers
Go back

>>55095144
Some anons are too innocent.

>>55094948
Retard.

>>55095164
Based post. That retard is in every thread defending this whore and calling everyone who doesn't like her a schizo.
It's not gonna listen though so I wouldn't bother with it anymore, it is either a completely delusional cuck fan that cannot/will not see the evidence placed plainly in front of them, or it's one of Shiori's old twitch pals aggressively shilling for her regardless of what gets said about her.
Either way, you're going to get nowhere with morons like that. They're too far gone.

>>55095371
Keep trying, samefagging retard.

>>55095436
>>55094663

>>55095144
This.
>"Oh, gee, thanks, yeah what do you know, she really is a whore huh? I'm typing up the graduation notice as we speak!"

>>55093667
So you philistines are basically just pre-seething for shit that didn't even happen yet? Holy fuck this board is a gift that keeps giving.

>>55095436
Yeah, why are so many anons genuinely retarded lately?
I'm not arguing with you. I'm just genuinely curious and wondered if anyone knows what is up.

>>55095556

lol she really mindbroke the poor guy by just existing

>>55095579
>Well she didn't NTRed me yet! Despite NTRing her previous audience, so it's fine!
Kill yourself monkey.

>>55095579
Yeah

Do you realize how insignificant you are? You can keep screaming and seething to the avoid, nothing you will do will impact her in any way.

Can you imagine? She was a nameless failed chuuba just a few months ago that nobody really cared about. Really makes you wonder why people get so worked up after debut. Nobody cared who they were until they put on the blue dorito.

>>55095680
No anon! You can't just use her past self as an example, that's not fucking allowed! The moment she became Shiori she completely transformed! She no longer loves NTR despite talking about it constantly before. Yeah so she brought up BBC as Shiori, so what? It was a joke! Lots of girls joke about loving BBC!

This is literally the same argument trannies use when they say you can't acknowledge that they ''used to be'' (they still are) a male ever. It's retarded. She's still the same person, her past doesn't disappear when she puts on a new anime girl costume.

>>55092751
Kek

>>55091011
Disgusting whore, she should kill herself

>>55095982
Don't deadname a chuuba anon!

>>55084799
I know (You) are just farming, but it's funny how the average anon is edgy and a borderline psychopath, but the instant there are a VTuber has any bantz, they're a bitch who has to graduate.

Keep seething

>>55095795
Her yab is coming anon. The red flag has been raised. There is nothing you can do to stop her.

>>55096114
Keep going

>>55095828
>Nobody cared who they were until they put on the blue dorito
Well yeah, it's hard to care about someone when you don't even know they exist. That's irrelevant though because now she is in Hololive and people know who she is/was, and that could potentially be problematic as she's already shown some red flags and with how she acts towards her genmates.

>>55085631
Watch mysta sis instead of raiding here, he gonna be gone less than a month.

>>55096081
She could have been a schizo yandere and she would have been fine. The fact that she loves NTR is very divisive however and the polar opposite to what people wanted.
They wanted someone to be obsessed with them, not obsessed with cucking them.

>>55096180
You are a powerless pathetic nobody.

>>55096277
Seethe Shiori

>>55096180
Really makes you think what kind of people are auditioning now.

>>55096114
Except competent management. Her stupid shit in the past/recent last was her with no tard wranglers in place so she kept herself stuck as a 2view. I would expect Jap (or his subordinate) would let her know full and well that she is choosing a specific road with her GFE approach and she can't be both an irreverent audience hating shitter and also an audience loving GFE at the same time and she has already picked what she is.

>>55086611
>red flag
I saw this a lot in #, did you got kick from there sis?

>>55096408
Red flag has been a valid and well used term since before you were born.
Why are you triggered by it now?

>>55095595
Have you never seen NTRs MCs?

>>55096081
I did think it was just bantz when she jokes about after black never go back or whatever, but when I saw PL tweets, I realized it's an obsession. Bantz my ass lmao

>>55095609

>>55086611
What happened to capitalism and market forces? Cover Corp don't have ownership of what it is to be a vtuber. Let them figure it out and see where it gets them for good or ill. If for some reason they implode in scandals then the industry will move on.

>>55095795
Vesper is dead

>>55095609
>>55096547
Imagine calling other on 4chan mindbroke when he himself are afraid of exposing his skin, kek.

>>55096517
It might surprise you but I don't actually watch hentai much at all let alone NTR. So no, but I guess they must relate to it or like a self-insert.

>>55096630
Sure if something really shitty happens we will move on, but not without getting hurt anyway.

>>55096359
A literal, actual, yandere that fell in love with yagoo (real)

>>55096774
Good luck and god speed to you sister.

>>55096709
My guess is NTR MCs usually clueless that doesn't see obvious signs? I remember one of my first exposure to hentai doujins was ratatat's NTR, it mindbroke me for few days, fuck NTR

>>55096743
I guess I see your point but nothing to do with that company can hurt me. I highly recommend having enough healthy distance from your entertainment so you can say the same.

>>55096883
That's what I do actually, I can't force myself to get close, because I know my feelings would get hurt and it wouldn't be healthy to obsess, but I still feel sorry for cucked anons and overall situations like that.

>>55096882
NTR is a garbage fetish. Imagine needing to take another mans feelings into account in order to feel anything. Its degeneration of the highest level.

>>55090196
>that tweet from mumei in the leadup to advents debut was the most pointed dogwhistle to the catalog that she probably could've made without just saying 'hey I visit veetee all the time!'
qrd?

>>55097058
I'd take snuff or rape anyday over NTR, I prefer loyal perverted couples type of doujins, where they can't get enough of eachother, trying on eachother toys etc, I think it's cute.

>>55096882
Yes, that is what I meant.